Re: [MSX] MSX blue
On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Patriek Lesparre wrote: Eric Boon wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Patriek Lesparre *DID NOT WRITE*: Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: I suggest to contact Sandy Pleyte (of www.generation-msx.nl), to add this to Generation MSX. It shouldn't be that much work and part of it is already implemented even. Because a single point of success is better than choice and differentiation? Yes. :-P So you still provide the snappy comebacks Quibus is incapable of in his place... Oh, I'm quite sure that Manuel is very capable of those same snappy comments. It's just that he's smarter than me and doesnt' want to feed the trolls. Now, as for an on topic comment. I really don't see the harm in someone suggesting that two other someones, who share an interest, contact each other in order see if they can combine their efforts. If you do, then I suggest you learn about communities, co-operation, synergy and putting things in perspective. Forgetting about conspiracies and witch hunts wouldn't hurt either... Ah well, nuf said. Cheers, Eric ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] MSX blue
Eric Boon wrote: I really don't see the harm in someone suggesting that two other someones, who share an interest, contact each other in order see if they can combine their efforts. That's not what happened here... First of all it's not an isolated incident. It's always the same people doing the 'suggestions' and always the same (two) sites that would 'benefit'. Second, this is a hobby, and people like to (re)invent their OWN wheels. Expecting someone to give up the part that makes it fun (in this case, actually coding the site), by suggesting to add the idea to an already existing site, is a big mistake in a community. If you do, then I suggest you learn about communities, co-operation, synergy and putting things in perspective. If you actually read about those topics, I suggest you reread because I think you misunderstood some of it. Like, you seem to have 'community' and 'communism' mixed up. Forgetting about conspiracies and witch hunts wouldn't hurt either... How can one forget that which continues daily? For my own good I probably shouldn't have said anything, but I refuse to stay quiet when the usual suspects yet again try to take away someone's fun and ambition like this. In a software project, nobody typically suggests an author for say a new music editor, to contact another editor's author in order to 'synergise' their ideas. This is why we have multitude of music editors on MSX, which is a good thing. So what's different for a website? It's just another piece of software! Patriek ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
[MSX] Nemesis review
A first review has made its apperance on MSX blue ! It concerns a reference game in the MSX universe : Nemesis, published by Konami in 1986. The beginning of a long saga of shoot'em ups !!! http://www.msxblue.com/?page_id=158 French version : http://www.msxblue.com/?page_id=108 ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] Nemesis review
Nice! I’ve added your site to the ‘Planet MSX pipe’ on Yahoo. http://pipes.yahoo.com/grauw/planetmsx Lemme plug this a little… If you want a nice RSS feed that aggregates MSX news from various sources, give it a try :). And if anyone else has or knows of an MSX-related website or blog with an RSS feed that is not included yet, let me know and I’ll add it. p.s. Wrt the previous discussion, the web is built on links and distribution of concerns. So even when you are not on the same domain, you can still cooperate and add value by linking to eachother. Best of both worlds! :) I also wish there were more MSX blogs, so if you want to start one you have my encouragement! ~Laurens Op 24-9-2009 13:32, Benoît Delvaux schreef: A first review has made its apperance on MSX blue ! It concerns a reference game in the MSX universe : Nemesis, published by Konami in 1986. The beginning of a long saga of shoot'em ups !!! http://www.msxblue.com/?page_id=158 French version : http://www.msxblue.com/?page_id=108 ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx -- ~~ Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ~~ Laurens Holst, developer, Utrecht, the Netherlands Website: www.grauw.nl. Backbase employee; www.backbase.com ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] Nemesis review
