Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Marcus Chantry]

you win Roger!!


On 24/02/2012, at 6:25 PM, Rog & Reet wrote:

> “Question 4. You’re two nil down, how many goals do you need to score to get 
> a point?”
> “Whoa, whoa, slow down, it’s on the tip of my tongue”.
>  
>  
> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Marcus Chantry
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 4:09 PM
> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>  
> How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on 
> that photo. 
>  
> "duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache?"
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall  wrote:
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-smith
>  
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart  wrote:
> Spot on Matthew 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew  
> wrote:
> 
> And thats where we need some balance.
>  
> Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and 
> applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft 
> and guile. It didn't work.
>  
> Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition 
> for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation 
> where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers 
> that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the 
> complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and 
> experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of 
> Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the 
> time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and 
> Murray. The young and hungry policy suits M&M's 'business' goals and they see 
> these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can 
> be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch 
> which in turn transalates to increassed money off it.
>  
> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Steven Millward
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM
> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> 
> I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages.  We agree 
> fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann.  
> There must be others
>  
> Albion do the reverse.  A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay 
> more than us in wages.  As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the 
> contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost 
> on wages than transfers.
>  
> The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy 
> (which is another Morgan backed idea).  Young players cost more.  If we want 
> to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end 
> of their career.
> 
> On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew  wrote:
> I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve 
> the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high 
> level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we 
> are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not 
> about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less 
> cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 
> million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 
> million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 
> million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this.
>  
> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Steven Millward
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM
> 
> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>  
> I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him.  His instructions come 
> from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss.
>  
> Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when 
> almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this.  This 
> might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced.
>  
> Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season 
> with a 1m bonus if we stay up.  Would be well worthwhile and good money for 
> anyone.  The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid.  
> The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay 
> up. 
>  
> Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew  wrote:
> It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try 
> to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Sto

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Rog & Reet]

"Question 4. You're two nil down, how many goals do you need to score to get
a point?"
"Whoa, whoa, slow down, it's on the tip of my tongue".
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marcus Chantry
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 4:09 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
 
How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on
that photo. 
 
"duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache?"


Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall  wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-sm
ith 
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart  wrote:
Spot on Matthew 

Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew 
wrote:
And thats where we need some balance.
 
Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and
applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft
and guile. It didn't work.
 
Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition
for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation
where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers
that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the
complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and
experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of
Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the
time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and
Murray. The young and hungry policy suits M&M's 'business' goals and they
see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older
player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success
on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it.
 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages.  We
agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott
Dann.  There must be others
 
Albion do the reverse.  A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay
more than us in wages.  As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the
contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total
cost on wages than transfers.
 
The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy
(which is another Morgan backed idea).  Young players cost more.  If we want
to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end
of their career.
On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew 
wrote:
I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve
the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high
level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we
are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not
about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less
cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5
million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10
million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8
million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this.
 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM 

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
 
I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him.  His instructions come
from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a
loss.
 
Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when
almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this.  This
might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced.
 
Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season
with a 1m bonus if we stay up.  Would be well worthwhile and good money for
anyone.  The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid.
The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay
up.  
 
Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read.  
 


 
On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew 
wrote:
It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try
to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who
was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them
back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. 
 
I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on
Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a s

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Marcus Chantry]

How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on that 
photo. 

"duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache?"


Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall  wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-smith
>  
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart  wrote:
> Spot on Matthew 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew  
> wrote:
> 
>> And thats where we need some balance.
>>  
>> Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and 
>> applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both  graft 
>> and guile. It didn't work.
>>  
>> Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition 
>> for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation 
>> where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers 
>> that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the 
>> complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and 
>> experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of 
>> Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the 
>> time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and 
>> Murray. The young and hungry policy suits M&M's 'business' goals and they 
>> see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older 
>> player can be seen  as a sound investment though if they help bring success 
>> on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it.
>> 
>> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Steven Millward
>> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM
>> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages.  We 
>> agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott 
>> Dann.  There must be others
>>  
>> Albion do the reverse.  A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay 
>> more than us in wages.  As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the 
>> contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total 
>> cost on wages than transfers.
>>  
>> The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy 
>> (which is another Morgan backed idea).  Young players cost more.  If we want 
>> to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end 
>> of their career.
>> 
>> On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew  
>> wrote:
>> I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve 
>> the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high 
>> level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we 
>> are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not 
>> about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less 
>> cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 
>> million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 
>> million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 
>> million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this.
>>  
>> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Steven Millward
>> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM
>> 
>> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him.  His instructionscome 
>> from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss.
>>  
>> Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in thePrem 
>> when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this.  
>> This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced.
>>  
>> Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season 
>> with a 1m bonus if we stay up.  Would be well worthwhile and good money for 
>> anyone.  The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid.  
>> The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay 
>> up.  
>>  
>> Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew  
>> wrote:
>> It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try 
>> to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who 
>> was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them 
>> back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years.
>>  
>> I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on 
>> Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable 
>> investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[mark worrall]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-smith


On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart  wrote:

> Spot on Matthew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew 
> wrote:
>
> And thats where we need some balance.
>
> Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and
> applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft
> and guile. It didn't work.
>
> Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition
> for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation
> where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers
> that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the
> complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and
> experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes
> of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at
> the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott
> and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits M&M's 'business' goals and
> they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older
> player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success
> on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it.
>
>  --
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>  I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages.  We
> agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott
> Dann.  There must be others
>
> Albion do the reverse.  A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay
> more than us in wages.  As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the
> contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total
> cost on wages than transfers.
>
> The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy
> (which is another Morgan backed idea).  Young players cost more.  If we
> want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards
> the end of their career.
>
> On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew wrote:
>
>> **
>> I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to
>> achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are
>> reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like
>> the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other
>> clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a
>> little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if
>> we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to
>> get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for
>> an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through
>> this.
>>
>>  --
>>  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
>> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM
>>
>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>>
>>   I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him.  His instructions
>> come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make
>> a loss.
>>
>> Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the
>> Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know
>> this.  This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced.
>>
>> Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the
>> season with a 1m bonus if we stay up.  Would be well worthwhile and good
>> money for anyone.  The value to the club would be immense compared to a
>> million quid.  The choice of manager would be very different if we went
>> down to if we stay up.
>>
>> Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again
>>> try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England
>>> who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding
>>> them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10
>>> years.
>>>
>>> I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on
>>> Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable
>>> investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options:
>>>
>>> - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can
>>> get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian
>>> Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obvio

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Paul Hart]

Spot on Matthew 

Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew  wrote:

> And thats where we need some balance.
>  
> Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and 
> applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft 
> and guile. It didn't work.
>  
> Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition 
> for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation 
> where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers 
> that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the 
> complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and 
> experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of 
> Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the 
> time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and 
> Murray. The young and hungry policy suits M&M's 'business' goals and they see 
> these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can 
> be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch 
> which in turn transalates to increassed money off it.
> 
> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Steven Millward
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM
> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> 
> I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages.  We agree 
> fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann.  
> There must be others
>  
> Albion do the reverse.  A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay 
> more than us in wages.  As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the 
> contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total  
> cost on wages than transfers.
>  
> The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy 
> (which is another Morgan backed idea).  Young players cost more.  If we want 
> to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end 
> of their career.
> 
> On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew  wrote:
> I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve 
> the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high 
> level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we 
> are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not 
> about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less 
> cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 
> million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 
> million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 
> million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this.
>  
> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Steven Millward
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM
> 
> To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> 
> I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him.  His instructions come 
> from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss.
>  
> Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when 
> almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this.  This 
> might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced.
>  
> Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season 
> with a 1m bonus if we stay up.  Would be well worthwhile and good money for 
> anyone.  The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid.  
> The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay 
> up. 
>  
> Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew  wrote:
> It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try 
> to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was 
> delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back 
> and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years.
>  
> I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on 
> Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable 
> investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options:
>  
> - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can get 
> a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian 
> Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so 
> that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting'
>   financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog 
> standard Premiership wages.  The value of staying in the league is 
> p

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Steven Millward]

I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him.  His instructions come
from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a
loss.

Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when
almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this.  This
might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced.

Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season
with a 1m bonus if we stay up.  Would be well worthwhile and good money for
anyone.  The value to the club would be immense compared to a million
quid.  The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if
we stay up.

Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read.




On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew wrote:

> **
> It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again
> try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England
> who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding
> them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10
> years.
>
> I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on
> Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable
> investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options:
>
> - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can
> get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian
> Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so
> that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting'
>   financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog
> standard Premiership wages. The value of staying in the league is
> phenomenal - why not offer a huge incentive to someone to keep us up?
>
> - get someone you think can progress the team long term, regardless of
> which league we're in, and offer them a longer term contract. Curbishley
> (who I wasn't excited about but now looks a shining light compared to some
> of the dross we've been linked with) went down with
>   Charlton and brought them back up stronger, enjoying a prolonged period
> of what undoubtedly had to be viewed as success given their resources. I
> wouldn't mind seeing us take a punt on Poyet for this option.
>
> The situation as is is a farce. Morgan and Moxey are looking like a pair
> of clowns and its an embarrassment to the club. They knew this day would
> come and obviously knew when that day was fast approaching - why didn't
> they plan for it accordingly?
>
>
>  --
>  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 9:37 AM
>
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>   No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage
> structure can't be changed.
>
>
> On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe wrote:
>
>>  If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be
>> less than 10K season ticket holder’s renew next season.
>>
>> 
>>
>> I do not know what this “vision” is that the 2 x M’s are referring to? It
>> must be pretty radical or scary! 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Paul Crowe
>>
>> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>>
>> 
>>
>> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>>
>> 
>>
>> PO Box 3517
>>
>> Rhodes Waterside
>>
>> Rhodes NSW  2138
>>
>> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>>
>> Mob: 0406009562
>>
>> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>>
>> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>>
>> 
>>
>> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
>> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM
>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>>
>> 
>>
>> As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.
>>
>> 
>>
>> We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as
>> a big opportunity.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone
>> in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.
>>
>> On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT 
>> wrote:
>>
>> *UNCLASSIFIED*
>>
>> I picked up on that too. 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...
>>
>> 
>>
>> Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on /
>> discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.
>>
>> 
>>
>> It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very
>> thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.
>>
>> 
>>
>> What on earth are they playing at?
>>
>> 
>>
>> Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or
>> discuss

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Morris, Lee SGT]

UNCLASSIFIED

Latest rumour on Molineux Mix is Steve Bruce ...guess there aren't too
many others left now.


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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of LEESE Matthew
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 09:00
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]


It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again
try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in
England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was
holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the
last 10 years. 
 
I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on
Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable
investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic
options:
 
- get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can
get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the
Ian Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive
and so that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting' 
  financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog
standard Premiership wages. The value of staying in the league is
phenomenal - why not offer a huge incentive to someone to keep us up?
 
- get someone you think can progress the team long term, regardless of
which league we're in, and offer them a longer term contract. Curbishley
(who I wasn't excited about but now looks a shining light compared to
some of the dross we've been linked with) went down with
  Charlton and brought them back up stronger, enjoying a prolonged
period of what undoubtedly had to be viewed as success given their
resources. I wouldn't mind seeing us take a punt on Poyet for this
option. 
 
The situation as is is a farce. Morgan and Moxey are looking like a pair
of clowns and its an embarrassment to the club. They knew this day would
come and obviously knew when that day was fast approaching - why didn't
they plan for it accordingly? 
 



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 9:37 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]


No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage
structure can't be changed.
  


On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe 
wrote:


If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there
will be less than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season.

 

I do not know what this "vision" is that the 2 x M's are
referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com
 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.

 

We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can
see this as a big opportunity.

 

Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get
someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.

On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT <
lee.mor...@defence.gov.au> wrote:

UNCLASSIFIED

I picked up on that too. 

