Re: Still alive?
Am 15.05.2000 um 12:02:54 schrieb Steffan Hoeke: EZMLM (http://www.ezmlm.org/) warns users for which messages bounce and eventually removes them from the subscriber list ... So, at least you get a warning (though not on a secondary address) but you'll get the warnings / bounce messages evenually This's true, but it has a negative side effect as well. If your mail server is unavailable for some reason, your message bounces. In this case ezmlm will warn you to be removed from the list even if it is only one message that bounced. I get those warnings regularly from the ezmlm that manages the German SuSE Linux Mailinglist. Gets annoying with the time. Amusingly, there has recently been a thread on that list with complains about that behaviour. Some people seem to get warnings about bounced messages that are a few weeks old. (Mainly GMX users... :- ) If ezmlm is used there should be a remark about this behaviour in the welcome message to prevent such senseless treads. And to stop people from subscribing again in case they don't understand that message. Regards, Dennis -- Dennis Stosberg ICQ: 63537718 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-key on request PGP signature
Re: Remote IMAP folder browsing
On Wednesday, 17 May 2000 at 14:10, Shao Zhang wrote:
Hi,
sorry to jump in here. But how do you actually browse all the
IMAP folders on the remote server?
The way I am doing now is to put every single folder under the
mailbox command.
I have tried to use 'c' change-folder, and then put the imap
servername {127.0.0.1} there, but then nothing comes up in the
browser. The bottom status line says something like
{127.0.0.1}INBOX.
What am I doing wrong?
The magic comes in the tab key. Set your folder to {127.0.0.1}, then
press ctab and see what happens. you should get your folder list
(assuming you are using mutt 1.1 or later).
-Brendan
Re: Still alive?
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:03:20AM +0200, Dennis Stosberg muttered: Am 15.05.2000 um 12:02:54 schrieb Steffan Hoeke: EZMLM (http://www.ezmlm.org/) warns users for which messages bounce and eventually removes them from the subscriber list ... So, at least you get a warning (though not on a secondary address) but you'll get the warnings / bounce messages evenually [snipped: bounce warnings are (irritatingly) unclear] If ezmlm is used there should be a remark about this behaviour in the welcome message to prevent such senseless treads. And to stop people from subscribing again in case they don't understand that message. That's strange, as per http://www.uk.ezmlm.org/faq-0.32/FAQ4.html#ss4.2: "In addition, ezmlm has a number of new inventions. One of these is bounce detection, which generates an automatic warning containing information identifying the messages which have bounced, followed by a probe message to the E-Mail addresses for which mail has bounced. If the probe bounces, the address is unsubscribed. Thus, the system won't remove E-mail addresses due to *temporary* bouces: it takes 12 days after the first bounce before a warning is sent, and another 12 days of bounces after the warning bounce before the probe message is sent." The contents of the message that's sent upon bounce is completely customizable, you should ask the Mailing List owner/maintainer to add such a remark to the bounce warning message Problem solved ? Regards, Dennis HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Multiple IMAP Servers
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:53:43PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
Kristin --
Chris Green is probably your user-level guy for mutt and IMAP; he's been
putting it through its paces.
Well I can't keep quiet in that case can I? :-)
The best answer that I've seen to the "multiple personality" problem is
to create a master muttrc that sets your basic defaults and then create
little muttrc files that set persona-specific settings. You can make a
couple of simple macros to call these guys.
Yes, that's probably the easiest way to do that, it doesn't
necessarily address the need to browse a mixture of different IMAP
servers and local folders though. (See bottom of this message)
I can't think of how you could browse all three IMAP servers at the same
time with the 'c'hange-folder command; the best I can think of is the
persona files above and browsing any single IMAP server based on who you
are at the moment.
Well you could if you were prepared to type in the full IMAP folder
name/address each time but that would get a bit tedious.
What I have done is define a couple of macros that implement special
change-folder and save-message commands which start the browser at the
'root' of the particular hierarchy I want to browse. The ordinary 'c'
command will browse from wherever you left off so you only need the
special commands when you want to move from one IMAP server to another
(or back to your local files).
I have currently used macros which are ',' plus a letter for my new
change-folder macros as ',' is unshifted and easy to reach but of
course any spare key can be used.
The basic 'go and browse an IMAP folder' macro is:-
macro index ,c "c?c^U{x-1.net}INBOX^M"
I'm not sure how you need to enter the ^U and ^M, I have entered real
control characters in my muttrc which works OK, there are other ways
of entering them in a muttrc file too.
To get the browser back to the 'top' of my local mail hierarchy I
have:-
macro index \\c "c?c^U/home/chris/Mail^M"
These macros only allow you to 'change-folder' to and from an IMAP
server, if you want to get into the browser from other commands when
referring to the IMAP server then you need to add more macros, for
example I have:-
macro index ,s "s?c^U{x-1.net}INBOX.^M"
which allows me to enter the browser to save a message to the remote
IMAP server. You could also add a similar macro for the copy-message
command.
