[NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools in MacTeX was: xetex and external pdf stretching

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Mojca,

Yes, having the standard mactex I had an old ConTeXt version.

On 13 Sep 2007, at 14:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


ctxtools --updatecontext



Done it. Now I'm using:

texexec  --version
TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006

texec --check
2007.09.13 21:15

I've made also:
texexec --make --all

(and nothing more)

While using texexec I'm having no problem.
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.13 21:15 MKII  fmt: 2007.9.14  int: english/ 
english


But with the --xtx flag texexec is now raising a fatal error now:


ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2007.9.4  int: english/english

language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
FilesVersion: 2007.09.13 21:15


?

Many thanks


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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle


On 14 Sep 2007, at 11:45, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Great! Do you still experience any speed problems now? (I have a
feeling that Hans has removed dependency on ImageMagic, but I didn't
try to uninstall it to check if that was true.)


(I'm surely having ImageMagick in my path, don't kwon if it's a  
relevant info)
Well, it seems much faster but as my complex work does not compile  
anymore I have only tested with this, which works pretty well:


\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[it]
\starttext
\placefigure{{\em Semiotiche}: produzione, distribuzione e accesso.} 
{\externalfigure[pipeline.pdf][width=\textwidth]}


\placefigure{{\em Semiotiche}: produzione, distribuzione e accesso.} 
{\externalfigure[pipeline.png][width=\textwidth, height=.1\textheight]}


\stoptext



Best

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)



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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools in MacTeX was: xetex and external pdf stretching

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

There are strange delays on the mailing list I guess...

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 10:31, Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Andrea Valle wrote:


ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2007.9.4  int: english/ 
english


language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
FilesVersion: 2007.09.13 21:15


?


also run

texexec --make --xetex --all

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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Hmmm,

after updating I'm able to solve problems related to figures in XeTeX.
In any case, my graphical project (involving jpgs and pdf inclusion,  
also in alyers)  does not compile anymore.


I'm having this

** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

Output file removed.


What does it mean?

Thanks

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 10:46, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


2007/9/14, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thanks Mojca,

Yes, having the standard mactex I had an old ConTeXt version.



On 13 Sep 2007, at 14:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


ctxtools --updatecontext


Done it. Now I'm using:

texexec  --version
TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006

texec --check
2007.09.13 21:15

I've made also:
texexec --make --all

(and nothing more)

While using texexec I'm having no problem.
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.13 21:15 MKII  fmt: 2007.9.14  int: english/ 
english


But with the --xtx flag texexec is now raising a fatal error now:


ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2007.9.4  int: english/ 
english


language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
FilesVersion: 2007.09.13 21:15


?

Many thanks


Hi Andrea,

you have to generate extra formats for XeTeX, you should type
texexec --make --all --xetex before you can run ConTeXt.

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Many thanks

and how do I update Metapost?
I supposed that

ctxtools --updatecontext

would have update all

Best

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 15:36, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

Le 14 septembre à 11:51:43 Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit  
notamment:


| I'm having this



| ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
| ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

I had the same until I updated metapost to version 1.000 and  
regenerated

some formats (metafun). Now it has disappeared and everything works.

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Re: [NTG-context] cv templates

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle
}, \TeX\
University Press, 240 pp.

\stopitemize

\SUBCVHEAD{Articles}

\startitemize

\item Idris Samawi Hamid,  2005, {\it Installing Expert Fonts:
Minion Pro}. In {\it MAPS}, Issue~33; pp.~19--35. Published by the
Nederlandstalige \TEX\ Gebruikersgroep (NTG), Netherlands.

\stopitemize

\CVHEAD{Grants}

\GRANTITEM{2006--2007} {{\it Oriental \TeX: A New Direction in
Scholarly Complex-Script Typesetting}; Academic Enrichment
Program, College of Liberal Arts, CSU; \$42,927}


\CVHEAD{Presentations}

\startitemize
 \item 2007, ``Oriental \TeX'', 1\high{st} Annual \Context\  
Conference,

 Epen, the Netherlands.

\stopitemize

\CVHEAD{Service}

\SUBCVHEAD{Profession}

\startitemize

\item The \TeX\ Users Group.

\stopitemize

\SUBCVHEAD{Department}

\startitemize
 \item Graduate Committee,  2002--2005, 2006--2007.
 \item Advisory Committee,  2005--2006.
\stopitemize

\SUBCVHEAD{College}

\startitemize
 \item \TeX\ Studies Committee, 2001--2006.
\stopitemize

\SUBCVHEAD{University}

\startitemize
 \item Faculty Council, Fall 2005.
\stopitemize

\CVHEAD{Thesis/Dissertation Direction}

\startitemize
 \item  Joseph Ramagli (MA), ``\TeX\ Theology in Context'',
 in progress.
\stopitemize

\stoptext

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Hans,
So, how can I update binaries?

Best
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On 14 Sep 2007, at 15:59, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:

Many thanks

and how do I update Metapost?
I supposed that

ctxtools --updatecontext

would have update all


this only updates the context files (tex, mp, etc) not binaries

(soon it will be possible to do this from the garden)

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me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Brief investigation and summary:

After
1. updating with macTeX package on macOSX 10.4.9
2. even if I have update ConTeXt and regenerate formats (all, also  
with xetex)


my normal ConTeXt (texexec) is ok, my XeConTeX  (texexec --xtx) is  
broken


This is a test code (saved as utf-8)

\enableregime[utf]
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
%\setupbodyfont[ss, 12pt]
\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\setupbodyfont[Optima]

\starttext

Here I'm working, with all you need: \crlf
òîèéàùç

Don't uncomment this

%\startitemize
%\item a malicious item
%\stopitemize

or this:
%$\to$
\stoptext

Uncommenting makes compilation fail with:

** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

Output file removed.


(More, XeTeX is still slow)

tested also from terminal

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 16:17, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:

Thanks Hans,
So, how can I update binaries?


depends on the platform ... debian ships intermediate updates, at
akira's site there are fresh win binaries, osx distributions have good
updaters, and for luatex there is luatex.org and fabrice's gforge  
repos


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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle


depends on the platform ...


OK, I serached a bit and the downloaded and installed the
TeXLive-2007-Dev

from http://tug.org/mactex/morepackages.html. It's the september 2007  
package.

The stretching problem was solved even without updating via

ctxtools --updatecontext

But I did it the same, then I did
texexec --make --all
texexec --make --all --xetex

ConTeXt works but it doesn't change anything with respect to the:

| ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
| ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

message (which makes the compilation fail in the case of my  
photoBooklet).


Any hints?

Thanks

Best

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debian ships intermediate updates, at
akira's site there are fresh win binaries, osx distributions have good
updaters, and for luatex there is luatex.org and fabrice's gforge  
repos


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me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Hans

texexec --xetex myfile.tex

is broken too:
** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.


(what's the difference between --xtx and --xetex?)

Best

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On 14 Sep 2007, at 20:28, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:

Brief investigation and summary:

After
1. updating with macTeX package on macOSX 10.4.9
2. even if I have update ConTeXt and regenerate formats (all, also  
with

xetex)

my normal ConTeXt (texexec) is ok, my XeConTeX  (texexec --xtx) is  
broken



--xetex too?

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me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Hans

Hmm, if you mean it can depend of Optima (a part from the fact that  
it has worked perfectly before)

the following breaks in the same way:

\enableregime[utf]
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]

\starttext

\startitemize
\item nome dell'insegnamento (es. $\to$ Storia del cinema)
\item settore scientifico-disciplinare (SSD, es. $\to$ l-art/06)
\item numero di crediti (cfu, es. $\to$ 10)
\stopitemize
La votazione é
irrilevante. Queste informazioni vanno inserite in un file di testo  
in una forma simile:

\stoptext

It gives:

[1
** NOTICE: This document contains a `Preview  Print only' licensed  
font **

]
** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.

(I take care of removing other aux files)

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On 15 Sep 2007, at 13:25, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:

Thanks Hans

texexec --xetex myfile.tex

is broken too:
** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.


(what's the difference between --xtx and --xetex?)


depends on theversion of texexec; nowadays we always use dvipdfmx so
there should be no different

to me it looks like one of the fonts is broken, context does nothing
with cmaps (that is, only mkiv does)

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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-16 Thread Andrea Valle

(Thanks Hans)

On 15 Sep 2007, at 18:43, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:


\enableregime[utf]


this one is not needed, xetex is utf



Ok. I read some infos on the wiki but I was a bit confused.
So:

- if I encode in utf-8 I don't have to specify regime \enableregime[utf]
- if I encode in another encodign (e.g. mac roman) I have to specify  
\the correct \enableregime (here: [mac])


Am I right?

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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX after ctxtools

2007-09-16 Thread Andrea Valle

I was happy with old install, with bugs and xetex low level commands :-)

So, er, which strategy you gurus suggest?

Reinstall from scratch (old) TeXLive 2007 waiting for a new release?

I have that project of typesetting our journal which will start in a  
month.
(I'd like to use system fonts, also to approximate the original  
typesetting)



Thanks

Best

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On 15 Sep 2007, at 21:41, Hans Hagen wrote:


Mojca Miklavec wrote:

(I'm sorry for the delayed answer.)

On 9/15/07, Hans Hagen wrote:

Andrea Valle wrote:

** WARNING ** Invalid CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object.
i wonder what that object is .. and who generates the ref, could  
be a
special but you do nothing special in the example so i'm  
puzzled ... do

others have this problem?


