Re: [NTG-context] Problem with MkIV and tikz

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Marcin Borkowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I've got yet another problem with ConTeXt...  I was using MkII and
 \usemodule[tikz].  Everything went smoothly until I tried MkIV; it can't
 find the tikz module.

 What I did was:

 1. I installed the ConTeXt minimals.
 2. I downloaded pgf from sourceforge and unpacked it somewhere in the
   context tree.
 3. I ran texhash so that the file database got rebuilt.
 4. For MkII, this was enough.
 5. But then, I wanted to use an earlier advice on fonts in MkIV and
   switched to platino (=pagella).
 6. Although pagella works fine, ConTeXt no longer finds the tikz module.

 Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?

MkIV use it's own file database, you can update it with luatools --generate.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Some layout questions

2008-08-28 Thread Ulrich Dirr
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Ulrich Dirr wrote:
 
  After defining a typescript (see comlete example attached) I want to use
  protrusion and expansion (I've followed the description in
  co-typography.pdf):
 
  \definetypeface[kievit][rm][sans][kievit][default][features=hz]
  \definetypeface[kievit][ss][sans][kievit][default][features=hz]
  \definetypeface[kievit][tt][mono][modern][default][rscale=1.12]
  \definetypeface[kievit][mm][math][iwona] [default][rscale=1.02]
 
  \usetypescript[kievit]
  \setupbodyfont[kievit,ss,10pt]
  \definefontfeature[default][default]
  [protrusion=pure,expansion=quality,mode=node,script=latn]
 
 This line should read:
 
\definefontfeature[hz][default]
  [prot
 
 Afaics, everything else looks ok.

But has no effect :-(

Best regards,
Ulrich


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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with itemization, continued

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Marcin Borkowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, it's me again...

 I managed to finish my first serious ConTeXt project (in fact, it was
 a two-page math test for my wife, who teaches maths;)).

 But I encountered quite a few problems with itemizations.  To sum it up,
 I've prepared a minimal sample file illustrating them.  Here it is:

 = cut here =
 \def\testitemize#1#2#3{{\bf #1}\par
 \startitemize #2
 \item plplplpl
 \item plplplpl
  \startitemize #3
  \item plplplpl
  \item plplplpl
  \item plplplpl
  \item plplplpl
  \item plplplpl
  \stopitemize
 \item plplplpl
 \stopitemize
 {\bf Blah, blah.}
 \page}

 \starttext

 \testitemize{Default values.  Works fine.}
{}{}

 \testitemize{Different numbering.  Results in overfull hboxes---???}
{}{[a][left=(,right=),stopper=]}

Use [a,broad][...] or [a][width=...,...] for the inner list.

 \testitemize{Outer one packed.  Inner one gets also packed---is this
 ok???}
{[packed]}{}

Yes but you could use [unpacked] for the inner list.

 \testitemize{Inner one packed.  Works fine.}
{}{[packed]}

 \testitemize{Both packed.  Works fine.}
{[packed]}{[packed]}

 \testitemize{Inner one joinedup.  Works as packed---???}
{}{[joinedup]}

 \testitemize{Inner one packed and joinedup.  Works as packed---???}
{}{[packed,joinedup]}

 \testitemize{Outer one joinedup.  Does this imply packed?}
{[joinedup]}{}

 \testitemize{Inner one twocolumn.  Why is this packed, too?}
{}{[columns]}

 \testitemize{Inner one 2-col and joinedup.  What about the space
  {\em after} the inner one?}
{}{[joinedup,columns]}

 \testitemize{Outer one twocolumn.  packed implied???}
{[columns]}{}

 \testitemize{Outer one 2-col. and joinedup.  packed implied (?), apart
  from that fine.}
{[joinedup,columns]}{}

 \stoptext
 = cut here =

 Most cases are wrong (or at least strange)---each page with at least one
 question mark is something I can't understand.

 Which ones are bugs and which ones are features?  What to do to overcome
 these problems?

 Also, I've noticed that the [intro] option does not _prohibit_ page
 break---is that ok?  The manual (or wiki, I can't remember) says it
 _discourages_ it---but shouldn't it prohibit it completely?

 And one more: what is the difference between \page[yes] and
 \page[makeup]?  I didn't notice any.

 Hope you don't get fed up with me, folks...  I promise to put some
 answers on the wiki soon (during the next few days).  Maybe I'll even
 post a complete working file as a sample...  I hope that all my
 questions (and your answers;)) will lead to a better typesetting tool...

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with itemization, continued

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 08:56:54AM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster napisa#322;(a):
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Marcin Borkowski
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, it's me again...
 
  I managed to finish my first serious ConTeXt project (in fact, it was
  a two-page math test for my wife, who teaches maths;)).
 
  But I encountered quite a few problems with itemizations.  To sum it up,
  I've prepared a minimal sample file illustrating them.  Here it is:
 
  = cut here =
  \def\testitemize#1#2#3{{\bf #1}\par
  \startitemize #2
  \item plplplpl
  \item plplplpl
   \startitemize #3
   \item plplplpl
   \item plplplpl
   \item plplplpl
   \item plplplpl
   \item plplplpl
   \stopitemize
  \item plplplpl
  \stopitemize
  {\bf Blah, blah.}
  \page}
 
  \starttext
 
  \testitemize{Different numbering.  Results in overfull hboxes---???}
 {}{[a][left=(,right=),stopper=]}
 
 Use [a,broad][...] or [a][width=...,...] for the inner list.

Thanks, it works - but still, for me it's a workaround; what if I don't
want it to be broad or to fiddle with widths (I didn't check the width
idea, I guess it's about explicitly giving the width of the (a) etc.;
but even without broad/width I'd expect it to work.)

(Not that I'm unhappy with ConTeXt in general, but as a user I'd like it
to be as good and usable as possible...)

 
  \testitemize{Outer one packed.  Inner one gets also packed---is this
  ok???}
 {[packed]}{}
 
 Yes but you could use [unpacked] for the inner list.

Thanks, it also works.  It isn't documented anywhere, I'm afraid - I'll
try to post this to the wiki.

The other ones are still mysterious to me.

