Re: OT: "domain-level" email hosting services?

2021-10-22 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 08:43:02PM -0400, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote:

I've always just run my own (Linux) email server locally in my home
office, but my current Internet service is soon going to be going away
and I was wondering if it would make sense to move to some sort of
mail-hosting company as part of reorganizing my network setup.

So on the theory that there are likely to be other users of advanced
email-server functionality among the Mutt folks, I thought I would ask
here to see if anyone has recommendations for mail hosting services that
target neither "consumer" nor "enterprise" clients, but somewhere in the
middle (and which play nicely with Mutt and other IMAP clients)?

For example, a service that allows unlimited "aliases" for a set of
domains, pointing to a handful of "user mailboxes" which actually
receive email?

Or alternatively some service that queues incoming Internet mail for my
domains and then allows the queued email to be fetched by my local mail
server for local delivery (thus avoiding having an open SMTP port on my
home connection to the Internet)?

(I currently host a few domains and deliver mail to ~5 users via hundreds
of aliases)

Thanks for any ideas I should consider.




Take advantage of hosting sales (such as Hostgator currently is running)
and set up a mail system on a shared host.  Cheap and reliable; a wealth of
features, but easy to set up.  

Then use getmail to download mail to your local machine where you run Mutt.  


RLH


--
How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight,
except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?
- Deuteronomy 32:30



Re: simple formatting possibilities

2020-08-27 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 07:00:52AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:

I would expect something of the sort exists for the bridge
community.


A search on "portable game notation for bridge" brings up numerous
hits; at first glance, this hit appears to be promising and
authoritative:

http://82.95.226.114/dokuwiki/doku.php/bridge/pbn



Re: simple formatting possibilities

2020-08-27 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 01:40:08AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:

Both a friend and I organize weekly online bridge games for
20-30 players.  My seating notices go out as simple text.  He

...

I don't like the attachment approach but the formatting (minimal,
bold, alignment,?) he uses and the 2 column arrangement would be useful.

...

Is there anything I could use to create such "formated text", then
distribute it in the body of a mutt message having some hope that
the recipients see it correctly?


I know nothing about bridge, but years ago, when there was such a
thing as a newspaper, I always looked at the chess column, which
appeared on the same page as the bridge column.  The chess column
typically presented a puzzle, in the form of a graphical diagram.  I
seem to recall seeing something similar in the bridge column.  As I
recall, there is a LaTeX package for drawing a chess diagram, so I
would expect there also is a LaTeX package for drawing a bridge
diagram.

Also, the chess community long ago developed a simple standard called
"Portable Game Notation" (PGN) which facilitates
postal-chess-via-email as well as capture, transmittal, and analysis
of games, either in-progress or complete.  Computer chess packages
typically read and write PGN files, some even automatically extract
PGN from email messages.  Again, I would expect something of the sort
exists for the bridge community.

RLH


Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-07 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:23:34PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:

Sorry, but this is an archaic way of looking at the problem.  People
have been doing this for decades now, has become the norm, common
practice, and really it is therefore WE who are being inconsiderate by
not accepting de facto standards that have been widely adopted for a
very long time.


Still, there is a limit as to practices which should be tolerated.

To me, the great advantage of email is that it allows both me and
those with whom I am corresponding to read and to reply at times which
are convenient for each of us, though those times may not be
coincident.  Some are morning people; I am a nightowl.

One of the parties with whom I was corresponding by email is a
physician who receives urgent calls day and night on his cellular
phone.  Years ago (before the smartphone became ubiquitous) his
well-meaning but not-so-bright daughter configured his mail client to
ring his cellular phone whenever a email arrives.  Not long after, I
received an angry phone call from his wife, complaining that a
conversational email which I sent off at 2am or 3am awakened them.  


The fact that someone is so stupid or so arrogant as not to secure a
telephone number and an email address reserved for vital matters
should not force me to look at the clock or consider time zones before
composing and sending messages by email.  Nor should it be necessary
for me to accommodate the smartphone by limiting the length messages I
compose.  Similar considerations appertain to the practice of
top-posting in a message thread.

It is wrong to allow caprice on the part of the stupid and the
ignorant to overthrow good traditions and good practices which have
developed over the years.

RLH



Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 12:19:58PM -0600, Akkana Peck wrote:

This happens for two reasons:
1. Mutt shows attachments at the bottom of a message, which was
reasonable in the days before everyone top-posted; but now I never
2. Calendar invites are often part of a MIME multipart/alternative:
I feel like I miss a lot in mail messages because mutt doesn't tell
me about attachments.


