Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Oom Bak suruh keluarin LK BUMI sekarang aja Mbah, net incomenya digedein kalo perlu he he..Capex-nya dikecilin jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya, anda benar... Disamping itu, saat ini BUMI adalah the HEAVY WEIGHT BC in BEI, jadi kalo BUMI naik maka CAPITAL INFLOW akan deras masuknya pada grafik CAPITAL FLOW di invest2000.net. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau BUMI ga naek, yang laen keseret ga naek juga ya Mbah? Jadi yang pegang lain-lain pada liat BUMI skrg, feelingnya ada di BUMI ya mbah? jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhatikan BUMI diturunin ke 6250, IHSG turun ke 2455 +4... CORE of the MARKET SENTIMEN ada di BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Yang paling penting BUMI... Saat ini BUMI 6350, jika BUMI turun lagi, artinya BOZZ engga mau NAEKIN ihsg lebih tinggi lagi... Saat ini IHSG 2470 +18... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX alxtrader@ wrote: Perlu satu hari ini lagi aja buat pertahankan momentum... Mdh2an bisa tutup hijau BULL !!! BULL !!! EFFENDI !!! -- Salam ALX Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
Ya jangan ngikutin market lah., jangan layanin market., market yg layanin kita.. market is for our convenience, not ours for market.. soalnya kalo profesor sayah yg lokal-punya mah ngajarinnya bukan liat market(Top-Down) tp Bottom-Up dan fokus saja pada Cash-flow n ROIC and their Driver-reasoning., since We can Never Precisely Predict Market. we can just take advantage of those irrational behaviour... even in depressingly bearish market those that still put- up a good figure on fundamental aspects would be a very nice bargain that would feed us well only by Its stream of cash- flow... and when everything's go back to growing cycle and the valuation are expanding.., that is when what we seed is what we get.. market can be irrational tp kita bisa tetep rasional kan??... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Marina Utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means nobody perfect, nobody can predict the market accurately, not even Warren Buffet. I remember my finance prof in US, he tried to predict the market with so many formula, but none of those with market since the market is irrational. It's in GOD's hand! Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P ...and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please ... ... ... ... ... ... MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ha..ha...ha..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com: Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. rahim@ wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun ... siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Mbah dah ready d KISS EL cynk ( He.. he.. he.. ) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Tbumi ST Trader? RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
Tbumi punya dua alamat e-mail. Yang LT investor [EMAIL PROTECTED], yang ST trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nggak jelas juga, orangnya sama apa nggak. J RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: 28 Maret 2008 9:58 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti??? Wah, Pak Tbumi sdh berubah nih dari LT investor menjadi ST trader? What do you know pak? Please share with us...Danke. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Pak Tbumi, Apakah akan ada window dressing Senin depan (akhir Q1) ??.. sip : tbumi Market lagi tak stabil, jadi kemungkinan window dressing kecil sekali. Bila bisa cuan harian, ambillah kesempatan ini dulu. Besok adalah urusan besok lagi.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BIG VOLUME on BOTTOM, mohon tuntunan
Sudaahhh, kamu ngaku jadi cewe aja. Trus ngaku umur kamu 20-an. Bikin FS dan pasang photo cewe cakep and sexy. Dan jangan lupa posting-nya pakai english. Dijamin, kamu pasti jadi pusat perhatian disini, dan omongan kamu pasti diperhatikan (terlepas benar atau salah). Gitu lho caranya, hehehe... sorry j/k. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya laki pak..hehehe... Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terima kasih atas pandangan dan pengalamannya Bp/Ibu Terry.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Maybank hancur setelah beli BII
Ya lain dong kalau yang jualan orang BU sama nggak BU. (BU: butuh uang). Apalagi, sudah BU ada permainan lagi. Ya, jualannya bener-bener sale abis. RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hartanto Sent: 27 Maret 2008 20:06 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Maybank hancur setelah beli BII Yup, kalau dulu BPPN bisa jualan kayak gini, tentunya kondisi Indonesia tidak akan seperti ini. Yang jadi concern saya apakah saham perbankan lainnya di BEI bisa kena dampak dari hancurnya harga saham Maybank karena transaksi pembelian saham BNII ini? --- Pada Kam, 27/3/08, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Maybank hancur setelah beli BII Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 27 Maret, 2008, 4:45 PM andai dulu bppn bisa jualan model begini ya.. andai ini.. andai itu.. On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:18:47 +0700, rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya sih appricitae ama temasek termasuk marketing nya kali, bisa jual di harga begitu tinggi saat harga saham banyak yang jatuh. lha wong, dengan perfomance seperti BNII, masih banyak saham banking dijual murah rata2 saham perbakn di BEI aja paling saat ini valuasi nya PBV cuma di 1.8-2.5x, atau PER paling di 10-20x + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _ Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http:/id.answers.yahoo.com/ Answers image001.gifimage002.gif
Tbumi ST Trader? RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
ya, kan itu Mereka.. eh kalian... eh anda anda dink.. (bingung., pokonya versi yang mengacu pada objek bila si objek merefer dirinya sebagai subjek jamak yaitu kami tea...) ;P , canda.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tbumi punya dua alamat e-mail. Yang LT investor [EMAIL PROTECTED], yang ST trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nggak jelas juga, orangnya sama apa nggak. J RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: 28 Maret 2008 9:58 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti??? Wah, Pak Tbumi sdh berubah nih dari LT investor menjadi ST trader? What do you know pak? Please share with us...Danke. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Pak Tbumi, Apakah akan ada window dressing Senin depan (akhir Q1) ??.. sip : tbumi Market lagi tak stabil, jadi kemungkinan window dressing kecil sekali. Bila bisa cuan harian, ambillah kesempatan ini dulu. Besok adalah urusan besok lagi.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BIG VOLUME on BOTTOM, mohon tuntunan
Klo menurut kalian, aku ini cewek apa cowok? Pada tanggal 28/03/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Sudaahhh, kamu ngaku jadi cewe aja. Trus ngaku umur kamu 20-an. Bikin FS dan pasang photo cewe cakep and sexy. Dan jangan lupa posting-nya pakai english. Dijamin, kamu pasti jadi pusat perhatian disini, dan omongan kamu pasti diperhatikan (terlepas benar atau salah). Gitu lho caranya, hehehe... sorry j/k. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya laki pak..hehehe... Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terima kasih atas pandangan dan pengalamannya Bp/Ibu Terry. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
Yes, the same experience I met in the late 80's when I send my son to study at SUNY (State University NY) BINGHAMTON. A Prof (already forgot his name) whom got Award for his statement, Prices are moving like drunken people and nobody can predict accurately except God and He told me, the only way you can do is just follow the market, because the market is always right. Good Luck, SB Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Marina Utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:42:47 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. This means nobody perfect, nobody can predict the market accurately, not even Warren Buffet. I remember my finance prof in US, he tried to predict the market with so many formula, but none of those with market since the market is irrational. It's in GOD's hand! Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P ...and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please ... ... ... ... ... ... MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com: ha..ha...ha..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com mailto:andi_wahyudi2000%40yahoo.com : Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:jsxtrader%40yahoo.com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun ... siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Mbah dah ready d KISS EL cynk ( He.. he.. he.. ) Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Power Finance, RITES tie up to boost coal import
Power Finance, RITES tie up to boost coal import MUMBAI (Reuters) - State-run lender Power Finance Corp Ltd (PFC) said on Thursday it has tied up with another state-run firm, RITES Ltd, to facilitate import of coal from African countries for Indian power projects. The two firms will provide advisory services to help Indian firms acquire mining rights abroad, they said in a joint statement. The two firms may also form a special purpose vehicle to acquire coal mining rights abroad, along with a local company, outsource the mining and import the coal to India, they added. RITES, which is a technical arm of the Indian Railways, and PFC said they will also work with concerned agencies to augment port capacity and road and rail connectivity in India to meet the rising demand for coal imports. Coal accounts for 55 percent of India's energy needs and with the limited reserves of petroleum and natural gas, coal is expected to be the primary fuel in India for a few more years. Power Finance shares closed 2 percent higher at 166 rupees in a Mumbai market that ended down 0.4 percent. source: Reuters27 March 2008 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Xstrata lifts force majeure at Australia coal mine
Xstrata lifts force majeure at Australia coal mine PERTH (Reuters) - Xstrata (XTA.L: Quote, Profile, Research), the world's biggest thermal coal exporter, said on Thursday it lifted force majeure on coal shipments from its Rolleston mine in Australia, which produces 8 million tonnes of thermal coal annually. We've sent out a note to clients today informing them that the force majeure has been lifted and shipments will resume shortly, said James Rickards, a spokesman from Xstrata's coal unit in Australia. The resumption of exports from Rolleston could drive prices below $120 a tonne, traders say. Prices for prompt-delivery of thermal coal, used for power generation and making of cement, have sagged by around $30, or 20 percent, from a record $150 in early February, as urgent demand among North Asian utilities eased. Xstrata joined a handful of miners in declaring force majeure following February's heavy rainfalls in the coal-rich Bowen Basin of Queensland. Shipments from its 8-million-tones-a-year Newlands thermal coal mine and the 4.9 million tonnes a year Collinsville mine, remain under force majeure, Rickards said. Collinsville yields thermal and coking coal. Rio Tinto Ltd/Plc (RIO.AX: Quote, Profile, Research)(RIO.L: Quote, Profile, Research) on Wednesday said it had resumed shipments at its 4.5-million-tonnes-a-year Hail Creek coking coal mine in Australia. source: Reuters 27 March 2008 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] RPT-Southern seeks 4.5 mln tons of coal over 3 yrs
http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUSN2767881020080327
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Quote, Profile, Research) has called for bids to supply 1.5 million tons of
coal (1.36 million tonnes) per year for three years to power plants in Alabama,
a spokesman said Thursday.
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deliver coal by barge to three plants and by rail to one plant, totaling 4.5
million tons, from January 2009 through December 2011.
The plants have distinct requirements, but heat content sought is
11,300 to 11,600 BTUs per ton. Sulfur content requested ranges from 0.9 pounds
to 2.0 pounds per million BTUs.
Responses from bidders are due April 7, the request for proposals said.