Greets

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Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip

2008-08-28 Thread David Arnold
I followed these directions exactly and scite is working out of the  
box on mswincontext.zip.

To remove RubyGems from a single Ruby installation, from the
site_ruby/1.8 directory of that installation, remove:

* rubygems.rb (file)
* rubygems (directory)

If you do not have RubyGems installed in other Ruby installation
directories, you can also remove the following files from whatever
command directory is listed in your PATH:

* gem
* gemwhich
* gem_server
* gem_mirror
* generate_yaml_index.rb

And if you are removing RubyGems completely, don't forget to remove the
RUBYOPT environment variable from your environment.

Without actually trying it, I think that will do it.


D.


I also added import metapost in scite, but not all of the menu items  
on the tool menu work, in fact most of them don't work. Ctrl+6  
doesn't open the console, I can't get gsview to work instead of gv, etc.

D.


On Aug 28, 2008, at 12:35 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found all my gems problems were coming from an environment  
 variable which
 pointed to rubygems. After I deleted it all the probs went away.  
 You will
 nedd to search using set as I have forgotten the variable

 ah, if we know that variable we can delete it in the startup script

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Re: [NTG-context] setting mode in ctx-file

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:
 Hello,
 
 How can I set a mode in a ctx-file? I would like to pass such a file to
 context --ctx=file ...
 
 If further modes are passed with --mode=..., these modes should not replace
 the mode in the ctx-file, but should be added.

?xml version='1.0' standalone='yes'?

ctx:job
 ctx:messagesome project/ctx:message
 ctx:preprocess/
 ctx:flags
 ctx:flagtexengine=luatex/ctx:flag
 ctx:flaginterface=en/ctx:flag
 /ctx:flags
 ctx:process
 ctx:resources
 ctx:environmentsomestyle.tex/ctx:environment
 ctx:modeproofing/ctx:mode
 /ctx:resources
 /ctx:process
 ctx:postprocess/
/ctx:job



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Re: [NTG-context] Some Progress on Installing mswincontext.zip

2008-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:01 PM, David Arnold wrote:

 I tried to add metapost.properties to the global with import metapost. I
 can Build a file, but the Go command does not work because I don't have
 gv installed. So I opened metapost.properties and tried changing the gv
 command to gsview32 (and even tried c:\Program
 Files\ghostgum\gsview\gsview32.exe), but neither worked.
 Any suggestions how I can get the go command to work?

I don't know much about windows, but zips don't install gs for you.
I usually unzipped both gs and gv (gsview32) to some folder and added
it to path manually.

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Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-28 Thread Yue Wang
There is a context reference project, you can help to document it~

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Alan Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you, or somebody else, know of any such other basic and precious
 documents which should be included in the main manual, instead of (for
 whatever reason) hidden in some subdomain or subdirectory ?

 Best,
 Alan
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,


  Meanwhile found the underneath document, which seems to be the most
  corresponding
  ( though incomplete compared to pg 24 of the main manual )
 
  Shows a page layout in half size
  http://levana.de/context/layout/testlay.pdf

 made with

 http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-layout

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[NTG-context] wiki and MkIV

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Hello!

Is it possible to use on the wiki something like

context source=yes
... some ConTeXt code ...
/context

with MkIV support?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [NTG-context] wiki and MkIV

2008-08-28 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

 Is it possible to use on the wiki something like

 context source=yes
 ... some ConTeXt code ...
 /context

 with MkIV support?

Not at the moment. Is this a strong feature request?

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Re: [NTG-context] Some layout questions

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Ulrich Dirr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Ulrich Dirr wrote:
 
  After defining a typescript (see comlete example attached) I want to use
  protrusion and expansion (I've followed the description in
  co-typography.pdf):
 
  \definetypeface[kievit][rm][sans][kievit][default][features=hz]
  \definetypeface[kievit][ss][sans][kievit][default][features=hz]
  \definetypeface[kievit][tt][mono][modern][default][rscale=1.12]
  \definetypeface[kievit][mm][math][iwona] [default][rscale=1.02]
 
  \usetypescript[kievit]
  \setupbodyfont[kievit,ss,10pt]
  \definefontfeature[default][default]
  [protrusion=pure,expansion=quality,mode=node,script=latn]

 This line should read:

\definefontfeature[hz][default]
  [prot

 Afaics, everything else looks ok.

 But has no effect :-(

\definefontfeature[latin-default]  [default]
[script=latn,expansion=quality,protrusion=pure]
\definefontfeature[latin-smallcaps][smallcaps][script=latn,expansion=quality,protrusion=pure]
\definefontfeature[latin-oldstyle] [oldstyle]
[script=latn,expansion=quality,protrusion=pure]

\starttypescript [sans] [kievit]
  \definefontsynonym [KievitProRegular]
[name:KievitPro-Regular] [features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [KievitProMedium]
[name:KievitPro-Medium]  [features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [KievitProExtraBold]
[name:KievitPro-ExtraBold]   [features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [KievitProItalic]
[name:KievitPro-Italic]  [features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [KievitProMediumItalic]
[name:KievitPro-MediumItalic][features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [KievitProExtraBoldItalic]
[name:KievitPro-ExtraBoldItalic] [features=latin-default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [kievit]
  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]   [KievitProRegular]
[features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]   [KievitProMedium]
[features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [KievitProItalic]
[features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [KievitProMediumItalic]
[features=latin-default]
  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]   [Sans]
[features=latin-smallcaps]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [kieviet]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [sans] [\typescriptone] [default]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [ss] [sans] [\typescriptone] [default]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [tt] [mono] [modern]
[default] [rscale=1.12]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math] [iwona]
[default] [rscale=1.02]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[kievit]
\setupbodyfont[kievit,ss,10pt]

\enableadjusting
\enableprotruding

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Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-28 Thread Yue Wang
in fact i like the logo on the photo.
It's cool

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another request: can the photo please go to blog rather than being on
 the first page of the wiki? (It's been fun, but I feel that promoting
 Union on the first page is not the best idea :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Some layout questions

2008-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Ulrich,

Ulrich Dirr wrote:

 Afaics, everything else looks ok.
 
