Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-19 Thread afroTsiac
Perhaps in Las Vegas, like "One Nite Alone" at the Aladdin?

T


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> And here I thought "All the Critics Love him in NY"  ROFL
>
>
>
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>
> Agreed. My review of Planet  Earth is: "what IS this?" These are
> definitely the rehearsal sessions from Rainbow Children and Musicology.
> I'm happy to hear him playing interesting guitar a little more, but I
> wish he'd play more guitar on less hokey songs.
>
> Couldn't he have sold Sony that C-Note album or something? Rainbow
> Children?
> Then maybe people would actually HEAR that album? This Sony/Motown stuff
> is hard to listen to. I am clearly an indie label Prince fan, I guess,
> because this is two of these crappy albums in a ROW. I hope he has some
> bootleg something planned.
>
> That being  said, I think it would take "Sign O The Times Part 2" to
> please some of us fans. We're really hard on him. I know I am. But
> that's what happens.
>
>  didn't know what to expect. I was really hoping for a SOTT Part 2. PE is
> a great title track and it would of been nice if he Prince had built on
> that.
>
> Maybe if he was a more worldly person. I he needs to get out and be the
> streets again. Visit a third world country. Experience the life when you
> don't have millions of dollars to comfort you. He is way too shelters.
> Worry too much about the music industry and not the art that pays the
> bills. I am sorry but I can't relate anymore.  -Derek>
>
>
>> 
>> home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only
>> difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely
>> dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would
>> have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in
>
>> an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from
>> TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>
>>
>

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-19 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC
I have brand new copies of both, but I won't open them.

Glad I did save those to my computer - especially Parade.  (I keep
saying I'm gonna copy everything and never did)  One of these days, I'm
really gonna hate myself for not doing it earlier.

Wish I were a real computer buff to "fix" some of my files.  Like the
ones that shall remain unmentioned :-/




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You know if my CD copies of ATWIAD and Parade weren't so sh*tty, I'd
probably listen to them more often.





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"::M::A::Y::A::" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think when you listen
to something over and over again, It's not any
better than the first time around.  You just warm up to it because you
become accustomed to listening to it.

Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen.  If
I
have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about
it,
then the song isn't doing it's job.

I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it.

It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's
capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE.


that album right away. Now its one of my favorites. Especially after I
started learning more about music. Then I started to really understand
it
as a whole  -Derek>


loven happiness  wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because
something doesn't move you on
first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its
genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In
fact,
I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others
(like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely.

I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music
by
other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to
move
you.


appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the
album. I guess there is a time and place for everything  -Derek>

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-19 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC
Hearing something live really does make a difference.  That's too true.


However, still it has to catch me in some kind of way around the first
two go rounds, after that. :-/



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Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you
on first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate
its genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In
fact, I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are
others (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely.

I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music
by other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to
move you.




You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/


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I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the
foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too,
both critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read:
expensive) shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to
mediocre reviews (in the press) at best.

I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs
have the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder
what this pretty little man is thinking?



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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-19 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC
And here I thought "All the Critics Love him in NY"  ROFL



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Agreed. My review of Planet  Earth is: "what IS this?" These are
definitely the rehearsal sessions from Rainbow Children and Musicology.
I'm happy to hear him playing interesting guitar a little more, but I
wish he'd play more guitar on less hokey songs.

Couldn't he have sold Sony that C-Note album or something? Rainbow
Children?
Then maybe people would actually HEAR that album? This Sony/Motown stuff
is hard to listen to. I am clearly an indie label Prince fan, I guess,
because this is two of these crappy albums in a ROW. I hope he has some
bootleg something planned.

That being  said, I think it would take "Sign O The Times Part 2" to
please some of us fans. We're really hard on him. I know I am. But
that's what happens.




>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only
> difference is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely
> dissapointed in PE. You would think after taking a year off he would
> have some strong material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in

> an album of 10 tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from
> TRC, ONA, Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>
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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-19 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC
No Harm, but there isn't a complete Prince CD that I totally love.

But can't comment, because I can't hear it at WORK!!!...LOL



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I loved Chaos & Disorder

Robin aka CherryMoon



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This sucks.  I'll have to wait until I get home.

Robin aka CherryMoon



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Hi!