Yes. I don't remember whether I already complained about it or not,
but here's another (minimal) example to reproduce it:

\starttext
\startformula
a+b=\int_{i=0}^{\infty}\Gamma\,dx
\stopformula
\stoptext

The main problem (besides being quite slow for the default LM) is  
that

font loading in ConTeXt+XeTeX now does the following:

if (FontName is a valid font) then
 use FontName
else
use [FontName]
end

And that one forgets the third possibility: about the old tfm fonts
which should be loaded without any quotes, for example rm-lmr12

\font\a=rm-lmr12 works, but \font\a=rm-lmr12 at 12pt doesn't, and
ConTeXt tries to use that one. Normally TeX would stop: generate and
report the error at that point, but ConTeXt currently skips those
errors on purpose and tries to use an unexisting font, so it results
in a broken PDF.


i will send you a patch (yet another test for a spec -)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX patch

2007-09-16 Thread Andrea Valle

Really thanks a lot Mojca for the help.

I replaced the two files, I found two copies of font-ini.tex and  
replaced them all.


Then:
texexec --make --all
texexec --make --all --xetex


(I guess the first is useless if I execute the second, isn't it?)

YES!
Alleluja, alleluja,  it works, no complaining, with the test file:

%\enableregime[utf]
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
%\setupbodyfont[ss, 12pt]
\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\setupbodyfont[Optima]

\starttext

\startitemize
\item nome dell'insegnamento (es. $\to$ Storia del cinema)
\item settore scientifico-disciplinare (SSD, es. $\to$ l-art/06)
\item numero di crediti (cfu, es. $\to$ 10)
\stopitemize
La votazione è irrilevante. Queste informazioni vanno inserite in un  
file di testo in una forma simile:

\stoptext



And works also with my photobook which now compiles exactly like this:
http://www.cirma.unito.it/research/alternando/photo/photoBookX.pdf


\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setuppagenumber[state=stop]

\define[1]\Capt{{\darkred \switchtobodyfont[8pt] #1}}

\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\definetypeface[Skia][rm][Xserif][Skia]

\setupbodyfont[Optima]


\setuplayout[
topspace=0.75cm,
bootmspace=0cm,
headerheight=0cm,
footerheight=0cm,
]
%\setupbodyfont[roman, 70pt]
\setupheads[sectionnumber=no]

%\enableregime[mac]
\mainlanguage[it]
\setupcolors[state=start]

\starttext
\definelayer [mybg] 
[x=0mm, y=0mm,  
width=\paperwidth, height=\paperheight
]

\definelayer[mybg2] 
[x=0mm, y=0mm,  
width=\paperwidth, height=\paperheight
]

\definelayer[mybg3] 
[x=0mm, y=0mm,  
width=\paperwidth, height=\paperheight
]
\definelayer[mybg4] 
[x=0mm, y=0mm,  
width=\paperwidth, height=\paperheight
]



\setlayer   [mybg]  
[x=0\paperwidth, y=0\paperheight]
{\color[lightgray]\externalfigure[alternando]
[height=1\paperheight,width=1\paperwidth]}
\setlayer   [mybg2] 
[x=0\paperwidth, y=.45\paperheight]
{\color[darkred]\externalfigure[hbar]
[height=.1\paperheight,width=\paperwidth]}
\setlayer   [mybg3] 
[x=.9\paperwidth, y=0\paperheight]
{\color[lightgray]\externalfigure[vbar]
[height=\paperheight,width=.05\paperwidth]}

\setupbackgrounds[page][background=mybg]


\startstandardmakeup
\strut
\vfill
{\color[darkred]
{\tfc Alternating from 1 to X $\to$ homage to A e B}
\crlf
{\tfb A photo documentation}
\vfill
\setupbodyfont[Skia]
il guardaroba della mente \hfill Oratorio di San Filippo \hfill 20/06/03
}
\stopstandardmakeup

\setupbodyfont[Optima]

\setupbackgrounds[page][background=mybg2]
\section{Design/Test}
\page

\setupbackgrounds[page][background=mybg3]


\startcombination[2*2]
{\externalfigure[test/cubes2][height=.5\textheight
]}{\Capt {Make it simple: use wooden cubes on a plane}}
{\externalfigure[test/testing1][height=.5\textheight
]}{\Capt{If the plane is transparent, a webcam can be used}}
{\externalfigure[test/testing2][height=.5\textheight
]}{\Capt{In the lab: analog cubes and digital signals}}
{\externalfigure[test/testing3][height=.5\textheight
]}{\Capt{What's going on up there? extracting the parameters}}
\stopcombination
\page

[snip]

\stoptext

More, it works fast:
runtime: 14.904212


Wow

Best



-a-

On 16 Sep 2007, at 12:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Oh, and try to patch this file as well.

Mojca
type-otf.tex


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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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[NTG-context] bibtex startup

2007-10-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Dear all,

I'd like use bibtex support. It's my first time in ConTeXt
I took a look at the wiki:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
but cannot understand exactly.

1. I created a bibTest.bib file containing:
__
%% Created for Andrea Valle at 2007-10-02 17:37:21 +0200


%% Saved with string encoding Western (ASCII)



@article{trezegol,
Author = {Trezeguet, David},
Date-Added = {2007-10-02 17:32:32 +0200},
Date-Modified = {2007-10-02 17:37:19 +0200},
Journal = {Soccer International Journal},
Title = {How to score},
Year = {2007}}

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2. I created in the same folder a bibTest.tex file with this:

\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=xampl]
\starttext
As \cite[trezegol] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric  
program.

\completepublications
\stoptext


3. I compiled following the three steps indicated by the wiki
texexec --once bibTest
bibtex bibTest
texexec bibTest


Following the example, I have not indicated explicitly in the tex  
file the name of the biblio file. I guest it is implied by the tex  
file name (or not?)

In any case, I'm having this as a ref

 (Xx, )

plus a new page with
Reference

intuitively empty.

What am I missing?

Thanks a lot
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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
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Re: [NTG-context] bibtex startup

2007-10-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Arthur.
No words needed. I totally agree with you. It's that I was confused  
by the xampl.bib. I didn't understand it was just an example file (oh  
well, I should have suspected, indeed...).


Best

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On 2 Oct 2007, at 18:42, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:


Following the example, I have not indicated explicitly in the tex
file the name of the biblio file. I guest it is implied by the tex
file name (or not?)


  It's not. Look at the output by texexec: it tries to open xampl.bib.
Just replace it with the actual name of the bib file.

  There would be no real point in making the name of the bib file  
depend
on the name of the ConTeXt file you process: the aim of bib files  
is to

hold a database of all your references so that you could share it
between all your documents; you could even have a huge list of all the
books you would ever refer to. So of course you can split them into
different categories but it does not really make sense to have one bib
file for each ConTeXt document.

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[NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-08 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

we (I and Miriam, who is in CC, but she should be now on the list)  
are setting up our ConTeXt installation  in order to (re-)typeset the  
academic journal we are editors.

We are both on macosx: the idea is to use XeTeX.
I installed on Miriam's macbook mactex, and  I also have updated it  
from the mactex site. Exactly like mine.

We're experiencing this problem:
we have an utf 8 text and I'm compiling with no problem on my  
machine. On Miriam's one
1. if we compile with ConTeXt-pdftex (specifying the regime) we are  
having little black boxes near the non-ascii char (i.e. an accented  
glyph is rendered as non accented glyph + box)
2. if we compile with XeConTeXt the resulting pdf simply skips the  
accents (e.g an accented glyph is rendered non accented)


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext

it complaint it cannot fetch the zip

Differences:
1. I am on macbook pro, she's on macbook (both on 2007 intel)
2. I'm using the English version of the macosx system, she's using  
the Italian one.



Many thanks

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doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-08 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Wolfgang,


Can you send e example to the list.


http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/misc/

01_etc: the pdf from which we copied and pasted
andreaConTeXt: compiled with XeConTeXt (fine)
env_etc: the env (we're using a project structure). We have tested  
both with and without the \enableregime[utf]

miriamConTeXt: here we have black boxes
miriamXeTeX: here we loose accents
prd/pro: just for the record, the structure files
semiotiche: the bib files we refer to
source: the tex source


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the mirrors
on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Differences:
1. I am on macbook pro, she's on macbook (both on 2007 intel)
2. I'm using the English version of the macosx system, she's using  
the

Italian one.


shouldn't be a problem


I guest so too

Best

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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


Thanks

Best
-a-



On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


Thanks Wolfgang,


Can you send e example to the list.


http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/misc/

01_etc: the pdf from which we copied and pasted
andreaConTeXt: compiled with XeConTeXt (fine)
env_etc: the env (we're using a project structure). We have tested  
both with and without the \enableregime[utf]

miriamConTeXt: here we have black boxes
miriamXeTeX: here we loose accents
prd/pro: just for the record, the structure files
semiotiche: the bib files we refer to
source: the tex source


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Differences:
1. I am on macbook pro, she's on macbook (both on 2007 intel)
2. I'm using the English version of the macosx system, she's  
using the

Italian one.


shouldn't be a problem


I guest so too

Best

-a-


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Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
information.

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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] -- PHISHING CONTENT DETECTED-- -- DANGEROUS CONTENT DISARMED -- Re: encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Ah

thanks a lot, didn't think about that (well, I wasn't aware at all  
that there could be two glyphs for the e.g. accented e)

I'll start a string replacement strategy.

Many thanks.
Best

-a-

On 10 Oct 2007, at 11:06, Lutz Haseloff wrote:


Hi Andrea,

2007/10/10, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


I  corrected wrong characters in source.tex like following:

Semiotica duale anzitutto peché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


to

Semiotica duale anzitutto perché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


(In an Unicode enabled Editor like Scite there is a difference  
between é and é)


and there were no black boxes in the output of luatex.

I could send you the source and the resulting pdf offlist


Thanks

Best
-a-



On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Ifyou use a proxy you can try:
ctxtools --updatecontext --proxy=The Virus/Spam/Threat Scanner of  
the computer Science Department - University of Turin - warning:  
numerical links are often malicious: 10.213.10.254

(assuming proxy port is 80)

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[NTG-context] -- PHISHING CONTENT DETECTED-- -- DANGEROUS CONTENT DISARMED -- Re: Re: encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-10 Thread Andrea Valle

No way with replacement.
This is consistent with my experience on my machine where the  
original source file compiles with no errors.

