Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 00:04 -0500, Miark wrote: On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:39:29 -0800 (PST), CJ wrote: Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? I don't know as I've never tried anything that extensive. I usually do 10 or 20 files at a time that are no more than a few MB large. Even though I trust it, I wouldn't do any 100 GB transfers without a backup. Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. Documentation is here: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ and here are a couple of quotes from the site: Ntfsmount has almost full feature write support. It can resize, create and delete files and directories and even operate on symlinks, devices, FIFOs and sockets. Though ntfsmount has still some restrictions, data safety should not be in risk, especially if you make regular backups with ntfsclone. That doesn't mean it always succeeds, it is still experimental and might just as well refuse to complete an operation in order to prevent corruption. See the ntfsmount page for more details. How safe is the NTFS Driver? We aren’t aware of any reliability problem either in the NTFS kernel driver, or in ntfsmount. But we do have lots of positive feedbacks. Miark That's news to me. I was still treating the driver like it was read-only. Looks like it's time to get a little bit more fancy. :) LX -- °°° When the ax entered the forest, the trees said, The handle is one of us! -- Turkish proverb Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Saturday, 30 December 2006 00:25, ET wrote: Fr. Johnny Shepherd wrote: (maybe we shoulda started a new thread with a new question in the subject,,, but snipping oughta help some) snip a bunch To your statement about installing Knoppix to the Hard Drive I have been reading that Knoppix does better running from the CD/DVD but does not do well when installed to the Hard drive. Is this right or wrong? I ain't all that keen on knoppix installed to the hdd, and would far rather install Mandriva via the mandrake one install, knoppix installed on the hard drive is debian... S'right. I have a friend who has all his clients running on Knoppix installed Debian boxes. It's as good a method of installing Debian as any. The Knoppix DVD has most of what anyone really needs in terms of software, too. cheers Duncan Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a couple times. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Monday, January 1, 2007, 11:44:00 AM, Miark wrote: M On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? M Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, M so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done M safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a M couple times. Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. -- Thanks, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 11:44:00 AM, Miark wrote: M On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? M Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, M so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done M safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a M couple times. Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. there are commercial products to do this, or you can do it over the network. Ultimate boot disk for gets around this by using the NTFS lic on the windows partition. there is more than one (more than 3) versions of NTFS... -- reg. Linux User 167806 webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Monday, January 1, 2007, 12:54:59 PM, ET wrote: E rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 11:44:00 AM, Miark wrote: M On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? M Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, M so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done M safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a M couple times. Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. E there are commercial products to do this, Last I checked they were fairly expensive... E or you can do it over the network. That, I presume, uses the M$ code at the other end. I do that kind of thing now, unless you're referring to something else. E Ultimate boot disk for gets around this by using the NTFS lic on E the windows partition. Are you saying UBD uses the code on the Win disk? The case I am interested in has ntfs partitions but Win is not on them - just data files. Are you suggesting this is just a licensing issue, or is there a tech part? E there is more than one (more than 3) versions of NTFS... I can believe M$ comes out with a new 'upgrade' every time the linux folks are able to write reliably. :-(( -- Thanks, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 12:54:59 PM, ET wrote: E rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 11:44:00 AM, Miark wrote: M On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? M Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, M so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done M safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a M couple times. Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. E there are commercial products to do this, Last I checked they were fairly expensive... E or you can do it over the network. That, I presume, uses the M$ code at the other end. I do that kind of thing now, unless you're referring to something else. E Ultimate boot disk for gets around this by using the NTFS lic on E the windows partition. Are you saying UBD uses the code on the Win disk? The case I am interested in has ntfs partitions but Win is not on them - just data files. Are you suggesting this is just a licensing issue, or is there a tech part? E there is more than one (more than 3) versions of NTFS... I can believe M$ comes out with a new 'upgrade' every time the linux folks are able to write reliably. :-(( you might check into making the UBDW, seems to me I remember there are a few files to copy off the winbox you want to write to... http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm -- reg. Linux User 167806 webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Monday, January 1, 2007, 1:56:51 PM, ET wrote: E rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 12:54:59 PM, ET wrote: E rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 11:44:00 AM, Miark wrote: M On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? M Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, M so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done M safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a M couple times. Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. E there are commercial products to do this, Last I checked they were fairly expensive... E or you can do it over the network. That, I presume, uses the M$ code at the other end. I do that kind of thing now, unless you're referring to something else. E Ultimate boot disk for gets around this by using the NTFS lic on E the windows partition. Are you saying UBD uses the code on the Win disk? The case I am interested in has ntfs partitions but Win is not on them - just data files. Are you suggesting this is just a licensing issue, or is there a tech part? E there is more than one (more than 3) versions of NTFS... I can believe M$ comes out with a new 'upgrade' every time the linux folks are able to write reliably. :-(( E you might check into making the UBDW, seems to me I remember there E are a few files to copy off the winbox you want to write to... E http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm Apparently so. Nice project. Looks like this is rather different in some ways, especially in booting to a mini XP environment. Doesn't sound like it's really linux. :-) Might be able to answer some of my needs, but I was looking for a 'real' linux. Also, I have so far avoided XP, so I don't have the necessary files. :-( and :-) -- Thanks, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Monday, January 1, 2007 5:21:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? On Monday, January 1, 2007, 1:56:51 PM, ET wrote: E rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 12:54:59 PM, ET wrote: E rikona wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2007, 11:44:00 AM, Miark wrote: M On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:40:23 -0800, rikona wrote: M Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) ...It is a matter of reliability, as I understand it. Several linuxes will write ntfs, but occasionally might trash the file system beyond repair. Is Knoppix known to be 'bullet-proof' on ntfs writes? M Pretty much. It (whatever it is) will only do what is reliable, M so if you try to write or delete a file and it cannot be done M safely, then it just doesn't do it. It's happened to me only a M couple times. Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. E there are commercial products to do this, Last I checked they were fairly expensive... E or you can do it over the network. That, I presume, uses the M$ code at the other end. I do that kind of thing now, unless you're referring to something else. E Ultimate boot disk for gets around this by using the NTFS lic on E the windows partition. Are you saying UBD uses the code on the Win disk? The case I am interested in has ntfs partitions but Win is not on them - just data files. Are you suggesting this is just a licensing issue, or is there a tech part? E there is more than one (more than 3) versions of NTFS... I can believe M$ comes out with a new 'upgrade' every time the linux folks are able to write reliably. :-(( E you might check into making the UBDW, seems to me I remember there E are a few files to copy off the winbox you want to write to... E http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm Apparently so. Nice project. Looks like this is rather different in some ways, especially in booting to a mini XP environment. Doesn't sound like it's really linux. :-) Might be able to answer some of my needs, but I was looking for a 'real' linux. Also, I have so far avoided XP, so I don't have the necessary files. :-( and :-) ---cjs reply--- What do you mean by a real linux? theres no such thing as a fake linux (yet) ---end of reply--- -- Thanks, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:39:29 -0800 (PST), CJ wrote: Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? I don't know as I've never tried anything that extensive. I usually do 10 or 20 files at a time that are no more than a few MB large. Even though I trust it, I wouldn't do any 100 GB transfers without a backup. Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. Documentation is here: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ and here are a couple of quotes from the site: Ntfsmount has almost full feature write support. It can resize, create and delete files and directories and even operate on symlinks, devices, FIFOs and sockets. Though ntfsmount has still some restrictions, data safety should not be in risk, especially if you make regular backups with ntfsclone. That doesn't mean it always succeeds, it is still experimental and might just as well refuse to complete an operation in order to prevent corruption. See the ntfsmount page for more details. How safe is the NTFS Driver? We aren’t aware of any reliability problem either in the NTFS kernel driver, or in ntfsmount. But we do have lots of positive feedbacks. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:21:44 -0800, rikona wrote: E http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm Might be able to answer some of my needs, but I was looking for a 'real' linux. Also, I have so far avoided XP, so I don't have the necessary files. :-( and :-) What _exactly_ are your needs? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Monday, January 1, 2007, 9:04:11 PM, Miark wrote: M On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:39:29 -0800 (PST), CJ wrote: Very nice. Can you do massive writes reliably, like copying the contents [say 100,000 files/dirs] of a 100 Gig partition? M I don't know as I've never tried anything that extensive. I usually M do 10 or 20 files at a time that are no more than a few MB large. M Even though I trust it, I wouldn't do any 100 GB transfers without M a backup. Oops - I'm thinking of using it for backup/restore. :-( Is there any documentation on this, showing what can and can't be done? Or any fairly rigorous testing? I'm VERY interested in a linux that is bullet-proof with ntfs writes - particularly one that can be run from CD/DVD. M Documentation is here: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ A very informative site - thanks. Describes the rather fail-safe operation, which is nice. Says it does successful file creates about 50% of the time, but may have a limit of creating about 10 files in a directory. This looks like a big problem for large backup/restores though. :-(( -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Monday, January 1, 2007, 9:15:40 PM, Miark wrote: M On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:21:44 -0800, rikona wrote: M E http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm Might be able to answer some of my needs, but I was looking for a 'real' linux. Also, I have so far avoided XP, so I don't have the necessary files. :-( and :-) M What _exactly_ are your needs? I was thinking of using it either in conjunction with Acronis backup for Windows (reads and writes ntfs), or as a more versatile backup/restore solution that ties in with linux a bit better - selective backup/restore to either or both Win or linux. I'm currently using disk-tray-based storage and backups for both, and would like to mix them easily. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CK i havent tried mounting my ntfs hdd yet..ill get to that CK in a few minutes, but ill see if it will allow me to CK read/write to the hdd. DON'T WRITE TO THE ntfs HD! It is NOT reliable in linux. If you insist, make sure you have a complete backup of everything! Writing to NTFS is fine with Knoppix (I do it routinely) but for whatever reason, it can't be done--or done easily--in Mandriva. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:03:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. cjs reply Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be enabled. I never recommend taking off swap. end of reply the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks) were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping around and not able to keep up? cjs reply The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging. I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other sort of partition except ntfs. sure it will... what sort of drive is this? --cjs reply-- No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard drive only accepted NTFS I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it (Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with linux installed. it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is _required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition. don't instantly accept what a manufacturer tell you (do you count on getting the fuel mileage you car manufacturer told you the car gets? (been stuck lately) do you check the oil in your car as often as the owners manual says you MUST?) cjs reply ok first off, i believe i am running a hitachi (i cant open my chasis, my parents wont allow me, so i cant send ya the hdd. besides its teh only one ive got). Furthermore, i ran the windows partitioning utility and it only gave me the option of NTFS.. Furthermore, i tried running DEMO Linux (DEMO is the codename..) and some other distros (mandriva, ubuntu) and
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
ET wrote: CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:03:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. cjs reply Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be enabled. I never recommend taking off swap. end of reply the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks) were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping around and not able to keep up? cjs reply The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging. I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other sort of partition except ntfs. sure it will... what sort of drive is this? --cjs reply-- No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard drive only accepted NTFS I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it (Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with linux installed. it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is _required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition. don't instantly accept what a manufacturer tell you (do you count on getting the fuel mileage you car manufacturer told you the car gets? (been stuck lately) do you check the oil in your car as often as the owners manual says you MUST?) cjs reply ok first off, i believe i am running a hitachi (i cant open my chasis, my parents wont allow me, so i cant send ya the hdd. besides its teh only one ive got). Furthermore, i ran the windows partitioning utility and it only gave me the option of NTFS.. Furthermore, i tried running DEMO Linux (DEMO is the codename..) and some other distros
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:19:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:03:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. cjs reply Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be enabled. I never recommend taking off swap. end of reply the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks) were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping around and not able to keep up? cjs reply The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging. I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other sort of partition except ntfs. sure it will... what sort of drive is this? --cjs reply-- No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard drive only accepted NTFS I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it (Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with linux installed. it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is _required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition. don't instantly accept what a manufacturer tell you (do you count on getting the fuel mileage you car manufacturer told you the car gets? (been stuck lately) do you check the oil in your car as often as the owners manual says you MUST?) cjs reply ok first off, i
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Friday, December 29, 2006, 10:21:39 AM, CJ Kelley wrote: CK i havent tried mounting my ntfs hdd yet..ill get to that in a few CK minutes, but ill see if it will allow me to read/write to the hdd. DON'T WRITE TO THE ntfs HD! It is NOT reliable in linux. If you insist, make sure you have a complete backup of everything! -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message From: CJ Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:21:39 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:19:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:03:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. cjs reply Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be enabled. I never recommend taking off swap. end of reply the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks) were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping around and not able to keep up? cjs reply The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging. I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other sort of partition except ntfs. sure it will... what sort of drive is this? --cjs reply-- No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard drive only accepted NTFS I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it (Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with linux installed. it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is _required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition. don't instantly accept what a
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: CJ Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:21:39 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:19:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:03:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. cjs reply Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be enabled. I never recommend taking off swap. end of reply the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks) were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping around and not able to keep up? cjs reply The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging. I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other sort of partition except ntfs. sure it will... what sort of drive is this? --cjs reply-- No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard drive only accepted NTFS I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it (Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with linux installed. it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is _required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition. don't