Southern Company Services, a unit of Southern Company, runs power
plants serving Southern-owned regional utilities in Georgia, Florida, Alabama
and Mississippi, plus a number of municipalities and cooperatives in the
region. (Reporting by Bruce Nichols; Editing by Marguerita Choy)
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
Ya jangan ngikutin market lah., jangan layanin market., market yg layanin kita.. market is for our convenience, not ours for market.. Lagi bongkar2 dokumen trus nemu artikel yg cocog sptnya, siapa tahu berguna ^^ Pengenalan FQ : Kecerdasan Finansial (II) Refleksi Diri Peter Tan, CFA, CFP Pengalaman Penulis : Saya berasal dari keluarga miskin dimana ibu selalu menyuruh saya giat belajar agar memperoleh pekerjaan yang baik. Saya menurutinya. Saya belajar dengan giat siang dan malam. Setelah menyelesaikan ujian level A, saya mengikuti sebuah wawancara untuk mendapatkan bea siswa. Cukup menarik, pewawancara itu menanyakan sebuah pertanyaan: Peter, apakah anda tahu, setelah menamatkan sekolah, anda tidak dapat menggunakan ilmu teknik anda di Kementrian? Saya terkejut. Lalu saya membalas Tetapi tentu saja, jika saya tidak memiliki gelar, saya yakin Kementrian pun tidak akan menginginkan saya. Sejak hari itu, pikiran bahwa saya tidak akan dapat menerapkan apa yang telah saya pelajari di sekolah tertanam secara mendalam di otak saya. Untungnya, saya lolos wawancara itu. Kementrian setuju untuk mesponsori kuliah S1 saya. Saya memilih bidang Teknik karena saya diberitahu bahwa teknik merupakan ilmu yang bisa diterapkan di dalam pekerjaan. Apakah saya menyukai persamaan Bernoulli, hukum ketiga Newton dan lain sebagainya? Jawabannya adalah Tidak! Tetapi saya lulus dalam ujian dengan gelar Honours. Dan ternyata benar bahwa saya tidak pernah menggunakan pengetahuan teknik saya atau menerapkan ilmu yang telah saya peroleh di Sekolah dalam pekerjaan saya. Sesudah itu, saya disponsori untuk mengambil gelar master di Inggris dimana saya belajar Defence Technology. Saya sangat bersemangat karena ibu saya berkata bahwa semakin banyak saya belajar akan semakin tinggi gaji yang akan diperoleh dan semakin kaya saya nantinya. Saya menamatkan sekolah, pulang ke rumah dan merasa sangat puas dan bersemangat. Di dorong oleh keinginan untuk mengejar kekayaan, saya memutuskan untuk secara agreasif mengejar ijasah. Saya mengambil LLB, Masters of Business Administration dan Chartered Finansial Analist(CFA) secara bersamaan. Saya lulus semua ujian dengan nilai tinggi. Saya bekerja keras, menyenangkan atasan dan menaiki tangga karir di Perusahaan tempat saya bekerja. Apakah saya telah menjadi kaya. Tahun 1997, saya bertemu dengan teman satu sekolah yang drop out dari sekolah. Dia menjual baju bermerk untuk pria. Pendapatan kotornya adalah $300.000,- pertahun. Dengan memiliki kelebihan akademis(IQ) dan dalam hal hal yang berhubungan dengan emosi(EQ), pendapatan bersih saya hanyalah $30.000,- Sepersepuluh lebih kecil dari dia. Apa sebenarnya yang kurang dalam diri saya? IQ atau EQ atau hal lainnya? Mata rantai yang hilang adalah keunggulan dibidang Finansial yang diukur oleh Kecerdasan Finansial(FQ). Kebanyakan dari kita terbuai untuk hanya memperhatikan hal hal yang sepele dan lupa untuk melakukan hal hal yang besar. Kita dapat menghabiskan waktu untuk mencari kupon diskon di iklan iklan koran seharga $0.20 untuk membeli sebotol susu atau antri berjam jam untuk memperoleh burger gratis. Tapi, saat kita harus menginvestasi uang, kita malah dengan mudah menanamkan $30.000 di institusi finansial yang menawarkan program program tipu muslihat seperti hadiah gratis. Sayang sekali! Mengapa kita bersekolah ? Sekolah mengajarkan kita kemampuan dasar seperti membaca, menulis dan berbicara. Tetapi bersekolah bukanlah akhir dari segalanya. Sekolah merupakan alat untuk mencapai tujuan akhir. Profesor IQ mengajarkan bahwa pendidikan merupakan tujuan akhir sedangkan Profesor FQ mengajarkan bahwa pendidikan merupakan awal dari usaha kita untuk mencapai kebebasan finansial. Mengapa Sekolah Bisnis gagal ? Karena kebanyakan sekolah bisnis dikelola oleh akademis dan pemerintah. Bukan konsultan sebuah bisnis nyata diluar dunia akademis mereka. Profesor IQ mengatakan bahwa saya harus belajar semua teori di sekolah untuk memperoleh First Class Honours Degree in Business, sehingga saya dapat menjadi CEO terbaik disebuah MNC(Multi Nasional Company). Profesor FQ mengajarkan saya untuk belajar dari perusahaan perusahaan terbaik selama praktek kerja, yaitu belajar gaya manajemen mereka dan filosofinya. Sebaiknya saya menghabiskan sebagian besar waktu saya untuk terikat dengan MNC yang sukses dan menghabiskan waktu saya secukupnya di sekolah untuk belajar teori. Teori hanya dapat dibuktikan kebenarannya jika di uji dalam dunia nyata. Mengapa Lulusan Universitas gagal ? Einstein menemukan teori tentang relativitas(Theory of Relativity), dimana benda yang bergerak dengan kecepatan cahaya dapat dikonversikan menjadi energi ( teori menuju alam gaib). Hidup adalah relatif. Jika seseorang lulusan universitas merasa bahwa gelar yang ia miliki sangat tinggi nilainya, relatif lebih tinggi dari pada mereka sebagai seorang manusia, maka gelar tersebut merupakan batu hambatan menuju kesuksesan. Profesor IQ mengatakan bahwa saya
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BIG VOLUME on BOTTOM, mohon tuntunan
Nggak penting lah yauuu Ha..ha..ha.. Kaburrr takut di jitaq --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, vividtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Klo menurut kalian, aku ini cewek apa cowok?
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
Accurately JELAS tidak bisa, NO question about it..., tapi kalo MENDEKATI masa ngga bisa sih Pak? Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SbudianaY Sent: 28 Maret 2008 13:33 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. Yes, the same experience I met in the late 80's when I send my son to study at SUNY (State University NY) BINGHAMTON. A Prof (already forgot his name) whom got Award for his statement, Prices are moving like drunken people and nobody can predict accurately except God and He told me, the only way you can do is just follow the market, because the market is always right. Good Luck, SB Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Marina Utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:42:47 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. This means nobody perfect, nobody can predict the market accurately, not even Warren Buffet. I remember my finance prof in US, he tried to predict the market with so many formula, but none of those with market since the market is irrational. It's in GOD's hand! Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com: ha..ha...ha..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com mailto:andi_wahyudi2000%40yahoo.com : Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:jsxtrader%40yahoo.com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun ... siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Mbah dah ready d KISS EL cynk ( He.. he.. he.. ) Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8 HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/c ategory.php?category=shopping Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8 HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15
[obrolan-bandar] U-25 OB-ers
Iseng-iseng jumat lunch break, collect data anggota U-25 OB-ers.. Jadi makin semangatt.. 1.Kang Ocoy (1998 smp) 2.Elaine (self stated..seumuran Kang Ocoy.. considered?) 3.Vivid 4.Hendrik_lww...? 5.Feli...? 6.Jko (me) Bener gak ya..
Re: Tbumi ST Trader? RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
Oooo pantes katanya kemaren-kemaren dapet profit bulanan... mingguan... beda toh? -- Salam ALX™ On 3/28/08, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tbumi punya dua alamat e-mail. Yang LT investor [EMAIL PROTECTED], yang ST trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nggak jelas juga, orangnya sama apa nggak. J RW *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rei *Sent:* 28 Maret 2008 9:58 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti??? Wah, Pak Tbumi sdh berubah nih dari LT investor menjadi ST trader? What do you know pak? Please share with us...Danke. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Pak Tbumi, Apakah akan ada window dressing Senin depan (akhir Q1) ??.. sip : tbumi Market lagi tak stabil, jadi kemungkinan window dressing kecil sekali. Bila bisa cuan harian, ambillah kesempatan ini dulu. Besok adalah urusan besok lagi.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
MENDEKATI pun buat saya susahnya amit2.., buat saya lebih mudah review cashflow dan ratio2 keuangan, put up some model based on that. figuring bussiness-value, trus cocokin dah ama market. market lagi sodorin diskon apa premium. Simply karena buat saya prediksi market itu sulit and i cant do that. On the Contrary, buat orang lain, Memprediksi ato menebak mendekati market itu relatif lebih bisa dan simpel drpd pusing2 dan berlama2 utak-utik financial model dan laporan keuangan.. ato simply go with the market and play on market-timing... ada yg suka timing and trend-go-ing ada yg suka pricing and waiting. matter of preference yah.., tp saling mengisi dan saling menghormati saja toh yg penting sama2 cari untung kan. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Accurately JELAS tidak bisa, NO question about it..., tapi kalo MENDEKATI masa ngga bisa sih Pak? Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SbudianaY Sent: 28 Maret 2008 13:33 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. Yes, the same experience I met in the late 80's when I send my son to study at SUNY (State University NY) BINGHAMTON. A Prof (already forgot his name) whom got Award for his statement, Prices are moving like drunken people and nobody can predict accurately except God and He told me, the only way you can do is just follow the market, because the market is always right. Good Luck, SB Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Marina Utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:42:47 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. This means nobody perfect, nobody can predict the market accurately, not even Warren Buffet. I remember my finance prof in US, he tried to predict the market with so many formula, but none of those with market since the market is irrational. It's in GOD's hand! Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com: ha..ha...ha..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com mailto:andi_wahyudi2000%40yahoo.com : Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:jsxtrader%40yahoo.com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. rahim@ wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun ... siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Mbah dah ready d KISS EL cynk ( He.. he.. he.. ) Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06 i62sR8 HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newse arch/c ategory.php?category=shopping Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06 i62sR8 HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
Accurately JELAS tidak bisa, NO question about it..., tapi kalo MENDEKATI masa ngga bisa sih Pak? Menurut saya, kalo BLINK sudah sampe sih, No PROBLEM Pak^^ Spt Pak Boyz Bilang Sebenarnya tdk terlalu penting PREDIKSI kita benar atau salah...^^ Yg penting adalahSaat prediksi benar, kita bisa memperoleh maksimal GAIN, tapi saat salah kita bisa minimal LOSS...^^ Sama saja Hidup juga TDK PASTI, apakah kita besok masih HIDUP atau tidak ? Tapi tetaplah kita memegang KEPASTIANdengan cara2 yg memang sudah digariskan KETIDAK PASTIAN itu juga adalah KEPASTIAN...demikian juga sebaliknya^^ Sekedar ilustrasi Saat orang merasa tinggi hati, biasanya JUSTRU disitulah dia akan banyak menemukan KETIDAK PASTIAN dalam dirinya, karena ulap/silau dalam pandangan hatinya, sehingga tdk bisa melihat segala sesuatu dengan JERNIH...(KETIDAK PASTIAN) demikian juga sebaliknya...mereka yg bisa memimpin baik dirinya maupun orang lain dengan rendah hatiHAL - HAL yg dianggap oleh orang2 yg tinggi hati sebagai suatu hal yg TDK PASTI/TDK MUNGKIN...akan menjadi PASTI/MUNGKIN dan bahkan akan menjadi NYATA^^ Bagi orang yg rendah hati Karena, orang2 spt ini biasanya bisa melihat segala sesuatu atau kesempatan dengan BAIK dan TDK akan TERLAMBAT menggunakannya, karena sebelum itu mereka melakukan penantian dengan SABAR dan HARAPAN...^^ kemudian TUHAN menempatkan KESEMPATAN di depannya, pada waktuNya and he/she got it^^ Why ? Ya, mungkin karena TUHAN lebih suka orang yg rendah hati dari pada tinggi hati kali ya...^^ CMIIW -- Tks Best Regards Wong becik iku ndelikno kabecikan'eojo rumangsa bisa, tapi bisa'a rumangsa...:-) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Accurately JELAS tidak bisa, NO question about it..., tapi kalo MENDEKATI masa ngga bisa sih Pak? Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SbudianaY Sent: 28 Maret 2008 13:33 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. Yes, the same experience I met in the late 80's when I send my son to study at SUNY (State University NY) BINGHAMTON. A Prof (already forgot his name) whom got Award for his statement, Prices are moving like drunken people and nobody can predict accurately except God and He told me, the only way you can do is just follow the market, because the market is always right. Good Luck, SB Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Marina Utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:42:47 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. This means nobody perfect, nobody can predict the market accurately, not even Warren Buffet. I remember my finance prof in US, he tried to predict the market with so many formula, but none of those with market since the market is irrational. It's in GOD's hand! Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com: ha..ha...ha..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com mailto:andi_wahyudi2000%40yahoo.com : Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com mailto:jsxtrader%40yahoo.com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. rahim@ wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun ... siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader jsxtrader@ .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm…. Ave naik terus…, next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nyangkuters Nyangkut Sent: 28 Maret 2008 11:37 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Kalo gitu Mari Kita Kemon Jangan sampe Gagal maning - gagal maning Iya ora son? Salam Nyangkuters - Original Message From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:26:45 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG BUMI R2 6333, R1 6216.., banyak kejadian di 6250, average sdh 6239, indicator mengarah keatas semua, kalau ave hari ini bisa diatas 6250 kecenderungan untuk naik lebih besar. Let's see Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: HYPERLINK mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 28 Maret 2008 11:11 To: HYPERLINK mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Perhatikan BUMI diturunin ke 6250, IHSG turun ke 2455 +4... CORE of the MARKET SENTIMEN ada di BUMI --- In HYPERLINK mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang paling penting BUMI... Saat ini BUMI 6350, jika BUMI turun lagi, artinya BOZZ engga mau NAEKIN ihsg lebih tinggi lagi... Saat ini IHSG 2470 +18... --- In HYPERLINK mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX™ alxtrader@ wrote: Perlu satu hari ini lagi aja buat pertahankan momentum... Mdh2an bisa tutup hijau BULL !!! BULL !!! EFFENDI !!! -- Salam ALX™ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) ups.com mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Looking for last minute shopping deals? HYPERLINK http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/ca tegory.php?category=shoppingFind them fast with Yahoo! Search. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
My target is done for now. Which is always 0.6% to 0.9% for today as well. Not too much lah. So some chevaliers are being retreated now ... Hehehe... 2008/3/27 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pak AA, Berapa prediksi anda untuk besok? Kita lihat seberapa dekat target anda dgn actual number-nya...trims! abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mbah, are you really that old (as in Eleine's attachment)? Well, actually my target was 0,60%. JCI was 0.44% today. I missed mine as well. Let's see tomorrow if I can move the market exaclty to my target... LO BTW, are you still at your -20 points for tomorrow? -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/3/27 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P ...and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please ... ... ... ... ... ... MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ha..ha...ha..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com: Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun ... siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Mbah dah ready d KISS EL cynk ( He.. he.. he.. )
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
prediksi tanpa punya power untuk mewujudkan, mostly cuma omongkosong (OMDO) but prediksi dengan having a big power sering berhasil.. how about EL ? :) let's see. - Pesan Asli Dari: Marina Utama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 28 Maret, 2008 11:42:47 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.. This means nobody perfect, nobody can predict the market accurately, not even Warren Buffet. I remember my finance prof in US, he tried to predict the market with so many formula, but none of those with market since the market is irrational. It's in GOD's hand! Elaine you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com wrote: Yes, I miss my today's target. The additional +10 was beyond my control. Anyway, maybe you should ask mr Abdulrahim, did he do that? :P ...and since I' technically lost, I should kiss Embah Embah, step closer please ... ... ... ... ... ... MMMUAHHH... :) Love you, grandpa. ^^ Elaine 2008/3/27 farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: ha..ha...ha. ..(lol) untung gak benars +0, bisa disembah kamu EL...he..he (lol) - Original Message From: Herman Syaputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:51:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. o my god El,what has you done.?? miracle? great job. Jack Surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: mau donk d cium mbak EL,... JS 2008/3/27 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: It could even be 0,6% hehehe 2008/3/27 Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com: Saya mau taruhan juga sama EL: Kalau tidak +0, saya cium dia, kalau +0, dia cium saya. Gimana EL? Mau? jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Mantap EL..., congrat !! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elaine bentar lg disanjung2 dong... Tadi yang antri minta cun siap2 pada cun pak Boyz... hihihihi... 2008/3/27 jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .: eeiitt...mulai rebound..., bisa jadi Pak Boyz yang dapet kiss..., dari Mbah...he... he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, petualang.saham petualang.saham@ wrote: Mbah dah ready d KISS EL cynk ( He.. he.. he.. ) Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo..com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BIG VOLUME on BOTTOM, mohon tuntunan
ah nubie jadi batal jumat' an. tiap kali liat ini nick, nubie jadi gelisah. mengingatkan pada apaan gt. vividtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Klo menurut kalian, aku ini cewek apa cowok? Pada tanggal 28/03/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Sudaahhh, kamu ngaku jadi cewe aja. Trus ngaku umur kamu 20-an. Bikin FS dan pasang photo cewe cakep and sexy. Dan jangan lupa posting-nya pakai english. Dijamin, kamu pasti jadi pusat perhatian disini, dan omongan kamu pasti diperhatikan (terlepas benar atau salah). Gitu lho caranya, hehehe... sorry j/k. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya laki pak..hehehe... Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terima kasih atas pandangan dan pengalamannya Bp/Ibu Terry. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com - Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite!
