[NSP] Re: [nsp] re-conditioning ...
THANX Julia and Colin! I finally had the courage (had nightmares of the wood splitting apart) to pull out the heat gun. it worked easily! within a few minutes the joints let go ... aahhh ... there were 3 frozen joints - 1 is the joint with the valve that attaches to the bag. the other 2 were - both chanters into the adapter piece that fits into the main piece that fits in the bag. (having 2 different chanters, i could leave them in this adapter, and easily change the one i use) to answer your question... i live in the nw u.s.a. - a place known for it's humidity. for the verdigris. . . in this country we have a clear liquid ... rubbing or isopropyl alcohol. turns out it works to get rid of the green until now i have used, i thought successfully - cold press, extra virgin, olive oil. a while ago i remember there was some discussion of oils. . . i don't recall the favorites. which is your favorite oil? and Colin ... it turns out i have a favorite old (torn) silk shirt i couldn't throw out ... thanx for helping me find new life for it! thanx, again for your help victor On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 01:09, Julia Say [1]julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: On 8 Jan 2011, Victor Eskenazi wrote: my pipes have sat for too long 1 - the weather here is very damp Where is here (roughly)? turns out the joints are stuck. any suggestions on how to unstick them - without waiting for the right brief immersion in hot water or gently heating with a hot air gun on a lowish setting (depends on model), followed by a gentle twisting action. I'm assuming this is primarily the drone slides though the air gun would work on chanter stock joints too. Mind the chanter foot if it's plastic - the gun could melt it if used incautiously. And mind your fingers on any ferrule in the area you are heating. 2 - any suggestions on cleaning the green off the brass? Methylated spirit (the purple stuff in the UK -industrial alcohol elsewhere?), applied with a cloth, followed by brass polish. And don't use olive oil or keep your set shut in a box in the future - it aggravates the verdigris problem at the least. The jury is out on whether it actually causes it. Good luck Julia -- References 1. mailto:julia@nspipes.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] [nsp] re-conditioning ...
I'm ashamed to say ... but it has to be. my pipes have sat for too long. just took them out again. (yes, shame on me ... ) 2 areas are in need of help. 1 - the weather here is very damp. turns out the joints are stuck. any suggestions on how to unstick them - without waiting for the right few days in the middle of summer - would be helpful 2 - any suggestions on cleaning the green off the brass? thanx! i promise to be a better steward in the future... victor To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
forget the tattooing... i want to see the pierced bags... with studs and rings... victor On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 03:06, Richard York [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote: On 12/08/2010 11:05, Richard York wrote: Go on, someone plase suggest tattooing the bag :) R On 12/08/2010 11:01, Philip Gruar wrote: Does this still work if the skin is covered with tattoos? Philip - Original Message - From: Barry Say [1][2]barr...@nspipes.co.uk To: NSP group [2][3]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Bag cloth Does anyone remember a thread from the distant past when a now well-respected piper suggested playing in one's skin was a good way of discovering bellows leaks? Barry To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[5]barr...@nspipes.co.uk 2. mailto:[6]...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk 2. mailto:barr...@nspipes.co.uk 3. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. mailto:barr...@nspipes.co.uk 6. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
off the top of my head... velvet has some grip... don't want your bag to keep slipping... Victor On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 13:37, Richard York [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote: Greetings. I'm replacing the cover for my bag, due to replacing the leather bag with a longer necked one, which would otherwise poke out in an undignified way. I've only ever seen velvet used on bag covers so far. Is it just a fine tradition, or is there some reason why other cloths may be inappropriate? Has anyone out there any experience of other cloths and their potential drawbacks? If I do end up with a different cloth, do I get excommunicated, or burnt, or anything like that? Best wishes, Richard. To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
If you want to build your own, but don't have too much in the way of (electric) tools... I first made a skeleton/frame (1/1), then lay a thin sheet of plywood (1 side top grade) on top of it As you mention about cutting - this made the cutting much easier, I used a cheap, hand-held jig saw/scroll type saw. Of course, to make everything fit together nicer, I then put a 1 wide finishing strip, brass corners and rubber feet. I think it came out rather nice looking. Oh, then of course comes putting in the foam padding... Victor On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 01:39, Paul Gretton [1]i...@gretton-willems.com wrote: BTW, anyone thinking of building their own (wooden) case might benefit from the following tip: Don't make the two parts separately - the case itself and the lid -- and then try to fit them together. What the factories do is build the case closed and then saw it open to create the two parts. This makes the woodwork much simpler and you get a more accurate joint. I was only alerted to this AFTER already building a couple of cases. D'oh... J Cheers, Paul Gretton -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:i...@gretton-willems.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: pipe cases