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Friday 29 December 2006 15:25, ET wrote: knoppix installed on the hard drive is debian... Nothing wrong with Debian..it's just different Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Friday 29 December 2006 15:31, ET wrote: Grumpy_Penguin wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 15:25, ET wrote: knoppix installed on the hard drive is debian... Nothing wrong with Debian..it's just different would you want some windoze user who is attempting to try and learn linux to install debian as their first try with linux? even from knoppix... got a point there.. give him a few months ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:46:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? On Friday, December 29, 2006, 10:21:39 AM, CJ Kelley wrote: CK i havent tried mounting my ntfs hdd yet..ill get to that in a few CK minutes, but ill see if it will allow me to read/write to the hdd. DON'T WRITE TO THE ntfs HD! It is NOT reliable in linux. If you insist, make sure you have a complete backup of everything! cjs reply ok. just to clear something up, would it be safe to write to a FAT16/32 file system? end of reply -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:46:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? On Friday, December 29, 2006, 10:21:39 AM, CJ Kelley wrote: CK i havent tried mounting my ntfs hdd yet..ill get to that in a few CK minutes, but ill see if it will allow me to read/write to the hdd. DON'T WRITE TO THE ntfs HD! It is NOT reliable in linux. If you insist, make sure you have a complete backup of everything! cjs reply ok. just to clear something up, would it be safe to write to a FAT16/32 file system? end of reply yes fat is fine, just recognize fat does not have any file permissions beyond 'rash' Read only, Archive, System, and Hidden no files are owned by a user, and can be accessed by anyone permitted to access the partition. a lot of folks use a fat32 partition to store files between the OSs when having a dual boot install, but it's not a good idea to run linux from a fat file system... -- reg. Linux User 167806 webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
On Friday 29 December 2006 15:50, CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:46:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? On Friday, December 29, 2006, 10:21:39 AM, CJ Kelley wrote: CK i havent tried mounting my ntfs hdd yet..ill get to that in a few CK minutes, but ill see if it will allow me to read/write to the hdd. DON'T WRITE TO THE ntfs HD! It is NOT reliable in linux. If you insist, make sure you have a complete backup of everything! cjs reply ok. just to clear something up, would it be safe to write to a FAT16/32 file system? end of reply No problem Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:31:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? Grumpy_Penguin wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 15:25, ET wrote: knoppix installed on the hard drive is debian... Nothing wrong with Debian..it's just different would you want some windoze user who is attempting to try and learn linux to install debian as their first try with linux? even from knoppix... cjs reply it would be best for a first-time linux user NOT TO USE DEBIAN on there first try. i made the mistake of doing that once before... i tried installing debian on a clean hard drive and i had absolutely NO LINUX EXPERIENCE when i did. The version of debian that i tried to install was Debian i386 Codenamed woody. it had trouble detecting my hardware and would not start the X server. i had absolutely no clue what to do. Appearently my video card was having problems with the X server and that was what was causing the error to occur. I got a redhat linux book and that made absolutely no sense..i think i still have that book somewhere. it talked alot about setting up redhat and using it and so on. so i finially gave up debian and contacted a friend who referred me to Mandrake 10.1 (this was a long time ago). I still had no experience with linux. Installing mandrake was easy and mandrake worked perfectly with all of my hardware. Furthermore, the Mandrake that i was using came with KDE, so that made using linux so much easier and the X server worked! At the time i was running a 800mhz micronPC with 256mb RAM, 27gig Hard Disk, 32mb nVidia TNT2 Pro, and an Internal Sound Blaster, All the hardware in my computer worked like a charm with mandrake. And furthermore, since it had KDE installed, it made it easier for the newbie to learn how to use the linux interface. So thats why i think that mandriva is the best linux for those who know very little or have no knowledge of linux, to use end of reply -- reg. Linux User 167806 webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:55:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:46:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? On Friday, December 29, 2006, 10:21:39 AM, CJ Kelley wrote: CK i havent tried mounting my ntfs hdd yet..ill get to that in a few CK minutes, but ill see if it will allow me to read/write to the hdd. DON'T WRITE TO THE ntfs HD! It is NOT reliable in linux. If you insist, make sure you have a complete backup of everything! cjs reply ok. just to clear something up, would it be safe to write to a FAT16/32 file system? end of reply yes fat is fine, just recognize fat does not have any file permissions beyond 'rash' Read only, Archive, System, and Hidden no files are owned by a user, and can be accessed by anyone permitted to access the partition. a lot of folks use a fat32 partition to store files between the OSs when having a dual boot install, but it's not a good idea to run linux from a fat file system... cjs reply yah its best to run linux off of a linux partition end of reply -- reg. Linux User 167806 webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote: - Original Message From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that? I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. cjs reply Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be enabled. I never recommend taking off swap. end of reply the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks) were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping around and not able to keep up? -- reg. Linux User 167806 webhome http://ed-tharp.is-a-geek.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
- Original Message
From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way
to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote:
- Original Message
From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
there a way to reduce that?
