Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Richard Porter
What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help 
page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found on 
the bugs page.

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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Peter Young
On 5 Jul 2013  Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote:

 What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help
 page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found on
 the bugs page.

I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=51719atid=464312
used to take you to the add a bug page (Can't remember what the 
correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead. 
This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug.

I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens 
there.

Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now?

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Dave Lawton

On Fri, 5 July, 2013 12:03 pm, Peter Young wrote:
 On 5 Jul 2013  Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote:

 What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The
 help
 page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found
 on
 the bugs page.

 I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=51719atid=464312
 used to take you to the add a bug page (Can't remember what the
 correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead.
 This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug.

 I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens
 there.

 Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now?

 With best wishes,

 Peter.

Hi,
You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket'
button has been added on the LHS.

HTH

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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Peter Young
On 5 Jul 2013  Dave Lawton li...@etcsystems.co.uk wrote:


 On Fri, 5 July, 2013 12:03 pm, Peter Young wrote:
 On 5 Jul 2013  Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote:

 What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The
 help
 page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found
 on
 the bugs page.

 I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=51719atid=464312
 used to take you to the add a bug page (Can't remember what the
 correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead.
 This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug.

 I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens
 there.

 Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now?

 With best wishes,

 Peter.

 Hi,
 You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket'
 button has been added on the LHS.

So there is! I did try logging in to see if it made a difference, but 
didn't notice the Create ticket.

Presumably this means that people without a Sourceforge account can't 
submit bug reports any more, which is a pity,

At least they now have Save instead of that awful Add artifact!

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Daniel Silverstone
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 12:52:51PM +0100, Peter Young wrote:
 Presumably this means that people without a Sourceforge account can't 
 submit bug reports any more, which is a pity,

At least we get identifying marks and a way to contact the author with every
bug report now though.

D.

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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Jim Nagel
Dave Lawton wrote on 5 Jul:

 You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket'
 button has been added on the LHS.

Maybe this useful info could be added to Netsurf's own help page --  
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info -- which tells you 
how to report a bug.  (Is this page wiki-editable or is it only the 
Netsurf team who can do it?  A link direct to the relevant point in 
Sourceforge would be welcome.)

I've just finished floundering my way through the Sourceforge process 
before discovering this thread on the mailinglist.  Am still unsure 
whether my report got posted on Sourceforge or not or twice.  Its 
Preview button didn't give any reassurance.

And, while on the subject of Sourceforge, does its print really need 
to be so tiny, given the acres of white space?  And does the print 
need to be grey rather than black?  (Is this grey a current fashion 
among website designers or is it my eyesight?!?  If grey, I presume it 
is controlled by something in CSS.)


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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Jul 2013 Jim Nagel  wrote:

 And, while on the subject of Sourceforge, does its print really need
 to be so tiny, given the acres of white space?  And does the print
 need to be grey rather than black?  (Is this grey a current fashion
 among website designers or is it my eyesight?!?  If grey, I presume it
 is controlled by something in CSS.)

That sort of thing is annoying. I like Oregano's option to disable 
Use document colours. Pity we haven't got something similar in NS. I 
probably raised it as a feature request in the dim and distant past.

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Re: Bed page display

2013-07-05 Thread Jim Nagel
Tim Hill  wrote on 29 Jun:
 ... save the web page to RAM disc and run it from there. As it can't
 find the 'faulty' CSS file from its relative URL, it is ignored.
 To see it more as intended you can use this link to load the 'invisible'
 css file http://www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/candyedit.css . Save it to ram
 disc alongside the web page as candyedit/css then edit it

Hmm, is this a general technique that works with any site using CSS 
with tiresome features?  I've often wondered how to see what the 
hidden CSS is doing.  F'rinstance my wee rant in the Sourceforge 
thread about text that is not only tiny but grey -- which I see too 
often on other sites, tho maybe it's my own eyesite!


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Re: Bed page display

2013-07-05 Thread Jim Nagel
Richard Torrens (lists) wrote on 28 Jun:
 http://www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/hammerhandle.html
 is a series of nested tgbles.
 The text overwrites, all on one line, with no proper wrapping in the cells.

Couldn't find any beds (or tgbles!) on that workshop site!
But then of course the overwritten text might explain this.   ;=)

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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Jim Nagel
 Peter young wrote:
 Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now?

Dave Lawton wrote on 5 Jul:
 You need to 'Login' [at Sourceforge], then you will find a 'Create Ticket'
 button has been added on the LHS.

Did that.  Checked back an hour or two later, and my report is not 
listed on the bugs page at Sourceforge, so did it again.  Clicked 
Save (does that mean Submit?), and up comes this page*:
www.archivemag.co.uk/JN/TEMP/NS-sourceforge.html

Hardly helpful.  I already know I am logged in.  I want to know 
whether my submission has been successful or not.  I'm stymied.
Less than user-friendly, imho.

Perhaps Netsurf is not displaying the Sourceforge page correctly, and 
we are missing something vital?


While we're on about Sourceforge, could someone already familiar with 
its workings please explain to us in the cheap seats what OpenID is 
all about?  This page says OpenID eliminates the need for multiple 
usernames across different websites.  Does that mean different 
Sourceforge websites or what?


*The tiny grey print in acres of blank space is a separate topick.

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Re: Sourceforge

2013-07-05 Thread Chris Young
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:22:09 +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:

 While we're on about Sourceforge, could someone already familiar with 
 its workings please explain to us in the cheap seats what OpenID is 
 all about?  This page says OpenID eliminates the need for multiple 
 usernames across different websites.  Does that mean different 
 Sourceforge websites or what?

It's an authentication system that works on any site that supports it.
 The idea is that you can choose your own OpenID provider, and use
that to log in on any website (well, as long as that website supports
OpenID).  It hasn't taken off in a big way, but it largely operates
(from a user perspective at least) the same as the log in with
Facebook, Log in with Twitter, Log in with my Google Account etc
buttons a lot of sites have.

I quite like the one on Sourceforge, as they used to force password
changes quite often, and logging in with an OpenID circumvented that. 
However, unless they've changed it recently, you can't actually log in
with an OpenID on Sourceforge if you're using NetSurf.

Chris