Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters?
yep.. Ken is entirely correct and of course, this is pretty much what my post said what we do, will be forgotten much like the collectors who paid handsomely during the 1950s for Dime Novels of the 1880s-1910s you know, those small paperback looking things with western outlaws and Horatio Alger stories you can't get 1/10th today of what some of them sold for when they were heavily collected in the 1940s-50s and of course, I'm presuming at least some of you know who Horatio Alger is (Go west young man, go west) Rich At 06:04 AM 12/1/2008, Gerri Farrell wrote: Hello, I am not sure why I decided to use this topic to start posting my thoughts on MOPO... Here's my philosophy on the hobby of collecting movie posters, toys, baseball cards, comics, etc. All the items that bring back fond memories from a time of youth. Most collectors collecting these artifacts look back to a specific time in their lives. Possibly from 7 or 8 until 15 or 16 or so. As we get older we tend to collect from that time period. This may bring us to newer items, but our passions usually center around that time. Our childhood is probably not the most important childhood on the planet. Our kids are going to collect what made their eyes wide when they were 12, not the things that made our eyes wide when we were 12. What will they collect from this digital age? Maybe digital files that you can't relate to. My parents could never relate to the comic books that I read in the 50s. How many of us are interested in cast iron toys from the turn of the last century or for that matter silent movies or the theater stars of the 1880s. Ken Just Kids Nostalgia -- Life should be easier. So should your homepage. http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002Try the NEW AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters?
Forget Horatio Alger and Dime Novels, in a few more years they'll have forgotten what paperbacks were! Bruce On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep.. Ken is entirely correct and of course, this is pretty much what my post said what we do, will be forgotten much like the collectors who paid handsomely during the 1950s for Dime Novels of the 1880s-1910s you know, those small paperback looking things with western outlaws and Horatio Alger stories you can't get 1/10th today of what some of them sold for when they were heavily collected in the 1940s-50s and of course, I'm presuming at least some of you know who Horatio Alger is (Go west young man, go west) Rich At 06:04 AM 12/1/2008, Gerri Farrell wrote: Hello, I am not sure why I decided to use this topic to start posting my thoughts on MOPO... Here's my philosophy on the hobby of collecting movie posters, toys, baseball cards, comics, etc. All the items that bring back fond memories from a time of youth. Most collectors collecting these artifacts look back to a specific time in their lives. Possibly from 7 or 8 until 15 or 16 or so. As we get older we tend to collect from that time period. This may bring us to newer items, but our passions usually center around that time. Our childhood is probably not the most important childhood on the planet. Our kids are going to collect what made their eyes wide when they were 12, not the things that made our eyes wide when we were 12. What will they collect from this digital age? Maybe digital files that you can't relate to. My parents could never relate to the comic books that I read in the 50s. How many of us are interested in cast iron toys from the turn of the last century or for that matter silent movies or the theater stars of the 1880s. Ken Just Kids Nostalgia -- Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.comhttp://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002 . Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters?
Hey, Rich, it was Horace Greeley who said Go West. Horatio Alger was the original fictional self-made man. As for paperbacks, I collected them for years, still have a thousand or so, with great vintage cover art. But, yeah, they're already just about forgotten. Dave www.posteropolis.com - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? Forget Horatio Alger and Dime Novels, in a few more years they'll have forgotten what paperbacks were! Bruce On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep.. Ken is entirely correct and of course, this is pretty much what my post said what we do, will be forgotten much like the collectors who paid handsomely during the 1950s for Dime Novels of the 1880s-1910s you know, those small paperback looking things with western outlaws and Horatio Alger stories you can't get 1/10th today of what some of them sold for when they were heavily collected in the 1940s-50s and of course, I'm presuming at least some of you know who Horatio Alger is (Go west young man, go west) Rich At 06:04 AM 12/1/2008, Gerri Farrell wrote: Hello, I am not sure why I decided to use this topic to start posting my thoughts on MOPO... Here's my philosophy on the hobby of collecting movie posters, toys, baseball cards, comics, etc. All the items that bring back fond memories from a time of youth. Most collectors collecting these artifacts look back to a specific time in their lives. Possibly from 7 or 8 until 15 or 16 or so. As we get older we tend to collect from that time period. This may bring us to newer items, but our passions usually center around that time. Our childhood is probably not the most important childhood on the planet. Our kids are going to collect what made their eyes wide when they were 12, not the things that made our eyes wide when we were 12. What will they collect from this digital age? Maybe digital files that you can't relate to. My parents could never relate to the comic books that I read in the 50s. How many of us are interested in cast iron toys from the turn of the last century or for that matter silent movies or the theater stars of the 1880s. Ken Just Kids Nostalgia -- Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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If they stop producing posters, I think collecting will definitely be affected. I think one of the reasons that there are few new collectors coming into this hobby, is that Lobby Cards have stopped being produced(with some exceptions) and displayed in theaters, since 1985. Young people simply don't know of the existance of Lobby Cards. With digital posters, the same fate may await