 But has no effect :-(

I was apparently still sleeping when I wrote that. Here is what
works for me:

% engine=luatex
\definefontfeature
[default][default]
[protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,mode=node,script=latn]

\definetypeface[kievit][rm][serif][times][default]
\definetypeface[kievit][ss][serif][times][default]
\definetypeface[kievit][tt][mono][modern][default][rscale=1.12]
\definetypeface[kievit][mm][math][iwona] [default][rscale=1.02]

\setupbodyfont[kievit,ss,10pt]

\starttext
\showframe
\setupalign[hanging] \input tufte
\stoptext
%

I used [serif][times] instead of [sans][kievit] because I don't have
the font, but that should not matter. Things to note:

* The relative ordering of commands matters, your \definefontfeature
   was too late. I'll try to document that in the manual.
* You only need \usetypescript[xxx] if the \definetypeface
   commands are actually inside of a \starttypescript[xxx] block.
* It turns out I could not use [features=hz] because at a lower
   level [times] already sets up [features=default], and that setting
   wins over the high-level one.
   But in your new setup for kievit, you could also do it this way:
 \definefontfeature
[hz][default]
[protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,mode=node,script=latn]
  \definetypeface[kievit][rm][serif][times][default][features=hz]
   just make sure not to attach any [features=...] to the
   \definefontsynonym commands.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] context meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hi,

 I really enjoyed myself at last weeks's meeting. Mojca and friends have
 done a great job. In addition to a filled up program we had a wonderful
 day going around Slovenia (incredibly silent outside the facilities and
 a sky full of stars, something impossible in nl), terrific bonfires,

This ConTeXt meeting has been for me a really wonderful
chance to get back in the loop of the TeX world in general
and the ConTeXt world in particular. My most grateful thanks
go to the organizers (and the participants!) for the the
wonderful week spent in Slovenia.

 I probably forget a few things

You mean, like, git?

8-D

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Re: [NTG-context] context meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Yue Wang
will www.river-valley.tv broadcast it?
btw, I want to see all the presentations, but there are only a few on
context garden:(

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hi,

 I really enjoyed myself at last weeks's meeting. Mojca and friends have
 done a great job. In addition to a filled up program we had a wonderful
 day going around Slovenia (incredibly silent outside the facilities and
 a sky full of stars, something impossible in nl), terrific bonfires,

 This ConTeXt meeting has been for me a really wonderful
 chance to get back in the loop of the TeX world in general
 and the ConTeXt world in particular. My most grateful thanks
 go to the organizers (and the participants!) for the the
 wonderful week spent in Slovenia.

 I probably forget a few things

 You mean, like, git?

 8-D

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Re: [NTG-context] context meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 will www.river-valley.tv broadcast it?
 btw, I want to see all the presentations, but there are only a few on
 context garden:(

  It will be updated (with the presentations we have, obviously).

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Re: [NTG-context] context meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 I probably forget a few things
 
 You mean, like, git?

right, how could i forget!

Hans

ps. and of course all those sessions regarding the right pronouciations 
of italian names -)

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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Marcin Borkowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dnia Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:05:18PM +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz napisa#322;(a):

 On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

  * Is TeX Gyre support already working in MkIV?
 Yes

 
  * The page about Minimals on the wiki mentions LM, Antykwa Torunska,
   Iwona, Kurier, TeX Gyre, ams.  Does this means they are available
   there?  (And what about Antykwa Poltawskiego...?)
 Yes. Maybe you can investigate yourself about Antykwa Poltawskiego

 
  * How do I switch to any of these fonts (I mean for the whole
  document)?
 \usetypescriptfile[type-otf]
 \usetypescript[times]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 for Termes, or palatino for Pagella, or... Just look at $TEXMF/tex/
 context/base/type-otf.tex

 
  * How do I (globally) change the size of the font?

 \setupbodyfont[times,11pt] or 14pt or 9pt or...

 Thomas

 Thanks again...  I tried to put some info on the wiki (as promised):
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/A_Beginner's_Guide_to_Using_Fonts_in_Mark_IV
 However, I had serious problems with a few fonts.  After skimming
 through type-otf.tex I thought these would work, but no - they don't...
 (See the above page for which fonts generate problems.)  Also, please
 check whether the page I've written is correct, especially the last
 paragraph...

 And one more problem, just out of curiosity: is
 \usetypescriptfile[type-otf] really necessary?  Why is it not the
 default (at least in MkIV)?

It is default for XeTeX and LuaTeX.

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Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 There is a context reference project, you can help to document it~

  I concur.  This would be immensely more useful than contributing huge
threads and smart-arse remarks to this mailing-list (I especially like
the irony of your -- Alan's -- complaints about wasting [your] precious
time).

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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Marcin Borkowski wrote:

 And one more problem, just out of curiosity: is
 \usetypescriptfile[type-otf] really necessary?  Why is it not the
 default (at least in MkIV)?

it is loaded by default


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Re: [NTG-context] wiki and MkIV

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:48:11AM +0200, Patrick Gundlach napisa#322;(a):
 Hi,
 
  Is it possible to use on the wiki something like
 
  context source=yes
  ... some ConTeXt code ...
  /context
 
  with MkIV support?
 
 Not at the moment. Is this a strong feature request?

Not really - rather something which I would like to be done some
day...;)

 
 Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] Some layout questions

2008-08-28 Thread Ulrich Dirr
Hi Taco,

On 2008-08-28 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 % engine=luatex
 \definefontfeature
 [default][default]
 [protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,mode=node,script=latn]
  \definetypeface[kievit][rm][serif][times][default]
 \definetypeface[kievit][ss][serif][times][default]
 \definetypeface[kievit][tt][mono][modern][default][rscale=1.12]
 \definetypeface[kievit][mm][math][iwona] [default][rscale=1.02]
 
 \setupbodyfont[kievit,ss,10pt]
 
 \starttext
 \showframe
 \setupalign[hanging] \input tufte
 \stoptext
 %

This works!
 
