fcc folder new mail notification

2001-11-21 Thread René Clerc

Hi all,

this probably has come up, but I couldn't find it. I looked for it,
honestly!! ;-)

When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the
folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder
is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive.

But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to
that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of
course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse
me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?).

What's a reasonable workaround for this?

Thanks,

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Re: Handling digests

2001-11-21 Thread W. Verheijen

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:57:37PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
 What I do want to do is to do something to the digest(s) so that
 I can deal with them in the normal way, i.e. get threads etc.
Since AFAIK the mail in the digest only contain Date, From, To and
Subject headers, threading is not possible (at least not
strict_threads), because you need the Reference header for that.

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Re: Reading a Function parameter/Sorry!!?

2001-11-21 Thread Michael P. Soulier

On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:48:51PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
  
  What language was that, anyway?  :-)
  
  Walt
  
 rebol: www.rebol.com

It looked like Vim's scripting language to me...

Mike

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Re: Reading a Function parameter/Sorry!!?

2001-11-21 Thread Tim Johnson

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:32:22AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:48:51PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
   
   What language was that, anyway?  :-)
   
   Walt
   
  rebol: www.rebol.com
 
 It looked like Vim's scripting language to me...
 
 Mike
Rebol is more like lisp/scheme. The forward slash is (sort of like)
- (in C/C++/perl) or dot notation in many languages.
Believe it or not ?? is a function name. Question mark and exclamation
marks are allowed symbols in functions.
Actually the binary is just another ansi C program (like python/perl etc)
tj
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Re: patchlist

2001-11-21 Thread David T-G

John --

...and then John Kearney said...
%   where can i get my hands on a copy of patchlist.c/.sh ?

I don't know if it's the same thing, but in the old days of lots of
feature and bugfix patches there was a list of all patches that would get
compiled and included and would then show up in `mutt -v` for reference.
Sec Zehl liked that and so, when the patchlist inclusion was dropped
from the distribution, he wrote a patch that brought it back so that
his patches could reference it.

Since I add patches in bunches, I maintain multiple copies of
patchlist.c for copying into the build tree as I make in stages (but
Rene said to not ask why so maybe I shouldn't tell you :-)

You can find the patchlist patch, which will create an empty patchlist.c
file to which you can add, at my mutt build page at

  http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/

in the file listing; look for patch-0.00.sec.patchlist.7.dtg (and to
see how I implement it check out 00.makeme.sh).

Finally, if all of this has nothing to do with what you were asking,
you're under no obligation to visit ;-)


% 
%  TIA 
%   JJK

HTH  HAND


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Blank Line after the Status Line

2001-11-21 Thread Todd Foster

All,
  Is there a way to add a blank line after the Status Line to seperate it
from the first message (having two highlighted lines side-by-side isn't
what I wanted)?  I looked through the status_format information on the 
www.mutt.org web-site and couldn't find anything.  I tried adding \n 
at the end and that didn't work.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Todd




Re: fcc folder new mail notification

2001-11-21 Thread Will Yardley

Ren? Clerc wrote:
 
 When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the
 folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder
 is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive.
 
 But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to
 that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of
 course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse
 me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?).
 
 What's a reasonable workaround for this?

i could be wrong, but i don't think there's a way to do this with mbox
delivery (unless mutt can somehow copy messages to an mbox without
modifying the mbox's modification time.

however if you use maildir (which might be a pain to switch to /
undesirable for other reasons) i think you will get the desired
behavior.

w

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Re: fcc folder new mail notification

2001-11-21 Thread René Clerc

* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-11-2001 20:28]:

|  When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the
|  folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder
|  is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive.
|  
|  But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to
|  that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of
|  course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse
|  me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?).
|  
|  What's a reasonable workaround for this?
| 
| i could be wrong, but i don't think there's a way to do this with mbox
| delivery (unless mutt can somehow copy messages to an mbox without
| modifying the mbox's modification time.

I don't believe it can :(

| however if you use maildir (which might be a pain to switch to /
| undesirable for other reasons) i think you will get the desired
| behavior.

That's the problem: I have a very old HD, small, and all seperate
mails will fill my HD up in no time...

Thanks anyway,

-- 
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will happen to you the rest of the day.

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newbie question

2001-11-21 Thread Greg Steele

When I start mutt I see the contents of /var/spool/username. I change folders using 
'c' command. I cannot figure out how to get back to view /var/spool/username. 

Thanks.