Finally, if you want to switch personalities completely you need to
set a few mutt variables, I have a short file as follows which I can
source if I want to 'become' my remote IMAP personality:-
source ~/.mutt/muttrc
my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
set folder={x-1.net:50143}
set imap_user=cgreen
set imap_pass=PASSWORD
set record={x-1.net:50143}outbox
set spoolfile={x-1.net:50143}inbox
I invoke this with:-
mutt -F /home/chris/.mutt/x-1
which is why the first line gets all my basic mutt settings from my
main muttrc file. One could of course just source the above file from
within mutt to change personalities. This *doesn't* affect where the
browser is rooted though, so if you change personality 'on the fly'
and then use the browser it will be pointing at your 'old' personality
unless you use one of my macros above.
Hope this helps some, feel free to E-Mail me directly for more
clarification etc.
--
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Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Remote IMAP folder browsing
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:10:18PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote:
Brendan Cully [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 May 2000 at 12:56, Dave (Grizz) Glaser wrote:
When trying to browse the folders on my IMAP server I get the error:
Folder browsing is not currently implemented.
Does this mean there there is no functionality for it, or I just didn't compile
it into the program?
Hi,
sorry to jump in here. But how do you actually browse all the
IMAP folders on the remote server?
The way I am doing now is to put every single folder under the
mailbox command.
I have tried to use 'c' change-folder, and then put the imap
servername {127.0.0.1} there, but then nothing comes up in the
browser. The bottom status line says something like
{127.0.0.1}INBOX.
That's because the 'c' command *opens* the folder. Since the IMAP
server '{127.0.0.1}INBOX.' can contain mail as well as other folders
mutt just opens the folder - with no mail in your case.
One (rather convoluted) way to get there is to issue the following
sequence of commands:-
c change-folder
? goes into browser
c change-dir
^U deletes the default you're given
{127.0.0.1}INBOXthe IMAP *directory* to open
There is also some way of getting there using TAB in response to the
change-folder prompt but the above route is more universal in my
experience. I have defined macros to perform the above sequence (see
my earlier message today).
--
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WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Doing netnews with mutt
Bennett Todd (Tue 16.0500-17:23): Ok, I've gotten so hooked on mutt that I'm wanting to use it for netnews. did you have a look at leafnode? it's a small nntp-handler without newsreader. i'm thinking about adapting mutt towards using leafnode to swatt that fly... -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: bounce
Reed -- ...and then Reed Lai said... % On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 12:11:27AM -0400, David T-G wrote: % ...and then Reed Lai said... % % % % May I change From: field before bounce message? % % Sounds like you want the new resend-message command, which lets you % % I do this because I bounce messages to other peoples, but they % always confused who sent them those mails... and I don't know how % to forward with attached items (however, forward has more actions % than bounce...) I know that it can be done, but I haven't played with selective attachment forwarding. To just shoot the whole thing, I like setting $mime_fwd and then forwarding the message; it's one big attachment, and most MIME-aware mailers (which your friends are probably using, since you want to "forward with attached items") know how to see that attachment as an RFC822 message and read it, with its own attachments. % % -- % Reed Lai http://w3.icpdas.com/reed/ | ICPDAS http://www.icpdas.com % GnuPG (DSA/ElGamal) 0x7199EAD3 Reed Lai (key #1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] % KeyServer: search.keyserver.net | HAM: BV4QO | NIC-handle: RL7000 % ICQ 64518529 HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: bounce
On 2000-05-17 13:14:43 +0800, Reed Lai wrote: I do this because I bounce messages to other peoples, but they always confused who sent them those mails... and I don't know how to forward with attached items (however, forward has more actions than bounce...) The $mime_forward quad-option may be what you are looking for. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: bounce
On 2000-05-17 05:35:19 -0400, David T-G wrote: I know that it can be done, but I haven't played with selective attachment forwarding. Just go to the recvattach menu, tag the attachments in question, and apply-forward. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: DSN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: How could I do to make mutt use this field : Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I have read his mail ? The sample.muttrc file has this :) Anyway, here it is - set dsn_notify='failure,delay' # when to return an error message set dsn_return=hdrs# what to return in the error message You can add 'success' to failure and delay (that is one of the options in DSN). That should work, IIRC. hth -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more. -- Woody Allen
Re: DSN
Thanks, same question but with this field (from a netscape's user) Disposition-Notification-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] how could mutt notify this user that I've read his mail (not that the mail has been delivered by his mail server) Antoine On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 04:09:20PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: How could I do to make mutt use this field : Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I have read his mail ? The sample.muttrc file has this :) Anyway, here it is - set dsn_notify='failure,delay' # when to return an error message set dsn_return=hdrs# what to return in the error message You can add 'success' to failure and delay (that is one of the options in DSN). That should work, IIRC. hth -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more. -- Woody Allen
Re: DSN
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 04:09:20PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian muttered: [EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: How could I do to make mutt use this field : Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I have read his mail ? The sample.muttrc file has this :) Anyway, here it is - set dsn_notify='failure,delay' # when to return an error message set dsn_return=hdrs# what to return in the error message You can add 'success' to failure and delay (that is one of the options in DSN). That should work, IIRC. Also note that it *should only* be used if using sendmail 8.8.x or greater as per the instructions in the default Muttrc HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Remote IMAP folder browsing
I do it with this line in my muttrc:
set folder={imap.server.blah}Mail
I do not have any local folders, well, they are all local to my home directory, but I
access them through the imap server.