It's Miriam's install which seems to be buggy.


Thanks

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On 10 Oct 2007, at 12:11, Andrea Valle wrote:


Ah

thanks a lot, didn't think about that (well, I wasn't aware at all  
that there could be two glyphs for the e.g. accented e)

I'll start a string replacement strategy.

Many thanks.
Best

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On 10 Oct 2007, at 11:06, Lutz Haseloff wrote:


Hi Andrea,

2007/10/10, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


I  corrected wrong characters in source.tex like following:

Semiotica duale anzitutto peché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


to

Semiotica duale anzitutto perché le due distinte origini moderne,  
da Charles
S. Peirce e da Ferdinand de Saussure, hanno determinato due  
distinte tradizioni,


(In an Unicode enabled Editor like Scite there is a difference  
between é and é)


and there were no black boxes in the output of luatex.

I could send you the source and the resulting pdf offlist


Thanks

Best
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On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Ifyou use a proxy you can try:
ctxtools --updatecontext --proxy=The Virus/Spam/Threat Scanner of  
the computer Science Department - University of Turin - has  
detected a possible fraud attempt from 10.213.10.254 claiming to  
be The Virus/Spam/Threat Scanner of the computer Science  
Department - University of Turin - warning: numerical links are  
often malicious: 10.213.10.254

(assuming proxy port is 80)

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Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-12 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

still no way here: damned black boxes!
What do you all think? Should I address it to the mac tex list?

(this one, I guess:
http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
)

Best

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On 10 Oct 2007, at 09:13, Andrea Valle wrote:


Hi to all,
So, no clues?
Being it a fresh install we really do not know what to do...we're  
getting bored of those little black squares...:-)


Thanks

Best
-a-



On 8 Oct 2007, at 16:05, Andrea Valle wrote:


Thanks Wolfgang,


Can you send e example to the list.


http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/misc/

01_etc: the pdf from which we copied and pasted
andreaConTeXt: compiled with XeConTeXt (fine)
env_etc: the env (we're using a project structure). We have tested  
both with and without the \enableregime[utf]

miriamConTeXt: here we have black boxes
miriamXeTeX: here we loose accents
prd/pro: just for the record, the structure files
semiotiche: the bib files we refer to
source: the tex source


More:
We can't do
ctxtools --updatecontext
it complaint it cannot fetch the zip


you can download the zip-file from pragma-ade.nl or one of the  
mirrors

on unzip the file in your local tex tree


Thanks (but why cannot I?)


Differences:
1. I am on macbook pro, she's on macbook (both on 2007 intel)
2. I'm using the English version of the macosx system, she's  
using the

Italian one.


shouldn't be a problem


I guest so too

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-16 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Mojca,

sorry for the late reply but we had to test together.


The problem is that your utf-8 text doesn't use normal eacute, but
rather e + combining acute accant, and pdfTeX will never be able to
handle that.


Ok, understood, good to know it.


TeX needs accent specification before the character. A combining
accent after the character cannot be handled, at least not in pdfTeX -
XeTeX and LuaTeX should be fine with it.


Voilà, here's the problem. We're having different behaviors usign  
XeTeX, while ConTeXt works the same on thwo machines. My XeConTeXt  
works ok. The one on Miriam's machine not.



Can you try to convert the text again using
   pdftotext -enc UTF-8 your-pdf-document.pdf
and copy that text into the main document?


We have already done it. This solved the problems with accented  
glyphs but not with other glyphs

(apostrpohes, dots)

2. if we compile with XeConTeXt the resulting pdf simply skips the  
accents

(e.g an accented glyph is rendered non accented)


The default font (LM) doesn't work properly with any version of
ConTeXt prior to 2007.09.28. But if you load some system font, the
accents should work OK.


Ah! that's exactly so. We are experiencing the difference: the  
problem disappears with system fonts.




If you are using XeTeX, I strongly recommend you to use both the same
version of ConTeXt. The one from January and the one form September
differ considerably.


Ok.

Thanks a lot for your support

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Re: [NTG-context] encoding/compiling issues (macosx)

2007-10-17 Thread Andrea Valle


On 16 Oct 2007, at 21:42, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

No problem. I'm glad that you have managed to solve the problems :)


Yes, using system fonts solved the problem, even if I'm wondering why  
Miriam has this version-related problem while I'm not having it.
In any case, we can start working seriously at the review project  
while waiting for an update.



Which glyphs are still problematic? Can you send a minimal example (I
only need a set of those characters in an UTF-8 file).


Hmm, rethinking about my post, I think that I was writing it  
progressively.

So, the use of system fonts solved also this problem.

To summarize on Miriam's machine:
ConTeXt + \enableregime[utf]: ok
XeConTeXt: ok with system fonts


Thanks

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[NTG-context] xml misc

2007-10-31 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

I' ve started playing with xml -- context.
I've read the docs but even if I am able to do some very basic  
operation I'm in troubles doing my first real experiment.


I've  already generated a book from the collection of html help files  
of the SuperCollider language using a cumbersome python script.
But I was guessing that probably using xml mapping would make my life  
easier.


An example file  to be processed is here:
http://supercollider.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/supercollider/trunk/ 
build/Help/Style%20Guide/Documentation%20Style%20Guide.html?view=log


The html is w3c compliant and being automatically generated seems to  
be consistent.


I'm able to do easily stuff like this, which is a promising start:

\startenvironment scEnv
\enableregime[utf]
\defineXMLenvironment [body] \starttext \stoptext
%\defineXMLenvironment [style] \starthiding \stophiding
\defineXMLcommand [p] \par
\defineXMLgrouped [b] \bf
\stopenvironment


But:
1. how do I simply skip undesired tags? The \start-\stophiding trick  
(which in any case does not work: why?) was a hack in order to not  
typeset the stile tags
2. how can i map class attributes in order to specify for each of  
them e.g fontname, points, color, indenting?


Thanks as usual

Best

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Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

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guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Ciao Luigi,

grazie.
I didn't know about lxml. Very goo dto know.
But the idea was to stay inside ConTeXt so to be able to generate  
the pdf from inside SuperCollider using the provided  interface to bash.

I'd like to consider luatex, but I'm only a bit scaredby
- installation issued (so I'm waitin for a TeXlive release)
- documentation. (where's lxml_in_luatex documentation? I guess in  
sources)


Best

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On 1 Nov 2007, at 05:47, luigi scarso wrote:


On 11/1/07, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi to all,

I' ve started playing with xml -- context.
I've read the docs but even if I am able to do some very basic  
operation I'm

in troubles doing my first real experiment.

I've  already generated a book from the collection of html help  
files of the

SuperCollider language using a cumbersome python script.
But I was guessing that probably using xml mapping would make my life
easier.


Indeed, lxml under python is a cool module.
See
http://codespeak.net/lxml/
lxml_in_python  implements also full xpath/xslt


An example file  to be processed is here:


Please ,if you can, consider luatex+context mkiv; in base folder see
l-xml-edu.lua  lxml-ini.lua  lxml-ini.tex  l-xml.lua
(warning : lxml here has nothing to do with lxml in python, only  
the same names)
I believe that actually lxml_in_luatex does not implements a full  
xpath/xslt,

because  not always these are useful in this context.

(If I need a full xpath/xslthere here, then I have a too much complex
xml document, and I preprocessing it with lxml_in_python)

With lxml_in_python_ and lxml_in_luatex_
you can solve all ** reasonable ** problems.
Sometimes only lxml_in_python is need, sometimes only  
lxm_in_luatex, it depends.


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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-02 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Hans,

On 1 Nov 2007, at 09:23, Hans Hagen wrote:



\defineXMLignore[style]


Ok


\mapXMLvalue cum suis ... see x-* files for examples


Where? I'm still having difficulties in knowing how to find sources,  
plus on macosx these are typically hidden files so I have to make  
some tricks to have them searchable.


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Re: [NTG-context] xml misc

2007-11-05 Thread Andrea Valle

Grazie Luigi,

I'm a bit scared because I'n not a unix person (at least, still) so  
when I encounter some troubles I'm always blocked.


Best

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On 3 Nov 2007, at 12:25, luigi scarso wrote:

macosx these are typically hidden files so I have to make some  
tricks to

have them searchable.


Ah, macosx , not linux.
BTW
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/
can help to setup a mkiv context

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[NTG-context] docs in source, was Re: xml misc

2007-11-05 Thread Andrea Valle
- documentation. (where's lxml_in_luatex documentation? I guess in  
sources)

yes


Could anyone write few lines in the wiki to explain how and where to  
extract doc information from sources?

I'm always finding some difficulties in snooping inside ConTeXt
Or if it is discussed on the mailing list I can wikify the results.

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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-09 Thread Andrea Valle
Hi to all (Idris, in particular, as we are always dealing with the  
same problems... ),


I just want to share some thoughts about the ol' damn' problem of  
converting to ConTeXt from Word et al.


As I told Andrea: For relatively simple documents (like the kind we  
use in

academic journals) it seems we can now

1) convert doc to odt using OOo
2) convert odt to markdown using


As suggest by Idris, I subscribed to the pandoc list, but I have to  
say that the activity is not exactly like the one on ConTeXt list...
So the actual support for ConTeXt conversion is not convincing. More,  
it's always better to put the hands on your machine...


My problem is to convert a series of academic journals in ConTeXt.  
They come form the Humanities so little structure (basically, mainly  
body and footnotes).
Far from me the idea of automatically doing all the stuff, I'd like  
to be faster and more accurate in conversion.
(No particular interest in figures, they are few, not so much in  
references: they tends to be typographically inconsistent if done

in a WYSISYG environment, so difficult to parse).
More, as the journal has already being published we need to work with  
final pdfs.


