Re: [NTG-context] letter

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
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 Hi Wolfgang,
 
  it seems to me that referenzline, subject, foldmarks, etc, are
 about
  4mm or 5mm to big (A4 paper). The foldmark for example should be
  105mm from papertop. It is 110mm from top.
  The horizontal offset (3.5mm) of foldmarks ist to small. A
  laserprinter often is not able to print 5mm or more from
 paperedge.
  So the foldmarks are invisibel.
 
 I never measured the real values and it should be simple
 whitespace
 problem somewhere in the code.

Have you found that whitespace?

Aren't the foldmarks positioned in absolute values relative to the 
page? There is no whitespace involved, isn't it?
So I don't understand this 5mm offset at all. Are your vertical 
foldmark positions ok?

 The address field was wrong placed and I corrected it, the place for
 the
 referenece line should work but I change the position dependen on
 the
 alternative for the layout and the value in the default letterstyle
 is ignored
 at the moment.
 
 Don't what do you mean about the subject, the position is controlled
 with
 the normal page layout.

But the bodyspace depends on the space occupied by the header 
(addresfield, referenceline etc.). Wrong?

 
 I could change the values for the foldmarks, I corrected the
 position
 already and it got them at least on my own printer. You could try
 to
 play with \setupletterstyle[topmark,botmark,cutmark][hoffset=...]
 and
 give me a value that did work for your printer.

6mm should be enough for laserprinters.

Grusz, Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] columns and \definemakeup

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Suno Ano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  | On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:40:59 +0200,
  | Wolfgang Schuster
  | who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | (whose comments are cited below with  Wolfgang ),
  | had this to say in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
  | concerning the subject of Re: columns and \definemakeup
  | (see [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details)

  Wolfgang Alternative solution:

  Wolfgang \Definelayout
  Wolfgang   [titlepage]
  Wolfgang   [header=0pt,
  Wolfgangfooter=0pt,
  Wolfgangbackspace=4cm,
  Wolfgangwidth=12cm]

 [skipping a lot of lines ...]


 Thank you Wolfgang, it works! However, I tried but did not figure out
 how to also change the fontsize from within the \definelayout block. Is
 it possible?

No possible, \definelayout is resposible for margings, textheight and width ...
not for the fontsize

 I want to change the fontsize to 11pt. I know I could use
 \switchtobodyfont but I would rather save myself some typing in the
 future and put it in the \definelayout block -- or something else that
 does not require me typing it over and over again if \definelayout is
 the wrong way to go here altogether (/me is still a novice to ConTeXt).

Not within \definelayout but see below.

 Same as for the fontsize -- can I demand two columns from within the
 \definelayout block instead of always putting \startcolumns[n=2]
 respectively \stopcolumns in the actual source?

\definestartstop
 [titlepage]
 [before={\setuplayout[titlepage]\bgroup\switchtobodyfont[11pt]\startcolumns},
  after={\stopcolumns\egroup\page[right]\setuplayout[reset]}]


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] letter

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
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  Hi Wolfgang,
 
   it seems to me that referenzline, subject, foldmarks, etc, are about
   4mm or 5mm to big (A4 paper). The foldmark for example should be
   105mm from papertop. It is 110mm from top.
   The horizontal offset (3.5mm) of foldmarks ist to small. A
   laserprinter often is not able to print 5mm or more from paperedge.
   So the foldmarks are invisibel.
 
  I never measured the real values and it should be simple whitespace
  problem somewhere in the code.

 Have you found that whitespace?

 Aren't the foldmarks positioned in absolute values relative to the
 page? There is no whitespace involved, isn't it?
 So I don't understand this 5mm offset at all. Are your vertical
 foldmark positions ok?

I found the whitespace and it is was not 4 or 5mm but \lineheight, the problem
was I place the content for the layers in a frame and the strut moved
the symbols
a little bit down by \strutht, I fixed it for the marks and this was
also the problem
for the address field.

I put a new version online and you could test it, the horizontal
position and the
length for the marks are unchanged but you could try different values and report
which of them did work for you.

  The address field was wrong placed and I corrected it, the place for the
  referenece line should work but I change the position dependen on
  the alternative for the layout and the value in the default letterstyle
  is ignored at the moment.
 
  Don't what do you mean about the subject, the position is controlled
  with the normal page layout.

 But the bodyspace depends on the space occupied by the header
 (addresfield, referenceline etc.). Wrong?

The distance between the top of the subject line and the topmargin of the
page depends indeed on the height from the reference line and the address
field, the DIN specification is very unclear in this point and what i wanted is
to have always the same distance between the reference line and the subject.

(Could you write me a privat mail, would be a easier to discuss it in german.)

  I could change the values for the foldmarks, I corrected the position
  already and it got them at least on my own printer. You could try
  to play with \setupletterstyle[topmark,botmark,cutmark][hoffset=...]
  and give me a value that did work for your printer.

 6mm should be enough for laserprinters.

Could you try this before I will change the value.

Gruß
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Font features not always working

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  Hi,
 
  the features from OpenType fonts are not accesable for all fonts, I tried 
  to use
  my old test case for Microsofts Cambria fonts and none of the features did 
  work,
  also kerning is disabled.
 
