Re: IIS Question
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Daniele Bartoli danielebart...@gmail.com wrote: Got an IIS question that I am hoping someone can help with. boo-bee-BEEP We're sorry, the list you have posted to is no longer in service. The new address is: nysys...@lists.myitforum.com Please close this message, and try your post again. This is a recording. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: IIS Question
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Why'd you change the subject line? I didn't, OP apparently posted the same message body twice with two different subject lines. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: IIS Question
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: The new address is: nysys...@lists.myitforum.com Shouldn't that have been NTSysAdm? Yes. This thread will now self-destruct. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: The list status
What if they had a list and nobody subscribed? It seems like the membership has moved to the MyITForum.com host in the meantime. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ mailto:comm...@lists.myitforum.com?body=subscribe%20NTSysAdm I don't think anyone here subscribed because of who hosted the list. Rather, people subscribe for who's *on* the list. If the community has moved, then that's where the list is now, for all practical purposes. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Sandy san...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hello Everyone! My name is Sandy Vandebult and I was a long Sunbelter and currently work with Stu at his new company Knowbe4. GoodNews!! GFI has given the list over to Stu and the list will live on! We are looking at moving the list over to Google groups but I am open to any suggestions if anybody knows of a better way to go. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: The list?
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: ... he isn’t aware we are freaking out. Freaking out? Hardly. More like what happens in the classroom when the teacher steps out for a moment… Except when the teacher steps back in, usually the class is still there. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: In a sense we had ~500 because each Banyan server was a separate entity from a mail perspective that had to be dealt with individually. The project name had a fancy acronym but Ed just called it the Darwin project. Millennium Year Application Software System? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob Free wrote: I had to work with one of the Ed’s, (Crowley) when he used to work here and we migrated to win95/Exchange/NT from win31/Vines. Going old school now .. you must have had some SNADS and PROFS ? I bet they had SCMODS too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post anything they hear? Until something better comes along, I offer this: https://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/ntsysadmin I'll also update that after something better comes along. This is intended to be a quick response, not a good one. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Cool. Thanks, Rod! Suggestion: Rename from NTSysADM to NTSysADMIN. If we keep the list names exactly the same, then Bingle searches for NTSYSADMIN will find both sets of archives. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net wrote: I know I have approx. 12 years of posts in a few public folders and .pst files. I could have a go at uploading stuff? Several years back I subscribed NTSYSADMIN and ExchangeList to http://www.mail-archive.com/. Partly because Friggin' Lyris is bad at archives, too, but also in case the list ever died. If you wanted to, you could find the oldest message there, and then inject anything you have that's older into that archive. You would need to submit the messages to arch...@mail-archive.com with their original headers (or an approximation thereof -- it will need at least the To/From/Subject/Message-ID headers, I'm sure). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: Just FYI, but there *is* a Portable version of windirstat too ( I use it on client's systems specifically because it doesn't need to be installed From PortableApps.com? Or somewhere else? Same binary. http://www.mail-archive.com/ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com/msg120093.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Question – we’ve had both Rod and Ben offer to host, and both have given links. Correction: All I did was throw up a web page for people to check in case the existing list server suddenly went offline. Do those wishing to continue a mail-based (rather than web-based) forum go with Rod’s? Is that what the agreement seems to be? I interpreted one of Rod's statements to mean his system can provide both a web interface and an email interface to the same forum, so I think we may have the best of both worlds. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:10 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. ... I keep getting error messages each time I click on the second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. 1. Compose a new email 2. Send to: comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Leave subject line blank 4. In the message body, put: subscribe NTSysADM 5. Send That will skip the web site entirely. I'm using Windows Live as my email client, and Anybody have any ideas? I have the idea that you should get a better email system. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Bad symbolic link in registry
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I have a symlink in the registry of a 08r2 server that I can not remove which is preventing the installation of an app. If i recreate the target I can access it, but still can not delete it. Anyone a tool to remove such a stubborn problem? FORMAT C: -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Richard Sobey r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: RS I was also taught to delete everything not immediately relevant to your reply. RS RS Ah well. I'm a fan of bottom posting - back in the NNTP days. Using Outlook RS makes it very hard :( I've never really understood that objection. People talk about the position the cursor starts in as if it's some insurmountable barrier. Some composers start the cursor at the top of the edit buffer. Others start it at the bottom. They're otherwise identical. Doesn't seem like a big difference to me. :-) One thing I miss from my Fidonet days is the convention of prefixing people's initials to the quoted text leader (done above manually, for illustration). Made it easier to follow a complicated, nested conversation. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Disk space management software
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: I use Spacemonger 1.4, the last free version. Prefer it to WinDirStat as it is a standalone executable which doesn't have to be installed. WinDirStat is basically a stand-alone executable. They distribute it as an installer but if you unpack it with 7-Zip it runs just fine. Or just install it once and then copy the binary out. I just have a copy of WinDirStat.EXE in our network miscellaneous utilities folder and run it from there. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Startup processes
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:11 AM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: On a Windows system, is there a process that runs on startup that will only run if there is network connectivity present? I've got a strange requirement and I need to be able to tell when the network is available, if possible. Define network connectivity. Layer two link up? Has an IP address? Has a default route? Can ping the default gateway? Can reach an arbitrary host on the Internet? Can do lookups against the Active Directory Domain Controller? Can ping your AppSense server? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Startup processes
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd think that it would be the ability to copy files and folders from a remote location that would be the definition required in this case. You could do an IF EXIST \\server\share\path\file.txt ... (or the moral equivalent in your scripting language of choice) then. Make sure that script is asynchronous from the rest of computer startup, or the startup will hang waiting for a while if the network isn't up. If you want to loop/retry, suggest using a SLEEP call (or equivalent) to suspend the process for a minute or three. That's a lot less rude than spinning in a loop, and a lot less kludgy than ping'ing an invalid address. Basically I have a lot of clients who insist on using the Computer Startup trigger to do things (like copy files and folders to the endpoint). Consider using standard Group Policy for that. GP scripts/preferences don't run if the network isn't working (which, in this case, I think means, Can files be read from SYSVOL on a DC?). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. The list is dead! Long live the list! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's a Ben9K thing. He doesn't believe in top posting. That wasn't me Rod was replying to. Good luck blaming that on posting styles. :) On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: LoJack