RE: Tbumi ST Trader? RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
lho. pan sejak kemaren kemaren itu sudah klip und klar. 'kami' itu ya SCB. kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: ya, kan itu Mereka.. eh kalian... eh anda anda dink.. (bingung., pokonya versi yang mengacu pada objek bila si objek merefer dirinya sebagai subjek jamak yaitu kami tea...) ;P , canda.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tbumi punya dua alamat e-mail. Yang LT investor [EMAIL PROTECTED], yang ST trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nggak jelas juga, orangnya sama apa nggak. J RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: 28 Maret 2008 9:58 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti??? Wah, Pak Tbumi sdh berubah nih dari LT investor menjadi ST trader? What do you know pak? Please share with us...Danke. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Pak Tbumi, Apakah akan ada window dressing Senin depan (akhir Q1) ??.. sip : tbumi Market lagi tak stabil, jadi kemungkinan window dressing kecil sekali. Bila bisa cuan harian, ambillah kesempatan ini dulu. Besok adalah urusan besok lagi. - Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails jetzt einfach von unterwegs mit Yahoo! Go.
[obrolan-bandar] presentation - subprime - insurer etc
A bit of joke about story of all of this mess from beginning: http://www.2shared.com/file/3054791/fe08a0c7/SubPrime_CDO_Explained.html What's next story? . bersambung hehhe ;) Have a nice weekend. :-)
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bill Jone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Tbumi, Tanya apakah MEDCO bisa di colect buat long term 3-4 thn? Terimakasih. SIP : TBUMI Saham MEDC masih termasuk bagus utk LT, karena MEDC masih banyak ada proyek di Libya dan Timur Tengah. Sebenarnya ENRG juga bagus, tapi kasus Lapindo yg menjadi pikiran kami. Beli saat ini kemudian disimpan beberapa tahun, setelah itu boleh dikeluari barangnya utk daily trading. Jadi diposisi ini, para investor selalu diposisi yg untung nantinya, dan hanya mengikuti arus market disaat tsb. Contoh sajalah : saham X beli dgn harga Rp. 300 di tahun 2003, sedangkan di tahun 2008 pernah di harga tertinggi Rp. 3'500. Karena ada resesi yg panjang, ternyata X turun jadi Rp. 2'800 di hari H. Utk daily trading : - pemasangan berapa point dimarket, investor boleh lihat market regional naik atau turun berapa persen. - Jika rebound tipis , maka pasanglah satu, dua dan tiga point diatas harga penutupan kemarin (bukanlah harga tertinggi, penurunan kemarin). Contoh : penutupan X tgl 27-03-2008 di 2'750(beli) / 2'800 (jual) sedang harga tertingginya di Rp. 2'900 dan terendah di Rp. 2'600. Jika 28-03-08 market regional rebound tipis dan pemain ingin jual 10 Lot saham X, maka pasanglah jual di 2'825 (3lot), 2'850 (3lot) dan 2'875 (4lot). Bila regional rebound sedang, maka pakai 2,3 dan 4 point diatas penutupan kemarin. Rebound banyak, pakai diatas 3,4 dan 5 point dari harga kemarin. Bila regional merah, pakai sistim diatas tapi kebalikannya yaitu dijual cepat disaat pembukaan dan beli kembali jika sdh terjadi koleksi harga. Tapi jangan lupa, jika begitu buka sdh terjadi koreksi 5 point, maka lebih baik jangan dijual dulu karena turunnya sdh sangat banyak, ini berarti dihari tsb tak ada rezeki utk dapat uang. Ambil untung tipis saja, yg terpenting frekquensi untung meningkat. Dlm satu bulan bursa buka 20 hari kerja, bila selama 20 hari kerja, investor dpt 6 kali saja dgn pakai sistim selisih 3 point saja, maka pemain sdh bisa cuan hampir 10% per bulan(modal 10jt, dpt untung 1.5% bersih per trade ini sdh Rp. 150'000. Bila 6 kali dpt perbulan maka sdh Rp. 900'000. Kan sdh hampir 10% dari Rp. 10 jt. Daripada harap dpt Rp. 900'000 untung per transaksi, ini sdh namanya mimpi). Di posting kami beberapa hari dulu, banyak yg kaget dgn angka 10% ini dan tak percaya sekali bahwa kami bisa cuan 10% per bulan tanpa CL dan bahkan nge short barang. Jadi sangat sederhana saja cari cuan di bursa saham, asal sabar menunggu, tak serakah dan ambil profit tipis asal frequensi cuan selalu meningkat saja. Bila regional naik / turun, maka saham BC di BEI geraknya juga sekitar plus minus 3 - 5 point saja dari harga kemarin. Bila tak percaya, boleh diperhatikan saja beberapa saham BC tsb mulai hari ini sampai minggu depan nanti. Bila sdh cuan, janganlah lupa menolong kaum yg miskin. Pakai cara tradisional saja utk cuan, tak usah pusing pakai sistim Elaine dgn segunung analisanya.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Krisis Global
KOMPAS mah basi kalo buat berita keuangan Kalo berita banjir baru up-to-date hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ah Cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kompas hari ini di halaman depan memuat artikel tentang Krisis Global plus FOKUS juga mengupas tentang hal yang sama. Berita basi atau emang masalah SM belum tuntas ya? Kan beberapa hari ini IHSG rally kalau hari ini koreksi kan wajar- wajar saja ya?
[obrolan-bandar] April Mop ?
Dear Embah n para sesepuh OB, numpang nanya nih, apakah ada bocoran agenda khusus buat acara april mop ya ??? ato mungkin kalo para kaki tangan bandar ada yg punya skenario nyleneh buat april mop di BEI tolong diposting dong cluenya. biar seru nih acara april mop nanti. Regard, E.L.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El.....