After wasting my time with an awful pdf to html converter by  
Acrobat,  I discovered this, you may all know:

http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/

The html  conversion is very very good in resulting rendering and  
also in sources, but after some tweakings I got interested in the xml  
conversion it allows.
The xml format  substantially encodes the infos related to page,  
typically each line is an element. Plus, there are bold and italics  
marked easily as b and i
I'm still struggling to understand something really operative of XML  
processing in ConTeXt, so  I switched back to Python.

I used an incremental sax parser with some replacement.
This is today's draft.
Original:
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/02%20imp.pdf

Recomposed (no setup at all, only \enableregime[utf]):
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/02imp.pdf

pdf -- pdftoxml -- xml -- python script -- tex -- pdf

I recovered par, bold, em, footnotes,  stripping dashes and  
reassembling the text with footnote references. Not bad as a first step.


I guess that you xml gurus could probably do much easier and cleaner.
So, I mean -just for my very specific needs, I con probably  take  
word sources, convert to pdf and then finally reach ConTeXt as  
discussed.


Just some ideas to share with the list

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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi Idris

On 10 Nov 2007, at 04:14, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

[you left this out]

Sorry, it was just to refer to the discussion


The
doc-odt-markdown-context workflow seems pretty useful as is. See also


I will try it more in depth. My main problem for now is to work from  
pdfs.
Because they're past issues. Once I have new contributions, I will be  
there for sure :).
I'm also curious to see if mine could be a more general approach to  
(word--)pdf--context conversion.

Just started on it.


http://code.google.com/p/pandoc/wiki/ConTeXtImprovements



Oh, yes, quite useful. But has anyone replied to this on pandoc list?
I thought none.



I'm working on something else related to this issue that I hope to say
more about in the coming weeks ;-)


Looking forward to see the news :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-10 Thread Andrea Valle

http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/

Looks impressive...


I think so


Looks VERY impressive... Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks  
etc.?


Mmh, maybe you're are referring to the original source? The output  
one is bare bone (what I need)

In any case, I upload the wrong reconstructed pdf (too late at night...)

The reconstructed pdf (pdf --xml--context--pdf) is this one, where  
footnotes are handled correctly (an important point for me).

http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/text.pdf
I rendered it with XeConTeXt. As noted by Mojca, there are some  
problems with double apices

In relation to footnote 1, this is what is coded in source :
Sign and Reality


Did you also try pdftohtml -- html -- context?


No. You are suggesting via pandoc? Good point.
The exported html is very clean.
In general it seems that the idea is not to generate information  
related to document structure (as this should be inferred from pdf)

favoring appearance description.

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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-10 Thread Andrea Valle


On 10 Nov 2007, at 12:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Only as a note: all the opening quotation marks are wrong!


Ok, Thanks Mojca, my fault.
it was a problem of encoding, now I set pdftohml to utf8 and  
everything's fine



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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-10 Thread Andrea Valle
 In any case, I upload the wrong reconstructed pdf (too late at  
night...)


(Sorry, I'm always making too many typos: I uploaded, indeed)

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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi Saji,

Thanks, I've already looked at it.
I will surely take into account your idea, as I'd like to convert to  
context my wiki pages (with wikka wiki).

At the end, the problem is html to context.
Powerful library indeed, as far as I can understand Ruby.

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Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]

2007-11-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Yes,


Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks
etc.?


but cropmarks are the easy parts using layers...
:)

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[NTG-context] typesetting a bibtex file

2007-11-12 Thread Andrea Valle

I have a biblio in bibtex format.
I'd like to have it typeset by ConTeXt as a complete document, not as  
a consequence of refs in text  (i.e. a need to have a biblio file)

How can it be done?

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Re: [NTG-context] typesetting a bibtex file

2007-11-12 Thread Andrea Valle

Many thanks, I'm starting the experimentations.

Best

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On 12 Nov 2007, at 19:47, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:


\usemodule[bib]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa-fr,criterium=all]
\setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/BIB/jmb.bib]
\starttext
\setupheadtext[fr][pubs={Principales publications}]
\nocite[*]
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[NTG-context] modifying bib style files

2007-11-13 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

I'm tweaking with bib module.
I saw that there are different possible style
E.g. apa here:
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,criterium=all]

I'm not satisfied because I need Italian names (e.g. pag. instead of  
pages and so on)
and plus the scientific bib style are typically different from the  
ones used in humanities.


What have I to do to create a style file?
My idea was to take one of the files indicated by Tacos' manual and  
modify it.

If so, and then?

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Re: [NTG-context] modifying bib style files

2007-11-13 Thread Andrea Valle
Thanks Wolfgang, but is it enough that I create a new file adn put it  
in the same folder? Ho w do I refer to it from inside ConTeXt?


Thanks

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On 13 Nov 2007, at 16:57, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


2007/11/13, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi to all,

I'm tweaking with bib module.
I saw that there are different possible style
E.g. apa here:
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,criterium=all]

I'm not satisfied because I need Italian names (e.g. pag. instead  
of pages

and so on)
and plus the scientific bib style are typically different from the  
ones used

in humanities.

What have I to do to create a style file?
My idea was to take one of the files indicated by Tacos' manual  
and modify

it.
If so, and then?

Many thanks


Take a look into bibl-apa-de.tex [1] and bibl-apa-fr.tex [2], both  
files change

the english texts into their german and french counterparts.

[1] http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/bib/bibl-apa-de.tex? 
search=apa
[2] http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/bib/bibl-apa-fr.tex? 
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Re: [NTG-context] modifying bib style files

2007-11-14 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Taco,
Ah, didn't know about the possibility of using local dir. Sure, after  
tweaking the file I'll send it back to the list.


Best
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On 14 Nov 2007, at 09:15, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:
Thanks Wolfgang, but is it enough that I create a new file adn put  
it in

the same folder?


Better keep the file with the document for now, and when you are happy
with it, send me the final version for inclusion in the distribution.


Ho w do I refer to it from inside ConTeXt?


If your file is bibl-apa-it.tex, you refer to it as

   \setuppublications[alternative=apa-it]

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Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost 1.001 announcement

2007-11-14 Thread Andrea Valle

   https://foudnry.supelec.fr/projects/metapost/



(little typo)

Sorry Taco, but it is a step  on the way to MegaPost, or are they two  
separate project?


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The source package should compile normally on all systems that are
capable of compiling a modern web2c-based TeX distribution.

The win32 package is intended for texlive or a similar web2c-based
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* Gábor Braun discovered that mpost did not always download the font
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* Akira Kakuto and Hartmut Henkel found some small issues in mpto
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Re: [NTG-context] referencing footnotes in another place

2007-11-15 Thread Andrea Valle

(Ah well, I'm a recordman for typos...:-))

I was thinking too about the database approach, but a system of  
replacements would be enough for my needs.

It would allow me to organize better the source files.

OTOH for large projects this could get a bit unwieldy and  
unmanageable.


Yes, that's true. But I was thinking about e.g. an article with long  
footnotes



Better in my view is to use an editor that supports folding, use a
\start-stopfootnote macro, and fold them out of site when not  
needed (I

have this in the Notepad++ setup).


This is a possibility, indeed

Another idea is a lua script that texexec could use to label and/or  
move

all the notes to a separate database for analyses or other processing.


Of course it would be interesting for critical editions.
My main concern was not so advanced. The separation between body text  
and footnotes is

the only thing I miss from wysisyg.

Best

-a-





It all needs thought...

Best wishes
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[NTG-context] referencing footnotes in another place

2007-11-15 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

the only thing I don't like in -TeX packages approach while writing  
is that I have to attach the footnotes to their indices.
ConTeXt is so clever. Isn't there a way to store the footnotes in  
another place of the file (or in another file, that's the same) and  
referring to the in the text.
When I have many footnotes in the source I get crazy to follow the  
body text.


I mean, with an exemplum fictum

This is my footnote\fn{myfn}, even if it's just my imagination

so that there's a way to a have

myfn = just a note

Maybe with buffers?
I'm an ignorant on the matter

Thanks

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)



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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Re: [NTG-context] referencing footnotes in another place

2007-11-22 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi,

just to know, are there other suggestions?

Best

-a-


On 16 Nov 2007, at 01:22, Andrea Valle wrote:


Hi to all,

the only thing I don't like in -TeX packages approach while writing  
is that I have to attach the footnotes to their indices.
ConTeXt is so clever. Isn't there a way to store the footnotes in  
another place of the file (or in another file, that's the same) and  
referring to the in the text.
When I have many footnotes in the source I get crazy to follow the  
body text.


I mean, with an exemplum fictum

This is my footnote\fn{myfn}, even if it's just my imagination

so that there's a way to a have

myfn = just a note

Maybe with buffers?
I'm an ignorant on the matter

Thanks

-a-

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault.  
Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
information.

(Annabel Chong)



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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault.  
Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
information.

(Annabel Chong)




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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] referencing footnotes in another place

2007-11-22 Thread Andrea Valle

Ah, thanks, I'll take a look (Where?).
Now I'm tweaking with buffers

Best

-a-


On 22 Nov 2007, at 14:20, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Andrea Valle wrote:


Hi,

just to know, are there other suggestions?


There is a module by Guiseppe for epigrams. Maybe it is possible to  
adapt

it for footnotes.

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Re: [NTG-context] Movies

2008-01-17 Thread Andrea Valle

\externalfigure[mymovie.mov][width=4cm,height=3cm,preview=yes]


I can't remember where to find an example in the manual but it is  
something simple like this (taken from mailing list)


Best

-a-

On 18 Jan 2008, at 05:44, David Arnold wrote:


All,

Does anyone have any experience embedding Quicktime or other movies
in Context? Either in the document itself or simply a URL that will
play the movie in the the user's system player?

Can anyone supply some sample code snippets?

Appreciated.