 

Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...

 

Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going
on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.

 

It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a
very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.

 

What on earth are they playing at?

 

Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 

 

Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper
interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the
"Very Desperate" stage.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
  

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Steven Millward]

No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage
structure can't be changed.


On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe  wrote:

>  If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be
> less than 10K season ticket holder’s renew next season.
>
> ** **
>
> I do not know what this “vision” is that the 2 x M’s are referring to? It
> must be pretty radical or scary! 
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> ** **
>
> As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.
>
>  
>
> We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as
> a big opportunity.
>
>  
>
> Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in
> on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.
>
> On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT 
> wrote:
>
> *UNCLASSIFIED*
>
> I picked up on that too. 
>
>  
>
> Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...
>
>  
>
> Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on /
> discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.
>
>  
>
> It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very
> thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.
>
>  
>
> What on earth are they playing at?
>
>  
>
> Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 
>
>  
>
> Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or
> discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the "Very Desperate"
> stage.
>  --
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So will everyone
> else now.
>
> Maybe Terry will turn us down too.
>
> On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe 
> wrote:
>
> I was trying to be optimistic Roger!
>
>  
>
> Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us
> down anyway! 
>
>  
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Rog & Reet
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM
>
>
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
>  
>
> You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?
>
> Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.
>
> All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Crowe
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
>  
>
> *Team*
>
> *Nat*
>
> *From*
>
> *To*
>
> *Record*
>
> *G*
>
> *W*
>
> *D*
>
> *L*
>
> *Win %*
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 16 April 1991
>
> 31 May 1998
>
> &1038000380
>
> &1024900249
>
> &100680068
>
> &100630063
>
> &100655365.53
>
> Everton 
>
> [image: England] 
>
> 1 July 1998
>
> 13 March 2002
>
> &1016800168
>
> &100530053
>
> &100500050
>
> &100650065
>
> &100315531.55
>
> Scotland ***
> *
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 1 January 2005
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> &100160016
>
> &10007007
>
> &10005005
>
> &10004004
>
> &100437543.75**

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Jeremy Tonks]

I hate to say, "I told you so" but I had a lot more confidence under the old
regime.

YMMMFL!

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:23 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less
than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season.

 

I do not know what this "vision" is that the 2 x M's are referring to? It
must be pretty radical or scary! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.

 

We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a
big opportunity.

 

Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in
on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.

On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT 
wrote:

UNCLASSIFIED

I picked up on that too. 

 

Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...

 

Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on /
discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.

 

It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick
skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.

 

What on earth are they playing at?

 

Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 

 

Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or
discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the "Very Desperate"
stage.

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So will everyone
else now.

Maybe Terry will turn us down too.

On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe  wrote:

I was trying to be optimistic Roger!

 

Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down
anyway! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com  

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?

Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.

All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 


Team

Nat

From

To

Record


G

W

D

L

Win %


Rangers  

  Scotland

16 April 1991

31 May 1998

&1038000380

&1024900249

&100680068

&100630063

&100655365.53


Everton  

  England

1 July 1998

13 March 2002

&1016800168

&100530053

&100500050

&100650065

&100315531.55


Scotland  

  Scotland

1 January 2005

10 January 2007

&100160016

&10007007

&10005005

&10004004

&100437543.75


Rangers  

  Scotland

10 January 2007

15 May 2011

&1020200202

&1012800128

&100450045

&100290029

&100633663.37


Total

&1076600766

&1043700437

&1016800168

&1016100161

&100570457.05

[edit
 ] Honours

If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
League?

 

With 13 games left this would give 

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Paul Crowe]

If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less
than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season.

 

I do not know what this "vision" is that the 2 x M's are referring to? It
must be pretty radical or scary! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.

 

We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a
big opportunity.

 

Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in
on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.

On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT 
wrote:

UNCLASSIFIED

I picked up on that too. 

 

Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...

 

Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on /
discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.

 

It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick
skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.

 

What on earth are they playing at?

 

Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 

 

Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or
discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the "Very Desperate"
stage.

