Re: Pb avec Vim

2002-10-03 Thread Loïc Minier

[ Il serait plus poli de poster sous un nom plus décent que Kiouk. ]


Kiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Thu, Oct 03, 2002:

 Avec Vim (sur la console) je n'arrive pas à activer la coloration
 Syntaxique. J'ai essayer de trouver dans la doc mais ça n'a pas été
 fructueux.

   Il faut évidemment que la coloration soit activée (« :syntax on »
 pour l'activer), que vim détecte que c'est bien d'un mail dont il
 s'agit (ft=mail). Mais il faut aussi que le terminal supporte le bon
 nombre de couleurs (t_Co=16).

   Pour vérifier les deux derniers points, il faut taper « :set » et
 pour changer ces options, « :set t_Co=8 » (pour Putty par exemple).

   Si ça ne marche toujours pas après, c'est probablement un problème
 d'installation de vim.


 Avec GVim j'ai bien la coloration syntaxique mais je n'arrive pas à
 activer le jeu de couleur de mon choix par défaut (Dark Blue).

   Il suffit de sourcer (avec « source » - cf. :help source) le
 fichier de coloration.


-- 
Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: yes/no bug

2002-10-03 Thread Ricardo SIGNES

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 05:46:29PM -0700, Martin Siegert wrote:
 
 Is there a way to tell mutt to display the correct prompt (y/n), e.g.,
 
 Create /home/siegert/Mail/xyz? ([y]/n):
 
 other than editing the source code?

No.

You could play around with doing this via a language modification (see
HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR) or just by changing the yes/no strings in (curs_lib.c)
int mutt_yesorno.

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Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 05:52]:
  Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...)
  I got some links that lynx won't show correctly.
 
 well - complain to your winxp dealer then!
 you have *paid* for the damn thing, right?
 
 no need to complain about lynx or mutt, though.
 they work perfectly alright on linux/unix - see?

He was not complaining, but asking a question about a rather
involved technical issue.  

By the way any complaint in this matter should address the website
builder. That is unless you want to open links in a certain type of
mail. People with a fancy .procmailrc probably don't know what I
mean.

Bob




Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Hanspeter Roth

  On Oct 02 at 21:08, Will Yardley spoke:

[snipping a lot]

 Most mail clients either blindly honor Reply-To: OR give the user an
 option (or allow you to configure it either way).
 
  And maybe there are also mailers which expect another header rather
  than Reply-To. So if I knew those I could try to be compatible with
  them.
 
 Reply-To is the only one that's an internet standard AFAIK, and the only
 one that's widely implemented (for email, that is - Usenet has
 'Followup-To', which is what Mail-Followup-To is based on).
 
 You should be reasonably safe setting 'Reply-To'.

The majority of ansers I get in deed come from mail clients that do
honor Reply-To. But occasionally I realize that I get answers at the
address that's not mentioned in the Reply-To header.

Now if the only reason Reply-To is not honored is the configuration
of the one's MUA that's answering me, I have to accept that.
But if there is _another reason_ for this and I can do something
about it, I'd just like to know...

-Hanspeter




Re: specifying gpg binary location?

2002-10-03 Thread Kurt Lieber

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:42:00PM -0700 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where do I specify the location of gpg (other binaries?) for mutt?

set pgp_gpg=/usr/bin/gpg

Good reference for using mutt w/ pgp/gpg is:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mutt-GnuPG-PGP-HOWTO-6.html

--kurt




Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, D. J. Bolderman wrote:

 On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Robert Ian Smit wrote:

   Subject says it all: if I'm using Mutt over an ssh connection, how can I
   execute http links in mails ? Or is this simply not possible ?

  By executing http links you mean starting a graphical browser?

  Don't know how to do that, but perhaps using a text browser like
  lynx or w3m can help you here.

 Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...) I got some
 links that lynx won't show correctly.

for example?  (a test page or sample url)

-- 
T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://invisible-island.net
ftp://invisible-island.net




Sending escape sequences with $status_format

2002-10-03 Thread Vincent Lefevre

Is there a way to specify terminal espace sequences in $status_format,
for instance to write some data to the title or icon string? Of course,
these characters mustn't be taken into account in right-justifying
(%X). In zsh, one can do that with the prompt string, enclosing the
escape sequence with %{ and %}.

-- 
Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100%
validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International
des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc.
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread René Clerc

* Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 11:44]:

 On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, D. J. Bolderman wrote:

  Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...) I got some
  links that lynx won't show correctly.
 
 for example?  (a test page or sample url)

Something 'flash'y, I suspect.

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Retteb sif lahd, noces ehttub, but the second half is better.
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Re: Sending escape sequences with $status_format

2002-10-03 Thread Gregory Seidman

Vincent Lefevre sez:
} Is there a way to specify terminal espace sequences in $status_format,
} for instance to write some data to the title or icon string? Of course,
} these characters mustn't be taken into account in right-justifying
} (%X). In zsh, one can do that with the prompt string, enclosing the
} escape sequence with %{ and %}.

I have, for a longtime, wanted something like that. It might even have been
the reason I joined this mailing list. My understanding, however, is that
curses/slang interferes with doing it directly.

It would be nice, though, to have something like zsh's %{ %} that mutt
would interpret as just send this to stdout and don't worry about it
(after, of course, expanding enclosed expressions such as mbox name). Any
developers/hackers (note the crosspost) like the idea? I'll try doing it
myself if I have the time, but that doesn't seem likely.

} Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100%
--Greg




Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:

Subject says it all: if I'm using Mutt over an ssh connection, how can I
execute http links in mails ? Or is this simply not possible ?
   By executing http links you mean starting a graphical browser?

   Don't know how to do that, but perhaps using a text
   browser like lynx or w3m can help you here.

  Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...)
  I got some links that lynx won't show correctly.

 well - complain to your winxp dealer then!
 you have *paid* for the damn thing, right?

No. My boss. see ?

 no need to complain about lynx or mutt, though.
 they work perfectly alright on linux/unix - see?

Sorry, but was I complaining ? I was just ASKING a small question!!!

I notice some kind of offensive behaviour on this list the last couple
of days. Too bad.

-- 

D.J. Bolderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, René Clerc wrote:

 * Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 11:44]:

  On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, D. J. Bolderman wrote:

   Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...) I got some
   links that lynx won't show correctly.

  for example?  (a test page or sample url)

 Something 'flash'y, I suspect.