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Art DeKneef art.dekn...@cox.net wrote: You need the BIOS set to Activated and the software application agent installed on the computer for it to fully work. The software agent is what communicates with the recovery center. The BIOS piece maintains its presence even through reinstalls or different hard drives. So what if I wipe the hard drive and install a different OS? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: LoJack
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:53 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think the BIOS piece, if Activated, puts the agent back onto it. Yah, that's scary enough. I mean, sure, if someone else can control the hardware, in theory they can do anything, but think about the implications. Is there some kind of hook in Windows that lets the BIOS run arbitrary code? If so, that's kind of spooky. Or are they using a higher privilege level to inject code directly into the kernel? If so, what happens when a kernel update comes out? Or does it depend on the PC vendor's special Windows disc? In which case, it's easily defeated by using generic media. How this works cross-platform is beyond me though I went there first because it's an extreme case. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: LoJack
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Art DeKneef art.dekn...@cox.net wrote: Excellent question. And I don't have a good answer. LoJack supports Windows 2000 up to Windows 8 and Mac OS 10.3 or higher. But nothing for Linux. So I guess the question is what do you mean by a different OS. I'm curious what mechanism they're using to modify the OS. I went to Linux just because support is inconsistent so it makes a good example. I'm sure it is something they thought about. You have far more faith in technology companies than I do. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: LoJack
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: Yah, that's scary enough. I mean, sure, if someone else can control the hardware, in theory they can do anything, but think about the implications. Is there some kind of hook in Windows that lets the BIOS run arbitrary code? My guess is that the software re-installs itself pre-boot That's the assertion. My question is, what does the software do to re-install itself pre-boot? The BIOS is not magic. The BIOS is a chunk of software stored in ROM that the processor starts executing at power on or reset. Before it hands over control to the MBR, it can do anything it wants, but it has to actually do it. There's no install Windows software BIOS interrupt. While I suppose it could have an NTFS implementation, a registry implementation, plus whatever other code is needed to install something in to Windows, that strikes me as being halfway to just having Windows in the BIOS. I would expect it would be a lot easier to simply use something like System Management Mode to preempt the OS and then borrow the wifi (after sniffing the IP address the OS is using), but the theory seems to be that the communication is handled by an agent running on the OS. (much like CHKDSK /F can be made to run before Windows loads). CHKDSK runs after the Windows kernel is running, boot start drivers are loaded, the filesystems are mounted, and the registry is opened. There's a registry key that tells the Windows startup code to invoke a program called AUTOCHK.EXE, which fires off CHKDSK if needed. This doesn't lead to anything of particular help for the above. I'm pretty sure you know this already. :) http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/researchers-find-insecure-bios-rootkit-pre-loaded-in-laptops/3828 Yah, as usual, the press gives so little information as to be useless. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Color me skeptical
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really interested to see if this is the paradigm shift that Google thinks it's going to be. Has Google actually been right about *any* paradigm shifts? (Ponders Buzz and GoogleWave...) They hit paydirt with search, don't sort and sell user data/advertising to others, not services to users. And they definitely revolutionized web search -- before Google, it was all about making the query as smart as possible. Google made the index smarter. But good point. They've had some notable strike outs, too. They seem to do better with general strategies than specific products. But then, they missed the boat on social media, too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Color me skeptical
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: They hit paydirt with search, don't sort and sell user data/advertising to others, not services to users. But that wasn't a paradigm shift Seems like it is mostly a discussion about what constitutes a paradigm shift, then, because I generally agree with the rest of your analysis. :-) Some of it's quite apt -- especially the bit about big companies floundering once their core competency market is saturated and they're forced to branch out. A couple small additions: Microsoft's advantage was actually APIs upon which rich ecosystems could be built by 3rd parties and enterprises. ... they lost their dominance in mobile by not understanding what their strengths really were Microsoft's big mistake in the mobile market was making something that wasn't compatible with their existing stuff. So when Apple came along with a more compelling product, there was no reason not to jump ship. It wasn't so much that the API wasn't good enough (although maybe that was a problem, too) but that it was *different*. The same will happen with Win 8, I suspect. They think that putting Windows Apps on desktop and mobile will mean tons of adoption of the new Windows Apps platform. I suspect it will actually mean a white elephant on the desktop. I don't think they have any other choice, though. Google is a search company that sells data derived, in part, from search. All these other forays into different technologies are just distracting them. Largely agree, but they've had some success with GMail and GApps. Of course, even there, a big part of GMail's success was the search function. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Cross post on latest round of Java Bugs from Bugtraq
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote: Today, a vulnerability report with an accompanying Proof of Concept code was sent to Oracle notifying the company of a new security weakness affecting Java SE 7 software. Can we just get an announcement when there *isn't* a Java hole? I think we'd cut down on mail... -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: On the subject of security...
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Not that they're equivalent in power, but that each kind of account can do and has access is different and equally valuable. For the typical home user, which is what that comic is focused on[1], not so much. Root/Administrator is valuable because it can subvert the protections on, or directly access, the data that end-user accounts have, and end-user accounts because that's the actual money/IP resides. And for a home PC *THERE IS ONLY ONE USER*. [1] Note what's in the bubbles around the edges. Yes, I noted the bubbles. But a), even for home users, while there might be only one user, there should be *at least* n+1 users, where n is the number of individuals who actually use the machine, plus an administrator account ... You're still steadfastly refusing to go near the point. But, the multi-user at home question is a valid one, and involves a previously unstated assumption on both your part and mine. I've been assuming dedicated personal hardware, because I know Randall has no children, is unmarried, and referred to his laptop, which is a dedicated personal machine. So, my assumption is n=1. With that in mind: Your statement about how an admin account can access the data of other user accounts goes directly to the heart of the problem Munroe is describing: The only other user account is Randall's. The only data is the data in Randall's user account. This doesn't make the admin account worthless, because breaking into the admin account would enable breaking into Randall's user account. But it does mean breaking into the one is roughly equivalent to breaking into the other, in either direction. A lot of people/security design treats the admin account a uniquely high-value asset, even in this scenario, which is a fallacy. And this scenario may well be the most common scenario, although I lack the data to make that determination. ... given all of those bubbles, the end user is in a threat-rich environment, so must exercise the vigilance techniques I and others have described/prescribed, if they care about their data, privacy and finances. True but unremarkable. Specifically: Not anything have to do with the comic. You keep launching into this list of unrelated techniques like it has anything to do with the discussion. I could talk about DoD personnel security requirements, but it wouldn't be particularly pertinent. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Synchronize booksmarks?
