Re: JavaScript won't enable. Version 3.9.
On 27/02/2019, David Pitt wrote: > Walter Zambotti, on 27 Feb, wrote: > >> Downloaded and compiled latest build 3.8 which turned out to be 3.9 in >> the >> about. >> >> I have ensured that Enable JavaScript is ticked in the netsurf >> preferences >> content tab. >> >> But when I visit any java site including : >> >> www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-javascript-enabled >> >> All sites claim JavaScript is not enabled. > > Javascript in NetSurf is rather limited and insufficient to pass online > tests. > > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info.html#JavaScript > > -- > David Pitt > > Also needing to be remembered, is that javascript can be interpreted differently, between different web browsers, and, between different versions of the same web browser. It is one of the problems of client-side processing. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: JavaScript won't enable. Version 3.9.
Walter Zambotti, on 27 Feb, wrote: > Downloaded and compiled latest build 3.8 which turned out to be 3.9 in the > about. > > I have ensured that Enable JavaScript is ticked in the netsurf preferences > content tab. > > But when I visit any java site including : > > www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-javascript-enabled > > All sites claim JavaScript is not enabled. Javascript in NetSurf is rather limited and insufficient to pass online tests. http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info.html#JavaScript -- David Pitt
Re: JavaScript won't enable. Version 3.9.
On 27/02/2019, Walter Zambotti wrote: > Downloaded and compiled latest build 3.8 which turned out to be 3.9 in the > about. > > I have ensured that Enable JavaScript is ticked in the netsurf preferences > content tab. > > But when I visit any java site including : > Just out of interest, whilst the names may appear confusingly similar, java is completely different to javascript. > www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-javascript-enabled > > All sites claim JavaScript is not enabled. > > Have I missed something? > > Walter > -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992
Re: JavaScript won't enable. Version 3.9.
On 27 Feb 2019 Walter Zambotti wrote: > Downloaded and compiled latest build 3.8 which turned out to be 3.9 in the > about. > I have ensured that Enable JavaScript is ticked in the netsurf preferences > content tab. > But when I visit any java site including : > www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-javascript-enabled > All sites claim JavaScript is not enabled. > Have I missed something? Maybe. JavaScript is working here in 3.9, (Dev CI#4562) under RISC OS 5.25, RComp version (24-Aug 18), except on the site you mention. In particular, https://javatester.org/javascript.html conforms that JavaScript version 2.2 is working. Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Au) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
JavaScript won't enable. Version 3.9.
Downloaded and compiled latest build 3.8 which turned out to be 3.9 in the about. I have ensured that Enable JavaScript is ticked in the netsurf preferences content tab. But when I visit any java site including : www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-javascript-enabled All sites claim JavaScript is not enabled. Have I missed something? Walter Sent from my Xperia by Sony smartphone
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9 / keyboard shortcut for Javascript
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Justin Wierbonski wrote on 21 Sep: > > ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript? > Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages! Good > old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive) > Javascript on and off. I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to > set up such a key. Keystroke is an app still use... If I can fathom how to do it... I wonder if there's anyone left in the RISC OS arena who is expert on Keystroke? Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9 / keyboard shortcut for Javascript
Justin Wierbonski wrote on 21 Sep: > ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript? Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages! Good old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive) Javascript on and off. I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to set up such a key. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > In article <96f819f055.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter > wrote: >> On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> As you have a problem with both machines ... >> I didn't say that. I said that the behaviour was the same on both >> machines i.e. the page was working as intended and not showing duff >> gen on the ARMX6. > Not quite. > This was the post in question: Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What could they have in common which differs from other platforms? >>> I'm puzzled because I'm getting the same behaviour on both ARMX6 and >>> RiscPC, as I would expect using the same version of NetSurf. Does it >>> contain any alternative paths depending on OS version or processor >>> type? > "the same behaviour" in reply to "there seem to be problems" I meant the same behaviour as each other, not the same _different_ behaviour. > Not confusing at all. > Good night. Good morning. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article <96f819f055.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: > On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > As you have a problem with both machines ... > I didn't say that. I said that the behaviour was the same on both > machines i.e. the page was working as intended and not showing duff > gen on the ARMX6. Not quite. This was the post in question: > > > Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What > > > could they have in common which differs from other platforms? > > I'm puzzled because I'm getting the same behaviour on both ARMX6 and > > RiscPC, as I would expect using the same version of NetSurf. Does it > > contain any alternative paths depending on OS version or processor > > type? "the same behaviour" in reply to "there seem to be problems" Not confusing at all. Good night. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > As you have a problem with both machines ... I didn't say that. I said that the behaviour was the same on both machines i.e. the page was working as intended and not showing duff gen on the ARMX6. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Richard Porter wrote: > On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What could > > they have in common which differs from other platforms? > I'm puzzled because I'm getting the same behaviour on both ARMX6 and > RiscPC, as I would expect using the same version of NetSurf. Does it > contain any alternative paths depending on OS version or processor > type? Well, I'm not sure there is an HTTP header which would tell me the OS nor processor type of the machine hosting a visiting browser unless this is included in the user agent string. Go here with any browser to see what it is telling the world about itself in its User Agent HTTP header: http://timil.com/temp/browser.php?version=latest NetSurf 3.7 #3798 says "NetSurf/3.7 (RISC OS)". Hopefully, a browser doesn't tell lies in that string or if a user changes it then obviously it won't be detected OR checks for OS versions and whatnot can be completely spurious and unreliable anyway. You almost need Google Translate anyway to know that "...Windows NT 6.1; WOW64..." is actually Windows7-64. As I explained, the Calendar page detects the browser name in the HTTP_USER_AGENT string. The chunk of the page which does that and generates the welcome message is here http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/netsurf?version=latest The purpose of it is to do this: Find out which Browser is visiting. If it is NetSurf, Otter or Firefox print a personalised welcome message then: Is JavaScript active? - yes: print one message in RED (using JavaScript) - no: print in black, another message; If NetSurf, print some more. As you have a problem with both machines it could indicate that your network connection could be caching files somewhere incorrectly. Using a dummy variable appended to a URL will/should force a fresh copy of that file to be used and not a cached one: http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/?version=latest The user could be consistent in not changing the option in both browsers correctly (!) or your copies of NetSurf (or your hardware) are corrupt and should be replaced. It seems unlikely that both machines would have the same problem unless you are running the exact same copy of NetSurf via Share (as I do). But doing the same wrong thing on both machines would be possible! After all, someone else with the same version and hardware as you does not experience the same problem. Well, back to the page being displayed (wrongly) in your NetSurfs, and after ensuring that "Disable JavaScript" is ticked in the Content Choices, what happens when you click on "Set" with Select? If the Content Choices dialogue closes, is the Disable JavaScript option still ticked if you then re-open it? Another thing you could try is deleting whatever cache you have for NetSurf. Use the Utility !ShowScrap (or into a command window type Filer_OpenDir and then press ). Delete the contents of WWW.NetSurf.Cache There there could instead be a software clash so try and remove anything non-standard. Have you added things such as MouseAxess to both machines? I deleted that years ago following a tip and lots of supposedly unrelated weirdness stopped happening . We just need to find out what's causing yours. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article <55efef95a0brian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <55efd852c1...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > > In article <55ef946fbbbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan > > wrote: > [Snip] > > Or perhaps you are being deliberately obtuse, I'm not sure. > If objectively reporting what I am seeing here with the latest release > of NetSurf constitutes obtuseness then I plead guilty. Sorry, Brian, I thought for a moment this was Twitter and I was being trolled. I have amended the messages and hope it is more easily understood. http://timil.com/riscos/calendar -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article <55efd852c1...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <55ef946fbbbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan > wrote: [Snip] > Or perhaps you are being deliberately obtuse, I'm not sure. If objectively reporting what I am seeing here with the latest release of NetSurf constitutes obtuseness then I plead guilty. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Richard Porter wrote: > On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > In article <4c8196ef55.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter > > wrote: > >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > >> I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a > >> link associated with an event the page opens in the window in the > >> middle of your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back > >> to the calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't > >> help. > > JHC. > > Use when you click on a link. > > I can't reprogramme Google Calendar. > Granted, but you need to know in advance that you'll need to Adjust- > click on any link off the calendar. Of course the root cause is that > NetSurf doesn't save updates to iframes it its history. I have added a note to help people less familiar with the workings of NetSurf and RISC OS. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What could > they have in common which differs from other platforms? I'm puzzled because I'm getting the same behaviour on both ARMX6 and RiscPC, as I would expect using the same version of NetSurf. Does it contain any alternative paths depending on OS version or processor type? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 17 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > In article <4c8196ef55.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, >Richard Porter wrote: >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ >> I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a link >> associated with an event the page opens in the window in the middle of >> your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back to the >> calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't help. > JHC. > Use when you click on a link. > I can't reprogramme Google Calendar. Granted, but you need to know in advance that you'll need to Adjust- click on any link off the calendar. Of course the root cause is that NetSurf doesn't save updates to iframes it its history. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Bryan Hogan wrote: [Snip] > However having just turned my ARMini back on and tried again, I now > get the version that says "Welcome NetSurf user, you have JS > disabled". So something must have been wrong with the page caching. Sounds likely. > However, the calendar still doesn't display. Now I briefly get a "Bad > redirect URL" error in NetSurf's status bar :-( I've only seen messages like that with Phoenix. ;-) Also odd, because when I select the HTML-only link it doesn't seem to redirect at all. > NetSurf v3.6 (19th Nov 2016) - the release version. > Others have it working so there must be something going on here. I'll > have more of a play over the weekend. Hmm. There seem to be problems with both ARMini and ARMx6. What could they have in common which differs from other platforms? -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article <4c8196ef55.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a link > associated with an event the page opens in the window in the middle of > your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back to the > calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't help. JHC. Use when you click on a link. I can't reprogramme Google Calendar. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article <55ef946fbbbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article , Peter Young > wrote: > > On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > > In article , Richard Porter > > > wrote: > > >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > >>>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > > >>>> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, > > >>>> even though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see > > >>>> the site again. > > >>> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON > > >>> is rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? > > >>> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that > > >>> Content Choice option. > > >>> #3798 works as expected. > > >> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) > > > Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. > > How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me > > that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me > > that it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that > > happen? > > Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm > > running? > I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices--> > Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The > calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to > disable Javascript and reload this page" Correct > If I then disable JS and > reload the page the display area has a message "Your browser does not > appear to support JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to > display correctly. Correct. It didn't did it? With NetSurf's semi-JavaScript enabled you saw a white page with only "RISC OS Event Calendar" written in it. > You can visit the HTML-only version of this page > at: Yes, so what you do is click on the HTML-only version. Why do people find this complicated? I have no means to change the message Google Calendar puts in the iframe but if you think it through, it makes complete sense and you have to click on the HTML-only version because the browser you are using is, um, incomplete. Or perhaps you are being deliberately obtuse, I'm not sure. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Richard Porter wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Brian Jordan wrote: > > I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices--> > > Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The > > calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to > > disable Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and > > reload the page the display area has a message "Your browser does not > > appear to support JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to > > display correctly. You can visit the HTML-only version of this page > > at: > > NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss. > It's contradictory. No it isn't. > When you open the page it says "Your Javascript > ios disabled as it should be" at the top, then underneath Google > calendar says "Your browser does not appear to support JavaScript but > this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. ...". However > if you follow the link the calendar display comes up. Beacause it's offering you the non-JavaScript alternative. You need to select it. Oh, what a hardship. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Richard Porter wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Chris Young wrote: >> On 16 December 2016 22:49:06 GMT+00:00, Richard Porter >> wrote: >>>Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off >>>e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ? >> http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html >> Chris > Useful page. +1 Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ir) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Chris Young wrote: > On 16 December 2016 22:49:06 GMT+00:00, Richard Porter > wrote: >>Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off >>e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ? > http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html > Chris Useful page. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In message <55ef509b5e...@timil.com> Tim Hill wrote: >>From Newsgroup: comp.sys.acorn.misc > Subject: Re: London Show news > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:20 > In article , Peter Young > wrote: >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> In article <4ec82cef55.br...@helpful.demon.co.uk>, Bryan Hogan >>> wrote: >>>> Although the Events Calendar doesn't work in NetSurf, so also have a >>>> nomination in the Broken Cog category :-D >>> It does, why have you got javascript switched on? ;-) >>> Fixed that for you: >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ >> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even >> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site >> again. > Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is > rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? I had js off when I first visited the page, but received what must have been the js version, with just a blank white box in the middle of the page. So I then tried with js on, still got the exact same page. However having just turned my ARMini back on and tried again, I now get the version that says "Welcome NetSurf user, you have JS disabled". So something must have been wrong with the page caching. However, the calendar still doesn't display. Now I briefly get a "Bad redirect URL" error in NetSurf's status bar :-( NetSurf v3.6 (19th Nov 2016) - the release version. Others have it working so there must be something going on here. I'll have more of a play over the weekend. Thanks, Bryan. -- RISC OS User Group Of London - http://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/ RISC OS London Show - http://www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk/