Yup that's right. Well never mind, I'll just copy the address in my
browser then.

Thanks for replying guys.

-- 

D.J. Bolderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: collapse-all question

2002-10-03 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:

  .. I've created MailingLists.Mutt.Archive but the
  archive folder doens't get threaded when I enter it.
  I even tried a 'folder-hook =MailingList.*.*' but to no avail.
  Am I not able to use wildcards here ?

 your hook is incomplete.  i don't want to guess what you did, though.

Take it easy, you don't have to.

 so - here's the workaround:

   folder-hook . set sort=threads

Already have that. I created a folder-hook file which contains:
folder-hook =MailingLists.Mutt source ~/.mutt/maillist

~/.mutt/maillist contains push collapse-all and set sort=thread

The Mutt folder collapses, so this works. If a add another folder-hook
=MailingLists.Mutt.Archive ~/.mutt/maillist, then the Archive folder
doesn't collapse.

Thanks

-- 

D.J. Bolderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Gregory Seidman

D. J. Bolderman sez:
[...]
} Sorry, but was I complaining ? I was just ASKING a small question!!!
} 
} I notice some kind of offensive behaviour on this list the last couple
} of days. Too bad.

Don't worry, it's just Sven. You get used to him. And he pulls his weight
in the community, both by giving useful answers (however grumpily) and in
other ways.

} D.J. Bolderman
--Greg




Re: Local Mail Question

2002-10-03 Thread rparker1

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 06:54]:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-02 21:27]:
  My logon name, rdp, differs from my POP3/SMTP mail name,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My problem is that if I try using mutt to send
  email to rdp locally, my send folder shows the To: as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
  I never get the local mail.  How can I get around this.
 
 hints:
 
   set alternates=rdp|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   set index_format=...%L...

This takes care of mutt recognizing mail to either of these addresses as
being mine.  However, a little more testing shows that any unqualified
address I use for the To: that is not a valid alias has @kc.rr.com
appended to it. So, if in VIM I see:
...
To: local-account
...

Then, as soon as I save the message and get back to mutt I see:
...
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

I hope this clarifies the problem a little.  How do I suppress this?

 delivery of local email depends on the MTA setup.
 this is *not* a mutt problem then.

If I could get mutt to stop appending the @kc.rr.com and the mail still
does not come through, then this would be true.



Re: Compiling mutt with compressed patch in RHL 8.0

2002-10-03 Thread Mitrana Cristian

On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 01:44, José Romildo Malaquias wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I have just installed the new release (8.0) of
 Red Hat Linux and want to replace the mutt
 package from the Linux distribution with one
 with support for compressed folders. But I
 am not succeeding in compiling it.

 
 %changelog
 * Tue Oct 01 2002 Jos� Romildo Malaquias [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.4-4
 - Patch to add compressed folder settings for gzip and bzip2 to

Isn't this [...]
   /etc/Muttrc
 - Compressed folder patch from Roland Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^
 or this what you're looking for ? It seems it's already included in
the distro's version.

mitu





Re: collapse-all question

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 11:12]:
folder-hook . set sort=threads

 Already have that. I created a folder-hook file which contains:
 folder-hook =MailingLists.Mutt source ~/.mutt/maillist

 ~/.mutt/maillist contains push collapse-all and set sort=thread

 The Mutt folder collapses, so this works.

what about the sorting then?  does it work or not?

 If a add another
 folder-hook =MailingLists.Mutt.Archive ~/.mutt/maillist
 then the Archive folder doesn't collapse.

your hook is missing the source command.

Sven



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 10:55]:
 .. how can I execute http links in mails ?
By executing http links you mean starting a graphical browser?
Don't know how to do that, but perhaps using a text
browser like lynx or w3m can help you here.
   Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...)
   I got some links that lynx won't show correctly.
  well - complain to your winxp dealer then!
  you have *paid* for the damn thing, right?

 No. My boss. see ?

so it is either your boss's problem or you
are using a system you did not pay for?

  no need to complain about lynx or mutt, though.
  they work perfectly alright on linux/unix - see?

 Sorry, but was I complaining?
 I was just ASKING a small question!

urlview exists and works -- on unixes.
so your problem is not a mutt problem.

Sven



Re: Local Mail Question - unset use_domain

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 12:23]:
 However, a little more testing shows that any unqualified
 address I use for the To: that is not a valid alias has @kc.rr.com
 appended to it. So, if in VIM I see:
 To: local-account

 Then, as soon as I save the message and get back to mutt I see:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I hope this clarifies the problem a little.  How do I suppress this?

  unset use_domain

  delivery of local email depends on the MTA setup.
  this is *not* a mutt problem then.

 If I could get mutt to stop appending the @kc.rr.com and the
 mail still does not come through, then this would be true.

well, now it should be true, right?

Sven



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Nancy McGough

On 3 Oct 2002 D. J. Bolderman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Well never mind, I'll just copy the address in my
 browser then.

Some ssh clients support this. For example SecureCRT, which you
can get here

 http://vandyke.com/

has this feature. You just right click anywhere on a URL and
choose Open URL and it will be opened in your local Windows
browser. I discuss this and others in the SSH section of my main
Pine page:

 http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#ssh

I just switched to Mac OS X and this is pretty much the only
thing that I miss about Windows. If anyone knows of a Mac OS X
ssh client that supports this, please let me know!

Nancy
 posted via gmane.mail.mutt.user


-- 
   PROCMAIL  http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/
   IMAP  http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/
   PINE  http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/

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Re: Compiling mutt with compressed patch in RHL 8.0

2002-10-03 Thread José Romildo Malaquias

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 12:42:13PM +0300, Mitrana Cristian wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 01:44, José Romildo Malaquias wrote:
  Hello.
  
  I have just installed the new release (8.0) of
  Red Hat Linux and want to replace the mutt
  package from the Linux distribution with one
  with support for compressed folders. But I
  am not succeeding in compiling it.
 
  
  %changelog
  * Tue Oct 01 2002 Jos� Romildo Malaquias [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.4-4
  - Patch to add compressed folder settings for gzip and bzip2 to
 
 Isn't this [...]
/etc/Muttrc
  - Compressed folder patch from Roland Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ^
  or this what you're looking for ? It seems it's already included in
 the distro's version.