Greg
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Re: newbie question

2001-11-21 Thread René Clerc

* Greg Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-11-2001 20:59]:

| When I start mutt I see the contents of /var/spool/username. I
| change folders using 'c' command. I cannot figure out how to get back
| to view /var/spool/username. 

Euhm... what about using that same command? For your convience, you
don't have to type /var/spool/username, but you can type ! (iff
you have the spoolfile diretive set to that directory.

And you also might consider adjusting your editor settings to keep the
textwidth of your email body below 80 characters (preferrably  76 to
allow quoting)

HTH,

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HTML viewing question

2001-11-21 Thread René Clerc

Hi all,

Because of the recent discussion on third party apps, I started tuning
my mailcap file. I have these wishes:

When somebody sends me an HTML email (or some blabla mailing list), I
would like to:

- view the dumped output in the pager
  (text/html; links -dump %s; nametemplate=mutt.html; copiousoutput)
- browse when I explicitly visit the attachment in the attachment
  menu. So really fire up links
  (text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html)

The latter is handy when you have to follow links to unsubscribe from
that list, muhahaha :)

Does anybody know a convenient way to do this?

TIA,

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Wrapping text

2001-11-21 Thread Sean LeBlanc

I'm not sure this is quite a Mutt question, but someone on here probably has
a good answer. I have a hook for creating custom signature. In it, I call a
program which sometimes generates really long lines which I have to wrap
myself. Is there any way to have vim wrap them? I have textwidth set to 76,
so that as I type, it wraps. But it does not wrap lines that are already
there, if you know what I mean. If that's not possible, does anyone know of
quick and dirty way to, say, do it in bash? It's already a bash script now.

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Bouncing a message with an attachment

2001-11-21 Thread Collin Peters

If I bounce a message that has (For example) a .doc attachment, the
receipient gets all the headers and .doc is inline with the message and
totally garbled.  What are the correct muttrc parameters for this.  Ones I
have that may apply are:

  set mime_forward_rest = yes   
  set message_format = %s 
  set mime_forward=ask-no   
unset mime_forward_decode 
  set rfc2047_parameters = no   

I've read the list archives on forwarding a message with attachments but
these don't seem to apply to bouncing.  

Collin



Re: Wrapping text

2001-11-21 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:58:50PM -0700, Sean LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure this is quite a Mutt question, but someone on here probably has
 a good answer. I have a hook for creating custom signature. In it, I call a
 program which sometimes generates really long lines which I have to wrap
 myself. Is there any way to have vim wrap them? I have textwidth set to 76,
 so that as I type, it wraps. But it does not wrap lines that are already
 there, if you know what I mean. If that's not possible, does anyone know of
 quick and dirty way to, say, do it in bash? It's already a bash script now.

You could use fmt or a similar tool. I would try:
long_line_producer|fmt
or something similar.

Nicolas



Re: HTML viewing question

2001-11-21 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:30:49PM +0100, Ren? Clerc wrote:

 When somebody sends me an HTML email (or some blabla mailing list), I
 would like to:
 
 - view the dumped output in the pager
   (text/html; links -dump %s; nametemplate=mutt.html; copiousoutput)
 - browse when I explicitly visit the attachment in the attachment
   menu. So really fire up links
   (text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html)
 
 The latter is handy when you have to follow links to unsubscribe from
 that list, muhahaha :)
 
 Does anybody know a convenient way to do this?

Except for the choice of browsers, that's exactly what I have my mailcap
configured to do:

text/html;  w3m %s; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html;  w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

Substitute links for w3m and you should be all set.  Also, if you
haven't done so already, make sure this line is in your muttrc:

auto_view text/html

Gary

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Re: Wrapping text

2001-11-21 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:58:50PM -0700, Sean LeBlanc wrote:
 I'm not sure this is quite a Mutt question, but someone on here probably has
 a good answer. I have a hook for creating custom signature. In it, I call a
 program which sometimes generates really long lines which I have to wrap
 myself. Is there any way to have vim wrap them? I have textwidth set to 76,
 so that as I type, it wraps. But it does not wrap lines that are already
 there, if you know what I mean.

To do this within vim, just put the cursor on the too-long line and type

gqq

See

:help gq

Depending on how fancy you wanted to get, you could probably set up an
autocommand to do this automatically when you opened the file, something
like

au BufNewFile,BufRead /tmp/mutt-* $normal gqq

for example, if the line to be reformatted is the last line of your
signature.