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So will everyone
else now.

Maybe Terry will turn us down too.

On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe  wrote:

I was trying to be optimistic Roger!

 

Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down
anyway! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com  

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?

Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.

All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 


Team

Nat

From

To

Record


G

W

D

L

Win %


Rangers  

  Scotland

16 April 1991

31 May 1998

&1038000380

&1024900249

&100680068

&100630063

&100655365.53


Everton  

  England

1 July 1998

13 March 2002

&1016800168

&100530053

&100500050

&100650065

&100315531.55


Scotland  

  Scotland

1 January 2005

10 January 2007

&100160016

&10007007

&10005005

&10004004

&100437543.75


Rangers  

  Scotland

10 January 2007

15 May 2011

&1020200202

&1012800128

&100450045

&100290029

&100633663.37


Total

&1076600766

&1043700437

&1016800168

&1016100161

&100570457.05

[edit
 ] Honours

If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
League?

 

With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
wins).

 

Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!

 

4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 

 

I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia P

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Morris, Lee SGT]

UNCLASSIFIED

The prospect of Terry Connor running the show for an extended period
does not fill me with confidence, but its a funny old game.
 


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From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 07:11
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]


As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.
 
We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this
as a big opportunity.
 
Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone
in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.


On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT 
wrote:




UNCLASSIFIED

I picked up on that too. 
 
Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...
 
Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going
on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.
 
It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a
very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.
 
What on earth are they playing at?
 
Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 
 
Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper
interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the
"Very Desperate" stage.


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !


Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So
will everyone else now.

Maybe Terry will turn us down too.


On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe <
pcr...@contechengineering.com> wrote:


I was trying to be optimistic Roger!

 

Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who
have turned us down anyway! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com
 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !



 

You've used the win percentage but why not the draw
percentage?

Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.

All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and
astrology.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

Team

Nat

From

To

Record

G

W

D

L

Win %

Rangers  

   

16 April 1991

31 May 1998

&1038000380

&1024900249

&100680068

&100630063

&100655365.53

Everton  

   

1 July 1998

13 March 2002

&1016800168

&100530053

&100500050

&100650065

&100315531.55

Scotland  

  

1 January 2005

10 January 2007

&100160016

&10007007

&10005005

&10004004

&100437543.75

Rangers  

  

10 January 2007

15 May 2011

&1020200202

&1012800128

&100450045

&100290029

&100633663.37

Total

&1076600

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Steven Millward]

As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish.

We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a
big opportunity.

Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in
on a proper contract, whichever division we're in.

On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT wrote:

> **
>
> *UNCLASSIFIED*
> I picked up on that too.
>
> Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...
>
> Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on /
> discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.
>
> It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very
> thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.
>
> What on earth are they playing at?
>
> Is it the short term deal thats putting people off?
>
> Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or
> discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the "Very Desperate"
> stage.
>  --
>  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So will everyone
> else now.
>
> Maybe Terry will turn us down too.
>
> On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe wrote:
>
>>  I was trying to be optimistic Roger!
>>
>> 
>>
>> Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us
>> down anyway! 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Paul Crowe
>>
>> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>>
>> 
>>
>> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>>
>> 
>>
>> PO Box 3517
>>
>> Rhodes Waterside
>>
>> Rhodes NSW  2138
>>
>> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>>
>> Mob: 0406009562
>>
>> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>>
>> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>>
>> 
>>
>> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Rog & Reet
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM
>>
>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>>
>>  
>>
>> You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?
>>
>> Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.
>>
>> All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Paul Crowe
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
>> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Team*
>>
>> *Nat*
>>
>> *From*
>>
>> *To*
>>
>> *Record*
>>
>> *G*
>>
>> *W*
>>
>> *D*
>>
>> *L*
>>
>> *Win %*
>>
>> Rangers 
>>
>> [image: Scotland] 
>>
>> 16 April 1991
>>
>> 31 May 1998
>>
>> &1038000380
>>
>> &1024900249
>>
>> &100680068
>>
>> &100630063
>>
>> &100655365.53
>>
>> Everton 
>>
>> [image: England] 
>>
>> 1 July 1998
>>
>> 13 March 2002
>>
>> &1016800168
>>
>> &100530053
>>
>> &100500050
>>
>> &100650065
>>
>> &100315531.55
>>
>> Scotland **
>> **
>>
>> [image: Scotland] 
>>
>> 1 January 2005
>>
>> 10 January 2007
>>
>> &100160016
>>
>> &10007007
>>
>> &10005005
>>
>> &10004004
>>
>> &100437543.75
>>
>> Rangers 
>>
>> [image: Scotland] 
>>
>> 10 January 2007
>>
>> 15 May 2011
>>
>> &1020200202
>>
>> &1012800128
>>
>> &100450045
>>
>> &100290029
>>
>> &100633663.37
>>
>> *Total*
>>
>> *&1076600766*
>>
>> *&1043700437*
>>
>> *&1016800168*
>>
>> *&1016100161*
>>
>> *&100570457.05*
>>
>> *[edit]
>> Honours*
>>
>> If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
>> League?
>>
>> 
>>
>> With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
>> wins).
>>
>> 
>>
>> Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
>> Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!*
>> ***
>>
>> 
>>
>> 4 wins and 7 draws from 