Richard, If you modify your end plugs so that the outer parts are square, it will not roll around in the back of your car. Also, if you have any kind of a carrying strap affixed to it, that to will stop the rolling effect. Of course, depending on the slope of the river bank, anything will roll/fall into the river :-) Victor On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:30, Richard York [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote: I have a really useful lightweight case made from the ribbed black duct/pipe/tube whatever you may call it, about 6 or 7 inch internal diameter, which I rescued from surplus when they were laying new electric cables near us some 12 years ago. The nice man said that that pile was surplus offcuts, so I rescued some, and passed the other bits on to other pipers. (It no longer says East Midlands Electricity so clearly on it any more.) My dad kindly turned some wood into end plugs, one removable for the lid, fitting into a junction bit that was lying around. I wouldn't trust it with grenades, nor even squaddies jumping up down on it (does this guy really hate his case so much?) but in normal robust use it's great, light, and waterproof. And you can tie a carrying strap firmly into the corrugations of the outside layer without having to make any holes in it. The only down side is that it's prone to roll, in the back of the car, or if placed on a slope, so no putting it down on riverbanks, for example! Keep your eyes open when driving past roadworks. They come in various sizes. Mine carries a set of Jon Swayne mouthblown G pipes very happily. I also use a drainpipe sawn in half longways and hinged, which came with a very second hand bass curtal I bought ages ago. It's even been tastefully covered with Fablon (remember it?!) wood effect sticky vinyl to make it look more like a proper case! Lined with foam, it works a treat. Best wishes, Richard. colin wrote: I do recall, on another piping list, someone mentioning using a length of (wide) plastic drainpipe with a strap riveted on for carrying purposes (the ends being made from drainpipe end bits they use to seal off a pipe - the unused end being stuck with the solvent.. Of course, quite waterproof but one would have to ensure the bellows fitted in as well.. Colin Hill. PS Yeah, I remember the Dutch guy and his Pelican case. I think he also has his squad jumping up and down on it as well. All survived. To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Not Piping - closure of Instrument section of VA
Please, don't leave this to only Brits! There are people around the world that need to contribute our voices. Please set up a petition so that from around the world we can sign the petition! Thanx, Victor Eskenazi Renton, Washington, U.S.A. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 14:14, colin [1]cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I haven't seen this mentioned here but we made noises (and still are) when the bagpipe museum faced something similar. The information on the petition page says: The V A are intending to place in long-term storage its collection of historic musical instruments, which is unparalleled in the UK. The reason for this destruction, given by a V A spokesman, is so that the gallery can be redesigned to show the fashion collections. Musical instruments have been part of the collection since its inception in 1851: the museum has received adverse comment on this plan from curators worldwide. The removal is to take place in Spring 2010, and is a short-term decision which will have long-term negative results for scholars and music lovers alike.. Although not strictly pipes-based, I feel it's a further step to downgrading our musical heritage and the importance of the tradition of music and thought those on this list may wish to sign. Several other music lists I am on have done so already so sorry if this is a repeat. If anyone would like to sign the petition, it's at: [2]http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/VandAchange/ Colin Hill To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk 2. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/VandAchange/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: From notation to music
Was it the classical period...? Music was never fully written out as it is today. You were given the basic melody and the chord structure... Somewhere along the line things were dumbed down... Victor On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 01:58, Anthony Robb [1]anth...@robbpipes.com wrote: It would be weird if that's what our music is about. The essence of this music, however, is that we hear the stories, learn them, make them our own and reproduce them, not verbatim, but slightly differently as mood and memory serves. They have to become part of us; not something external interpreted from marks on a page. Once they are inside us it is very natural to share them with others. As aye Anthony --- On Tue, 1/12/09, [2]gibbonssoi...@aol.com [3]gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote: From: [4]gibbonssoi...@aol.com [5]gibbonssoi...@aol.com Subject: [NSP] Re: From notation to music To: [6]cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk, [7]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 0:38 But remembering the words of a speech, writing them down verbatim, then being unable to remember them again without reading the transcript is plain weird -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 2. mailto:gibbonssoi...@aol.com 3. mailto:gibbonssoi...@aol.com 4. mailto:gibbonssoi...@aol.com 5. mailto:gibbonssoi...@aol.com 6. mailto:cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk 7. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