OS posters. Zeev - Original Message - From: Gerri Farrell To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I don't think that this gizmo will replace movie poster collecting. It will replace actual movie posters. Once these frames are in every theater lobby will there still be a need to print and distribute those expensive movie posters? It's not far away. Ken Just Kids http://www.brookstone.com/shop/product.asp?product_code=608927cm_ven=Comparecm_cat=ChannelAdvisorcm_pla=msncm_ite=datafeed -- Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Zeev - Around Los Angeles there have been these huge screen billboards where the picture changes every few seconds. The public HATES them. And I believe there is a moratorium on them. That would signify the end of larger size posters for sure. However, I can definitely see their use in movie theatres for one sheets. It may be just a matter of time before someone says no more paper use this instead. My question to you, were lobby cards really a jumping off point for collectors? I was young enough to collect lobby cards but all I ever wanted were the one sheets I saw. Lobby cards never entered into my collecting vision until much, much later. When I saw interesting title cards from the 1930's. Glenn T. - Original Message - From: lobby card invasion To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? If they stop producing posters, I think collecting will definitely be affected. I think one of the reasons that there are few new collectors coming into this hobby, is that Lobby Cards have stopped being produced(with some exceptions) and displayed in theaters, since 1985. Young people simply don't know of the existance of Lobby Cards. With digital posters, the same fate may await OS posters. Zeev - Original Message - From: Gerri Farrell To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I don't think that this gizmo will replace movie poster collecting. It will replace actual movie posters. Once these frames are in every theater lobby will there still be a need to print and distribute those expensive movie posters? It's not far away. Ken Just Kids http://www.brookstone.com/shop/product.asp?product_code=608927cm_ven=Comparecm_cat=ChannelAdvisorcm_pla=msncm_ite=datafeed Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Glenn, I wouldn't be surprised if digital posters replace the paper ones, but if they do, where would new collectors get the idea to collect moovie paper? As for LCs vs OS, its highly personal a choice, and I don't want to get into this discussion. Suffice it to say that in movie memorabilia shows, LCs outnumber larger posters, if for no other reason than ease of transport and display. But back to my original point, I think that the elimination of lobby cards from the advertizing repertoire, have hurt the hobby in two ways: First, you can't expect new collectors to enter the hobby, and collect something thay don't know exists. And second, young people who like the young stars, simply can't get them on lobby cards. Try and collect John Torturro, Coen Brothers, or Tarantino on LCs... Collecting posters requires the space that most young people do not have! Zeev - Original Message - From: Glenn Taranto To: lobby card invasion ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? Zeev - Around Los Angeles there have been these huge screen billboards where the picture changes every few seconds. The public HATES them. And I believe there is a moratorium on them. That would signify the end of larger size posters for sure. However, I can definitely see their use in movie theatres for one sheets. It may be just a matter of time before someone says no more paper use this instead. My question to you, were lobby cards really a jumping off point for collectors? I was young enough to collect lobby cards but all I ever wanted were the one sheets I saw. Lobby cards never entered into my collecting vision until much, much later. When I saw interesting title cards from the 1930's. Glenn T. - Original Message - From: lobby card invasion To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? If they stop producing posters, I think collecting will definitely be affected. I think one of the reasons that there are few new collectors coming into this hobby, is that Lobby Cards have stopped being produced(with some exceptions) and displayed in theaters, since 1985. Young people simply don't know of the existance of Lobby Cards. With digital posters, the same fate may await OS posters. Zeev - Original Message - From: Gerri Farrell To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I don't think that this gizmo will replace movie poster collecting. It will replace actual movie posters. Once these frames are in every theater lobby will there still be a need to print and distribute those expensive movie posters? It's not far away. Ken Just Kids http://www.brookstone.com/shop/product.asp?product_code=608927cm_ven=Comparecm_cat=ChannelAdvisorcm_pla=msncm_ite=datafeed -- Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Zeev, Both points taken, it might or might not hurt the hobby. As for me, I was after 1 Sheets like Glenn. LC's were a find after I was collecting 1Sheets so I don't think it's a black and white issue. The advent of digital displays may dilute the new collectors but the scarcity may make posters and LC's more valuable. Who knows for sure what's on the horizon? I'll still collect and I've turned on others who see my posters and LC's so maybe it will be through word of mouth and if the prices eventually go up due to supply and demand, perhaps collecting will benefit as other artwork has. Hope all had a great T-Giving! Patrick On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:52 AM, lobby card invasion wrote: Glenn, I wouldn't be surprised if digital posters replace the paper ones, but if they do, where would new collectors get the idea to collect moovie paper? As for LCs vs OS, its highly personal a choice, and I don't want to get into this discussion. Suffice it to say that in movie memorabilia shows, LCs outnumber larger posters, if for no other reason than ease of transport and display. But back to my original point, I think that the elimination of lobby cards from the advertizing repertoire, have hurt the hobby in two ways: First, you can't expect new collectors to enter the hobby, and collect something thay don't know exists. And second, young people who like the young stars, simply can't get them on lobby cards. Try