Thanks for the addition ! Indeed, this tool is impressive and very useful for the MSX community. I've just added it to my links section ! Benoît - Original Message - From: Laurens Holst laurens.nos...@grauw.nl To: msx@stack.nl Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MSX] Nemesis review Nice! I’ve added your site to the ‘Planet MSX pipe’ on Yahoo. http://pipes.yahoo.com/grauw/planetmsx Lemme plug this a little… If you want a nice RSS feed that aggregates MSX news from various sources, give it a try :). And if anyone else has or knows of an MSX-related website or blog with an RSS feed that is not included yet, let me know and I’ll add it. p.s. Wrt the previous discussion, the web is built on links and distribution of concerns. So even when you are not on the same domain, you can still cooperate and add value by linking to eachother. Best of both worlds! :) I also wish there were more MSX blogs, so if you want to start one you have my encouragement! ~Laurens Op 24-9-2009 13:32, Benoît Delvaux schreef: A first review has made its apperance on MSX blue ! It concerns a reference game in the MSX universe : Nemesis, published by Konami in 1986. The beginning of a long saga of shoot'em ups !!! http://www.msxblue.com/?page_id=158 French version : http://www.msxblue.com/?page_id=108 ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx -- ~~ Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ~~ Laurens Holst, developer, Utrecht, the Netherlands Website: www.grauw.nl. Backbase employee; www.backbase.com ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] MSX blue
On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Patriek Lesparre wrote: Eric Boon wrote: I really don't see the harm in someone suggesting that two other someones, who share an interest, contact each other in order see if they can combine their efforts. That's not what happened here... It is. Really. Or if you want to be *really* nitpicky, the suggestion was that one of the two contacts the otherone instead of both contacting each other. First of all it's not an isolated incident. It's always the same people doing the 'suggestions' That's because the MSX community is a relativey small group and some people are more outspoken than others. Just like it's always the same people who start the same rants over and over again. Second, this is a hobby, and people like to (re)invent their OWN wheels. True, nothing wrong with that and I'm in no way saying that people shouldn't be allowed to do so. Expecting someone to give up the part that makes it fun Please point me to the part in Manuel's mail in which he expects Akop to give up his idea. Show me the 'cease and desist' clause. In a software project, nobody typically suggests an author for say a new music editor, to contact another editor's author in order to 'synergise' their ideas. This is why we have multitude of music editors on MSX, which is a good thing. Most of the MSX musiceditors were written in the '90s when the community was a lot bigger and the possibilities of co-operation a lot less. But even back then people who had similar ideas teamed up to form software- or demogroups. Grz, Eric ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] MSX blue
Eric Boon wrote: ... a lot of wriggling. It's a shame this really small community you speak of has tunnelvision and does not see the rest of the MSX world. It's also a shame that the community (often called the Msx Related Community) you belong to shares your belief that it's a good idea if everybody does exactly the same thing. Your perverted definition of co-operation (i.e. assimilation) is in fact holding everybody back and kills progress and innovation. That you perceive 'the community' to be small has little to do with the actual amount of people using and developing the MSX computer system, and more to do with your community's closed-mindedness and small-mindedness. Not that I expect any of you to see the light any time soon, and certainly not when it's the goddamn anti-christ of your community's religion that is holding you up a mirror, but really do yourself a favor and at least take a somewhat critical look at that innocent suggestion Patriek ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] MSX blue
What about ending this pointless argument about...right now!? If you wish, continue PRIVATELY. I'm not interested in it, REALLY, I'm not! Regards, JVW. El 24/09/2009 19:20, Patriek Lesparre escribió: Eric Boon wrote: ... a lot of wriggling. It's a shame this really small community you speak of has tunnelvision and does not see the rest of the MSX world. It's also a shame that the community (often called the Msx Related Community) you belong to shares your belief that it's a good idea if everybody does exactly the same thing. Your perverted definition of co-operation (i.e. assimilation) is in fact holding everybody back and kills progress and innovation. That you perceive 'the community' to be small has little to do with the actual amount of people using and developing the MSX computer system, and more to do with your community's closed-mindedness and small-mindedness. Not that I expect any of you to see the light any time soon, and certainly not when it's the goddamn anti-christ of your community's religion that is holding you up a mirror, but really do yourself a favor and at least take a somewhat critical look at that innocent suggestion Patriek ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 4455 (20090924) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com ___ MSX mailing list (msx@stack.nl) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