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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for installation instructions

2008-02-06 Thread Andrea Valle

(Well done)

-a-

On 6 Feb 2008, at 20:18, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:


Am 2008-02-06 um 15:50 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:


So, I have a little request: can we devote one week (or 10 days if
neded) for improvement of installation instructions? This means:
- improve a generic page (Installation) with links,  general notes
about dependencies (ruby, perl), general settings
(\useMPTEXgraphicstrue, \preloadtypescripts, write18, texexec --make
--all, ctxtools --updatecontext, ..), release notes
- three (or slightly more) main pages: Windows Installation, Mac
Installation, Linux Installation


I just cleaned up the Mac page (it was really messy) and added a hint
to the minimal distribution - that page goes under the bad name of
Linux_User_Installation. I guess we should rename that.


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-08 Thread Andrea Valle
So first step, What is not correct written in pdf (http:// 
www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf)? All suggestion  
welcomed!! And all suggestion what should be, is missing?


(I like the idea of a book.)
IMHO one should start from scratch, i.e. from defining a new document  
structure. Then the manual contents can evidently be cannibalized  
while writing.
But such a project need official coordinators. Otherwise it risks  
to be a printed wiki (which is good, but it's not  a book)


Best

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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

2008-02-21 Thread Andrea Valle
Ah, thanks Idris, I was thinking about it. My class is in Italian but  
for a cosmopolitan audience, so English is ok.


Best

-a-


On 21 Feb 2008, at 14:33, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:


Hi Andrea,

http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/ 
dp/0881792063/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1203600674sr=8-1


is fundamental and indispensable (Zapf calls it the Typographer's  
Bible),

but if your class is in Italian...

Best wishes
Idris

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Hi to all and sorry for the OT,

but here on the list there are some of the most competent people I
know on the topic.
I will start a course on graphic communication. The students are
ground-zero programmers, all on mac, so I would like to use Nodebox
(http://nodebox.net/).
(Unluckily no time/space to introduce ConTeXt).
I will focus on data visualization, so I was considering to adopt
Tufte's classic The Visual Display etc. I've still not read
Envisioning Information and Visual Explanations.
Any ideas?
I will have also to introduce basic elements of graphic communication
(e.g. fonts, page composition, color usage etc).


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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] suggestion for books on (typo)graphic design

2008-02-21 Thread Andrea Valle

You mean this, I guess:
http://bloggingbits.com/54-typography-resources-every-designer-should- 
bookmark/


Thanks!

-a-


On 21 Feb 2008, at 17:22, Jeff Smith wrote:


Great links and tips there, but last week I also found this. It's
called 54 Typography Resources Every Designer Should Bookmark.

http://www.digipills.com/tinylink/ajout.php

A couple of links there too, and articles.

Jeff Smith

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wrote:

 Thanks, I'll check the site

Best

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On 21 Feb 2008, at 14:31, John Luciani wrote:


tufte.com


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[NTG-context] chapter heads not in bold

2008-03-27 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

Sorry if it's stupid.

In a large environment file I have this:


\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][rm][Xserif][Palatino]
\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][ss][Xsans][Lucida Grande]

\setupbodyfont[tSCIRMA, 11pt]


\setuphead[chapter]
[before={\startframedtext[width=local, foregroundcolor=cirmaBlue,  
background=color, backgroundcolor=bgGrey,  
framecolor=cirmaOrange,offset=.25cm,

rulethickness=0.05cm
]},after={\stopframedtext\blank[.25\textheight]\rm},
style=\ss\tfd
]


Chapter heads results in bold, but I don't want it. What should I set?

Many thanks

-a-


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Re: [NTG-context] chapter heads not in bold

2008-03-27 Thread Andrea Valle

Nevermind.
Me idiot.

Sorry for the noise

-a-

On 27 Mar 2008, at 14:14, Andrea Valle wrote:


Hi to all,
Sorry if it's stupid.
In a large environment file I have this:

\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][rm][Xserif][Palatino]\definetypeface 
[tSCIRMA][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]\definetypeface[tSCIRMA] 
[ss][Xsans][Lucida Grande]

\setupbodyfont[tSCIRMA, 11pt]

\setuphead[chapter][before={\startframedtext[width=local,  
foregroundcolor=cirmaBlue, background=color,  
backgroundcolor=bgGrey, framecolor=cirmaOrange,offset=. 
25cm,rulethickness=0.05cm]},after={\stopframedtext\blank[.25 
\textheight]\rm},style=\ss\tfd]


Chapter heads results in bold, but I don't want it. What should I set?
Many thanks
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[NTG-context] setuparranging issue

2008-03-28 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

I have an A5 paper size to be printed on an A4.
Substantially, I'd like to have 2 pages on a paper sheet.
Now, I can use \setuparranging[2*2]. Works fine if I want to print,  
cut and bind.

4 1
2 3


But I'd like also to have another option, simply a sequence of pages  
(for screen reading, printing and binding without cutting)

This:
1 2
3 4


Sorry, I guess it's really easy, but cannot figure out...

Thanks

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] setuparranging issue

2008-03-28 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Wolfgang,


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Including_pages_from_PDF_document
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0004.pdf
http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/page-imp.tex? 
search=page-imp


This means that first I have to create the pdf, and then to process  
via another context  file

\starttext
\copypages
\stoptext

Can't I simply use a command inside the original code?

Thanks

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Re: [NTG-context] setuparranging issue

2008-03-28 Thread Andrea Valle

Ah-ah!
Willi, I didn't immediately understand but it put me on the right way:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition

I was looking for 2SIDE

Solved

Thanks

Best

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On 28 Mar 2008, at 14:25, Willi Egger wrote:


Hi Andrea,

On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Hi to all,

I have an A5 paper size to be printed on an A4.
Substantially, I'd like to have 2 pages on a paper sheet.
Now, I can use \setuparranging[2*2]. Works fine if I want to print,
cut and bind.
4 1
2 3





But I'd like also to have another option, simply a sequence of
pages (for screen reading, printing and binding without cutting)
This:
1 2
3 4


\setuparranging[XY]		%one sheet with x rows and y columns is your  
friend


Auguri

Willi


Sorry, I guess it's really easy, but cannot figure out...

Thanks

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[NTG-context] placecontent and arranging

2008-03-28 Thread Andrea Valle

(Sorry, always me)

I have such a structure

\startproduct prd_tSCIRMA
\project project_scMaterials


\component licence
\component prima

{\switchtobodyfont[20pt] Sommario}\blank
\placecontent
\component c_00_introduzione
\component c_01_scGrado0
\component c_03_oggetti

% etc

\stopproduct

Everything works perfectly if I arrange one page for sheet, e.g.
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
or
\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]


If have more pages for sheet,
\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]
\setuparranging[2*2]

there's no table of content in the pdf.

?

Many thanks

Best

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Re: [NTG-context] placecontent and arranging

2008-03-28 Thread Andrea Valle

(why?)
Many thanks Wolfgang, I'll try it

Best

-a-


On 28 Mar 2008, at 15:27, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

(Sorry, always me)

I have such a structure

\startproduct prd_tSCIRMA\project project_scMaterials

\component licence\component prima
{\switchtobodyfont[20pt] Sommario}\blank\placecontent\component
c_00_introduzione\component c_01_scGrado0 \component c_03_oggetti
% etc
\stopproduct
Everything works perfectly if I arrange one page for sheet, e.g.
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
or
\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]


If have more pages for sheet,
\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]
\setuparranging[2*2]

there's no table of content in the pdf.


You need texexec --arrange filename to get a table of contents with
imposition.

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Re: [NTG-context] New Member Introductory Rant

2008-03-30 Thread Andrea Valle


By reading the source :)
Joking of course ... but not entirely.





Yes, that's an important point. Many times the options I'm searching  
for are not documented: so, or I'm able to find an example in wiki/ 
mailing list or probably it would be easy to take a look to the  
sources, I guess.
I know it's far from being polite, but really I'd like to have a How- 
to-find-your-way-thru-the-source Tutorial for total newbie. On my  
mac, they are hidden: so, first step, change your visualization  
preferences thru a googled script form Terminal. Second, the (in) 
famous tex tree structure is far from being clear for me. Third, and  
most important, how to extract infos from sources?


This is my main (only) frustration with ConTeXt,

Just 2c

Best

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Re: [NTG-context] \in strange behavior

2008-03-31 Thread Andrea Valle

Auto-reply, but a request fro confirmation:

Again, it depends in imposition, it seems, isn't it?
Without imposition, no probl.

Best

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On 31 Mar 2008, at 11:12, Andrea Valle wrote:


Dear all,
I'm having a strange behavior.

I'm using \in to refer to figures, like in the following:



La situazione è schematizzata in \in[structure].

\placefigure[][structure]{Struttura di SC.}{\externalfigure[img/ 
structure][width=.7\textwidth]}
The code has always worked, but this morning the refs in the text  
are replaced by ?? (while img is correctly displayed, with correct  
numbering).

Any hints?
Thanks
Best
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[NTG-context] \in strange behavior

2008-03-31 Thread Andrea Valle

Dear all,
I'm having a strange behavior.

I'm using \in to refer to figures, like in the following:



La situazione è schematizzata in \in[structure].

\placefigure[][structure]{Struttura di SC.}{\externalfigure[img/ 
structure][width=.7\textwidth]}



The code has always worked, but this morning the refs in the text are  
replaced by ?? (while img is correctly displayed, with correct  
numbering).


Any hints?

Thanks

Best

-a-
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. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty

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[NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-03-31 Thread Andrea Valle

Dear all,
I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing  
list).


I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment  
command.

(the one documented here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ 
Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization

)

The actual version is here:
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf

Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
If I use XeConTeXt (-- texexec --xtx) the file is not attached  
(there's the marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that  
there's no attachment).

As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

Any hints?