No. Those were added by me: the first is to be added to the end
of the /etc/Muttrc configuration file, and the second is the patch
itself to the mutt source code.

The mutt RPM shipped with Red Hat Linux does not support
compressed folders.

Romildo
-- 
Prof. Jos� Romildo Malaquias
Departamento de Computa��o - Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto
http://www.decom.ufop.br/prof/romildo/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://uber.com.br/romildo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Hanspeter Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 09:19]:
 The majority of ansers I get in deed come from mail clients that
 do honor Reply-To. But occasionally I realize that I get answers
 at the address that's not mentioned in the Reply-To header.

then the Reply-To is *not* honored.  is this a mutt reply?  no.

 Now if the only reason Reply-To is not honored is the configuration
 of the one's MUA that's answering me, I have to accept that.
 But if there is _another reason_ for this and
 I can do something about it, I'd just like to know...

if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.

Sven



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Gregory Seidman

Nancy McGough sez:
[...]
} Some ssh clients support this. For example SecureCRT, which you
} can get here
} 
}  http://vandyke.com/
} 
} has this feature. You just right click anywhere on a URL and
} choose Open URL and it will be opened in your local Windows
} browser. I discuss this and others in the SSH section of my main
} Pine page:
} 
}  http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/#ssh
} 
} I just switched to Mac OS X and this is pretty much the only
} thing that I miss about Windows. If anyone knows of a Mac OS X
} ssh client that supports this, please let me know!

Well, I use mutt in an xterm under XDarwin. This has the advantage that
simply selecting some text copies it into the clipboard. I use Keyboard
Maestro (great tool, shareware, worth every penny) to bind a key to a
simple AppleScript. I can't get to that script right now (it's on a
different machine, and I can't figure out how to read the compiled
AppleScript from the commandline), but it is equivalent to the following
shell script (note the *very important* quoting):

osascript -e 'open location '`pbpaste`''

This means that launching an URL from mutt takes two steps: select,
then keypress. (If the URL is long and wraps, however, I have to pipe it
through cat or something first.)

} Nancy
--Greg




Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:

 * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 10:55]:
  .. how can I execute http links in mails ?
 By executing http links you mean starting a graphical browser?
 Don't know how to do that, but perhaps using a text browser
 like lynx or w3m can help you here.

Yes, I mean the graphical client on my workstation (winxp...) I
got some links that lynx won't show correctly.

   well - complain to your winxp dealer then!  you have *paid* for
   the damn thing, right?

  No. My boss. see ?

 so it is either your boss's problem or you
 are using a system you did not pay for?

No. I want to read my private mail when I am at work. And I don't see it
as a problem, it's just that I was curious if I could use the browser
on my workstation.

   no need to complain about lynx or mutt, though.  they work
   perfectly alright on linux/unix - see?

  Sorry, but was I complaining?  I was just ASKING a small question!

 urlview exists and works -- on unixes.  so your problem is not a mutt
 problem.

Ok lets stop the discussion :)

-- 

D.J. Bolderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Ricardo SIGNES

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 02:34:37PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
 * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 10:55]:
   well - complain to your winxp dealer then!
   you have *paid* for the damn thing, right?
 
  No. My boss. see ?
 
 so it is either your boss's problem or you
 are using a system you did not pay for?


Jeez, Sven, settle down.

His boss has provided him with a workstation running WinXP, and it's causing
him an annoyance.  He wants to get around it.  As Bolderman's boss presumably
doesn't give two turds about his happiness, it isn't Bolderman's boss's
problem.  There are plenty of people who suffer from Windows this way, and they
don't need to be kicked while they're down.

-- 
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Re: collapse-all question

2002-10-03 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:

 folder-hook . set sort=threads

  Already have that. I created a folder-hook file which contains:
  folder-hook =MailingLists.Mutt source ~/.mutt/maillist

  ~/.mutt/maillist contains push collapse-all and set sort=thread

  The Mutt folder collapses, so this works.

 what about the sorting then?  does it work or not?

Yeah that works

  If a add another folder-hook =MailingLists.Mutt.Archive
  ~/.mutt/maillist then the Archive folder doesn't collapse.

 your hook is missing the source command.

I know, I mistyped it. This is how I am running it now:

### folder-hooks
folder-hook =MailingLists   source ~/.mutt/defaults.maillist

### defaults.maillist
source ~/.mutt/defaults.global
set sort=threads
folder-hook =MailingLists push collapse-all (this works, eg,
entering MailingLists.Mutt collapses all threads)
folder-hook =MailingLists.Mutt.Archive push collapse-all (this
doesn't work, threads don't get collapsed)
my_hdr From: list-account

### defaults.global
this file only unsets the my_hdr's and adds some default my_hdr's

-- 

D.J. Bolderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Kurt Lieber

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 02:55:53PM +0200 or thereabouts, Sven Guckes wrote:
  Now if the only reason Reply-To is not honored is the configuration
  of the one's MUA that's answering me, I have to accept that.
  But if there is _another reason_ for this and
  I can do something about it, I'd just like to know...
 
 if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
 the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.

He was asking if there were other headers that other MUAs used instead of
Reply-To.  Presumably, Mutt could then be configured to add those *in
addition to* the normal Reply-To header.  IMO, perfectly on topic and a
subject which I'm interested in learning more about as well.

--kurt



Open a formular when sending mail to a special address

2002-10-03 Thread Oliver Fuchs

Hi,

I often have to send mails to a address (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I always
use a pattern file loaded via vim.

Can I please mutt to open this file when i mail to a/this special address?

Example:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug Rogers

And then mutt should open my pattern file with vim
/home/me/pattern.file.

Oliver
-- 
GeRo GeRo GeRo GeRo GeRo-Pee
My heart is on Mars
My heart is on Mars
Planet Heart



configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically

2002-10-03 Thread Neal Norwitz

I am trying to configure mutt to see if it's useful.  I've got most
things working ok, except I can't get mutt to automatically get mail
via POP3 every minute.  I've googled and searched mutt.org/doc and the faq.

mutt works fine when I press G to fetch mail.  But mutt won't go out
and get mail by itself.  I have set the pop_reconnect and
pop_checkinterval to no avail.

I am using version 1.4.

Any help would be appreciated.  Please cc me, as I'm not on the mailling list.