terkadang saya tidak bisa membedakan tulisan pak edwinkdr dan pak andri wongso sama sama mantabbb . Biarkan Kereta Itu Lewat - Original Message From: edwinkdr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2008 1:39:38 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kiss Embah El. Ya jangan ngikutin market lah., jangan layanin market., market yg layanin kita.. market is for our convenience, not ours for market.. Lagi bongkar2 dokumen trus nemu artikel yg cocog sptnya, siapa tahu berguna ^^ Pengenalan FQ : Kecerdasan Finansial (II) Refleksi Diri – Peter Tan, CFA, CFP Pengalaman Penulis : Saya berasal dari keluarga miskin dimana ibu selalu menyuruh saya giat belajar agar memperoleh pekerjaan yang baik. Saya menurutinya. Saya belajar dengan giat siang dan malam. Setelah menyelesaikan ujian level A, saya mengikuti sebuah wawancara untuk mendapatkan bea siswa. Cukup menarik, pewawancara itu menanyakan sebuah pertanyaan: Peter, apakah anda tahu, setelah menamatkan sekolah, anda tidak dapat menggunakan ilmu teknik anda di Kementrian? Saya terkejut. Lalu saya membalas Tetapi tentu saja, jika saya tidak memiliki gelar, saya yakin Kementrian pun tidak akan menginginkan saya. Sejak hari itu, pikiran bahwa saya tidak akan dapat menerapkan apa yang telah saya pelajari di sekolah tertanam secara mendalam di otak saya. Untungnya, saya lolos wawancara itu. Kementrian setuju untuk mesponsori kuliah S1 saya. Saya memilih bidang Teknik karena saya diberitahu bahwa teknik merupakan ilmu yang bisa diterapkan di dalam pekerjaan. Apakah saya menyukai persamaan Bernoulli, hukum ketiga Newton dan lain sebagainya? Jawabannya adalah Tidak! Tetapi saya lulus dalam ujian dengan gelar Honours. Dan ternyata benar bahwa saya tidak pernah menggunakan pengetahuan teknik saya atau menerapkan ilmu yang telah saya peroleh di Sekolah dalam pekerjaan saya. Sesudah itu, saya disponsori untuk mengambil gelar master di Inggris dimana saya belajar Defence Technology. Saya sangat bersemangat karena ibu saya berkata bahwa semakin banyak saya belajar akan semakin tinggi gaji yang akan diperoleh dan semakin kaya saya nantinya. Saya menamatkan sekolah, pulang ke rumah dan merasa sangat puas dan bersemangat. Di dorong oleh keinginan untuk mengejar kekayaan, saya memutuskan untuk secara agreasif mengejar ijasah. Saya mengambil LLB, Masters of Business Administration dan Chartered Finansial Analist(CFA) secara bersamaan. Saya lulus semua ujian dengan nilai tinggi. Saya bekerja keras, menyenangkan atasan dan menaiki tangga karir di Perusahaan tempat saya bekerja. Apakah saya telah menjadi kaya. Tahun 1997, saya bertemu dengan teman satu sekolah yang drop out dari sekolah. Dia menjual baju bermerk untuk pria. Pendapatan kotornya adalah $300.000,- pertahun. Dengan memiliki kelebihan akademis(IQ) dan dalam hal – hal yang berhubungan dengan emosi(EQ), pendapatan bersih saya hanyalah $30.000,- Sepersepuluh lebih kecil dari dia. Apa sebenarnya yang kurang dalam diri saya? IQ atau EQ atau hal lainnya? Mata rantai yang hilang adalah keunggulan dibidang Finansial yang diukur oleh Kecerdasan Finansial(FQ) . Kebanyakan dari kita terbuai untuk hanya memperhatikan hal – hal yang sepele dan lupa untuk melakukan hal – hal yang besar. Kita dapat menghabiskan waktu untuk mencari kupon diskon di iklan – iklan koran seharga $0.20 untuk membeli sebotol susu atau antri berjam – jam untuk memperoleh burger gratis. Tapi, saat kita harus menginvestasi uang, kita malah dengan mudah menanamkan $30.000 di institusi finansial yang menawarkan program – program tipu muslihat seperti hadiah gratis. Sayang sekali! Mengapa kita bersekolah ? Sekolah mengajarkan kita kemampuan dasar seperti membaca, menulis dan berbicara. Tetapi bersekolah bukanlah akhir dari segalanya. Sekolah merupakan alat untuk mencapai tujuan akhir. Profesor IQ mengajarkan bahwa pendidikan merupakan tujuan akhir sedangkan Profesor FQ mengajarkan bahwa pendidikan merupakan awal dari usaha kita untuk mencapai kebebasan finansial. Mengapa Sekolah Bisnis gagal ? Karena kebanyakan sekolah bisnis dikelola oleh akademis dan pemerintah. Bukan konsultan sebuah bisnis nyata diluar dunia akademis mereka. Profesor IQ mengatakan bahwa saya harus belajar semua teori di sekolah untuk memperoleh First Class Honours Degree in Business, sehingga saya dapat menjadi CEO terbaik disebuah MNC(Multi Nasional Company). Profesor FQ mengajarkan saya untuk belajar dari perusahaan – perusahaan terbaik selama praktek kerja, yaitu belajar gaya manajemen mereka dan filosofinya. Sebaiknya saya menghabiskan sebagian besar waktu saya untuk terikat dengan MNC yang sukses dan menghabiskan waktu saya secukupnya di sekolah untuk belajar teori. Teori hanya dapat dibuktikan kebenarannya jika di uji dalam dunia nyata. Mengapa Lulusan Universitas gagal ? Einstein menemukan teori tentang relativitas( Theory of Relativity), dimana benda yang bergerak dengan kecepatan cahaya dapat
Tbumi ST Trader? RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
Se-Tan-en-Dharr-Char-Ter-red-mbank Githu yahh... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lho. pan sejak kemaren kemaren itu sudah klip und klar. 'kami' itu ya SCB. kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: ya, kan itu Mereka.. eh kalian... eh anda anda dink.. (bingung., pokonya versi yang mengacu pada objek bila si objek merefer dirinya sebagai subjek jamak yaitu kami tea...) ;P , canda.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ricky Wakiman ricky.wakiman@ wrote: Tbumi punya dua alamat e-mail. Yang LT investor tbumi@, yang ST trader t_bumi@ Nggak jelas juga, orangnya sama apa nggak. J RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: 28 Maret 2008 9:58 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti??? Wah, Pak Tbumi sdh berubah nih dari LT investor menjadi ST trader? What do you know pak? Please share with us...Danke. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Pak Tbumi, Apakah akan ada window dressing Senin depan (akhir Q1) ??.. sip : tbumi Market lagi tak stabil, jadi kemungkinan window dressing kecil sekali. Bila bisa cuan harian, ambillah kesempatan ini dulu. Besok adalah urusan besok lagi. - Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails jetzt einfach von unterwegs mit Yahoo! Go.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
BBRI udah loyo, BUMI and other Heavy Weight stocks will take place. Kuda-2 BOZZ makin kuat ... (Banking and Mining cycling, the Dragon keep balancing). salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm . Ave naik terus , next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
Terimakasih banyak pak Tbumi, Ini sangat membantu.., Skali lagi terimakasih..., Pada tanggal 28/03/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Bill Jone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Tbumi, Tanya apakah MEDCO bisa di colect buat long term 3-4 thn? Terimakasih. SIP : TBUMI Saham MEDC masih termasuk bagus utk LT, karena MEDC masih banyak ada proyek di Libya dan Timur Tengah. Sebenarnya ENRG juga bagus, tapi kasus Lapindo yg menjadi pikiran kami. Beli saat ini kemudian disimpan beberapa tahun, setelah itu boleh dikeluari barangnya utk daily trading. Jadi diposisi ini, para investor selalu diposisi yg untung nantinya, dan hanya mengikuti arus market disaat tsb. Contoh sajalah : saham X beli dgn harga Rp. 300 di tahun 2003, sedangkan di tahun 2008 pernah di harga tertinggi Rp. 3'500. Karena ada resesi yg panjang, ternyata X turun jadi Rp. 2'800 di hari H. Utk daily trading : - pemasangan berapa point dimarket, investor boleh lihat market regional naik atau turun berapa persen. - Jika rebound tipis , maka pasanglah satu, dua dan tiga point diatas harga penutupan kemarin (bukanlah harga tertinggi, penurunan kemarin). Contoh : penutupan X tgl 27-03-2008 di 2'750(beli) / 2'800 (jual) sedang harga tertingginya di Rp. 2'900 dan terendah di Rp. 2'600. Jika 28-03-08 market regional rebound tipis dan pemain ingin jual 10 Lot saham X, maka pasanglah jual di 2'825 (3lot), 2'850 (3lot) dan 2'875 (4lot). Bila regional rebound sedang, maka pakai 2,3 dan 4 point diatas penutupan kemarin. Rebound banyak, pakai diatas 3,4 dan 5 point dari harga kemarin. Bila regional merah, pakai sistim diatas tapi kebalikannya yaitu dijual cepat disaat pembukaan dan beli kembali jika sdh terjadi koleksi harga. Tapi jangan lupa, jika begitu buka sdh terjadi koreksi 5 point, maka lebih baik jangan dijual dulu karena turunnya sdh sangat banyak, ini berarti dihari tsb tak ada rezeki utk dapat uang. Ambil untung tipis saja, yg terpenting frekquensi untung meningkat. Dlm satu bulan bursa buka 20 hari kerja, bila selama 20 hari kerja, investor dpt 6 kali saja dgn pakai sistim selisih 3 point saja, maka pemain sdh bisa cuan hampir 10% per bulan(modal 10jt, dpt untung 1.5% bersih per trade ini sdh Rp. 150'000. Bila 6 kali dpt perbulan maka sdh Rp. 900'000. Kan sdh hampir 10% dari Rp. 10 jt. Daripada harap dpt Rp. 900'000 untung per transaksi, ini sdh namanya mimpi). Di posting kami beberapa hari dulu, banyak yg kaget dgn angka 10% ini dan tak percaya sekali bahwa kami bisa cuan 10% per bulan tanpa CL dan bahkan nge short barang. Jadi sangat sederhana saja cari cuan di bursa saham, asal sabar menunggu, tak serakah dan ambil profit tipis asal frequensi cuan selalu meningkat saja. Bila regional naik / turun, maka saham BC di BEI geraknya juga sekitar plus minus 3 - 5 point saja dari harga kemarin. Bila tak percaya, boleh diperhatikan saja beberapa saham BC tsb mulai hari ini sampai minggu depan nanti. Bila sdh cuan, janganlah lupa menolong kaum yg miskin. Pakai cara tradisional saja utk cuan, tak usah pusing pakai sistim Elaine dgn segunung analisanya.
[obrolan-bandar] Target Price BUMI
Target Price BUMI Rel Date Broker TP Recomm 04/01/08 KZ 8,300 Buy 17/01/08 CC 6,800 Buy 18/01/08 DB 8,200 Buy 21/01/08 LG 7,000 Buy 25/01/08 IF 8,100 Buy 05/02/08 AK 11,000 Buy 06/02/08 RO 9,700 Buy 12/02/08 Citigroup 5,800 Sell 25/02/08 RX 9,500 Outperform 25/02/08 DH 9,500 Buy 27/02/08 YU 7,093 Buy 29/02/08 OD 9,100 Buy 07/03/08 ML 8,500 Buy 13/03/08 BK 8,300 Overweight 25/03/08 DX 9,300 Buy * dari berbagai sumber -- Salam ALX™
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
BUMI garis Fibo Ret 38,2%, Fibo Projection 38,2%, 20 SMA berhimpitan di 6500 , strong resistance ! , kalo bisa tembus dgn heavy vol.., baru mantap Pak Boyz Smoga Salam, JsxTrader --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBRI udah loyo, BUMI and other Heavy Weight stocks will take place. Kuda-2 BOZZ makin kuat ... (Banking and Mining cycling, the Dragon keep balancing). salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm . Ave naik terus , next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader
RE: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
Untuk saham komoditi, kalau menyetahunkan data tiga bulan pertama bisa menyesatkan karena harga produk sangat fluktuatif. RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 27 Maret 2008 22:23 To: Herman Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update Dari Jan-Feb08 AALI telah membukukan revenue sebesar 1.363T. Assume di Mar 08 Revenue AALI sebesar 700M, sehingga total Revenue sekitar 2.06T, dengan net profit margin 44%, = 906M à eps disetahunkan 2303
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Banking emang rada mloyo financial resultnya lg pak Boyz.. valuasinya sih pada bagus alias murah., tp resultnya pada weak kmaren.. BBRI aja yg selama ini slalu jadi most Promising Growth Performer aja hasilnya ga se-ciamik yg diarep2... Buat Bank yg pernah dihargain pasar diatas 4.5kali BV angka growth yg ga nyampe 15% ini menurut saya rada2 bikin IlFil gituloh.. hehe (tp kalo comparisonnya ama BCA ya masih lebih ciamik sihh...) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBRI udah loyo, BUMI and other Heavy Weight stocks will take place. Kuda-2 BOZZ makin kuat ... (Banking and Mining cycling, the Dragon keep balancing). salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm . Ave naik terus , next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ELAINE'S STOCK PICKS (Deadly Month)
Kalo Bpk Ke Pasar, harga Tomat, Cabe, beras, dan Telor udah naik lebih dari 15% rata-rata di bulan Maret ini. Komponen tersebut ngasih sumbangan buat inflasi cukup besar, jadi inflasi Maret bisa diatas 0.8% atau bahkan 1%. Jadi asumsi di APBN bakalan jadi Bullshiit semua. Nah kalo inflasi naik dan BI terpaksa naikin suku bunga maka rebanlancing portofolio bukan saja terjadi di saham tetapi juga antar instrument investasi. SEREMMM gak tuh..:-) Udah ah, mau kerja lagi. See you all Regards JV Posted by: Januar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://profiles.yahoo.com/bajoel78 bajoel78 Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:18 am (PDT) Pak Kosasih,.mau nanya. Kenapa bapak berkesimpulan bulan depan IDX bakalan ancur2an?? - Original Message - From: Steve Kosasih To: mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELAINE'S STOCK PICKS When was the statement? AB (nice try)? I'd never seen that posting. Value Investment, eh..? Just for the analysis of it, I kinda liked the choice, but definitely that's a longer term shot, not a short one... ASII might get hit though next month... I think - my own personal opinion - next month we might see worse time for IDX... Economy... Economy... Economy... Why are we so bullish..? But again, Let's see... I'm just analyzing, not interfering... On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM, AB mailto:asepbuhori%40yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As she told me,, Her favorite is ASTRA group ( ASII, AALI, UNTR ) Reason : The most healthy group among others Bagaimana menurut kawan2 OB? setuju gak? Best Regards AB