  I put the files with the result from last year and the latest stable online.
  http://schuster.wolfgang.googlepages.com/files

 IIRC, \Var depends on a very particular way of writing typescripts,
 and is currently considered deprecated by Hans, and that there is a
 new way to do things like this using \setfontfeature or something
 similar. Hans will know for sure (but he at bachotex right now)

I wrote a simpler example and compiled it with my old and my current ConTeXt.

http://schuster.wolfgang.googlepages.com/files - Fontfeature

Greetings
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-30 Thread Mikael Persson
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Mikael Persson wrote:

   Hello again,
  
   * snip *
  
I could reproduce the result and have also a fix but I don't know what
the correct
reults should be and other people like Aditya should decide if it makes 
 sense
to change the current behaviour.
  
\def\startdisplaymath
 {\ifgridsnapping
\beforedisplayspace
\snapmathtogrid\vbox
   * snip *
Wolfgang
  
   This fix seems not to solve the problem entirely. With this fix
   applied, If one now put a formula inside an enumeration one gets
   double space before the formula. This is a test file that shows the
   problem:

  This is basically because in enumerations indenting is set to never.

  You can see the same affect with

  \setupindenting[no]
  \testtext

  One possible fix is to add

  indenting=(reset|next|first) %default is never

  to the \setupenumeration command. For example


   \defineenumeration[example]
  [text=Example,
  location=serried,
  width=fit,
   indenting=reset, %% Add This

 distance=0.5em,
 way=bysection,
  ]

  Another is to change \startdisplaymath to


  \def\startdisplaymath
{\ifgridsnapping
   \beforedisplayspace
   \snapmathtogrid\vbox

   \bgroup
   \informulatrue
  %\forgetall % breaks side floats
 \else
   \bgroup
   \parskip\formulaparskip % ! !
   \informulatrue
  %\forgetall % otherwise backgrounds fail
   \ifdim\lastskip\zeropoint\else
 \par
 \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax
   \whitespace \vskip-\parskip % kind of forces and cancels again
 \fi \fi
   \fi
   \doif\displaygridcorrection{-\v!top}{\kern-\strutht}% new, currently 
 only option/default
   \beforedisplayspace
   \par
   \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax \else

\ifindentfirstparagraph
   \verticalstrut
   \vskip-\struttotal
   \vskip-\baselineskip
 \fi\fi
   \fi
 \fi
 $$\setdisplaydimensions
 \setpredisplaysize\lastlinewidth
 \startinnermath}

  But this is getting ugly.

  Aditya


Thank you Aditya, but I don't get that to work. Both with

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.03 13:01 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
english/english (with the fix earlier in this thread)
and
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
english/english (which is the one from new ubuntu, without the fix)

this fails with the following error msg:

%% Start error msg
! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
to be read again
   \chardef
\@@in:reset ...rue \parindent \zerocount \chardef
  \indentingtoggle \zerocount
\next1 #1,-\docomplexsetupindentingB {#1}
  \doprocesscommaitem
\doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
  ]\relax \global \advance \...
argument ...ndenting ]\docomplexsetupindentingB
  \checkeverypar \ifindentfi...

\firstofoneargument #1-#1

...
l.29 \testexpr
   % Too much space before the formula if the fix is applied,
?
%% Stop error msg

The file that gives that error is:

%% Begin file
\setupindenting[yes,small]
\indenting[next]

\def\testtext{This is just some text so we see better what happens.}

\def\testexpr{%
\par
\testtext
\startformula
f(x)= \sin(x)
\stopformula
\testtext
\par
}

\defineenumeration[example]
   [text=Example,
   location=serried,
   width=fit,
   indenting=reset,
   distance=0.5em,
   way=bysection,
   ]

\starttext
\testexpr % OK if fix is applied, otherwise to little space before the
formula
\startexample
\testexpr % Too much space before the formula if the fix is applied,
otherwise OK.
\stopexample

\stoptext
%% End file

Best regards, Micke P
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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
 Thank you Aditya, but I don't get that to work. Both with

 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.03 13:01 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
 english/english (with the fix earlier in this thread)
 and
 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
 english/english (which is the one from new ubuntu, without the fix)

Update your ConTeXt istallation, both systems use old versions.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-30 Thread Mikael Persson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you Aditya, but I don't get that to work. Both with
  
   ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.03 13:01 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
   english/english (with the fix earlier in this thread)
   and
   ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
   english/english (which is the one from new ubuntu, without the fix)

  Update your ConTeXt istallation, both systems use old versions.

  Wolfgang

I wish I could. I cant even run the new version from ubuntu, since
there is some problem with the fourier fonts, explained in an earlier
mail in this thread (and also in an earlier post:
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html
)

And new minimals seem not to include the fourier fonts.

If I set indenting=next (or first) in the enumeration, the file compiles...

Sorry for complaining about old versions of ConTeXt. I am finishing
my PhD thesis, and have not found any nice combinations of text and
math fonts in the new minimals. (I am not too fond of the lm fonts).
If you have a tip about such fonts, please tell me :)

Micke P
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[NTG-context] two small questions about the mkiv roadmap

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, esp. Hans and Taco,

just two simple questions about some minor imperfections in mkiv/ 
luatex. I'm not impatient, just wondering if these are things that  
you're working on right now or if they will have to wait:

1. processing xml files with a DTD. This is something we discussed a  
couple of weeks ago: when I process a valid xml file which begins with  
a DTD, the output I get in mkiv is invalid xml file; the same file  
processes fine when I remove the DTD. Back then (on 08-03-17), Taco  
wrote: It is a bug in luatex, but not an easy one to fix. So I'm  
wondering if there's any progress on this one, or if it has to wait.