and collect John Torturro, Coen Brothers, or Tarantino on LCs... Collecting posters requires the space that most young people do not have! Zeev - Original Message - From: Glenn Taranto To: lobby card invasion ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? Zeev - Around Los Angeles there have been these huge screen billboards where the picture changes every few seconds. The public HATES them. And I believe there is a moratorium on them. That would signify the end of larger size posters for sure. However, I can definitely see their use in movie theatres for one sheets. It may be just a matter of time before someone says no more paper use this instead. My question to you, were lobby cards really a jumping off point for collectors? I was young enough to collect lobby cards but all I ever wanted were the one sheets I saw. Lobby cards never entered into my collecting vision until much, much later. When I saw interesting title cards from the 1930's. Glenn T. - Original Message - From: lobby card invasion To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? If they stop producing posters, I think collecting will definitely be affected. I think one of the reasons that there are few new collectors coming into this hobby, is that Lobby Cards have stopped being produced (with some exceptions) and displayed in theaters, since 1985. Young people simply don't know of the existance of Lobby Cards. With digital posters, the same fate may await OS posters. Zeev - Original Message - From: Gerri Farrell To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I don't think that this gizmo will replace movie poster collecting. It will replace actual movie posters. Once these frames are in every theater lobby will there still be a need to print and distribute those expensive movie posters? It's not far away. Ken Just Kids http://www.brookstone.com/shop/product.asp? product_code=608927cm_ven=Comparecm_cat=ChannelAdvisorcm_pla=msncm _ite=datafeed Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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No but those Italians sure like to put their stamps on posters! What's that about? Patrick On Nov 30, 2008, at 1:27 PM, lobby card invasion wrote: if there's nothing to collect past say, 2010, in the way of one sheets, what direction does the hobby go? DOWN!! Just like stamps. See any interesing stamp from a far-away country lately? Ha ha Zeev - Original Message - From: Glenn Taranto To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I think some of this goes back to the discussion on silent half sheets going on last week. Certain stars and titles will always be collectible. Things that are hot will find it's cooling temperature amid a small but devoted fallowing. The average 80 - 90 year old movie posters in mint condition is still affordable. Same for lobby cards. For example, how many people on this list still get excited over Wallace Reid or Viola Dana material? It would be interesting to hear from dealers what silent star is still highly sought after. I'm not talking about Chaney or Chaplin but people who were huge stars in the teens and twenties and are not icons today. Either way, if there's nothing to collect past say, 2010, in the way of one sheets, what direction does the hobby go? Glenn T. - Original Message - From: Patrick Michael Tupy To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? Zeev, Both points taken, it might or might not hurt the hobby. As for me, I was after 1 Sheets like Glenn. LC's were a find after I was collecting 1Sheets so I don't think it's a black and white issue. The advent of digital displays may dilute the new collectors but the scarcity may make posters and LC's more valuable. Who knows for sure what's on the horizon? I'll still collect and I've turned on others who see my posters and LC's so maybe it will be through word of mouth and if the prices eventually go up due to supply and demand, perhaps collecting will benefit as other artwork has. Hope all had a great T-Giving! Patrick On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:52 AM, lobby card invasion wrote: Glenn, I wouldn't be surprised if digital posters replace the paper ones, but if they do, where would new collectors get the idea to collect moovie paper? As for LCs vs OS, its highly personal a choice, and I don't want to get into this discussion. Suffice it to say that in movie memorabilia shows, LCs outnumber larger posters, if for no other reason than ease of transport and display. But back to my original point, I think that the elimination of lobby cards from the advertizing repertoire, have hurt the hobby in two ways: First, you can't expect new collectors to enter the hobby, and collect something thay don't know exists. And second, young people who like the young stars, simply can't get them on lobby cards. Try and collect John Torturro, Coen Brothers, or Tarantino on LCs... Collecting posters requires the space that most young people do not have! Zeev - Original Message - From: Glenn Taranto To: lobby card invasion ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? Zeev - Around Los Angeles there have been these huge screen billboards where the picture changes every few seconds. The public HATES them. And I believe there is a moratorium on them. That would signify the end of larger size posters for sure. However, I can definitely see their use in movie theatres for one sheets. It may be just a matter of time before someone says no more paper use this instead. My question to you, were lobby cards really a jumping off point for collectors? I was young enough to collect lobby cards but all I ever wanted were the one sheets I saw. Lobby cards never entered into my collecting vision until much, much later. When I saw interesting title cards from the 1930's. Glenn T. - Original Message - From: lobby card invasion To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? If they stop producing posters, I think collecting will definitely be affected. I think one of the reasons that there are few new collectors coming into this hobby, is that Lobby Cards have stopped being produced(with some exceptions) and displayed in theaters, since 1985. Young people simply don't know of the existance of Lobby Cards. With digital posters, the same fate may await OS posters. Zeev - Original Message - From: Gerri Farrell To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I don't think
Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters?