Thanks,
Neal




Module to add mailinglist-names from the header in .muttrc

2002-10-03 Thread Oliver Fuchs

Hi,

I found these days that there is a procmail-module which can do the
following:

o   *pm-jalist.rc* -- Subroutine to extract mailing list name from
message. Do you need to add new recipe to your .procmailrc
every time you subscribe to new mailing list? If you do,
take a look at this module, which examines the message and
defines variable `LIST' to hold the mailing list name. You
can use it directly to save the messages adaptively to
correct folders. No more hand work and manual storing
of mailing list messages.

Is there something similar no more hand work for/in mutt?

Example:
Extract the mailing-list address from the header, add it in .muttrc to
the mailbox and the list/subscribe feature?

Oliver
-- 
GeRo GeRo GeRo GeRo GeRo-Pee
My heart is on Mars
My heart is on Mars
Planet Heart



Re: Local Mail Question

2002-10-03 Thread rparker1

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 06:54]:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-02 21:27]:
  My logon name, rdp, differs from my POP3/SMTP mail name,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My problem is that if I try using mutt to send
  email to rdp locally, my send folder shows the To: as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
  I never get the local mail.  How can I get around this.
 
 hints:
 
   set alternates=rdp|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   set index_format=...%L...

This takes care of mutt recognizing mail to either of these addresses as
being mine.  However, a little more testing shows that any unqualified
address I use for the To: that is not a valid alias has @kc.rr.com
appended to it. So, if in VIM I see:
...
To: local-account
...

Then, as soon as I save the message and get back to mutt I see:
...
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

I hope this clarifies the problem a little.  How do I suppress this?

 delivery of local email depends on the MTA setup.
 this is *not* a mutt problem then.

If I could get mutt to stop appending the @kc.rr.com and the mail still
does not come through, then this would be true.



starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Mike Arrison


--huq684BweRXVnRxX
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Howdy Mutters,=20
I've been off the list for awhile, but I'm happy to be back. Anyway,
my issue du jour is gpg. I've read a bunch of faq about setting it
up, and I think I've got it. I have a public key (ID ABFAFC30)
published and I can sign and encrypt messages just fine.

My question comes to receiving signed messages. When I get an email
from someone who is not on my keyring Mutt says that the signature
cannot be verified. I was hoping that it would automatically go out
to the key server and retreive the key. Is that possible? Is it good
practice? Doing a manual gpg --rece-key KEYID works, but I'd
rather something more automatic.

   Thanks in advance,
  Mike Arrison

P.S. Does my signature on this email look right?

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Content-Disposition: inline

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Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)

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vAj+ZRM17bMwgLMwzQZCHvQ=
=tXYe
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

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Re: Open a formular when sending mail to a special address

2002-10-03 Thread René Clerc

* Oliver Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 17:12]:

 I often have to send mails to a address (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I always
 use a pattern file loaded via vim.
 
 Can I please mutt to open this file when i mail to a/this special address?
 
 Example:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Bug Rogers
 
 And then mutt should open my pattern file with vim
 /home/me/pattern.file.

send-hook ~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]  set editor='vim -u /home/me/pattern.file'

(not tested)

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Retteb sif lahd, noces ehttub, but the second half is better.
-A palindrome



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Re: Open a formular when sending mail to a special address

2002-10-03 Thread Gregory Seidman

Oliver Fuchs sez:
} Hi,
} 
} I often have to send mails to a address (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I always
} use a pattern file loaded via vim.
} 
} Can I please mutt to open this file when i mail to a/this special address?
} 
} Example:
} To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
} Subject: Bug Rogers
} 
} And then mutt should open my pattern file with vim
} /home/me/pattern.file.

Figure out what sort of pattern you want to use, first of all. It looks
like you want to match the recipient. Then use a send-hook on that
pattern to set your editor slightly differently. For example:

send-hook '.' 'set editor=vim'
send-hook '~C bug@' 'set editor=vim +\\\$r ~/bugpatternfile\'

(You may have to check on the backslash-quoting of the $.)

} Oliver
--Greg




Re: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically

2002-10-03 Thread René Clerc

* Neal Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 17:22]:

 mutt works fine when I press G to fetch mail.  But mutt won't go out
 and get mail by itself.  I have set the pop_reconnect and
 pop_checkinterval to no avail.

From TFM:
If you only need to fetch all messages to local mailbox you should
consider using a specialized program, such as fetchmail

 I am using version 1.4.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  Please cc me, as I'm not on the
 mailling list.

echo lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ~/.muttrc

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.
-Canada Bill Jones



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Re: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically

2002-10-03 Thread Michael Tatge

Neal Norwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 I am trying to configure mutt to see if it's useful.  I've got most
 things working ok, except I can't get mutt to automatically get mail
 via POP3 every minute.  I've googled and searched mutt.org/doc and the faq.
 
 mutt works fine when I press G to fetch mail.  But mutt won't go out
 and get mail by itself.  I have set the pop_reconnect and
 pop_checkinterval to no avail.

You may want to check out fetchmail since mutt's pop support is well
kinda basic :)

HTH,

Michael
-- 
...and scantily clad females, of course.  Who cares if it's below zero
outside
(By Linus Torvalds)

PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key



Re: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Lillack

Neal Norwitz wrote:

 I am trying to configure mutt to see if it's useful.  I've
 got most  things working  ok, except I  can't get  mutt to
 automatically  get  mail  via  POP3  every  minute.   I've
 googled and searched mutt.org/doc and the faq.

Even though it should be possible to achive such behaviour I
stronlgy suggest you to try out `fetchmail'.

Rob.
-- 
r o b e r t | l i l l a c k
www.lillaxsitedesign.de/rob
secure mail key: 0xE7FFDF77



Re: Local Mail Question

2002-10-03 Thread Rafael C. Gawenda

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 10:26 (08:42:38)]

 Then, as soon as I save the message and get back to mutt I see:
   ...
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ...

 I hope this clarifies the problem a little.  How do I suppress this?

 If I could get mutt to stop appending the @kc.rr.com and the mail still
 does not come through, then this would be true.