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 December 2016 22:49:06 GMT+00:00, Richard Porter wrote: >Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off >e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ? http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html Chris
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a link associated with an event the page opens in the window in the middle of your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back to the calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't help. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Brian Jordan wrote: > I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices--> > Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The > calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to disable > Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and reload the page > the display area has a message "Your browser does not appear to support > JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. > You can visit the HTML-only version of this page at: > NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss. It's contradictory. When you open the page it says "Your Javascript ios disabled as it should be" at the top, then underneath Google calendar says "Your browser does not appear to support JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. ...". However if you follow the link the calendar display comes up. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Peter Young wrote: [ http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ ] >>>> #3798 works as expected. >>> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) >> Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. > How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me > that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that > it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen? > Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm > running? I've just tried it on my ARMX6 (OS 5.23) and it works just the same. Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ? -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > In article , Richard Porter > > wrote: > >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > >>>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > >>>> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even > >>>> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site > >>>> again. > >>> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is > >>> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? > >>> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content > >>> Choice option. > >>> #3798 works as expected. > >> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) > > Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. > How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me > that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that > it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen? > Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm > running? I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices--> Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to disable Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and reload the page the display area has a message "Your browser does not appear to support JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. You can visit the HTML-only version of this page at: NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss. -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit RISC OS 6.20 _ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > In article , Richard Porter > wrote: >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ >>>> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even >>>> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site >>>> again. >>> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is >>> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? >>> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content >>> Choice option. >>> #3798 works as expected. >> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) > Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen? Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm running? I only asked :-) Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ir) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
In article , Richard Porter wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > >> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even > >> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site > >> again. > > Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is > > rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? > > You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content > > Choice option. > > #3798 works as expected. > Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'. -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ >> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even >> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site >> again. > Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is > rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? > You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content Choice > option. > #3798 works as expected. Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC) -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ Skype: minijem2 mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.
Javascript ON when it's OFF
>From Newsgroup: comp.sys.acorn.misc Subject: Re: London Show news Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:20 In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill wrote: > > In article <4ec82cef55.br...@helpful.demon.co.uk>, Bryan Hogan > > wrote: > >> Although the Events Calendar doesn't work in NetSurf, so also have a > >> nomination in the Broken Cog category :-D > > It does, why have you got javascript switched on? ;-) > > Fixed that for you: > > http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ > Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even > though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site > again. Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled? You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content Choice option. #3798 works as expected. *** Posted to NetSurf Users Mailing List*** -- Tim Hill timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk
Re: Javascript features list
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:41:08 +0100, Ole Loots wrote: > Am Freitag, den 19.02.2016, 20:11 + schrieb Peter Slegg: > > > I am looking at a survey form and wondered if buttons should work ? > > > When I testet JS builds for Atari three weeks ago, onclick for buttons > worked well. It's interesting that it does appear to work on buttons, but not on links. Chris
Re: Javascript in Atari build
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:57:38 + (GMT)
> From: Peter Slegg
> Subject: Javascript in Atari build
>
> I am using Atari build 3420 and JS seems to be disabled. Paypal
> said it was disabled so I tried setting changing the settings
> because I couldn't remember which is on and off and it can't
> yet be set in the choices dialogue.
>
> enable_javascript:1 { on ? }
> enable_javascript:0 { off ?}
>
>
> http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html
>
> JavaScript IS NOT WORKING in your web browser
>
> Peter
>
JavaScript Âá IS WORKING Âá in your web browser
Ignore me, I've been caught by a quirk I found myself.
If enable_javascript:1 is the last line in Choices then it
has to be followed by a newline.
Peter
Javascript in Atari build
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:29:45 +
> From: Michael Drake
> Subject: Re: Javascript features list
> To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
>
> On 19/02/16 20:11, Peter Slegg wrote:
> >
> > Is there a maintained list of available JS features ?
>
> The closest is this:
>
> http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/Docs/UnimplementedJavascript.txt
>
I am using Atari build 3420 and JS seems to be disabled. Paypal
said it was disabled so I tried setting changing the settings
because I couldn't remember which is on and off and it can't
yet be set in the choices dialogue.