Dave
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Shao Zhang wrote:
Brendan Cully [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 May 2000 at 12:56, Dave (Grizz) Glaser wrote:
When trying to browse the folders on my IMAP server I get the error:
Folder browsing is not currently implemented.
Does this mean there there is no functionality for it, or I just didn't compile
it into the program?
Hi,
sorry to jump in here. But how do you actually browse all the
IMAP folders on the remote server?
The way I am doing now is to put every single folder under the
mailbox command.
I have tried to use 'c' change-folder, and then put the imap
servername {127.0.0.1} there, but then nothing comes up in the
browser. The bottom status line says something like
{127.0.0.1}INBOX.
What am I doing wrong?
Regards,
Shao.
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Re: DSN
Frank Derichsweiler proclaimed on mutt-users that: same question but with this field (from a netscape's user) Disposition-Notification-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] how could mutt notify this user that I've read his mail (not that the mail has been delivered by his mail server) my_hdr Disposition-Notification-To: foo@bar I am sorry - this is a solution when _you_ want to ask for a return receipt (and even then, this must be enabled selectively, it will be a royal PITA if you get DSNs for every mail you send). The original poster was asking how _he_ can send back a "Read Receipt" receipt to the user. Delivery receipt is automatically sent back if the receiving MTA is DSN aware. Actually, what you can do is to write a procmail rule to send back a "your message has been read by me at $date" when you find these headers Disposition-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: X-Confirm-Reading-To: (generated by Pegasus Mail) The standard autoresponder template in man procmailex should do for this hth -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com However, never daunted, I will cope with adversity in my traditional manner ... sulking and nausea. -- Tom K. Ryan
Archiving mail by date
I'm pretty sure this has been asked before, so sorry for asking again. Can anyone point me at any tools for extracting mail by date (e.g. all mail for a given year) from a mailbox folder hierarchy and saving it in a similar hierarchy under another directory ready for compression, backup, whatever? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Archiving mail by date
Chris Green proclaimed on mutt-users that: Can anyone point me at any tools for extracting mail by date (e.g. all mail for a given year) from a mailbox folder hierarchy and saving it in a similar hierarchy under another directory ready for compression, backup, whatever? cat, grep, sed and awk are your friends :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Things will be bright in P.M. A cop will shine a light in your face.
Re: Archiving mail by date
Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 17 May 2000: Can anyone point me at any tools for extracting mail by date (e.g. all mail for a given year) from a mailbox folder hierarchy and saving it in a similar hierarchy under another directory ready for compression, backup, whatever? Shell scripts + Mutt? Should be doable, even easily, just might take a little work to get perfected. The only catch is the situation in which a folder doesn't contain any emails matching the given tag-pattern, but if you know you don't have to worry about that, then you should be all set. :-) Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Cheap, Fast, Good -- pick any two. You can't have all three.