I'm currently listening to it right now at:
http://music.msn.com/music/ListeningBooth?GT1=10190

Yolanda

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC


Uh - NO!!  :-P




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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread Oliver, Damon
It just seems maybe instead being innovative, its more routine. Used to
be a time where most of the songs on an album were good to great and
then he would have B side that would be killer, now its maybe two songs
and the rest are fillers.



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Regardless of what musical style made the term iconic in music; we know
Prince is just using religious imagery in the same way he's done
countless time. I mean how is this any different than the song "7";
which is full of religious imagery.  As for it being used for something
trivial; I don't know. I read the lyrics someone transcribed and while
I'm not exactly sure what he's singing about exactly; doesn't sound
trivial :)

Victor

NPS wrote:
> Of course I understand that it has Biblical origins... still its
invocation
> in popular music was pretty much made iconic in roots reggae.  And no
matter
> what the origins, his use of the term for something trivial is clumsy.
The
> Lion of Judah will slay his enemies?  What enemies?  Sony BMG?  The UK
> Retailers? hahahahahahahah
>
>
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread fairtink


Either that, or you "grew" on her. ;-P hehe

T
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Oh Lawd, I must be having a relapse or something.  :-0  I couldn't agree
more

CM




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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread Victor

Regardless of what musical style made the term iconic in music; we know
Prince is just using religious imagery in the same way he's done
countless time. I mean how is this any different than the song "7";
which is full of religious imagery.  As for it being used for something
trivial; I don't know. I read the lyrics someone transcribed and while
I'm not exactly sure what he's singing about exactly; doesn't sound
trivial :)

Victor

NPS wrote:

Of course I understand that it has Biblical origins... still its invocation
in popular music was pretty much made iconic in roots reggae.  And no matter
what the origins, his use of the term for something trivial is clumsy.  The
Lion of Judah will slay his enemies?  What enemies?  Sony BMG?  The UK
Retailers? hahahahahahahah


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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC



Oh Lawd, I must be having a relapse or something.  :-0  I couldn't agree
more

CM




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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread NPS
I felt the same way about Parade.  In fact it took me about 10 years before
I could appreciate Parade.  At the time of its release, I was looking for
something else (more along the lines of Kiss--a very misleading single in
terms of representativeness of the album) and was disappointed by Parade.
Only years later have I come to appreciate that album in all its
intricacies.

Not saying Planet Earth is a Parade.  But it IS interesting.  There are
enough standout tracks for me, and the rest, I'll give them a spin every now
and then.  I'll give it a chance to see if it's a grower.



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> Yo..I hated 1999, PR, Parade and Lovesexy upon first listen. "Grow  on me"
> is not a derogatory term regarding the music. We in this age  are so quick
> to
> take a spin, listen to downloads, leaks etc and then be "meh, it  stinks!"
> without giving the music a chance to  mentally marinate..to take  it to a
> bbq for
> example and have an experience with it to engage you into  the music. Not
> giving an excuse for crap music but come on now. Princes jams the  last
> decade
> haven't been THAT bad.
>
>  buy albums anymore why? Because there are maybe 1 or 2 songs on it that I
> actually like after a few listens. Not worth my 9.99 to 18.99. btw why is
> the msrp of Planet Earth 18.99?!? What crack is Sony smoking? No wonder
> there mad LOL -Derek>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/17/07 12:01:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>  I
> noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not  very
> good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has
> to  grow
> on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash  myself
> into liking it...-Derek>
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread TA
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I've always said that listening to a new Prince album for the first time is
like an adventure. You're never sure exactly what you're in for, and Planet
Earth is no exception. Unfortunately this is one adventure that isn't worth
the trip. It has it's moments, but it also has more than its share of duds
which weighs it down. 

Sometimes I really have to wonder what's going through Prince's head.
Between the whole British newspaper thing and the album itself, it's as if
he's trying to deliberately jeopardize distribution deals. What major label
will want to distribute future releases? 

Sure, I'll by the CD when it's released and maybe I'll hear something
different then, but for now I'm really disappointed. 

P.S. What's all this nonsense lately about Prince and Beyonce?