Thanks

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] New Member Introductory Rant

2008-03-31 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Aditya

Sorry, I have no idea of how things work on a Mac, but it seems  
strange to

hide the entire tex tree


simply, the whole usr folder is hidden

Ok, I'll take a look an in case come back to the list
Best

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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-02 Thread Andrea Valle
Sorry, but I would need a solution, or at least to know if there's  
nothing to do.


Any hints?

Best

Thanks

-a-


On 31 Mar 2008, at 17:28, Andrea Valle wrote:


Dear all,
I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing  
list).


I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment  
command.

(the one documented here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ 
Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization

)

The actual version is here:
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf

Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
If I use XeConTeXt (-- texexec --xtx) the file is not attached  
(there's the marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that  
there's no attachment).

As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

Any hints?

Thanks

Best

-a-


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(Ken Perlin on noise)





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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-03 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Mojca,




The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support for the
underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.



Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



I googled a bit and found the following slides:
  http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
see page 18 in particular.


thanks, means really nothing to me :-)



In spec-fdf there is:

\definespecial \doattachfile {\doPDFattachfile}

\def\doPDFattachfile#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8%
  {\bgroup % title width height color symbol file
   \edefconvertedargument\PDFfile{#8}%
   % beware: the symbol may (indirectly) use the file
   % reference when typesetting the object number;
   \presetPDFsymbolappearance{#5}{#6}{#2}{#3}{#4}% sets width/height
   \startPDFsymbolappearance
 \doPDFembedfile\PDFfile{#7}{#8}%
 \doPDFgetembeddedfilereference\PDFfile\PDFobjectreference
 \setFDFlayer\@@DriverAttachmentLayer
 \doPDFannotation{\width}{\totalheight}
   {/Subtype /FileAttachment
/FS \PDFobjectreference\space
/Contents (#1)
\PDFsymbol
\FDFlayer
\PDFattributes}%
   \stopPDFsymbolappearance
   \egroup}





Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex.


Can't follow you here. What is spec-dpx?


Best

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

(Annabel Chong)




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Andrea Valle
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. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty

(Ken Perlin on noise)





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Re: [NTG-context] xetex and attachment: troubles

2008-04-03 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Mojca, Hans,

ok, I've understood.

:)

-a-



On 3 Apr 2008, at 12:17, Hans Hagen wrote:


Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Thanks Mojca,

The problem is not the --xtx switch, but the lack of support  
for the

underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.


Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?



I googled a bit and found the following slides:
  http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
see page 18 in particular.


thanks, means really nothing to me :-)


It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)


she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working
xetex on my machine (need to update)

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Re: [NTG-context] placecontent and arranging

2008-04-03 Thread Andrea Valle

This is a FAQ, maybe you could add something to the wiki (I'm sure
it's already there).


Couldn't find it, so I added a note to the Imposition page

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. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book

2008-04-08 Thread Andrea Valle

Impressive

Congrats

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On 8 Apr 2008, at 15:16, Jörg Hagmann wrote:


Dear list members,

My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell füssli as an UTB
book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in
particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the Thank you  
section

of the book as well).

You'll find a few sample pages under:
www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB)

Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages  
illustrate:


p. 7: The use of inmargin text.
p. 79: a vignette, in the margin and partially in the text area.
p. 110: The height of some margin figures  was  large, necessitating
manual adjustments.
p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of  
enumerations,
figures, frames etc. made some  typographical sins inevitable (e.g.  
last

line on this page).
p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled
p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas
p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red
background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition
p. 239: The Toolbox contains framed figures without a legend.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book

2008-04-08 Thread Andrea Valle

Always asked for.
But nobody raise a hand...:-)

I would read it eagerly

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On 8 Apr 2008, at 22:48, Gour wrote:


Henning == Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Henning How about a list of books (or everything else) made with
Henning ConTeXt?

How about to make book about ConTeXt?


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book __ about typesetting, as an art, to print Beautiful books

2008-04-08 Thread Andrea Valle


On 8 Apr 2008, at 23:08, Giulio Bertellini wrote:

Sitting in a Paris restaurant, equipped with WI/FI and after a  
couple of wine glasses.




Giulio, che invidia

(such an envy)

:)

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book

2008-04-09 Thread Andrea Valle

A book is not at all a repository of code or a reference.
It can be foundational, and in that case you'll just keep on reading  
for many years.

(the TeX Book)

A serious update and expansion of the manual would be enough.

Best

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2008/4/9, Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andrea Always asked for.  But nobody raise a hand...:-)
 Andrea I would read it eagerly
 I would even buy it ;)


I wouldn't - I've a shelf full of development books but always only
use online docs. In this area books simply are too slow.

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Re: [NTG-context] a sort of marking

2008-04-09 Thread Andrea Valle

1) Why don't you play with \startTEXpage ?


Because I don't know how does it work



2) Andare a dormire :) ?



Io ci sono andato!

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Re: [NTG-context] a sort of marking

2008-04-09 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Wolfgang



%\setupbackgrounds[page][leftframe=on]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
\setupbackgrounds[leftpage][leftframe=on]




Could you please explain what's going on here?
I cannot understand why \setuppagenumbering is relevant for such a  
behavior


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me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] a sort of marking

2008-04-09 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Wolfgang.

Hmm, your example work.
But it does not if I include it my environment

?

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\startenvironment env_scMaterials
\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[it]
\setupinteraction[state=start]

%\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]

%%%

%% the original format
%\setuppapersize[A5][A5]

%% two pages side by side
%\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]
%\setuparranging[2SIDE]


%% print:
\setuppapersize[A5][A4, landscape]
\setuparranging[2*2]  %% print in A4 double sided, cut pages and bind
%% WHAT I HAVE ADDED
\setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
\setupbackgrounds[leftpage][leftframe=on]
%% end print

\setupcolors[state=start]

%%% Colors %%%

%% SC colors %%
\definecolor [SCwhite] [r=1.0, g=1.0, b=1.0]
\definecolor [SCblack] [r=0.0, g=0.0, b=0.0]
\definecolor [SCblue] [r=0.0, g=0.0, b=0.75]
\definecolor [SCred] [r=0.75, g=0.0, b=0.0]

\definecolor [SCgrey] [r=0.376, g=0.376, b=0.376]
\definecolor [SCgreen] [r=0.0, g=0.45, b=0.0]


%% CIRMA colors %%
\definecolor[cirmaBlue] [r=.0,g=.2,b=.6]
%\definecolor[cirmaGrey] [r=.2,g=.2,b=.2] %lighter follows
\definecolor[cirmaGrey] [r=.3,g=.3,b=.3]
\definecolor[cirmaOrange] [r=1,g=.6,b=.0]
% another grey
\definecolor[bgGrey] [r=.9,g=.9,b=.9]


%%




%% Define the color for bodyfont
\definecolor [fontColor][black]

\setupfootertexts[{\color[cirmaBlue]\tfxx  Andrea Valle \hfill  
tSCIRMA }]

\setuppagenumbering[location=footer, sectionnumber=yes, state=start]

\setupfooter[state=start]


\setuphead[chapter]
[style=\ss\tfc, before={\startframedtext[width=local,  
foregroundcolor=white, background=color, backgroundcolor=cirmaBlue,  
framecolor=cirmaOrange,offset=.25cm,
rulethickness=0.05cm, frame=off, topframe=on,  bottomframe=on]},after= 
{\stopframedtext\blank[.25\textheight]},

]




\setuphead[section][style=\ss\tfb, before={\startframedtext[frame=off] 
\color[cirmaGrey]}, after={\color[cirmaBlue]\textrule\color[fontColor] 
\stopframedtext}]



\setuphead[subsection][style=\ss\tfb,before={\startframedtext 
[frame=off]\color[cirmaGrey]}, after={\color[cirmaOrange]\textrule 
\color[fontColor]\stopframedtext}]



\setupframedtexts[width=local, framecolor=cirmaOrange]

\setuplayout[marking=on, margin=0pt, width=fit]
%[width=fit,
%  rightmargin=1.5cm,
%  leftmargin=1.5cm,
%  leftmargindistance=0pt,
%  rightmargindistance=0pt,
%  height=fit,
%  header=0pt,
%  footer=20pt,
%  topspace=1.5cm,
%  backspace=1.5cm,
%%  cutspace=1.5cm,
%  bottomspace=8pt,
%  location=singlesided]


%\setupfootertexts[{\color[blue]\tfxx  a.a. 2005-06 \hfill Andrea  
Valle \type{[EMAIL PROTECTED]} \hfill \currentdate}]


%\setupfooter[state=stop]

\setupcombinations[distance=5pt]

%\setupframed[frame=on,height=.9\textheight,width=.9\textwidth,top= 
\vss,bottom=\vss,align=right]


%%\setuplabels[]
%\setupcaption[figure][number=no]

\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][rm][Xserif][Palatino]
\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[tSCIRMA][ss][Xsans][Optima]

\setupbodyfont[tSCIRMA, 10pt]

%\setupbodyfont[sansserif]
\setuptyping[color=black] %% redundant?


 Some defs 

\define[1]\Note{\blank{\tt [Lavori in corso:  #1]}\blank}
\define[1]\Code{{\tt #1}}
\define[1]\Line{\startnarrower\tfx\startlines\blank{\tt #1}\blank 
\stoplines\tfa\stopnarrower}

\define[1]\Url{\startnarrower #1 \stopnarrower}
%%
\define[1]\Ex{\tfx \input code/#1 \tfa}
% code folder is where you put the examples
% code must be ascii and result from processing
% .sc files (ASCII, not rtf) in scToConTeXt.py
% usage: \Ex{testSC}
%%




% stolen from wiki

% different colors for frame in code and interpreter

\defineframedtext
  [framedSC]
  [framecolor=cirmaBlue,
   strut=yes,
   offset=2mm,
   width=local,
   align=right]

\definetyping[SC][option=commands,
tab=2,numbering=line,
bodyfont=4pt, %% does not work: ?
before={\startframedSC\tfx},
after={\tfa\stopframedSC}]




\defineframedtext
  [framedcode]
  [framecolor=cirmaOrange,
   strut=yes,
   offset=2mm,
   width=local,
   align=right]

\definetyping[code][numbering=line,
bodyfont=8pt,
before={\startframedcode\tfx},
after={\tfa\stopframedcode}]

\defineenumeration
[Osservazione]
[location=top,
text=Osservazione,
inbetween=\blank,
after=\blank]


\stopenvironment


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Re: [NTG-context] a sort of marking

2008-04-09 Thread Andrea Valle


What setting do you use in your environment, you have many  
different settings

and I don't know which one of them do you use.