Well, use vim capabilities to do this...  using the comand id
local-account, will return 0 or 1 depending on the existence of
local-account.
I don't have the time to set it up for you right now, but check
vim filetypes and autocmds:

augroup MuttMailMessages
  au!
  au BufRead mutt*[0-9] source ~/.vimail/IN
  au BufWrite mutt*p0-9] source ~/.vimail/OUT
augroup END
(excerpt from my ~/.vimrc)

-- 
Rafael C. Gawenda
 2:346/7.549@fidonet
Registered LiNUX user #93375


You can't assign IP address 127.0.0.1 to the loopback adapter,
because it is a reserved address for loopback devices (Microsoft
Windows XP - P R O F E S S I O N A L)



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Re: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically

2002-10-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 the mental interface of 
Neal Norwitz told:

 I am trying to configure mutt to see if it's useful.  I've got
 most things working ok, except I can't get mutt to automatically
 get mail via POP3 every minute.  I've googled and searched
 mutt.org/doc and the faq.

To use pop via mutt is not recommended. Try fetchmail to fetch mail
from your isp account! procmail will sort the mails into your
folders!

Ciao

Elimar


-- 
  On the keyboard of life you have always
  to keep a finger at the escape key;-)



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Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 the mental interface of 
Mike Arrison told:

 Howdy Mutters, I've been off the list for awhile, but I'm happy to
 be back. Anyway, my issue du jour is gpg. I've read a bunch of faq
 about setting it up, and I think I've got it. I have a public key
 (ID ABFAFC30) published and I can sign and encrypt messages just
 fine.
 
 My question comes to receiving signed messages. When I get an
 email from someone who is not on my keyring Mutt says that the
 signature cannot be verified. I was hoping that it would
 automatically go out to the key server and retreive the key.
 Is that possible? Is it good practice? Doing a manual gpg
 --rece-key KEYID works, but I'd rather something more
 automatic.

source gpg.rc from your mutt doc dir in your muttrc. You can check
the all commands in the manual. Nothing need to be handworked on
that file;-)

HTH

-- 
  It's a good thing we don't get all 
  the government we pay for.



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Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Burton Samograd

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:27:34AM -0400, Mike Arrison wrote:
 
 My question comes to receiving signed messages. When I get an email
 from someone who is not on my keyring Mutt says that the signature
 cannot be verified. I was hoping that it would automatically go out
 to the key server and retreive the key. Is that possible? Is it good
 practice? Doing a manual gpg --rece-key KEYID works, but I'd
 rather something more automatic.
 
Thanks in advance,
   Mike Arrison
 
 P.S. Does my signature on this email look right?

Try this in your muttrc.  Works fine for me when the person has the key
published at the keyserver i'm using.

set pgp_getkeys_command=gpg --recv-keys %r 2 /dev/null

burton



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Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Hanspeter Roth

  On Oct 03 at 10:20, Kurt Lieber spoke:

 He was asking if there were other headers that other MUAs used instead of
 Reply-To.  Presumably, Mutt could then be configured to add those *in
 addition to* the normal Reply-To header.  IMO, perfectly on topic and a
 subject which I'm interested in learning more about as well.

The problem is probably this is off-topic here.
I just thought I can do without having to search a good
newsreader...

-Hanspeter



Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread René Clerc

* Burton Samograd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 19:53]:

 Try this in your muttrc.  Works fine for me when the person has the key
 published at the keyserver i'm using.
 
 set pgp_getkeys_command=gpg --recv-keys %r 2 /dev/null

Sigh. gpg can do that _for_ you...

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Retteb sif lahd, noces ehttub, but the second half is better.
-A palindrome



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Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 the mental interface of 
Burton Samograd told:

 On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:27:34AM -0400, Mike Arrison wrote:
  
  My question comes to receiving signed messages. When I get an email
  from someone who is not on my keyring Mutt says that the signature
  cannot be verified. I was hoping that it would automatically go out
  to the key server and retreive the key. Is that possible? Is it good
  practice? Doing a manual gpg --rece-key KEYID works, but I'd
  rather something more automatic.
  
 Thanks in advance,
Mike Arrison
  
  P.S. Does my signature on this email look right?
 
 Try this in your muttrc.  Works fine for me when the person has the key
 published at the keyserver i'm using.
 
 set pgp_getkeys_command=gpg --recv-keys %r 2 /dev/null

Not needed! I checked my muttrc for something like gpg --recv and
all is commented out. My keyreceive works from my ~/.gnupg/options:

keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve include-disabled include-revoked

This works for gnupg 1.07 and 1.2. I remember in gnupg 1.06 it must
be recv-keys as a single option.

-- 
  On the keyboard of life you have always
  to keep a finger at the escape key;-)



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Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Burton Samograd

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:19:15PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

 Not needed! I checked my muttrc for something like gpg --recv and
 all is commented out. My keyreceive works from my ~/.gnupg/options:
 
 keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve include-disabled include-revoked
 
 This works for gnupg 1.07 and 1.2. I remember in gnupg 1.06 it must
 be recv-keys as a single option.

Ah yes, I forgot about adding that part to the configuration file.
Thanks for pointing it out, since that was the one snag I had with
getting the key retrieval to work.

-- 
burton



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Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Mike Arrison


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  On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:27:34AM -0400, Mike Arrison wrote:
  =20
   My question comes to receiving signed messages. When I get an ema=
il
   from someone who is not on my keyring Mutt says that the signature
   cannot be verified. I was hoping that it would automatically go o=
ut
   to the key server and retreive the key. Is that possible? Is it g=
ood
   practice? Doing a manual gpg --rece-key KEYID works, but I'd
   rather something more automatic.
=20
 Not needed! I checked my muttrc for something like gpg --recv and
 all is commented out. My keyreceive works from my ~/.gnupg/options:
=20
 keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve include-disabled include-revoked

We have a winner.  This is the line that worked for me in gnupg 1.07.
Thanks for all the help.

-Mike Arrison



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Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Hanspeter Roth

  On Oct 03 at 14:55, Sven Guckes spoke:

 if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
 the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.

Is there a mailgateway for comp.mail.misc or comp.mail.headers?

Which newsreader is most similar to mutt?

-Hanspeter




Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 the mental interface of 
Hanspeter Roth told:

   On Oct 03 at 14:55, Sven Guckes spoke:
 
  if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
  the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.
 
 Is there a mailgateway for comp.mail.misc or comp.mail.headers?
 
 Which newsreader is most similar to mutt?
slrn. Ask Sven ;-)

-- 
  Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
  Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
  There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)



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Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 19:58]:
   if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
   the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.
  Is there a mailgateway for comp.mail.misc or comp.mail.headers?

yes.  there are are several news services which offer an email gateway.