 I used [serif][times] instead of [sans][kievit] because I don't have
 the font, but that should not matter. Things to note:
 
 * The relative ordering of commands matters, your \definefontfeature
was too late. I'll try to document that in the manual.
 * You only need \usetypescript[xxx] if the \definetypeface
commands are actually inside of a \starttypescript[xxx] block.
 * It turns out I could not use [features=hz] because at a lower
level [times] already sets up [features=default], and that setting
wins over the high-level one.
But in your new setup for kievit, you could also do it this way:
  \definefontfeature
 [hz][default]
 [protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,mode=node,script=latn]
   \definetypeface[kievit][rm][serif][times][default][features=hz]
just make sure not to attach any [features=...] to the
\definefontsynonym commands.

Thank you very much for explaining these mysteries. The whole typescript
thingy is a strange black box for me ...

Interesting is that you instruct me not to use any features in
\definefontsynonym -- I had just copied this from the wiki. Then the wiki
should be updated ;-)

I would like to see on the wiki a real life working example for luatex/mkiv
using OpenType pro fonts for roman and sans serif, e.g. MinionPro and
MetaPro. Using several font features and languages (e.g. small caps, caps
spacing, greek, etc.)

This would demystify font handling a lot.

Best regards,
Ulrich



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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi Marcin,

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Marcin Borkowski
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks again...  I tried to put some info on the wiki (as promised):
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/A_Beginner's_Guide_to_Using_Fonts_in_Mark_IV
 However, I had serious problems with a few fonts.  After skimming
 through type-otf.tex I thought these would work, but no - they don't...
 (See the above page for which fonts generate problems.)  Also, please
 check whether the page I've written is correct, especially the last
 paragraph...

I have not seen your original post yet, so I am replying to Wolfgang's 
reply. It seems you have misunderstood the system slightly: the
predefined typescripts are given in table 1.7 of co-typography.pdf,
the tables in co-fonts.pdf are 'typescript building blocks', and those
cannot be used directly, you have to write (at least) a \definetypeface
line for those.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] Some layout questions

2008-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Ulrich Dirr wrote:
 
 Interesting is that you instruct me not to use any features in
 \definefontsynonym -- I had just copied this from the wiki. Then the wiki
 should be updated ;-)

Well, the wiki (Wolfgang) is more right than I am. I was trying to
shortcut something and then later it became clear that that won't fly.
The problem lies with features like smallcaps: these *have* to be
defined at the font synonym level. It follows that Wolfgang's solution
is better than mine.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Patching glyphtounicode.tex directly?

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Vasile Gaburici wrote:
 There are a number of problems with the (global namespace) data in
 glyphtounicode.tex. Should submit a patch directly for this file, or
 is there a script somewhere that regenerates it?

pdfr-def

% comment  : generated by mtxrun --script chars --pdf

uses data in char-def.lua

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Re: [NTG-context] passing dimensions to metapost

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 cleaning up the code in my module, I run into a very interesting  
 problem. I want to pass a user-defined value to Metapost. Until now,  
 the value scale had to be numeric, and I used it like this:
 
 draw fullcircle scaled \MPvar{scale}mm
 
 and Metapost was happy, and I was too. Now Aditya made the reasonable  
 suggestion that users should be allowed to input any dimension and not  
 be restricted to mm. Easy enough. However, I also want a fallback  
 just in case they input a number, in that case, I want to fall back to  
 mm as a default. So I tried (after Taco's excellent explanation on the  
 wiki):
 
 \expandafter\processaction\expandafter[\CVERscale]%
   [\v!unknown={\doifdimensionelse%
   {\CVERscale}%
   {\setupMPvariables[CircleSomething][scale=\CVERscale]}%
   {\doifnumberelse%
   {\CVERscale}%
   {\newdimen\CIscale \global\CIscale=\CVERscale mm  
 {\setupMPvariables[CircleSomething][scale=\the\CIscale]}}%
   {\setupMPvariables[CircleSomething][scale=10mm\relax]%
  \message{Please give a proper value for the scale 
 argument!,
\v!default={\setupMPvariables[CircleSomething][scale=10mm 
 \relax]}]
 
 
 So what I want: first check if \CVERscale is a dimension; if it is,  
 assign it to the scale parameter. If it isn't, check if it is a  
 number; if this is the case, append the unit mm to it and put it  
 into a dimension register. If it isn't a number either, make the value  
 sufficiently absurd for the user to realize and write a message to the  
 terminal. This is all fine and dandy and works, sort of: it works  
 perfectly with dimensions, but when I try with a number as input, it  
 doesn't fall back to the unit mm, but to pt, AFAICS. That's nice  
 too, but I have no clue why, and I would prefer mm. If it helps, I can  
 try to give you a minimal test file tomorrow, but maybe somebody spots  
 what I'm doing wrong? (I tried both with mkii and mkiv, and always get  
 the same result.)

\startluacode
document.mymodule = document.mymodule or { }

function document.mymodule.checkdimen(str)
 return (str:find(%a%a$) and str) or (str .. mm)
end
\stopluacode

\ctxlua{document.mymodule.checkdimen(#1)}

or more fancy:

function document.mymodule.checkdimen(str)
 if not str:find(%a%a$) then
 str = str .. mm
 ctx.writestatus(mymodule,you forgot a dimension unit, so I 
made it up for you: %s,str)
 end
 return str
end

for mkii you can use \doifdimensionelse (it reminds me to implement that 
in mkiv)

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in columns query

2008-08-28 Thread Alan Bowen
It has been more than 15 hours since I last sent this , so I am trying  
again. Apologies for any duplication. A.


**

Hans—

Here is the text that produces the problem on the wiki (pdfTeX/MKII  
option).