Re: Newbie to Mutt: How can I get Menus with buttons
Bob Waskosky [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 09:55:51AM +0800, wrote: Hi All, Can anybody tell me how I can get the nice menu buttons on the top and text menus at the bottom as seen on the screen shot at URL. http://www.mutt.org//screenshots/browser.gif I was only able to get a text menu on top of the screen. Thanks for your help.I have compiled 2 versions with Slang and ncurses-5.0 (without c++), but both of them are the same. Any help ? Thanks. Regards -- Law Syn Pui Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A subsidary of Hewlett Packard Company) Look for a file called Eterm.menu - mine was at /usr/X11R6/share/Eterm/themes/Eterm. You may also find a mutt theme already there. The *.menu file is the one Eterm reads for its menu bar. Eterm must be called using the theme name ie: Eterm -t mutt -e mutt -f ~/Maildir I made a directory ~/.Eterm/themes/e-mail and copied Eterm.menu to that directory then modified it to suit my needs. What if you don't have that "Eterm.menu" file on your system? I'm on a RedHat 6.1 Linux system - should Eterm.menu be there? Or is there another package that I need? Thanks. -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
Re: DSN
On 2000-05-17 12:58:09 +0200, Antoine Martin wrote: same question but with this field (from a netscape's user) Disposition-Notification-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] how could mutt notify this user that I've read his mail (not that the mail has been delivered by his mail server) Well, the easiest thing to do would actually to reply to this message, don't you think? -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: Archiving mail by date
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:32:36PM +0300, Mikko H?nninen wrote: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 17 May 2000: Can anyone point me at any tools for extracting mail by date (e.g. all mail for a given year) from a mailbox folder hierarchy and saving it in a similar hierarchy under another directory ready for compression, backup, whatever? Shell scripts + Mutt? Should be doable, even easily, just might take a little work to get perfected. The only catch is the situation in which a folder doesn't contain any emails matching the given tag-pattern, but if you know you don't have to worry about that, then you should be all set. :-) and Suresh said: cat, grep, sed and awk are your friends :) I get the message - it's a "do it myself" job then! :-) -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: DSN
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:45:04PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-05-17 12:58:09 +0200, Antoine Martin wrote: same question but with this field (from a netscape's user) Disposition-Notification-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] how could mutt notify this user that I've read his mail (not that the mail has been delivered by his mail server) Well, the easiest thing to do would actually to reply to this message, don't you think? -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/ Yes of course, but I'm to lame :)
Re: Archiving mail by date
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:41:44PM +0200, Antoine Martin wrote: try grepmail : http://grepmail.sourceforge.net That does quite a bit of what I want, thanks! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: DSN
Thomas Roessler proclaimed on mutt-users that: Well, the easiest thing to do would actually to reply to this message, don't you think? Yep, That will tell the guy I've read his mail all right :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com For some reason, this fortune reminds everyone of Marvin Zelkowitz.
Re: Folder Hooks
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 07:58:38AM +0200, Frank Derichsweiler muttered: - On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:57:00PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: - OK: I have some send hooks working. When I try to do analogous things with - folder hooks, those fail. For example: - - folder-hook =wyo_lp 'set signature=~/.signatures/conan_the_anarchist.txt' - folder-hook =wyo_lp 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' - - does not seem to work, where - - I am testing by going into the appropriate folder, then starting a new - email with "m". - - Some ideas: - * Do you have some other folder-hooks in your muttrc? IMHO *all* - matching ones are executed. E.g. a folder-hook . unmy_hdr reply-to - later in the muttrc will abandon your Reply-to-address. - *Is the = directory properly set at that time? (muttrc is read from - top to bottom...) - * Try removing the '' ticks in the 2nd one. - - HTH - Frank Thanks, Frank, but no joy on any of these. I even commented out my "folder-hook . ..." defaults, which are above the ondes I showed above. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: Folder Hooks
Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that: - * Do you have some other folder-hooks in your muttrc? IMHO *all* - matching ones are executed. E.g. a folder-hook . unmy_hdr reply-to - later in the muttrc will abandon your Reply-to-address. One (perhaps stupid) question - have you _defined_ mailboxes first, before applying folder hooks? Try something like ... subscribe linux subscribe spam-l subscribe mutt # Set options for the various mailing lists I'm on # The mailboxes that I should check mailboxes $MAIL =spam-l =linux =mutt =juno-post save-hook '~f spam-l' =spam-l save-hook '~f linux-india' =linux save-hook '~f mutt-' =mutt # Sort our mailboxes by date set sort_browser=date folder-hook spam-l 'set attribution="Talking to spam-l, thus spake %n: "' folder-hook linux 'set attribution="%n spewed into the LI bitstream: "' folder-hook mutt 'set attribution="%n proclaimed to mutt-users that: "' and then add your folder-hook . 'blah blah' As you can see from the attribution below, it works for me :) hth -s -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Economists can certainly disappoint you. One said that the economy would turn up by the last quarter. Well, I'm down to mine and it hasn't. -- Robert Orben
My archiving mail by date script
I have something similiar to what you want, though you'll have to hack it up a bit to allow for gzipped dirs and such. I have a "d" key macro: macro index d s=archiveenter this saves all mesasges to my archive folder instead of deleting them. Then I have a shell script: #!/bin/sh set $(date) date=$2-$3-$6 dir=archive-$date cd /home/john/Mail mv archive $dir exit 0 which moves my archive to a dated folder. I set up a cron tab to run the shell script every 15 day (I get a *lot* of mail). You could easily make that directory gzipped. Hope this helps. -- Jonathan Pennington | A computer without Windows [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is like a dog without http://www.coastalgeology.org | bricks tied to its head.