Rather than bastardize Mutt to accommodate mis-use of e-mail (using it
for generalized transport, rather than for communication) and
perversions such as top-posting, a proper approach is to have two
email addresses, and to run a different mail user agent for each.

The first address is for efficient communication with rational and
knowledgeable individuals; such communication is handled by Mutt.  The
second is for communication (which, regrettably, often is essential)
with fluff-heads and with entities of the corporate realm (which is
chained to M$); for this, use an agent such as Thunderbird.

The more needs accommodated, the fewer needs served well.

RLH



Re: [Mutt] Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 08:39:34AM +0200, steve wrote:

I can display images, read pdf's, etc??? but one thing I never managed to do is
open an html file containing images. I mean, I can send the html part to
firefox but the images don't follow.


With neomutt on Debian 9, ":exec bounce-message" forwards everything.


Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-04 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Sat Apr 04, 2020 at 09:41:59 +0200, Vegard Svanberg wrote:

However, I'm increasingly finding myself having to resort to various
tricks to deal with HTML only emails (with picture attachments),
calendar invites, and other oddities and awkward stuff people send.

I don't know how I would survive with a regular GUI client like
Thunderbird or Evolution. I've tried, but they all suck. Mutt's
keybindings, search and navigation features are irreplaceable.

Suggestions? What does everyone else do?


The solution I found was to create on the mail server an account for
"ugly mail", install Thunderbird on my main machine, and configure
Thunderbird to retrieve from the "uglymail" account; that way,
Thunderbird does not mess with my maildir structure.

Then, when, using Mutt, I encounter an uglymessage, I bounce it to the
uglymail account, with the command ":exec bounce-message".  Afterward,
I use Thunderbird to view or otherwise process the uglymessage and
attachments.

RLH


Re: forwarding in neomutt

2019-06-08 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 09:25:58AM -0500, Jason wrote:

Not ":f", just "f".

f  forward-message   forward a message with comments


"f" by itself moves the highlight one message up the list, whether I
am looking at the index or at a particular message.

This possibly could be a result of the "Dvorak Classic" keyboard
mapping which I utilize.  I seldom forward messages, except certain
categories of spam which I forward to the ABUSE mail address of my
hosting provider; with this in view, I also set "mime_forward" to
"yes", in order to send the original message complete with header.

RLH


Re: forwarding in neomutt

2019-06-08 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 03:03:42AM -0400, Xu Wang wrote:

Maybe have to type ":exec forward-message" ?


Yes; that works.  




If that does not work does it work if you press simplified "f"?


No; ":f" does not work.


I am grateful for your assistance, Xu.

RLH


forwarding in neomutt

2019-06-07 Thread Russell L. Harris

The "forward-message" command appears not to work in Debian 9
(Stretch, neomutt); when I type ": forward-message" on the Neo-Mutt
command line, the response is "forward-message:  unknown command".

Is neo-Mutt broken, or am I doing something wrong?


Re: Can I do this (should I do this) with Mutt?

2019-05-22 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 03:03:42PM +, John Long wrote:
...

1. Is it reasonable to use Mutt with many email accounts? I know you
probably can, but is it reasonable as in, is it manageable, is the
performance good enough on a midrange box. Usability stuff, like will
mutt automagically respond using the correct account (the account the
email I'm replying to was received by), is it clear when you compose
which account you're using. Etc.

2. I have around 100,000 emails right now between all my accounts. I
have one pop account because my ISP mail server doesn't support IMAP.
I use IMAP with all the rest. I like having the email on my box(es)
rather than leaving it on servers. Of the mailbox flavors, which is
appropriate for this volume of email?...and also for the let's say 200
a day I get between the various mailing lists I'm on.

3. I seem to remember that mutt didn't poll automagically for pop3 or
IMAP or both. Is that still true? Is there a way to get mutt to check
mail every 10 minutes, 15, etc. without middleware? I don't want to get
into fetchmail, getmail etc. I want the client to do it all.

...

Your third restriction is unreasonable; the logical end of letting the
client "do it all" is to remain with the GUI client from which you
wish to escape.

First, "maildir" is the proper choice for a mailbox structure,
irrespective of volume.

Using "cron" and "run-parts" to invoke "getmail", I check three POP
accounts (or IMAP) every few minutes, downloading directly to a
maildir on my (mid-range) machine any messages which have arrived.
Each time I switch from one account to another, Mutt notifies me of
new messages in the various accounts.