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Kenaikan bumi riil..., gak ada yg menghilang dadakan di ofr..., ampe 2 hari trade day ke depan bisa naik. Pada tanggal 28/03/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm…. Ave naik terus…, next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nyangkuters Nyangkut *Sent:* 28 Maret 2008 11:37 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Kalo gitu Mari Kita Kemon Jangan sampe Gagal maning - gagal maning Iya ora son? Salam Nyangkuters - Original Message From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:26:45 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG BUMI R2 6333, R1 6216.., banyak kejadian di 6250, average sdh 6239, indicator mengarah keatas semua, kalau ave hari ini bisa diatas 6250 kecenderungan untuk naik lebih besar. Let's see Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 28 Maret 2008 11:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Perhatikan BUMI diturunin ke 6250, IHSG turun ke 2455 +4... CORE of the MARKET SENTIMEN ada di BUMI --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang paling penting BUMI... Saat ini BUMI 6350, jika BUMI turun lagi, artinya BOZZ engga mau NAEKIN ihsg lebih tinggi lagi... Saat ini IHSG 2470 +18... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX™ alxtrader@ wrote: Perlu satu hari ini lagi aja buat pertahankan momentum... Mdh2an bisa tutup hijau BULL !!! BULL !!! EFFENDI !!! -- Salam ALX™ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP : TBUMI Saham MEDC masih termasuk bagus utk LT, karena MEDC masih banyak ada proyek di Libya dan Timur Tengah. Sebenarnya ENRG juga bagus, tapi kasus Lapindo yg menjadi pikiran kami. Beli saat ini kemudian disimpan beberapa tahun, setelah itu boleh dikeluari barangnya utk daily trading. Jadi diposisi ini, para investor selalu diposisi yg untung nantinya, dan hanya mengikuti arus market disaat tsb. Contoh sajalah : saham X beli dgn harga Rp. 300 di tahun 2003, sedangkan di tahun 2008 pernah di harga tertinggi Rp. 3'500. Karena ada resesi yg panjang, ternyata X turun jadi Rp. 2'800 di hari H. Utk daily trading : - pemasangan berapa point dimarket, investor boleh lihat market regional naik atau turun berapa persen. - Jika rebound tipis , maka pasanglah satu, dua dan tiga point diatas harga penutupan kemarin (bukanlah harga tertinggi, penurunan kemarin). Contoh : penutupan X tgl 27-03-2008 di 2'750(beli) / 2'800 (jual) sedang harga tertingginya di Rp. 2'900 dan terendah di Rp. 2'600. Jika 28-03-08 market regional rebound tipis dan pemain ingin jual 10 Lot saham X, maka pasanglah jual di 2'825 (3lot), 2'850 (3lot) dan 2'875 (4lot). Bila regional rebound sedang, maka pakai 2,3 dan 4 point diatas penutupan kemarin. Rebound banyak, pakai diatas 3,4 dan 5 point dari harga kemarin. Bila regional merah, pakai sistim diatas tapi kebalikannya yaitu dijual cepat disaat pembukaan dan beli kembali jika sdh terjadi koleksi harga. Tapi jangan lupa, jika begitu buka sdh terjadi koreksi 5 point, maka lebih baik jangan dijual dulu karena turunnya sdh sangat banyak, ini berarti dihari tsb tak ada rezeki utk dapat uang. Ambil untung tipis saja, yg terpenting frekquensi untung meningkat. Dlm satu bulan bursa buka 20 hari kerja, bila selama 20 hari kerja, investor dpt 6 kali saja dgn pakai sistim selisih 3 point saja, maka pemain sdh bisa cuan hampir 10% per bulan(modal 10jt, dpt untung 1.5% bersih per trade ini sdh Rp. 150'000. Bila 6 kali dpt perbulan maka sdh Rp. 900'000. Kan sdh hampir 10% dari Rp. 10 jt. Daripada harap dpt Rp. 900'000 untung per transaksi, ini sdh namanya mimpi). Di posting kami beberapa hari dulu, banyak yg kaget dgn angka 10% ini dan tak percaya sekali bahwa kami bisa cuan 10% per bulan tanpa CL dan bahkan nge short barang. Jadi sangat sederhana saja cari cuan di bursa saham, asal sabar menunggu, tak serakah dan ambil profit tipis asal frequensi cuan selalu meningkat saja. Bila regional naik / turun, maka saham BC di BEI geraknya juga sekitar plus minus 3 - 5 point saja dari harga kemarin. Bila tak percaya, boleh diperhatikan saja beberapa saham BC tsb mulai hari ini sampai minggu depan nanti. Bila sdh cuan, janganlah lupa menolong kaum yg miskin. Pakai cara tradisional saja utk cuan, tak usah pusing pakai sistim Elaine dgn segunung analisanya. sip : tbumi Terlampau banyak sampah email masuk ke email lama kami, maka kami ganti nama ke email baru yaitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Krisis Global
Sama sekali tidak basi. Dampak SM di USA dan di laur USA belum tuntas. Ulasan di hal 45-47 Kompas agak sejalan dengan alasan kenapa saya menduga keras bulan April pasar kita bakal terganggu (sorry... kemarin sudah log-out jadi tidak bisa jawab segera setelah ditanya...) It's all in the economy :P Have a great weekeend to all of us! 2008/3/28 Ah Cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kompas hari ini di halaman depan memuat artikel tentang Krisis Global plus FOKUS juga mengupas tentang hal yang sama. Berita basi atau emang masalah SM belum tuntas ya? Kan beberapa hari ini IHSG rally kalau hari ini koreksi kan wajar-wajar saja ya?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Make a lot of sense karena BUMI adalah perusahaan dengan market cap terbesar di IDX. Kalo bumi goyang IDX ikut goyang pastinya, dan mustinya IDX akan lebih banyak goyangnya kalo BUMI yang goyang dibanding kalo yang lain goyang juga dengan goyangan yang sama. Selamat bergoyang this weekend! On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:11 AM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhatikan BUMI diturunin ke 6250, IHSG turun ke 2455 +4... CORE of the MARKET SENTIMEN ada di BUMI
[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI Update
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Untuk saham komoditi, kalau menyetahunkan data tiga bulan pertama bisa menyesatkan karena harga produk sangat fluktuatif. RW sip : tbumi Bila harga bergerak sangat liar, tentu harus bisa cepat ambil tindakan cuan dulu. Besok adalah urusan besok lagi, jadi kesulitan hari ini cukup utk hari ini sajalah. Jangan lupa, perut minta makan juga dan tak peduli index merah atau hijau.
[obrolan-bandar] Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J-Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to supply Australian thermal coal at $135 a ton for the next fiscal year, Dow Jones Newswires reported earlier. Chubu Electric has also rejected Xstrata PLC's offer of $125/ton. Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton. -By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-5255-2929; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Edited By Simon Hall TALK BACK: We invite readers to send us comments on this or other financial news topics. Please email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Readers should include their full names, work or home addresses and telephone numbers for verification purposes. We reserve the right to edit and publish your comments along with your name; we reserve the right not to publish reader comments. (END) Dow Jones Newswires March 28, 2008 03:21 ET (07:21 GMT) Copyright (c) 2008 Dow Jones Company, Inc.- - 03 21 AM EDT 03-28-08 - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BIG VOLUME on BOTTOM, mohon tuntunan
yah jangan keterusan gelisah lah pak.., tuh BB17 aje udah Almarhum skrg.. kekekekekek --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah nubie jadi batal jumat' an. tiap kali liat ini nick, nubie jadi gelisah. mengingatkan pada apaan gt. vividtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Klo menurut kalian, aku ini cewek apa cowok?
[obrolan-bandar] GO BEI 2500
Hari ini deadline!!!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
Kalo sodorin Thermal BUMI dapetnya di berapa yeh maunya?? ($135 dr Rio en Xstrata $125 gak mao dy) kalo mo barang BUMI en BUMI bisa supply di $100 en bisa deal beneran., ini sayah mau loh beli saham BUMI di 6000... -pak andi, pak FA, biasanya punya info2 terkini masalah Per Batubara- an, skrg Salesnya BUMI andai tawarin Kontrak Thermal Grade PowerPlant Jepang di kisaran berapaan yeh?? atas $90 mepet $100 dapet gak yeh?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rahardjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J-Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to supply Australian thermal coal at $135 a ton for the next fiscal year, Dow Jones Newswires reported earlier. Chubu Electric has also rejected Xstrata PLC's offer of $125/ton. Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton. -By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-5255-2929; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Edited By Simon Hall TALK BACK: We invite readers to send us comments on this or other financial news topics. Please email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Readers should include their full names, work or home addresses and telephone numbers for verification purposes. We reserve the right to edit and publish your comments along with your name; we reserve the right not to publish reader comments. (END) Dow Jones Newswires March 28, 2008 03:21 ET (07:21 GMT) Copyright (c) 2008 Dow Jones Company, Inc.- - 03 21 AM EDT 03-28- 08 - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
Kang Ocoy ini maunya bocorrraaan terus he heUdah dikasih satu, minta dua. Dikasih dua,minta lima..Capek deh (smile). kemarin kan sudah saya kasih bocoran DoJi Kamis kmarin...Upsss...sorry deh, meleset 10 points he he..BTW, EL ke mana ya? Ok deh buat Kang Ocoy yang top markotop, ntar saya mo gerilya lagi. Sederhana aja Kang. Ngikut price channelnya Pak DE aja. Kalau berani beli AALI n PTB, kenapa ga berani beli BUMI? Pizzz kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo sodorin Thermal BUMI dapetnya di berapa yeh maunya?? ($135 dr Rio en Xstrata $125 gak mao dy) kalo mo barang BUMI en BUMI bisa supply di $100 en bisa deal beneran., ini sayah mau loh beli saham BUMI di 6000... -pak andi, pak FA, biasanya punya info2 terkini masalah Per Batubara- an, skrg Salesnya BUMI andai tawarin Kontrak Thermal Grade PowerPlant Jepang di kisaran berapaan yeh?? atas $90 mepet $100 dapet gak yeh?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rahardjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J-Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to supply Australian thermal coal at $135 a ton for the next fiscal year, Dow Jones Newswires reported earlier. Chubu Electric has also rejected Xstrata PLC's offer of $125/ton. Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton. -By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-5255-2929; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Edited By Simon Hall TALK BACK: We invite readers to send us comments on this or other financial news topics. Please email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Readers should include their full names, work or home addresses and telephone numbers for verification purposes. We reserve the right to edit and publish your comments along with
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
Oh ya Tambahan info ajah buat semua, Dr segi analisa FA, Kalo BUMI bisa dapet kontrak jual dalam jumlah besar diatas $95 tahun ini.. it means lonjakan expense karena peningkatan Stripping Ratio + kenaikan beban usaha terkait kenaikan biaya energy + modal investasi untuk genjot produksi sudah Pass-On ke Consumer., bahkan at some extent bisa kasih value added (Expanding the Economic Profit Valuation) karena MARGIN akan Ekspansi Lebih Jauh lagi (kenaikan Margin Profit diatas kenaikan Beban Usaha + Beban Modal)... It'd Means Strong Forecasted Result., and again the TP will be leverage to reflect its expanding value., but that, if BUMI really can Get Selling Contract Above $95 for this year. (bahkan kalo diatas $100 Core Earning 2008 (even dikurangi minority 30%) Pasti ga akan kalah sama 2007 yg ada one time earning) jd., buat yg punya info kontrak jual batubara.. disharing2 kemari lahh oceyyy... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo sodorin Thermal BUMI dapetnya di berapa yeh maunya?? ($135 dr Rio en Xstrata $125 gak mao dy) kalo mo barang BUMI en BUMI bisa supply di $100 en bisa deal beneran., ini sayah mau loh beli saham BUMI di 6000... -pak andi, pak FA, biasanya punya info2 terkini masalah Per Batubara- an, skrg Salesnya BUMI andai tawarin Kontrak Thermal Grade PowerPlant Jepang di kisaran berapaan yeh?? atas $90 mepet $100 dapet gak yeh?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rahardjo richardrahardjo@ wrote: By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J- Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to supply Australian thermal coal at $135 a ton for the next fiscal year, Dow Jones Newswires reported earlier. Chubu Electric has also rejected Xstrata PLC's offer of $125/ton.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
Haha, Biasalahh.., namanya jg usaha.. hehehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kang Ocoy ini maunya bocorrraaan terus he heUdah dikasih satu, minta dua. Dikasih dua,minta lima..Capek deh (smile). kemarin kan sudah saya kasih bocoran DoJi Kamis kmarin...Upsss...sorry deh, meleset 10 points he he..BTW, EL ke mana ya? Ok deh buat Kang Ocoy yang top markotop, ntar saya mo gerilya lagi. Sederhana aja Kang. Ngikut price channelnya Pak DE aja. Kalau berani beli AALI n PTB, kenapa ga berani beli BUMI? Pizzz kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo sodorin Thermal BUMI dapetnya di berapa yeh maunya?? ($135 dr Rio en Xstrata $125 gak mao dy) kalo mo barang BUMI en BUMI bisa supply di $100 en bisa deal beneran., ini sayah mau loh beli saham BUMI di 6000... -pak andi, pak FA, biasanya punya info2 terkini masalah Per Batubara- an, skrg Salesnya BUMI andai tawarin Kontrak Thermal Grade PowerPlant Jepang di kisaran berapaan yeh?? atas $90 mepet $100 dapet gak yeh?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rahardjo richardrahardjo@ wrote: By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J- Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to supply Australian thermal coal at $135 a ton for the next fiscal year, Dow Jones Newswires reported earlier. Chubu Electric has also rejected Xstrata PLC's offer of $125/ton. Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton. -By Mari Iwata, Dow Jones Newswires; 813-5255-2929; mari.iwata@ -Edited By Simon Hall TALK BACK: We invite readers to send us comments on this or