I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically oriented collectors only. The same will be for posters. Younger people will stop buying posters. THat generation will have digital displays so they can change whatever they want to show Posters for the obvious titles will always sell. A poster after all is the same as an art print. so Frankenstein, Casablanca, Snow White will always sell. Getting Gerties Garter however, or My Side of the Mountain.. well they are hardly requested anyway. So the hobby will compress as our generations die off, much like that nearly forgotten hobby - pulp magazines Rich Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies. But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like westerns are better used to keep your fireplace going at least in BLBs there are very many with characters from comics. But yes. all o fthese hobbies are on the way out. For younger collectors, the most popular things will be video games in the original boxes, and box art because like us, who collected comics posters etc because we had lots of fun with them as youngsters, their generation is all about video. At 02:09 PM 11/30/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Boy, you really are a ray of sunshine today! In your complete dissing of all paper hobbies, and their inevitable doom (insert maniacal laughter) you left out the deadest of all collectibles, the Big Little Books. Find me a collector of those who is under 75 or so. Bruce P.S. I didn't much care for My Side of the Mountain, but I loved The Other Side of the Mountain and posters on both of these can be had for a buck or two each, which is what makes this a fun hobby. You can buy 30-40 year old posters from movies you liked for little money, and what's wrong with that? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course.
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My 5 kids (age 4-15) read EC comics because their dad and grandpa reprinted all of them, but otherwise they never read a single comic book. But all but the 4 year old are champions on every kind of video game, and they have every kind of system, and so does just about every other kid in this little town, and all over the world. I had to laugh when I heard there was a large type edition of the Comic Book Price Guide. When you and I were teens we were ridiculed by all adults for wasting out time reading comic books, and now it is mostly aging baby boomers who care about comics, and the kids could care less! Bruce On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies. But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like westerns are better used to keep your fireplace going at least in BLBs there are very many with characters from comics. But yes. all o fthese hobbies are on the way out. For younger collectors, the most popular things will be video games in the original boxes, and box art because like us, who collected comics posters etc because we had lots of fun with them as youngsters, their generation is all about video. At 02:09 PM 11/30/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Boy, you really are a ray of sunshine today! In your complete dissing of all paper hobbies, and their inevitable doom (insert maniacal laughter) you left out the deadest of all collectibles, the Big Little Books. Find me a collector of those who is under 75 or so. Bruce P.S. I didn't much care for My Side of the Mountain, but I loved The Other Side of the Mountain and posters on both of these can be had for a buck or two each, which is what makes this a fun hobby. You can buy 30-40 year old posters from movies you liked for little money, and what's wrong with that? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @
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I must be confused, because I really only started collecting pulps about 4 months ago. I did have a few pulps that I bought many years ago, but I did not really pay much attention to pulps until recently. In August, a friend gave me a ticket to the local Science Fiction Museum, where they have many sci-fi pulps on display. Unfortunately, this caused me to start buying them, and I'm concerned that this could grow into a serious sickness. I should probably sue my friend for exposing me to these magazines, but I don't have a good lawyer. I tend to buy any title as long as the cover appeals to me, the condition is good, and it's not too expensive. I like many of the Fantastic Adventures covers. My favorite covers are the politically incorrect weird menace pulps, but I don't have any of them, since they usually go for at least $150 in nice condition. -rk On Nov 30, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies. But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like westerns are better used to keep your fireplace going at least in BLBs there are very many with characters from comics. But yes. all o fthese hobbies are on the way out. For younger collectors, the most popular things will be video games in the original boxes, and box art because like us, who collected comics posters etc because we had lots of fun with them as youngsters, their generation is all about video. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I don't understand. Soon, paper will be rarely used. At least, used much less often. Would that not make antique paper items all the more rare? Stamps, posters, autographs... shouldn't we restore, protect, and give high regard to these items? In my experience, if it's about to become extinct, hang onto it. (Sort of like houses with land v. houses on zero lot lines or solid wood furniture v. whatever that stuff is they use today.) I should think they would gain value now, except that the recession is in the way. However, it's my prediction that as the use of paper is slowly outmoded, our ephemera will increase in value. Especially when the recession is over. It's not like a '56 T-Bird will increase, because of the pain involved in getting it fueled (in the future). Paper just hangs on the wall and will increase in value; no muss, no fuss. That's my take on it and that's why I haven't stopped spending in this area. Andrea Waste Not, Want Not - RECYCLE On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: My 5 kids (age 4-15) read EC comics because their dad and grandpa reprinted all of them, but otherwise they never read a single