Re: OT: "domain-level" email hosting services?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 08:43:02PM -0400, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: I've always just run my own (Linux) email server locally in my home office, but my current Internet service is soon going to be going away and I was wondering if it would make sense to move to some sort of mail-hosting company as part of reorganizing my network setup. So on the theory that there are likely to be other users of advanced email-server functionality among the Mutt folks, I thought I would ask here to see if anyone has recommendations for mail hosting services that target neither "consumer" nor "enterprise" clients, but somewhere in the middle (and which play nicely with Mutt and other IMAP clients)? For example, a service that allows unlimited "aliases" for a set of domains, pointing to a handful of "user mailboxes" which actually receive email? Or alternatively some service that queues incoming Internet mail for my domains and then allows the queued email to be fetched by my local mail server for local delivery (thus avoiding having an open SMTP port on my home connection to the Internet)? (I currently host a few domains and deliver mail to ~5 users via hundreds of aliases) Thanks for any ideas I should consider. Take advantage of hosting sales (such as Hostgator currently is running) and set up a mail system on a shared host. Cheap and reliable; a wealth of features, but easy to set up. Then use getmail to download mail to your local machine where you run Mutt. RLH -- How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up? - Deuteronomy 32:30
Re: simple formatting possibilities
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 07:00:52AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: I would expect something of the sort exists for the bridge community. A search on "portable game notation for bridge" brings up numerous hits; at first glance, this hit appears to be promising and authoritative: http://82.95.226.114/dokuwiki/doku.php/bridge/pbn
Re: simple formatting possibilities
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 01:40:08AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: Both a friend and I organize weekly online bridge games for 20-30 players. My seating notices go out as simple text. He ... I don't like the attachment approach but the formatting (minimal, bold, alignment,?) he uses and the 2 column arrangement would be useful. ... Is there anything I could use to create such "formated text", then distribute it in the body of a mutt message having some hope that the recipients see it correctly? I know nothing about bridge, but years ago, when there was such a thing as a newspaper, I always looked at the chess column, which appeared on the same page as the bridge column. The chess column typically presented a puzzle, in the form of a graphical diagram. I seem to recall seeing something similar in the bridge column. As I recall, there is a LaTeX package for drawing a chess diagram, so I would expect there also is a LaTeX package for drawing a bridge diagram. Also, the chess community long ago developed a simple standard called "Portable Game Notation" (PGN) which facilitates postal-chess-via-email as well as capture, transmittal, and analysis of games, either in-progress or complete. Computer chess packages typically read and write PGN files, some even automatically extract PGN from email messages. Again, I would expect something of the sort exists for the bridge community. RLH
Re: Going GUI...er
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:23:34PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: Sorry, but this is an archaic way of looking at the problem. People have been doing this for decades now, has become the norm, common practice, and really it is therefore WE who are being inconsiderate by not accepting de facto standards that have been widely adopted for a very long time. Still, there is a limit as to practices which should be tolerated. To me, the great advantage of email is that it allows both me and those with whom I am corresponding to read and to reply at times which are convenient for each of us, though those times may not be coincident. Some are morning people; I am a nightowl. One of the parties with whom I was corresponding by email is a physician who receives urgent calls day and night on his cellular phone. Years ago (before the smartphone became ubiquitous) his well-meaning but not-so-bright daughter configured his mail client to ring his cellular phone whenever a email arrives. Not long after, I received an angry phone call from his wife, complaining that a conversational email which I sent off at 2am or 3am awakened them. The fact that someone is so stupid or so arrogant as not to secure a telephone number and an email address reserved for vital matters should not force me to look at the clock or consider time zones before composing and sending messages by email. Nor should it be necessary for me to accommodate the smartphone by limiting the length messages I compose. Similar considerations appertain to the practice of top-posting in a message thread. It is wrong to allow caprice on the part of the stupid and the ignorant to overthrow good traditions and good practices which have developed over the years. RLH
Re: Going GUI...er
On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 12:19:58PM -0600, Akkana Peck wrote: This happens for two reasons: 1. Mutt shows attachments at the bottom of a message, which was reasonable in the days before everyone top-posted; but now I never 2. Calendar invites are often part of a MIME multipart/alternative: I feel like I miss a lot in mail messages because mutt doesn't tell me about attachments. Rather than bastardize Mutt to accommodate mis-use of e-mail (using it for generalized transport, rather than for communication) and perversions such as top-posting, a proper approach is to have two email addresses, and to run a different mail user agent for each. The first address is for efficient communication with rational and knowledgeable individuals; such communication is handled by Mutt. The second is for communication (which, regrettably, often is essential) with fluff-heads and with entities of the corporate realm (which is chained to M$); for this, use an agent such as Thunderbird. The more needs accommodated, the fewer needs served well. RLH
Re: [Mutt] Going GUI...er
On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 08:39:34AM +0200, steve wrote: I can display images, read pdf's, etc??? but one thing I never managed to do is open an html file containing images. I mean, I can send the html part to firefox but the images don't follow. With neomutt on Debian 9, ":exec bounce-message" forwards everything.