\starttext
adeo aberratum est, ut C. Caesar pontifex maximus suo III et M.\  
Aemilii Lepidi consulatu, quo retro delictum corrigeret, duos menses  
intercalarios dierum LXVII in mensem Novembrem et Decembrem  
interponeret, cum iam mense Februario dies III et XX intercalasset,  
faceretque eum annum dierum XLV, simul providens in futurum, ne  
iterum erraretur: nam intercalario mense sublato annum civilem ad  
solis cursum formavit. Itaque diebus CCCLV addidit decem, quos per  
septem menses, qui dies undetricenos habebant, ita discriberet, ut  
Januario et Sextili et Decembri bini accederent, ceteris singuli;  
eosque dies extremis partibus mensium adposuit, ne scilicet religiones  
sui cuiusque mensis a loco summoverentur. Quapropter nunc cum in  
septem mensibus dies singuli et triceni sint, quattuor tamen illi ita  
primitus instituti eo dinoscuntur, quod nonas habent septimanas,  
ceteri tres omnes alii reliqui quintanas.~[{\em De die nat}.\ 20.8||10]

\starttabulate[|p|p|]
\NC
\noindent Things had deviated so much that Gaius Caesar, as \hbox{\em  
pontifex} {\em maximus} in his third consulship and that of M.\  
Aemilius Lepi\-dus, in order to correct the past mistake, inserted  
between the months of November and December two intercalary months of  
67 days, since he had already intercalated 23 days in the month of  
February, and made that a year of 445 days, at the same time taking  
care that the mistake would not be repeated in future; for with the  
intercalary month done away with, he shaped the civil year to the  
course of the sun. And so to the 355 days he added 10, which he  
distributed through the seven months which had 29 days as follows: two  
days were added to January, Sextilis, and December, and one to the  
others; and he placed these days at the ends of the months, evidently  
so that the religious ceremonies of each month might not be moved from  
their place. Therefore now, although there are 31 days in seven  
months, nevertheless four are distinguished by this feature of the  
original tradition, that they have the Nones on the seventh day, while  
the other three remaining ones have them on the fifth.

\NC
\noindent Things got so bad that Julius Caesar, when he was {\em  
pontifex max\-imus}, during his third consulship, which he shared with  
M.\ Aemilius Lepidus, in order to correct the accumlated errors, had  
to insert two intercalary months with a total of 67 days between  
November and December, even though he had already made the usual  
addition of 23 days in February, adding up to a total of 445 days for  
that year. At the same time he made sure that the problem would not  
return in the future, for he removed the additional month from the  
calendar and made the civil year conform to the course of the sun. He  
added 10 days to the old 355, dividing them up among the seven months  
that had 29 days. January, Sextilis [August], and December got two,  
the others (April, June, September, November) got one. He added these  
days at the end of each month, so that the religious festivals would  
not be moved from their usual places in the month. That is why to this  
day we have seven months with 31 days, but we can recognize the four  
which were set up in the ancient system by the fact they have the  
Nones on the seventh day, but the other three long months and all the  
short months have them on the fifth. [Parker, 47]	

\NC\NR
\stoptabulate

Of late my own approach to translation has been consciously to seek to  
replicate the sentence structures of the original Latin or Greek,  
however long or compressed or contorted they may seem to our English  
eyes. The often awkward structures of the original are a window into  
the minds and mental processes of the ancient (and let us not forget,  
foreign) writers. Thucydides and Tacitus, for instance, are not  
particularly easy \quote{reads} in the original, and I personally  
prefer to allow modern readers to gain a sense of the sometimes  
difficult structures that they use but which most modern translations  
attempt to smooth out into something more accessible to our ways of  
thinking and reading. The more we read like them, I tell myself, the  
more we may think like them and so ultimately appreciate how they saw  
the world around them. In a world where most of our students in  
Classics are devoid of Latin and Greek, exposure to the ancient modes  
of thought and expression increases in importance.


\stoptext

You will see that the columns “play nice” with text that follows, but  
not with text that precedes.


Alan
On Aug 27, 2008, at 13;06,01 , Hans Hagen wrote:


Alan Bowen wrote:

Thanks, Hans. I have now tried

 preliminary text 
\starttabulate[|p|p|]
\NC
long 

Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:58:35AM +0200, Hans Hagen napisa#322;(a):
 Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 
  And one more problem, just out of curiosity: is
  \usetypescriptfile[type-otf] really necessary?  Why is it not the
  default (at least in MkIV)?
 
 it is loaded by default

Thanks, it's my mistake.

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[NTG-context] Patching glyphtounicode.tex directly?

2008-08-28 Thread Vasile Gaburici
There are a number of problems with the (global namespace) data in
glyphtounicode.tex. Should submit a patch directly for this file, or
is there a script somewhere that regenerates it?
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in columns query

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It has been more than 15 hours since I last sent this , so I am trying
 again. Apologies for any duplication. A.

Read my other mail, I already gave you a working solution!

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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:05:18PM +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz napisa#322;(a):
 
 On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 
  * Is TeX Gyre support already working in MkIV?
 Yes
 
 
  * The page about Minimals on the wiki mentions LM, Antykwa Torunska,
   Iwona, Kurier, TeX Gyre, ams.  Does this means they are available
   there?  (And what about Antykwa Poltawskiego...?)
 Yes. Maybe you can investigate yourself about Antykwa Poltawskiego
 
 
  * How do I switch to any of these fonts (I mean for the whole  
  document)?
 \usetypescriptfile[type-otf]
 \usetypescript[times]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]
 
 for Termes, or palatino for Pagella, or... Just look at $TEXMF/tex/ 
 context/base/type-otf.tex
 
 
  * How do I (globally) change the size of the font?
 
 \setupbodyfont[times,11pt] or 14pt or 9pt or...
 
 Thomas

Thanks again...  I tried to put some info on the wiki (as promised):
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/A_Beginner's_Guide_to_Using_Fonts_in_Mark_IV
However, I had serious problems with a few fonts.  After skimming
through type-otf.tex I thought these would work, but no - they don't...
(See the above page for which fonts generate problems.)  Also, please
check whether the page I've written is correct, especially the last
paragraph...

And one more problem, just out of curiosity: is
\usetypescriptfile[type-otf] really necessary?  Why is it not the
default (at least in MkIV)?

Greets and thanks in advance (as usual);)

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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Marcin Borkowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dnia Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:29:41PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater napisa#322;(a):

 Hi Marcin,

 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Marcin Borkowski
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks again...  I tried to put some info on the wiki (as promised):
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/A_Beginner's_Guide_to_Using_Fonts_in_Mark_IV
  However, I had serious problems with a few fonts.  After skimming
  through type-otf.tex I thought these would work, but no - they don't...
  (See the above page for which fonts generate problems.)  Also, please
  check whether the page I've written is correct, especially the last
  paragraph...