enable_javascript:1 { on ? }
enable_javascript:0 { off ?}
http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html
JavaScript IS NOT WORKING in your web browser
Peter
Re: Javascript features list
>Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:41:08 +0100 >From: Ole Loots >Subject: Re: Javascript features list >Am Freitag, den 19.02.2016, 20:11 + schrieb Peter Slegg: > >> I am looking at a survey form and wondered if buttons should work ? > > >When I tested JS builds for Atari three weeks ago, onclick for buttons >worked well. What does the verbose log say? And what do you expect? > >The code inside the onclick attribute seems to disable the button when >validation fails. But I guess the rendering engine does not deal with >such dynamic changes right now. Maybe there is also an exception... the >log will tell you more. > >Greets, >Ole Hi Ole, When I click on the button: (2332.005000) atari/rootwin.c:176 handle_event: rootwin MU_BUTTON input, x: 674, y: 674 (2332.010003) render/html.c:89 fire_dom_event: Dispatching 'click' against 0x1d21f0c (2336.24) atari/gui.c:153 atari_poll: WM: 30 I am expecting NS to go to the next page to begin the survey. Peter
Re: Javascript features list
Am Freitag, den 19.02.2016, 20:11 + schrieb Peter Slegg: > I am looking at a survey form and wondered if buttons should work ? When I testet JS builds for Atari three weeks ago, onclick for buttons worked well. What does the verbose log say? And what do you expect? The code inside the onclick attribute seems to disable the button when validation fails. But I guess the rendering engine does not deal with such dynamic changes right now. Maybe there is also an exception... the log will tell you more. Greets, Ole
Re: Javascript features list
On 19/02/16 20:11, Peter Slegg wrote: Is there a maintained list of available JS features ? The closest is this: http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/tree/Docs/UnimplementedJavascript.txt -- Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Javascript features list
Is there a maintained list of available JS features ? I found this http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Development_Plan but it looks a bit out of date and I found some circular references on http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info.html#JavaScript I am looking at a survey form and wondered if buttons should work ? The code in question is:
Re: JavaScript status indicator - request for a snippet of code
In article ,
Richard Porter wrote:
> > document.write("javascript is enabled");
> alternatively / additionally:
> JS Off
Excellent!
I drop out of PHP and do them both, then drop back in:
?>
document.write("<font color=red>JavaScript is
enabled!</font><br>");
JavaScript is disabled
Re: JavaScript status indicator - request for a snippet of code
On 17 Feb 2016 John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
>> I suspect that what I require is very simple/trivial and can be done in one
>> line of JS.
> try this:
> document.write("javascript is enabled");
alternatively / additionally:
JS Off
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Re: JavaScript status indicator - request for a snippet of code
In article <60ac4d5355.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
John Rickman Iyonix wrote:
> try this:
> document.write("javascript is enabled");
Perfick, as HE Bates was prone to write!
Thank you.
John
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| joh...@ukgateway.net
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Re: JavaScript status indicator - request for a snippet of code
John Williams wrote
> Can anyone who understands JS provide a snippet of JS code that I can
> insert in the footer of my local HTML index page to conditionally print,
> say, "JavaScript is enabled!" as a reminder of NetSurf's current JS status.
> If anyone wants to "go the whole hog" and reflect the two possible states,
> then my local index page¹ uses PHP served by WebJames, but that is by no
> means essential and may well be over-complicated.
> I suspect that what I require is very simple/trivial and can be done in one
> line of JS.
try this:
document.write("javascript is enabled");
John
--
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it is a shame unto him? Saint Paul KJ
JavaScript status indicator - request for a snippet of code
Can anyone who understands JS provide a snippet of JS code that I can insert in the footer of my local HTML index page to conditionally print, say, "JavaScript is enabled!" as a reminder of NetSurf's current JS status. If anyone wants to "go the whole hog" and reflect the two possible states, then my local index page¹ uses PHP served by WebJames, but that is by no means essential and may well be over-complicated. I suspect that what I require is very simple/trivial and can be done in one line of JS. TIA John ¹ As described in my article in Archive magazine some years ago. -- | John Williams | joh...@ukgateway.net Names for Soul Band:- Soul Doubt *
Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
Hello,
enabling JS for the atari builds was great :-)
Attached is a screenshot of another testpage from the NetSurf JS
Testsuite.
Things like works fine.
document.getElementById() works, also document.write() works, at least
when called during the rendering phase.
The JS Prime-Test page took 160 sec. to load here, which is expected by
me.
document.getElementById('xyz').innerHTML = "New Content";
- does nothing.
document.getElementById('textarea').value = "New Content";
- does set the correct value, but the GUI is not refreshed. If that
would work, NetSurf would be able to provide some kind of JS-Calculator,
using the textarea as the display...
I can confirm that the ASCII-fractal is rendering fine, took 8.6 sec
with m68k-aranym (Clocking: 300Mhz).
Very promising, looking forward for some possibility to redraw the
page/HTML Elements :-)
Greets,
Ole
Am Montag, den 25.01.2016, 21:12 + schrieb Peter Slegg:
> >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:53:46 +
> >From: Michael Drake
> >Subject: Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
> >To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
> >
> >
> >
> >On 23/01/16 23:06, Peter Slegg wrote:
> >
> >> Using Netsurf JS today it has crashed a few times.
> >> It isn't as stable as the last non-JS versions.
> >
> >How about when you use it with "enable_javascript:0"?
> >
> >Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
>
> With JS disabled it seems to be as stable as normal, no crashes
> since disabling JS yesterday and using JS to visit 20-30 pages.