Re: Going GUI...er
On Sat Apr 04, 2020 at 09:41:59 +0200, Vegard Svanberg wrote: However, I'm increasingly finding myself having to resort to various tricks to deal with HTML only emails (with picture attachments), calendar invites, and other oddities and awkward stuff people send. I don't know how I would survive with a regular GUI client like Thunderbird or Evolution. I've tried, but they all suck. Mutt's keybindings, search and navigation features are irreplaceable. Suggestions? What does everyone else do? The solution I found was to create on the mail server an account for "ugly mail", install Thunderbird on my main machine, and configure Thunderbird to retrieve from the "uglymail" account; that way, Thunderbird does not mess with my maildir structure. Then, when, using Mutt, I encounter an uglymessage, I bounce it to the uglymail account, with the command ":exec bounce-message". Afterward, I use Thunderbird to view or otherwise process the uglymessage and attachments. RLH
Re: forwarding in neomutt
On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 09:25:58AM -0500, Jason wrote: Not ":f", just "f". f forward-message forward a message with comments "f" by itself moves the highlight one message up the list, whether I am looking at the index or at a particular message. This possibly could be a result of the "Dvorak Classic" keyboard mapping which I utilize. I seldom forward messages, except certain categories of spam which I forward to the ABUSE mail address of my hosting provider; with this in view, I also set "mime_forward" to "yes", in order to send the original message complete with header. RLH
Re: forwarding in neomutt
On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 03:03:42AM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: Maybe have to type ":exec forward-message" ? Yes; that works. If that does not work does it work if you press simplified "f"? No; ":f" does not work. I am grateful for your assistance, Xu. RLH
forwarding in neomutt
The "forward-message" command appears not to work in Debian 9 (Stretch, neomutt); when I type ": forward-message" on the Neo-Mutt command line, the response is "forward-message: unknown command". Is neo-Mutt broken, or am I doing something wrong?
Re: Can I do this (should I do this) with Mutt?
