Re: Fw: MSX to VGA
Hi Sorry about the schematics going crazy. I typed them in Courier New - no TAB's only spaces. Good fudeba :-) (Schem2.gif) ++---ï?; Composite || |---\ | |---\ +--|\ Composite --+-|\| AND |--ï?; Hsync | AND |---|/ Vsync -+-|/|---/ | |---/ | +ï?;Vsync Sorry to bug you again, but the schematic above, the schematic in the GIF and the schematic in your earlier posting are all different! The above schematic has no inverters on the ports (out = in1 AND in2), the GIF uses AND with inverted inputs (out = (NOT in1) AND (NOT in2)) whereas the original schematic used NAND ports (out = NOT(in1 AND in2)). And those three are definitely different :-) Eric (I guess using the IC is the easiest solution, right? ;-P) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MSX to VGA
I saw there was some discussion on this topic, but it looks as if there never was a defnite answer. That's partly because nobody seems to know how to reach the author of the Novatec circuit (I tried through Novatec, but he seems to have mysteriously disappeared from the surface of the earth; maybe thats him in the well known movie from MIR space station, with the Sony MSX-2 :-). The problem with RGB to VGA seems to be that is needs a different scan frequency than 50 or 60 Hz, so I wonder if your solution will work. I've been looking for information about that on the web some time ago, but I was discouraged. Let us know if you make any progress! Pierre MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Fw: MSX to VGA
--- JP Grobler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sorry about the schematics going crazy. I typed them in Courier New - no TAB's only spaces. Aren't e-mails always read on fixed-lenght fonts anyway? :) But fact is that I don't need a VGA adapter for the MSX. I'm gonna run the application right on the IBM-PC, no MSX involved. I'm using an emulator. Ok? Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: DISK.ROM Influence?
I am not. But if you send this in info in clear QA format to the above address, I will add it as soon as I get back. Promised. Ok, thanks. But my discover was proven to be false by our friend Werner, so this case is enclosed at least by now. :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian Cheese Breads (off-topic)
You make me very curious... Would it in some way be possible to send one to me? Or actually six, also for the rest of my family. Make that ten, I also want some friends of mine to taste it... I'd love to! But assuming you live in the US that would be a problem. I've heard the US doesn't allow foreign food to even enter the country. If you're happily flying to the US eating your tasty cheese breads, you better finish before the end of the flight, otherwise you're gonna cry watching them being thrown in the trash can! (Oh, my cheese breads, snif, snif!) :) There's another problem too... Cheese breads are better while still hot / warm. If they get cold, they lose 99% of their splendour, but are still good, though. :) Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
What do YOU think, should a new MSX be developed? Will it have a chance in the market that's dominated by PC's and 64 bit game consoles? Or will it create it's own market? -- Well, as everyone of you know, the Msx-scene is the cwlest scene you can imagine..;) It's the only scene where 'normal' people still can create demo's/games/ magazines etc. with getting respect for it.. If you want to make demo's/games for pc or something, you have to be very good and you've got to use profesional hardware to get some respect, and even to get noticed.. So I think a lot of people are looking for a new hobby/home computer especially made for the demoscene. A demo scene like we've got... the current msx scene, with our clubday's, fairs etc. A scene where people are interested in what you are doing. Now you think, well, why is the current msx-scene so small then?? I think most of the msx'ers have had enough of the current msxes.. They think It was fun to work with, but it's to slow for this time.. (I know ex-msx'ers who will return to msx, if it just was a little bit faster/better) My opinion is: A new msx must be developped. It must be a real home/hobby computer so there will be a marked for in the demo/hobby scene.. Then there will be 3 sorts of computers: -Pc's - for professional use (companies, textediting, spreadsheats etc.) -Gameconsoles - for gamefanatics, children etc. -Msx (homecomputers) - to use for fun, hobby.. and to create your own products.. And I think Ascii will use Msx, since they already have the copyrights (most of them) and there already is a msx-demoscene That's my opinion, please correct me if you think I'm wrong. Grz, Chaos^TwZ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
MoonBlaster 1.4 replayer...
Could any1 provide me with the MoonBlaster 1.4 replay routine... (SOURCE!) ... ? I can't find it on the net! hehe... mzl. d-fader^TwZ (yep, we're busy again!) :)
Re: MoonBlaster 1.4 replayer...
At 15:21 13-7-00 +0200, you wrote: Could any1 provide me with the MoonBlaster 1.4 replay routine... (SOURCE!) ... ? I can't find it on the net! hehe... Try the MCCM CD's GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MoonBlaster 1.4 replayer...
Try the MCCM CD's MCCM Cd's??? The ones I don't have, you mean??? mzl. me. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
I'd be running fast back to MSX if there was a UNIX like OS available. I've got very excited a while ago when I've read somewhere that some guys where trying to develop a Linux version for MSX. MSX is the best computer ever created, man... It must be continued! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian Cheese Breads (off-topic)
Why don't you save some money and COME to next Brazilian MSX meeting ? Sometimes I think you don't know exactly where and how is Brazil... I just can say that is certainly more, much more than you think... I read at Fony's HP that Stephan was amazed with Tokyo. Maybe It's because he doesn't know Sao Paulo yet... []s Werner People around the world believe that where I live (Rio Grande do Sul) is still just nature untouched by mankind... LOL! :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Got It Straight!!
It worked! I'm running the application now in 80 columns, thanks! It's just a shame that the fonts in 80 columns mode suck too bad... :( Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MoonBlaster 1.4 replayer...