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-18 Thread NPS
Of course I understand that it has Biblical origins... still its invocation
in popular music was pretty much made iconic in roots reggae.  And no matter
what the origins, his use of the term for something trivial is clumsy.  The
Lion of Judah will slay his enemies?  What enemies?  Sony BMG?  The UK
Retailers? hahahahahahahah


On 7/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The term does predate Rastafarianism and Bob Marley so I'm sure his use
> of the phrase isn't intended to evoke either.
>
> Victor
>
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> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:14 pm
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>
> > I do think that musically it is much more interesting than
> > Musicology and
> > 3121, in terms of production, arrangements, and composition.  But
> > yeah the
> > lyrics are really clumsy at points.  I especially cringed at "Lion of
> > Judah"--coming from a Caribbean background drenched in
> > Rastafarianism &
> > roots reggae, you don't invoke the "Lion of Judah" for some trivial
> > shitabout a girl.  "Slay my enemies"--wha?  Bob Marley is
> > spinning in his
> > grave.
> >

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread vbuttaro
The term does predate Rastafarianism and Bob Marley so I'm sure his use
of the phrase isn't intended to evoke either.

Victor

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> I do think that musically it is much more interesting than 
> Musicology and
> 3121, in terms of production, arrangements, and composition.  But 
> yeah the
> lyrics are really clumsy at points.  I especially cringed at "Lion of
> Judah"--coming from a Caribbean background drenched in 
> Rastafarianism &
> roots reggae, you don't invoke the "Lion of Judah" for some trivial 
> shitabout a girl.  "Slay my enemies"--wha?  Bob Marley is 
> spinning in his
> grave.
> 

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Victor
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Gotta disagree with you Derek, the album actually doesn't suck except 
for that annoying "Mr Good Night" song. :)  There were two song I really 
hated on 3121 and there probably 1 1/2 songs I can do without on PE.

As for the Chaos & Disorder comparison..Chaos & Disorder is actually a 
good album IMHO. Of course I prefer my Prince being his own eclectic 
self rather than Prince trying to imitate the crappy popular music 
that's "hip" with the kids today.

Prince DOES need to forget about what might be popular with the rest of 
the world and get back to doing HIS music though. Sit down with Wendy & 
Lisa (or alone since we know he can do it) and produce a quirky Prince 
album. And NO I don't mean another Purple Rain. I'm thinking more 
"Lovesexy" or "Come".

Victor



Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC wrote:
> This sucks.  I'll have to wait until I get home.
>
> Robin aka CherryMoon
>
>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference 
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in

> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong 
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10 
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA, 
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>
>
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>
> Hi!
>
> I'm currently listening to it right now at:
> http://music.msn.com/music/ListeningBooth?GT1=10190
>
> Yolanda
> 

-- 
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread NPS
I do think that musically it is much more interesting than Musicology and
3121, in terms of production, arrangements, and composition.  But yeah the
lyrics are really clumsy at points.  I especially cringed at "Lion of
Judah"--coming from a Caribbean background drenched in Rastafarianism &
roots reggae, you don't invoke the "Lion of Judah" for some trivial shit
about a girl.  "Slay my enemies"--wha?  Bob Marley is spinning in his
grave.

On 7/17/07, NPS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dayum, D!
>
> I think that's pretty harsh.  I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but I do
> think the music on it is a lot more interesting (in terms of bridges, key
> changes, solos, and orchestration) than Musicology and 3121, especially on
> tracks like "Planet Earth" and "Somewhere Here On Earth"--two of my
> favorite
> tracks on the album.  My other favorites are "Future Baby Mama" and
> "Chelsea
> Rodgers"--one a classic and classy slow jam (even if it has a ghetto
> title)
> and the other a great dance track, something Prince hasn't successfully
> done
> in ages.
>
> I do think the lyrics on most of the album are pretty clumsy, heavy
> handed,
> and lack the kind of double entendre, creative word play, and poetry that
> Prince mastered early in his craft.
>
> All in all, it meets my 3-song minimum.
>
>
>  I was thinking that the other day. The arrangements rate higher to me then
> lyrics. For instance you can dance you Chelsea Rodgers as long as you
> tune out the lyrics and just dance.   -Derek>
>

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread RDHULL
Wow. That's really odd to me. Are you a music lover? One thing for sure is  
with that "immediate hate or love it" attitude is you could be a record  
executive lol


 
In a message dated 7/17/07 12:51:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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think  when you listen to something over and over again, It's not any 
better than  the first time around.  You just warm up to it because you 
become  accustomed to listening to it.

Imo, a great song is something that  moves you on your first listen.  If I 
have to listen to over and over  again and then decide how i feel about it, 
then the song isn't doing it's  job.


 



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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread RDHULL
In a message dated 7/17/07 12:13:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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Well,  now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on 
first  listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its 
genius.  