2. error reports in luatex. This is something that comes up time and  
again on the mailing list and which I experienced myself yesterday. I  
had inadvertently deleted my luatex-cache and tried to run mkiv on a  
file. The report I got was attempt to call field 'error' (a nil  
value). Now I'm aware that TeX error reporting could be cryptic at  
times, but at least it was a kind of cryptic to which we had gotten  
used. With luatex, I'm constantly baffled - in a 100 years, I wouldn't  
have guessed that this error message meant I can't find the cache and  
the format. So I was wondering if this is something that you're  
working on: making error messages more informative/comprehensible for  
users.

Again, I'm not impatient, just curious.

All best

Thomas
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[NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread luigi scarso
See also Missing  character in texgyreheros

\startluacode
function greek_sub(line)
 line = line:gsub('ά','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekalpha{}')
 line = line:gsub('έ','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekepsilon{}')
 line = line:gsub('ή','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greeketa{}')
 line = line:gsub('ί','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekiota{}')
 line = line:gsub('ό','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekomicron{}')
 line = line:gsub('ύ','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekupsilon{}')
 line = line:gsub('ώ','\\buildtextaccent\\textacute\\greekomega{}')
 line = line:gsub('Ό','\\greekOmicron{})
 line = line:gsub(Ά,'\\greekAlpha{})
 line = line:gsub(Έ,'\\greekEpsilon{})
 line = line:gsub(Ή,'\\greekEta{})
 line = line:gsub(Ί,'\\greekIota{})
 line = line:gsub(ϊ,\\buildtextaccent\\textdiaeresis\\greekiota{})
 line = line:gsub(Ύ,'\\greekUpsilon{})
 line = line:gsub(Ώ,'\\greekOmega{})
 return line
end
\stopluacode
\def\startfiltered{\ctxlua {callback.register('process_input_buffer',
greek_sub)}}

Of course, incomplete.


2008/4/29 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  This should also work (but untested)

\catcode`\ώ=\active \def ώ{\buildtextaccent\textacute\greekomega}
I will give it a try

I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf
Suggestions welcome.

-- 
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it's powerful .
it's luatex .
http://www.luatex.org
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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thank you Aditya, but I don't get that to work. Both with
   
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.03 13:01 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
english/english (with the fix earlier in this thread)
and
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
english/english (which is the one from new ubuntu, without the fix)
 
   Update your ConTeXt istallation, both systems use old versions.
 
   Wolfgang

 I wish I could. I cant even run the new version from ubuntu, since
 there is some problem with the fourier fonts, explained in an earlier
 mail in this thread (and also in an earlier post:
 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html)

No solution for this problem.

 And new minimals seem not to include the fourier fonts.

 If I set indenting=next (or first) in the enumeration, the file compiles...

 Sorry for complaining about old versions of ConTeXt. I am finishing
 my PhD thesis, and have not found any nice combinations of text and
 math fonts in the new minimals. (I am not too fond of the lm fonts).
 If you have a tip about such fonts, please tell me :)

You don't have update your complete installation, cont-tmf.zip is enough
for a new version but you also need the latest version of the latin
modern fonts.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:37 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
 
I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf
Suggestions welcome.
 
   Well, the easiest solution is: use a font that does have a full set of
   Greek characters. The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but
   they are not really finished and are not usable right now.
 I need
 an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier;
 ie
 \usetypescript[postscript]
 is  ok.

You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...)

 You're
   trying to fake characters which are not in the font; this is
   unsatisfying from an esthetical point of view and hackish as for the
   produced pdf (not cut-and-paste, no search etc.).
 yes I know, but actually  i need only  print, and it's  low/mid quality.
 Very raw, I agree.

 If it's
   important for you: for several months now, I have been using a version
   of my Greek module which works perfectly with mkiv; so far, I haven't
   seen the necesity to upload it, but I could do it any time (after some
   clean-up).
 yes, of course.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:37 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

   I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf
   Suggestions welcome.

  Well, the easiest solution is: use a font that does have a full set of
  Greek characters. The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but
  they are not really finished and are not usable right now.
I need
an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier;
ie
\usetypescript[postscript]
is  ok.

You're
  trying to fake characters which are not in the font; this is
  unsatisfying from an esthetical point of view and hackish as for the
  produced pdf (not cut-and-paste, no search etc.).
yes I know, but actually  i need only  print, and it's  low/mid quality.
Very raw, I agree.

If it's
  important for you: for several months now, I have been using a version
  of my Greek module which works perfectly with mkiv; so far, I haven't
  seen the necesity to upload it, but I could do it any time (after some
  clean-up).
yes, of course.

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it's luatex .
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:06 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

 I need
 an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier;
 ie
 \usetypescript[postscript]
 is  ok.