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:22 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: If the Bookmarks folder in Firefox works the same way as Favourites in IE, I don't see why you couldn't redirect them both and then do some scripting to synchronize the folders at logoff. Firefox stores bookmarks in a database file (places.sqlite) that's not compatible with MSIE. (Before the current architecture, it used a single HTML file, bookmarks.html, also not compatible with MSIE.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Synchronize booksmarks?
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Based on previous experience I prompted removed it and therefore found the issue with Outlook. Since then several others here have done the same and had the same issue. The uninstall should be cleaner than it is. This is a problem with the way Windows handles default browser. Whenever the default browser is uninstalled, the file associations and scheme handlers gets all horked up. It's not specific to Chrome; any browser will cause this. Thank Microsoft for trying to cram MSIE down everyone's throat in the 90s; we're still paying for that decision. Which is not to say that bundling unrelated products isn't evil, too. If the Adobe/Google thing you describe hadn't bundled Chrome that way, you wouldn't have had to deal with this in the first place. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: On the subject of security...
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Protecting root access in a system does have some value when it comes to persistence of malware. Malware that is confined to userland is easier to detect and uproot than malware that makes it to a deeper level. There is certainly some value to the admin account, even on a single-user dedicated device. I certainly don't advocate ignoring that. :-) I think that the bigger problem is that most people don't realize the importance and criticality of their data until it is lost... No argument there. For that matter: s/their data/anything/ -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Shane Mullins tsmulli...@gmail.com wrote: Since you mentioned using a PC based router, OpenBSD has supported failover for at least eight years. Performance is great and their security is top notch. OpenBSD uses pf as a firewall. Pf is much easier to use, for me, than iptables. FYI, Linux *can* do this too, but if I didn't have experience with either, I'd go with OpenBSD/pf, too. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT - Google Apps down?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble signing into my Google Apps domain. Logging into Gmail is/was erratic for me this morning. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Endpoint backups
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: Excellent point. We don’t do roaming profiles here. I view them as evil as Outlook cached mode, perhaps more so. J I love roaming profiles. Sure beats backing up workstations. Of course, I also drop the hammer pretty heavily on people who abuse things. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dual Wan Soho High Speed Router Suggestions
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Beach Computers Web Hosting gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Ideally $150 tops. That narrows the field considerably. Have you tried going to the local Wal-Mart and seeing what's on the shelves? I don't mind using a PC as I have so many laying around, but whatever I end up with would ideally be a little idiot proof as I'm no linux guru. :) You can trade expertise for money; getting both free is tough. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: On the subject of security...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:59 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: ...today's XKCD sums it up nicely http://xkcd.com/1200/ So, yeah, that's true if you don't use full disk encryption, or a password on your computer/domain account ... You're missing the point. A lot of devs and admins fall into the trap of protecting the system and forgetting that there's a reason why we have the system in the first place. I ultimately don't care about my root account. Protecting it is just a means to an end -- protecting my data, most of which lives in my user account. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: On the subject of security...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://xkcd.com/1200/ So, yeah, that's true if you don't use full disk encryption, or a You're missing the point. No, I'm not missing the point. Well, then, you're apparently choosing not to discuss it, then. For an email conversation, they're equivalent. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: On the subject of security...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: IOW: Security is for the MANAGEMENT of risk and MITIGATION of same. For real world systems, and usage of them, there is no such thing as perfect security. That's true, too, but the point Munroe is trying to make is that a lot of people lose track of the forest for the trees. They get so caught up in protecting the computer that they forget why they're protecting it. On my home PC, most of the the software I use is free and unremarkable. I could rebuild the software configuration from scratch in a matter of hours. Why do I care about protecting *that*? I don't. I want to protect my photos, files, bank account, Facebook account, etc., etc. All of which are tied into my user account and who-knows-how-many third-party web sites. They don't much care about my admin account. But a lot of computer security people focus on protecting the system privileged account. For example, I've gotten into strong arguments with *nix weenies about how protecting the root account is the most important thing on a system, and that's the fundamental flaw in Microsoft Windows, or some such thing. They don't get that the data in my user account is a lot more valuable than the software install. They don't get that a worm can propagate from my user account just as easily. And as I'm the only user of my home PC, I'm not even protecting other users from me. Yah, I protect the root account, but only as a means to helping protect the stuff I care about. I've had the exact same discussion about Windows and UAC. On this forum, in fact. If UAC works perfectly, it successfully protects an admin account on a throw-away home PC with one user. Meanwhile, the malware is quite content to delete/steal all the user's data from userland, and then propagate to other PCs, again from userland. It's mildly useful in helping prevent a reinstall of a bunch of software, but that's not the high value asset. (Protecting system access is rather more relevant in business, where you've got more than one level of privilege.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Can you do this with .CMD?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:23 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Use a batch file to launch an application and then send two carriage returns to this app? Well, maybe. The app runs but sits and waits for the password, so it’s only processesing the first CR. And let me guess, the password doesn't echo, or maybe shows stars or dots or something, normally? My guess is the app isn't using the standard input/output routines for the password, so redirecting stdin like that doesn't matter for password entry. Otherwise, your current code should work. (Assuming when you say Answerfile.txt contains carriage return, you actually mean a CR+LF, which is what Microsoft uses.) If this is indeed the problem, you'll need something more sophisticated to fake the keystrokes. Back in the old days of DOS, there was a utility called KEYFAKE.EXE that would do that, but I don't expect it would work under 'doze. Maybe something like AutoIt3? Please, no PoSh because I have tons of XP machines that need to run this… If my guess is correct, PoSh will have the same problem. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Can you do this with .CMD?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Daniel Rodriguez drod...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of doing a carriage return put a ^M at the end of your batch file. ^M is just a human-readable representation a carriage return, used by some software to display something that's normally not printable. Typing the actual characters (caret, letter M) don't do anything special in batch files. Or in most other places. --- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Can you do this with .CMD?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Please, no PoSh because I have tons of XP machines that need to run this... If my guess is correct, PoSh will have the same problem. PowerShell would allow you to use Win32 to fake input, to use WPF to fake input, and Windows Forms to fake input. But would still have the same problem trying to redirect stdin. Admittedly, I didn't explain that very well. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: On the subject of security...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: My point is that you have to use the same methods to protect unprivileged accounts as you do root/administrator. True and unremarkable. There, I did it, too. See how that fails to contribute to the discussion? Not that they're equivalent in power, but that each kind of account can do and has access is different and equally valuable. For the typical home user, which is what that comic is focused on[1], not so much. Root/Administrator is valuable because it can subvert the protections on, or directly access, the data that end-user accounts have, and end-user accounts because that's the actual money/IP resides. And for a home PC *THERE IS ONLY ONE USER*. -- Ben [1] Note what's in the bubbles around the edges. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:05 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
for /f tokens=2 delims== %%a in ('CTXCliOS.exe ^| find ClientOS') do set
ClientOS=%%a call :SET
goto :eof
:SET
reg add HKCU\Software\Custom /v ClientOS /t REG_SZ /d %ClientOS% /f
goto :eof
What I'm wondering is what format do I use to convert this to PowerShell
(which will avoid having to invoke a separate command script file)?