  Which newsreader is most similar to mutt?
 slrn. Ask Sven ;-)

if you are searching for a newsreader which uses strange header
lines then you should probably be using some M$ thingie..

Sven



Re: reply-to alternatives - comp.mail.misc

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 15:01]:
  if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
  the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.

 He was asking if there were other headers that other MUAs
 used instead of Reply-To.  Presumably, Mutt could then be
 configured to add those *in addition to* the normal
 Reply-To header.  IMO, perfectly on topic and a subject
 which I'm interested in learning more about as well.

this problem is still not specific to mutt at all.

it is a general question about email - and any mail
client which allows configuration of additional header
lines might or might not benefit from this.  anyway -
the proper forum is news:comp.mail.misc.  period.

Sven  [who might just be interested in this topic, too -
   but deifnitely *not* on the *mutt* mailing lists]



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 14:18]:
  so it is either your boss's problem or you
  are using a system you did not pay for?
 No. I want to read my private mail when I am at work.

then send me your boss's email address - and i think
we can talk about this problem of reading *personal*
email at *work* and even find a very easy solution..

 And I don't see it as a problem, it's just that I was
 curious if I could use the browser on my workstation.

you can let urlview spawn an arbitrary script.
the rest it up to you and the help desk of xp.

Sven



Re: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically - cron+fetchmail

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Neal Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 15:20]:
 version 1.4.  I am trying to configure mutt to see if it's useful.
 I've got most things working ok, except I can't get mutt to
 automatically get mail via POP3 every minute.

wrong tool.   - man crontab + man fetchmail

 mutt works fine when I press G to fetch mail.
 But mutt won't go out and get mail by itself.

feature.

 Any help would be appreciated.  Please cc me,
 as I'm not on the mailling list.

learn about the lists command then!  (see sig)

Sven

-- 
Sven Guckes   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
use lists address   when you are *not* subscribed
use subscribe address   when you   *are*   subscribed
- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread D. J. Bolderman

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:

 * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 14:18]:
   so it is either your boss's problem or you
   are using a system you did not pay for?
  No. I want to read my private mail when I am at work.

 then send me your boss's email address - and i think
 we can talk about this problem of reading *personal*
 email at *work* and even find a very easy solution..

WTF is your problem dude...

  And I don't see it as a problem, it's just that I was
  curious if I could use the browser on my workstation.

 you can let urlview spawn an arbitrary script.
 the rest it up to you and the help desk of xp.

 Sven

-- 

D.J. Bolderman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Lars Heiermann

* Sven Guckes:
 * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 14:18]:
   so it is either your boss's problem or you
   are using a system you did not pay for?
  No. I want to read my private mail when I am at work.
 
 then send me your boss's email address - and i think
 we can talk about this problem of reading *personal*
 email at *work* and even find a very easy solution..

This seems to get a bit offtopic but: 

Even if you cannot imagine this, there are actually people who are
explicitly allowed to do such things at work :-).

Currently at work (yes on a 'holiday' *and* at this time) and reading
his private mail,

Lars



Reading news with Mutt (was: reply-to alternatives)

2002-10-03 Thread rex

On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 at 07:09:37PM +0200, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
 
 Which newsreader is most similar to mutt?

Mutt with a NNTP patch. Here's one that doesn't require any external programs:

http://www.ing.umu.se/~connor/programs/mutt.html

Regards,

-rex
-- 
The actual user of the PC -- someone who can do anything they want --
 is the enemy.
- David Aucsmith, Intel security
 http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/8/ns-7129.html



List Charter?

2002-10-03 Thread Kurt Lieber

Is there a list charter anywhere for mutt-users?  The majordomo info was
less than helpful (see mutt.org for info)

It seems like the focus for this list is decidedly more narrow than is the
norm for most other lists...

--kurt



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 23:13]:
  No. I want to read my private mail when I am at work.
 then send me your boss's email address - and i think
 we can talk about this problem of reading *personal*
 email at *work* and even find a very easy solution..
 
  And I don't see it as a problem, it's just that I was
  curious if I could use the browser on my workstation.
 you can let urlview spawn an arbitrary script.
 the rest it up to you and the help desk of xp.

I'd love to buy Sven a beer if we ever meet, but would that be safe?

Bob



Re: List Charter?

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Ian Smit

* Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-10-2002 00:27]:
 Is there a list charter anywhere for mutt-users?  The majordomo info was
 less than helpful (see mutt.org for info)
 
 It seems like the focus for this list is decidedly more narrow than is the
 norm for most other lists...

What does this have to do with _mutt_?

;-)

Bob



Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview - microsoft.public.windowsxp.*

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 21:20]:
 On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:
  * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 14:18]:
   I want to read my private mail when I am at work.
  then send me your boss's email address - and i think
  we can talk about this problem of reading *personal*
  email at *work* and even find a very easy solution..

 WTF is your problem dude...

solving *your* problem?

possible solutions:
(1) read your personal mail from home.
(2) read your personal with some other mail client.
(3) read your personal on another system.

you might be able to switch the system and/or the client
at work.  and i suppose you have full flexibility
to use whatever system at home.  unix or not.
and there are public systems with shell accounts.

my point:  this is *not* a _mutt_ problem.
mutt problems can be solved by installing
it differently in the first place or
by changing its configuration files.

you might also get a solution by installing
another program - but then it is usually a
problem of installing and configuring that.

however:
using windows xp at work with mutt is
just a workaround to the real problem.

so do not make it a mutt problem just because
you see mutt on windowsxp as the only solution.

opening the browser is *not* a mutt problem.
on unixes this problem is left to urlview.

