RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 Total 1076600766 1043700437 1016800168 1016100161 100570457.05 [edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection= 14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro ] Honours If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!! 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move. On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image001.pngimage002.png
Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
Cheers Paul, that table is really helpful On 23 February 2012 20:34, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: *Team* *Nat* *From* *To* *Record* *G* *W* *D* *L* *Win %* Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. [image: England] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team*** * [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 *Total* *1076600**766* *1043700**437* *1016800**168* *1016100**161* *1005704**57.05* *[edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection=14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro] Honours* If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? ** ** With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). ** ** Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!** ** ** ** 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! ** ** I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? ** ** Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move. On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Curbishley out! ** ** -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image001.pngimage002.png
RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite
Wally now 8/13 favourite. Today's guess for the shortie tomorrow is Souness. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 9:22 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite Stevie boy is back as 2/1 favourite. My guess for tomorrow's leader is the great Dougie Freedman. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:42 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite Brian McDermott now 9/4 favourite. http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/wolverhampton-wanderers Top 5 this evening. Brian McDermott Skybet9/4 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Gus Poyet Skybet5/2 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Steve Bruce Skybet5/2 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Lee Clark Skybet7/2 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Graeme Souness Skybet14/1 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image001.jpgimage002.jpgimage003.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpg
[NSWolves] Walter Smith turns down Wolves' manager offer
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2012/02/23/wa lter-smith-turns-down-wolves-manager-offer/ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 9:41 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite Wally now 8/13 favourite. Today's guess for the shortie tomorrow is Souness. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 9:22 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite Stevie boy is back as 2/1 favourite. My guess for tomorrow's leader is the great Dougie Freedman. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 10:42 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Another day, another favourite Brian McDermott now 9/4 favourite. http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/wolverhampton-wanderers Top 5 this evening. Brian McDermott Skybet9/4 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Gus Poyet Skybet5/2 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Steve Bruce Skybet5/2 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Lee Clark Skybet7/2 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet Graeme Souness Skybet14/1 http://www.thesackrace.com/visit/skybet -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image001.jpgimage002.jpgimage003.jpgimage004.jpgimage005.jpg
RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 Total 1076600766 1043700437 1016800168 1016100161 100570457.05 [edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection= 14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro ] Honours If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!! 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move. On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image001.pngimage002.png
Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
I wonder if Mick's million pound cheque has cleared yet? I'd love to have a beer with him right now (no teabagging). On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! ** ** Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! ** ** Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. ** ** ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Crowe *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** *Team* *Nat* *From* *To* *Record* *G* *W* *D* *L* *Win %* Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. [image: England] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team*** * [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 *Total* *1076600766* *1043700437* *1016800168* *1016100161* *100570457.05* *[edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection=14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro] Honours* If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? ** ** With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). ** ** Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!** ** ** ** 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! ** ** I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? ** ** Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move. On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Curbishley out! ** ** -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image001.pngimage002.png
Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then !
Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! ** ** Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! ** ** Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. ** ** ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Crowe *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** *Team* *Nat* *From* *To* *Record* *G* *W* *D* *L* *Win %* Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. [image: England] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team*** * [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 *Total* *1076600766* *1043700437* *1016800168* *1016100161* *100570457.05* *[edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection=14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro] Honours* If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? ** ** With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). ** ** Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!** ** ** ** 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! ** ** I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? ** ** Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! ** ** My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move. On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our new Boss. Sent from my iPhone -- Boo! Curbishley out! ** ** -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! -- Boo! Curbishley out! image002.pngimage001.png
RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
UNCLASSIFIED I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 Total 1076600766 1043700437 1016800168 1016100161 100570457.05 [edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsect ion=14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro ] Honours If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!! 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:30 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! My lawn is fantastic, so it might be a good move. On 23 February 2012 12:48, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: We want Moxey out on Facebook reckon Sir Walter is our
Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote: ** *UNCLASSIFIED* I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.comwrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Crowe *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! *Team* *Nat* *From* *To* *Record* *G* *W* *D* *L* *Win %* Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. [image: England] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team** ** [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 *Total* *1076600766* *1043700437* *1016800168* *1016100161* *100570457.05* *[edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection=14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro] Honours* If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!!* *** 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com
RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
UNCLASSIFIED The prospect of Terry Connor running the show for an extended period does not fill me with confidence, but its a funny old game. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 07:11 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com http://www.contechengineering.com/ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 Total 1076600766
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If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season. I do not know what this vision is that the 2 x M's are referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com http://www.contechengineering.com/ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 Total 1076600766 1043700437 1016800168 1016100161 100570457.05 [edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection= 14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro ] Honours If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? With 13 games left this would give us 13 x 0.3155 x 3 = 12 points (4 x wins). Therefore, adding this to our current 21 points sees us with 33 points. Needing us to attain 7 draws to reach the supposed safety of 40 points!! 4 wins and 7 draws from our last 13 games!! I wonder what the odds on that would be Rog? Paul Crowe Sales Manager -
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I hate to say, I told you so but I had a lot more confidence under the old regime. YMMMFL! From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:23 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season. I do not know what this vision is that the 2 x M's are referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com http://www.contechengineering.com/ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Reet Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You've used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Team Nat From To Record G W D L Win % Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011 1020200202 1012800128 100450045 100290029 100633663.37 Total 1076600766 1043700437 1016800168 1016100161 100570457.05 [edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Smithaction=editsection= 14editintro=Template:BLP_editintro ] Honours If it is Walter, can we expect his win average of 31.55% in the Premier League? With 13 games left this would
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No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage structure can't be changed. On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less than 10K season ticket holder’s renew next season. ** ** I do not know what this “vision” is that the 2 x M’s are referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! ** ** Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com ** ** *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] ** ** As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: *UNCLASSIFIED* I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 05:54 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! Intereesting that he said he knows he was a fall back. So will everyone else now. Maybe Terry will turn us down too. On 24 February 2012 05:51, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: I was trying to be optimistic Roger! Looks like he has joined the growing list of people who have turned us down anyway! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rog Reet *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:36 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! You’ve used the win percentage but why not the draw percentage? Gives us 4 wins and 4 draws from 13. All this brings to mind the words straws, clutching and astrology. *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Crowe *Sent:* Thursday, 23 February 2012 8:35 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! *Team* *Nat* *From* *To* *Record* *G* *W* *D* *L* *Win %* Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 16 April 1991 31 May 1998 1038000380 1024900249 100680068 100630063 100655365.53 Everton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. [image: England] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England 1 July 1998 13 March 2002 1016800168 100530053 100500050 100650065 100315531.55 Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_football_team*** * [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 1 January 2005 10 January 2007 100160016 10007007 10005005 10004004 100437543.75 Rangers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_F.C. [image: Scotland] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland 10 January 2007 15 May 2011
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UNCLASSIFIED Latest rumour on Molineux Mix is Steve Bruce ...guess there aren't too many others left now. IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 09:00 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options: - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting' financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog standard Premiership wages. The value of staying in the league is phenomenal - why not offer a huge incentive to someone to keep us up? - get someone you think can progress the team long term, regardless of which league we're in, and offer them a longer term contract. Curbishley (who I wasn't excited about but now looks a shining light compared to some of the dross we've been linked with) went down with Charlton and brought them back up stronger, enjoying a prolonged period of what undoubtedly had to be viewed as success given their resources. I wouldn't mind seeing us take a punt on Poyet for this option. The situation as is is a farce. Morgan and Moxey are looking like a pair of clowns and its an embarrassment to the club. They knew this day would come and obviously knew when that day was fast approaching - why didn't they plan for it accordingly? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 9:37 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage structure can't be changed. On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.com wrote: If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season. I do not know what this vision is that the 2 x M's are referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com http://www.contechengineering.com/ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: UNCLASSIFIED I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto: nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructions come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.auwrote: ** It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options: - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting' financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog standard Premiership wages. The value of staying in the league is phenomenal - why not offer a huge incentive to someone to keep us up? - get someone you think can progress the team long term, regardless of which league we're in, and offer them a longer term contract. Curbishley (who I wasn't excited about but now looks a shining light compared to some of the dross we've been linked with) went down with Charlton and brought them back up stronger, enjoying a prolonged period of what undoubtedly had to be viewed as success given their resources. I wouldn't mind seeing us take a punt on Poyet for this option. The situation as is is a farce. Morgan and Moxey are looking like a pair of clowns and its an embarrassment to the club. They knew this day would come and obviously knew when that day was fast approaching - why didn't they plan for it accordingly? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 9:37 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage structure can't be changed. On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe pcr...@contechengineering.comwrote: If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less than 10K season ticket holder’s renew next season. I do not know what this “vision” is that the 2 x M’s are referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 8:11 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] As Matt said, most of it is probably rubbish. We're set to get someone from the lower leagues then, who can see this as a big opportunity. Or let clipboard do it until the end of the season and then get someone in on a proper contract, whichever division we're in. On 24 February 2012 08:01, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote: *UNCLASSIFIED* I picked up on that too. Totally disgraceful the way this has all panned out... Of course we don't know all the details of what has been going on / discussed behind the scenes, only what has been leaked out. It seems that whoever takes us on now is going to have to have a very thick skin, knowing he was well down the pecking order. What on earth are they playing at? Is it the short term deal thats putting people off? Seems like Walter Smith was offered the job without a proper interview or discussing finances, if thats the case we are now at the Very Desperate stage. -- *From:*
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Spot on Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: And thats where we need some balance. Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft and guile. It didn't work. Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits MM's 'business' goals and they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages. We agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann. There must be others Albion do the reverse. A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay more than us in wages. As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost on wages than transfers. The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy (which is another Morgan backed idea). Young players cost more. If we want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end of their career. On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructions come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options: - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting' financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog standard Premiership wages. The value of staying in the league is
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-smith On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Spot on Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: And thats where we need some balance. Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft and guile. It didn't work. Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits MM's 'business' goals and they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages. We agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann. There must be others Albion do the reverse. A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay more than us in wages. As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost on wages than transfers. The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy (which is another Morgan backed idea). Young players cost more. If we want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end of their career. On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.auwrote: ** I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructions come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.auwrote: ** It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options: - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so that has to be compensated for by
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How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on that photo. duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache? Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-smith On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Spot on Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: And thats where we need some balance. Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft and guile. It didn't work. Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits MM's 'business' goals and they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages. We agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann. There must be others Albion do the reverse. A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay more than us in wages. As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost on wages than transfers. The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy (which is another Morgan backed idea). Young players cost more. If we want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end of their career. On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructionscome from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in thePrem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options: - get someone in on a short term
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Question 4. You're two nil down, how many goals do you need to score to get a point? Whoa, whoa, slow down, it's on the tip of my tongue. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 4:09 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on that photo. duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache? Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-sm ith On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Spot on Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: And thats where we need some balance. Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft and guile. It didn't work. Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits MM's 'business' goals and they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages. We agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann. There must be others Albion do the reverse. A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay more than us in wages. As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost on wages than transfers. The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy (which is another Morgan backed idea). Young players cost more. If we want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end of their career. On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructions come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look
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you win Roger!! On 24/02/2012, at 6:25 PM, Rog Reet wrote: “Question 4. You’re two nil down, how many goals do you need to score to get a point?” “Whoa, whoa, slow down, it’s on the tip of my tongue”. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 4:09 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on that photo. duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache? Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall markworr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-smith On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart wholiga...@gmail.com wrote: Spot on Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: And thats where we need some balance. Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft and guile. It didn't work. Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits MM's 'business' goals and they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages. We agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann. There must be others Albion do the reverse. A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay more than us in wages. As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost on wages than transfers. The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy (which is another Morgan backed idea). Young players cost more. If we want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end of their career. On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructions come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew matthew.le...@rms.nsw.gov.au wrote: It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I