Gary

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Re: HTML viewing question

2001-11-21 Thread René Clerc

* Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-11-2001 23:31]:

[problem]

| Except for the choice of browsers, that's exactly what I have my mailcap
| configured to do:
| 
| text/html;  w3m %s; nametemplate=%s.html
| text/html;  w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
| 
| Substitute links for w3m and you should be all set.  Also, if you
| haven't done so already, make sure this line is in your muttrc:
| 
| auto_view text/html

The auto_view was already set. The probem was that I was thinking of
some way to use the correct mailcap entry when either viewing the html
thingie in the pager or through the attachments menu.

I had no idea you could have duplicate mailcap entries.

It works fine, thanks!

Bye,

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Re: Wrapping text

2001-11-21 Thread Sean LeBlanc

On 11-21 14:44, Gary Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:58:50PM -0700, Sean LeBlanc wrote:
  I'm not sure this is quite a Mutt question, but someone on here probably has
  a good answer. I have a hook for creating custom signature. In it, I call a
  program which sometimes generates really long lines which I have to wrap
  myself. Is there any way to have vim wrap them? I have textwidth set to 76,
  so that as I type, it wraps. But it does not wrap lines that are already
  there, if you know what I mean.
 
 To do this within vim, just put the cursor on the too-long line and type
 
 gqq
 
 See
 
 :help gq
 
 Depending on how fancy you wanted to get, you could probably set up an
 autocommand to do this automatically when you opened the file, something
 like
 
 au BufNewFile,BufRead /tmp/mutt-* $normal gqq
 
 for example, if the line to be reformatted is the last line of your
 signature.
 
 Gary

Thanks. Nicolas suggested using fmt, and that works just fine for the sig.
However, your suggestion is good to know. I've been manually fixing lines
that got over my limit (and then adjusting via joins and newlines until the
next paragraph, etc), and I wish I had known about gqq (and variants) in the
past.  As Burns would say: Ecellent. :)

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Re: fcc folder new mail notification

2001-11-21 Thread Sean LeBlanc

On 11-21 20:55, René Clerc wrote:
 * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21-11-2001 20:28]:
 
 |  When I send mail to a particular friend, I set the fcc folder to the
 |  folder in which procmail delivers mail from this friend. This folder
 |  is listed in my 'mailboxes' directive.
 |  
 |  But, however, when I am _not_ in my friends folder, and send mail to
 |  that friend, Mutt thinks that I have new mail in that folder. Of
 |  course (, Rob, ;-) Mutt is right in thinking that, but it does confuse
 |  me a bit (whow, a reply *that* fast?).
 |  
 |  What's a reasonable workaround for this?
 | 
 | i could be wrong, but i don't think there's a way to do this with mbox
 | delivery (unless mutt can somehow copy messages to an mbox without
 | modifying the mbox's modification time.
 
 I don't believe it can :(

Can't you use touch to do this? Somehow figure out original time, store
that, then call touch -m with original time? I don't know enough about mutt to
know if hooks will permit you to call a shell script at the right times to
do this, however. Just a thought.

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Re: Bouncing a message with an attachment

2001-11-21 Thread Shawn D. McPeek

Previously, Collin Peters wrote:
% If I bounce a message that has (For example) a .doc attachment, the
% receipient gets all the headers and .doc is inline with the message and
% totally garbled.  What are the correct muttrc parameters for this.  Ones I
% have that may apply are:
% 
%   set mime_forward_rest = yes 
%   set message_format = %s   
%   set mime_forward=ask-no 
% unset mime_forward_decode 
%   set rfc2047_parameters = no 
% 
% I've read the list archives on forwarding a message with attachments but
% these don't seem to apply to bouncing.  

I do not believe any parameters apply.  If you bounce a message, the
entire thing gets sent - you cannot have only pieces of it go.  If the
recipient cannot understand MIME email, that's another problem all
together.

If you bounce a message that has a .doc attachment, the recipient gets a
message with a .doc attachment.

Shawn

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attach a pub key

2001-11-21 Thread Greg Steele

When I use esck to attach a public key to an email, 
what is it attaching? Is it in a form that someone can
put it into their keyring? It does not seem to be in
ascii armor form.

Thanks.

Greg
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Re: Bouncing a message with an attachment

2001-11-21 Thread David Rock

On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:46:16PM -0800, Shawn D. McPeek wrote:
 
 I do not believe any parameters apply.  If you bounce a message, the
 entire thing gets sent - you cannot have only pieces of it go.  If the
 recipient cannot understand MIME email, that's another problem all
 together.
 
 If you bounce a message that has a .doc attachment, the recipient gets a
 message with a .doc attachment.

This is the same result I get. I actually used bounce before I
discovered the mime_forward et al settings to pass along attachments.

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