SecureCRT was mentioned as *one* solution as an
interface to the browser. did you try that yet?

besides, i do not think that the work place
is supposed to give internet access to
employess for reading their personal email.
but if your boss agrees to that - fine!

now, maybe you can ask your boss to allow a
pc to run some kind of free unix system with
elm, mutt, mush, nail, or pine for reading mail.
or maybe just open ssh for outbound connections.

then again, this might clash with security and
the fire wall of the company.  it all depends.

usually the best solution is the one used at home.

so you are looking for better ways to start the browser?  fine.
make urlview start some script then which accesses the browser.
this might be a script in some ported shell or window's shell.
but the script will run on windows, so it certainly won't
be a mutt config script.  this is not mutt any more.
therefore it is not a mutt problem.  see?

think differently.  the solution is elsewhere.
and discussing further problems resulting
from this can be discussed elsewhere, too.

such scripts can be the solution which can be used
by a helper application to mutt - but they do not
solve a problem with mutt itself.

i certainly welcome solutions such like these scripts,
esp on some webpage - and i will also link to these.

but the discussion of such problems which cannot be
solved by changing mutt's configuration files *only*
should probably be discussed elsewhere - and not here.

discussing the configuration of urlview might still
be on topic here (depending on your definition) -
but scripting windowsxp is definitely not on topic.

remember:
mutt is *not* a browser interface.
and it is *not* a shell, either.

that's what i am pointing out.
i hope you can deal with that.

now, there are many newsgroups
on the microsoft news server.
i'll attach a list for you.

these groups *might* be appropriate
to configure your windowsxp:

  microsoft.public.windowsxp.configuration_manage
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely

i do not claim to know whether these
newsgroups can really help you -
but then again M$ does not pay me
for solving your windowsxp problem.

your problem is an windowsxp problem.
or maybe it is a problem with your
computers available at work.
but these are not on topic here.

still, i hope that the list of newsgroups
can help you find people with knowledge
about windowsxp scripting and access to the
browsers used on that system.  good luck!

Sven


newsgroups about windows xp on news.fu-berlin.de on 2002-10-04:

elt.os.windows-xp Microsoft Windows XP operating system.
alt.os.windows.xp
alt.windows-xp
cn.comp.os.winxp  Windows XP²Ù×÷ϵͳ
fido7.ru.windows.xp   Fidonet RU.WINDOWS.XP (Moderated)
fido7.ru.windows.xp.chainik   Fidonet RU.WINDOWS.XP.CHAINIK (Moderated)
fj.os.ms-windows.xp   Discussion about the Windows XP operating system.
it.comp.os.win.xp Microsoft Windows XP
japan.comp.windows-xp Topics on Microsoft Windows XP.
swnet.sys.windows-xp  Allt om datorsystem med MS Windows XP.

microsoft.public.cn.windowsxp

microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.active.directory
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.applications
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.dns
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.gruppen.richtlinien
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.hardware
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.multimedia
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.networking
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.ras

Re: List Charter? - www.guckes.net/mutt/mail.php3

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 22:23]:
 Is there a list charter anywhere for mutt-users?  The
 majordomo info was less than helpful (see mutt.org for info)

try http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/mail.php3#etiquette

i have put together a bit of info about these topic:
attachments, bug reports, crossposts,
from line, signatures, and top posts.
feedback welcome - as usual.

 It seems like the focus for this list is decidedly
 more narrow than is the norm for most other lists...

not everything is appropriate
for the mutt lists.

the mutt lists are not the only
sources of info.  there are many
web pages (including the manual
and the faq) and there is also
usenet with its many newsgroups.

of course there is comp.mail.mutt -
but there is  also comp.mail.misc.

Sven



RE: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically - cron+fetchmail

2002-10-03 Thread John Haviland

I use mutt to get mail off a pop server:

Use the -f option to specify mailbox and -e startup options, run the whole
thing from the command line:

mutt -f pop://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -e 'push somestrings'

This will work but only if executed from a tty. If you are trying to do this
from cron then you will have to assign stdin from some valid tty. Assigning
a static tty works for me as long you quit out of mutt in the -e command.

Previous advice on fetchmail is very valid. You would want to have a very
good reason for doing the above.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Sven Guckes
Sent: Friday, 4 October 2002 07:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: configuring POP to retrieve mail periodically -
cron+fetchmail


* Neal Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 15:20]:
 version 1.4.  I am trying to configure mutt to see if it's useful.
 I've got most things working ok, except I can't get mutt to
 automatically get mail via POP3 every minute.

wrong tool.   - man crontab + man fetchmail

 mutt works fine when I press G to fetch mail.
 But mutt won't go out and get mail by itself.

feature.

 Any help would be appreciated.  Please cc me,
 as I'm not on the mailling list.

learn about the lists command then!  (see sig)

Sven

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Re: Help on forward - macro+source+forward

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Pascal Brugier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 02:55]:
 I have many folders managed by Procmail and Mutt, I've a
 particular one in which i received mails with always the same
 subject:
 Eepdate: FQDN machine name

 When i forward this mail i want to always forward it to the same
 recipient and if possible always have the same body in the
 forwarded mail. example:

 Forwarded body

 added body

 I tried with send-hook but i cant obtain
 what i want, perhaps it my fault.

hmm... there is no such thing as a forward-hook -
but you can use a macro to forward the current message
to some address, and then some send-hook can be applied
to source a setup file which contains the necessary settings:

  macro index ~~ forward-message...

the following steps require the knwowledge of the prompts
that follow - and thus it depends on your current setup.
you might want to source the special setup file first
to make sure about the current settings.

  macro index ~~ :source filename\nforward-message...

the solution depends on what you really want.
as soon as you know eaxtly you can tell us.
then we can help further.

Sven



Re: send-hook and copy - extra copy via BCC

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 00:44]:
 Whenever I send an email with a particular subject line,
 I'd like to not only save a copy to =outbox like always,
 but I'd like to save an additional copy to another folder.
 How would I specify the send-hook for that?

only one copy per sent message.  sorry.
usual woraround:  BCC yourself and let
your filter take care of the xtra copy.
(faq by now - somewhat.)

Sven



Re: mutt -Z question

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Robin Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 07:37]:
 I have a lot of Maildir folders that procmail sorts my
 incoming email into. However, not all of them get mail on a
 daily basis.  Presently to check all of my email, I run mutt
 -Z repeatedly to go thru all of the folders to find my new
 mail. However, with the growing size of some of the mailing
 list folders, it is taking a long time to do this. So I was
 wondering, is there any way I can trigger the same action as
 the -Z from within mutt instead of having to quit out again?

  c TAB TAB TAB

 Please reply to my email address directly as I am not a list subscriber.

add this to your mutt setup then:
lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sven



email gateway to usenet

2002-10-03 Thread Hanspeter Roth

  On Oct 03 at 22:53, Sven Guckes spoke:

 yes.  there are are several news services which offer an email gateway.

Any suggestions?