I'm not sure I understand. Why opentype (truetype works as well in  
mkiv)? And what do you mean with  \usetypescript[postscript] is  ok?  
Here's a list of fonts with full Greek support (with some links) that  
are sure to work in mkiv:

Gentium (this one looks good when you mix it with a sans as Latin  
bodyfont)
all the GFS fonts http://www.greekfontsociety.gr/pages/en_typefaces1.html
Minion (comes with Adobe Reader)
Old Standard http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts.html
Recent versions of Times New Roman
Asteria http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/greek-fonts.asp

If all you need is characters with the acute accent (monotoniko),  
you could also look at Adobe Myriad (comes with Adobe Reader) and  
numerous other fonts.

HTH

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:37 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

 I'm not searching for the perfect way, just a way to print a greek pdf
 Suggestions welcome.

Well, the easiest solution is: use a font that does have a full set of  
Greek characters. The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but  
they are not really finished and are not usable right now. You're  
trying to fake characters which are not in the font; this is  
unsatisfying from an esthetical point of view and hackish as for the  
produced pdf (not cut-and-paste, no search etc.). For better results,  
try a font such as Gentium, Minion, or even Times New Roman. If it's  
important for you: for several months now, I have been using a version  
of my Greek module which works perfectly with mkiv; so far, I haven't  
seen the necesity to upload it, but I could do it any time (after some  
clean-up).

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 The TeXGyre fonts have some Greek characters, but
 they are not really finished and are not usable right now.

Just to clarify an ambiguous sentence: they refers to the Greek  
characters, not to the TeXGyre fonts in general.

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread luigi scarso
   ie
   \usetypescript[postscript]
   is  ok.

  You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...)
Can we  share a link , or licences problems may arise ?



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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:06 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

   I need
   an opentype like helvetica , plus some times and courier;
   ie
   \usetypescript[postscript]
   is  ok.

  I'm not sure I understand. Why opentype (truetype works as well in
  mkiv)? And what do you mean with  \usetypescript[postscript] is  ok?
sorry
1) in my luatex env.
\usetypescript[postscript]
is linked with tex gyre font collections
2) opentype because they are so easy to install !
Just download in opentype dir,
rehash,
and it's all ok.

  Here's a list of fonts with full Greek support (with some links) that
  are sure to work in mkiv:

  Gentium (this one looks good when you mix it with a sans as Latin
  bodyfont)
  all the GFS fonts http://www.greekfontsociety.gr/pages/en_typefaces1.html
  Minion (comes with Adobe Reader)
  Old Standard http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts.html
  Recent versions of Times New Roman
  Asteria http://www.ellopos.net/elpenor/greek-texts/greek-fonts.asp

  If all you need is characters with the acute accent (monotoniko),
  you could also look at Adobe Myriad (comes with Adobe Reader) and
  numerous other fonts.
thank you very much!!
(and waiting for you module...)


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[NTG-context] Greek module still in use?

2008-04-30 Thread cidadaum

Is the greek module still in use?
I have been trying to use it wiht xetex but texexec says can't find  
module ancient greek. I have have some quotations in Ancient Greek.  
the font I am using is palatino.

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[NTG-context] Trouble with Index

2008-04-30 Thread cidadaum

So far I have not succeded to make an index in a book I am typesetting.
I write something like:
\starttext
\defineregister[index][indices]
\index[Tantrum]Tantrums can be normal for  
\index[tantrum][tantrum+toddlers]toddlers. Young children have them for
many reasons like being tired, feeling out of control, over-stimulated,
or wanting something they can't have.
General hints: Toddlers and preschoolers cannot regulate themselves
because they don't yet know their own limits.
\completeindex
\stoptext

And the message I get is: index not found/processed. In the pdf  
appears a page with Index but no entries.
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:25 PM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ie
\usetypescript[postscript]
is  ok.
 
   You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel, Consolas ...)
 Can we  share a link , or licences problems may arise ?

Google for PowerPoint Viewer 2007.

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Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-29 um 09:05 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 that in titles the space after a dot ... gets eaten. (Ok, it's a
 full stop, maybe not a dot?)
 I consider this a very strange bug, can't avoid punctuation in  
 titles.
 Enclosing the period in braces {.} did work and is a temprorary  
 solution
 but the problem need to be solved.

Another temporary solution (that I used) was \  or \, after each  
dot.

 \setuphead[chapter][incrementnumber=no]
 I had that already. And I don't see how that would influence
 typesetting of punctuation or spaces?
 I inserted it to get a space for \\ in the table of content, I  
 wasn't related
 to the space after punctuation but to the header content. Just  
 related to
 the minimum example.

Ah, ok, sorry. I didn't really test my minimal.

Even if the book is at the printshop now, I'd like to solve the  
problem for the next time - I need that author/title/subtitle and  
author in ToC stuff all the time.


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Re: [NTG-context] Greek module still in use?

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is the greek module still in use?
 I have been trying to use it wiht xetex but texexec says can't find
 module ancient greek. I have have some quotations in Ancient Greek.
 the font I am using is palatino.

I haven't finished adapting the module with XeTeX, but the error you  
report has nothing to do with XeTeX; it simply shows that you haven't  
installed the module in the right way. But more information is needed  
to help you.

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

 sorry
 1) in my luatex env.
 \usetypescript[postscript]
 is linked with tex gyre font collections
 2) opentype because they are so easy to install !
 Just download in opentype dir,
 rehash,
 and it's all ok.