Re: Archiving mail by date
I'm sure many people here have some nice archiving macros, which would simplify the commands you need to give to mutt... As an example, you could define macro index some-keystroke \ "collapse-alltag-pattern~r14denter|gzip /some/archive/file.gz \ "mark and archive old (2+ weeks) messages" and push "some-keystroke". Or, maybe cleaner, make a special muttrc file for archiving, put the push commands in there, and use "mutt -F muttrc-archive" e.g -- -e On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 2:18 PM, Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed: OK, a little think and look at the mutt manual has come up with reasonable ways of doing this. The initial 'design' (hack would be more like it!) would be as follows:- Use find to run down through the folder hierarchy Execute mutt for each mailbox/maildir found tag messages for a date range with T~r dd/mm/yy-dd/mm/yy save the tagged messages somewhere delete the tagged messages (optional) Now the only way I can see to execute the "T~r dd/mm/yy-dd/mm/yy", the save command and the delete command is by using mutt's -e command line paramter and a 'push' command. Does this seem a possible approach, and are there any significant limitations on the command line and 'push'?
Re: Archiving mail by date
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:30:22AM -0400, Erik Jacobsen wrote: I'm sure many people here have some nice archiving macros, which would simplify the commands you need to give to mutt... As an example, you could define macro index some-keystroke \ "collapse-alltag-pattern~r14denter|gzip /some/archive/file.gz \ "mark and archive old (2+ weeks) messages" and push "some-keystroke". Or, maybe cleaner, make a special muttrc file for archiving, put the push commands in there, and use "mutt -F muttrc-archive" e.g Yes, those would improve things by making the command line 'push' rather less messy. However they don't end up with the archive having the same hierarchy as my main mail folder which is how I would like it to end up if I can. I have limited quota on this machine (where the IMAP server is running) so what I want to do is periodically archive and delete old mails from here and put them on my home machine where space is not a problem. It would be much nicer if I can still find mails in the familiar hiearchy there, there's not much point in archiving mails in such a way that you can't find anything in them. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Archiving mail by date
Chris Green proclaimed on mutt-users that: Neat, but unfortunately although I use procmail here it doesn't get used to process the mail I want to archive. I've just had a thought, there isn't a huge amount of mail here in the IMAP folders, just 1.8Mb at the moment. I can just gzip the whole lot up and copy it to my home machine and gunzip it into a directory Even neater. Occam's razor - the simplest solution is always the best :) Thinking 'out loud' on the list does have some advantages! :-) Yep :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Captain Penny's Law: You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you Can't Fool Mom.
Re: Archiving mail by date
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:20:45PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Chris Green proclaimed on mutt-users that: I have limited quota on this machine (where the IMAP server is running) so what I want to do is periodically archive and delete old One thing can be done - when you use procmail on your remote imap folder to refile stuff, also use formail to add a header X-Folder: foo When you fetch the mails to your local box, you can filter for X-Folder. Trivial - but much easier (if far less satisfying) than concocting arcane macros :) Neat, but unfortunately although I use procmail here it doesn't get used to process the mail I want to archive. Most of the mail I want to archive is put here from remote mutt clients 'manually' (using the macros I've been muttering about for the past few weeks). They are stored on the IMAP server here so I can view and refer to them from any of my mutt clients. I've just had a thought, there isn't a huge amount of mail here in the IMAP folders, just 1.8Mb at the moment. I can just gzip the whole lot up and copy it to my home machine and gunzip it into a directory there. All I need to do then is delete the old mail from the IMAP hierarchy here and I'll have an image of what was on the IMAP server on a specific date on my home machine. So at the end of each period (month, year, whatever) I just take a snapshot of the IMAP server and put it in a directory called something like jul1997 on my home machine. The duplication of some messages on the home machine doesn't really matter. That won't need complex scripts or macros at all, I'll probably clear out the old mail from here manually as there are some folders I probably won't delete old mail from. Thinking 'out loud' on the list does have some advantages! :-) -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Folder Hooks
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 07:39:38AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: [Problem with folder-hook] Thanks, Frank, but no joy on any of these. I even commented out my "folder-hook . ..." defaults, which are above the ondes I showed above. Perhaps you post your muttrc and we can look. I can prove that the folder-hook mechanism is working in 1.2i ... Frank
mutt and .signature
how do I stop mutt adding that annoying -- thing? -- (yes this one right here) __ _ __ _ Justin Megawarne [ Solitude ] Tel: +44 (0)20 8863 0718 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel: +44 (0)7941 270 136 http://kholmes.dhis.net/ irc.destructor.net irc.xchat.org - #Linux
Re: mutt and .signature
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:36:01PM +0100, Justin Megawarne [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: how do I stop mutt adding that annoying -- thing? Put in your muttrc file: unset sig_dashes Best Regards, -- - Alessandro Martins
C-c C-c WORKS!
In Mutt, set your editor to emacsclient: set editor="emacsclient" # editor to use when composing messages and use C-x # to exit. You can do other tricks by building an elisp Funny, I actually did the opposite. For some reason, if my .emacs says start server, then C-c C-c breaks in Mutt. Since I have a fast system, I don't use emacsclient, so I took (server-start) out of .emacs and it works. Something for the archive at least. -J -- Jonathan Pennington | A computer without Windows [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is like a dog without http://www.coastalgeology.org | bricks tied to its head.