Only work will convert a script to another language. :)
What's the command to call an outside executable
Nominally, just write out the command on a line, same as a batch
file or *nix shell script. However, if the external executable needs
to be quoted (e.g., file name or path contains spaces), you need to
prefix the command line with an ampersand (). Otherwise PowerShell
treats it as a string. Kind of a wart on what's generally a much
cleaner language. You can always specify if you want.
I believe you want something like:
$match = CTXCliOS.exe | Select-String -Pattern 'ClientOS\s+(.+)'
if($match) {
$clientOS = then a miracle occurs
Set-ItemProperty -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Custom' -Name ClientOS -Value
$clientOS
}
I'm having trouble figuring out how to get the regexp capture out of
the $match object returned by Select-String though. Get-Member leads
me to believe I should be able to do something with
$match.Matches[0].Groups
but it seems to descend into some kind of recursive nightmare at that
point that makes me believe I'm missing something more fundamental.
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Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm having trouble figuring out how to get the regexp capture out of
the $match object returned by Select-String though.
Ah, okay, this seems to work:
$match = CTXCliOS.exe | Select-String -Pattern 'ClientOS\s+(.+)'
if($match) {
$clientOS = $match.Matches[0].Groups[1].Value
Set-ItemProperty -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Custom' -Name ClientOS
-Value $clientOS
}
You'll want to test that. :) In particular, I expect it will fail
miserably if the Custom subkey doesn't exist yet.
For reasons I don't understand, $match.Matches[0].Groups[0] appears
to be a reference to itself.
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Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
I've managed to use Select-String to get my output and my variable, it's
splitting the variable up (from something like ClientOS=ThinOS_Wyse down to
just ThinOS_Wyse) that's frying my brain now.
Ah, I ass-umed the separator was whitespace. My bad. Try this:
$match = CTXCliOS.exe | Select-String -Pattern 'ClientOS=(.+)'
if($match) {
$clientOS = $match.Matches[0].Groups[1].Value
Set-ItemProperty -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Custom' -Name ClientOS -Value
$clientOS
}
Same caveats as before apply. :)
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Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: This should help. “msg” is just a function that logs all of its arguments to a text file. Hey... this is kind of a threadjack, but your sample code here makes me think of it. In a PoSh script I'm evolving, I'm using functions to manage program flow. Some of these functions return values, which are captured into variables by the caller. But these functions also want to inform the user of what's going on. *And*, I'd also like to be able to optionally redirect the output of the script as a whole, externally. Is there a good way to do this? Write-Output writes to the main Powershell object pipeline, which for functions, *is* the return value. My in-band return value and my out-of-band messages would get mixed together. Write-Host writes to the console, but cannot be redirected. Start-Transcript doesn't capture the output of external commands, which makes it useless if you use such commands (and this script does). Write-Verbose puts ugly VERBOSE: prefixes in front of everything, and turns it all yellow. (And cannot be redirected in PoSh ver 2. I can upgrade -- was thinking of doing so anyway -- but I haven't got that far yet.) It's not real important to me right now, but I suspect it will be some day, and this seemed like a good time to ask. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Some of these functions return values, which are captured into variables by the caller. But these functions also want to inform the user of what's going on. *And*, I'd also like to be able to optionally redirect the output of the script as a whole, externally. ...and that is exactly why I have a 'msg' function (and I always had one in vbscript, too). It provides a single point of control for output generation. I kind of suspected that was going to be the answer. Indeed, when you mentioned what msg did, that's what made me think of my script -- which has a LogMsg function that serves much the same purpose. But I was wondering if I missed something. Thanks again for all your help, PoSh and otherwise! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:57 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Ben, you're a wizard, that worked first time out :-) I am but a humble student. Indeed, I'm getting my feet wet with PoSh for real use for the first time these past few weeks. Part of the reason I did this was to learn how to do it. I had to learn Select-String last week, but didn't know how to retrieve captured groups yet, nor how to write to the registry. So we both learned some things! It helps that I had the web at my end of the thread. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell noob help
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Candee can...@gmail.com wrote: Everything works, except the employeenumber ... ... Any ideas to get the employeenumber to export? I was waiting for someone with a clue to reply, but perhaps they're all busy today. :-) So... Not knowing what I'm doing, I'd start by examining what employeenumber is. So, right before you do this: $createdusers|select displayname,name,email,employeenumber |export-csv C:\temp\scripts\tryagain.csv add some code like: $foo = $createdusers[0] | select employeenumber echo foo=$foo $foo | get-members exit If $foo prints all the right info, then the problem is how export-csv is interpreting $foo. But if $foo prints nothing or some other weirdness, then the problem is with how you're trying to get $foo out of $createdusers. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: BSOD patch, Microsoft urges removal.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Plus they pulled it and re-issued a fixed patch. If you already installed the broken patch, will the patched patch install to patch it? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Sorry. I may be an a$$hole, but I have always preferred to give people clues than to give them direct answers. No apologies necessary. I'm a fan of the teach a man to fish approach myself. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: but I can't figure out how to tell it one parameter *depends* on another. Create your parameter set, then set the few that depend on each other to be mandatory? I guess the below somehow wasn't clear enough, as you're the second person to suggest this. :-) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: If I specify either parameter (or both) as Mandatory=$true, it becomes mandatory *always*, not just when -mailTo is present. So, if I do this [Parameter(Mandatory=$false,ParameterSetName='mailTo')] [string] $mailTo, [Parameter(Mandatory=$true,ParameterSetName='mailTo')] [string] $smtpHost, then -smtpHost becomes mandatory *all* the time, even if I don't specify -mailTo. And I don't need an SMTP host if I'm not sending mail, so that's wrong. Conversely, if I do this [Parameter(Mandatory=$true,ParameterSetName='mailTo')] [string] $mailTo, [Parameter(Mandatory=$false,ParameterSetName='mailTo')] [string] $smtpHost, then -mailTo becomes mandatory (which I don't want) *and* -smtpHost *isn't* mandatory, ever. If I set them both mandatory, they're both always mandatory. And if I put them in the same parameter set, but don't make either mandatory, neither is considered mandatory, ever. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Jeff Bunting bunting.j...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need sets that aren't disjoint, something like I didn't think of that. Good idea. But, I just tried it, and that doesn't work either. :( I'm guessing it makes the base parameter set ambiguous, as it overlaps exactly with the mailTo parameter set. So, if I don't specify -mailTo, PowerShell pukes trying to figure out which parameter set I want: C:\Users\BSCOTT\Desktop\param_test.ps1 : Parameter set cannot be resolved using the specified named parameters. At line:1 char:17 + .\param_test.ps1 -include c:\ -backupTo z:\ -logdir d:\logs + CategoryInfo : InvalidArgument: (:) [param_test.ps1], ParameterBindingException + FullyQualifiedErrorId : AmbiguousParameterSet,param_test.ps1 It does do the Right Thing when -mailTo is specified, though: -smtpHost becomes mandatory. So closer in one direction, but broke something else, as is so often the case. I suppose I could add a parameter -noMail and put it in just the base parameter set, but I find that even uglier than testing smtpHost explicitly. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Jeff Bunting bunting.j...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need sets that aren't disjoint, something like ... makes the base parameter set ambiguous, as it overlaps exactly with the mailTo parameter set. So, if I don't specify -mailTo, PowerShell pukes trying to figure out which parameter set I want ... You could try adding a Position=X to the parameters to deal with the ambiguity; might have to move $eject elsewhere in the parameter order though. So... select the parameter set based on the order in which the parameters are given? Ewww. :-) I like that less than the -noMail idea. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: What you are missing is the DefaultParameterSetName. Ahhh... that did it! Thanks for the clue! Finished code, for those so interested: http://pastebin.com/dQbDDqKN It even treats -mailTo as optional when -smtpHost is present (a valid, albeit useless, scenario). RTFM. :) Payette, Second Edition, section 8.2. My copy of Payette is at work on my desk, and was open during this exercise. This is one of those It's easy to find, if you know the answer situations. :-) Thanks again! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: That is old! Bet people were “Vampire-tapping” back then…or maybe it was 4-wire phone cable. We had a show-and-tell day at our local LUG (Linux User Group) once. I brought in a vampire tap I still keep around for such purposes, thinking I'd have the oldest thing there. So of course Jon maddog Hall decides that's the meeting he'll come to, and shows up with core memory out of a PDP-1... -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You do this with parametersets. Caught you skimming. :) See original message below. :) I've tried using parameter sets, and even posted code declaring the parameter set, but I can't get it to do what I want. If can tell PowerShell that one parameter is related to another, but I can't figure out how to tell it one parameter *depends* on another. If that isn't enough of a hint, let me know; and I'll send you some examples. Please. I welcome hints, example code, pointers to FMs to R, sharp strikes with a clue-bat, and/or friendly insults. :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PowerShell - Dependent parameters Hey all, Is it possible to tell PowerShell that a parameter should be considered mandatory *if and only if* another parameter is present? Scenario: I've got a script that can optionally send email (Zawinski's Law). If the -mailTo parameter is specified, it sends mail. If that parameter is specified, the -smtpHost parameter also needs to be specified. So -smtpHost should be considered mandatory, but *only* if -mailTo is specified. Otherwise, -smtpHost does not need to be present (and, indeed, is pointless). I figure this should employ Parameter Sets somehow, but I can't get it to DWIM. Simply specifying the two parameters as having the same parameter set doesn't make the one mandatory. If I specify either parameter (or both) as Mandatory=$true, it becomes mandatory *always*, not just when -mailTo is present. I could just test smtpHost explicitly, and abort the script if it's not set, but the PowerShell mindset seems to be that parameters should be described, and then the runtime does all that for you. Maybe it just can't do this. Currently using PowerShell 2.0, on Win 7 and 2008 R2. Here's my Param block, if it helps: [CmdletBinding()] Param( # things to back up [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)] [string] $include, # disk or network path to backup to [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)] [string] $backupTo, # directory to put log files in [Parameter(Mandatory=$true)] [string] $logDir, # email address to mail report to [Parameter(Mandatory=$false,ParameterSetName='mailTo')] [string] $mailTo, # SMTP host used to send email [Parameter(Mandatory=$false,ParameterSetName='mailTo')] [string] $smtpHost, # option, eject media when done [Parameter()] [switch] $eject = $false, ) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PowerShell - Dependent parameters
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: If can tell PowerShell that one parameter is related to another, but I can't figure out how to tell it one parameter *depends* on another. Correction: First line above should begin with I can tell PowerShell . I blame the cold I have. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor. It must still be in Beta. Wait another few years. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote: That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how much data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things. True. I'm trying to backup ~4TB in under 12 hours. 8 hours would be nice... I think a single 1Gig Cat5 cable is going to get me around 23 hours at around 850Mbps This is where the other things come into play. If the change-delta, de-dupe, compression, and other magic happens on the agent side of the backup, you may see significant gains. For example, if you're backing up a bunch of small files, and churn is low, and the backup solution uses the maintain a full mirror of original model, and it only copies the changed files, your nightly backup might only need to ship a tiny amount of data over the wire. Or if they're large files but it has good change-delta handling. Even without such magic, you may also be able to do a longer full backup on weekends, then an incremental/differential on weeknights. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Google Drive
