RE: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread Will Raup
I have a different theory.
I bet the increase in Caracaras on the East Coast/Northeast are more from Texas 
and the Southwest, perhaps displaced by long term drought in that region.  On 
the other hand, NY has just had Cassian's and Couch's Kingbirds, why not a 
Caracara from the same region?
Will RaupGlenmont, NY From: swalte...@verizon.net
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:09:53 -0500

I believe they are increasing in Florida. This narrative comes from Florida 
Bird Species: An Annotated List by William B. Robertson. Jr. and Glen E. 
Woolfenden (1992): “Resident on central Florida ranchland, prairies, and 
savannas… centered in the eight contiguous counties just west and north of Lake 
Okeechobee. Once somewhat more widely distributed south and west of the Lake 
and also ranged north in the St. John’s River marshes to Volusia co. Still 
occasionally reported far outside known breeding range, north to Nassau co. , 
west in the panhandle to Bay co., and south to the Keys. These stragglers are 
usually lone individuals, and some were known to have escaped from captivity.” 
The Nassau in the description is north of Jacksonville, bordering Georgia. But 
how ironic to see that in print. Based on that, it seems that the Florida birds 
have been known to have a propensity to wander, although this does not 
reference wanderings beyond Florida. I know that these days, they are once 
again resident south of the Lake. I’ve seen them within a couple of miles of 
Alligator Alley. Last winter, I was meeting up with a group at a wetlands area 
in Hendry co. When I arrived, I had to apologize for being a little late. I 
explained myself by saying “There was a pair of Caracaras feeding on the 
shoulder of the road, so I stopped for a while to photograph them. It’s funny, 
but I never have to look for Caracaras anymore. I just get them on my way to 
places”. The reply I got was “Well, they never used to be there”. So, put two 
and two together.  Steve Walter From: bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of leormand .
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:22 PM
To: John Askildsen
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos It's my understanding 
that Falconer's DO NOT keep this species.  Also, there is a distinct Florida 
population - much shorter trip for the bird than coming from Texas.   On Thu, 
Jan 29, 2015 at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen  wrote: thanks 
for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the worrisome 
part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think that brings 
the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested caracara in a 
densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting on a deck rail. 
is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it seems like an 
unlikely species for falconers to keep.


does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out of 
range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



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RE: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread Steve Walter
I believe they are increasing in Florida.

 

This narrative comes from Florida Bird Species: An Annotated List by William
B. Robertson. Jr. and Glen E. Woolfenden (1992): "Resident on central
Florida ranchland, prairies, and savannas. centered in the eight contiguous
counties just west and north of Lake Okeechobee. Once somewhat more widely
distributed south and west of the Lake and also ranged north in the St.
John's River marshes to Volusia co. Still occasionally reported far outside
known breeding range, north to Nassau co. , west in the panhandle to Bay
co., and south to the Keys. These stragglers are usually lone individuals,
and some were known to have escaped from captivity."

 

The Nassau in the description is north of Jacksonville, bordering Georgia.
But how ironic to see that in print. Based on that, it seems that the
Florida birds have been known to have a propensity to wander, although this
does not reference wanderings beyond Florida.

 

I know that these days, they are once again resident south of the Lake. I've
seen them within a couple of miles of Alligator Alley. Last winter, I was
meeting up with a group at a wetlands area in Hendry co. When I arrived, I
had to apologize for being a little late. I explained myself by saying
"There was a pair of Caracaras feeding on the shoulder of the road, so I
stopped for a while to photograph them. It's funny, but I never have to look
for Caracaras anymore. I just get them on my way to places". The reply I got
was "Well, they never used to be there".

 

So, put two and two together.

 

 

Steve Walter

 

From: bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of leormand .
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:22 PM
To: John Askildsen
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

 

It's my understanding that Falconer's DO NOT keep this species.  Also, there
is a distinct Florida population - much shorter trip for the bird than
coming from Texas.  

 

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen 
wrote:

 thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the
worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think
that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested
caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting
on a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it
seems like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.


does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out
of range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



JPA
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread leormand .
It's my understanding that Falconer's DO NOT keep this species.  Also,
there is a distinct Florida population - much shorter trip for the bird
than coming from Texas.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen 
wrote:

>  thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the
> worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think
> that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested
> caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting
> on a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it
> seems like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.
>
>
> does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out
> of range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?
>
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> JPA
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread Ryan Candee
In Central America, we have seen wild caracaras frequent hotel/lodge grounds 
(one liked to stroll around the swimming pool where we stayed in 2013) and 
other areas of human habitation (as is the case with many scavenger birds).  As 
they are opportunistic birds that aren't particularly shy around people, it 
wouldn't surprise me to see them around residential areas especially when in 
such an unfamiliar range and climate.

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen  wrote:
> 
> thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the 
> worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think 
> that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested 
> caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting 
> on a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it 
> seems like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.   
> 
> 
> does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out of 
> range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?
> 
> 
> 
> JPA
> John Askildsen 
> Millbrook, New York
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[nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread John Askildsen
 thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the 
worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think 
that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested 
caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting on 
a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it seems 
like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.   


does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out of 
range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



JPA
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[nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread John Askildsen
 thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the 
worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think 
that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested 
caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting on 
a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it seems 
like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.   


does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out of 
range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread Ryan Candee
In Central America, we have seen wild caracaras frequent hotel/lodge grounds 
(one liked to stroll around the swimming pool where we stayed in 2013) and 
other areas of human habitation (as is the case with many scavenger birds).  As 
they are opportunistic birds that aren't particularly shy around people, it 
wouldn't surprise me to see them around residential areas especially when in 
such an unfamiliar range and climate.