-Hanspeter




Re: Module to add mailinglist-names from the header in .muttrc

2002-10-03 Thread Sven Guckes

* Oliver Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 15:29]:
 Is there something similar no more hand work for/in mutt?
 Example: Extract the mailing-list address from the header, add
 it in .muttrc to the mailbox and the list/subscribe feature?

  macro index ~~ grep ...  $HOME/.muttrc

homework:  fill in the dots.

Sven




Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Will Yardley

Nancy McGough wrote:
[ Hi Nancy ]
 On 3 Oct 2002 D. J. Bolderman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Well never mind, I'll just copy the address in my
 browser then.

 Some ssh clients support this. For example SecureCRT, which you
 can get here
 
  http://vandyke.com/
 
 has this feature. You just right click anywhere on a URL and
 choose Open URL and it will be opened in your local Windows
 browser. I discuss this and others in the SSH section of my main
 Pine page:

There's at least one X terminal emulator that can do this as well -
powershell. I don't think it's the greatest program, but it does do
this.

http://powershell.sourceforge.net/ 

It requires GTK 1.2 and some gnome-libs...

Not sure if any other terminal emulators for X have this feature.

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william  @ hq . newdream . net . 




Re: reply-to alternatives

2002-10-03 Thread Will Yardley

Hanspeter Roth wrote:
   On Oct 03 at 14:55, Sven Guckes spoke:
 
 if the reason is *anotehr MUA then this is *not*
 the forum to discuss it.  comp.mail.misc exists.

 Is there a mailgateway for comp.mail.misc or comp.mail.headers?
 
 Which newsreader is most similar to mutt?

As a mutt-user (and someone without a whole lot of time on Usenet), I
found slrn pretty easy to adapt to... and it has really good scoring as
well.

You might also have a look at tin.

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william   hq . newdream . net . 




Problems using mutt w/ SSH and preconnect

2002-10-03 Thread Kurt Lieber

I'm using mutt to access three different accounts via IMAP over an SSH
tunnel.  Because I have three separate accounts (on two different servers),
I'm using three different preconnect strings and three different ssh
tunnels.  Here's an example of one:

#tunnel over ssh
unset preconnect
set preconnect=ssh -f -C -q -L 1432:mail.myserver.com:143 \
mail.myserver.com sleep 5

The other tunnels are on 1430 and 1431, in case that matters.  This works
great, for the most part.  However, when switching back and forth between
mailboxes (via a macro), I will get an error message in mutt saying,
Connection to localhost closed.  I can switch back to the account from
which I just came, but I have to restart mutt to be able to get into any
other accounts.

When this problem occurs, if I suspend mutt and telnet to localhost:1432, I
get a response from the IMAP server, just like I'd expect, so the ssh
tunnel is still there and working fine.  Thus, I think this is a mutt
problem.  I've tried increasing the sleep 5 value, even though I doubt
that's the problem.  I'm not sure what else to try.

I cannot reliably reproduce this problem, but it seems to be related to
long periods of inactvity on an account.  However, I've left an account
for 45 minutes at a time, come back and accessed it just fine, while other
times, I can't access the account after 15 minutes of inactivity.  In each
and every case, however, when I've tried telnetting to the local tunnel
port, I've *always* received a response from the imap server.  

Any suggestions?

--kurt



Re: starting out with gpg

2002-10-03 Thread Mike Leone

* Elimar Riesebieter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 10 03, 02 at 
14:36: 
 
 Not needed! I checked my muttrc for something like gpg --recv and
 all is commented out. My keyreceive works from my ~/.gnupg/options:
 
 keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve include-disabled include-revoked
 
 This works for gnupg 1.07 and 1.2. I remember in gnupg 1.06 it must
 be recv-keys as a single option.

Gives you a really huge keyring, too, with these all these keys from
strangers. :-)



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Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview

2002-10-03 Thread Andre Berger


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* Robert Ian Smit [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-10-03 07:45 -0400:
 * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 02:25]:
  Subject says it all: if I'm using Mutt over an ssh connection, how can I
  execute http links in mails ? Or is this simply not possible ?
=20
 By executing http links you mean starting a graphical browser?
=20
 Don't know how to do that, but perhaps using a text browser like
 lynx or w3m can help you here.
=20
 Bob

That's how I do it (Win2000/putty connecting to a Debian 3.0 woody
box via ssh). urlview plus w3m. My /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh on the
Debian box:

[snip]
http_prgs=3D/usr/bin/X11/opera:PW /usr/bin/w3m:XT=20
[snip]

plus the mutt setting

macro index \cb |urlview\n 'Extrahiere Links (call urlview to extract URLs =
out of a message)'
macro pager \cb |urlview\n 'Extrahiere Links (call urlview to extract URLs =
out of a message)'

and hitting Ctrl b in a message.


Alternatively you could you use links version 2; both w3m and links
support ssl and pictures!, but none of them JavaScript (at least to
my best knowledge). Netrik is said to support JavaScript but thinks
my HTML 4.01 validated pages contain too many errors to be displayed
at all. Maybe a later version will is more forgiving to valid HTML :)

-Andre

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macros and folder changing

2002-10-03 Thread Cayenne Boyer

Hi-

I'm wondering if it's possible to define a macro to switch to a
particular folder, and if so, how.

Thanks,
Cayenne



Re: macros and folder changing

2002-10-03 Thread Michael Elkins

Cayenne Boyer wrote:
 I'm wondering if it's possible to define a macro to switch to a
 particular folder, and if so, how.

Sure:

macro index \e1 change-folder+one\n change to +one folder
macro index \e2 change-folder+two\n change to +two folder
macro index \e3 change-folder+three\n change to +three folder
macro index \e4 change-folder+four\n change to +four folder
macro index \e5 change-folder+five\n change to +five folder

If you have some options set which ask you questions, you might need to
adjust them to get this to work in all cases.



Re: macros and folder changing

2002-10-03 Thread Cayenne Boyer

Thanks.  The brackets were what I needed.

Does anyone know of somewhere that explains things like that?  I can
find terse overviews (the manual), careful instructions on how to do
simpler things, and a plethora of examples.  Examples are nice, but so
are explanations.  Is there anywhere that someone has written
something that contains for example more than half a sentance on what
angle brackets do, or at least a clear half a sentance geared towards
people new to muttrc files?

-Cayenne