I don't think its necessary "genius." I can see appreciating it for  what it

is but not everything he does is genius (not saying you're saying that  but 
I'm just saying just in case lol)



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2007-07-17 Thread RDHULL
Yo..I hated 1999, PR, Parade and Lovesexy upon first listen. "Grow  on me"  
is not a derogatory term regarding the music. We in this age  are so quick
to 
take a spin, listen to downloads, leaks etc and then be "meh, it  stinks!" 
without giving the music a chance to  mentally marinate..to take  it to a
bbq for 
example and have an experience with it to engage you into  the music. Not 
giving an excuse for crap music but come on now. Princes jams the  last
decade 
haven't been THAT bad. 



 
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread loven happiness
I don't know if that's true. If you listen to the radio (which sadly I do 
periodically), the same songs are played over and over and over again. Not 
ONE of them that I hated did I grow to like. Accustomed to, maybe, but 
like, let alone appreciate? No. For example, anything at all by AKON. :) 
Even some of Prince's music has never grown into anything I enjoy. Rainbow 
Children in its entirety, "Jughead", You Got the Look..to name a few.

But sometimes, a new listen, a new time in your life, a new moodthat 
can change everything about how you hear something. Or read something. 
There have been books I could NOT get through. But later, for a variety of 
reasons, I'm picking it up again and getting into it.


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I think when you listen to something over and over again, It's not any
better than the first time around.  You just warm up to it because you
become accustomed to listening to it.

Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen.  If I
have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about it,
then the song isn't doing it's job.

I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it.

It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's
capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE.




loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just 
because something doesn't move you on
first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its
genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact,
I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others
(like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely.

I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by
other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move
you.


appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the
album. I guess there is a time and place for everything  -Derek>


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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread ::M::A::Y::A::
You know if my CD copies of ATWIAD and Parade weren't so sh*tty, I'd 
probably listen to them more often.





: M: : A: : Y: : A: : Tue Jul 17 12: 40: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED];;;, "::M::A::Y::A::" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think when 
you listen to something over and over again, It's not any
better than the first time around.  You just warm up to it because you
become accustomed to listening to it.

Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen.  If I
have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about it,
then the song isn't doing it's job.

I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it.

It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's
capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE.


that album right away. Now its one of my favorites. Especially after I
started learning more about music. Then I started to really understand it
as a whole  -Derek>


loven happiness  wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something 
doesn't move you on
first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its
genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact,
I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others
(like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely.

I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by
other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move
you.


appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the
album. I guess there is a time and place for everything  -Derek>


You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you
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I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the
foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both
critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive)
shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews
(in the press) at best.

I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have
the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this
pretty little man is thinking?


noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very
good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow
on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself
into liking it...   -Derek>

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread afroTsiac
I'm going to have to change my mindset.  Up until now, PE = Public Enemy to
me.

Tameir



On 7/17/07, Ben J. Brown Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Honestly, I think this entire album probably sounds better live. Think
> about
> it. How many of you were feeling the 3121.com version of "Guitar"? I was
> happier with the Planet Earth version personally. Maybe that is a part of
> his
> design (doubtful), but theres a good chance this sounded better when he
> performed them live than in studio.
>
> Oh well, now if we could just get a concert that isn't halfway across the
> country (or globe for that matter).
>
> 
> I like the PE version of Guitar better then the 3121.com version  -Derek>
>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:08:49 -0700>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to
> it.>
> To: npny@lists.panix.com> > Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because
> something doesn't move you on > first listen doesn't mean that at another
> time
> you can't appreciate its > genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me
> on
> first listen. (In fact, > I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of
> course,
> there are others > (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me
> completely.> > I think the same sort of thing can be said for books,
> movies
> and music by > other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for
> something to move > you.> >  TRC
> took a few years for me to > appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated
> better live then on the > album. I guess there is a time and place for
> everything -Derek>> >
> > You're so vain;
> I
> bet you think this all is about you....>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/> > > - Original
> Message > From: loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To:
> npny@lists.panix.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM> Subject:
> Re:
> NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.> > > I agree, too. It boggles the mind
> how
> he keeps shooting himself in the> foot like this. 3121 was wonderful.
> Musicology was a good album too, both> critically acclaimed. Now, after
> all
> these exclusive (read: expensive)> shows and a lot of wonderful press,
> this
> album arrives to mediocre reviews> (in the press) at best.> > I'll buy it
> too,
> maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have> the potential to
> grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this> pretty little
> man
> is
> thinking?> >  "Grow
> On Me". I> noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's
> not
> very> good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has
> to
> grow> on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash
> myself> into liking it... -Derek>> >

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread ::M::A::Y::A::
I think when you listen to something over and over again, It's not any 
better than the first time around.  You just warm up to it because you 
become accustomed to listening to it.