Re: mutt and .signature
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:36:01PM +0100, Justin Megawarne muttered: how do I stop mutt adding that annoying -- thing? -- (yes this one right here) __ _ __ _ IMHO it's not something you'd really want to do... Part of an RFC states that the message and the sig "should" be seperated by dash dash space "-- " My 0.01 cent's worth ... Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: mutt and .signature
Justin Megawarne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 17 May 2000: how do I stop mutt adding that annoying -- thing? -- (yes this one right here) Others told you how, I'll just copy the manual's comment: It is strongly recommended that you not unset this variable unless your "signature" contains just your name. This is because email programs (including Mutt) use that delimiter to tell which part of the email message is the signature. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716
converting Date: header field to local timezone in pager?
I've searched all over the docs, and can't figure out how to get the pager to display all Date: header fields in time converted to the local timezone. Is this possible? In other words, some mails from the UK dispay dates like this: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:09:03 +0100 While mails from the US West Coast (my local timezone) display like this: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:51:46 -0700 (PDT) When displaying these two mails, I'd like to see: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:09:03 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:51:46 Or, better yet: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:09:03 (11:09:03 +0100) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:51:46 (07:51:46 -0700 (PDT)) How can I accomplish this? Thanks, David Roche
Browsing local folders/files
I would like to change mutt's behavior when, after pressing two consecutive tabs when looking for a file or folder, it shows me all the possible completions. It would be great if it could show the candidates the way GNU readline usually does (ls like, instead of ls -l like). The problem is that I have arrow_cursor set, and when browsing files it is very hard to know where it is pointing at (the arrow is on the left, and the file name on the right). Is there a way to change it? An alternate solution would be to define a "readline-options-hook" that allows different settings of variables when browsing the options readline shows, and when in a mailbox. Joan M. Garcia
mutt process doesnt terminate
Hi, Using: Mutt 1.2i (2000-05-09) Linux RH6.2 Gnome/Enlightment When running mutt in xterm and i kill the xterm window with the cross button, then the window disappears. However mutt keeps running like crazy in the process list occupying 75% CPU! If running normal in the foreground all is fine concerning CPU. I have no clue if i had this with previous versions. Jan
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
Hmmm. I have to rephrase this problem description after further testing. I warn you. It's hard to get your hands on (at least for me!) The problem i have is: Because my wife (caroline) uses my window session to read her email i use the following script 'caroline' so that she can run applications like mutt from her own account: caroline: su - caroline Now for the sequence of events that make mutt go wild: -- 1) In my own X-session my wife starts xterm (which is of course owned by my id) and in that xterm she runs the script 'caroline' and logs into her own account. 2) Then she starts mutt. 3) Then she kills the xterm with the cross button!! Now xterm window terminates but mutt keeps running like crazy (88% cpu)!!! Note that it's something related to mutt. When she starts pine or elm this does NOT happen at all and everything is nicely deleted from the process list. Another wierd thing It ONLY happens if i run the 'su - caroline' via that script! If i start an xterm and manually run the 'su - caroline' and then mutt, all IS nicely deleted after killingthe xterm. Now in that script i changed the 'su - caroline' into 'rlogin -l caroline localhost' which works fine. I cant get a grip on why mutt is getting wild..?!? jan
Re: mutt and .signature
*squeak* okay, point taken doods =) thanks for the help, and I'll be leaving the double dash in =)) -- __ _ __ _ Justin Megawarne [ Solitude ] Tel: +44 (0)20 8863 0718 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel: +44 (0)7941 270 136 http://kholmes.dhis.net/ irc.destructor.net irc.xchat.org - #Linux
Re: Folder Hooks
Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 17 May 2000: This may be a problem. I would like to use both send-hooks and folder hooks. I will explore further. Mutt 1.2 has a new feature command "clear-hooks". It should be possible to clear all your send-hooks when entering a folder and set them selectively, and also to have a different default send-hook for each folder. It may get a bit complex but theoretically it should be doable. :-) (Picture this: a defalt folder-hook that sets a default send-hook, and some other send-hooks, and then some other folder-hooks that set some other kind of default send-hook, as well as other send-hooks... May require some care to get that working right. g) This would be easier if there was a folder-matching operator that could be used in send-hooks, but there isn't, so you have to make do with what you've got. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Entropy isn't what it used to be.
IMAP attachments
I am trying to send a file to a friend with an attachment.
I have IMAP enabled with folder set to {imapserver}Mail.
when I try to attach the file, I get the error "unable to attach {imapserver}attach.
I know it isn't much to go on, but anyone got ideas on what is wrong?