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor. It's odd: Microsoft is producing fewer and fewer service packs over the years. No, they're not. If anything, they're producing more. They're just calling them Cumulative Updates and Update Rollups and Feature Packs and other names now. The party line is that one kind of package is for just fixes and the other is more for new functionality, but they have said that in the past about Service Packs, too (and also said the opposite, and changed their minds, multiple times), and the supposedly smaller updates still include major changes (e.g., you need a CU for Exchange '10 to work with Exchange '13, which is kind of a big deal), so as far as I can tell, nothing's changed. It's a standard technique for big companies: If it doesn't work, give it a new name. If it still doesn't work, the new name wasn't long enough. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:51 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we’ve received infected .ZIP files. Our plan: An email containing any dangerous file is quarantined. That check scans within archives (and archives within archives, and so on). If an archive cannot be scanned (corrupt, too big, too many files, too many nested levels, or encrypted) it is quarantined. Dangerous files include various known file name patterns, as well as anything that matches executable content signatures. We don't look for specific malware signatures. Any executable content is considered malware for email. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to wrap my head around the speed of backup appliances like Data Domain and Exagrid. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the backups are going across Cat5. It seems like they would be really slow for a full backup. That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how much data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things. Gigabit Ethernet can stream 125,000,000 8-bit quantities per second. Framing and protocol overhead rob significantly from that. Let's assume 75% efficiency, just to have a number. That's 93 megabytes per second, or 337 gigabytes in one hour. If you're only backing up a terabyte, that might be just fine. If you're backing up a petabyte, not so much. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: AD Simple LDAP authentication question
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I know that AD supports both Simple and SASL methods for LDAP binds: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223499.aspx What I was surprised is that there doesn't seem to be a way to disable the Simple method. It supports SSL/TLS but does not require it. Is that correct? I don't really know, but I do know that our Windows 2008 R2 domain controllers log the event below once a day. I know what's causing it and haven't cared enough to do something about it. The link takes you to a KB article which tells you how to require *signing*. It talks a lot about simple binds but doesn't explicitly say that requiring signing also causes it to reject simple binds, but seems to imply it pretty strongly. Source: ActiveDirectory_DomainService Event ID: 2886 - The security of this directory server can be significantly enhanced by configuring the server to reject SASL (Negotiate, Kerberos, NTLM, or Digest) LDAP binds that do not request signing (integrity verification) and LDAP simple binds that are performed on a cleartext (non-SSL/TLS-encrypted) connection. Even if no clients are using such binds, configuring the server to reject them will improve the security of this server. Some clients may currently be relying on unsigned SASL binds or LDAP simple binds over a non-SSL/TLS connection, and will stop working if this configuration change is made. To assist in identifying these clients, if such binds occur this directory server will log a summary event once every 24 hours indicating how many such binds occurred. You are encouraged to configure those clients to not use such binds. Once no such events are observed for an extended period, it is recommended that you configure the server to reject such binds. For more details and information on how to make this configuration change to the server, please see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=87923. You can enable additional logging to log an event each time a client makes such a bind, including information on which client made the bind. To do so, please raise the setting for the LDAP Interface Events event logging category to level 2 or higher. -- FWIW, YMMV, HTH, HAND, ATT. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: POSH PtH - this is...
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with MBS that other tools could stand in for PowerShell, but WCE was actually new to me. Well, then, you didn't say that, you seemed focused on PoSh. WCE in particular is new to me, too, but I've certainly read of attacks on the running system to recover credentials before. That's why trusting the computer you're logging into is really important. :) It's good to know there's an easy-to-use tool available, though. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OfficeFileCache
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:05 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I've got some user profiles (well, they're virtualized into an SQL database, but that's a moot point) that are showing some large files with a .FSD extension in \Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Office\14.0\OfficeFileCache. The database is far too large for this many users, so I am wondering ... if I can remove them from being saved into the profile without causing any issues? The Local folder is supposed to be for local-to-the-machine (non-roaming) files anyway; why are you saving stuff under there in the first place? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Hosts that scan your network
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Shane Mullins tsmulli...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys do when hosts scan your network? Some cases are obvious, we had a large US University scanning our network for open http servers. Contacted them and they took care of the issue. Generally speaking, I might block them, but currently I prolly wouldn't even do that. (It matters that we don't have a large public netblock and so can't easily discern a bulk scan from someone mistyping an IP address or something.) The Internet is a public place, and while scanning is often nefarious, it's not against any rules in many cases. I'm certainly not going to bother contacting a network owner when it might not even violate any Terms of Service. It has to be abuse before the abuse desk cares. By analogy: A guy walking along the street looking at houses may be suspicious, but in most Western countries, isn't breaking any laws. If I call the cops they might send a cruiser, but if I make a habit of it they'll just mark me down as a paranoid nuisance. OTOH, if the same source e.g. starts repeatedly trying to brute-force our SSH server, *that* I might do something about. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Malicious software updates
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote: Do you guys apply these updates to your servers, or only the desktops? I try to only apply the benign software updates... though some of the .NET deployments have come close. ;-) If you mean the Malicious Software Removal Tool that comes in via WU every month, we don't deploy that normally. It tends to slow the system to a crawl when it runs, and the stuff it's targeting is generally already caught by our many other anti-malware measures (which also slow the system to a crawl). Of course, now that I've said this, I expect a massive internal worm outbreak any second now... -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Semi OT: Cisco versus Checkpoint Juniper
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Sophos has done really well with their acquisition of Astaro, and their looking to take on the mid-market with their pricing and feature bundles. They've borked themselves when it comes to selling software, though. We were planning on switching to Sophos for traditional anti-virus, but then they restructured their product offerings. Now you can only buy something if you want to buy a bunch of other somethings, and they can't tell you what those somethings do, or why they're any good, and half the questions get answered with, Well, no, our traditional software can't do that, but this virtual appliance we sell does. But their virtual appliances aren't supported under anything but VMware. After weeks of trying desperately to buy something from them, we gave up and are going with Trend. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: How easy is it to crack passwords?