 I have not seen your original post yet, so I am replying to Wolfgang's
 reply. It seems you have misunderstood the system slightly: the
 predefined typescripts are given in table 1.7 of co-typography.pdf,
 the tables in co-fonts.pdf are 'typescript building blocks', and those
 cannot be used directly, you have to write (at least) a \definetypeface
 line for those.

 Well, misunderstood is not the right word - it seems I just don't
 understand it yet...

 I looked a bit at the type-otf.tex file.  At the beginning, it says
 something like \starttypescriptcollection[examples].  Typescripts from
 this \start...\stop block work correctly (with the exception of Antykwa
 Torunska).  Typescripts from the outside don't work (with the exception
 of Heros).  Maybe I should mimick these definitions somehow?  Still, the
 cases of Antykwa Torunska and Heros are mysterious to me.

% Antykwa Torunska

\usetypescript[antykwa-torunska]
\setupbodyfont[antykwa]

\starttext
Antykwa Torunska
\stoptext

% Heros/Helvetica

\usetypescript[helvetica]
\setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss]

\starttext
TeX-Gyre Heros
\stoptext

 The table 1.7 you mentioned is also a bit strange: it mentions palatino
 as commercial.

Pagella is a free Palatino clone.

 What I was aiming at was: how to (easily) use the fonts shipped with
 ConTeXt (i.e., the Minimals).  I would expect them to be usable out of
 the box; if they are not, please consider this a bug report/feature
 request;).  In fact, I would expect something like
 \useptypescript[pagella]
 \setupbodyfont[pagella]
 work for the whole collection in the Minimals.
 (BTW, why is pagella called palatino etc?  I guess that some aliases
 could also be default?)

Because it's a Palatino clone.

 And thanks for the answer - I'm continuosly learning ConTeXt.  It
 seems that it's not as nice and easy as I thought - but I hope that once
 I start using it, more and more things will clarify.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 I looked a bit at the type-otf.tex file.  At the beginning, it says
 something like \starttypescriptcollection[examples].  Typescripts from
 this \start...\stop block work correctly (with the exception of Antykwa
 Torunska).  Typescripts from the outside don't work (with the exception
 of Heros).  

The \starttypescriptcollection command is only relevant if
\preloadtypescripts is given. If that is not the case, you can
forget about it immediately. (and in the other case it is still 
undocumented, but it should not matter)

  Maybe I should mimick these definitions somehow?  Still, the
 cases of Antykwa Torunska and Heros are mysterious to me.

Answered by Wolfgang.

 The table 1.7 you mentioned is also a bit strange: it mentions palatino
 as commercial.

You found a bug in the manual, I have corrected the table and uploaded
a new version. Please let me know if it makes more sense now.

 What I was aiming at was: how to (easily) use the fonts shipped with
 ConTeXt (i.e., the Minimals).  I would expect them to be usable out of
 the box; if they are not, please consider this a bug report/feature
 request;).  In fact, I would expect something like
 \useptypescript[pagella]
 \setupbodyfont[pagella]
 work for the whole collection in the Minimals.

The top-level typescripts provided by Hans are only examples. The
typeface buildingblocks (from the tables in co-fonts.pdf) are all
there, but the combination of those into typescripts (as in the top
of type-otf and type-one) is generally left to the user.

 (BTW, why is pagella called palatino etc?  I guess that some aliases
 could also be default?)

answered by Wolfgang

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in columns query

2008-08-28 Thread Alan Bowen
Wolfgang—

I apologize for this. There has been an intermittent glitch in my mail  
service. Some of my recent own posts and the replies have not make it  
to my box.

Anyway, I have now checked the Archive and applied your solution. It  
works perfectly.  Many thanks indeed!

Alan


On Aug 28, 2008, at 07;15,51 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 It has been more than 15 hours since I last sent this , so I am  
 trying
 again. Apologies for any duplication. A.

 Read my other mail, I already gave you a working solution!

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in columns query

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Bowen wrote:
 It has been more than 15 hours since I last sent this , so I am trying 

hm, we need some time for sleeping as well

 again. Apologies for any duplication. A.

\setuptabulate[split=yes]

it's auto by default which is kind of wrong (i'll fix it)


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Re: [NTG-context] \placefigure not centering

2008-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 Dnia Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:14:26AM +0200, Marcin Borkowski napisa#322;(a):
 Why this does not center the figure horizontally?  What should I do to
 center it?

 \placefigure{none}{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.3]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }

 I discovered that using combinations with 1*1 helps, but this is a
 dirty trick;).  (Also, none as a label does not work with combinations
 - is it a bug or a feature?)
 
 OK, so I'm answering myself.  The problem is (I guess so at least) that
 the second parameter somehow gets typeset as a paragraph - that is,
 with full paragraph's width (=width of the whole column).  Since nothing
 is said about centering, it is flush left.  This helps:
 
 \placefigure{none}{\hbox{
   \starttikzpicture[scale=0.5]
 \draw (0,0) -- (5,0) -- (4.5,6) -- (1.5,6) -- cycle;
   \stoptikzpicture
 }}
 
 Maybe it's not very clean, but it seems to work.  If anyone has a
 cleaner (more ConTeXt-way-ish solution), I'd be thankful for a hint.

You could probably use \framed[frame=off]{} instead of \hbox{}

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] passing dimensions to metapost

2008-08-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Aug 28, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hans, thanks a lot for your reply. Amazing - the lua code is so simple  
that even I can understand it! I'm certain to use it later; for the  
time being, I want to remain compatible for mkii and XeTeX as well.

 \startluacode
 document.mymodule = document.mymodule or { }

 function document.mymodule.checkdimen(str)
 return (str:find(%a%a$) and str) or (str .. mm)
 end
 \stopluacode

 \ctxlua{document.mymodule.checkdimen(#1)}

 or more fancy:

 function document.mymodule.checkdimen(str)
 if not str:find(%a%a$) then
 str = str .. mm
 ctx.writestatus(mymodule,you forgot a dimension unit, so I
 made it up for you: %s,str)
 end
 return str
 end

 for mkii you can use \doifdimensionelse (it reminds me to implement  
 that
 in mkiv)

Hey, I WAS using \doifdimensionelse and \doifnumberelse! :-) And it  
appears to be working in mkiv as well! I found out the error in my  
code (it was too complex, and I was overwriting a variable with the  
same name; it looks like Metapost assigns sp as default unit to  
\MPvar). Problem solved, but it took me half a day...