>
> Is there a JS test page that can be used to check simple JS features ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
>Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:53:46 + >From: Michael Drake >Subject: Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari >To: netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org > > > >On 23/01/16 23:06, Peter Slegg wrote: > >> Using Netsurf JS today it has crashed a few times. >> It isn't as stable as the last non-JS versions. > >How about when you use it with "enable_javascript:0"? > >Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ With JS disabled it seems to be as stable as normal, no crashes since disabling JS yesterday and using JS to visit 20-30 pages. Is there a JS test page that can be used to check simple JS features ? Regards, Peter
Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
On 23/01/16 23:06, Peter Slegg wrote: Using Netsurf JS today it has crashed a few times. It isn't as stable as the last non-JS versions. How about when you use it with "enable_javascript:0"? -- Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:00:14 , Peter Slegg wrote: > > I spotted this in the git commits last night. I tried the build but > I don't think the setting is exposed in the Atari Choices dialogue. > > I just tried build 3296 but I wasn't sure whether 0 or 1 was on. > After a couple of failed attempts, I think I needed an extra LF in > the choices file, I seem to have JS working. > > The link above gives a character based Mandelbrot: > > ..:::;;=i++E EHHHO > ,,,:::;;==iHhhE### > > Brilliant :-) > > I am off to try some more tests. > > Many thanks all. > > Regards, > > Peter > > Using Netsurf JS today it has crashed a few times. It isn't as stable as the last non-JS versions. Peter
Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
On Saturday 23 January 2016 13:00:14 Peter Slegg wrote: > > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 11:22:09 + > > From: Michael Drake > > Subject: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari > > We have enabled JavaScript builds (json) for Atari on the CI server. > > I'd be interested to get confirmation on whether its working from > > Atari users. You can test by visiting: > > > > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/plain/test/js/js-fractal.html > I just tried build 3296 but I wasn't sure whether 0 or 1 was on. > After a couple of failed attempts, I think I needed an extra LF in > the choices file, I seem to have JS working. > > The link above gives a character based Mandelbrot: I confirm that the test page is working with the Coldfire build too. Very nice development! Cheers, JFL -- Jean-François Lemaire
Re: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 11:22:09 + > From: Michael Drake > Subject: JavaScript enabled builds for Atari > > > We have enabled JavaScript builds (json) for Atari on the CI server. > > You can get them here: > > http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/?C=M;O=D > > I'm not sure if the Atari front end exposes the JavaScript option in > its GUI. If not, you can edit the Choices file setting either: > > enable_javascript:0 > or > enable_javascript:1 > > I'd be interested to get confirmation on whether its working from > Atari users. You can test by visiting: > > http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/plain/test/js/js-fractal.html > I spotted this in the git commits last night. I tried the build but I don't think the setting is exposed in the Atari Choices dialogue. I just tried build 3296 but I wasn't sure whether 0 or 1 was on. After a couple of failed attempts, I think I needed an extra LF in the choices file, I seem to have JS working. The link above gives a character based Mandelbrot: .:::;;=i++E EHHHO ,,,:::;;==iHhhE### Brilliant :-) I am off to try some more tests. Many thanks all. Regards, Peter
JavaScript enabled builds for Atari
We have enabled JavaScript builds (json) for Atari on the CI server. You can get them here: http://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/atari/?C=M;O=D I'm not sure if the Atari front end exposes the JavaScript option in its GUI. If not, you can edit the Choices file setting either: enable_javascript:0 or enable_javascript:1 I'd be interested to get confirmation on whether its working from Atari users. You can test by visiting: http://git.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/plain/test/js/js-fractal.html -- Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
Dave Higton, on 5 Jan, wrote: [snip] > Any other testers in other time zones willing to give it a go? I moved myself to Cupertino CA temporarily, UTC-8.00 Pacific, mostly because I already have a clock for that in the iMac's notification area. (I missed the first hour of an Apple presentation once having failed to note the USA has different DST change over dates to the EU.) *st. TimeZone TimeZone -8:0 *time Tue,05 Jan 2016.22:53:06 * Today is 2016-01-05 22:53:08.000-08:00 *co. dst *time Tue,05 Jan 2016.23:57:24 * Today is 2016-01-05 23:57:44.000-07:00 Hope that helps. -- David Pitt
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
In message David Pitt wrote: >Dave Higton, on 3 Jan, wrote: > >> At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have >> been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as >> 1 hour in advance (double correction). >> >> The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your >> feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, >> with and without DST in force. >> >> There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. > >With #3250 on RPi2 OS5.23 (03-Jan-16). > >Correct for both conditions. > >*st. dst >AutoDST >*time >Mon,04 Jan 2016.07:25:59 >* >Today is 2016-01-04 07:26:26.000+00:00 > >*co. dst >*time >Mon,04 Jan 2016.08:28:07 >* >Today is 2016-01-04 08:28:21.000+01:00 Thanks, David and others. Any other testers in other time zones willing to give it a go? Dave GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more!
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
In article <9da78e3c55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > > In message <7b97583c55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> Peter Young > >wrote: > >>On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > >> > >>> At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears > >>> to have been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the > >>> time was shown as 1 hour in advance (double correction). > >> > >>> The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate > >>> your feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for > >>> everyone, with and without DST in force. > >> > >>> There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. > >> > >>Works here, with that build. RISC OS 5.23 (RComp), ARMX6. > > With and without DST in force? > How do I tell, before the end of March? Time and date Configuration utility in !Boot? Richard
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > In message <7b97583c55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> > Peter Young wrote: >>On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: >> >>> At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have >>> been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as >>> 1 hour in advance (double correction). >> >>> The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your >>> feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, >>> with and without DST in force. >> >>> There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. >> >>Works here, with that build. RISC OS 5.23 (RComp), ARMX6. > With and without DST in force? How do I tell, before the end of March? Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Os) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
Dave Higton, on 3 Jan, wrote: > At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have > been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as > 1 hour in advance (double correction). > > The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your > feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, > with and without DST in force. > > There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. With #3250 on RPi2 OS5.23 (03-Jan-16). Correct for both conditions. *st. dst AutoDST *time Mon,04 Jan 2016.07:25:59 * Today is 2016-01-04 07:26:26.000+00:00 *co. dst *time Mon,04 Jan 2016.08:28:07 * Today is 2016-01-04 08:28:21.000+01:00 -- David Pitt
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
In article <7b97583c55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > > At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have > > been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as > > 1 hour in advance (double correction). > > The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your > > feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, > > with and without DST in force. > > There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. > Works here, with that build. RISC OS 5.23 (RComp), ARMX6. Works here too, #3249, RISC OS 4.02, VRPC. Regards Brian
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
In message <7b97583c55.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> Peter Young wrote: >On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > >> At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have >> been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as >> 1 hour in advance (double correction). > >> The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your >> feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, >> with and without DST in force. > >> There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. > >Works here, with that build. RISC OS 5.23 (RComp), ARMX6. With and without DST in force? Dave FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!
Re: Javascript Date() function corrected?