I nagged: Then you can't search. ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msx/music/mbm/mbr143.pma or aurora2.pma (same directory) D-Fader: Hmmm heheheh... mbr143.pma is *NOT* a SOURCE of the replayer... it's a proggie which can PLAY mbm files! :) hehe... Oops! Hm, well, erhm, tja, I can't check the contents of PMA packages here @ work, sorry. But AFAIK, AURORA2.PMA should contain sources (put'em there myself, heheh). Be warned though, these are not the original MB replayer files, but slightly modified versions. Eric MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
"Ðiogo Sperb Schneider" wrote: I'd be running fast back to MSX if there was a UNIX like OS available. I've got very excited a while ago when I've read somewhere that some guys where trying to develop a Linux version for MSX. Well, you SHOULD take a look at my Jahu photo gallery to get a glimpse of a small fraction of what Brazilian fudebas are doing nowadays: http://jahu99.parn.cjb.net There isn't and there will never be Linux for MSX, but UNIX for MSX *does* exist, and it's called UZIX: http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~adrcunha/uzix/ All these links are in English, so you have no excuse not to read them. And there's not much text, you can read it in a couple minutes. MSX is the best computer ever created, man... It must be continued! Agreed. -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MSX to VGA
Tsc, tsc, tsc... No comments about this sad statement... If your 10 years old 5 1/4 floppies that contain important data were starting to degenerate, you'd probably understand. Me too! I almost became crazy when I use my TR! My MSX doesn't have that "amazing" Windows OS! My doesn't crash the system with a blue screen! My MSX doesn't need the state-of-the-art-sound-and-video-card to run cool games! My MSX doesn't have those stupid kill-everything-that- moves games! My MSX doesn't have those stupid classic-shooting'up-games- now-with-3D-graphics-that-needs-a-monster-video-card-to-run! My MSX doesn't take more than 1 minute to boot! :PPP :) Windows? Are you crazy? Who runs Windows on PCs these days? :) The brazilian MSX-Logo is just a hack. The original MSX-Logo ROM can be found on Funet. This ROM is not so rare as you think. Ok, but it doesn't come with a dutch dictionary. :) No, the brazilian MSX Logo is not just a hack, it's a translated version, very useful for educational purposes. Too bad it's not in english, though. But at least portuguese is a language I can translate to english. As I said to you, start your emulator in MSX2 mode (duuuhhh...). No need to repeat that. Nope. It's emulator's fudeba author fault. :) Are you sure? Oh, I see... DOS kernel doesn't know what "pipe" is. :) Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
"Ðiogo Sperb Schneider" wrote: http://www.scifi-br.nu/mailman/listinfo/msxbr-l Thanks! But I'm sorry, I really dislike portuguese. Specially on computer-related stuff! :) You mean you never talk to anyone in Portuguese? Or would you mean you never talk to anyone in Portuguese about computer stuff? Weird! :P It doesn't seem very smart to keep yourself away from developments and discussions taken in your very own country. However, you can be smart and do stupid things, and vice versa. `:))) MSXBR-L is the best way to know what people are doing in Brazil, and if you have some questions related to Brazilian MSX software or hardware it's also the quickest way to get answers. And, of course, not all Brazilians can speak English. []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MSX to VGA
erhm, stupid question maybe, but wouldn't it be easier to run your software on a MSX2 emulator? MSX2 has 80 columns in SCREEN 0 by default... Sorry, I've never had the pleasure to play with a real MSX 2. Now that I know about that my application is running fine in 80 columns mode, thanks! Hm, probably, the 80-columns card contains more hardware than just ROM, so just loading the ROM in your emu won't help: the emu has to emulate the rest of the hardware as well... Exactly, but I thought some emulators could emulate that card already, just like the FM-PAC, MegaRAMs, SCC chip, RS-232 interface, etc... Talking about emulation... What do you think about the MESS project? It's the best emulator I've found to date. It lacks disk support, though, but for games it's cool. I wonder why some emulator authors deny to join big projects such as MAME and MESS. Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MSX to VGA
You might try the following: 1) Start the emulator with option -msx2 to enable MSX2 emulation 2) Once in BASIC, enter the command: screen 0 3) Once in screen 0, enter the command: width 80 4) Once in screen 0, 80 column mode, enter the command: set screen This last command will save your default screen mode to the CMOS RAM (which is maintained in a configuration file by the emulator) After doing this, your emulator will always boot in a 80-column MSX2 mode. Perhaps that your programs can work with this mode. And perhaps not, but you can try... Outstanding! Thanks! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Konami's Shalom (Knightmare 3)
Does somebody know about a translated version of Shalom? I believe that game must be pretty cool, unfortunatelly the fact that it is in japanese makes it unplayable by people like me (that know absolutely nothing about japanese). Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Fw: MSX to VGA
HI Sorry I know the scematics differ. I only collected them form the web and can not say if they would work. I contacted the author because his pictures and comments on the schematics differ. I gave the urls where I got mi info from: http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/vgamonitor.html Is the url with the schematics in question. I personaly believe the gifs to be correct, but I'll check. The IC would be the easiest - yes!' I promise to play around a bit more. Let's not say: "We did not try!" I mailed to Andre Delavy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] who is said to have build a msx to vga cable but this e-mail does not work. Does any body know how to contact him? JP GROBLER [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Microsoft SuX
Does somebody know if MSX is really MicroSoft eXtended? I can't believe that... The MSX couldn't be designed by the same company that makes all this crap that has turned into a "software standard" today. (Not in my computer) Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MSX to VGA
HI Sorry I know the scematics differ. I only collected them form the web and can not say if they would work. I contacted the author because his pictures and comments on the schematics differ. I gave the urls where I got mi info from: http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/vgamonitor.html Is the url with the schematics in question. I personaly believe the gifs to be correct, but I'll check. The IC would be the easiest - yes!' I promise to play around a bit more. Let's not say: "We did not try!" I mailed to Andre Delavy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] who is said to have build a msx to vga cable but this e-mail does not work. Does any body know how to contact him? JP GROBLER [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
If you want to make demo's/games for pc or something, you have to be very good and you've got to use profesional hardware to get some respect, and even to get noticed.. This would mean that the pc-demoscene is some cold graveyard ?? not at all..! It's true that most pc-sceners started on c64/amiga/atari but @ my group for ex. the 3 main dutch coders started on msx(2)(2+).. and Nix (who worked at Eidos, and now converts pc games to dreamcast) is ex-The New Image ! .. The main difference between msx/c64 and pc nowadays is that on pc's all gfx-fx are official methods. It's just "who has the fastest engine".. the MSX/C64 on the other hand is pretty slow (too slow for the official way how to produce an effect) but has some nice hidden hardware tweaks.. and that's the fun part.. believe me.. since parties allow hardware-accelerated cards (tnt2, geforce etc.) most demos look smooth and boring! colleges here start to make demos for the color-gameboy.. just to find out that tricks again.. so, a new msx can go 2 ways. 1 a fast beast so that anyone can do fx the official way 2 a trick-box with limitations here and there but with alot of hidden stuff to discover.. let's choose one of them :) \/\/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Sega will visit MSX Den-yu Land 2000
Hi, I've received an email from Ikeda a while ago, and he has confirmed that people from Sega will visit the fair to look at the MSX scene and try to decide whether it may be of interest for them to program for MSX or not. Good news (I guess). Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aamsx.org MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Does somebody know if MSX is really MicroSoft eXtended? I can't believe that... The MSX couldn't be designed by the same company that makes all this crap that has turned into a "software standard" today. (Not in my computer) so.. did you like ms-dos 6.x ? :) windows isn't the most stable platform around.. nope.. (and that's an understatement :) but at least ppl in shops know that they can buy anything they see.. because wintel is pretty standard. That was once the reason why MSX was created, remember? Even when M$ deserves several punishments (axes, knifes, you name it.. I'll give them :) at least they made it good job by forcing a standard.. don't get me wrong.. there are several moments each week when I'm getting red of anger when I get that "this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" text again! But 100% dummies (like my dad ;) can buy any product from a store.. that's worth something too.. \/\/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