comic book. But all but the 4 year old are champions on every kind of video game, and they have every kind of system, and so does just about every other kid in this little town, and all over the world. I had to laugh when I heard there was a large type edition of the Comic Book Price Guide. When you and I were teens we were ridiculed by all adults for wasting out time reading comic books, and now it is mostly aging baby boomers who care about comics, and the kids could care less! Bruce On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies. But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like westerns are better used to keep your fireplace going at least in BLBs there are very many with characters from comics. But yes. all o fthese hobbies are on the way out. For younger collectors, the most popular things will be video games in the original boxes, and box art because like us, who collected comics posters etc because we had lots of fun with them as youngsters, their generation is all about video. At 02:09 PM 11/30/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Boy, you really are a ray of sunshine today! In your complete dissing of all paper hobbies, and their inevitable doom (insert maniacal laughter) you left out the deadest of all collectibles, the Big Little Books. Find me a collector of those who is under 75 or so. Bruce P.S. I didn't much care for My Side of the Mountain, but I loved The Other Side of the Mountain and posters on both of these can be had for a buck or two each, which is what makes this a fun hobby. You can buy 30-40 year old posters from movies you liked for little money, and what's wrong with that? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people
Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters?
Hello All, I have been reading with interest the discussion about movie posters in the digital age... I hate to agree that the era of paper posters is almost at an end. Digital Posters are all ready available online for downloading. It is just a matter of time before the theatres have the displays to show them in the lobby.. Here is an example of what a digital Poster will look like... From a Terminator - Salvation coming out next May 2009. http://www.wonderfulworldofmovies.com/Terminator_Trailer/ Enjoy... Sincerely, John Dingle WonderfulWorldOfMovies.com -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:50 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically oriented collectors only. The same will be for posters. Younger people will stop buying posters. THat generation will have digital displays so they can change whatever they want to show Posters for the obvious titles will always sell. A poster after all is the same as an art print. so Frankenstein, Casablanca, Snow White will always sell. Getting Gerties Garter however, or My Side of the Mountain.. well they are hardly requested anyway. So the hobby will compress as our generations die off, much like that nearly forgotten hobby - pulp magazines Rich Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your
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John I can't think of a better example kudos Rich== At 03:53 PM 11/30/2008, Linda Noradki wrote: Hello All, I have been reading with interest the discussion about movie posters in the digital age... I hate to agree that the era of paper posters is almost at an end. Digital Posters are all ready available online for downloading. It is just a matter of time before the theatres have the displays to show them in the lobby.. Here is an example of what a digital Poster will look like... From a Terminator - Salvation coming out next May 2009. http://www.wonderfulworldofmovies.com/Terminator_Trailer/ Enjoy... Sincerely, John Dingle WonderfulWorldOfMovies.com -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:50 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically oriented collectors only. The same will be for posters. Younger people will stop buying posters. THat generation will have digital displays so they can change whatever they want to show Posters for the obvious titles will always sell. A poster after all is the same as an art print. so Frankenstein, Casablanca, Snow White will always sell. Getting Gerties Garter however, or My Side of the Mountain.. well they are hardly requested anyway. So the hobby will compress as our generations die off, much like that nearly forgotten hobby - pulp magazines Rich Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from
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I agree that the continuing production of contemporary film posters is VITAL to luring newbies into the hobby and thus sustain the industry. These new posters are the marijuana of the movie poster world, which lead - as sure as night follows daybills - onto the stronger, vintage stuff. In fact, let me share with you a brief movie poster glossary that was provided to me by the late Roddy MacDowall on his deathbed : A Marijuana - freshly produced, only costing a few dollars and widely available [though not universally approved of]. Often pre-rolled for your convenience. Gives a mild, initial high, before bigger thrils are required. An LSD - pricier, vintage, going back to the 60s. These come in a variety of psychedelic colours, but more and more frequently in minty-white [ironically, many of these turn out to be so new they're acid-free]. Has been known to result in bad trips to ebay's safeharbour and in some cases turn buyers psychotic. A Cocaine - A Flying Down To Rio poster or any other RKO piece with a nosebleed price. A Heroin - Universal Horror. A monster addiction that comes at a huge personal cost. Not to be confused with the term Chasing The Dragon which refers only to the collecting of Warner Oland posters. I would suggest the adoption of Roddy's helpful system for clarity when trading posters on MOPO. On second thoughts, in this era of hi-tech tapping, FS: Cocaine, fine condition, uncut, buyer collects may create generate the wrong kind of interest from INTERPOL. This email does not condone drug use, nor the kraft-backing of posters. yours, 3-sh to the wind, Neil --- On Sun, 30/11/08, lobby card invasion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: lobby card invasion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Sunday, 30 November, 2008, 9:27 PM if there's nothing to collect past