[obrolan-bandar] Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Gw paling demen nih baca postingan pak DE kalo judulnya udah Bukan ajakan... Saya juga pak, porto trading (se-iprit) sdh cash out, LT still utuh. TAPI, semoga index naik terus jangan molor kebawah lagi dah! Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Done already. Ready for the next big Tsunami... the -200 points ... :D 2008/3/28 Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Waduh ... Yang beli hari ini gimana dong ? Hehehe .. nggak apa-apa deh .. masih cash banyak nih ... Thank you Pak atas emailnya
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Pantesan UNTR mlorot lagi , rupanya pak DE keluar tho hik hik hik - Pesan Asli Dari: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 28 Maret, 2008 16:07:35 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Macarthur Coal May Cut Sales Estimate a Second Time on Floods
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081sid=asZxMybtQIR0refer=australia Macarthur Coal May Cut Sales Estimate a Second Time on Floods By Jesse Riseborough and Brett Foley March 28 (Bloomberg) -- Macarthur Coal Ltd., the world's biggest shipper of pulverized coal used to make steel, may cut its fiscal year sales forecast a second time after flooding at its Australian mines. ``We are still reasonably comfortable with it but we would have to say the risk is on the downside'' to the forecast, Ian McAleese, executive manager of corporate development for the Brisbane-based company, said today by phone. ``We are still pumping water out of our pits.'' Macarthur cut its sales forecast 11 percent in November to 4 million metric tons after congestion at Australian coal ports and railroads curbed exports. Coal prices have soared to records as January flooding in Australia's Queensland state forced at least six producers including Macarthur, Xstrata Plc and BHP Billiton Ltd. to warn of missed deliveries. ``We will provide the market with a full update and status of the force majeure once we're through the end of this month and have had time to assess the whole situation,'' McAleese said. Macarthur rose as much as 57 cents, or 4.5 percent, to A$13.25 and traded at A$12.91 at 12:51 p.m. Sydney time on the Australian Stock Exchange. The stock has gained 32 percent this year. Force majeure is a legal clause that allows a company to miss deliveries because of circumstances beyond its control. It remains in place on deliveries from its Coppabella and Moorvale mines. About 90 percent of Macarthur's output is pulverized coal, used in a steel-making process called pulverized coal injection. To contact the reporter on this story: Jesse Riseborough in Melbourne at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last Updated: March 27, 2008 22:00 EDT Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Entar dulu ah pak tsunaminya., nanggung.., Bentarrr lg dehhh.. 3 Jagoan lagi belon keluar rapotnya (BUMI,TLKM,PTBA).. kan nge-set label harganya belon beress nihh... bentar yah bentar.. duh ni BUMI en TLKM yg jd panggung utama malah ga nongol2 lagih.. bentarlaah pak.. biar kalo drop nanti borongnya gak asa-asa gituh pak... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done already. Ready for the next big Tsunami... the -200 points ... :D 2008/3/28 Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] Increasing Energy Prices Good for Some Aussie Shares
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[obrolan-bandar] China eying price hike for coal export to Japan
http://steelguru.com/news/index/2008/03/27/NDAzNzY%3D/China_eying_price_hike_for_coal_export_to_Japan.html China eying price hike for coal export to Japan It is reported that Chinese coal exporters are slated to start negotiating benchmark price with Japanese importers soon while global coal price continues upward swing. China Industry News learns that Japanese buyers are insisting on larger coal shipment from China, while the suppliers are push for higher price. The industrial insiders said that Japanese buyers are sitting on the fence right now in anticipation for a clearer market direction in Chinese coal export. They believe the export price would decline if China's coal export rebounds to 5 million tonnes to 6 million tonnes in April 2008. Most experts and analysts surveyed by the newspaper are anticipating steep price rise ranging from USD 120 per tonne to USD 134 per tonne on coal export to Japan this time. Mr Wu Yongping chairman of Datong Coal Mine predicts that the export price should keep in line with that of last December or February 2008 as the thermal coal export has reached over USD 120 per tonne in February. It's a long term practice that the benchmark price of Chinese coal export would refer to that of Australian thermal coal export to Japan which has yet to be finalized. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELAINE'S STOCK PICKS (Deadly Month)
Exactly :P Apalagi Subprime Mortage final effects belum kelihatan - baik di USA maupun di luar USA. Sorry kemarin udah log-out waktu Pak Januar tanya. Nice weekend to us all! 2008/3/28 Jhon Veter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kalo Bpk Ke Pasar, harga Tomat, Cabe, beras, dan Telor udah naik lebih dari 15% rata-rata di bulan Maret ini. Komponen tersebut ngasih sumbangan buat inflasi cukup besar, jadi inflasi Maret bisa diatas 0.8% atau bahkan 1%. Jadi asumsi di APBN bakalan jadi Bullshiit semua. Nah kalo inflasi naik dan BI terpaksa naikin suku bunga maka rebanlancing portofolio bukan saja terjadi di saham tetapi juga antar instrument investasi. SEREMMM gak tuh……J Udah ah, mau kerja lagi. See you all Regards JV * * * * *Posted by: Januar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] bajoel78 http://profiles.yahoo.com/bajoel78* *Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:18 am (PDT) * Pak Kosasih,.mau nanya. Kenapa bapak berkesimpulan bulan depan IDX bakalan ancur2an?? - Original Message - From: Steve Kosasih To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELAINE'S STOCK PICKS When was the statement? AB (nice try)? I'd never seen that posting. Value Investment, eh..? Just for the analysis of it, I kinda liked the choice, but definitely that's a longer term shot, not a short one... ASII might get hit though next month... I think - my own personal opinion - next month we might see worse time for IDX... Economy... Economy... Economy... Why are we so bullish..? But again, Let's see... I'm just analyzing, not interfering... On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM, AB [EMAIL PROTECTED]asepbuhori%40yahoo.com wrote: As she told me,, Her favorite is ASTRA group ( ASII, AALI, UNTR ) Reason : The most healthy group among others Bagaimana menurut kawan2 OB? setuju gak? Best Regards AB
[obrolan-bandar] Coal to liquids
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=129246 Coal to liquids Sasol making progress on the globalisation of its coal-to-fuels technology Related articles Published: 28 Mar 08 - 0:00 Petrochemicals company Sasols coal-to- liquids (CTL) feasibility studies in China are on track and advancing, international energy cluster GM Lean Strauss has confirmed. We are making progress in China. In December, the board approved a second stage in the feasibility study that we are currently running in China. Moving into the second stage of the feasibility study was supported by the fact that we have [made adequate] progress on the commercial enablers, he added. Owing to huge interest from emerging economic giants, such as China and India, as well as the US, Sasols CTL technology has emerged as a strong contender in the energy sector. The growing interest in CTL stems from coal-rich countries attempting to diversify their transport-fuel mix away from reliance on crude oil imports, and a requirement to guarantee energy security. Sasol CEO Pat Davies visited China in Sep-tember to strengthen ties with that country. An office has also been established in that coun- try, and includes staff members who are CTL specialists. The feasibility study was conducted for projects planned to be undertaken in the Shaanxi and Ningxai provinces, in central China. Sasol plans to construct two plants that will be able to produce 80 000 bbl/d, at an estimated capital cost of $5-billion to $7-billion. Chinas coal, according to Strauss, is of a high quality, and superior to that of South Africa. We expect the feasibility study to be com- pleted at the end of next year, Strauss said. Sasol was also implementing projects in India and the US, but Strauss noted that the opportunities the company was exploring in those countries were still in the prefeasibility stages. The company has established a representative office in India to enable further advancement of CTL in that country, and technical studies are said to be possible only on dedicated coal reserves. Sasol has established at least one CTL plant in India, and a feasibility study has been con- ducted on a proposed 80 000-bl/d CTL plant, which the company says will cost between $6-billion and $8-billion. In the US, Sasol indicates that it is targeting five of that countrys coal-rich states, although Strauss said that capital costs were its main constraints in operating in that country, as it was a high labour-and construction-cost environment. A CTL plant could generate at least 37 000 jobs during the construction period of five years, and over 15 000 jobs could be created during its 25-year lifespan. Edited by: Martin Zhuwakinyu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI...Take profit or hold?????
Embah yg mulia... BUMI nya take profit dl ato gimana mbah? Hold trus ya ?!!! Heheheheh..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Yakin Bro? tadi gw ambil di 6.500, kok makin turun ya? On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Bill Jone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenaikan bumi riil..., gak ada yg menghilang dadakan di ofr..., ampe 2 hari trade day ke depan bisa naik. Pada tanggal 28/03/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm…. Ave naik terus…, next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nyangkuters Nyangkut *Sent:* 28 Maret 2008 11:37 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Kalo gitu Mari Kita Kemon Jangan sampe Gagal maning - gagal maning Iya ora son? Salam Nyangkuters - Original Message From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:26:45 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG BUMI R2 6333, R1 6216.., banyak kejadian di 6250, average sdh 6239, indicator mengarah keatas semua, kalau ave hari ini bisa diatas 6250 kecenderungan untuk naik lebih besar. Let's see Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 28 Maret 2008 11:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Perhatikan BUMI diturunin ke 6250, IHSG turun ke 2455 +4... CORE of the MARKET SENTIMEN ada di BUMI --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang paling penting BUMI... Saat ini BUMI 6350, jika BUMI turun lagi, artinya BOZZ engga mau NAEKIN ihsg lebih tinggi lagi... Saat ini IHSG 2470 +18... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX™ alxtrader@ wrote: Perlu satu hari ini lagi aja buat pertahankan momentum... Mdh2an bisa tutup hijau BULL !!! BULL !!! EFFENDI !!! -- Salam ALX™ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15
Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BIG VOLUME on BOTTOM, mohon tuntunan
Eeemmm bisa kena UU ITE... Apa vivid ni temenya Mike yang punya apartemen itu ya? :D --- kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yah jangan keterusan gelisah lah pak.., tuh BB17 aje udah Almarhum skrg.. kekekekekek --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah nubie jadi batal jumat' an. tiap kali liat ini nick, nubie jadi gelisah. mengingatkan pada apaan gt. vividtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Klo menurut kalian, aku ini cewek apa cowok? Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] GO BEI 2500
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[obrolan-bandar] MITI udah naek tinggi. besok MYRX ???
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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
Pak Tbumi.
Bapak main saham di Indonesia sejak tahun berapa.
Lukman
- Pesan Asli
Dari: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 28 Maret, 2008 13:53:37
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana Yang Harus BEI Ikuti???
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bill Jone
coll.me.bill@
wrote:
Pak Tbumi,
Tanya apakah MEDCO bisa di colect buat long term 3-4 thn?
Terimakasih.
SIP : TBUMI
Saham MEDC masih termasuk bagus utk LT, karena MEDC masih banyak
ada proyek di Libya dan Timur Tengah. Sebenarnya ENRG juga bagus,
tapi kasus Lapindo yg menjadi pikiran kami.
Beli saat ini kemudian disimpan beberapa tahun, setelah itu boleh
dikeluari barangnya utk daily trading. Jadi diposisi ini, para
investor selalu diposisi yg untung nantinya, dan hanya mengikuti
arus market disaat tsb.
Contoh sajalah : saham X beli dgn harga Rp. 300 di tahun 2003,
sedangkan di tahun 2008 pernah di harga tertinggi Rp. 3'500.
Karena ada resesi yg panjang, ternyata X turun jadi Rp. 2'800
di hari H.
Utk daily trading :
- pemasangan berapa point dimarket, investor boleh lihat market
regional naik atau turun berapa persen.
- Jika rebound tipis , maka pasanglah satu, dua dan tiga
point diatas harga penutupan kemarin (bukanlah harga tertinggi,
penurunan kemarin).
Contoh : penutupan X tgl 27-03-2008 di 2'750(beli) / 2'800 (jual)
sedang harga tertingginya di Rp. 2'900 dan terendah di Rp. 2'600.
Jika 28-03-08 market regional rebound tipis dan pemain ingin jual
10 Lot saham X, maka pasanglah jual di 2'825 (3lot), 2'850 (3lot)
dan 2'875 (4lot). Bila regional rebound sedang, maka pakai 2,3
dan 4 point diatas penutupan kemarin. Rebound banyak, pakai
diatas 3,4 dan 5 point dari harga kemarin.