TFH/Fony wrote: Sorry to disappoint you.. But although there is a discussion what the X stands for, the MS definitely stands for Micro$oft.. I'd rather believe that it means "Matsushita-Sony- name-your-company". It sounds better, and we all can brag ASCII is smarter than Microsoft. ^^ Of course, this doens't mean they earn more money... :P []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
RE: Sega will visit MSX Den-yu Land 2000
oh boy, I think I just wet my pants :-) M : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: 13 July 2000 16:50 : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Sega will visit MSX Den-yu Land 2000 : : : : Hi, : : I've received an email from Ikeda a while ago, and he has confirmed that : people from Sega will visit the fair to look at the MSX scene and try to : decide whether it may be of interest for them to program for MSX or not. : MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Does somebody know if MSX is really MicroSoft eXtended? I can't believe that... The MSX couldn't be designed by the same company that makes all this crap that has turned into a "software standard" today. (Not in my computer) Sorry to disappoint you.. But although there is a discussion what the X stands for, the MS definitely stands for Micro$oft.. Or, as the Japanse claim, it stands for Matsushita/Sony. Rieks. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
At 07:19 13-7-00 -0700, you wrote: Does somebody know if MSX is really MicroSoft eXtended? I can't believe that... The MSX couldn't be designed by the same company that makes all this crap that has turned into a "software standard" today. (Not in my computer) Actually, the MicroSoft eXtended refers to the Basic, which is GW-Basic with some more things. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian Cheese Breads (off-topic)
Cheese breads are better while still hot / warm. Now I'm getting interested. Maybe you have a recipe for such a splendid Brazilian Cheese Bread? Pierre MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian Cheese Breads (off-topic)
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, "Ðiogo" Sperb Schneider wrote: You make me very curious... Would it in some way be possible to send one to me? Or actually six, also for the rest of my family. Make that ten, I also want some friends of mine to taste it... I'd love to! But assuming you live in the US that would be a problem. I've heard the US doesn't allow foreign food to even enter the country. Laurens lives in the Netherlands, like many other MSX-ers on this list. Only his e-mail address is from the US. For some reason MSX was never a big success in the US. However, EU food laws may be just as strict as the US ones. There's another problem too... Cheese breads are better while still hot / warm. If they get cold, they lose 99% of their splendour, but are still good, though. :) As Pierre suggested, a maybe sending a recipe would do the trick? About travelling to Brazil: right now, I'm a student and I haven't got the money for such an expensive plane ticket. Maybe in the future, but I cannot promise anything. Bye, Maarten MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
--- Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you SHOULD take a look at my Jahu photo gallery to get a glimpse of a small fraction of what Brazilian fudebas are doing nowadays: http://jahu99.parn.cjb.net Cool! There isn't and there will never be Linux for MSX, but UNIX for MSX *does* exist, and it's called UZIX: http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~adrcunha/uzix/ Why are you so sure? For Linux to run, all we need is a suitable kernel. Linux kernels were originally intended for i386 machines only, but it has been ported to PowerPC, i286, Amiga and a few others... Why shouldn't it be ported to the Z80? All these links are in English, so you have no excuse not to read them. And there's not much text, you can read it in a couple minutes. Sure! Any website should be in english as the Internet is available to the whole world and their webmasters are supposed to want that as much people as possible read their content. = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Or, as the Japanse claim, it stands for Matsushita/Sony. MSX BASIC version 2.1 Copyright 1986 by Microsoft or MSX System version 1.0 copyright 1983 by Microsoft. That's what MSX machines say. And as Micrsoft has a habit of shortening their name to MS... It would make sense Arnaud -- Visit the MEP, Over 2600 Games online: MAIN: http://www.file-hunter.com/ MIRROR: http://www.mepmirror.cjb.net/ FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Ðiogo Sperb Schneider wrote: Why are you so sure? For Linux to run, all we need is a suitable kernel. Linux kernels were originally intended for i386 machines only, but it has been ported to PowerPC, i286, Amiga and a few others... Why shouldn't it be ported to the Z80? Because you would have to rewrite the kernel almost completely. Memory management, scheduling, etc. It would be a completely different kernel, so it wouldn't be Linux. Oh, and there ISN'T a port of Linux for the 286. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aamsx.org MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Hi! Sorry to disappoint you.. But although there is a discussion what the X stands for, the MS definitely stands for Micro$oft.. Regards, Arnaud Other thing that I don't know is... If it is Microsoft stuff, how come it was almost unknown in the US, Microsoft's home? Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Or, as the Japanse claim, it stands for Matsushita/Sony. If I understood the Japanese story correctly, it means MicroSoft eXtended Matsushita Sony Xamaha (ahum) etc. etc. etc. Just not one meaning, but a lot of meanings, so all producing brands would agree on the name, (Philips would not have produced a Matsushita Sony machine, Microsoft doesn't want to connect it's name to Matsushita and Sony alone etc. etc. etc. etc) In the story we probably all read (Ikeda's MSX print) it says something like 'In the end the abbreviation had about 13 different meanings' Greetz, Sander MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Other thing that I don't know is... If it is Microsoft stuff, how come it was almost unknown in the US, Microsoft's home? Well.. I'ts not a question if it is from MicroSoft. It definately is. Just check out your boot-up screens of your MSX. It's MicroSoft allright... Arnaud -- Visit the MEP, Over 2600 Games online: MAIN: http://www.file-hunter.com/ MIRROR: http://www.mepmirror.cjb.net/ FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
--- "Maarten van Strien (cs^tbl)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so.. did you like ms-dos 6.x ? :) No! 5.0 was less "protected". windows isn't the most stable platform around.. It's not even a platform, it's an user interface. It's platform is still DOS. :) nope.. (and that's an understatement :) but at least ppl in shops know that they can buy anything they see.. because wintel is pretty standard. That was once the reason why MSX was created, remember? Even when M$ deserves several punishments (axes, knifes, you name it.. I'll give them :) at least they made it good job by forcing a standard.. A standard for what? Not for decent computer software, but for TVs with mouses (lusers don't even type in the keyboard). don't get me wrong.. there are several moments each week when I'm getting red of anger when I get that "this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" text again! But 100% dummies (like my dad ;) can buy any product from a store.. that's worth something too.. We have different opinions, pal. I respect yours, but my opinion is that people should have a "minimal knowledge" degree to use computers. Like a driver's license or like that. :) People that just want to play games, send e-mail and print "important" stuff should use other kind of machine, not computers. Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Sega will visit MSX Den-yu Land 2000
--- ag0ny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've received an email from Ikeda a while ago, and he has confirmed that people from Sega will visit the fair to look at the MSX scene and try to decide whether it may be of interest for them to program for MSX or not. Good news (I guess). That's cool to hear that a big name company might be interested on our beloved MSX, but my memories about Sega games on the MSX don't get me quite excited. :) Konami would be a very different story! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