OK, but installing truetype is exactly the same.


 thank you very much!!
 (and waiting for you module...)

I have just uploaded a new version to the garden. It's not really  
finished, so documentation is missing and there are still a few  
leftovers in the code, but I hope everything is in working order. I'd  
appreciate feedback. This should work with mkii, mkiv and XeTeX, so  
just run a testfile with one of the included fonts:

\enableregime[utf]

\usemodule[ancientgreek][font=GFSElpis,scale=1]

\starttext

Some Greek text:

\localgreek{Μῆνιν ἄειδε, θεά, Πηληϊάδεω  
Ἀχιλῆος}

\stoptext

Here, it gives correct output with all engines:

texexec test.tex

texexec --xtx test.tex

texexec --lua test.tex

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] Table of contents customization

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-29 um 13:27 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 \setuplist
   [chapter,section,...]
   [numbercommand=\DotAfterNumber]

 \def\DotAfterNumber#1{\doiftext{#1}{#1.}}

Just wikified that:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table_of_Contents


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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
 
  sorry
  1) in my luatex env.
  \usetypescript[postscript]
  is linked with tex gyre font collections
  2) opentype because they are so easy to install !
  Just download in opentype dir,
  rehash,
  and it's all ok.
 
 OK, but installing truetype is exactly the same.

A TrueType could be also a OpenType font :-)

http://www.typografie.info/typowiki/index.php?title=OpenType#Unterschied_TrueType-OpenType

Sorry, german only.

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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize numbering

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-29 um 17:49 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
 I just tried the following on Context Live:

 \starttext
 \startitemize[n]
  \item one
  \item two
\startitemize
  \item a
  \item b
\stopitemize
  \item three
 \stopitemize
 \stoptext

 and the first itemize starts at 0.  Remove the inner itemize and  
 it starts
 at 1.

 Is this a feature or a bug?  How do I get around it?

 I can confirm that here. This is indeed a bug.

I reported some weeks ago that numbering starts always at 0 with --once

I guess Hans  Co went after the dictum of Dijkstra[0], as quoted  
recently by Knuth[1], that counting should start at 0 ;-)

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra
[1] http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1193856


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Re: [NTG-context] Trouble with Index

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 30, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 \index[Tantrum]Tantrums can be normal for

 \index{Tantrum}

Indeed. Question to the developers: given that our rule of thumb is  
material within {} will be typeset; material within [] is for setups  
etc., wouldn't it make sense to have the command as index[]? (Maybe  
with an alternative \index{} which will typeset the word AND put it in  
the index?)

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-30 um 12:52 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
  You could use Microsofts new Vista fonts (Cambria, Corbel,  
 Consolas ...)
 Can we  share a link , or licences problems may arise ?
 Google for PowerPoint Viewer 2007.

Quoting Microsoft's download page:


Font Components
You may use the fonts that accompany the PowerPoint Viewer only to  
display and print content from a device running a Microsoft Windows  
operating system. Additionally, you may do the following:
Embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding restrictions in  
the fonts
When printing content, temporarily download the fonts to a printer or  
other output device
You may not copy, install or use the fonts on other devices.


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Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am 2008-04-29 um 09:05 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
  that in titles the space after a dot ... gets eaten. (Ok, it's a
  full stop, maybe not a dot?)
  I consider this a very strange bug, can't avoid punctuation in
  titles.
  Enclosing the period in braces {.} did work and is a temprorary
  solution
  but the problem need to be solved.

 Another temporary solution (that I used) was \  or \, after each
 dot.

  \setuphead[chapter][incrementnumber=no]
  I had that already. And I don't see how that would influence
  typesetting of punctuation or spaces?
  I inserted it to get a space for \\ in the table of content, I
  wasn't related
  to the space after punctuation but to the header content. Just
  related to
  the minimum example.

 Ah, ok, sorry. I didn't really test my minimal.

 Even if the book is at the printshop now, I'd like to solve the
 problem for the next time - I need that author/title/subtitle and
 author in ToC stuff all the time.

Hi Hraban,

can you send me a example with the setups, I will try to find
a solution in the next days.

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Re: [NTG-context] Trouble with Index

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:00 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So far I have not succeded to make an index in a book I am typesetting.
 I write something like:
 \starttext
 \defineregister[index][indices]

Prdefined, can be omitted.

 \index[Tantrum]Tantrums can be normal for

\index{Tantrum}

 \index[tantrum][tantrum+toddlers]toddlers. Young children have them for

\index{tantrum+toodlers}

 many reasons like being tired, feeling out of control, over-stimulated,
 or wanting something they can't have.
 General hints: Toddlers and preschoolers cannot regulate themselves
 because they don't yet know their own limits.
 \completeindex
 \stoptext

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[NTG-context] Referencing Itemized Items?

2008-04-30 Thread Michael . Urban
Is there some way to set up a reference tag so that I can refer to a
particular item in a list, e.g., something vaguely like:

 You must do the following steps:
 \startitemize[n]
   \item Buy the ingredients
   \item Cook the food
   \item [??] Put out the fire
 \stopitemize
 Note that Step \in[?] is optional for experienced chefs.
   
It looks like there are mechanisms to support this in the tex code,
but I don't know how to use them.

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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing Itemized Items?

