Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
Can't understand the flap here. I considered the musical quote in The Artist to be a clever homage to a great film's score. No problem for me. Delightful film. Delightful score, including the amiable Vertigo quote. But wait until you see my next post-- on another subject! Joe B in NOLA From: Toochis Morin fly...@pacbell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's Somebody should do a retrospective of his work. Where is he based? This could be very fun. From: rixpost...@aol.com rixpost...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 5:42:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's Hi, Rich, I'm sure those words were written by Frank Jacobs, a friend of mine and a movie poster collector as well (mostly 30's + 40's musicals). Everyone remembers the cartoonists at Mad--- Don Martin, Sergio Arigones and so many others---but the names of the writers from the early years of Mad are generally forgotten. It's really unfortunate because Frank and the other writers came up with a ton of brilliant material. Frank was the one who usually wrote song parodies like the one you posted. A truly great talent and a really nice man as well... Rick In a message dated 2/14/2012 2:08:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: when I hear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazine had in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beef patty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty What can you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, why must it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
Frank lives in L.A.---in the Valley. I believe he appeared at a Comic-Con in San Diego a couple of years ago. He's written a screenplay about the history of Mad Magazine and its founder William Gaines and the last I heard from him (a year or so ago) he was frustrated that something was hanging up its production. Not sure of its status at this point... Rick In a message dated 2/14/2012 6:06:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, fly...@pacbell.net writes: Somebody should do a retrospective of his work. Where is he based? This could be very fun. From: rixpost...@aol.com rixpost...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 5:42:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's Hi, Rich, I'm sure those words were written by Frank Jacobs, a friend of mine and a movie poster collector as well (mostly 30's + 40's musicals). Everyone remembers the cartoonists at Mad--- Don Martin, Sergio Arigones and so many others---but the names of the writers from the early years of Mad are generally forgotten. It's really unfortunate because Frank and the other writers came up with a ton of brilliant material. Frank was the one who usually wrote song parodies like the one you posted. A truly great talent and a really nice man as well... Rick In a message dated 2/14/2012 2:08:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: when I hear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazine had in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beef patty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty What can you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, why must it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
I love Moon River, but I catch myself going back and forth on Breakfast at Tiffany's. The film is lovely and has a five star opening, a lovely bridge in the middle when Audrey sings Moon River on a guitar and a five-star ending. But the stuff in-between isn't funny to me, certainly not the party scene nor Mickey Rooney's efforts at playing a horny Japanese dolt while channeling Jerry Lewis. (But after a couple of beers, I admit I DO laugh at Rooney's facial expressions with his buck teeth and glasses, e.g., esp. when he says, MISS GO-RIGHT-REE, I MAUST PRO-TEST!). The movie plays better to me as drama than comedy. Cut some of the junk out and you have a masterpiece because the story is really about Audrey as a lost woman who puts on a front that she doesn't want to be tied to anyone but who in fact is dying to be loved. Without Moon River in Tiffanys, I would go as far as saying you've lost 3/4ths of the heart of that picture! -d. P.S. - A MoPo member wrote me privately today that another memorable tune is Moonglow in Picnic. How could I have left that out? Great tune, especially when the violins come up mid-way through the piano. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:20:28 -0600 From: ki...@movieart.net Subject: Re: OT: Bernard Herrmann, Vertigo and The Artist To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Those songs are all memorable, of course. The history of MOON RIVER is addressed in FIFTH AVENUE, 5 A.M., Sam Wasson's little book about the making of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S. This is a very entertaining read. The footnotes are almost as entertaining as the text. The most amazing thing about MOON RIVER is that the top exec at Paramount did not like it and wanted to rip it out. The producers had to fight for it. Paramount also wanted to have someone else sing it, not Audrey Hepburn. They also had to fight for hiring Henry Mancini! Imagine that. Today's TIFFANY'S will have no score at all, just songs by ADELE, FLEET FOXES, WILCO, you get the idea. Nothing against any of those artists, just saying! Another fascinating story in the book is how George Peppard thought HE was the star of the film! And nobody liked him. But the best is the account of the filming of the party and how that experience morphed into the idea for making THE PARTY. Kirby On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:33 AM, David Kusumoto wrote:Thanks for providing that link, Kirby. Great story-behind-the-song, Unchained Melody. I never tire of hearing or reading about - the origins of some of the great classics of any decade. And wouldn't you know that of course some of the greatest songs have their genesis in bittersweet tales buried in the folds of some poor soul's brain. I think everyone remembers the one that either got away or could have been something - had you had the courage to act quickly on a passing window of time. Then, in an era of social media like Facebook - when you are indeed able to re-connect with that person or persons many years later - you find yourself lamenting at what could have been - and/or ruminating about time's unforgiving nature on the fresh memories of youth. Some songs and movies have tremendous replay value and I never tire hearing or watching them repeatedly. Songs in particular that weird me all out with emotion include the theme from A Summer Place, Moon River, I Left My Heart in San Francisco, The Way You Look Tonight and - (here's one that's so corny that I'm afraid to admit it) - Petula Clark's rendition of Downtown. Man oh man I'd love to learn the back stories of those songs. -d. Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:27:26 -0600From: kirby@MOVIEART.NETSubject: Re: OT: Bernard Herrmann, Vertigo and The ArtistTo: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Alex North was and is one of my favorite film score composers. I loved his score for SPARTACUS, for CLEOPATRA, and for WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? I was disappointed in '64 when North's magnificent score for CLEOPATRA lost to John Addison's magnificent score for TOM JONES. Years later I still love both. But perhaps North's greatest single achievement was writing the melody for one of the most beautiful popular songs ever written, Unchained Melody, from the rather unknown film UNCHAINED (1955). The story of this song is very interesting. I learned some things I did not know about the unusual history of the song when I googled the title not long ago This is the link: http://www.martin.mesanetworks.net/unchained/unchained.html There are many good versions of the song, but, for me, no version is as alluring as the fragment of the song that is heard in Joni Mitchell's Chinese Cafe / Unchained Melody on her early eighties album Wild Things Run Fast. Kirby Kirby McDanielMovieArt Original Film PostersP.O. Box 4419Austin TX 78765-4419512 479 6680 www.movieart.netmobile 512 589 5112 On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Neil Jaworski wrote:I haven't seen The Artist yet, but will take a bet that it was not the director's original
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
A couple of beers? Is that all it takes? K. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:37 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: (But after a couple of beers, I admit I DO laugh at Rooney's facial expressions with his buck teeth and glasses, e.g., esp. when he says, MISS GO-RIGHT-REE, I MAUST PRO-TEST!). Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
At the risk of perpetuating a stereotype, most people know that many Asians can't process alcohol properly. For some of us, just one ounce can knock us out. Get us behind a wheel and our prowess navigating roads goes from bad to worse. A dog could drive better with its eyes closed. :-) - kuz. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:44:51 -0600 From: ki...@movieart.net Subject: Re: OT: Moon River and Tiffany's To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU A couple of beers? Is that all it takes? K. Kirby McDanielMovieArt Original Film PostersP.O. Box 4419Austin TX 78765-4419512 479 6680 www.movieart.netmobile 512 589 5112 On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:37 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:(But after a couple of beers, I admit I DO laugh at Rooney's facial expressions with his buck teeth and glasses, e.g., esp. when he says, MISS GO-RIGHT-REE, I MAUST PRO-TEST!). Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
Hey Dave and all... I am coming into this thread late but had to comment. All the songs that Dave mentioned are the same for me, especially Downtown. I can remember running down the streets of Hollywood when I was about 9 years old with my sister singing that song at the top of our lungs. To this day, whenever, I hear it, that is where my mind floats back to. Moon River is a song that pulls at my heartstrings every time I hear it. My mind goes to Audrey sitting in that window singing and so much emotion seems to fill me up. I never quite understood that power but just accept it as the way it is for me. I have always viewed that film as a drama, also. While the comedic scenes have their moments, it is this lost soul that I have the connection with and it is one of those films that you beg for a happy ending even though you know it will come with great sadness, but revelation. I'm not normally quite so philosophical, out loud, but knew Dave would understand. I love Moonglow and Picnic is one of my top 10 favorite films. I do love Mancini and another song that stirs me is The Days of Wine and Roses. The love them from Spartacus is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful and haunting themes in any film. For me, the score is just as important as the film and that is why Herrman, Kaper, Tiomkin, North, Goldsmith, Mancini, countless more, and one of my favs, Elmer Bernstein are unbelievable. The theme to To Kill a Mockingbird is so simple, yet so beautiful. I heard Bernstein talk about it once and he said that he wrote it with a child in mind. How a child would sit down at the piano and play one note at a time. That theme meshes so incredibly with the opening credits of the film. I think we could all go on for days about music and films. I have yet to see The Artist, but hope to do so soon. I actually just rewatched Point of No Return with Bridget Fonda and was reminded of how much I love Nina Simone and have now introduced her to my 15 year old daughter. So...happy times at the movies all!! Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:37:54 -0800 From: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love Moon River, but I catch myself going back and forth on Breakfast at Tiffany's. The film is lovely and has a five star opening, a lovely bridge in the middle when Audrey sings Moon River on a guitar and a five-star ending. But the stuff in-between isn't funny to me, certainly not the party scene nor Mickey Rooney's efforts at playing a horny Japanese dolt while channeling Jerry Lewis. (But after a couple of beers, I admit I DO laugh at Rooney's facial expressions with his buck teeth and glasses, e.g., esp. when he says, MISS GO-RIGHT-REE, I MAUST PRO-TEST!). The movie plays better to me as drama than comedy. Cut some of the junk out and you have a masterpiece because the story is really about Audrey as a lost woman who puts on a front that she doesn't want to be tied to anyone but who in fact is dying to be loved. Without Moon River in Tiffanys, I would go as far as saying you've lost 3/4ths of the heart of that picture! -d. P.S. - A MoPo member wrote me privately today that another memorable tune is Moonglow in Picnic. How could I have left that out? Great tune, especially when the violins come up mid-way through the piano. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:20:28 -0600 From: ki...@movieart.net Subject: Re: OT: Bernard Herrmann, Vertigo and The Artist To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Those songs are all memorable, of course. The history of MOON RIVER is addressed in FIFTH AVENUE, 5 A.M., Sam Wasson's little book about the making of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S. This is a very entertaining read. The footnotes are almost as entertaining as the text. The most amazing thing about MOON RIVER is that the top exec at Paramount did not like it and wanted to rip it out. The producers had to fight for it. Paramount also wanted to have someone else sing it, not Audrey Hepburn. They also had to fight for hiring Henry Mancini! Imagine that. Today's TIFFANY'S will have no score at all, just songs by ADELE, FLEET FOXES, WILCO, you get the idea. Nothing against any of those artists, just saying! Another fascinating story in the book is how George Peppard thought HE was the star of the film! And nobody liked him. But the best is the account of the filming of the party and how that experience morphed into the idea for making THE PARTY. Kirby On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:33 AM, David Kusumoto wrote: Thanks for providing that link, Kirby. Great story-behind-the-song, Unchained Melody. I never tire of hearing or reading about - the origins of some of the great classics of any decade. And wouldn't you know that of course some of the greatest songs have their genesis in bittersweet tales buried in the folds of some poor soul's brain. I
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
when I hear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazine had in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beef patty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty What can you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, why must it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Thanks for providing my first laughing-out-loud-like-a-lunatic-while-sitting-at-an-office-desk moment of the day! - kuz! Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:08:40 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: OT: Moon River and Tiffany's To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU when I hear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazine had in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beef patty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty What can you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, why must it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Brilliant!! From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 2:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's when I hear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazine had in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beef patty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty What can you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, why must it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's
Hi, Rich, I'm sure those words were written by Frank Jacobs, a friend of mine and a movie poster collector as well (mostly 30's + 40's musicals). Everyone remembers the cartoonists at Mad--- Don Martin, Sergio Arigones and so many others---but the names of the writers from the early years of Mad are generally forgotten. It's really unfortunate because Frank and the other writers came up with a ton of brilliant material. Frank was the one who usually wrote song parodies like the one you posted. A truly great talent and a really nice man as well... Rick In a message dated 2/14/2012 2:08:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: when I hear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazine had in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beef patty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty What can you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on your table, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, why must it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Somebody should do a retrospective of his work. Where is he based? This could be very fun. From: rixpost...@aol.com rixpost...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 5:42:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Moon River and Tiffany's Hi, Rich, I'm sure those words were written by Frank Jacobs, a friend of mine and a movie poster collector as well (mostly 30's + 40's musicals). Everyone remembers the cartoonists at Mad--- Don Martin, Sergio Arigones and so many others---but the names of the writers from the early years of Mad are generally forgotten. It's really unfortunate because Frank and the other writers came up with a ton of brilliant material. Frank was the one who usually wrote song parodies like the one you posted. A truly great talent and a really nice man as well... Rick In a message dated 2/14/2012 2:08:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: when Ihear downtown, all I can remember are the spoof lyrics that MAD magazinehad in an issue in teh 1960s it went like this: When you eatmeat but hate the meat that you're eating then you've surely got, GROUNDROUND It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving in an eatingspot, GROUND ROUND I may be called a chopped steak, salisbury or beefpatty No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty Whatcan you do? Go up to your waiter there, loudly pound on yourtable, stand up on your chair, and shout: GROUND ROUND, always you'reserving me, GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me, GROUND ROUND, whymust it always be, GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round... Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Siteat www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPoMailing List Send a message addressed to:lists...@listserv.american.edu Inthe BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solelyresponsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