say, 2010, in the way of one sheets, what direction does the hobby go? DOWN!! Just like stamps. See any interesing stamp from a far-away country lately? Ha ha Zeev - Original Message - From: Glenn Taranto To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I think some of this goes back to the discussion on silent half sheets going on last week. Certain stars and titles will always be collectible. Things that are hot will find it's cooling temperature amid a small but devoted fallowing. The average 80 - 90 year old movie posters in mint condition is still affordable. Same for lobby cards. For example, how many people on this list still get excited over Wallace Reid or Viola Dana material? It would be interesting to hear from dealers what silent star is still highly sought after. I'm not talking about Chaney or Chaplin but people who were huge stars in the teens and twenties and are not icons today. Either way, if there's nothing to collect past say, 2010, in the way of one sheets, what direction does the hobby go? Glenn T. - Original Message - From: Patrick Michael Tupy To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? Zeev, Both points taken, it might or might not hurt the hobby. As for me, I was after 1 Sheets like Glenn. LC's were a find after I was collecting 1Sheets so I don't think it's a black and white issue. The advent of digital displays may dilute the new collectors but the scarcity may make posters and LC's more valuable. Who knows for sure what's on the horizon? I'll still collect and I've turned on others who see my posters and LC's so maybe it will be through word of mouth and if the prices eventually go up due to supply and demand, perhaps collecting will benefit as other artwork has. Hope all had a great T-Giving! Patrick On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:52 AM, lobby card invasion wrote: Glenn, I wouldn't be surprised if digital posters replace the paper ones, but if they do, where would new collectors get the idea to collect moovie paper? As for LCs vs OS, its highly personal a choice, and I don't want to get into this discussion. Suffice it to say that in movie memorabilia shows, LCs outnumber larger posters, if for no other reason than ease of transport and display. But back to my original point, I think that the elimination of lobby cards from the advertizing repertoire, have hurt the hobby in two ways: First, you can't expect new collectors to enter the hobby, and collect something thay don't know exists. And second, young people
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Well that is MIGHTY COOL, indeed!! Saul On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: John I can't think of a better example kudos Rich== At 03:53 PM 11/30/2008, Linda Noradki wrote: Hello All, I have been reading with interest the discussion about movie posters in the digital age... I hate to agree that the era of paper posters is almost at an end. Digital Posters are all ready available online for downloading. It is just a matter of time before the theatres have the displays to show them in the lobby.. Here is an example of what a digital Poster will look like... From a Terminator - Salvation coming out next May 2009. http://www.wonderfulworldofmovies.com/Terminator_Trailer/ Enjoy... Sincerely, John Dingle WonderfulWorldOfMovies.com -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:50 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically oriented collectors only. The same will be for posters. Younger people will stop buying posters. THat generation will have digital displays so they can change whatever they want to show Posters for the obvious titles will always sell. A poster after all is the same as an art print. so Frankenstein, Casablanca, Snow White will always sell. Getting Gerties Garter however, or My Side of the Mountain.. well they are hardly requested anyway. So the hobby will compress as our generations die off, much like that nearly forgotten hobby - pulp magazines Rich Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site
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part of the problem, I believe is while everyone (most) like watching movies, most people dont LOVE movies. your average person wants to watch the latest whatever it is, and few years later they dont care. Why do people pay 3 x or more to rent a NEW RELEASE over the many thousands of other films on the shelf? Ari --- On Mon, 1/12/08, Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 3:02 PM From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Kanter Maybe one of you could get an article done on you and your collection in one of those airplane magazines Bruce beat you to this by a decade or so. I remember reading one of the Delta in-flight magazines long ago that had an article on him. Strange as it seems (since nearly everyone has a favorite movie), posters have just never taken off among the regular crowd like you think they would and the demise of actual paper posters in the theaters will not help matters. Which is kind of fine, as the rarest posters are much rarer than the rarest items from other major hobbies (A Honus Wagner baseball card in low grade sold last week for over $800,000 - yet there are at least 50 or 60 of them known, compare that with the most expensive posters) and if there was a sudden influx of well-heeled collectors, pretty much everyone would be priced out. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=otherp2=aup3=tagline Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I agree with everything you guys've said so far, but think there will be some areas where there will be holdouts in poster collecting. First of all, I think horror as a genre will continue to be very heavily collected for some time to come, though as time goes by the field will be narrowed to a relatively small number of specific titles. As one of you already said, many of these, like the Universal stuff, will be collected almost as art prints along with key mainstream titles. And, just as there is a market for outsider art I think there will continue to be some interest in outrageous and outre stuff. This is a niche market but one with some staying power. I deal with quite a few younger artists/musicians/designers who are just discovering this area and have yet to hit their prime as collectors. Dave www.posteropolis.com - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? My 5 kids (age 4-15) read EC comics because their dad and grandpa reprinted all of them, but otherwise they never read a single comic book. But all but the 4 year old are champions on every kind of video game, and they have every kind of system, and so does just about every other kid in this little town, and all over the world. I had to laugh when I heard there was a large type edition of the Comic Book Price Guide. When you and I were teens we were ridiculed by all adults for wasting out time reading comic books, and now it is mostly aging baby boomers who care about comics, and the kids could care less! Bruce On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies. But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like westerns are better used to keep your fireplace going at least in BLBs there are very many with characters from comics. But yes. all o fthese hobbies are on the way out. For younger collectors, the most popular things will be video games in the original boxes, and box art because like us, who collected comics posters etc because we had lots of fun with them as youngsters, their generation is all about video. At 02:09 PM 11/30/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Boy, you really are a ray of sunshine today! In your complete dissing of all paper hobbies, and their inevitable doom (insert maniacal laughter) you left out the deadest of all collectibles, the Big Little Books. Find me a collector of those who is under 75 or so. Bruce P.S. I didn't much care for My Side of the Mountain, but I loved The Other Side of the Mountain and posters on both of these can be had for a buck or two each, which is what makes this a fun hobby. You can buy 30-40 year old posters from movies you liked for little money, and what's wrong with that? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital
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Of course I am too close to this to possibly be in the slightest objective, but I think the movie poster hobby transcends baseball cards and comic books, and even coins and stamps, in a special way. If you didn't grow up with baseball cards or comic books, or if you didn't catch the coin or stamp bug somewhere early on, then you are likely mystified that some people pay a thousand times as much for one coin over another, when they both look quite a bit alike, except one has a different date, or a mint stamp, or is in better condition, but both look nearly perfect. The same is true to a large extent for stamps, comics, or cards, for one is awfully like all the rest, with the differences pretty minor, but all-important to those deep in the hobby. But to me, hardly any two posters are alike, and the poster hobby has items to appeal to just about every person on the planet! There have been a couple of hundred thousand movies, and a dozen or more posters and a set of 8 cards were made on most of them, so there are a couple of million or more distinct movie posters and cards (and that's just in the U.S., add in non-U.S. and that is likely a couple of million more!), and you can pick ANY subject whatsoever and build a collection on that topic. Like posters or cards that show gambling? There are probably thousands of them (ask Rich about those). Like posters or cards that show famous Jewish people or movies with Jewish themes? Ask Zeev about how many of those there are. Like posters or cards that show Godzilla movies? Ask Sean about how many of those there are. And on and on. What I think is so wonderful about movie posters or lobby cards is that whatever your interests, whatever your age, and whatever size or year or genre or country you choose, you can build a collection that will take years and years to build and you likely still won't be nearly complete, and you can limit your spending quite a bit and not be relegated to pretty boring items, as you would be in so many other hobbies, for many really fun movie posters or cards are still very affordable. The hobby may never grow huge, and it may never attract those rich investor types who have become such a major force in so many hobbies, but I think it will continue strong for many many years to come, for the reasons I outlined above! Bruce On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Dave Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with everything you guys've said so far, but think there will be some areas where there will be holdouts in poster collecting. First of all, I think horror as a genre will continue to be very heavily collected for some time to come, though as time goes by the field will be narrowed to a relatively small number of specific titles. As one of you already said, many of these, like the Universal stuff, will be collected almost as art prints along with key mainstream titles. And, just as there is a market for outsider art I think there will continue to be some interest in outrageous and outre stuff. This is a niche market but one with some staying power. I deal with quite a few younger artists/musicians/designers who are just discovering this area and have yet to hit their prime as collectors. Dave www.posteropolis.com - Original Message - *From:* Bruce Hershenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? My 5 kids (age 4-15) read EC comics because their dad and grandpa reprinted all of them, but otherwise they never read a single comic book. But all but the 4 year old are champions on every kind of video game, and they have every kind of system, and so does just about every other kid in this little town, and all over the world. I had to laugh when I heard there was a large type edition of the Comic Book Price Guide. When you and I were teens we were ridiculed by all adults for wasting out time reading comic books, and now it is mostly aging baby boomers who care about comics, and the kids could care less! Bruce On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies. But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like westerns
