Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-21 Thread David T-G

Nat, et al --

...and then Nathaniel Irons said...
% 
% On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
%  On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
%   
%   You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it
%   back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in
%   case it wasn't and you shouldn't
% 
% $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct?  (Otherwise
% the documentation is wrong).

It has been verified to me off-list that $save_name will not only
determine the target for your fcc but also for where a message in your
mailbox gets saved.  I haven't checked it, but it can probably be
considered valid until disproven rather than the other way around...


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Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-21 Thread Nathaniel Irons

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 07:53:53AM -0500, David T-G wrote:

 % $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct?  (Otherwise
 % the documentation is wrong).
 
 It has been verified to me off-list that $save_name will not only
 determine the target for your fcc but also for where a message in your
 mailbox gets saved.  I haven't checked it, but it can probably be
 considered valid until disproven rather than the other way around...

$save_name doesn't determine the target (as I desired to do
uniformly with my macro) -- $save_name allows the target to be defined
as the sender of the selected message. If a mailbox with that name
exists, the message is saved to that mailbox.  If no such mailbox
exists, the message is saved to $record.

Why would I want to save incoming mail to $record, which holds my
outgoing mail?  What bearing would this have on my question, which was
preventing the unhelpful default of save-to-sender from interfering
with my predetermined mailbox path?

$save_name is a boolean, defaulting to no.  I just checked it both
ways in 1.3.28, with and without a $record variable, and
four-for-four, saving an incoming message defaults to the sender of
the currently selected message.  I believe you were misinformed about
$save_name operating on incoming mail, and the docs are correct.

  -nat



Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-21 Thread David T-G

Nat --

...and then Nathaniel Irons said...
% 
% On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 07:53:53AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
% 
%  % $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct?  (Otherwise
%  % the documentation is wrong).
%  
%  It has been verified to me off-list that $save_name will not only
...
% 
% $save_name doesn't determine the target (as I desired to do
% uniformly with my macro) -- $save_name allows the target to be defined

Right...


% as the sender of the selected message. If a mailbox with that name
% exists, the message is saved to that mailbox.  If no such mailbox
% exists, the message is saved to $record.

Ah.


% 
...
% the currently selected message.  I believe you were misinformed about
% $save_name operating on incoming mail, and the docs are correct.

Sometimes those who know it all don't really know it all.  Thanks for the
clarification, and I'm sure he'll read it here as well.


% 
%   -nat


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disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread Nathaniel Irons

I'm trying to write a simple shortcut to save tagged messages to a
specific file.  It looks like this:

  macro index S ;s righthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox

and doesn't work, because mutt prepends the selected message's
author's username to the save path.  I'd appreciate suggestions for
overriding this username default for the macro, or disabling it
altogether.

Thanks.

  -nat



Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500:
 
 HTH  HAND and none of this is tested :-)

Acronymize that last one.  :-)




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Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Nathaniel --
 
 ...and then Nathaniel Irons said...
 % 
 % I'm trying to write a simple shortcut to save tagged messages to a
 % specific file.  It looks like this:
 % 
 %   macro index S ;s righthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox
 % 
 % and doesn't work, because mutt prepends the selected message's
 % author's username to the save path.  I'd appreciate suggestions for
 % overriding this username default for the macro, or disabling it
 % altogether.
 
 You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it
 back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in
 case it wasn't and you shouldn't, or you could just clear the line in
 your macro.  I believe if you insert a ctrl-u before specifying the
 mailbox name you'll get what you want.

Or you can just eliminate the space in your macro.  Either of these will
work:

macro index S ;srighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox
macro index S ;save-messagerighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox

I don't know why the space does that, but it's nice to know that it
does.  I'll be using that feature a lot from now on.  I had been
appending to the suggested mailbox name by first backspacing over the
last character, then replacing it.

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Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread David T-G

Shawn --

...and then Shawn McMahon said...
% 
% begin  quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500:
%  
%  HTH  HAND and none of this is tested :-)
% 
% Acronymize that last one.  :-)

Ha!  NOTIT for you! :-)


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Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread David T-G

Gary, et al --

...and then Gary Johnson said...
% 
% On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
%  
%  ...and then Nathaniel Irons said...
%  % 
%  %   macro index S ;s righthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox
...
%  % overriding this username default for the macro, or disabling it
...
%  your macro.  I believe if you insert a ctrl-u before specifying the
%  mailbox name you'll get what you want.
% 
% Or you can just eliminate the space in your macro.  Either of these will
% work:
% 
% macro index S ;srighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox
% macro index S ;save-messagerighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox

Hey, cool!  I didn't even notice that the first time :-)


% 
% I don't know why the space does that, but it's nice to know that it

I'm sure it's documented somewhere, and it makes sense since *NIX doesn't
usually have spaces in filenames and requires escaping to make them work
nicely.


Thanks for noticing!

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Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread Nathaniel Irons

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
  
  You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it
  back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in
  case it wasn't and you shouldn't

$save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct?  (Otherwise
the documentation is wrong).

 Or you can just eliminate the space in your macro.  Either of these will
 work:

Hey, good tip.  I never would have thought that would parse.  Thanks.

  -nat



Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread David T-G

Nat --

...and then Nathaniel Irons said...
% 
% On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
%  On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
%   
%   You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it
%   back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in
%   case it wasn't and you shouldn't
% 
% $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct?  (Otherwise
% the documentation is wrong).

Hmmm...  Yes, it does, and the doc isn't wrong, but I was thinking that
it would also direct mutt to save a message there instead of in $record.
I haven't tried it, though, so I can't say for sure.  Perhaps mbox-hook
would be a better way to approach it -- if, of course, Gary hadn't helped
us out!


HTH  HAND

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OT: Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread Rob Reid

At  1:01 PM EST on March 20 David T-G sent off:
 ...and then Shawn McMahon said...
 % 
 % begin  quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500:
 %  
 %  HTH  HAND and none of this is tested :-)
 % 
 % Acronymize that last one.  :-)
 
 Ha!  NOTIT for you! :-)

No fair.  Have a nice day is trivial, but even

http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym?NOTIT

doesn't expand NOTIT.

It was my first excuse to try the translation menu of smart bookmarks in
galeon, though.

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Re: OT: Re: disabling save-to-username default

2002-03-20 Thread David T-G

Rob --

...and then Rob Reid said...
% 
% At  1:01 PM EST on March 20 David T-G sent off:
%  ...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%  % 
%  % begin  quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500:
%  %  
%  %  HTH  HAND and none of this is tested :-)
%  % 
%  % Acronymize that last one.  :-)
%  
%  Ha!  NOTIT for you! :-)
% 
% No fair.  Have a nice day is trivial, but even
% 
% http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym?NOTIT
% 
% doesn't expand NOTIT.

Heh.  Look up there right after HAND :-)


% 
% It was my first excuse to try the translation menu of smart bookmarks in
% galeon, though.

Not only that but you gave me the URL, for which I am quite grateful.
Can't wait to check it out :-)


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HAND

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