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:15 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there some way to set up a reference tag so that I can refer to a
 particular item in a list, e.g., something vaguely like:

\starttext

  You must do the following steps:
  \startitemize[n]
   \item Buy the ingredients
   \item Cook the food
   \item [??] Put out the fire

\item [fire] Put out the fire

  \stopitemize
  Note that Step \in[?] is optional for experienced chefs.

Note that Step \in[fire] is optional for experienced chefs.

\stoptext

 It looks like there are mechanisms to support this in the tex code,
 but I don't know how to use them.

;-)

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Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-30 um 14:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 can you send me a example with the setups, I will try to find
 a solution in the next days.

The setups are here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style

I can send you the whole project off-list if you like.


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Re: [NTG-context] who eats my spaces

2008-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am 2008-04-30 um 14:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
  can you send me a example with the setups, I will try to find
  a solution in the next days.

 The setups are here:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Proceedings_style

 I can send you the whole project off-list if you like.

I will try it with your example from the wiki for the moment.

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[NTG-context] headers and pagenumbering

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Hello again,
just trying to understand some remaining issues with my latest project.

--- startcode ---
\starttext

% Setups
\setuppagenumbering[
alternative=doublesided,
location={header,right},
strut=yes, state=stop]

% chapter title in the header,
% but not on first page of chapter
% pagina also in the header, always
\setupheader[text][state=stop]
\setupheadertexts[text][chapter][pagenumber]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]

% Content
% some firstmatter stuff left out
\setuppagenumbering[state=start]

% table of contents
% without header, without pagina
% but page numbering starts here
{
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\title{Inhalt}
\placecontent
\page
}
%\page % too late!

\setupheader[text][state=start]

\chapter{10 \times\ Tufte}
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte}

\stoptext
--- stopcode ---

(1) % or 0? ;-)
I struggled how to leave out the pagina on the ToC page, no setups  
seemed to work.

I just reckognized that I need the \page inside of the braced area.

(2)
How can I leave out the chapter header on the first page of a  
chapter, but keep the page number? (Probably simple?)


(3)
One can hide the page number with location=, but the header on  
the first page of a chapter with header=high. Is there any logic  
behind that?



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Re: [NTG-context] two small questions about the mkiv roadmap

2008-04-30 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 The DTD is a problem with the ConTeXts XML parser and has
 nothing to do with LuaTeX (hope this is right).

i need a test file then (can look into it next week; i'm at bachotek now)

 2. error reports in luatex. This is something that comes up time and
 again on the mailing list and which I experienced myself yesterday. I
 had inadvertently deleted my luatex-cache and tried to run mkiv on a
 file. The report I got was attempt to call field 'error' (a nil
 value). Now I'm aware that TeX error reporting could be cryptic at
 times, but at least it was a kind of cryptic to which we had gotten
 used. With luatex, I'm constantly baffled - in a 100 years, I wouldn't
 have guessed that this error message meant I can't find the cache and
 the format. So I was wondering if this is something that you're
 working on: making error messages more informative/comprehensible for
 users.

 Hadn't there plans to give more detailed error messages for ConTeXt
 as html page.

indeed, but i need someone to write me a xul application that will reuse 
the already opened window

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Re: [NTG-context] minimal example for Cyrillic

2008-04-30 Thread Oleg Kolosov

\usetypescript[modern-base][t2a]
\setupbodyfont[modern]

Should work in MkII if you have cm-super font package installed, but 
doesn't work for me, so I personally use my own typescript with custom 
fonts. Maybe someone can help me figure out why ConTeXt doesn't try to 
generate .tfm's for cm-super? Is there some command to increase verbosity?


Gour wrote:

Hello!

I was able to persuade one user to prepare ConTeXt package for NixOS
distro, but, unfortunately, being from Russia he quickly discovered that
he minimal example from wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Russian)
does not work, i.e.

\enableregime[utf]
\useencoding[cyr]

\definetypeface [russian]
  [rm] [serif] [computer-modern] [default] [encoding=t2a]

\setupbodyfont[russian]
\starttext
Мама и Папа % Some Russian characters
\stoptext


does transliterate Russian characters.

I do not have any experience working with Cyrillic, so if anyone can
provide minimal working example it would be very nice?

I persistently claimed that it must work! :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

  



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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Mikael Persson wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Mikael Persson wrote:

  Hello again,
 
  * snip *
 
   I could reproduce the result and have also a fix but I don't know what
   the correct
   reults should be and other people like Aditya should decide if it makes 
  sense
   to change the current behaviour.
 
   \def\startdisplaymath
{\ifgridsnapping
   \beforedisplayspace
   \snapmathtogrid\vbox
  * snip *
   Wolfgang
 
  This fix seems not to solve the problem entirely. With this fix
  applied, If one now put a formula inside an enumeration one gets
  double space before the formula. This is a test file that shows the
  problem:

  This is basically because in enumerations indenting is set to never.