On 3 Jan 2016 Dave Higton wrote: > At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have > been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as > 1 hour in advance (double correction). > The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your > feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, > with and without DST in force. > There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. Works here, with that build. RISC OS 5.23 (RComp), ARMX6. Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Os) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Javascript Date() function corrected?
At some stage recently the Javascript Date() function appears to have been fixed. Previously, when DST was in force, the time was shown as 1 hour in advance (double correction). The attached is a short file to test it, and I would appreciate your feedback as to whether it now shows the correct time for everyone, with and without DST in force. There is a new RISC OS build CI #3249 today. Dave Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager Title: _javascript_ - Date
Re: Change languaje and Enable javascript
In message <4eb78d89149f3a2b14696d12b7082...@openmailbox.org> Diego Herchhoren wrote: >Hi friends. > >I'm user of Debian Sid, and I'm using Netsurf. > >I have a problem with languaje. I select spanish languaje in >preferences, but the languaje is not changed. The problem is that we don't yet have a Spanish translation for the messages in the user interface. Can you help? Can you translate the messages for us? >Also, I have activated javascript, but it doesn't run. The Javascript implementation is currently only beginning. It's being worked on very hard, but Javascript is a big language, so it will gradually improve over time. Dave Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/manager
Change languaje and Enable javascript
Hi friends. I'm user of Debian Sid, and I'm using Netsurf. I have a problem with languaje. I select spanish languaje in preferences, but the languaje is not changed. Also, I have activated javascript, but it doesn't run. What could be the problem? Very thanks. -- DIEGO HERCHHOREN www.marcha.org.ar Twitter: @TwiterTarantino n-1: thomassankara Skype: tylerdurden495
Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
> On 2015-Sep-29 Jim Nagel wrote: > [snip] >> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that >> time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on >> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf. >> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off >> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site. Harriet Bazley wrote on 4 Oct: > Can't you just switch off JavaScript and reload the page without having to > restart Netsurf? That's always worked for me. You're right. Your revelation simplifies it a bit for me. > (Still on 2817 to avoid auto-JavaScript-start-up) I'm on #2968 now, after Vincent Sanders (thanks!) improved something as a result of a particular site I reported. Steve Fryatt posted links in this thread to the Netsurf team's explanations of why they have configured Javascript to be on by default: they WANT to receive reports of problem sites so that they can refine their code. So thanks again, Vincent! -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk || See you at the show? www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk October 24
Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
On 29 Sep 2015 as I do recall, Jim Nagel wrote: [snip] > I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that > time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on > forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf. > Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off > Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site. Can't you just switch off JavaScript and reload the page without having to restart Netsurf? That's always worked for me. (Still on 2817 to avoid auto-JavaScript-start-up) -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it.
Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
In message <550abce24acvj...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman wrote: > In article , >Jim Nagel wrote: >> Dave Higton wrote on 21 Sep: > >> > I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday. There hasn't been >> > one for quite a while. I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a >> > sport page of the BBC News website, for example. This is a big >> > improvement. >> > I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf. > >> Anybody concur? > >> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that >> time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on >> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf. >> Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off >> Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site. > > Same here with #2964 > I recently upgraded to #2964 from #2953 and AFAICS the javascript-enabled behaviour and functionality* is identical in both, and I too have the endless hourglassing behaviour unless JS is disabled. I don't mean to be downbeat or decry the efforts of the developers - NetSurf is a fine lightweight browser, better than any RISC OS alternative that I've tried**, and no doubt the developers would be the first to agree that javascript functionality is very much a work in progress. (* virtually non-existent) (** that doesn't include the recent Otter port) -- George
Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Dave Higton wrote on 21 Sep: > > I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday. There hasn't been > > one for quite a while. I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a > > sport page of the BBC News website, for example. This is a big > > improvement. > > I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf. > Anybody concur? > I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that > time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on > forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf. > Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off > Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site. Same here with #2964 -- Chris
Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:39:02 +0100 Jim Nagel wrote: > Dave Higton wrote on 21 Sep: > >> I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday. There hasn't been >> one for quite a while. I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a >> sport page of the BBC News website, for example. This is a big >> improvement. >> I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf. > > Anybody concur? > > I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that > time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on > forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf. > Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off > Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site. I still get that, yes. Dave FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth
Re: New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
Dave Higton wrote on 21 Sep: > I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday. There hasn't been > one for quite a while. I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a > sport page of the BBC News website, for example. This is a big > improvement. > I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf. Anybody concur? I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf. Some of these cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk || See you at the show? www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk October 24
New Netsurf - improved Javascript stability
I downloaded the latest CI build of NS yesterday. There hasn't been one for quite a while. I noticed that it doesn't crash when opening a sport page of the BBC News website, for example. This is a big improvement. I think we're seeing evidence of big changes within Netsurf. Dave FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!
Re: JavaScript
In message on 30 Mar 2015 David Feugey wrote: > ... but nothing about JavaScript support. Just "work in progress". I take you point about lack of detail, but I'm only a user rather than a developer, so am not in a position to know what has been done but hasn't been listed on the support web pages. I do recall having a conversation with one of the developers at the Wakefield show, possibly two years ago, who said that one aspect of providing JS support involved working through a very large number of "bindings" in order to check they worked correctly. Regards Andrew -- Andrew Pinder
Re: JavaScript
Cool, exactly what I need :) Thanks John! Hope to get/find more examples... I don't have complex needs, so NetSurf could be OK for this. Bye, David 2015-03-29 21:57 GMT+02:00 John Rickman Iyonix : > David Feugey wrote > >> Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back >> to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to >> try to provide client appliances for these applications. > >> I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can >> we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll >> get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have >> to convince my clients :) > >> Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be >> compatible with NetSurf, why not. > >> Thanks for the help, David > > I did a bit of testing to see what JS was supported a while ago. > The following link shows waht I discovered. > > http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/testing/index.html > > > john > > > > > -- > John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx > I could have been someone - SMcG > -- Mobile : 06 76 67 91 60
Re: JavaScript
... but nothing about JavaScript support. Just "work in progress". 2015-03-29 17:54 GMT+02:00 Andrew Pinder : > In message mail.com> > on 29 Mar 2015 David Feugey wrote: > >> Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back >> to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to >> try to provide client appliances for these applications. > >> I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can >> we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll >> get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have >> to convince my clients :) > >> Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be >> compatible with NetSurf, why not. > > Sounds good :-) > > Hopefully a developer will be along to give more complete answers, but > you will find a summary of features at http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ > and more detail at > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/progress.html > > > Regards > > Andrew > -- > Andrew Pinder > -- Mobile : 06 76 67 91 60
Re: JavaScript
David Feugey wrote > Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back > to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to > try to provide client appliances for these applications. > I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can > we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll > get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have > to convince my clients :) > Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be > compatible with NetSurf, why not. > Thanks for the help, David I did a bit of testing to see what JS was supported a while ago. The following link shows waht I discovered. http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/testing/index.html john -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx I could have been someone - SMcG
Re: JavaScript
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 05:53:19PM +0200, David Feugey wrote: > Sorry. The mailing list seems not to like messages from Gmail. Let's try > again. It seemed to arrive just fine... B.