All best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Patching glyphtounicode.tex directly?

2008-08-28 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vasile Gaburici wrote:

 There are a number of problems with the (global namespace) data in
 glyphtounicode.tex. Should submit a patch directly for this file, or
 is there a script somewhere that regenerates it?

 As Hans said, context uses pdfr-def.tex, not glyphtounicode.tex
 (perhaps that is used by latex or plain?)

Yes, that is the case.


 Best wishes,
 Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in columns query

2008-08-28 Thread Alan Bowen

On Aug 28, 2008, at 08;02,41 , Hans Hagen wrote:

 Alan Bowen wrote:
 It has been more than 15 hours since I last sent this , so I am  
 trying

 hm, we need some time for sleeping as well

My concern here was that I had not yet received a copy of my original  
post (never did get one). Not impatience with any delay in reply: I am  
fully appreciative of, and most grateful for, the work by you, Taco,  
Wolfgang, and other in developing ConTeXt, to say nothing of your  
generosity in answering my typically basic questions.

Very best, Alan






 again. Apologies for any duplication. A.

 \setuptabulate[split=yes]
 .
 it's auto by default which is kind of wrong (i'll fix it)


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Re: [NTG-context] context meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Yue Wang wrote:
 will www.river-valley.tv broadcast it?

Yes, but we have only recorded about a half of presentations (we did
that for the first time, so I'm still quite lucky that we did what we
did), and some will not be public (if we don't get permission by the
author).

 btw, I want to see all the presentations, but there are only a few on
 context garden:(

We had problems with network at the meeting and repository was screwed
up completely. I have uploaded some files yesterday, and will try to
finish the page in the following days.

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[NTG-context] Padding in natural tables

2008-08-28 Thread B. Tommy Jensen
Hi,,
I have been searching the documentation on natural tables (\bTABLE), but  
haven't been
able to resolve the following issue:

I would like to specify an internal padding in the table cells, e.g. text  
content should start 0.4cm
 from the left edge of the table cell. Also, it would be nice to specify  
the distance from the top border.
(In HTML this is accomplished with the padding option.)

The table is composed with horizontal lines only.

I have tried the distance option for the table columns, but this gives  
ugly broken horizontal lines.

What is the best solution - is there an undocumented parameter, or do I  
have to add a block within the cell
and specify an external margin for that block?

Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

2008-08-28 Thread Alan Stone
Hi Arthur,

I would sooner have you hate me for telling the truth than adore me for
telling lies.
- Pietro Aretino

As for the invitation to the reference project, thanks a lot. I have some
work to finish
first, then will have some free time to gladly contribute.

Wishing you a nice day  ( no irony ;O)

Best,
Alan


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Arthur Reutenauer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  There is a context reference project, you can help to document it~

  I concur.  This would be immensely more useful than contributing huge
 threads and smart-arse remarks to this mailing-list (I especially like
 the irony of your -- Alan's -- complaints about wasting [your] precious
 time).

Arthur
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[NTG-context] space code trickery needed

2008-08-28 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

please have a look at this (probably ugly) code:


\starttext

\definestartstop[MyFootNote]
   [before={\footnote},after={}]

\def\startFN[#1]{\startMyFootNote\ignorespaces}
\def\stopFN{\stopMyFootNote}


This is a
\startFN[65]
test
\stopFN and this is another
\startFN[B65]
test
\stopFN.

\stoptext



What is need in the definition for \stopFN in order to keep the space  
when needed (see before and)?


Thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] Patching glyphtounicode.tex directly?

2008-08-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vasile Gaburici wrote:
 There are a number of problems with the (global namespace) data in
 glyphtounicode.tex. Should submit a patch directly for this file, or
 is there a script somewhere that regenerates it?

As Hans said, context uses pdfr-def.tex, not glyphtounicode.tex
(perhaps that is used by latex or plain?)

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Re: [NTG-context] Padding in natural tables

2008-08-28 Thread B. Tommy Jensen
Sorry for polluting the mailing list with my question - I just
discovered an offset property in the mail list archive that seems
to do what I want.

The TABLE package in Context is really powerful - it would be very nice
to have an updated documentation for it, summarising all available
options.

Best regards,
Tommy Jensen


 Hi,,
 I have been searching the documentation on natural tables (\bTABLE), but
 haven't been
 able to resolve the following issue:

 I would like to specify an internal padding in the table cells, e.g. text
 content should start 0.4cm
  from the left edge of the table cell. Also, it would be nice to specify
 the distance from the top border.
 (In HTML this is accomplished with the padding option.)

 The table is composed with horizontal lines only.

 I have tried the distance option for the table columns, but this gives
 ugly broken horizontal lines.

 What is the best solution - is there an undocumented parameter, or do I
 have to add a block within the cell
 and specify an external margin for that block?

 Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] space code trickery needed

2008-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 please have a look at this (probably ugly) code:


 \starttext

 \definestartstop[MyFootNote]
   [before={\footnote},after={}]

 \def\startFN[#1]{\startMyFootNote\ignorespaces}
 \def\stopFN{\stopMyFootNote}


 This is a
 \startFN[65]
 test
 \stopFN and this is another
 \startFN[B65]
 test
 \stopFN.

 \stoptext

And this code works?

 What is need in the definition for \stopFN in order to keep the space
 when needed (see before and)?

Use the last beta.

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080816.223412.74d6cb85.en.html

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Re: [NTG-context] space code trickery needed

2008-08-28 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 28.08.2008 um 16:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 Hi,

 please have a look at this (probably ugly) code:


 \starttext

 \definestartstop[MyFootNote]
  [before={\footnote},after={}]

 \def\startFN[#1]{\startMyFootNote\ignorespaces}
 \def\stopFN{\stopMyFootNote}


 This is a
 \startFN[65]
 test
 \stopFN and this is another
 \startFN[B65]
 test
 \stopFN.