Bila regional merah, pakai sistim diatas tapi kebalikannya yaitu
dijual cepat disaat pembukaan dan beli kembali jika sdh terjadi
koleksi harga. Tapi jangan lupa, jika begitu buka sdh terjadi
koreksi 5 point, maka lebih baik jangan dijual dulu karena
turunnya sdh sangat banyak, ini berarti dihari tsb tak ada
rezeki utk dapat uang.
Ambil untung tipis saja, yg terpenting frekquensi untung
meningkat. Dlm satu bulan bursa buka 20 hari kerja,
bila selama 20 hari kerja, investor dpt 6 kali saja dgn pakai
sistim selisih 3 point saja, maka pemain sdh bisa cuan hampir
10% per bulan(modal 10jt, dpt untung 1.5% bersih per trade ini
sdh Rp. 150'000. Bila 6 kali dpt perbulan maka sdh Rp. 900'000.
Kan sdh hampir 10% dari Rp. 10 jt. Daripada harap dpt Rp. 900'000
untung per transaksi, ini sdh namanya mimpi).
Di posting kami beberapa hari dulu, banyak yg
kaget dgn angka 10% ini dan tak percaya sekali bahwa kami bisa
cuan 10% per bulan tanpa CL dan bahkan nge short barang.
Jadi sangat sederhana saja cari cuan di bursa saham, asal
sabar menunggu, tak serakah dan ambil profit tipis asal
frequensi cuan selalu meningkat saja.
Bila regional naik / turun, maka saham BC di BEI geraknya
juga sekitar plus minus 3 - 5 point saja dari harga kemarin.
Bila tak percaya, boleh diperhatikan saja beberapa saham BC
tsb mulai hari ini sampai minggu depan nanti.
Bila sdh cuan, janganlah lupa menolong kaum yg miskin.
Pakai cara tradisional saja utk cuan, tak usah pusing pakai
sistim Elaine dgn segunung analisanya.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000-nya??? kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Entar dulu ah pak tsunaminya., nanggung.., Bentarrr lg dehhh.. 3 Jagoan lagi belon keluar rapotnya (BUMI,TLKM,PTBA).. kan nge-set label harganya belon beress nihh... bentar yah bentar.. duh ni BUMI en TLKM yg jd panggung utama malah ga nongol2 lagih.. bentarlaah pak.. biar kalo drop nanti borongnya gak asa-asa gituh pak... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done already. Ready for the next big Tsunami... the -200 points ... :D 2008/3/28 Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] J-Power Secures 90% FY08 Coal; Price Remains An Issue...
DJ FOCUS:J-Power Secures 90% FY08 Coal; Price Remains An Issue By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J-Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to supply Australian thermal coal at $135 a ton for the next fiscal year, Dow Jones Newswires reported earlier. Chubu Electric has also rejected Xstrata PLC's offer of $125/ton. Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tough times for Vietnam's industria l sector
Indeks saham Vietnam juga ancur. Pernah capai 900 - 1.000, sekarang ada di kisaran 500-an. RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi Sent: 28 Maret 2008 13:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tough times for Vietnam's industrial sector http://www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10newsid=37090 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com image001.gifimage002.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
Kang, Aussie-ers minta Jepang bayar di atas 120 USD untuk harga kontrak. China-ers ikut2an jual di atas 120 USD. So what will BUMI do? he he Kalau Jepang ga mau harga segitu, BB Jepang dapat dari mana ya? China, Aussie n (mungkin) BUMI juga patok harga segitu kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha, Biasalahh.., namanya jg usaha.. hehehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kang Ocoy ini maunya bocorrraaan terus he heUdah dikasih satu, minta dua. Dikasih dua,minta lima..Capek deh (smile). kemarin kan sudah saya kasih bocoran DoJi Kamis kmarin...Upsss...sorry deh, meleset 10 points he he..BTW, EL ke mana ya? Ok deh buat Kang Ocoy yang top markotop, ntar saya mo gerilya lagi. Sederhana aja Kang. Ngikut price channelnya Pak DE aja. Kalau berani beli AALI n PTB, kenapa ga berani beli BUMI? Pizzz kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo sodorin Thermal BUMI dapetnya di berapa yeh maunya?? ($135 dr Rio en Xstrata $125 gak mao dy) kalo mo barang BUMI en BUMI bisa supply di $100 en bisa deal beneran., ini sayah mau loh beli saham BUMI di 6000... -pak andi, pak FA, biasanya punya info2 terkini masalah Per Batubara- an, skrg Salesnya BUMI andai tawarin Kontrak Thermal Grade PowerPlant Jepang di kisaran berapaan yeh?? atas $90 mepet $100 dapet gak yeh?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rahardjo richardrahardjo@ wrote: By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J- Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu Electric, in the hope it will stand firm in the negotiations. With the next fiscal year starting Tuesday, Japanese utilities are having to buy term coal at tentative prices, and Kitamura feels the price talks may take a few months more. Chubu Electric has rejected Rio Tinto PLC's offer to
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI...Take profit or hold?????
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Fredy Chin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah yg mulia... BUMI nya take profit dl ato gimana mbah? Hold trus ya ?!!! Heheheheh.. BUMI tadi mencapai 6500 yaitu target 1 http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png Ini hari PENENTUANnya buat BUMI dan IHSG Jika BUMI bisa bertahan ampe closing, berarti CAPITAL INFLOW positif lagi, dan seharusnya GEDE karena BUMI adalah HEAVY WEIGHT BC... Tapi jika BUMI diturunin pada saat closing berarti kenaikan IHSG untuk sementara stop dulu. Kenaikan BUMI menunjukan KAMAUAN REKSADANA untuk BUY BACK BUMI kembali.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Setau saya (atau saya mulai pikun), sampai hari ini market cap terbesar masih dipegang TLKM, baru no. 2 BUMI dan no.3 ASII CMIIW Steve Kosasih wrote: Make a lot of sense karena BUMI adalah perusahaan dengan market cap terbesar di IDX. Kalo bumi goyang IDX ikut goyang pastinya, dan mustinya IDX akan lebih banyak goyangnya kalo BUMI yang goyang dibanding kalo yang lain goyang juga dengan goyangan yang sama. Selamat bergoyang this weekend!
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tough times for Vietnam's industrial sector
Kok IDX mo ikutan ancur? Pan IDX punya natural-resource based kompenis Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeks saham Vietnam juga ancur. Pernah capai 900 - 1.000, sekarang ada di kisaran 500-an. RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi Sent: 28 Maret 2008 13:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tough times for Vietnams industrial sector http://www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10newsid=37090 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Current term prices between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are around $55 a ton
Deal di $105 jg udah sama-sama-senang-l dan Investor jg senang pastinyaaa.. hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kang, Aussie-ers minta Jepang bayar di atas 120 USD untuk harga kontrak. China-ers ikut2an jual di atas 120 USD. So what will BUMI do? he he Kalau Jepang ga mau harga segitu, BB Jepang dapat dari mana ya? China, Aussie n (mungkin) BUMI juga patok harga segitu kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha, Biasalahh.., namanya jg usaha.. hehehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ wrote: Kang Ocoy ini maunya bocorrraaan terus he heUdah dikasih satu, minta dua. Dikasih dua,minta lima..Capek deh (smile). kemarin kan sudah saya kasih bocoran DoJi Kamis kmarin...Upsss...sorry deh, meleset 10 points he he..BTW, EL ke mana ya? Ok deh buat Kang Ocoy yang top markotop, ntar saya mo gerilya lagi. Sederhana aja Kang. Ngikut price channelnya Pak DE aja. Kalau berani beli AALI n PTB, kenapa ga berani beli BUMI? Pizzz kang_ocoy_maen_saham kang_ocoy_maen_saham@ wrote: Kalo sodorin Thermal BUMI dapetnya di berapa yeh maunya?? ($135 dr Rio en Xstrata $125 gak mao dy) kalo mo barang BUMI en BUMI bisa supply di $100 en bisa deal beneran., ini sayah mau loh beli saham BUMI di 6000... -pak andi, pak FA, biasanya punya info2 terkini masalah Per Batubara- an, skrg Salesnya BUMI andai tawarin Kontrak Thermal Grade PowerPlant Jepang di kisaran berapaan yeh?? atas $90 mepet $100 dapet gak yeh?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rahardjo richardrahardjo@ wrote: By Mari Iwata Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Japan's largest thermal coal buyer said Friday it has already lined up around 90% of the coal it will need for the next fiscal year starting April 1. Electric Power Development Co. (9513.TO), better known as J- Power, has secured about 90% its annual coal needs - about 20 million metric tons - despite continued tight supply in the Asia Pacific coal market, Executive Vice President Masayoshi Kitamura said. Although agreements on volumes have mostly been worked out, prices are still only tentative, pending conclusion of talks between Australian suppliers and some Japanese utilities, which act as a benchmark for Japan's coal purchases. We have diversified sources, buying more from countries like Indonesia, South Africa and Russia, said Kitamura. Coal prices have soared in the Asia-Pacific market in the past year, driven by rising demand from India and China, and more recently by a temporary Chinese ban on coal exports. About 10% of the coal used by Japan last year came from China. In addition, bad weather and infrastructure bottlenecks have curbed output from Australia, the source of some 60% of Japan's coal imports. Although J-Power has kept receiving coal exports from China since its export ban was imposed in February, the company feels China won't maintain previous export levels to Japan in the future, said Kitamura. Term supply volumes from China to Japan in the fiscal year ending on March 31 were cut by roughly 40% below the contracted minimum supply obligation of 7.3 million tons, according to Japan Coal Development Co., a coal trade joint venture owned by 10 major Japanese utilities. Accordingly, J-Power has been lining up alternative supplies for the next fiscal year, he added. The company has a policy of not disclosing details of where it gets its coal from. But Australia is the source for about half, with China and Indonesia minor but important complementary suppliers, according to another company official, who asked not to be named. Japan's 10 regional power utilities together burn about 51 million tons of thermal coal a year, about 60% of it coming from Australia, according to data from the Federation of Electric Power Companies Japan. The figure excludes J-Power's purchases. Above or Below $100 But price talks are still far from being settled, said Kitagawa. Chubu Electric Power Co., Japan's third largest power utility by capacity and second-largest thermal coal buyer, is still in negotiations with Australian suppliers on the price it will pay for fiscal 2008 supplies. Chubu Electric has been holding out for prices below $100 a ton, Kitagawa noted. Since Chubu's term prices are widely used as a benchmark for Japanese utilities, the other utilities are encouraging Chubu
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
mudah2an. 3 white soldier kalo ampe senin, jual selasa bro ambil exit strategi yg bagus..., katalisnya : lk bumi blon keluar... diyakinin bagus tuh..., cmiiw 2008/3/28, Ah Cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yakin Bro? tadi gw ambil di 6.500, kok makin turun ya? On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Bill Jone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenaikan bumi riil..., gak ada yg menghilang dadakan di ofr..., ampe 2 hari trade day ke depan bisa naik. Pada tanggal 28/03/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Biang kerok waktu bumi jatuh, sdh mulai belanja.., lumayan banyak. Hmmm…. Ave naik terus…, next R3 6516 Salam, JsxTrader *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nyangkuters Nyangkut *Sent:* 28 Maret 2008 11:37 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Kalo gitu Mari Kita Kemon Jangan sampe Gagal maning - gagal maning Iya ora son? Salam Nyangkuters - Original Message From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:26:45 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG BUMI R2 6333, R1 6216.., banyak kejadian di 6250, average sdh 6239, indicator mengarah keatas semua, kalau ave hari ini bisa diatas 6250 kecenderungan untuk naik lebih besar. Let's see Salam, JsxTrader -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 28 Maret 2008 11:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Perhatikan BUMI diturunin ke 6250, IHSG turun ke 2455 +4... CORE of the MARKET SENTIMEN ada di BUMI --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang paling penting BUMI... Saat ini BUMI 6350, jika BUMI turun lagi, artinya BOZZ engga mau NAEKIN ihsg lebih tinggi lagi... Saat ini IHSG 2470 +18... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX™ alxtrader@ wrote: Perlu satu hari ini lagi aja buat pertahankan momentum... Mdh2an bisa tutup hijau BULL !!! BULL !!! EFFENDI !!! -- Salam ALX™ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15
Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT
Semua saham kan bisa naik dan turun, kalau dibandingin ama yang nyangkut ya kasian dong. BRPT pernah kasih saya profit 100% dalam 2 minggu. Sekarang BRPT saya ga nyangkut malah untung banget mau dibuang kelaut mana. Market Cap BRPT mohon dilihat dulu. Banyak yang rugi kok malah disukurin. Ini masukan aja berapa banyak orang yg hold di harga bawah. Selamet kalau anda bisa untung di group Lippo. Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hahaha..terima kasih LPKR nya ga di turunin... BRPT buang aja kelaut..let the propit RUNN... - Original Message - From: xxx xxx To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT TMPI dulu sebelum kejadian ancur-2an jg begitu. history Chartnya cantik sekali,..tapi abis itu kaboom Kita nggk bisa cuman liat historynya...Lha history chart jg bisa dibuat. Tapi y, semoga saja analisa saya yg salah, jadi anda tidak mengalami kerugian 2008/3/19 Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: beruntung ? saya rasa tidak. coba anda liat history LPKR. dia akan nanjak sampai titik jenuh dia baru konsolidasi.lama.trus SS. liat saja... - Original Message - From: xxx xxx To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT BRPT itu ya sejenis dengan LPKR mas...hanya saja anda beruntung, karena LPKR masih terbang,..nanti kalo sudah tiba waktunya, mereka jg akan ngerampok...hati-2 saja 2008/3/19 Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yg sangkut di BRPT.jangan sedih saya ini paling bodoh kalo boleh dibilang. waktu BRPT masih 2200.saya switch LPKR saya yg 720 ke BRPT sebagian itu adalah kesalahan terbesar dan terbodohskr liat LPKR dan BRPT... LPKR let the profit RUN...BRPT.simpan di bantal aja..alias let the loss RUN jadi buat yg sangkut di BRPT.jangan sedihada yg lebih bodoh dari anda...yaitu saya memang BRPT ini saham siluman yang doyan rampok regards, frendy - Sent from Yahoo! Mail. More Ways to Keep in Touch.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
yang utuh yg 200rb ya pak ? hehehe :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000-nya???