"Ðiogo Sperb Schneider" wrote: (...) Doesn't seem very smart for whose opinion? Is that a standard? I try to keep up-to-date with anything I consider interesting, that's not a geographical issue here. I meant you could ignore something that otherwise you could know with a minimum effort. `:) At least, it's a waste of those tiny grey cells... :) Maybe. The problem about brazilian MSX computers and their developers is that they tried to get away from the MSX standards. The Expert has it's character table Jesus Rice, this is not true! Character tables aren't part of MSX standard, as you can see in any Japanese MSX ROM. Some games, like Payload, even use extended characters which don't look the same in every MSX. You can find 10 different character tables in different MSX models and this doesn't mean they're incompatible. altered, while the HotBit has serious hardware problems. "Sorry, you won't be able to run this What were those hardware problems? Unless you mean those horrid cursor-keys... :P Just kidding, I know it's just a matter of personal preference... ;) But, really, I never heard about HotBit hardware compatibility issues... software on your HotBit / Expert". Everybody knows how Of course, this means this specific software isn't well written and doesn't take into account possible differences which *are* supported under MSX standards. Like the main RAM slot, for example. standards are important. Fortunatelly with emulators, you can run a virtual MSX with the original Microsoft MSX ROM. This is no big deal, because if you follow the MSX standards you could rewrite the entire ROM, but then it would be too much of a hassle, and you wouldn't take into account differences between real MSXs, and you would introduce incompatibilities with badly written software which doesn't comply with MSX standards. Theoretically, any machine following MSX standards should behave the same way, software-wise. Entry points should be the same, supported Basic state- ments should be the same, hooks should be in the same place, etc. And, of course, not all Brazilians can speak English. That's exactly their worst problem. Like it or not, everything related to technology is released first in This isn't really true! There is some *very* active MSX developing and it is discussed *every* night and day in IRC and mailing lists in *a lot* of countries, and Brazil isn't an exception. We have a quite active scene with a lot of good ideas popping out and most of them are discussed *first* in Portuguese. Why? Because it's easier for us and reaches the widest audience in our own country, where we can sometimes meet and make more things come true. Just to tell two creative names in software and hardware scenes: Ricardo Bittencourt and Ademir Carchano. And they're not the only two, there are more people. english. Waiting until someone with the time to spend translates new material to your home language is to waste precious time. You probably already got what I mean, but the bottom line is: not everything is available in English. There's a lot of good material in Dutch and Japanese, for exam- ple, and I bet Dutchmen and Japanese people don't shy away from that kind of info. Why wouldn't they? :) Not to mention how easily it would be to communicate about anything (not only about computers) if everybody knew the same language. Damn Babel Tower!! :) This is unavoidable. It would be a great thing if some goodwilled person translated every Dutch, Japanese, Spanish or Portuguese-only document to some lingua franca like English. But we don't have enough people for this job... :) And of course not every MSXer has time to learn Portuguese, Dutch, Japanese and Spanish, then why don't you want to use your knowledge of Portuguese? ;) I could talk about that for hours but I don't want to disappoint the list with off-topic subjects. Please don't think I'm a rude kind of guy, that's definitely not true. It's just the way I think and the ideas I fight for. :) I don't think that, as I expect you don't think that too. ^^ But really, you missed *a lot* of stuff by not keeping contact with Brazilian MSX Scene... []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MoonBlaster 1.4 replayer...
At 18:15 13-7-00 +, you wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Albert Beevendorp wrote: Could any1 provide me with the MoonBlaster 1.4 replay routine... (SOURCE!) ... ? I can't find it on the net! hehe... Try the MCCM CD's As far as I know, the MCCM CDs contain the source of MoonBlaster 1.4: the tracker, not the replayer. I thought the replay routine files are on there too... Or anyone who has MoonBlaster has the source of the replayer as it was delivered with the tracker to enable implementation of the music tracked. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian Cheese Breads (off-topic)
--- Pierre Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheese breads are better while still hot / warm. Now I'm getting interested. Maybe you have a recipe for such a splendid Brazilian Cheese Bread? Pierre I'll see what I can do for you... Maybe I could send a bag of insta-cheese-bread for you with the instructions translated to english? :) I could pack it like it was computer equipment. Silica gel? :) If you like it, maybe I move to Europe and place a well-succeeded cheese bread coffee shop, leaving the computers for personal hobby satisfaction only. :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Konami's Shalom (Knightmare 3)
--- Albert Beevendorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no translated version of Shalom, because of the huge amount of text it contains. That's what I thought... I've heard each japanese character may represent up to an entire statement on occidental languages. Probably the translation would turn the 256Kb into 1024Kb... :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
--- Albert Beevendorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the MicroSoft eXtended refers to the Basic, which is GW-Basic with some more things. Anybody mentioned sprites? :) The first thing I asked at the first time someone inroduced me to an IBM-PC was "How many sprites does it support?", just to get "Huh!?" as the answer. :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
At 10:31 13-7-00 -0700, you wrote: Sorry to disappoint you.. But although there is a discussion what the X stands for, the MS definitely stands for Micro$oft.. Other thing that I don't know is... If it is Microsoft stuff, how come it was almost unknown in the US, Microsoft's home? My guess is, they were too ashamed to have been involved with MSX or so as they already knew the market for MSX wouldn't be that as big as the PC is at the moment. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
"Ðiogo Sperb Schneider" wrote: http://jahu99.parn.cjb.net Cool! Thanks! :) There is some nice pictures in MSX Core Club page, too, but the subtitles are in Portuguese. If you don't mind it, take a look: http://msxjau99.cjb.net/ Even if you don't speak Portuguese, there are some things you can figure out... http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~adrcunha/uzix/ Why are you so sure? For Linux to run, all we need is a suitable kernel. Linux kernels were originally intended for i386 machines only, but it has been ported to PowerPC, i286, Amiga and a few others... Why shouldn't it be ported to the Z80? It's not that easy, but I'll let somebody else talk about this, because I'm afraid I'm not able to give the full, complete and exact explanation about this. But if I'm not mistaken the biggest drawback is the maximum size of the kernel, which should theoretically be no larger than 48Kb (today it has 32Kb and it's already maxed out by current specs). Sure! Any website should be in english as the Internet is available to the whole world and their webmasters are supposed to want that as much people as possible read their content. I partially disagree, because, as you said, you have a target audience, but sometimes your target audience isn't really that good in English. This is why my Jahu page is both English/Portuguese (there's some people to whom I'd like to show it who don't know English at all), my anime page is in Portuguese (there's already plenty of English anime pages in the web) and my music site is in English (but I intend to translate it to Portuguese, Spanish and Japanese someday). []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
TFH/Fony wrote: Other thing that I don't know is... If it is Microsoft stuff, how come it was almost unknown in the US, Microsoft's home? Well.. I'ts not a question if it is from MicroSoft. It definately is. Just check out your boot-up screens of your MSX. It's MicroSoft allright... I go for Sander's explanation. Microsoft was in charge of software, but MSX isn't only software... And, anyway, the MSX brand was created by ASCII, not Microsoft. `:)) []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
MSX Top Secret Book
hi Is the "MSX Top Secret" book by Edison Pires available online? or digital? Thanks JP Grobler [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MSX to VGA
Hi I looked at the novatec msx to vga circuits again. Seems to be a cartrige to be pluged in which will give you RGB and SVGA output. There is a flash eprom also involved thus I would think some software as well?? They also used the EL4583 to seperate the Hsync from the composite sync. JP Grobler I saw there was some discussion on this topic, but it looks as if there never was a defnite answer. That's partly because nobody seems to know how to reach the author of the Novatec circuit (I tried through Novatec, but he seems to have mysteriously disappeared from the surface of the earth; maybe thats him in the well known movie from MIR space station, with the Sony MSX-2 :-). The problem with RGB to VGA seems to be that is needs a different scan frequency than 50 or 60 Hz, so I wonder if your solution will work. I've been looking for information about that on the web some time ago, but I was discouraged. Let us know if you make any progress! Pierre MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Got It Straight!!