Re: JavaScript
In message on 29 Mar 2015 David Feugey wrote: > Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back > to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to > try to provide client appliances for these applications. > I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can > we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll > get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have > to convince my clients :) > Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be > compatible with NetSurf, why not. Sounds good :-) Hopefully a developer will be along to give more complete answers, but you will find a summary of features at http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ and more detail at http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/progress.html Regards Andrew -- Andrew Pinder
Re: JavaScript
Sorry. The mailing list seems not to like messages from Gmail. Let's try again. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to try to provide client appliances for these applications. I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have to convince my clients :) Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be compatible with NetSurf, why not. Thanks for the help, David 2015-03-29 17:40 GMT+02:00 David Feugey : > Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back to > RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to try to > provide client appliances for these applications. > > I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can > we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll get, > the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have to > convince my clients :) > > Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be > compatible with NetSurf, why not. > > Thanks for the help, David -- Mobile : 06 76 67 91 60
JavaScript
Hi. I worked on several appliances since 2000, and I'm now switching back to RISC OS. As I have total control on the applications, I would like to try to provide client appliances for these applications. I know that NetSurf has only a limited support of JavaScript. But what can we do exactly? Do you have examples of working code? The more code I'll get, the more modern will be my interfaces, and the more chance I'll have to convince my clients :) Nota: I work only with web standards, but if I can narrow my choices to be compatible with NetSurf, why not. Thanks for the help, David
Re: Javascript version
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 08:22:48PM +, Peter Slegg wrote: > >> I guess this would be relevant only for the "json" version of Netsurf > >> (or would simply do nothing in the "jsoff" version). > > > >There is no jsoff version anymore. > > > >B. > > There isn't a Javascript version for the Atari build yet. > It would be nice to have the option but I don't know what the > performance would be like. I was talking about the RISC OS autobuilds and releases. I can't see a JavaScript release having less performance, just a (much) larger binary. B.
Javascript version
>> I guess this would be relevant only for the "json" version of Netsurf >> (or would simply do nothing in the "jsoff" version). > >There is no jsoff version anymore. > >B. There isn't a Javascript version for the Atari build yet. It would be nice to have the option but I don't know what the performance would be like. IIRC There was only one other JS enabled browser (Draconis - Adamas) but I found it very buggy. Peter
Re: wee feature request for 3.3 -- a Javascript on/off button
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 03:42:37PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: > Rob Kendrick wrote on 10 Mar: > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 01:06:49PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: > >> It would be handy if the Netsurf buttonbar had an item that would: > >> (a) toggle Javascript on or off > >> (b) indicate whether it's on or off. > > > I don't see any way that this is going into 3.3; we are currently > > prepping a release, and this is not a small feature to implement at all. > > For now, then, how about just a hotkey that would open the same window > that you get from iconbar "Choices > Content"? Maybe Ctrl-J or F10. No. It is too late for 3.3. Please file a wishlist/feature request on the bug tracker. > I guess this would be relevant only for the "json" version of Netsurf > (or would simply do nothing in the "jsoff" version). There is no jsoff version anymore. B.
Re: wee feature request for 3.3 -- a Javascript on/off button
Rob Kendrick wrote on 10 Mar: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 01:06:49PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: >> It would be handy if the Netsurf buttonbar had an item that would: >> (a) toggle Javascript on or off >> (b) indicate whether it's on or off. > I don't see any way that this is going into 3.3; we are currently > prepping a release, and this is not a small feature to implement at all. For now, then, how about just a hotkey that would open the same window that you get from iconbar "Choices > Content"? Maybe Ctrl-J or F10. I guess this would be relevant only for the "json" version of Netsurf (or would simply do nothing in the "jsoff" version). -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd(01458) 83 3603 Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861 >> before emailing large files (>1Mb), please ask me for FTP details
Re: wee feature request for 3.3 -- a Javascript on/off button
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 01:06:49PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: > It would be handy if the Netsurf buttonbar had an item that would: > (a) toggle Javascript on or off > (b) indicate whether it's on or off. I don't see any way that this is going into 3.3; we are currently prepping a release, and this is not a small feature to implement at all. Please feel free however to add it as a wishlist item to the bug tracker. B.