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Netflix etc never took off here, generaly new releases (here/Australia) are $7 per night, weeklies you prob get 7 for $10 a week. Ari --- On Mon, 1/12/08, Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 3:22 PM Do people pay more to rent new releases there? Here everyone is on a plan for a flat rate like netflix, of the few stores around here I know of charge the same whatever the movie -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ari Richards Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:11 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? part of the problem, I believe is while everyone (most) like watching movies, most people dont LOVE movies. your average person wants to watch the latest whatever it is, and few years later they dont care. Why do people pay 3 x or more to rent a NEW RELEASE over the many thousands of other films on the shelf? Ari --- On Mon, 1/12/08, Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 3:02 PM From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Kanter Maybe one of you could get an article done on you and your collection in one of those airplane magazines Bruce beat you to this by a decade or so. I remember reading one of the Delta in-flight magazines long ago that had an article on him. Strange as it seems (since nearly everyone has a favorite movie), posters have just never taken off among the regular crowd like you think they would and the demise of actual paper posters in the theaters will not help matters. Which is kind of fine, as the rarest posters are much rarer than the rarest items from other major hobbies (A Honus Wagner baseball card in low grade sold last week for over $800,000 - yet there are at least 50 or 60 of them known, compare that with the most expensive posters) and if there was a sudden influx of well-heeled collectors, pretty much everyone would be priced out. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=otherp2=aup3=tagline Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=otherp2=aup3=tagline Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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One interesting - but likely temporary - roadblock to all this digitalism will be fear of hackers. Some time ago I interviewed someone at the forefront of digital projection systems, and her big concern (and that of the corporation she worked for) was that whatever $$$ the studios saved in making and distributing physical prints to theatres they would pay out in anti-hacking software, firewalls etc. Think how disastrous (also potentially hilarious) it would be if the tagline on movie posters in every theatre in the world could be altered with a keystroke... one such incident, if it indeed had a deep impact on the film's resulting box office, might make studios long for the good old days of paper posters. One last point, I think there will be paper posters printed for wild postings and convention giveaways etc for some time to come. Ron Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically oriented collectors only. The same will be for posters. Younger people will stop buying posters. THat generation will have digital displays so they can change whatever they want to show Posters for the obvious titles will always sell. A poster after all is the same as an art print. so Frankenstein, Casablanca, Snow White will always sell. Getting Gerties Garter however, or My Side of the Mountain.. well they are hardly requested anyway. So the hobby will compress as our generations die off, much like that nearly forgotten hobby - pulp magazines Rich Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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And not only wild postings. Modern advertizing does not limit itself to one or two ways of spreading the good word. Every possible private and public space that can be used, will be used. We've seen an enormous surge in both huge building sized banners on the one hand and handbill flyers or postcards on the other. Paper wil, in the near future anyway, remain a cheap way for advertizing. If that will help the hobby is another story. Old paper is ofcourse not very sexy, especially when it isn't new. Let's hope there will remain enough old farts. Wim Op 1 dec 2008, om 06:52 heeft Ron het volgende geschreven: One interesting - but likely temporary - roadblock to all this digitalism will be fear of hackers. Some time ago I interviewed someone at the forefront of digital projection systems, and her big concern (and that of the corporation she worked for) was that whatever $$$ the studios saved in making and distributing physical prints to theatres they would pay out in anti-hacking software, firewalls etc. Think how disastrous (also potentially hilarious) it would be if the tagline on movie posters in every theatre in the world could be altered with a keystroke... one such incident, if it indeed had a deep impact on the film's resulting box office, might make studios long for the good old days of paper posters. One last point, I think there will be paper posters printed for wild postings and convention giveaways etc for some time to come. Ron Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital displays are the direction theatres will be headed first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed for such a distribution network. these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send out to individual theaters etc. shipping by truck after printing and then individually to theaters is a greater expense than printing them also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc. a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to change the language fonts When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is create it in the central computer feed it - simultaneously all over the world But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can gang them up creating ever larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor cinema The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the film itself for digital theatres. another savings where does the hobby go? well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly newer collectors would be less likely Look at the comics hobby. Marvel DC publish fewer comics today than they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics Stories had a print run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years. The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel DC will cease paper publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a mini-disc for a reader that you take wherever you go, in addition to just reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically