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Morris, Lee SGT]

UNCLASSIFIED

I picked up on that too. 
 
Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out...
 
Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on /
discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out.
 
It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very
thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order.
 
What on earth are they playing at?
 
Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? 
 
Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview
or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the "Very
Desperate" stage.


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !


Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So will
everyone else now.

Maybe Terry will turn us down too.


On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe 
wrote:


I was trying to be optimistic Roger!

 

Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have
turned us down anyway! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !



 

You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?

Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.

All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and
astrology.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

Team

Nat

From

To

Record

G

W

D

L

Win %

Rangers  

   

16 April 1991

31 May 1998

&1038000380

&1024900249

&100680068

&100630063

&100655365.53

Everton  

   

1 July 1998

13 March 2002

&1016800168

&100530053

&100500050

&100650065

&100315531.55

Scotland  

  

1 January 2005

10 January 2007

&100160016

&10007007

&10005005

&10004004

&100437543.75

Rangers  

  

10 January 2007

15 May 2011

&1020200202

&1012800128

&100450045

&100290029

&100633663.37

Total

&1076600766

&1043700437

&1016800168

&1016100161

&100570457.05

[edit
 ] Honours

If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the
Premier League?

 

With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12
points (4 x wins).

 

Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33
points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40
points!!

 

4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 

 

I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:
nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.

On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart 
wrote:

We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new B

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

[Steven Millward]

Intereesting that he said he "knows he was a fall back".  So will everyone
else now.

Maybe Terry will turn us down too.

On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe  wrote:

> I was trying to be optimistic Roger!
>
> ** **
>
> Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us
> down anyway! 
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Rog & Reet
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM
>
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?
>
> Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.
>
> All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Crowe
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> *Team*
>
> *Nat*
>
> *From*
>
> *To*
>
> *Record*
>
> *G*
>
> *W*
>
> *D*
>
> *L*
>
> *Win %*
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 16 April 1991
>
> 31 May 1998
>
> &1038000380
>
> &1024900249
>
> &100680068
>
> &100630063
>
> &100655365.53
>
> Everton 
>
> [image: England] 
>
> 1 July 1998
>
> 13 March 2002
>
> &1016800168
>
> &100530053
>
> &100500050
>
> &100650065
>
> &100315531.55
>
> Scotland ***
> *
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 1 January 2005
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> &100160016
>
> &10007007
>
> &10005005
>
> &10004004
>
> &100437543.75
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> 15 May 2011
>
> &1020200202
>
> &1012800128
>
> &100450045
>
> &100290029
>
> &100633663.37
>
> *Total*
>
> *&1076600766*
>
> *&1043700437*
>
> *&1016800168*
>
> *&1016100161*
>
> *&100570457.05*
>
> *[edit]
> Honours*
>
> If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
> League?
>
> ** **
>
> With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
> wins).
>
> ** **
>
> Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
> Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 
>
> ** **
>
> I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.
>
> On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart  wrote:
>
> We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!
<><>

Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

[Steven Millward]

I wonder if Mick's million pound cheque has cleared yet?  I'd love to have
a beer with him right now (no teabagging).