For getmail, each account (POP or IMAP) is configured separately and
runs independently of the others.  In my experience, getmail has
proved completely reliable.

At present, getmail delivers directly to a "maildir" structure, with a
separate maildir for each POP or IMAP account; but I need to take an
hour or two and configure "maildrop" to do a bit of sorting of the
messages.  Mutt allows me to choose the maildir from which to read
messages, and to switch between folders.

With a few thousand messages in each maildir, switching from one
account to another takes a few seconds.  Reduce the switching time by
categorizing your messages; configure getmail to hand off messages to
"maildrop" and configure maildrop to.

Fresh out-of-the-box, Mutt does not automatically switch the address
of outgoing messages when switching from one account to another for
reading; but that is the purpose of profiles in Mutt.  See, for
example (no endorsement):

https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/
my-number-one-reason-to-use-mutt-managing-multiple-profiles/


Re: Inbox folder doesn't work anymore

2019-05-07 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 08:00:56PM -0300, Luciano ES wrote:

I don't have any 'mailboxes' command in my .muttrc file. Not at all.
I have this:

set spoolfile="$HOME/Mail/inbox"

I have a few folder-hooks though, and they all point to subdirectories
of $HOME/Mail/inbox.


Your problem may be that your system is running on defaults of which
you are unaware, and that you need to use ".muttrc" to specify a few
locations.  


As I said, if you do not use "folder" to specify a base for your mail
repository, Mutt assumes the base is $HOME/Mail.

You need to read the Mutt manual (and possibly other sources) to
familiarize yourself with the typical usage of the following
directories, all of which, in your case, are in Mail: "mbox",
"postponed", "record", "spoolfile", "tmpdir".  Each has an intended
use.  And the path of each should specified with a "mailboxes" command.

In particular, "spoolfile" no longer serves the purpose it once did.
In modern Linux systems the Mail Transfer Agent (Exim4) commonly
delivers system-level messages to "spoolfile"; and some system
utilities expect the format of "spoolfile" to be Mbox rather than
Maildir.

I suggest that you add to ".muttrc" the line "mailboxes
$HOME/Mail/inbox" and specify "inbox" as "Maildir".

Also, if the Mutt configuration variable "move" is true, Mutt
automatically transfers a message from "spoolfile" to the location
specified by the Mutt configuration variable "mbox" once the message
has been read; this reduces clutter in "spoolfile".  Regrettably, Mutt
uses for this location variable the same name used for the format
"mbox"; this is a source of confusion.


Re: Inbox folder doesn't work anymore

2019-05-07 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:08:14AM -0300, Luciano ES wrote:

The problem is that the Inbox folder is empty. And it shouldn't be.
I can inspect that directory say, with a file manager, and it's loaded
with messages.


Check two things:

(1) The only maildirs or mboxes of which Mutt is aware are those which
are specified in .muttrc by the "mailboxes" command.

(2) The base of the maildir or mbox structure is specified by the
"folder" command.  If I recall correctly, Mutt assumes "~/Mail" if no
base is specified.



Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-09 Thread Russell L. Harris
* David Woodfall d...@dawoodfall.net [130210 00:45]:
 I've a few mailing lists where people don't send to the mailing list
 instead they CC it. In which case when I reply to the list mutt
 doesn't recognise it as a list and I have to do a normal reply and
 manually put in the mailing list address in the send field.
...
 I guess the other way is to nag people into using a proper email
 client :)

Please tell me if I am using the wrong command when attempting to
reply to a mail list regarding a message on the list.  I am running
Mutt on Debian Squeeze.

In order to reply to your message, I press g (for group reply),
and Mutt generates the following header pair:

To: David Woodfall d...@dawoodfall.net
Cc: mutt-users@mutt.org

Is there a command other than g which is appropriate when replying
to a group?

RH



Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au [121103 09:12]:
... 
   - anything else lands in my UNKNOWN folder; it is 99% spam
 I always sort that folder on subject when I visit it;
 it makes tossing it much easier because a lot of spam gets repeated
 in big chunks
...

Cameron,

I thank you for the detailed reply; I still am digesting it, and I
hope very soon to begin using the method which you described.

But your reply provided and unexpected and immediate benefit: I have
used Mutt for years, but I never knew that the index could be sorted.
I learned how through a quick search with Google for mutt sort
index, so now handling unknown mail is much easier.  Thanks!

RH


a concept for spam filter

2012-11-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
Has anyone devised a spam filtering into which an address and subject
line could be entered simply by pressing a key while viewing the mutt
index?