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 03:03:42PM +, John Long wrote: ... 1. Is it reasonable to use Mutt with many email accounts? I know you probably can, but is it reasonable as in, is it manageable, is the performance good enough on a midrange box. Usability stuff, like will mutt automagically respond using the correct account (the account the email I'm replying to was received by), is it clear when you compose which account you're using. Etc. 2. I have around 100,000 emails right now between all my accounts. I have one pop account because my ISP mail server doesn't support IMAP. I use IMAP with all the rest. I like having the email on my box(es) rather than leaving it on servers. Of the mailbox flavors, which is appropriate for this volume of email?...and also for the let's say 200 a day I get between the various mailing lists I'm on. 3. I seem to remember that mutt didn't poll automagically for pop3 or IMAP or both. Is that still true? Is there a way to get mutt to check mail every 10 minutes, 15, etc. without middleware? I don't want to get into fetchmail, getmail etc. I want the client to do it all. ... Your third restriction is unreasonable; the logical end of letting the client "do it all" is to remain with the GUI client from which you wish to escape. First, "maildir" is the proper choice for a mailbox structure, irrespective of volume. Using "cron" and "run-parts" to invoke "getmail", I check three POP accounts (or IMAP) every few minutes, downloading directly to a maildir on my (mid-range) machine any messages which have arrived. Each time I switch from one account to another, Mutt notifies me of new messages in the various accounts. For getmail, each account (POP or IMAP) is configured separately and runs independently of the others. In my experience, getmail has proved completely reliable. At present, getmail delivers directly to a "maildir" structure, with a separate maildir for each POP or IMAP account; but I need to take an hour or two and configure "maildrop" to do a bit of sorting of the messages. Mutt allows me to choose the maildir from which to read messages, and to switch between folders. With a few thousand messages in each maildir, switching from one account to another takes a few seconds. Reduce the switching time by categorizing your messages; configure getmail to hand off messages to "maildrop" and configure maildrop to. Fresh out-of-the-box, Mutt does not automatically switch the address of outgoing messages when switching from one account to another for reading; but that is the purpose of profiles in Mutt. See, for example (no endorsement): https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/ my-number-one-reason-to-use-mutt-managing-multiple-profiles/
Re: Inbox folder doesn't work anymore
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 08:00:56PM -0300, Luciano ES wrote: I don't have any 'mailboxes' command in my .muttrc file. Not at all. I have this: set spoolfile="$HOME/Mail/inbox" I have a few folder-hooks though, and they all point to subdirectories of $HOME/Mail/inbox. Your problem may be that your system is running on defaults of which you are unaware, and that you need to use ".muttrc" to specify a few locations. As I said, if you do not use "folder" to specify a base for your mail repository, Mutt assumes the base is $HOME/Mail. You need to read the Mutt manual (and possibly other sources) to familiarize yourself with the typical usage of the following directories, all of which, in your case, are in Mail: "mbox", "postponed", "record", "spoolfile", "tmpdir". Each has an intended use. And the path of each should specified with a "mailboxes" command. In particular, "spoolfile" no longer serves the purpose it once did. In modern Linux systems the Mail Transfer Agent (Exim4) commonly delivers system-level messages to "spoolfile"; and some system utilities expect the format of "spoolfile" to be Mbox rather than Maildir. I suggest that you add to ".muttrc" the line "mailboxes $HOME/Mail/inbox" and specify "inbox" as "Maildir". Also, if the Mutt configuration variable "move" is true, Mutt automatically transfers a message from "spoolfile" to the location specified by the Mutt configuration variable "mbox" once the message has been read; this reduces clutter in "spoolfile". Regrettably, Mutt uses for this location variable the same name used for the format "mbox"; this is a source of confusion.
Re: Inbox folder doesn't work anymore
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 12:08:14AM -0300, Luciano ES wrote: The problem is that the Inbox folder is empty. And it shouldn't be. I can inspect that directory say, with a file manager, and it's loaded with messages. Check two things: (1) The only maildirs or mboxes of which Mutt is aware are those which are specified in .muttrc by the "mailboxes" command. (2) The base of the maildir or mbox structure is specified by the "folder" command. If I recall correctly, Mutt assumes "~/Mail" if no base is specified.
Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] People that CC mailing lists
* David Woodfall d...@dawoodfall.net [130210 00:45]: I've a few mailing lists where people don't send to the mailing list instead they CC it. In which case when I reply to the list mutt doesn't recognise it as a list and I have to do a normal reply and manually put in the mailing list address in the send field. ... I guess the other way is to nag people into using a proper email client :) Please tell me if I am using the wrong command when attempting to reply to a mail list regarding a message on the list. I am running Mutt on Debian Squeeze. In order to reply to your message, I press g (for group reply), and Mutt generates the following header pair: To: David Woodfall d...@dawoodfall.net Cc: mutt-users@mutt.org Is there a command other than g which is appropriate when replying to a group? RH
Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: a concept for spam filter
* Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au [121103 09:12]: ... - anything else lands in my UNKNOWN folder; it is 99% spam I always sort that folder on subject when I visit it; it makes tossing it much easier because a lot of spam gets repeated in big chunks ... Cameron, I thank you for the detailed reply; I still am digesting it, and I hope very soon to begin using the method which you described. But your reply provided and unexpected and immediate benefit: I have used Mutt for years, but I never knew that the index could be sorted. I learned how through a quick search with Google for mutt sort index, so now handling unknown mail is much easier. Thanks! RH
a concept for spam filter
Has anyone devised a spam filtering into which an address and subject line could be entered simply by pressing a key while viewing the mutt index? That way, whenever I go down the index pressing the d key to mark spam items to be deleted, perhaps by pressing some other key I could mark spam items to be both deleted and added to a spam filter, so that neither the same sender nor the same subject line ever again would clutter my screen. RLH
Re: a concept for spam filter
* Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net [121102 19:36]: I have set up macros that bind keys to pass messages to spamassassin using sa-learn and then puts the message into the spam mailbox. Is this the type thing you mean? The spam mailbox can later be used to train spamassassin for future filtering, using procmail. Is the return path the true address of the sender? If so, I would like to blacklist such addresses. The From: field shown in the message index of Mutt almost always is rewritten -- sometimes to an address from which valid messages may originate -- so I hesitate to blacklist such addresses. At present, I am using mailfilter to delete messages from the POP3 server of my ISP before download. This helps greatly; but the spammers keep changing subjects and addresses, so maintenance of the .mailfilterrc file is becoming an unreasonable burden. Then I am using getmail to download messages and maildrop to sort them. How much trouble is it to set up SpamAssassin for a setup such as mine, in which cron is used to pull down messages every ten or fifteen minutes? Must I switch from getmail and maildrop to procmail? Ultimately, the solution is to make spamming a crime for which the punishment is a suspended sentence. RLH
Re: name file?
* Robert Holtzm hol...@cox.net [120908 22:07]: Running mutt 1.5.20-9+squee on squeeze (obviously). When I compose a message, the From header is as shown above which is incorrect. ~/.muttrc shows no option to set this. Somewhere there is a file with my full name. I remember typing it in when I installed the system but can't find it. I'm not even sure that's what mutt is reading. Running searches turns up little of use. I realize this is a noob question and I should know it cold, but at this point I'm stuck. Any pointers appreciated. The default name is set in the file .muttrc, using the following line: set realname='John Q. Smith' You can use the alias file to change the address in the From: header, in the event that you wish to reply from an address other than the default address. After backspacing to delete the default address, the key combination Esc-f brings up the list of aliases, items of which are of the form: alias yahoomail jsmith...@yahoomail.com(John Q. Smith) alias googlemail johnsmit...@googlemail.com (John Q. Smith) Select the alias by typing in the alias (here, yahoomail or googlemail), whereupon mutt places the corresponding address in the From: header. This works also for the Bcc: and the To: headers. The alias list resides in .muttrc. Alternatively, the alias list may be kept in a file such as ~/.mutt/alias which is sourced by .muttrc; to do this, place a line such as the following in .muttrc: source ~/.mutt/alias Of course, you can have any number of alias lists, such as alias-business, alias-friends, alias-enemies, etc. -- something of a set of addressbooks. RLH
export maildir messages to text files