I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and
noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about
390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512
installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh
video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into
its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and
what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of
the processes looked like system processes.
Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i
was using the live cd) ?
How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading
when mandriva loads?
--cj
Hi,
you can check exactly how much ram your system use by
typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use
KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good
idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same
like pagefile in Win.
For example there is my system:
free
total used free shared
buffers cached
Mem:288088 283544 4544 0
17272 150948
-/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764
Swap: 578332 0 578332
You can see that my available physical memory is about
4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it
can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with
swapon command (check man swapon for more info).
Have a good one!
G.S.
cjs reply
Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign
it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be
enabled. I never recommend taking off swap.
end of reply
the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS
is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be
quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so
much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks)
were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping
around and not able to keep up?
cjs reply
The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging.
I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory shared. I
dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard drive so i dot
think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still requires a swap
partition correct?) because i don't have any space left for a Linux partition.
Also, my hard drive will not accept any other sort of partition except ntfs.
The only way i can install Linux is to install a another hard drive or use a VM
(which i don't have enough ram to do such a thing in windows xp since i only
have like 100 mb ram left :{ ). However, i incidentally dropped my other hard
drive (it was a 5 foot fall) and it doesn't work anymore.
If i were to have another hard drive available i would definately install
mandriva, but would mandriva run on 100 - 200 mb ram (i have aprogram that
allows me to compress the files in my ram, so i can get up to 280 mb out of it,
but xp runs really slow after optimizing my ram)
end of reply
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Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote:
- Original Message
From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote:
- Original Message
From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
there a way to reduce that?
I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and
noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about
390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512
installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh
video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into
its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and
what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of
the processes looked like system processes.
Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i
was using the live cd) ?
How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading
when mandriva loads?
--cj
Hi,
you can check exactly how much ram your system use by
typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use
KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good
idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same
like pagefile in Win.
For example there is my system:
free
total used free shared
buffers cached
Mem:288088 283544 4544 0
17272 150948
-/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764
Swap: 578332 0 578332
You can see that my available physical memory is about
4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it
can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with
swapon command (check man swapon for more info).
Have a good one!
G.S.
cjs reply
Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign
it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be
enabled. I never recommend taking off swap.
end of reply
the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS
is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be
quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so
much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks)
were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping
around and not able to keep up?
cjs reply
The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging.
I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory
shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard
drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still
requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left
for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other
sort of partition except ntfs.
sure it will... what sort of drive is this?
The only way i can install Linux is to install a another hard drive or
use a VM (which i don't have enough ram to do such a thing in windows xp
since i only have like 100 mb ram left :{ ). However, i incidentally
dropped my other hard drive (it was a 5 foot fall) and it doesn't work
anymore.
If i were to have another hard drive available i would definately
install mandriva, but would mandriva run on 100 - 200 mb ram (i have
aprogram that allows me to compress the files in my ram, so i can get up
to 280 mb out of it, but xp runs really slow after optimizing my ram)
forget what you know about how ram is used in XP when in Linux. they
have completly different ways of using ram, and a ram opitmizer for XP
will do nothing for you (except screw the pooch) in linux. (imho, M$ ram
managers are all broken)
you may be able to install on free space, if you run scan disk and
defrag in MS first, so all the data is moved to one end of the disk, but
you should allow about 10 gigs for either OS, then extra for data.
256 megs ram should be fine, even with shared video memory...
--
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Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote:
- Original Message
From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:39:09 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote:
- Original Message
From: ET [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:51:47 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
there a way to reduce that?
CJ Kelley wrote:
- Original Message
From: Georgi Stoynev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@mandrivalinux.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is
there a way to reduce that?
I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and
noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about
390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512
installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh
video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into
its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and
what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of
the processes looked like system processes.
Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i
was using the live cd) ?
How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading
when mandriva loads?
--cj
Hi,
you can check exactly how much ram your system use by
typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use
KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good
idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same
like pagefile in Win.
For example there is my system:
free
total used free shared
buffers cached
Mem:288088 283544 4544 0
17272 150948
-/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764
Swap: 578332 0 578332
You can see that my available physical memory is about
4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it
can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with
swapon command (check man swapon for more info).
Have a good one!
G.S.
cjs reply
Since i do not have a linux partition on my hard drive (and im runnign
it on the live cd) i cant use swap. but by default, swap will be
enabled. I never recommend taking off swap.
end of reply
the live CD creates as large a dynamic ram disk as is possible, the OS
is all in memory all the time, you will find that opening files will be
quicker in the hard drive install (hard drive seek and reads being so
much quicker than CDrom reads and seeks)
were you having low ram problems like the the mouse curser jumping
around and not able to keep up?
cjs reply
The mouse was a bit choppy, but it wasn't like it was lagging.
I'm running a celeron 3.22 ghz (512k l2 cache), with 512 mb memory
shared. I dont have any available partitioning space left on the hard
drive so i dot think i can install mandriva (if im right, mandriva still
requires a swap partition correct?) because i don't have any space left
for a Linux partition. Also, my hard drive will not accept any other
sort of partition except ntfs.
sure it will... what sort of drive is this?
--cjs reply--
No, this hard disk is only ntfs compatible..i ran a partitioning program
on this disk (it was not an OEM partitioner) and it said that this hard
drive only accepted NTFS
I have not seen such a thing before. what brand of hard drive is it
(Western digital? M$?) most likely that's just bull. send it to me, and
for 20 buck's i will prove them wrong andleave you a hard drive with
linux installed.
it can only use NTFS _if_ a Microsoft compatible file system is
_required_ that is larger than 40 gigs per partition.
don't instantly accept what a manufacturer tell you (do you count on
getting the fuel mileage you car manufacturer told you the car gets?
(been stuck lately) do you check the oil in your car as often as the
owners manual says you MUST?)
--end of reply--
The only way i can install Linux is to install a another hard drive or
use a VM (which i don't have enough ram to do such a thing in windows xp
since i only have like 100 mb ram left :{ ). However, i incidentally
dropped my other hard drive (it was a 5 foot fall) and it doesn't work
anymore.
If i were to have another hard drive available i would definately
install mandriva, but would mandriva run on 100 - 200 mb ram (i have
aprogram that allows me to compress the files in my ram, so i can get up
to 280 mb out of it, but xp runs really slow after optimizing my ram)
forget what you know about how ram is used in XP when in Linux. they
have completly different ways of using ram, and a ram opitmizer for XP
will do nothing for you (except screw the pooch) in linux.
Re: [newbie] Too much ram consumption in mandriva 2007. is there a way to reduce that?
I ran the mandriva live cd (the 1 cd distro) and noticed that it consumed a large chunk of ram (about 390 megs.) and left me with 4 megs of ram (i have 512 installed and 128 megs of that is consumed by teh video card..yes i do have shared video). I went into its task manager to see howmuch it was consuming and what processes i could clsoe out. A great majority of the processes looked like system processes. Would the installed mandriva take less ram (since i was using the live cd) ? How can i keep un-necessary processes from loading when mandriva loads? --cj Hi, you can check exactly how much ram your system use by typing free in the terminal(Konsole if you use KDE).Do you have swap partition enabled?If not,is good idea to create one.Swap is virtual memory,the same like pagefile in Win. For example there is my system: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem:288088 283544 4544 0 17272 150948 -/+ buffers/cache: 115324 172764 Swap: 578332 0 578332 You can see that my available physical memory is about 4.5MB.Anyway,this doesn't effect my work,because it can use the swap partition.You can enable swap with swapon command (check man swapon for more info). Have a good one! G.S. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com