That way, whenever I go down the index pressing the d key to
mark spam items to be deleted, perhaps by pressing some other key I
could mark spam items to be both deleted and added to a spam filter,
so that neither the same sender nor the same subject line ever again
would clutter my screen.

RLH


Re: a concept for spam filter

2012-11-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net [121102 19:36]:
 
 I have set up macros that bind keys to pass messages to spamassassin
 using sa-learn and then puts the message into the spam mailbox. Is
 this the type thing you mean? The spam mailbox can later be used to
 train spamassassin for future filtering, using procmail.

Is the return path the true address of the sender?  If so, I would
like to blacklist such addresses.  The From: field shown in the
message index of Mutt almost always is rewritten -- sometimes to an
address from which valid messages may originate -- so I hesitate to
blacklist such addresses.

At present, I am using mailfilter to delete messages from the POP3
server of my ISP before download.  This helps greatly; but the
spammers keep changing subjects and addresses, so maintenance of the
.mailfilterrc file is becoming an unreasonable burden.

Then I am using getmail to download messages and maildrop to sort
them.

How much trouble is it to set up SpamAssassin for a setup such as
mine, in which cron is used to pull down messages every ten or fifteen
minutes?  Must I switch from getmail and maildrop to procmail?

Ultimately, the solution is to make spamming a crime for which the
punishment is a suspended sentence.

RLH




Re: name file?

2012-09-09 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Robert Holtzm hol...@cox.net [120908 22:07]:
 Running mutt 1.5.20-9+squee on squeeze (obviously). When I compose a
 message, the From header is as shown above which is incorrect. ~/.muttrc
 shows no option to set this. Somewhere there is a file with my full
 name. I remember typing it in when I installed the system but can't find
 it. I'm not even sure that's what mutt is reading. Running searches
 turns up little of use.
 
 I realize this is a noob question and I should know it cold, but at this 
 point I'm stuck. Any pointers appreciated.

The default name is set in the file .muttrc, using the following
line:

set realname='John Q. Smith'

You can use the alias file to change the address in the From: header,
in the event that you wish to reply from an address other than the
default address.  After backspacing to delete the default address, the
key combination Esc-f brings up the list of aliases, items of which
are of the form:

 alias yahoomail   jsmith...@yahoomail.com(John Q. Smith)
 alias googlemail  johnsmit...@googlemail.com (John Q. Smith)

Select the alias by typing in the alias (here, yahoomail or
googlemail), whereupon mutt places the corresponding address in the
From: header. 

This works also for the Bcc: and the To: headers.

The alias list resides in .muttrc.  Alternatively, the alias list
may be kept in a file such as ~/.mutt/alias which is sourced by
.muttrc; to do this, place a line such as the following in
.muttrc:

source ~/.mutt/alias

Of course, you can have any number of alias lists, such as
alias-business, alias-friends, alias-enemies, etc. -- something
of a set of addressbooks.

RLH


export maildir messages to text files

2012-08-22 Thread Russell L. Harris
For email, I run mutt and muttprint.

I have a directory of messages in maildir format.  I need to export
each message to a separate text file, so that the message may be
edited without the necessity of manually stripping away the message
header.

There is no need to preserve the data in the message header, other
than the sender, the recipient, the subject, and the date.

I think that the latex intermediate file produced by muttprint would
be ideal.  But after reading the muttprint manual and the muttprint
man page, I cannot figure out how to utilize muttprint for this
service.

Ideally, I would like to use a command similar to the following:

   $ muttprint --export-tex-file ~/mail/correspondence/cur/*

and end up with a .tex file for each message.

If necessary, I would be willing to use a solution which converts one
message at a time, but it would be preferable to be able to convert
all the messages in a maildir with a single command.

RLH



Re: Cc prompt when writing a new message

2011-02-22 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Patrice Clement charlier...@free.fr [110222 12:12]:
 Hi there
 
 I've been looking for a way to get a prompt to fill up the Cc: field when I
 want to write a new email. Currently, when I press m (you all know what the
 key-binding for m is :)), mutt asks me to whom I want to send the email and
 the subject of it. But no Cc: comes up. I looked through the documentation
 but couldn't find anything related to this.
 
 Any clue gentlemen ?
 
 Patrice

The opportunity for Cc: comes after the composition is complete and
the editor is closed with C-x C-#.  Then, pressing c brings up a Cc:
prompt at the bottom of the screen.