For email, I run mutt and muttprint. I have a directory of messages in maildir format. I need to export each message to a separate text file, so that the message may be edited without the necessity of manually stripping away the message header. There is no need to preserve the data in the message header, other than the sender, the recipient, the subject, and the date. I think that the latex intermediate file produced by muttprint would be ideal. But after reading the muttprint manual and the muttprint man page, I cannot figure out how to utilize muttprint for this service. Ideally, I would like to use a command similar to the following: $ muttprint --export-tex-file ~/mail/correspondence/cur/* and end up with a .tex file for each message. If necessary, I would be willing to use a solution which converts one message at a time, but it would be preferable to be able to convert all the messages in a maildir with a single command. RLH
Re: Cc prompt when writing a new message
* Patrice Clement charlier...@free.fr [110222 12:12]: Hi there I've been looking for a way to get a prompt to fill up the Cc: field when I want to write a new email. Currently, when I press m (you all know what the key-binding for m is :)), mutt asks me to whom I want to send the email and the subject of it. But no Cc: comes up. I looked through the documentation but couldn't find anything related to this. Any clue gentlemen ? Patrice The opportunity for Cc: comes after the composition is complete and the editor is closed with C-x C-#. Then, pressing c brings up a Cc: prompt at the bottom of the screen. Also, at this point, the subject line may be altered by pressing s, the to line, by pressing t, and the from line, by pressing ESC-f. RLH
Re: Scalable mutt icon
Malcolm Locke wrote: Hi, Searching the archives I couldn't find any scalable vector versions of the lovely mutt icon. He has been a faithful companion on my desktop for many years but is now looking a bit shabby alongside his SVG compatriots. So I've used my questionable graphics skills to create a scalable version, feel free to download the SVG or one of the pre scaled PNGs for your own use. http://wholemeal.co.nz/~malc/mutt-logo/ Enjoy, Malc Thanks, Malcom! A year or two ago I tried without much success to clean up the standard-issue icon, but I had little success. RLH
Re: Mutt, multiple accounts problems
* Kabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081002 16:07]: Hello, I'm not so new to mutt, and i really like it. I'm trying to make it work with multiple imaps pop3 accounts, but I get a lot of problems. So I would be pleased if someone could give me a tip. Even after finding some example I didn't managed to make it work :S I'm completely lost now, I tried to make it work the whole day, and failed miserably. So my last hope is this mailing list. Does somebody could show me his .muttrc where he's accessing more than one mail server? I would be very happy for this help. Greetings, Kabel Rather than trying to do everything with mutt, why not take advantage of well-designed and easy to maintain special-purpose software? For example, use getmail4 to fetch your mail, and maildrop to sort messages. RLH
Re: email chess
* Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080906 04:56]: On 2008-09-06 10:52:56 +0200, Anders Karlsson wrote: IIRC, when I tried to do this a couple years back, I ended up with cmail and xboard as the docs in the package was enough to get me going relatively easy. I, too, distantly remember once having used xboard and cmail on Linux. I don't think that it used any capabilities that Linux has lost over the past 10 years. ;-) Thanks to the both of you for the response. Yes, it appears that the combination of xboard and cmail is the solution which I hoped to find. While trying to get xboard launched with a reasonable board size (the default was much too big for my screen), I noticed cmail in the xboard documentation, but I didn't investigate, because I am using mutt. But now I'll read over the xboard documentation carefully and give cmail a try. RLH
email chess
Years ago, running Window$, I used an application which automated the process of playing chess via email. I don't remember the details, but an email with a chess game file (.pgn ?) would launch an application similar to xboard, and the chess application would create a game file (.pgn ?) for mailing. The automation did away with almost all of the hassle. Is there a Linux package (or perhaps an extension to mutt) which facilitates playing chess via email? Alternatively, is there a good HOWTO on email chess? RLH
Re: Mail sends to all addresses except one
I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an i386 system. I had difficulty with mail delivery to one address because Exim4 was using the username rather than the mailaccountname in mail addresses. The Return-Path: and envelope-from: headers read [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED]. - However, the From: header (which is set by Mutt) read correctly [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The solution was to add a one-line entry to the file /etc/email-addresses: rlh: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In other words: username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RLH
mutt puppy-dog icon
The mutt puppy-dog icon which ships with the Debian system I just installed is of very poor quality and looks rather shabby. Where may I find an nice high-resolution mutt icon to use on the desktop to launch mutt? RLH
Re: How to erase already defined mailboxes ?