At 15:12 13-7-00 -0300, you wrote: It worked! I'm running the application now in 80 columns, thanks! It's just a shame that the fonts in 80 columns mode suck too bad... :( Se voce esta' usando o fMSX, a resolucao esta' muito baixa. Se esta' usando o BrMSX, usa o -res 11. A resolucao default pra MSX1, se usada em MSX2, deixa 80 colunas ilegivel (assim como no fMSX). Konichiwa, Habla Usted English? GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
--- Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus Rice, this is not true! Character tables aren't part of MSX standard, as you can see in any Japanese MSX ROM. Some games, like Payload, even use extended characters which don't look the same in every MSX. You can find 10 different character tables in different MSX models and this doesn't mean they're incompatible. Ok, but I can tell you I was damn disappointed when I've tried to run Parodius and it was hacked to fit the Expert's character table and not the Hotbit. Surely it was a problem with the not well written MegaRAM loader program, but if there was no such difference, there would be no problem also. :) What were those hardware problems? Unless you mean those horrid cursor-keys... :P Just kidding, I know it's just a matter of personal preference... ;) But, really, I never heard about HotBit hardware compatibility issues... I've read on the website of some guy (brazilian) that was developing a new MSX model and he documented that the HotBit had such problems. I don't know what problems exactly, though. This is unavoidable. It would be a great thing if some goodwilled person translated every Dutch, Japanese, Spanish or Portuguese-only document to some lingua franca like English. But we don't have enough people for this job... :) And of course not every MSXer has time to learn Portuguese, Dutch, Japanese and Spanish, then why don't you want to use your knowledge of Portuguese? ;) It's not that I don't want to use it, it's just that I'd like to avoid it. Maybe I'm just forcing a new standard. :) Maybe I'd like to make sure that it would be easier for everybody to interact, and keeping information in a language that is widely accessible is part of that action... Well... I don't think that, as I expect you don't think that too. ^^ But really, you missed *a lot* of stuff by not keeping contact with Brazilian MSX Scene... Great! And I'm sure that what you said is true. Unfortunatelly where I live the MSX presence has reduced to a very well kept white HotBit (1.0) that smells like new and a Nemesis 2 original japanese cartridge (crowd chants). Not even a disk interface I have. So you must agree that it has been very complicated to stay up to date. I was planning on upgrading that machine with some new stuff, like a RS-232 interface to connect it to my Linux box, etc... But I've decided that any investment towards the MSX would be done through a new system, prefferably a Sony MSX 2 or something of such degree. Hey, accessing the Internet through an MSX, specially if running a UNIX-like OS is my dream, man!! :) I'll try to stay tunned, I promise. Later! = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
--- Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. MSX BASIC interpreter is from Microsoft. In 8080 code. :) [just check some Z80 baad written pieces of code in BASIC ROM...] Ok... What if we all agree that MSX stands for Microsoft SuX? :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:02:32 +0200, TFH/Fony wrote: I'd rather believe that it means "Matsushita-Sony- name-your-company". It sounds better, and we all can brag ASCII is smarter than Microsoft. ^^ If I am correct, the MSX Basic Start Up Screen already mentions (c) 198x by Microsoft Most PC says: "Starting Microsoft Windows" on the boot, but PC was designed by IBM. One thing has nothing to do with another. - AbraçOS/2, Daniel Caetano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ OS/2 Sites: http://www.quasarbbs.com/daniel/ \/ - \/ http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8752/os2hp/os2index.html | | MSX Sites: http://www.fudeba.cjb.net/ -- -- Drawings:http://www.djgallery.tsx.org/ ...Programar e' a arte de organizar zeros e uns de forma que eles produzam trabalho util! MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Most PC says: "Starting Microsoft Windows" on the boot, but PC was designed by IBM. One thing has nothing to do with another. That's because of the installed O.S. What I was talking about in the the ROM of ALL MSX-es... Anyway... You just think and say what you want. I don't know why everbody now wants to deny that MSX was (partitialy) made/created/designed by Microsoft. It's a simpe fact Arnaud -- Visit the MEP, Over 2600 Games online: MAIN: http://www.file-hunter.com/ MIRROR: http://www.mepmirror.cjb.net/ FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:42:43 -0700 (PDT), "ðiogo" Sperb Schneider wrote: Why are you so sure? For Linux to run, all we need is a suitable kernel. Linux kernels were originally intended for i386 machines only, but it has been ported to PowerPC, i286, Amiga and a few others... Why shouldn't it be ported to the Z80? Because Linux kernel "way of life" requires a MMU, something not available at "normal" MSXs. Sure! Any website should be in english as the Internet is available to the whole world and their webmasters are supposed to want that as much people as possible read their content. Even the Portuguese to Portuguese dictionary? (((-: - AbraçOS/2, Daniel Caetano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ OS/2 Sites: http://www.quasarbbs.com/daniel/ \/ - \/ http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8752/os2hp/os2index.html | | MSX Sites: http://www.fudeba.cjb.net/ -- -- Drawings:http://www.djgallery.tsx.org/ ...Programar e' a arte de organizar zeros e uns de forma que eles produzam trabalho util! MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
] Which has been implemented in DOS2 already. And why is it so hard to ] initialize once without going to Basic? Does it have something to do with ] that CLEAR-issue? No. It has to do with the way in which MSXDOS.SYS (which is loaded in high area of memory) manages the DOS memory. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
] It clearly states the MSX SYSTEM is copyrighted by Microsoft, not only the ] Basic (software). Anyway, what does it matter. It just means MicroSoft also ] did some good things. Don't deny that I admit that they did a good thing by delivering the BASIC for allmost every homecomputer system that was developed in the early '80s. And as soon as they realized they where doing a good thing, they stopped with it to continue doing their bad things ;-) Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Got It Straight!!