Dave
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Re: Folder Hooks
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:27:03PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen muttered: - Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 16 May 2000: - I am testing by going into the appropriate folder, then starting a new - email with "m". If I provide the appropriate address for the send hook, it - works. If I provide a different address, the defaults are invoked. This is - true even when I comment out my send hooks. - - I still think it might be because the send-hooks are overriding the - settings in the folder-hook(s). The send-hook stuff is executed every - time you beging a new email, so if you have a default send-hook (very - likely) that gets executed every time. If it sets any of the same - things that you set with a folder-hook when entering that folder, those - settings will be overridden. This turns out to be correct. I carefully commented out only the default send hooks, and then use an email address that would not trigger any of the custom ones. I got my folder hook to work. Either I previously observed my tests incorrectly (quite possible after many interations), or something else prevented the folder hooks from working. Previously I did comment out all of my send hooks, not just the default ones, and restarted mutt. This may be a problem. I would like to use both send-hooks and folder hooks. I will explore further. - - You say that this happens even when you comment out the send-hooks, but - did you *restart* Mutt after that? Even if you comment the lines out - from your .muttrc and do ":source .muttrc" then send-hooks will remain, - you need to restart Mutt to do a full reset. - (Or, I suppose you could use the clear-hooks command to clear all - send-hooks, but restart is a sure way...) I have been restarting mutt. - - - Regards, - Mikko - -- - // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ - // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / - // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / - "The last good thing written in C was Franz Schubert's Symphony #9." Not the Concerto for Line Printer and Orchestra, by Franz List? -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
Re: converting Date: header field to local timezone in pager?
On 2000.05.17, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Roche" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've searched all over the docs, and can't figure out how to get the pager to display all Date: header fields in time converted to the local timezone. Is this possible? This is not exactly what you describe below, but it achieves a similar effect: set pager_format="%S%T %C: %-16.16n [%[%y/%m/%d %H:%M:%S %Z]] %s" The "%[%y/%m/%d %H:%M:%S %Z]" is a date format string. In other words, some mails from the UK dispay dates like this: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:09:03 +0100 While mails from the US West Coast (my local timezone) display like this: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:51:46 -0700 (PDT) When displaying these two mails, I'd like to see: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:09:03 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:51:46 Or, better yet: Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:09:03 (11:09:03 +0100) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:51:46 (07:51:46 -0700 (PDT)) How can I accomplish this? Thanks, David Roche -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
new quit sequence
Anyone know the sequence I'd use to build a macro to quit Mutt? I want to use "q" to exit messages and return to the pager, but I don't want to accidentally exit Mutt like I keep doing. I'd like to have a capital "Q" quit Mutt and purge all the deleted files without prompting. Thanks. -J -- Jonathan Pennington | A computer without Windows [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is like a dog without http://www.coastalgeology.org | bricks tied to its head.
Re: new quit sequence
Jonathan Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 17 May 2000: Anyone know the sequence I'd use to build a macro to quit Mutt? I want to use "q" to exit messages and return to the pager, but I don't want to accidentally exit Mutt like I keep doing. I'd like to have a capital "Q" quit Mutt and purge all the deleted files without prompting. Thanks. I have a pretty similar setup. What I have is the the "quit" function bound to Q. The amount of prompts you get depends on various settings, eg. $move -- if you set that to "ask-yes" or "ask-no" you'll be prompted, if it's just "yes" or "no" then it'll go ahead and do those actions. So setting that variable should get rid of that prompt, there's other variables that control the appearance of other prompts. If you want, you may make a macro out of Q that first sets all those variables as you want them, and then invokes the quit functions. The regular q, which I use mostly, I have bound to "change-folder?tab", which puts me in the incoming mail folder browser. In the pager, q is bound to "exit", which takes me back to the index. I hope this helps, or at least gives you some idea where to start. Regards, Mikko PS. Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] when posting to the list, not the gbnet.net address. Thanks. -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / "Are you suggesting that coconuts are _migratory_?" - Quest For The Holy Grail
Re: turning off the debug option, how??
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 06:33:43PM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote: configure comand used: ./configure --with-included-zlib --prefix=/home/frandebo/prog/local/ --enable-locales-fix --with-charmaps --enable-nfs-fix Yup. The default is enabled, and configure appears to be able to enable it, only. Should be fixed IMO. after configuring the program you can easyly modify the Makefile... I suggest config.h . or you simply strip the mutt binary after building it. That strips source code and symbols, but the dprint() statements are really compiled in. Gero
Re: Possible index bug in 1.2...