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Ridiculously easy, unless the password is quite long... http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/03/how-i-became-a-password-cracker/ Weak passwords easy to crack, according to a study published in the American Journal of Stuff We Already Knew. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Friday semiOT: funny to me anyway
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: This day, 1995, Intel dropped the big one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos Let's see... Pentium jokes... right... And the Weird Al song, It's all about the Pentiums ... You might want to try that link there. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Friday semiOT: funny to me anyway
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Rene de Haas rene.deh...@gmail.com wrote: Remember getting one with math error in our first Compaq Proliant. Never bothered exchanging it. Most servers -- especially back then -- don't do a lot of floating point. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Friday semiOT: funny to me anyway
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: This day, 1995, Intel dropped the big one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos Let's see... Pentium jokes... right... PENTIUM = Parts Exist Now Though Invariably Undergo Meltdown After the FDIV bug: Q: What do you call that 'Intel Inside' sticker? A: A warning label. Intel, where Quality is job number 0.9993724168! Did you hear about the new 'morning after' contraceptive from Intel? It's called RU-586. It causes the embryo to not divide correctly. And finally, the Pentium theme song (to the tune of Daisy Bell): Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do. Getting hazy, can't divide three into two. My answers, I cannot see 'em; They are stuck in my Pentium. I could be fleet, My answers sweet, With a workable FPU! (All seen around the 'nets (there was more than one, back then) at the time, always unattributed.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Virtualization in small office
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Every VM has identical virtual hardware. Minor caveat: Every VM within the same physical architecture (AMD vs Intel) has the identical virtual hardware. Ohh... good point. I kind of knew that but the ramifications hadn't sunk in. Thanks for the tip! -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Virtualization in small office
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Hank . hgedr...@gmail.com wrote: I deal mostly with SMB. Virtualization is a great fit if you have a number of physical servers. But what about a single server situation? That's pretty much the exact same scenario I was facing a year ago. You may find the thread I started about it useful: http://www.mail-archive.com/ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com/msg106517.html have a couple replacements coming up where there is a single server that is a DC, file and print, runs SQL or some other database for their LOB and thats it. One of the motivations we had for virtualizing was to get away from the everything-on-one-OS-instance design. Microsoft *really* does *not* want to do this. They support it, but only grudgingly, and with a lot of caveats and gotchas. Updates to one thing means everything goes down when you reboot. Some stuff flat-out doesn't work together on the same instance. At the same time, we're a relatively small shop, and modern hardware is cheap. We could afford to buy a bigger box and then run a ton of VMs on it. That means we can now afford to dedicate an OS instance to each major service/function. We even went so far as to buy Data Center edition, solely to get the unlimited VMs license. It also makes disaster recovery a lot easier. Microsoft is *really* sensitive to the hardware you restore it to. Restoring a Windows server to significantly different hardware has always been an uncertain proposition. This eliminates that problem entirely: Every VM has identical virtual hardware. And even with a single physical server, no SAN, etc., migration and upgrades are easier. Moving to new hardware (without changing the software) is trivial. Just copy the VM files on the host. If we outgrow the single box, do the same thing, just for only some of the VMs. If we decide it's time to move to a SAN, we can add that and do the copy to that and we're off and running. So, lots of good reasons to do it. There is some added complexity. And it does enable a small biz to do a lot of things they couldn't do before, which can end up meaning more work for IT. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gateway Controls for Wireless
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Greg Sweers gswe...@acts360.com wrote: Anything out there that will just sit in front of all those devices, hand out DHCP and present a AUP page requiring them to accept before allowing out to the internet. This is called a captive portal, FYI. This is a small application so a couple hundred bucks is about all they will spend. Everything I am finding is is the multiple thousands of dollars. There are *nix packages that will do this for free. NoCat is one of them, and it's available for DD-WRT, so you can even run it on a $50 SOHO router. (Whether that's a good idea or not depends on the scenario.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: apipa scripting?
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: 172.16.0.0/whatever Well, it's 172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255, so it's a block out of a /16 network. 172.16.0.0/12 is what Kurt was looking for. I remember it as Halfway in size between 192.168.0.0/16 and 10.0.0.0/8. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Ironic Kaspersky bug
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Lots of irony. They didn't respond in a timely fashion, or so the story goes. Their computers kept freezing. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: apipa scripting?
I'll add my voice to what everyone else is saying: You want to keep using DHCP. Use DHCP to assign static addresses. It makes so many things so much easier. If you need to renumber your network (and some day, you will), it means you just change the DHCP config. If you change something like a DNS server, that's easy, too. If clients move, updates are easy, if not automatic. Management is centralized. No scripting needed -- no headaches maintaining the scripted config. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote: We are running DHCP now, we are just looking to get rid of it as we change some things around. We're looking to tie addresses together, so that we have static ethernet addresses on the 192.168.0.x range where x = the machine ID and have the static wifi addresses be in the 192.168.1.x range So if I see something on x.x.x.45 I know at a glance that it can only be one computer. It eliminates ambiguity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Normalizing a disk image
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I have still not found anything about booting multiple times before sealing the image. This reminds me of the old Unix superstition, sync three times before shutting down. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Semi-OT: Vsphere shutdown
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: It has now been a bit over 24 hours since I brought the datacenter back online and, so far, everything seems to be running smoothly. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mf56gs6FpZ1raprkq.gif (SFW) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Tim Evans tev...@sparling.com wrote: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsazure/archive/2013/03/01/details-of-the-february-22nd-2013-windows-azure-storage-disruption.aspx I give MSFT credit for doing a good analysis and *publishing it*. A lot of companies just say Sorry, we've fixed it, and we promise it'll never happen again (and this time, we really mean it) over and over. Good on them for that. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: But at the most basic level – it was a human error (as I read it). “Someone” didn’t mark the update package as a critical update. At the most basic level, all errors are human errors. :-) Either someone didn't follow the design, or someone didn't foresee a failure case in the design. Arguably (and I can see this), because the package had 5 weeks before it was required… Prolly a better approach to scheduling is not a raw priority field, but something deadline and dependency based. /captain obvious It also occurs to me that treating the certificates as part of the software build may be a poor choice. I realize that a software install needs something to start with, but that could be a bootstrap element, and from there it could update via other mechanisms. (Think DNS root hints.) But I don't know enough about their architecture to say. It might be their Fabric Controller management architecture is more flexible than that blog post leads me to believe, or there might be other factors involved that I'm not aware. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Details of the February 22nd 2013 Windows Azure Storage Disruption
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: Did you just manage to agree and also imply Sure, they released it but are probably still not telling us what 'really happened? why wouldn't you take this at face value? Because people lie? And big companies lie? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Semi-OT: Vsphere shutdown
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Know who you need to call, in case things (storage, servers, apps, whatever) don’t come back up. You don’t want to be trying to find phone numbers when everything’s going to the dogs. Come to think of it, you way want some independent infrastructure ready in case the main stuff doesn't come back up, so you can at least get an Internet connection up and running to do things like browse knowledge bases. Might be as simple as a small router configured for DHCP and a couple laptops that can operate without checking in with the mothership. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Webster's question is very timely...