] It worked! I'm running the application now in 80 ] columns, thanks! ] ] It's just a shame that the fonts in 80 columns mode ] suck too bad... :( If you are using fMSX-Unix, you should download the X-drivers from Arnold (see the fMSX section on The MSX Plaza for the correct link). With these drivers, you can double the size of the window, which makes the fonts much more readable in 80 columns mode. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
] At 07:19 13-7-00 -0700, you wrote: ] Does somebody know if MSX is really MicroSoft ] eXtended? I can't believe that... The MSX couldn't be ] designed by the same company that makes all this crap ] that has turned into a "software standard" today. (Not ] in my computer) ] ] Actually, the MicroSoft eXtended refers to the Basic, which is GW-Basic ] with some more things. I don't think so, as GW-Basic is for 80x86 (16-bit intel). I find it more likely that MSX-Basic is an extended version of MBasic (a BASIC that Microsoft developed for Z80). Hmmm, in that case, if the X really stood for extended, the BASIC should have been called MXBasic, to be in line with its history... I'm starting to believe Nishi ;-) Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
MailCrash!
Hello, I had a mailcrash today... Now I have lost some important e-mail addresses... Somebody from Spain contacted me for a game (Final Bout), hopefully he reads this messages and contacts me again at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, --[ MARI ]-- MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
--- Daniel Jorge Caetano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIIRGH! English is weird (sorry, but I talk using the brazilian-portuguese language since 1979!)... I like english because I can talk with people that doesn't know my own mother language (BrPt), but I think speak english in my own country, to talk with people that knows portuguese is just ridiculous. Yes, it is... Who did that? :) Nothing against english. I just think we have to keep our mother language alive. It's part of our culture. When doing "international" things, it's ok to use english (or any other "international" language). Exactly. I thought the INTERnet was INTERnational. :) And, if we would all talk the same language, it would be something like esperanto. I do not like "everyone" talking the language of another country. It sounds like some kind of "colonization" method. Well, it just "sounds" then, because the way you express thoughts have no influence on them. There is place for all languages in the world. It's not impossible to learn two languages. Exactly my point. Everybody should not at least two languages. And preferably one of them being english. Not because it's english, but because it's easy and accessible. Ok... smart guy... You have some "super natural" power to decide if something is not interesting even if you doesn't know nothing about it? Oh, how I wish such power! (-; And I wish I could determine what somebody else does know or doesn't. It would be wonderful for gambling. :) You are very, very, and I mean *very* wrong about the actual Brazilian MSX scene. Almost no one uses "Gradiente" or "Sharp" computers anymore! So... What was I talking about? And about standards, the problem was not on the hardware, but on software. And the problem was there due to lack of information. That's all. Besides, the character set of Expert 1.0 was wrong due to a "discussion" about the ABNT character set standard. They corrected the problem on Expert 1.1. Yes, I know about that. The difference between us, though, is that I've read the story to it's entirety. It will depends on where you want to go. There is no reason to make a homepage talking about "what street is more crowded in Sao Paulo", for car guidance, in english. I don't see how "car guidance" relates to technology, but that's another story. :) There is a better solution for each situation. Try to use the same solution on all situations is "weird" and out of question. This is the difference between someone that thinks and someone that doesn't. You probably know a lot about it. Think. Change the language of 160 milions people is just like to compile Windows NT to run under MSX! (run a bad solution in a limited computer) No one said it would be easy, nor done in a heartbeat. I just like you are VERY misinformed. BEFORE blame on me, and before call me names, just try to know what is happening on ACTUAL brazilian MSX scene. Why would I call you names? I don't even know you... Besides the fact that the "sti.com.br" domain is not unfamiliar to me. You probably contacted me or posted a message on my forum while I used to run the old www.msx.com.br website. I have a very good idea about what's happening in the brazilian MSX scene as well as the world MSX scene. I don't even know why I'm talking about this, as I haven't said one single word about the current MSX scene at all. Am I writing in the wrong language? Anyway, if you are not interested, just don't say that nothing is happening. Say "I'm not interested on it, because I just want to run some games on my fMSX... not BrMSX, because BrMSX is a brazilian emulator". I couldn't even compile fMSX and the only reason why I wouldn't run BrMSX is because I don't have the time to port it to UNIX. I've had to make my way with the MSX emulation present on MESS, that is kept by Sean Young. It still lacks disk support, but wasn't for this problem it's just cool. Finally, I would like to invite you to Jau' 2000. If you live in Sao Paulo I can even give you a ride. I'm sure you'll be welcome and also will be surprised about the things you'll see there. Thank you. Unfortunatelly time and money have always been a precious resource for me and I live too far from Sao Paulo. I live in RS. God knows how I wish to meet cool MSX people again. Hey, if I made it to a fair I could even participate! With the "Smell a real MSX like it was brand new!!" as my well-packed HotBit really smells like it was just purchased. :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to
Re: Why this discussion again!!