The one which is not commented.


Make a minimal example
(no section formatting, no typing ...) and post this with a sample  
text.


ok



BTW: The argument for \startenvironment is space delimited and you  
should better
write \startenvironment env_scMaterials  or make a new line after  
the title

of the environment.


I wasn't aware of it. I thought there was a line break

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Re: [NTG-context] a sort of marking

2008-04-09 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Wolfgang,

it works perfectly

May thanks

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On 9 Apr 2008, at 11:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


What setting do you use in your environment, you have many different
settings
and I don't know which one of them do you use.

The one which is not commented.


I thought you want to arrange the pages with the 2SIDE command  
but what

do you use is 2*2 and the in this case rightpage needs a frame on
the left side.

The setupbackgrounds command is now:

\setupbackgrounds[rightpage][leftframe=on]

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Re: [NTG-context] Architecture Sketch

2008-04-15 Thread Andrea Valle

and yes, i
 only have DP mkvii/mkviii cd's/dvd's;


Oh, Hans, this is a big issue...
I thought that while writing ConTeXt you (the Speed King of TeX,  
indeed) had thought about the motto following -exactly- Speed King:

just a few roots, replanted.

:)

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Re: [NTG-context] metapsot vs. graphviz

2008-04-27 Thread Andrea Valle

If you're on mac,  you can try NodeBox.
http://nodebox.net/code/index.php/Home


HTH

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Hi!

While writing some written assignments I have a need to draw some  
simple

diagrams.

Tried with Dia, but it's not superb. That's why I'm thinking about
learning some graphic programming language...

Anyone familiar with metapost  graphviz can write few words how  
the two

compare?

Any other suggestion?

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[NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

I've briefly presented ConTeXt to the students of my course in Visual  
Identities.
They were all enthusiastic. So they asked me if I can give an  
introductory but real seminar.

At my lab the students are all on macosx 10.4/5.
Now the probem:

All my students comes from humanities, no computer science background  
at all. I cannot ask them to be aware of low level installation aspects.
My ideal would be something like the standard ConTeXt I was working  
with an year ago. One installs MacTeX and can start working.
Now, we need easy font switching. I'm actually using XeTeX. But it  
has been complicated to set it up. I don't think I can have my  
students dig into installations (patch this etc).

Is there any chance to have luatex into the next MacTeX distro?
Any ideas?

Many thanks
Best


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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-10 Thread Andrea Valle

Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right?

Best

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On 10 Jun 2008, at 16:36, Andrea Valle wrote:


Hi to all,

I've briefly presented ConTeXt to the students of my course in  
Visual Identities.
They were all enthusiastic. So they asked me if I can give an  
introductory but real seminar.

At my lab the students are all on macosx 10.4/5.
Now the probem:

All my students comes from humanities, no computer science  
background at all. I cannot ask them to be aware of low level  
installation aspects.
My ideal would be something like the standard ConTeXt I was working  
with an year ago. One installs MacTeX and can start working.
Now, we need easy font switching. I'm actually using XeTeX. But it  
has been complicated to set it up. I don't think I can have my  
students dig into installations (patch this etc).

Is there any chance to have luatex into the next MacTeX distro?
Any ideas?

Many thanks
Best


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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-10 Thread Andrea Valle

(thanks to all)


Oliver (who's comming to the meeting with the same probability as you
are :)


(eh, I'd like to come...)

TeX Live 2008 will include LuaTeX, and so will MacTeX (if they  
create it).


That would be great

Have you ever tried to install minimals (http:// 
minimals.contextgarden.net/)?


No, frankly I am a bit scared of tweaking my actual distro...
More, I think I have some problems with my unix env.
But I'll try.

But: the linked files are mk II? If I want system fonts shouldn't I  
go for luatex?


Thanks

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-10 Thread Andrea Valle
In my experience the font switching issue (complicated for newbies)  
is the only relevant negative feature in ConTeXt.

So, if I have Luatex I can forget xetex?

Best

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On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:37, Hans Hagen wrote:


David wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:15 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:


Andrea Valle wrote:

Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right?

yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR




I would like to set up OSFONTDIR, but I don't know how or where or  
when

to do so. I've tried setting it in my bash profile, and that seems to
have no effect. What is the correct procedure? (I'm on a Mac, if it
matters.)


we can consider setting it up automatically but that can only be done
when it's a stable location

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-11 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi Oliver,


I've already assembled a working ConTeXt package based on the minimals
that installs via the Apple installer. In other words, it will provide
the same seamless installation experience to the user as known from
the MacTeX package and, in fact, as known from any decent Mac  
software.



Fantastic. Exactly what I need. But will you include TeXShop? Will  
the tex file system be local (i.e. separated from the usual locations) ?



That's actually pretty soon.


Yes, of course.

Thanks

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-11 Thread Andrea Valle

Wow, much needed.
Looking forward to see it.

Best

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On 11 Jun 2008, at 18:05, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Hi Oliver,

I've already assembled a working ConTeXt package based on the  
minimals
that installs via the Apple installer. In other words, it will  
provide

the same seamless installation experience to the user as known from
the MacTeX package and, in fact, as known from any decent Mac  
software.


Fantastic. Exactly what I need. But will you include TeXShop?


You can use the existing TeXShop or any other editor. Besides that, in
summer or autumn a new cross-platform editor by Jonathan Kew will be
available.


Will the tex
file system be local (i.e. separated from the usual locations) ?


You will be able to use PreferencePane to select whether you want to
use MacTeX or ConTeXt minimals (and which version), and that will be
done globally. /usr/texbin will be a symlink to binaries.

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-12 Thread Andrea Valle
The fact IMHO is that there's a potentially large base of ConTeXt  
users which are willing to learn the syntax but are scared about  
terminals, setting paths etc
(well, me too: knowing substantially nothing of unix I'm never  
comfortable with unix aspects of my system)

So, an installer is really welcome.

Best

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On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:43, Jesse Alama wrote:


I second Andrea's opinion -- I'm also looking forward to a
straightforward way of updating ConTeXt and kin.  I'm comfortable with

  ctxtools --updatecontext,

but much less comfortable updating binaries and fonts, based on my
experience screwing up my installation; a nice Mac OS X interface to
deal with all these would be great.  How about allowing  
installation of

modules from http://modules.contextgarden.net, too?

(I admit that there's probably a good deal of FUD here on my part and
it's not as complicated as I think it is.  My guess, though, is  
that I'm

not alone.)

Jesse

Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Wow, much needed.
Looking forward to see it.

Best

-a-

On 11 Jun 2008, at 18:05, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

Hi Oliver,

I've already assembled a working ConTeXt package based on  
the minimals
that installs via the Apple installer. In other words, it  
will provide
the same seamless installation experience to the user as  
known from

the MacTeX package and, in fact, as known from any decent Mac
software.

Fantastic. Exactly what I need. But will you include TeXShop?

You can use the existing TeXShop or any other editor. Besides  
that, in
summer or autumn a new cross-platform editor by Jonathan Kew  
will be

available.

Will the tex
file system be local (i.e. separated from the usual  
locations) ?


You will be able to use PreferencePane to select whether you  
want to
use MacTeX or ConTeXt minimals (and which version), and that  
will be

done globally. /usr/texbin will be a symlink to binaries.

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[NTG-context] Fwd: (scientific) poster

2008-06-13 Thread Andrea Valle

(originally bounced)-a-Begin forwarded message:From: Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 13 June 2008 14:59:19 GMT+02:00To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl>Subject: Re: [NTG-context] (scientific) poster  Hi Pau, I have made a couple of posters with ConTeXt.Here they are:http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:AndreaCode attached:

posterVEP.tex
Description: Binary data


posterAlgoNotazione.tex
Description: Binary data
I have to say that for poster stuff where you have to control visually the layout a GUI is not that bad.So now I'm using ConTeXt for text-based projects (documents, books) and Nodebox for visual related things (posters, presentations).Best-a- ___
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: (scientific) poster

2008-06-13 Thread Andrea Valle

Concerning posters (at least that graphic category of posters):

If you have to move a graphic element by hand in search of fine  
tuning (which is optical in design, helas, not computational) the  
only way in batch-processing based sw is to re-compile, many and many  
times.
Such a process can be quite slow if you have a large format with high  
res images. So you pass a considerable part of your time looking and  
the console.

This result in unfavouring fine optical tuning.

So, the problem for me is not the result but the process.

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I have to say that for poster stuff where you have to control
visually the layout a GUI is not that bad.
So now I'm using ConTeXt for text-based projects (documents, books)
and Nodebox for visual related things (posters, presentations).


I am extremely happy using ConTeXt and TikZ/pgf
both for A0 posters as well as for video presentations.

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-13 Thread Andrea Valle


If if you got it installed, you next will need a GUI for running
ConTeXt, and if some problem arises, you are further away from the
solution than ever.
:-(

Sorry, you can't use TeX in a decent way if you can't use a shell (AKA
command line AKA Terminal AKA DOS box).


That's not true.
Installing mactex doesn't require you to use terminal.
It comes with TeXShop. Works out of the box. That was my first  
ConTeXt experience. Positive.
Then I went into some memory problems with MetaPost, then I had to  
modify some sources (thanks to Mojca) to work with XeTeX.
Really a boring experience. Please don't tell me that the tree  
structure of the TeX distro is easy to understand and traverse.