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm also looking for an external drive, either USB3 or eSATA - if you had the choice, which would you choose for putting in the laptop case for extra storage? I'd go with eSATA if available. I expect any USB3 drive on the market today is using a USB-to-SATA bridge internally. By eliminating that, you eliminate a point-of-failure, and possibly increase performance as well (even the best logic is going to be slower than a straight wire). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Webster's question is very timely...
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Your warranty should start at time of purchase with receipt for proof. Nope, when I did the RMA request and typed in my serial #, the site told me the warranty had expired. That's the case if you don't have proof of purchase. Still have the receipt? Then it's from date of purchase. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Color me skeptical
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I'm really interested to see if this is the paradigm shift that Google thinks it's going to be. I think if they can really work out the issues, it will be. But I'm not convinced they can at this point. Pervasive/wearable computing is almost guaranteed to take over at some point. The real question is, as you say, can Google do it with what they have *today*? I suppose someone's got to take the first step, though. If they were selling them for $50, I'd certainly give it a shot. I'm not going to fork over a kilobuck for a first-generation product, though. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Badging systems
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: I'm in the market for a new badge system. Don't buy anything from Honeywell/Northern Computing (NetAXS, WIN-PAK, etc.). It's crap and their support stinks. (No prizes for guessing how I know this.) - swipe units must be environmentally hardy: very hot or very cold for exterior units. Some units would be inside freezing or near freezing cooling units. As Glen Johnson says, contactless/proximity cards are the way to go. A lot of systems are built around dumb cards operating at 125 kHz, and the Wiegand data format. The Wiegand format provides 24 bits, of which 8 bits are a fixed facility code. So it's basically a 16-bit card number. There's no authentication, and anyone can order the cards. It's largely a security-by-obscurity technology[1]. Depending on your needs, this may actually be perfectly adequate, as most conventional locks are scary easy to pick, too. But if you want something that will resist determined, equipped attack, look for contactless smart cards[2]. -- Ben [1] If the attacker can't borrow or read a legit card, it's somewhat safer, as it takes a while to go through even 65536 card numbers, and ordering that many cards would be cost prohibitive. But if attackers never did bad things we wouldn't need locks. [2] Much more expensive, though. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Remote control software
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense One bit of malware will put paid to that argument... Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 95. (For real security, they should switch to Banyan Vines and CP/M.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Remote control software
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 95. That's not a bet I'd want to make with my paycheck... I have no problem it. I'll call my bookie and make the bet with your paycheck. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: P2V OEM Windows 2003
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Eric Wittersheim eric.wittersh...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. Have anyone you run P2V a OEM copy of Windows 2003 and then when you run it on the HV server try to activate it with a different license key that is not OEM? Basically we have some old servers on their last legs and I'd like to put them on Windows 2012 Data Center and use my licenses from that. If you've got Data Center edition, you've got a license for unlimited VMs, and that should include downgrade rights. When it beaks about Activation, tell it to do phone and call the number and explain it to the drone at the other end, and they should issue an activation code (after lecturing you about license compliance). -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MS Azure cloud evaporates
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: In large, complex environments, with lots of moving parts, things go wrong. ... Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to making it all work. Well, as has been noted, one mechanism that's been proven to work well is to avoid complexity and seek simplicity. Unfortunately: (1) Most of the IT world is addicted to complexity. We love to build ever-bigger toys. (1)(a) Case in point: Most of these so-called cloud solutions add large amounts of highly-coupled, low-cohesion moving parts. (2) Large orgs are by definition complex, and they don't seem keen on the idea of committing suicide for the greater good. (Also, teenagers these days drive too fast, and need to stay off my lawn.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MS Azure cloud evaporates
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: (2) Large orgs are by definition complex ... There is necessary complexity, and unnecessary complexity. ... Point (2) is the former. If the world wants cheap air travel ... or $250 computers, or aircraft carriers, then that's only going to be provided by large, complex organisations. People want perfection, yesterday, for free. I don't think trying to cater to such irrational desires is a justification for large orgs, although it does explain them. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Backup - Axcient, Dell AppAssure or Unitrends applaince
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM, chipsh...@comcast.net wrote: Any one on the list using any of these three? Looking for feedback on the products listed, off list or on. Thanks. AOL, I mean, me too. :-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: File limitation error:updated
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Chinnery, Paul pa...@mmcwm.com wrote: ... From what the tech said, the problem may exhibit itself when more 300,000 files have been placed. ... I don't understand why it took so long since there are over 1M files there. ... Whenever a software company, specifications document, or similar says something may happen, what they mean is, It will work fine until 5 minutes before your deadline, then a black hole will spontaneously open up in your machine room.. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MS Azure cloud evaporates
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 4:47 AM, sep...@gmail.com wrote: Things happen. I imagine meetings are happening and discussions on how to root this out again are occurring. Sure. But when the same sort of things keep happening, it stops being an accident and becomes negligence. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Books about software
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: You don't. Nothing says you have to talk to a vender or a developer or an engineer about a piece of software to write a book about it. Well, technically speaking, a lot of the license agreements do. For example, the license agreement for Microsoft SQL Server says you can't publish reviews or commentary without Microsoft's permission. I am unsure of the legality of such terms. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Backup to cloud?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: This is where the term “the cloud” becomes murky, in my opinion. If I’m sending data over a private circuit to a 3rd party data center, is that really “the cloud”? If you ask the marketing department, Yes. If you ask the engineering department, No. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Office 2013 retail tied to single PCs
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I just downloaded LibreOffice 4 this morning, and I've been playing with it on various word documents... Thus far, it's very good. The big problem with (Star|Open|Libre)Office has always been scripts (macros). Their object model isn't source compatible with VBA, by design. Open source software will never replace proprietary software. Proprietary software is unlikely to replace Free/Open Source Software, either. They've both been around for a looong time, and co-exist. I've wondered about a mix of Lib O and MS O. A lot of our users can barely type complete sentences, they wouldn't notice the difference. It's the IT management overhead, and confusion if someone else uses their machine, that's stopping me. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