On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe  wrote:

> I was trying to be optimistic Roger!
>
> ** **
>
> Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us
> down anyway! 
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Rog & Reet
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM
>
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?
>
> Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.
>
> All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Crowe
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> *Team*
>
> *Nat*
>
> *From*
>
> *To*
>
> *Record*
>
> *G*
>
> *W*
>
> *D*
>
> *L*
>
> *Win %*
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 16 April 1991
>
> 31 May 1998
>
> &1038000380
>
> &1024900249
>
> &100680068
>
> &100630063
>
> &100655365.53
>
> Everton 
>
> [image: England] 
>
> 1 July 1998
>
> 13 March 2002
>
> &1016800168
>
> &100530053
>
> &100500050
>
> &100650065
>
> &100315531.55
>
> Scotland ***
> *
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 1 January 2005
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> &100160016
>
> &10007007
>
> &10005005
>
> &10004004
>
> &100437543.75
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> 15 May 2011
>
> &1020200202
>
> &1012800128
>
> &100450045
>
> &100290029
>
> &100633663.37
>
> *Total*
>
> *&1076600766*
>
> *&1043700437*
>
> *&1016800168*
>
> *&1016100161*
>
> *&100570457.05*
>
> *[edit]
> Honours*
>
> If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
> League?
>
> ** **
>
> With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
> wins).
>
> ** **
>
> Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
> Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 
>
> ** **
>
> I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.
>
> On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart  wrote:
>
> We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!
<><>

RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

[Paul Crowe]

I was trying to be optimistic Roger!

 

Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down
anyway! 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?

Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.

All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 


Team

Nat

From

To

Record


G

W

D

L

Win %


Rangers  

  Scotland

16 April 1991

31 May 1998

&1038000380

&1024900249

&100680068

&100630063

&100655365.53


Everton  

  England

1 July 1998

13 March 2002

&1016800168

&100530053

&100500050

&100650065

&100315531.55


Scotland  

  Scotland

1 January 2005

10 January 2007

&100160016

&10007007

&10005005

&10004004

&100437543.75


Rangers  

  Scotland

10 January 2007

15 May 2011

&1020200202

&1012800128

&100450045

&100290029

&100633663.37


Total

&1076600766

&1043700437

&1016800168

&1016100161

&100570457.05

[edit
 ] Honours

If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
League?

 

With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
wins).

 

Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!

 

4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 

 

I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.

On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart  wrote:

We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss.

Sent from my iPhone

--
Boo! Curbishley out!

 

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!
<><>

[NSWolves] Walter Smith turns down Wolves' manager offer

[mark worrall]

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2012/02/23/wa
lter-smith-turns-down-wolves-manager-offer/

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 9:41 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite

 

Wally now 8/13 favourite.

Today's guess for the shortie tomorrow is Souness.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 9:22 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite

 

Stevie boy is back as 2/1 favourite.

My guess for tomorrow's leader is the great Dougie Freedman.

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:42 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite

 

Brian McDermott now 9/4 favourite.

http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/wolverhampton-wanderers

 

Top 5 this evening.

 

 

Brian McDermott  Skybet9/4  

 

Gus Poyet Skybet5/2  

 

Steve Bruce Skybet5/2  

 

Lee Clark Skybet7/2  

 

Graeme Souness Skybet14/1  

 

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!

-- 
Boo! Curbishley out!
<><><><><>

RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite

[Rog & Reet]

Wally now 8/13 favourite.
Today's guess for the shortie tomorrow is Souness.
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 9:22 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite
 
Stevie boy is back as 2/1 favourite.
My guess for tomorrow's leader is the great Dougie Freedman.
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rog & Reet
Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:42 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite
 
Brian McDermott now 9/4 favourite.
http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/wolverhampton-wanderers
 
Top 5 this evening.
 