* Vladimir Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080328 04:28]: Hi, I'm having many mailboxes receiving mail. Many mailinglists, so I'm getting mail all the time. It can get quite disturbing. I was thinking that I would define list of core mailboxes and list of all mailboxes. At the morning I would switch on all mailboxes and read everything. Then I would switch to core and I wouldn't be disturbed by not so important mails. During day I could switch back and forward between those. Can I achieve this without restarting mutt, ie. can I empty the currently defined mailboxes ? A simple approach would be to use mail notification (aka mailnotify) to alert you (via tone or icon) to the fact that mail has come in to the core boxes. When you move the mouse pointer to the mailnotify icon, a temporary window opens, displaying the From header and the Subject line of each unread message. RLH
Re: Ideas for a Mutt demo
* Joe Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071115 16:14]: On 13:43 Thu 15 Nov , Gary Johnson wrote: On 2007-11-15, Joe Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need some ideas as to setting up a demo of Mutt for netphobic users. As much as I love the efficiency of Mutt (and Gnus), they hardly seem appropriate for anyone who even remotely might be considered netphobic or one-who-is-intimidated-by-computers. For such individuals, a mail client such as Icedove is far more intuitive and far less likely to result in the loss or misplacement of messages. Would you give your 90-year-old arthritic grandmother a chainsaw for pruning her rose bushes? Would not a pair of pruning shears be a wiser selection? RLH
Re: maidir monitor for gnome
* Nick Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070904 23:42]: Since you already seem to use it I thought it worth pointing out how, using gnome-terminal you can get similar results to running 'xterm -e mutt'. ... PS. I recall from some time ago the main advantage multi-gnome-terminal had over gnome-terminal was it's use of tabs: this feature is now in gnome-terminal too. Thanks for the detailed instructions, Nick. I've printed out a copy and shall give it a try. Life indeed would be simpler if I could standardize on one or the other of gnome-terminal and multi-gnome-terminal. I typically have as many as six to eight terminal windows open at once, with at least one of them running midnight commander, so I shall look into gnome-terminal with tabs. RLH
Re: maidir monitor for gnome
Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good package. But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification generated an error message on the terminal screen. I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also appeared to be a good package. The only problem which I encountered with gnubiff is that the when double-clicked option does not appear to work. I set the command string to /usr/bin/mutt, but I cannot start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon. Otherwise, gnubiff appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it. Thanks for your response. RLH
Re: maidir monitor for gnome
* shen xiaofei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070831 23:28]: Hello,Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]! * You wrote on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 07:33:54PM -0500: Before I received your recommendations of melon and gkrellm, I installed mail-notification, which appeared to be a good package. But every time a new message arrived, mail-notification generated an error message on the terminal screen. I then removed mail-notification and installed gnubiff, which also appeared to be a good package. The only problem which I encountered with gnubiff is that the when double-clicked option does not appear to work. I set the command string to /usr/bin/mutt, but I cannot xterm -e /usr/bin/mutt start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon. Otherwise, gnubiff appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it. Amazing! I thank you, Shen. This is my first experience with xterm. I have been using Multi Gnome Terminal except when I wish to run mc (midnight commander). mc doesn't work very well with multi gnome terminal, so for mc I open gnome terminal. RLH
categorizing muttrc
I am a mutt newbie. It seems to me that configuration of mutt would be easier if: * muttrc contains the entire set of mutt configuration variables (variables not applicable to the particular installation may be commented out, using #) * the configuration variables are grouped in categories, such as the following (this list is incomplete): user interface message composition attachments file copy of messages message headers message display message transmission message printing mailboxes address qualification user personalities encryption ssl message piping message scoring message signatures searching sorting MIME mixmaster POP IMAP MH aliases * each variable would be accompanied by a brief comment regarding applicability and proper usage Are there drawbacks to such a scheme? Would anyone be interested in posting a copy of the commented configuration file? Would this project have the blessing of the author of mutt? I have begun categorizing the configuration variables. I solicit comments and recommendations. RLH
alternates configuration variable
I do not understand the intended usage of the alternates configuration variable. The manual says that it affects Mutt's idea about messages from you and addressed to you. RLH
multiple mail personalities
I'm a mutt newbie. I need to implement a business mail personality and a personal mail personality on the same host machine, so that my replies to business mail appear to originate from the business mail address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and my replies to personal mail appear to originate from the personal mail address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I haven't seen this matter addressed specifically in the manual; did I miss something? system: Debian 3.0 (Woody) mail accounts: POP3 mail runner: fetchmail MTA: exim (using smarthost at ISP) RLH