  You can see the same affect with

  \setupindenting[no]
  \testtext

  One possible fix is to add

  indenting=(reset|next|first) %default is never

  to the \setupenumeration command. For example


  \defineenumeration[example]
 [text=Example,
 location=serried,
 width=fit,
   indenting=reset, %% Add This

distance=0.5em,
way=bysection,
 ]

  Another is to change \startdisplaymath to


  \def\startdisplaymath
{\ifgridsnapping
   \beforedisplayspace
   \snapmathtogrid\vbox

   \bgroup
   \informulatrue
  %\forgetall % breaks side floats
 \else
   \bgroup
   \parskip\formulaparskip % ! !
   \informulatrue
  %\forgetall % otherwise backgrounds fail
   \ifdim\lastskip\zeropoint\else
 \par
 \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax
   \whitespace \vskip-\parskip % kind of forces and cancels again
 \fi \fi
   \fi
   \doif\displaygridcorrection{-\v!top}{\kern-\strutht}% new, currently 
 only option/default
   \beforedisplayspace
   \par
   \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax \else

\ifindentfirstparagraph
   \verticalstrut
   \vskip-\struttotal
   \vskip-\baselineskip
 \fi\fi
   \fi
 \fi
 $$\setdisplaydimensions
 \setpredisplaysize\lastlinewidth
 \startinnermath}

  But this is getting ugly.

  Aditya


 Thank you Aditya, but I don't get that to work. Both with

 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.03 13:01 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
 english/english (with the fix earlier in this thread)
 and
 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
 english/english (which is the one from new ubuntu, without the fix)

 this fails with the following error msg:

 %% Start error msg
 ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
 to be read again
   \chardef
 \@@in:reset ...rue \parindent \zerocount \chardef
  \indentingtoggle \zerocount
 \next1 #1,-\docomplexsetupindentingB {#1}
  \doprocesscommaitem
 \doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
  ]\relax \global \advance \...
 argument ...ndenting ]\docomplexsetupindentingB
  \checkeverypar \ifindentfi...

 \firstofoneargument #1-#1


An old bug (more than two month old :)

Also add this

\unprotect
\defineindentingmethod [\v!reset] {\indentfirstparagraphtrue
\parindent\zeropoint%AM was \zerocount
\chardef\indentingtoggle\zerocount}
\protect


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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize numbering

2008-04-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

 Am 2008-04-29 um 17:49 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
 I just tried the following on Context Live:

 \starttext
 \startitemize[n]
  \item one
  \item two
\startitemize
  \item a
  \item b
\stopitemize
  \item three
 \stopitemize
 \stoptext

 and the first itemize starts at 0.  Remove the inner itemize and
 it starts
 at 1.

 Is this a feature or a bug?  How do I get around it?

 I can confirm that here. This is indeed a bug.

 I reported some weeks ago that numbering starts always at 0 with --once

 I guess Hans  Co went after the dictum of Dijkstra[0], as quoted
 recently by Knuth[1], that counting should start at 0 ;-)

 [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra
 [1] http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1193856

The reason for all these bugs of starting with zero is my reqest for a 
reverse key to itemize and then I could not foresee all the use cases.

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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing Itemized Items?

2008-04-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there some way to set up a reference tag so that I can refer to a
 particular item in a list, e.g., something vaguely like:

 You must do the following steps:
 \startitemize[n]
   \item Buy the ingredients
   \item Cook the food
   \item [??] Put out the fire
 \stopitemize
 Note that Step \in[?] is optional for experienced chefs.

Wolfgang has already answered your question. A suggestion: I usually 
prefer

Note that \in Step[fire] is optional for experienced chefs.

This way, if you enable interaction, Step 3 will become a link, rather 
than just 3.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
  
   sorry
   1) in my luatex env.
   \usetypescript[postscript]
   is linked with tex gyre font collections
   2) opentype because they are so easy to install !
   Just download in opentype dir,
   rehash,
   and it's all ok.
  
  OK, but installing truetype is exactly the same.
Ah yes, at my printing company
1) pfb/pfa : good fonts  (  not easy  to install in luatex )
2) otf : good fonts  ( easy to install )
3) ttf : bad fonts  ( easy  to install )

Of course it's not exactly true (but maybe on average):
a mental habitat, I must admit it, based on experience.
Also, an helvetica like typeface is a must.
  I have just uploaded a new version to the garden.
good. Greek is really difficult for me


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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-30 Thread Mikael Persson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Mikael Persson wrote:

   On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Mikael Persson wrote:
  
Hello again,
   
* snip *
   
 I could reproduce the result and have also a fix but I don't know what
 the correct
 reults should be and other people like Aditya should decide if it 
 makes sense
 to change the current behaviour.
   
 \def\startdisplaymath
  {\ifgridsnapping
 \beforedisplayspace
 \snapmathtogrid\vbox
* snip *
 Wolfgang
   
This fix seems not to solve the problem entirely. With this fix
applied, If one now put a formula inside an enumeration one gets
double space before the formula. This is a test file that shows the
problem:
  
This is basically because in enumerations indenting is set to never.
  