Hmmm.. I am going to get quite some angry remarks now probably... Anyway, Let's get it over with... I am going to interfere in this discussion only once, and that will be it. Because I don't want to cause any anger, or long discussions. It was always quite clear, untill that discussion a few months ago, that MSX stood for MicroSoft eXtended. Ever since Microsoft got into problems because of it's windows/ie integration everyone is thinking it's cool to kick MicroSoft's butt. And since that time, everyone is trying to deny the fact that MicroSoft is largely responsible for MSX (At least it's Basic initial DOS versions, probably more). ASCII MicroSoft worked together on everything (untill that dragon incident). I simply don't believe that story from Kazuhiko Nishi. Why after 17 years would this story emerge... It's a nice story, but I don't believe it. All the CEO's of these companies were involved and have talked with each other at some level. If this story was true, it would have come through. And that the X stood Yamaha, Philips, etc... Is simply illogical. As for the "NEW MSX" discussion. It's all very nice. But I now work at a company where we create new products like the X-BOX now for MicroSoft (uuh...), the Activity for Siemens, etc.. I know what kind of work, research and cost is involved in projects like this. Taking this in account, it's highly improbable that there is one firm interested in actually doing something like this. The thought is very nice, but not realistic. MSX only has a small user base these days. Even in Japan, this user base is close to non-existing. Just read the e-mails send by Manuel the last few days. MSX was/is a very cool system, because is was highly user friendly and has some fantastic games. Let's enjoy what we have and keep playing with it... This is just my opinion. Please accept the fact that it will probably be completely different then yours. But let it be mine, and respect that. I will respect yours... Best Regards! Arnaud -- Visit the MEP, Over 2600 Games online: MAIN: http://www.file-hunter.com/ MIRROR: http://www.mepmirror.cjb.net/ FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
Because you would have to rewrite the kernel almost completely. Memory management, scheduling, etc. It would be a completely different kernel, so it wouldn't be Linux. Linux is not just a kernel. To be sincere, the kernel is the least important part of the OS. It just makes the communication between software and hardware. What makes Linux so special are the GNU tools made for it (actually for their own flavor of free UNIX clone). Oh, and there ISN'T a port of Linux for the 286. The fact that it's still in development level doesn't make it inexistent. UZIX is in development level, though it exists. :) Linux is ALWAYS in development level and it exists! Windows is aslways, though slowly, in development level and it unfortunatelly exists. :) = __ Ðiogo Sperb Schneider - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "When I say Van Halen I mean David Lee Roth!!" @ http://www.geocities.com/enthusiast78 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
Hmmm, in that case, if the X really stood for extended, the BASIC should have been called MXBasic, to be in line with its history... I'm starting to believe Nishi ;-) Wasn't the ordinary explanation 'A computer system extended with Microsoft Basic' Because the basic was in the ROM, etc. etc. yada-yada Yours etc. Sander MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: About the new MSX: what do users think?
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, "Ðiogo" Sperb Schneider wrote: Because you would have to rewrite the kernel almost completely. Memory management, scheduling, etc. It would be a completely different kernel, so it wouldn't be Linux. Linux is not just a kernel. To be sincere, the kernel is the least important part of the OS. It just makes the communication between software and hardware. What makes Linux so special are the GNU tools made for it (actually for their own flavor of free UNIX clone). Making an MSX port of Linux would only make sense if Linux programs would compile on Linux-MSX without thorough modification. I doubt that is possible. The 64K address space of the Z80 is a real pain. Ofcourse it is possible in theory, but it would be like a virtual machine running on the Z80 to emulate the features the Z80 lacks in hardware. Speed would be horrible. I think porting Unix programs to UZIX is a much easier approach. As part of the porting process, functionality that is not needed can be thrown out, so that a lightweight version emerges that can run on MSX at a practical speed and memory usage. The "Linux for 8086" project (ELKS?) is not really a Linux, it's a subset of Linux. We could make a Linux subset for MSX, but why bother, UZIX is already there and it's making great progress. Bye, Maarten MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, "Ðiogo" Sperb Schneider wrote: I couldn't even compile fMSX and the only reason why I wouldn't run BrMSX is because I don't have the time to port it to UNIX. I've had to make my way with the MSX emulation present on MESS, that is kept by Sean Young. It still lacks disk support, but wasn't for this problem it's just cool. What problem did you have compiling fMSX for Linux? I have it running under Linux with no problems. Bye, Maarten MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
TFH wrote: Most PC says: "Starting Microsoft Windows" on the boot, but PC was designed by IBM. One thing has nothing to do with another. That's because of the installed O.S. What I was talking about in the the ROM of ALL MSX-es... Anyway... You just think and say what you want. I don't know why everbody now wants to deny that MSX was (partitialy) made/created/designed by Microsoft. It's a simpe fact Ofcourse MSX was designed by Microsoft. Microsoft FAR EAST to be exact! And MSX-BASIC and MSX-DOS, the part that says (c) Microsoft is ofcourse only an OS also. So can we all agree on the following and DROP this discussion: - MSX hardware was created by Kay Nishi (of ASCII and also Microsoft Far East at the time). - MSX BIOS, operating system and BASIC were created by Microsoft. Nishi obviously has -why would he lie-, during negotiations with all participating companies, thought up several different meanings for the MSX abbreviation. Which in fact was very clever business strategy. This way all parties could feel THEY had a big part in creating MSX. Heh, even Microsoft didn't design all of MSX OS. It's a fact that Nishi himself created the HOOK-system we all know and love. Finally, I'd like to qoute Anne de Raad: I just want to say that in Japan there is more MSX-activity then there has been the last 10 years...I know, maybe it's all idealistic amateur, but it is a FACT there is very much going on..We as Europeans should get MORE involved in the MSX-scene in JapanDon't know how, but we should.It is TOO interestingreally! You couldn't be more right, Anne! Patriek MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Brazilian MSX Scene...
Ðiogo Sperb Schneider gravada: cartridge (crowd chants). Not even a disk interface I have. So you must agree that it has been very complicated to stay up to date. Do you wanna buy a Interface ? I have LOTS... I was planning on upgrading that machine with some new stuff, like a RS-232 interface to connect it to my Linux box, etc... Ademir Carchano has some RS-232 to sell. But I've decided that any investment towards the MSX would be done through a new system, prefferably a Sony MSX 2 or something of such degree. Do you know Expert 2+ with Turbo(7 MHz)/ FM / Mapper (4Mb) and Internal Slot Expander (4 slots) ? Hey, accessing the Internet through an MSX, specially if running a UNIX-like OS is my dream, man!! :) I'll try to stay tunned, I promise. What ? So don't you know UZIX with TCP/IP stack running in any MSX2 with 256 Kb of mapper ? Don't you know Fudebrowser ? Is it cold there in Mars ? :-D []s Werner MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
Ðiogo Sperb Schneider gravada: Thank you. Unfortunatelly time and money have always been a precious resource for me and I live too far from Sao Paulo. I live in RS. God knows how I wish to meet cool MSX people again. Really ? Just wait for a while... In the last year we had one Gaucho user at the MSX JAU' 99 fair. In this year we expect to have a group of them... www.msxjau99.cjb.net Hey, if I made it to a fair I could even participate! With the "Smell a real MSX like it was brand new!!" as my well-packed HotBit really smells like it was just purchased. :) bad, bad... It may means also 'never used'... Come to MSX JAU' 2000 Meeting. It's simply the best and the major MSX Meeting of the South Hemisphere, with the duration of 4 days (non-stop) ! Bus tickets are not so expensive as you think. []s Werner MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: Microsoft SuX
If I am correct, the MSX Basic Start Up Screen already mentions (c) 198x by Microsoft You can claim that the copyrights are with MicroSoft, but in fact they really only did the basic development. The Standard itself is created by ASCII. Also MSX-BASIC 3.x and higher are copyrighted by ASCII, just as is MSX-DOS 2.x. Really, MicroSoft did nothing but making the basic adaptions: Of course. MSX BASIC interpreter is from Microsoft. In 8080 code. :) [just check some Z80 baad written pieces of code in BASIC ROM...] So, someone should optimize it and make a new BIOS/BASIC that is 2 times as fast and still fully compatible. THAT would be fun! I also read about these problems In The MSX Red Book. INdeed, it is not really optimized and has some hacks... (if I can believe this book!) The fact that MSX was not succesful in the USA is not strange because of MS is located in the USA. As I said, MS only did the BASIC, ASCII was the marketing corporation. And they did a bad job in marketing in the USA, where already a lot of other computers became very popular. In Japan, ASCII's home country, MSX was in fact quite popular, like in The Netherlands. The latter is probably caused by the involvement of Philips. Anway. That is my view, I hope it is correct. And, if Mr. Nishi says MSX means Matsushita Sony X machine, I believe that. Hail Mr. Nishi! ;-) Best regards, Manuel --- PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Werner Kai's e-mails...