Please everyone try to become computer literate!
(see also works by Friedrich Kittler)


I agree with you. But it depends on what computer literate means.
For me computer science is the science of algorithms (see the  
definition of Schneider and Gersting).
So, I'm interested in a higher level perspective. Otherwise, I could  
start from assembler.
Note also that I'm always teaching computer programming to students  
in humanities. I'm asking them big steps into computer literacy.

But I cannot exaggerate.
I'm teaching them SuperCollider and Nodebox. I'd like to teach  
ConTeXt focusing in computational typography, not into unix file  
system (even if it can be very relevant).
Note also that from the previous posts I still have not exactly  
understood what I have to do to install Luatex (the famous minimals),  
and it seems that many people are confused like me on using system  
fonts.
I'm scared of tweaking my actual XeConTeXt distro because to install  
it has been a pain.


Of course, everyone on the mailing list here is very friendly and  
helpful, but I'd like not to bore you all with install troubles.


Best

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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-14 Thread Andrea Valle


Actually, I strongly disagree with the opinion that the only way to
properly interact with TeX is via the command line.

In fact you gain a lot when trying to
track down a problem ...




Furthermore, in my humble opinion interaction with TeX should
concentrate on programming the actual typesettin


You took the words out of my mouth
:-)

Jokes apart, I think it's evident that there are two approaches to  
deal with a distro/application.
I'm just defending my position, without implying that the other one  
is inferior/negative/etc.


I just want to point out that to have a context distro wrapped into a  
mac app (i.e. autonomous, self-contained)

will make the life easier for many users.  (So, thanks Oliver)
This does not prevent them to have an experimental, on-the-edge version.

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-14 Thread Andrea Valle

What I said is: you can provide all the GUI tools you
want, at some point (and this will be rather sooner than later)
problems will crop up, and these problems will be impossible to
resolve if you don't want to use the command line, don't want to learn
about PATH settings, don't want to learn about where configuration
files go and what they do.


Thomas, I do not know what Oliver is actually doing.
But just 2c:
- suppose you have a ConTeXt distro (the minimal) inside a mac app.  
At the end a mac app is typically a folder containing different  
programs/libraries etc
- suppose you are provided inside the app of an editor (say,   
TeXShop)  already configured to read in the app's folder.


In sum, you have a TeXShop ready to go for the ConTeXt in the app.

Then, you have a context distro working out of the box.
It can be installed easily. You have always worked with Word and you  
want to try to work with ConTeXt? Download, drag and drop, open.
There shouldn't been configuration problems (they have been solved  
while creating the installer).
If there are bugs depending on ConTeXt,  as usual in case of an app,  
the user has to wait for a next release of the app including the new  
ConTeXt version.
(with a bit more expertise, maybe you can simply replace the right  
folder inside the mac app)
This is indeed a limit, but the previous points can be pros for  
another user.



colorful pointy-clicky interface.


Not so much colorful, not so much pointy-clicky.
Just local, self-contained, with an editor.

No?

Best
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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.

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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-15 Thread Andrea Valle



Furthermore let me doubt that a simplified installation it's enough to
persuade new users since ConTeXt requires manuals reading which is
universally considered a waste of time.


Hmm, Diego, that's not the point IMHO.
We have to decouple installation from use. I'm an example of a user  
who will appreciate a simplified installer and will keep reading  
manuals (Matthias seems to agree with me).


It's  an interesting thread, but at the end I'm convinced that,  
simply, we are in a do-cracy. If Oliver has time, he will release an  
installer for mac. Otherwise, Andrea Valle will simply keep complaining.
Obviously, Hans has more important things to do (I'm pretty serious  
here).


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[NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-26 Thread Andrea Valle

Hi to all,

Ok, I'm going for minimals (hurray!)


cd /path/to/some/folder
rsync -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
./first-setup.sh



Perfect.
Under Applications now I have a ConTeXtMinimals folder containg  
relevant stuff (tex+bin folders, a .lua and the .sh file).




Alternatively, you may use

cd /path/to/some/folder
. setuptex


I'd prefer to go with this, locally.
So in terminal I did:
cd /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/ . setuptex

ahem,
- what have I to do now?

andrea:/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals andreavalle$ context
-bash: context: command not found

- If I have understood, context calls luatex, am I right?

- I can call texexec but I'm not sure I'm calling the minimal one.


System fonts on Mac should work by default since a few days ago.


- This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?:

\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond]
\setupbodyfont[Optima]

- How does font selection work under luatex?

- What have I to do to use bibtex?

Many thanks



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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-26 Thread Andrea Valle



and do

. /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex



andrea:~ andreavalle$ . /context/tex/setuptex /Applications/ 
ConTeXtMinimals/tex

-bash: /context/tex/setuptex: No such file or directory

Doesn't work here


 (If you plan to use another TeX installation very
often, the .profile method might not be convenient. For me it works
fine.)


Yes, I'd prefer changing ech time


Many thanks

best

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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-26 Thread Andrea Valle


. /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex



Ah, ok, it's a single line.



If the command works, type

$ echo $TEXMFMAIN

$ which texmfstart
$ which texexec
$ which context


Perfect, all seems to work

Thanks David, Aditya.

So back to the other questions

- This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?:

\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond]
\setupbodyfont[Optima]

- How does font selection work under luatex?

- What have I to do to use bibtex?

Many thanks

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks to all,

Added some stuff here on the things I'm doing.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals

I have to say that I found some reduncy in mac infos (substantially I  
followed Mojca's post)


Obviously, please in case move/change the stuff

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Andrea Valle
Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to  
ensure

what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have
currently :). Now run
$context thesis
This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore  
them.

Then run
$bibtex thesis
This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings  
will

be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
file).



So, it's like latex? Have I to specify that I'm using the bib module?
I mean, this:

\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=semiotiche]

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This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate  
run's in

mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand.



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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Andrea Valle

Many thanks Wolfgang.
The fact is that I'm not understanding what's going on...

Best

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On 27 Jun 2008, at 08:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:


Perfect, all seems to work


Great. If you found certain instructions on the wiki confusing,  
please add

details there.


So back to the other questions

- This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx  
switch?:


\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond]
\setupbodyfont[Optima]

- How does font selection work under luatex?


I don't know font selection in XeTeX, and understand font  
selection in

luatex only marginally, so I'll let someone else answer this.


I never used the short definition for XeTeX but fonts defined with  
the longer
form can be used with XeTeX and LuaTeX, you could use the same  
typescripts.


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV#A_.28Complete. 
29_Typescript_Example
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20080413.111450.d1603396.en.html
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20080609.010650.0b8f9e15.en.html


You can find more threads in the list archive.


- What have I to do to use bibtex?


Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things  
to ensure
what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I  
have

currently :). Now run
   $context thesis
This will create a lot of warnings about missing references,  
ignore them.

Then run
   $bibtex thesis
This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those  
warnings will

be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
file).

This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate  
run's in

mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand.

Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-06-30 Thread Andrea Valle

Ciao Wolfgang,


To access fonts with the name you have to create the database
with the entries:

mtxrun --script font --reload


Thanks, Mojca noticed a bug à propos (if I have understood)

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Re: [NTG-context] fonts (in luatex) (again)

2008-06-30 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks Charles

A praise from the heart to the devs.
Wouldn't be possibile to support font selection like in XeTeX?
This would make thing really a lot easier for sublunar users like me.

Really, the whole process it's damn' complicated: no one a part 2 or  
3 seems to know the details :)


Best

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On 28 Jun 2008, at 19:55, Charles P. Schaum wrote:

This first bit differentiates a backend that refers to your font  
and a

frontend that you normally work with. Why?

Macros, macros, macros. Let's put it this way: You could have a myriad
of styles. That's what many in the WYSIWYG world do. Then ... they  
have

to keep track of them all.

But TeX, as a Turing-complete programming language that could
theoretically be used for lots of things, has the design of local
redefinition, so that sans within a group or a macro can be  
redefined

to something other than delicious without you needing to worry about
keeping track of global style changes.

In short, like the Unix small is beautiful philosophy (and good
programming) you make parts of your document that work, you put the
working parts together, and the whole thing should have a good shot at
working. It will also be remarkably consistent and behave in a manner
that is more regular than, for example, Word's typesetting engine.

And if you are working on a source for different outputs or even
different possibilities of publication, you can switch out a font
without having to muck about through every font reference in your
document, saving hours of labor.


\starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps]
\stoptypescript



As I understand, this next bit maps the expectations of the
typesetting engine to the capabilities of the font. For example, when
working with InDesign/InCopy and importing things from Word, there's a
difference between character style mappings and local overrides.

Word processors usually employ local overrides. That means usually the
typesetting engine picks from the alternative of a font face for bold,
italic, and so on, or it takes the default face and changes its
rasterization to create a faux bold, italic, and so on. In good
typesetting, however, you actually link character styles with actual
fonts, just like you would when hand-compositing blocks of type in a
typecase with lots of clamps and so on.

This bit looks like what character styles do in InDesign. The more  
I get

into InDesign and work with my designers, the more I understand the
basic typographical principles that make TeX and ConTeXt elegant.


\starttypescript [sans] [delicious]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic]
[name:Delicious-BoldItalic] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript




The following is not in the Ubuntu-distributed manual, so I am not  
sure

about it.


\starttypescript [delicious]
\definetypeface [delicious] [ss] [sans] [delicious] [default]
\stoptypescript





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Re: [NTG-context] how to comment several lines at once ?

2008-07-02 Thread Andrea Valle
AFAIK it is not possible direclty. I've asked it once. Should be in  
archive


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On 2 Jul 2008, at 15:05, Alan Stone wrote:


Hi,

Guess this is (Plain) TeX stuff - haven't found the answer...

How do you comment several lines at once, instead of prefixing each  
line with the % sign ?


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