Also, at this point, the subject line may be altered by pressing s,
the to line, by pressing t, and the from line, by pressing ESC-f.

RLH


Re: Scalable mutt icon

2009-05-09 Thread Russell L. Harris

Malcolm Locke wrote:

Hi,

Searching the archives I couldn't find any scalable vector versions of
the lovely mutt icon.   He has been a faithful companion on my desktop
for many years but is now looking a bit shabby alongside his SVG
compatriots.

So I've used my questionable graphics skills to create a scalable
version, feel free to download the SVG or one of the pre scaled PNGs
for your own use.

  http://wholemeal.co.nz/~malc/mutt-logo/

Enjoy,

Malc




Thanks, Malcom!  A year or two ago I tried without much success to clean 
up the standard-issue icon, but I had little success.


RLH



Re: Mutt, multiple accounts problems

2008-10-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Kabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081002 16:07]:
 Hello,
 
 I'm not so new to mutt, and i really like it.
 I'm trying to make it work with multiple imaps  pop3 accounts, but I get a 
 lot of problems. So I would be pleased if someone could give me a tip. Even 
 after finding some example I didn't managed to make it work :S
 
 I'm completely lost now, I tried to make it work the whole day, and failed 
 miserably.
 So my last hope is this mailing list.
 Does somebody could show me his .muttrc where he's accessing more than one 
 mail server? I would be very happy for this help.
 
 Greetings,
 
 Kabel

Rather than trying to do everything with mutt, why not take advantage
of well-designed and easy to maintain special-purpose software?

For example, use getmail4 to fetch your mail, and maildrop to sort
messages.

RLH



Re: email chess

2008-09-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080906 04:56]:
 On 2008-09-06 10:52:56 +0200, Anders Karlsson wrote:
 
  IIRC, when I tried to do this a couple years back, I ended up
  with cmail and xboard as the docs in the package was enough to
  get me going relatively easy.
 
 I, too, distantly remember once having used xboard and cmail on
 Linux.  I don't think that it used any capabilities that Linux has
 lost over the past 10 years. ;-)

Thanks to the both of you for the response.  Yes, it appears that the
combination of xboard and cmail is the solution which I hoped to find.

While trying to get xboard launched with a reasonable board size (the
default was much too big for my screen), I noticed cmail in the xboard
documentation, but I didn't investigate, because I am using mutt.  But
now I'll read over the xboard documentation carefully and give cmail a
try.

RLH


email chess

2008-09-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
Years ago, running Window$, I used an application which automated the
process of playing chess via email.  I don't remember the details, but
an email with a chess game file (.pgn ?) would launch an application
similar to xboard, and the chess application would create a game file
(.pgn ?)  for mailing.  The automation did away with almost all of the
hassle.

Is there a Linux package (or perhaps an extension to mutt) which
facilitates playing chess via email?

Alternatively, is there a good HOWTO on email chess?

RLH



Re: Mail sends to all addresses except one

2008-05-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an i386 system.  I had difficulty
with mail delivery to one address because Exim4 was using the username
rather than the mailaccountname in mail addresses.  The Return-Path:
and envelope-from: headers read [EMAIL PROTECTED]  rather than
[EMAIL PROTECTED].  
-
However, the From: header (which is set by Mutt) read correctly
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

The solution was to add a one-line entry to the file
/etc/email-addresses:

rlh: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In other words:

username:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RLH


mutt puppy-dog icon

2008-04-10 Thread Russell L. Harris
The mutt puppy-dog icon which ships with the Debian system I just
installed is of very poor quality and looks rather shabby.

Where may I find an nice high-resolution mutt icon to use on the
desktop to launch mutt?

RLH


Re: How to erase already defined mailboxes ?

2008-03-28 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Vladimir Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080328 04:28]:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having many mailboxes receiving mail. Many mailinglists, so I'm
 getting mail all the time. It can get quite disturbing. I was thinking
 that I would define list of core mailboxes and list of all
 mailboxes. At the morning I would switch on all mailboxes and read
 everything. Then I would switch to core and I wouldn't be disturbed by
 not so important mails. During day I could switch back and forward
 between those. Can I achieve this without restarting mutt, ie. can I
 empty the currently defined mailboxes ?

A simple approach would be to use mail notification (aka
mailnotify) to alert you (via tone or icon) to the fact that mail
has come in to the core boxes.  When you move the mouse pointer to
the mailnotify icon, a temporary window opens, displaying the From
header and the Subject line of each unread message.