 \stoptext

 And this code works?



Actually, this isn't code, it's homemade spaghetti.


(It doesn't look like in a restaurant but feeds my needs)

st.
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Re: [NTG-context] Padding in natural tables

2008-08-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:04 PM, B. Tommy Jensen wrote:

 Sorry for polluting the mailing list with my question - I just
 discovered an offset property in the mail list archive that seems
 to do what I want.

Glad you found what you were looking for. One little hint about  
pollution: don't take an existing mail and use the reply function  
to start a new discussion; it confuses all mail clients which do  
proper threading.

Best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-28 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

 But the wiki search really sucks. Search for example for 'my Way': no
 matches found.

Would it make sense to default to wiki search for the google
search? Mojca, can this be done?

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Re: [NTG-context] mswintex.zip versus mswincontext.zip

2008-08-28 Thread Mohamed Bana
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskovsky at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hello,Don't know whether it is already answered or not, but if you have to run
scite.bat from mswincontext folder, not first-setup.bat. It should work out of
the box. First of all, build format files (Oprtions or Tools menu, don't
remember exactly), and then press F7 each time you compile a
document.Regards,Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
 
 

I think making a screencast would save new users ALOT of time.  The following
might be useful;

a) http://www.screencast.com/
b) http://debugmode.com/wink/

Mohamed

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Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-28 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page_New

 If everyone agrees with the new design, I will replace the current main
 page.

Since almost everyone liked the new design better, I have changed the main 
page.

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[NTG-context] problem with \useURL

2008-08-28 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

The colon is misplaced here:

% engine=luatex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
\useURL[xxx][http://www/]\from[xxx]
\stoptext

If you cannot reproduce this problem, try to delete your luatex-cache
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Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 But the wiki search really sucks. Search for example for 'my Way': no
 matches found.

 Would it make sense to default to wiki search for the google
 search? Mojca, can this be done?

It must be some very basic trick. I guess that you need to add a
hidden field with something like
input type=hidden name=q value=more:wiki /

In any case: search needs to look like:
q=bla+more:wiki

But I didn't figure out how to do refined searches at the beginning yet.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] mswintex.zip versus mswincontext.zip

2008-08-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mohamed Bana wrote:
 Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskovsky at gmail.com writes:
 
 Hello,Don't know whether it is already answered or not, but if you have to 
 run
 scite.bat from mswincontext folder, not first-setup.bat. It should work out of
 the box. First of all, build format files (Oprtions or Tools menu, don't
 remember exactly), and then press F7 each time you compile a
 document.Regards,Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

the formats should be in there already but i forgot to do that


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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

 * The page about Minimals on the wiki mentions LM, Antykwa Torunska,
  Iwona, Kurier, TeX Gyre, ams.  Does this means they are available
  there?  (And what about Antykwa Poltawskiego...?)

That font is a bit messy. It uses its own encoding (maybe qx) and
conventions and needs additional files to be functional in ConTeXt.
I'm still optimistically waiting for Torunisation of Poltawskiego :)

I do have documents using it, and I have scripts prepared to include
the font in the minimals ... but I need someone to convince me to
include it (again).

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[NTG-context] vertical position of framed sucks!

2008-08-28 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

in order to write a command=... for \setuphead I am fighting with the  
following \framed:


\starttext
\showframe

\def\TestFrame%
{\hbox to \hsize\bgroup%
\tbox{\midaligned\framed[frame=on,align=middle,width=0.85\textwidth] 
{{\kern0.75em}Test}}%
\egroup}

\TestFrame

%Test% -

\stoptext



I only want the framed Test to be at the same vertical position as  
the plain Test (please compare).

Just how???


Thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] big are big with lucida

2008-08-28 Thread Yue Wang
Are you sure? see the first line of the attachment.

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Eric DÉTREZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

 The bigl, bigr ans so on are really BIG (huge even) when used with
 lucida.

 I think that math-lbr is guilty : it says
 **
 \def\LBRbig  {\@@dobig{8.20}}
 \def\LBRBig  {\@@dobig{10.80}}
 \def\LBRbigg {\@@dobig{13.42}}
 \def\LBRBigg {\@@dobig{16.03}}
 \def\LBRbiggg{\@@dobig{17.72}}
 \def\LBRBiggg{\@@dobig{21.25}}
 **
 Shouldn't it says
 **
 \def\LBRbig  {\@@dobig{0.920}}
 \def\LBRBig  {\@@dobig{1.080}}
 \def\LBRbigg {\@@dobig{1.342}}
 \def\LBRBigg {\@@dobig{1.603}}
 \def\LBRbiggg{\@@dobig{1.772}}
 \def\LBRBiggg{\@@dobig{2.125}}
 **
 ?

 There is a strange behavior :  if I put
  \def\LBRbig  {\@@dobig{0.930}}
 big is bigger than Big.
 How is this possible ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Reorganization of the main page

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 04:35:18PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan napisa#322;(a):
 On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page_New
 
  If everyone agrees with the new design, I will replace the current main
  page.
 
 Since almost everyone liked the new design better, I have changed the main 
 page.

That's great - now I don't have to bookmark the Main_Page_New!
Thanks!

 
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Re: [NTG-context] Font questions once again...

2008-08-28 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 01:55:29AM +0200, Mojca Miklavec napisa#322;(a):
 On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
 
  * The page about Minimals on the wiki mentions LM, Antykwa Torunska,
   Iwona, Kurier, TeX Gyre, ams.  Does this means they are available
   there?  (And what about Antykwa Poltawskiego...?)
 
 That font is a bit messy. It uses its own encoding (maybe qx) and
 conventions and needs additional files to be functional in ConTeXt.
 I'm still optimistically waiting for Torunisation of Poltawskiego :)
 
 I do have documents using it, and I have scripts prepared to include
 the font in the minimals ... but I need someone to convince me to
 include it (again).

well...  there is at least one person;) who would like to use it *very*
much, especially for documents not containing maths.  Unlike Antykwa
Torunska, it is very good for longer texts as well as one-pagers.  And
gives a very nice look to texts - especially for (maybe older) Poles,
who remember it from so many books...

 
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