You can see the same affect with
  
\setupindenting[no]
\testtext
  
One possible fix is to add
  
indenting=(reset|next|first) %default is never
  
to the \setupenumeration command. For example
  
  
\defineenumeration[example]
   [text=Example,
   location=serried,
   width=fit,
 indenting=reset, %% Add This
  
  distance=0.5em,
  way=bysection,
   ]
  
Another is to change \startdisplaymath to
  
  
\def\startdisplaymath
  {\ifgridsnapping
 \beforedisplayspace
 \snapmathtogrid\vbox
  
 \bgroup
 \informulatrue
%\forgetall % breaks side floats
   \else
 \bgroup
 \parskip\formulaparskip % ! !
 \informulatrue
%\forgetall % otherwise backgrounds fail
 \ifdim\lastskip\zeropoint\else
   \par
   \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax
 \whitespace \vskip-\parskip % kind of forces and cancels again
   \fi \fi
 \fi
 \doif\displaygridcorrection{-\v!top}{\kern-\strutht}% new, 
 currently only option/default
 \beforedisplayspace
 \par
 \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax \else
  
  \ifindentfirstparagraph
 \verticalstrut
 \vskip-\struttotal
 \vskip-\baselineskip
   \fi\fi
 \fi
   \fi
   $$\setdisplaydimensions
   \setpredisplaysize\lastlinewidth
   \startinnermath}
  
But this is getting ugly.
  
Aditya
  
  
   Thank you Aditya, but I don't get that to work. Both with
  
   ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.03 13:01 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
   english/english (with the fix earlier in this thread)
   and
   ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.24  int:
   english/english (which is the one from new ubuntu, without the fix)
  
   this fails with the following error msg:
  
   %% Start error msg
   ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
   to be read again
 \chardef
   \@@in:reset ...rue \parindent \zerocount \chardef
\indentingtoggle 
 \zerocount
   \next1 #1,-\docomplexsetupindentingB {#1}
\doprocesscommaitem
   \doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
]\relax \global \advance 
 \...
   argument ...ndenting ]\docomplexsetupindentingB
\checkeverypar 
 \ifindentfi...
  
   \firstofoneargument #1-#1
  

  An old bug (more than two month old :)

  Also add this

  \unprotect
  \defineindentingmethod [\v!reset] {\indentfirstparagraphtrue
 \parindent\zeropoint%AM was \zerocount
 \chardef\indentingtoggle\zerocount}
  \protect
  Aditya

Thank you Aditya (and also thank you Wolfgang!) Your help is really appreciated!

Micke P
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing greeks characters in texgyreheros

2008-04-30 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-30 um 19:22 schrieb luigi scarso:
 Ah yes, at my printing company
 1) pfb/pfa : good fonts  (  not easy  to install in luatex )
 2) otf : good fonts  ( easy to install )
 3) ttf : bad fonts  ( easy  to install )

 Of course it's not exactly true (but maybe on average):
 a mental habitat, I must admit it, based on experience.
 Also, an helvetica like typeface is a must.

In the old times some PS Level2 RIPs couldn't handle Truetype fonts.  
And most bad fonts are Truetype.
But in fact the format tells nothing about quality or printability.

OpenType fonts can contain Truetype-based outlines as well as  
PostScript-based (quadratic vs. cubic curves). Usually .otf files  
contain PostScript-based outlines, while .ttf can mean old Truetype  
as well as TrueType-based OpenType. I.e. the TrueType format can  
encode its slots in Unicode (obligatory for OpenType) or in any other  
encoding.

  I have just uploaded a new version to the garden.
 good. Greek is really difficult for me
Yes, it's Greek to everyone ;-)


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Re: [NTG-context] two small questions about the mkiv roadmap

2008-04-30 Thread luigi scarso
  indeed, but i need someone to write me a xul application that will reuse
  the already opened window
firefox ?
Not IE ?
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Re: [NTG-context] Trouble with Index

2008-04-30 Thread cidadaum
 Indeed. Question to the developers: given that our rule of thumb is
 material within {} will be typeset; material within [] is for setups
 etc., wouldn't it make sense to have the command as index[]? (Maybe
 with an alternative \index{} which will typeset the word AND put it in
 the index?)

Ok, but what am I doing wrong? Should I typeset \index[] or \index{}?  
Or am I missing some trick? Or is this problem  waiting for solution.
I have put both ways in my file and the page with Index is still empty.

Armando Martins

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 On Apr 30, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 \index[Tantrum]Tantrums can be normal for

 \index{Tantrum}

 Indeed. Question to the developers: given that our rule of thumb is
 material within {} will be typeset; material within [] is for setups
 etc., wouldn't it make sense to have the command as index[]? (Maybe
 with an alternative \index{} which will typeset the word AND put it in
 the index?)

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Re: [NTG-context] Greek module still in use?

2008-04-30 Thread cidadaum
 I haven't finished adapting the module with XeTeX, but the error you
 report has nothing to do with XeTeX; it simply shows that you haven't
 installed the module in the right way. But more information is needed
 to help you.

I have unzipped the folder to my texmf tree so it looks like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cd /usr/share/texmf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/texmf ls
bibtex  context  dvipsls-R   mft  text-greek-2008.04.30
bin doc  fmtutil  makeindex  scripts  texconfig  web2c
chktex  dvipdfm  fontsmetafont   teTeXtexmf  xdvi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/texmf

Then I ran texhash.
I am using Linux OpenSuse 10.3 KDE.

armando martins

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 On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is the greek module still in use?
 I have been trying to use it wiht xetex but texexec says can't find
 module ancient greek. I have have some quotations in Ancient Greek.
 the font I am using is palatino.

 I haven't finished adapting the module with XeTeX, but the error you
 report has nothing to do with XeTeX; it simply shows that you haven't
 installed the module in the right way. But more information is needed
 to help you.

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