Imo, a great song is something that moves you on your first listen.  If I 
have to listen to over and over again and then decide how i feel about it, 
then the song isn't doing it's job.

I've listened to it about 3 times already and I'm not feeling it.

It's often hard to digest a new Prince album because you know what he's 
capable of and we get these half-baked efforts in 3121 and PE.




loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just 
because something doesn't move you on
first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its
genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact,
I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others
(like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely.

I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by
other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move
you.


appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated better live then on the
album. I guess there is a time and place for everything  -Derek>


You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/


- Original Message 
From: loven happiness
To: npny@lists.panix.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM
Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.


I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the
foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both
critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive)
shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews
(in the press) at best.

I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have
the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this
pretty little man is thinking?


noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not very
good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to grow
on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash myself
into liking it...   -Derek>


You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/


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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:19:17 PM
Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.


Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy it
when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime soon. And
that sucks because I LOVED 3121  and thought I had the "old" Prince back.
Susanna

>
> home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Ben J. Brown Jr.
Honestly, I think this entire album probably sounds better live. Think about
it. How many of you were feeling the 3121.com version of "Guitar"? I was
happier with the Planet Earth version personally. Maybe that is a part of his
design (doubtful), but theres a good chance this sounded better when he
performed them live than in studio.

Oh well, now if we could just get a concert that isn't halfway across the
country (or globe for that matter).



> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:08:49 -0700>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.>
To: npny@lists.panix.com> > Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because
something doesn't move you on > first listen doesn't mean that at another
time
you can't appreciate its > genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on
first listen. (In fact, > I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of
course,
there are others > (like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me
completely.> > I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies
and music by > other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for
something to move > you.> >  appreciate it. A lot of the tracks translated
better live then on the > album. I guess there is a time and place for
everything -Derek>> >
> You're so vain; I
bet you think this all is about you>
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/> > > - Original
Message > From: loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To:
npny@lists.panix.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM> Subject: Re:
NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.> > > I agree, too. It boggles the mind how
he keeps shooting himself in the> foot like this. 3121 was wonderful.
Musicology was a good album too, both> critically acclaimed. Now, after all
these exclusive (read: expensive)> shows and a lot of wonderful press, this
album arrives to mediocre reviews> (in the press) at best.> > I'll buy it
too,
maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have> the potential to
grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this> pretty little man
is
thinking?> >  noticed that term being used a lot on Prince fans lately. It's not
very> good, but it will grow on me. That is pretty sad that anything has to
grow> on anyone. Its like maybe if I less to it enough I will brainwash
myself> into liking it... -Derek>> >
> You're so vain; I
bet you think this all is about you>
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/> > > - Original
Message > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To:
npny@lists.panix.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:19:17 PM> Subject: Re:
NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.> > > Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I
agree
with you. I heard it and will buy it> when it comes out but probably won't
put
it back in cd player anytime soon. And> that sucks because I LOVED 3121 and
thought I had the "old" Prince back.> Susanna> > >  > home. Planet Earth is basically
Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference> > is they are a better choice of
songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in> > PE. You would think after
taking a year off he would have some strong> > material ready for release.
There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10> > tracks. I think most of these
tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,> > Musicology and 3121. -Derek>> >
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2007-07-17 Thread loven happiness
Well, now THAT I disagree with. Just because something doesn't move you on 
first listen doesn't mean that at another time you can't appreciate its 
genius. Some of my favorites totally missed me on first listen. (In fact, 
I'm already liking Mr. Goodnight :)) Then of course, there are others 
(like the entire RBC album) that continue to miss me completely.

I think the same sort of thing can be said for books, movies and music by 
other artists. Sometimes, you just have to be ready for something to move 
you.




You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/


- Original Message 
From: loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: npny@lists.panix.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:51:46 PM
Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.


I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the
foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both
critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive)
shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews
(in the press) at best.

I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have
the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this
pretty little man is thinking?




You're so vain; I bet you think this all is about you
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ICPC_NewEngland/


- Original Message 
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To: npny@lists.panix.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:19:17 PM
Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.


Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy it
when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime soon. And
that sucks because I LOVED 3121  and thought I had the "old" Prince back.
Susanna

>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>

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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Lockhart, Daryle [GSM]
I AM looking forward to the remixes of Chelsea Rodgers, now that you
mention it. Man if DJ Spinna gets a hold of that it's going to be CRAZY. I
will personally play a Chelsea Rodgers remix on Mobile Soul, but then my
show is a lot of house, so it fits. The rest of the album? I can't use.

It's really sad that I'm looking forward to someone else's version of  a
Prince song.


>
>  I was thinking that the other day. The arrangements rate higher to me then
> lyrics. For instance you can dance you Chelsea Rodgers as long as you
> tune out the lyrics and just dance.   -Derek>
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread loven happiness
I agree, too. It boggles the mind how he keeps shooting himself in the 
foot like this. 3121 was wonderful. Musicology was a good album too, both 
critically acclaimed. Now, after all these exclusive (read: expensive) 
shows and a lot of wonderful press, this album arrives to mediocre reviews 
(in the press) at best.

I'll buy it too, maniac that I am. Hopefully one or two of the songs have 
the potential to grow on me. Still, sometimes, don't you wonder what this 
pretty little man is thinking?




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Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.


Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy it
when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime soon. And
that sucks because I LOVED 3121  and thought I had the "old" Prince back.
Susanna

>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Oliver, Damon
I've listened to it and it definitely isnt a complete album of good
songs. For someone who is prolific on the guitar he sure doesn't utilize
it like in his live concerts.

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Subject: Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy
it
when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime
soon. And
that sucks because I LOVED 3121  and thought I had the "old" Prince
back.
Susanna

>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only
difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely
dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC


I loved Chaos & Disorder

Robin aka CherryMoon



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This sucks.  I'll have to wait until I get home.

Robin aka CherryMoon



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Hi!

I'm currently listening to it right now at:
http://music.msn.com/music/ListeningBooth?GT1=10190

Yolanda


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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Lockhart, Daryle [GSM]
Agreed. My review of Planet  Earth is: "what IS this?" These are definitely
the rehearsal sessions from Rainbow Children and Musicology. I'm happy to
hear him playing interesting guitar a little more, but I wish he'd play more
guitar on less hokey songs.

Couldn't he have sold Sony that C-Note album or something? Rainbow Children?
Then maybe people would actually HEAR that album? This Sony/Motown stuff is
hard to listen to. I am clearly an indie label Prince fan, I guess, because
this is two of these crappy albums in a ROW. I hope he has some bootleg
something planned.

That being  said, I think it would take "Sign O The Times Part 2" to  please
some of us fans. We're really hard on him. I know I am. But that's what
happens.




>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread NPS
Dayum, D!

I think that's pretty harsh.  I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but I do
think the music on it is a lot more interesting (in terms of bridges, key
changes, solos, and orchestration) than Musicology and 3121, especially on
tracks like "Planet Earth" and "Somewhere Here On Earth"--two of my favorite
tracks on the album.  My other favorites are "Future Baby Mama" and "Chelsea
Rodgers"--one a classic and classy slow jam (even if it has a ghetto title)
and the other a great dance track, something Prince hasn't successfully done
in ages.

I do think the lyrics on most of the album are pretty clumsy, heavy handed,
and lack the kind of double entendre, creative word play, and poetry that
Prince mastered early in his craft.

All in all, it meets my 3-song minimum.





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> This sucks.  I'll have to wait until I get home.
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>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>
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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread RDHULL
Derek, you have never liked anything Prince has done in over 5 years  lol



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Re: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Susanna8
Well Derek,,, Sadly I must say I agree with you. I heard it and will buy it
when it comes out but probably won't put it back in cd player anytime soon. And
that sucks because I LOVED 3121  and thought I had the "old" Prince back.
Susanna

>  home. Planet Earth is basically Chaos and Disorder Pt. 2. Only difference
> is they are a better choice of songs in PE. I am extremely dissapointed in
> PE. You would think after taking a year off he would have some strong
> material ready for release. There are maybe 3 gems in an album of 10
> tracks. I think most of these tracks ar left over from TRC, ONA,
> Musicology and 3121.  -Derek>

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RE: NPNY: Planet Earth...Listen to it.

2007-07-17 Thread Turner, Robin T Ms CIV USA AMC
This sucks.  I'll have to wait until I get home.

Robin aka CherryMoon



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