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:16:08AM +0200, Gero Treuner wrote: Hi! Yo... On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 10:32:42PM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote: It doesn't appear to be necessarily consistent that the subject lines are just one off. If I jump down the list a ways, the subject lines are several lines off. This sounds more like having the wrong terminal settings than a problem with mutt. Check your TERM environment variable, and the terminfo database. Did you try it from a different kind of terminal, too (console, serial terminal, ...)? What happens? Hmmm... I'm using Eterm with a setting of 'xterm-color'. Pretty standard stuff. What made me consider mutt as a possible culprit as opposed to my terminal emulation is that it only happened when I was browsing my 'read mail' box which contained 9000+ messages. Other mailboxes with far fewer messages were unaffected. And since the terminal only sees one screenful of messages at a time, it seemed to be exonerated. I have attached a .muttdebug0 file created with -d4. In this session, I I'm not very familiar with the mutt debug messages, maybe because they are more for observing special tricky parts of the code and not a general debugging tool (with the exception of the IMAP part). I'd suggest using the new "muttbug" script - which includes the necessary information - to report bugs. If debug output is helpful you will hear it from the developers. I will do so! Thanks... Ben -- Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him helpless. - Monty Python
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
Jan Houtsma proclaimed on mutt-users that: 3) Then she kills the xterm with the cross button!! Simple thing - quit mutt first, before killing your XTerm :) Or else, there is always kill -9 `pidof(mutt)` :) Now in that script i changed the 'su - caroline' into 'rlogin -l caroline localhost' which works fine. I cant get a grip on why mutt is getting wild..?!? Definitely not mutt's fault :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Do molecular biologists wear designer genes?
Re: IMAP attachments
Dave (Grizz) Glaser proclaimed on mutt-users that:
I am trying to send a file to a friend with an attachment.
I have IMAP enabled with folder set to {imapserver}Mail.
when I try to attach the file, I get the error "unable to attach {imapserver}attach.
I know it isn't much to go on, but anyone got ideas on what is wrong?
More than enough to go on :) Mutt is trying to search for the attached
file on your IMAP server. Try giving the explicit path of the file, and
rely on tab to autocomplete long unix paths -
a
File to attach: ~/foo/bar/baz/quux/attachment.html
[It worked when I was reading my mails from a M$ sexchange folder through
IMAP (which sexchange implements badly) not so long ago, till I could
convince my sysad to shift my mailbox to the sun box]
hth
-s
--
Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com
Do molecular biologists wear designer genes?
Re: IMAP attachments
Justin Megawarne proclaimed on mutt-users that: File to attach: ~/foo/bar/baz/quux/attachment.html Wait a second ... shouldn't that be qux/quux/ ?? Or am I getting confused? You are right :) ... back to esr's jargon file :( -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you.
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
Jan Houtsma (Wed 17.0500-22:12): 'rlogin -l caroline localhost' which works fine. what happens if you put "exec " in front of "rlogin"? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: Possible index bug in 1.2...
Ben Beuchler (Wed 17.0500-21:29): Hmmm... I'm using Eterm with a setting of 'xterm-color'. Pretty standard stuff. What made me consider mutt as a possible culprit as opposed to my terminal emulation is that it only happened when I was browsing my 'read mail' box which contained 9000+ messages. Other mailboxes with far fewer messages were unaffected. And since the terminal only sees one screenful of messages at a time, it seemed to be exonerated. aha! linux is the one (it's always the butler, isn't it?). the ext2fs tries to go thru the mail one last time as directed by mutt, and since 9000+ directory entries are visited with no sorting or any help at all: this takes some time and makes people use freebsd, like me! but seriously: does this "insane" state go away with lots of time by itself? if yes, it could well be the filesystem, or... not? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait
Re: Possible index bug in 1.2...
clemensF proclaimed on mutt-users that: terminal emulation is that it only happened when I was browsing my 'read mail' box which contained 9000+ messages. Other mailboxes with far fewer Possible - and dumb - solution :) Make it mbox-march-2000, mbox-april-2000 etc etc. Huge mailboxes are always a hassle - even on freebsd boxen :) but seriously: does this "insane" state go away with lots of time by itself? if yes, it could well be the filesystem, or... not? yes -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Any clod can have the facts, but having an opinion is an art. -- Charles McCabe
Re: Doing netnews with mutt
On 2000.05.16, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bennett Todd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've gotten so hooked on mutt that I'm wanting to use it for netnews. I know this has been discussed a lot, but as best I've been able to tell the focus has been on NNTP support for some reason --- even though mutt does email fine without talking SMTP. It does email fine without talking IMAP, too, but sometimes access to a remote message store is good. I'd much rather use mutt's IMAP mode than use mutt in conjunction with fetchmail. This is just a defense against your last statement, though, not a proclamation of opposition to what you're doing. That's actually a very interesting idea. So, on a related note: are there any other NNTP patches for mutt, besides Brandon Long's 0.95 version? I'd imagine that they'll never make it into the core, but I'm still interested. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Doing netnews with mutt
David Champion proclaimed on mutt-users that: So, on a related note: are there any other NNTP patches for mutt, besides Brandon Long's 0.95 version? I'd imagine that they'll never make it into the core, but I'm still interested. Before I experiment and mess up my box's mutt install, is Brandon Lang's nntp patch forward compatible with mutt 1.3? -s -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Any clod can have the facts, but having an opinion is an art. -- Charles McCabe