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Re: Brazilian MSX Maling list (In Portuguese)
Maybe. The problem about brazilian MSX computers and their developers is that they tried to get away from the MSX standards. The Expert has it's character table Jesus Rice, this is not true! Character tables aren't part of MSX standard, as you can see in any Japanese MSX ROM. Some games, like Payload, even use extended characters which don't look the same in every MSX. You can find 10 different character tables in different MSX models and this doesn't mean they're incompatible. They ARE standard. Please check the MSX Technical Handbook. For every defined country-code it has a specific standard character set (in ROM). This is indeed changeable, but it is in the MSX standard. Theoretically, any machine following MSX standards should behave the same way, software-wise. Entry points should be the same, supported Basic state- ments should be the same, hooks should be in the same place, etc. Of course. This should be really the case, also practically. It is the idea of a standard like MSX... Best regards, Manuel --- PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
RE: Konami's Shalom (Knightmare 3)
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Re: Why this discussion again!!
I simply don't believe that story from Kazuhiko Nishi. Why after 17 years would this story emerge... It's a nice story, but I don't believe it. The story was published in a serious Japanese business magazine in 1997 (so it's not after 17 years) and besides, what could Nishi probably aim at by making up such a story? The fact as I see it is, that the Japanese just have their own meaning for the 'MSX' abbreviation. The occidental one is MicroSoft blahblah and the Japanese one is Matsushita etc. Rieks. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Something that struck me in Japan
Hey ho, fellow MSX users, In this mail I want to give an example of the differences between Japan and Europe, considering computers/game consoles. A couple of days ago, I came across a computer game store, here in the village of Moriya. I saw a PS2 flag, so, curious as I am, I wanted to check out this PS2, before anyone else in Europe... ;-) I entered the shop and saw thousands of gamecartridges and a demo-PS2. Nice design machine, but the game running on it was not really interesting (some kind of VJ-game (which reminds me of a Konami arcade game here called Remix (or something) in which you can play DJ; the arcade machine has 2 turntables!) all in Japanese). So I looked around in the shop. Also I saw a demo of Final Fantasy IX for PS. Great looking! Further, I saw PSone. This is a compact edition of a Playstation in a jolly colour (white and pink, IIRC). On tv there is a commercial for this in which a girl sews a nice backpack for her PSone and then you see here going to a friend (also with a PSone on her back) and go play together with one of the PSones. Funny. Price was about 15000 Yen (cheaper than the second hand MSXturboR ST I saw in Akihabara!). Then I saw a pile of used games. A LOT of Super Famicon (SNES) games and also quite some Famicon (NES) games. Also Gameboy of course and even some Neo Geo stuff. (All from wellknown softwarehouses, like Hudson Soft, ASCII, Konami, you know them!) BUT THEN! I saw in one of the racks some Famicon and Super Famicon systems for sale! NEW! Not the old ones; they had a new casing and a small, cheap box. So, IN JAPAN THE NES IS STILL SOLD! Looking at the large number of used NES games for sale, I'd say - although it is a terribly obsolete machine (sounds familiar?) - it is still somewhat popular in Japan. The Super Famicon is more popular though. So, also still new ones of that one available, but a HUGE amount of new and second hand games could be bought in this game shop. Also controllers and other stuff (like some joysticks made by ASCII). So, if ASCII plays it smart with this new MSX, it might even be succesful! Maybe this is hard to comprehend for European MSX users, but in Japan indeed the attitude is different. By the way, even my 41-year old boss was in a computer shop in the middle of the night when the PS2 was first released... :-) He bought it mainly for the DVD player though, as do many Japanese, I have the feeling. It is still very expensive though, 4 Yen IIRC. In this particular shop it was easy to get though (some people here complained it was sold out everywhere!), they had at least 10 PS2 machines there. Anyway, this e-mail may change your point of view regarding the Japanese view on obsolete computers. (Although I don't understand it myself, since some guys here said Japanese only like the newest technology but it is a fact that there are still NEW NES systems sold...!) About the number of MSX users in Japan: I think the percentage is the same as in the Netherlands, but then consider the fact that Japan has 125 million people Best regards, Manuel --- PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
The new MSX
Ok... I've been thinking about this for some time... I have just made a home page for this "new msx". - In fact it's just a message board, where anyone will be able to post an opinion about this new msx. So, if anyone can, just put your thoughts there, and if possible, someone with contact with the japanese ppl just send them this URL, so they will not have any trouble (besides reading in english) to know what the users expect from this new machine. This way I hope to contribute a little more with the MSX scene Btw: before I forget, the url is: www.newmsx.cjb.net (heh, easy hum?) SLotman MSXFiles ( http://www.msxfiles.cjb.net ) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
RE: Something that struck me in Japan
: -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: 14 July 2000 05:05 : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Something that struck me in Japan : So, if ASCII plays it smart with this new MSX, it might even be : succesful! : Maybe this is hard to comprehend for European MSX users, but in : Japan indeed : the attitude is different. : Of course, *if* ASCII really wants a new MSX, it will probably be a big hit in japan, japanese people I worked with and am related to are kinda gadget fan (no offence), and since japan is _the_ country for cool electronics (next to korea), I would not be surprised. But it won't become a big hit elsewhere, I think. then again, lots of EU ppl will want one! (count me in!) :) M MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