 
Brian McDermott  Skybet9/4  
 
Gus Poyet Skybet5/2  
 
Steve Bruce Skybet5/2  
 
Lee Clark Skybet7/2  
 
Graeme Souness Skybet14/1  
 
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RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

[Rog & Reet]

You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage?
Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13.
All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology.
 
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
 

Team
Nat
From
To
Record

G
W
D
L
Win %

Rangers  
  Scotland
16 April 1991
31 May 1998
&1038000380
&1024900249
&100680068
&100630063
&100655365.53

Everton  
  England
1 July 1998
13 March 2002
&1016800168
&100530053
&100500050
&100650065
&100315531.55

Scotland  
  Scotland
1 January 2005
10 January 2007
&100160016
&10007007
&10005005
&10004004
&100437543.75

Rangers  
  Scotland
10 January 2007
15 May 2011
&1020200202
&1012800128
&100450045
&100290029
&100633663.37

Total
&1076600766
&1043700437
&1016800168
&1016100161
&100570457.05
[edit
 ] Honours
If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
League?
 
With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
wins).
 
Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!
 
4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 
 
I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?
 
Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
 
ConTech (Sydney Office)
 
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW  2138
Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: www.contechengineering.com
 
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
 
My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.
On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart  wrote:
We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

[Steven Millward]

Cheers Paul, that table is really helpful

On 23 February 2012 20:34, Paul Crowe  wrote:

> *Team*
>
> *Nat*
>
> *From*
>
> *To*
>
> *Record*
>
> *G*
>
> *W*
>
> *D*
>
> *L*
>
> *Win %*
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 16 April 1991
>
> 31 May 1998
>
> &1038000380
>
> &1024900249
>
> &100680068
>
> &100630063
>
> &100655365.53
>
> Everton 
>
> [image: England] 
>
> 1 July 1998
>
> 13 March 2002
>
> &1016800168
>
> &100530053
>
> &100500050
>
> &100650065
>
> &100315531.55
>
> Scotland ***
> *
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 1 January 2005
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> &100160016
>
> &10007007
>
> &10005005
>
> &10004004
>
> &100437543.75
>
> Rangers 
>
> [image: Scotland] 
>
> 10 January 2007
>
> 15 May 2011
>
> &1020200202
>
> &1012800128
>
> &100450045
>
> &100290029
>
> &100633663.37
>
> *Total*
>
> *&1076600**766*
>
> *&1043700**437*
>
> *&1016800**168*
>
> *&1016100**161*
>
> *&1005704**57.05*
>
> *[edit]
> Honours*
>
> If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
> League?
>
> ** **
>
> With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
> wins).
>
> ** **
>
> Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
> Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 
>
> ** **
>
> I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?
>
> ** **
>
> Paul Crowe
>
> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
>
>  
>
> ConTech (Sydney Office)
>
>  
>
> PO Box 3517
>
> Rhodes Waterside
>
> Rhodes NSW  2138
>
> Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
>
> Mob: 0406009562
>
> Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
>
> Website: www.contechengineering.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
>
> ** **
>
> My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.
>
> On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart  wrote:
>
> We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>
> --
> Boo! Curbishley out!
>

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RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

[Paul Crowe]

Team

Nat

From

To

Record


G

W

D

L

Win %


Rangers  

  Scotland

16 April 1991

31 May 1998

&1038000380

&1024900249

&100680068

&100630063

&100655365.53


Everton  

  England

1 July 1998

13 March 2002

&1016800168

&100530053

&100500050

&100650065

&100315531.55


Scotland  

  Scotland

1 January 2005

10 January 2007

&100160016

&10007007

&10005005

&10004004

&100437543.75


Rangers  

  Scotland

10 January 2007

15 May 2011

&1020200202

&1012800128

&100450045

&100290029

&100633663.37


Total

&1076600766

&1043700437

&1016800168

&1016100161

&100570457.05

[edit
 ] Honours

If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier
League?

 

With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x
wins).

 

Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points.
Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!

 

4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! 

 

I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog?

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !

 

My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move.

On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart  wrote:

We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss.

Sent from my iPhone

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