wee feature request for 3.3 -- a Javascript on/off button
It would be handy if the Netsurf buttonbar had an item that would: (a) toggle Javascript on or off (b) indicate whether it's on or off. The first point is simply an immediate and visible shortcut to the iconbar "Choices > Content > Disable Javascript". The second could be achieved by the graphic for the button: it could have "lit-up" and "switched-off" versions. This instant-and-visible shortcut would be useful during the ongoing development of Javascript for Netsurf, because some sites behave quite differently with or without our existing JS. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: quick on-off for Javascript
Jim Nagel wrote > Brian Jordan wrote on 23 Oct (in thread "Maps"): >> Strangely I have no black background problems here with build 3.3 (Dev >> CI #2193) if JavaScript is disabled. If JS is enabled the page doesn't >> render at all. > Leads tme to ask: is there a quick way of switching Javascript on or > off while viewing a given page? > If not, could I make a UI suggestion? > I recall way back when, when Fresco was attempting rudimentary > Javascript (or Ecmascript), its toolbar had a button to toggle it on > and off; the button also indicated the current state. Often proved > useful, in cases like Brian cites. plus ca change? > > > > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel > > > >wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of > > > > > programming effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the > > > > > toolbar. -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable the art of the next best - OvB
quick on-off for Javascript
Brian Jordan wrote on 23 Oct (in thread "Maps"): > Strangely I have no black background problems here with build 3.3 (Dev > CI #2193) if JavaScript is disabled. If JS is enabled the page doesn't > render at all. Leads tme to ask: is there a quick way of switching Javascript on or off while viewing a given page? If not, could I make a UI suggestion? I recall way back when, when Fresco was attempting rudimentary Javascript (or Ecmascript), its toolbar had a button to toggle it on and off; the button also indicated the current state. Often proved useful, in cases like Brian cites. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk || See you at the show? www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk Oct 25
Re: Controlling Javascript
In article <530f63fff3t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > about:testament should say if CI builds are built with JS. - which conveniently works as a URL file to put on the pinboard if required. John
Re: Controlling Javascript
In article <8a185b0f53.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 16 Jan 2013 Steve Fryatt wrote: > > Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me > > at present, so I can't check. > No, they don't. about:testament should say if CI builds are built with JS. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Controlling Javascript
On 16 Jan 2013 Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 14 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote in message > : [snip] >> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the >> versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) > Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me at > present, so I can't check. No, they don't. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript
On 14 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote in message : > Iconbar menu: Choices->Content Disable JavaScript on/off. > > I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon at > all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by > default. (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.) I think they do, as ISTR hitting a problem with making its appearance in the templates conditional (in the way that the Plugins checkbox is). On the -jsoff builds, the option will have no effect, however (and again IIRC it's actually forced off on those builds). > Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the > versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me at present, so I can't check. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 20 April 2013 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
On 15 Jan 2013, Tim Hill wrote: > In article , Tony > Moore wrote: > > On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill wrote: > > > In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF > > > wrote: > > > > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel > > > >wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of > > > > > programming effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the > > > > > toolbar. > > > > > > > . like Webster has. > > > > > > . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar. > > > A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work. > > I don't know about Keystroke but that's not true for Buttonbar. If a > keypress is understood by an application but not in its menu, it still > works. Just tested it with PageUp/Down for NetSurf and they work but > are not in the menu structure. Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. Having read it more carefully, I agree with you. (My NetSurf ButtonBar already has the same PageUp/Down.) Tony
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
In article , Tony Moore wrote: > On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill wrote: > > In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF > > wrote: > > > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel > > >wrote: > [snip] > > > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming > > > > effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar. > > > > > . like Webster has. > > > > . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar. > A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work. I don't know about Keystroke but that's not true for Buttonbar. If a keypress is understood by an application but not in its menu, it still works. Just tested it with PageUp/Down for NetSurf and they work but are not in the menu structure. -- Tim Hill .. www.timil.com
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
Peter Young wrote > On 14 Jan 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: >> Jim Nagel wrote >>> Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. >> did you mean #787? > Why? I'm currently on #809, downloaded this morning by the invaluable > Fetch_NS. My mistake I downloaded #812 but ran #789 inadvertently. -- John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/ For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF > wrote: > > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel > >wrote: [snip] > > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming > > > effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar. > > > . like Webster has. > > . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar. A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work. Tony
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF wrote: > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel >wrote: > > Chris Newman wrote on 14 Jan: > >> I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. > >> JavaScript option now duly found. > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming > > effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar. > . like Webster has. . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar. -- Tim Hill .. www.timil.com
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
On 14 Jan 2013 John Rickman Iyonix wrote: > Jim Nagel wrote >> Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. > did you mean #787? Why? I'm currently on #809, downloaded this morning by the invaluable Fetch_NS. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel wrote: > Chris Newman wrote on 14 Jan: >> I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. >> JavaScript option now duly found. > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming > effort): > A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar. . like Webster has. -- BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computing.] Skype: c.n.l.f Twitter: MrChrisGB Blogsite: mr-chris-gb.blogspot.com
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
Jim Nagel wrote > Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. did you mean #787? -- John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/ You are not the same people who left that station Or who will arrive at any terminus
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
Chris Newman wrote on 14 Jan: > I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. > JavaScript option now duly found. A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar. Basically a handy shortcut to the iconbar "Choices > Content > Disable Javascript" tickbox. It would be good to have the on/off handier, because the user needs it on a "per site" basis rather than "per application". (In days of yore, Fresco had such a button, for that reason.) The presence of such a button would also make it visually obvious to the user that a Javascript-enabled version of Netsurf is in use. At present the existence of Javascript is seen only several layers down in Choices. Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript
In article <20130114130007.gd15...@pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44:37PM +, Chris Newman wrote: > > Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my > > version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that > > means. > There are two builds of each version; -json (JavaScript on) and -jsoff > (JavaScript off). This does not reflect the default setting, it's imply > that the -jsoff builds do not include any JavaScript functionality at > all. > If you're running a release version (did you say what version you were > running, and where you got it from) then the whole of the above is moot: > we've not made a release with JavaScript support, only test versions. I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. JavaScript option now duly found. Ta, -- Chris
Re: Controlling Javascript
In article <444ae90d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF wrote: > In message <530de884c2cvj...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman >wrote: > > In article , Harriet Bazley > > wrote: > >> On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote: > >> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon > >> at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by > >> default. (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.) > > Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my > > version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever > > that means. > >> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of > >> the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) > > -- Chris > Think she means javasoft on and javasoft off. If a version of netsurf is > pre java soft, there isnt a json or jsoff option in the menu cos its not > relevant. Ah! Obvious now.Ta. -- Chris