RLH


Re: Ideas for a Mutt demo

2007-11-15 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Joe Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071115 16:14]:
 On 13:43 Thu 15 Nov , Gary Johnson wrote:
  On 2007-11-15, Joe Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I need some ideas as to setting up a demo of Mutt for netphobic users.

As much as I love the efficiency of Mutt (and Gnus), they hardly seem
appropriate for anyone who even remotely might be considered
netphobic or one-who-is-intimidated-by-computers.

For such individuals, a mail client such as Icedove is far more
intuitive and far less likely to result in the loss or misplacement of
messages.

Would you give your 90-year-old arthritic grandmother a chainsaw for
pruning her rose bushes?  Would not a pair of pruning shears be a
wiser selection?

RLH



Re: maidir monitor for gnome

2007-09-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070904 23:42]:
 Since you already seem to use it I thought it worth pointing out how,
 using gnome-terminal you can get similar results to running 'xterm -e
 mutt'.
... 
 PS. I recall from some time ago the main advantage multi-gnome-terminal
 had over gnome-terminal was it's use of tabs: this feature is now in
 gnome-terminal too.

Thanks for the detailed instructions, Nick.  I've printed out a copy
and shall give it a try.

Life indeed would be simpler if I could standardize on one or the
other of gnome-terminal and multi-gnome-terminal.  I typically have as
many as six to eight terminal windows open at once, with at least one
of them running midnight commander, so I shall look into
gnome-terminal with tabs.

RLH


Re: maidir monitor for gnome

2007-08-31 Thread Russell L. Harris
Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I
installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good
package.  But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification
generated an error message on the terminal screen.

I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also
appeared to be a good package.  The only problem which I encountered
with gnubiff is that the when double-clicked option does not appear
to work.  I set the command string to /usr/bin/mutt, but I cannot
start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon.  Otherwise, gnubiff
appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it.

Thanks for your response.

RLH
 


Re: maidir monitor for gnome

2007-08-31 Thread Russell L. Harris
* shen xiaofei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070831 23:28]:
 Hello,Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
 
 * You wrote on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 07:33:54PM -0500:
  Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I
  installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good
  package.  But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification
  generated an error message on the terminal screen.
  
  I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also
  appeared to be a good package.  The only problem which I encountered
  with gnubiff is that the when double-clicked option does not appear
  to work.  I set the command string to /usr/bin/mutt, but I cannot
 
 xterm -e /usr/bin/mutt
 
  start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon.  Otherwise, gnubiff
  appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it.

Amazing!  I thank you, Shen.  

This is my first experience with xterm.  I have been using Multi Gnome
Terminal except when I wish to run mc (midnight commander).  mc
doesn't work very well with multi gnome terminal, so for mc I open
gnome terminal.

RLH


categorizing muttrc

2002-07-30 Thread Russell L. Harris

I am a mutt newbie.  It seems to me that configuration of mutt would be 
easier if:

* muttrc contains the entire set of mutt configuration variables (variables 
not applicable to the particular installation may be commented out, using #)

* the configuration variables are grouped in categories, such as the 
following (this list is incomplete):

 user interface
 message composition
 attachments
 file copy of messages
 message headers
 message display
 message transmission
 message printing
 mailboxes
 address qualification
 user personalities
 encryption  ssl
 message piping
 message scoring
 message signatures
 searching
 sorting
 MIME
 mixmaster
 POP
 IMAP
 MH
 aliases

* each variable would be accompanied by a brief comment regarding 
applicability and proper usage

Are there drawbacks to such a scheme?  Would anyone be interested in 
posting a copy of the commented configuration file?  Would this project 
have the blessing of the author of mutt?

I have begun categorizing the configuration variables.  I solicit comments 
and recommendations.

RLH





alternates configuration variable

2002-07-28 Thread Russell L. Harris

 I do not understand the intended usage of the alternates 
configuration variable.  The manual says that it affects Mutt's idea about 
messages from you and addressed to you.

RLH





multiple mail personalities

2002-07-27 Thread Russell L. Harris

 I'm a mutt newbie.  I need to implement a business mail personality 
and a personal mail personality on the same host machine, so that my 
replies to business mail appear to originate from the business mail address 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and my replies to personal mail appear to originate from 
the personal mail address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 I haven't seen this matter addressed specifically in the manual; did I 
miss something?

system:  Debian 3.0 (Woody)
mail accounts:  POP3
mail runner:  fetchmail
MTA:  exim (using smarthost at ISP)

RLH