 On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen askild...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the 
 worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think 
 that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested 
 caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting 
 on a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it 
 seems like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.   
 
 
 does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out of 
 range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?
 
 
 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread Will Raup
I have a different theory.
I bet the increase in Caracaras on the East Coast/Northeast are more from Texas 
and the Southwest, perhaps displaced by long term drought in that region.  On 
the other hand, NY has just had Cassian's and Couch's Kingbirds, why not a 
Caracara from the same region?
Will RaupGlenmont, NY From: swalte...@verizon.net
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:09:53 -0500

I believe they are increasing in Florida. This narrative comes from Florida 
Bird Species: An Annotated List by William B. Robertson. Jr. and Glen E. 
Woolfenden (1992): “Resident on central Florida ranchland, prairies, and 
savannas… centered in the eight contiguous counties just west and north of Lake 
Okeechobee. Once somewhat more widely distributed south and west of the Lake 
and also ranged north in the St. John’s River marshes to Volusia co. Still 
occasionally reported far outside known breeding range, north to Nassau co. , 
west in the panhandle to Bay co., and south to the Keys. These stragglers are 
usually lone individuals, and some were known to have escaped from captivity.” 
The Nassau in the description is north of Jacksonville, bordering Georgia. But 
how ironic to see that in print. Based on that, it seems that the Florida birds 
have been known to have a propensity to wander, although this does not 
reference wanderings beyond Florida. I know that these days, they are once 
again resident south of the Lake. I’ve seen them within a couple of miles of 
Alligator Alley. Last winter, I was meeting up with a group at a wetlands area 
in Hendry co. When I arrived, I had to apologize for being a little late. I 
explained myself by saying “There was a pair of Caracaras feeding on the 
shoulder of the road, so I stopped for a while to photograph them. It’s funny, 
but I never have to look for Caracaras anymore. I just get them on my way to 
places”. The reply I got was “Well, they never used to be there”. So, put two 
and two together.  Steve Walter From: bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of leormand .
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:22 PM
To: John Askildsen
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos It's my understanding 
that Falconer's DO NOT keep this species.  Also, there is a distinct Florida 
population - much shorter trip for the bird than coming from Texas.   On Thu, 
Jan 29, 2015 at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen askild...@verizon.net wrote: thanks 
for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the worrisome 
part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think that brings 
the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested caracara in a 
densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting on a deck rail. 
is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it seems like an 
unlikely species for falconers to keep.


does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out of 
range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



JPA
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread leormand .
It's my understanding that Falconer's DO NOT keep this species.  Also,
there is a distinct Florida population - much shorter trip for the bird
than coming from Texas.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen askild...@verizon.net
wrote:

  thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the
 worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think
 that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested
 caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting
 on a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it
 seems like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.


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 of range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



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RE: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

2015-01-29 Thread Steve Walter
I believe they are increasing in Florida.

 

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B. Robertson. Jr. and Glen E. Woolfenden (1992): Resident on central
Florida ranchland, prairies, and savannas. centered in the eight contiguous
counties just west and north of Lake Okeechobee. Once somewhat more widely
distributed south and west of the Lake and also ranged north in the St.
John's River marshes to Volusia co. Still occasionally reported far outside
known breeding range, north to Nassau co. , west in the panhandle to Bay
co., and south to the Keys. These stragglers are usually lone individuals,
and some were known to have escaped from captivity.

 

The Nassau in the description is north of Jacksonville, bordering Georgia.
But how ironic to see that in print. Based on that, it seems that the
Florida birds have been known to have a propensity to wander, although this
does not reference wanderings beyond Florida.

 

I know that these days, they are once again resident south of the Lake. I've
seen them within a couple of miles of Alligator Alley. Last winter, I was
meeting up with a group at a wetlands area in Hendry co. When I arrived, I
had to apologize for being a little late. I explained myself by saying
There was a pair of Caracaras feeding on the shoulder of the road, so I
stopped for a while to photograph them. It's funny, but I never have to look
for Caracaras anymore. I just get them on my way to places. The reply I got
was Well, they never used to be there.

 

So, put two and two together.

 

 

Steve Walter

 

From: bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-118757363-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of leormand .
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:22 PM
To: John Askildsen
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L-for posts posts
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Seaford Crested Caracara Photos

 

It's my understanding that Falconer's DO NOT keep this species.  Also, there
is a distinct Florida population - much shorter trip for the bird than
coming from Texas.  

 

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:03 AM, John Askildsen askild...@verizon.net
wrote:

 thanks for posting, steve. well, it is certainly a crested caracara. the
worrisome part for me is that it is sitting on someone's deck ! and i think
that brings the bird's provenance into question. i've never seen a crested
caracara in a densely developed residential neighborhood, let alone sitting
on a deck rail. is the bird looking for a 'handout' ? having said that, it
seems like an unlikely species for falconers to keep.


does anyone have any ideas as to why caracaras are being recorded well out
of range, in the last 2-3 years ? texas drought ?



JPA
 John Askildsen
Millbrook, New York

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