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Value transaksi BUMI setiap hari bisa 3 sampai 6 kali TLKM ,pak. Jadi pengaruh BUMI terhadap IHSG lebih signifikan.CMIIW Regards. - Original Message - From: Bong Mi Yun To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Setau saya (atau saya mulai pikun), sampai hari ini market cap terbesar masih dipegang TLKM, baru no. 2 BUMI dan no.3 ASII CMIIW Steve Kosasih wrote: Make a lot of sense karena BUMI adalah perusahaan dengan market cap terbesar di IDX. Kalo bumi goyang IDX ikut goyang pastinya, dan mustinya IDX akan lebih banyak goyangnya kalo BUMI yang goyang dibanding kalo yang lain goyang juga dengan goyangan yang sama. Selamat bergoyang this weekend!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI...Take profit or hold?????
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Fredy Chin fredy_chin@ wrote: Embah yg mulia... BUMI nya take profit dl ato gimana mbah? Hold trus ya ?!!! Heheheheh.. BUMI tadi mencapai 6500 yaitu target 1 http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png Ini hari PENENTUANnya buat BUMI dan IHSG Jika BUMI bisa bertahan ampe closing, berarti CAPITAL INFLOW positif lagi, dan seharusnya GEDE karena BUMI adalah HEAVY WEIGHT BC... Tapi jika BUMI diturunin pada saat closing berarti kenaikan IHSG untuk sementara stop dulu. Kenaikan BUMI menunjukan KAMAUAN REKSADANA untuk BUY BACK BUMI kembali. Thx u Embah.for the lesson..
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI...Take profit or hold?????
Noted mBah, thanks. Tuh teman2 katanya mBah, buat yang Short Term, kalau mau keluar dulu silahkan, tapi bubar yang tertib, jangan buat keramaian. (kalau nanti closing BUMI diturunin). buat yang longterm, Optimis sajalah! salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BUMI tadi mencapai 6500 yaitu target 1 http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png Ini hari PENENTUANnya buat BUMI dan IHSG Jika BUMI bisa bertahan ampe closing, berarti CAPITAL INFLOW positif lagi, dan seharusnya GEDE karena BUMI adalah HEAVY WEIGHT BC... Tapi jika BUMI diturunin pada saat closing berarti kenaikan IHSG untuk sementara stop dulu. Kenaikan BUMI menunjukan KAMAUAN REKSADANA untuk BUY BACK BUMI kembali.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Kalo gitu saya punya trading tips utk bapak... Jangan Trading sambil Baca OB 'berbahaya' Pak!! ...he..he..he Salam, JsxTrader --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000-nya??? kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Entar dulu ah pak tsunaminya., nanggung.., Bentarrr lg dehhh.. 3 Jagoan lagi belon keluar rapotnya (BUMI,TLKM,PTBA).. kan nge-set label harganya belon beress nihh... bentar yah bentar.. duh ni BUMI en TLKM yg jd panggung utama malah ga nongol2 lagih.. bentarlaah pak.. biar kalo drop nanti borongnya gak asa-asa gituh pak... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: Done already. Ready for the next big Tsunami... the -200 points ... :D 2008/3/28 Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@: Tapi saya profit taking tadi (porto trading). Boleh ya.. :) Alasan: Fibo. Lumayan lah buat beli popok bayi hehe..fyi, yang LT masih utuh. Regards, DE - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Sejak januari 2008(input sampel mulai 1 januari 2008) Beta BUMI kalo pake time series daily 1.565, kalo pake weekly 2.0276 sementara Beta TLKM kalo time series daily 0.767 dan kalo weekly 0.597 kekekekek.. jd emang bener2 big cap di sisi mover ihsg ya si BUMI ini, TLKM malah coba2 menetralisir --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Value transaksi BUMI setiap hari bisa 3 sampai 6 kali TLKM ,pak. Jadi pengaruh BUMI terhadap IHSG lebih signifikan.CMIIW Regards. - Original Message - From: Bong Mi Yun To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Setau saya (atau saya mulai pikun), sampai hari ini market cap terbesar masih dipegang TLKM, baru no. 2 BUMI dan no.3 ASII CMIIW Steve Kosasih wrote: Make a lot of sense karena BUMI adalah perusahaan dengan market cap terbesar di IDX. Kalo bumi goyang IDX ikut goyang pastinya, dan mustinya IDX akan lebih banyak goyangnya kalo BUMI yang goyang dibanding kalo yang lain goyang juga dengan goyangan yang sama. Selamat bergoyang this weekend!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: GO BEI 2500
katanya ada yg mau bikin -20 kalau salah suruh nungging aja..! :) salam mrA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kabu Nusi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sistem Kebut Se-jam, ayoo hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini deadline!!! - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT
Mbok ya diliat dulu postingan saya sebelumnya saya juga punya BRPT 2000.skr lagi emosi aja liat harga 2000... - Original Message - From: Tigran Denre Sonda To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT Semua saham kan bisa naik dan turun, kalau dibandingin ama yang nyangkut ya kasian dong. BRPT pernah kasih saya profit 100% dalam 2 minggu. Sekarang BRPT saya ga nyangkut malah untung banget mau dibuang kelaut mana. Market Cap BRPT mohon dilihat dulu. Banyak yang rugi kok malah disukurin. Ini masukan aja berapa banyak orang yg hold di harga bawah. Selamet kalau anda bisa untung di group Lippo. Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahaha..terima kasih LPKR nya ga di turunin... BRPT buang aja kelaut..let the propit RUNN... - Original Message - From: xxx xxx To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT TMPI dulu sebelum kejadian ancur-2an jg begitu. history Chartnya cantik sekali,..tapi abis itu kaboom Kita nggk bisa cuman liat historynya...Lha history chart jg bisa dibuat. Tapi y, semoga saja analisa saya yg salah, jadi anda tidak mengalami kerugian 2008/3/19 Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: beruntung ? saya rasa tidak. coba anda liat history LPKR. dia akan nanjak sampai titik jenuh dia baru konsolidasi.lama.trus SS. liat saja... - Original Message - From: xxx xxx To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat yg sangkut BRPT BRPT itu ya sejenis dengan LPKR mas...hanya saja anda beruntung, karena LPKR masih terbang,..nanti kalo sudah tiba waktunya, mereka jg akan ngerampok...hati-2 saja 2008/3/19 Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yg sangkut di BRPT.jangan sedih saya ini paling bodoh kalo boleh dibilang. waktu BRPT masih 2200.saya switch LPKR saya yg 720 ke BRPT sebagian itu adalah kesalahan terbesar dan terbodohskr liat LPKR dan BRPT... LPKR let the profit RUN...BRPT.simpan di bantal aja..alias let the loss RUN jadi buat yg sangkut di BRPT.jangan sedihada yg lebih bodoh dari anda...yaitu saya memang BRPT ini saham siluman yang doyan rampok regards, frendy -- Sent from Yahoo! Mail. More Ways to Keep in Touch.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gw paling demen nih baca postingan pak DE kalo judulnya udah Bukan ajakan... Saya juga pak, porto trading (se-iprit) sdh cash out, LT still utuh. TAPI, semoga index naik terus jangan molor kebawah lagi dah! Wah pak Rei sudah jadi trader rupanya... punya porto trading... tercapai juga cita-citanya yah pak... jadi trader... hehehe...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Tapi yang nyumbang ke index bukan VOLUME TRANSAKSI melainkan prosentase kenaikan /penurunan saham yang bersangkutan Kalo sama2 naik 2% misalnya, maka sumbangan tlkm lebih besar terhadap IHSG dibandingkan BUMI, walaupun transaksi BUMI 2 T dan TLKM 1M. Masalah volume transaksi, dulu waktu TMPI masih rame juga sering diatas 1 T CMIIW Heryadi wrote: Value transaksi BUMI setiap hari bisa 3 sampai 6 kali TLKM ,pak. Jadi pengaruh BUMI terhadap IHSG lebih signifikan.CMIIW Regards. - Original Message - *From:* Bong Mi Yun mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2008 3:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Setau saya (atau saya mulai pikun), sampai hari ini market cap terbesar masih dipegang TLKM, baru no. 2 BUMI dan no.3 ASII CMIIW Steve Kosasih wrote: Make a lot of sense karena BUMI adalah perusahaan dengan market cap terbesar di IDX. Kalo bumi goyang IDX ikut goyang pastinya, dan mustinya IDX akan lebih banyak goyangnya kalo BUMI yang goyang dibanding kalo yang lain goyang juga dengan goyangan yang sama. Selamat bergoyang this weekend!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Defisit Anggaran gara2 minyak en pangan jg nyeremin tuh., kalo bisa ampe kejadian skenario asem (mudah2an engga) kombinasi kenaikan BBM + Kenaikan BI Rate diambil.. wah yg long term bisa ikutan ruwet jg tuhh. (loh ko jd ikutan pesimis gini? ;P.. ga laah, saya optimis inflasi mudah2an mereda (amieen) krn kalo semua2 naek trus kesian donk rakyat jelata...) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Ahmad, Coba bapak cari2 postingan pak Oen tgl. 19-22 Maret mengenai tsunami ini. Semoga saja tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat, tapi kalo amerika masih digonjang-ganjing masalah kredit, kemungkinan besar tsunami masih sangat mungkin diberikan oleh bozz. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote: Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni jv_pam2_01@ wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000- nya???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Tsunami BURSA tidak terjadi TIBA TIBA: - Umumnya terjadi sesudah para bandar CUCI GUDANG... - Grafik IHSG sering tidak menunjukan POTENSI tsunami karena para bandar bisa CUCI GUDANG dan ihsg dibikin relatif diam. Jadi sering sering aja liat grafik CAPITAL FLOW embah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Ahmad, Coba bapak cari2 postingan pak Oen tgl. 19-22 Maret mengenai tsunami ini. Semoga saja tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat, tapi kalo amerika masih digonjang-ganjing masalah kredit, kemungkinan besar tsunami masih sangat mungkin diberikan oleh bozz. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote: Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni jv_pam2_01@ wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000- nya???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Ada pak Boyz, tapi cuma cukup buat makan di KFC...sapa tahu lama2 bisa buat makan di Shangrila! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Gw paling demen nih baca postingan pak DE kalo judulnya udah Bukan ajakan... Saya juga pak, porto trading (se-iprit) sdh cash out, LT still utuh. TAPI, semoga index naik terus jangan molor kebawah lagi dah! Wah pak Rei sudah jadi trader rupanya... punya porto trading... tercapai juga cita-citanya yah pak... jadi trader... hehehe...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: GO BEI 2500
Salah ketik kali maksudnya +20 hehe ngeles.net tapi gpp, saya dulu juga suka main tebak-tebakan gitu.. untung kagak disuruh nungging ahaha.. Regards, DE 2008/3/28 arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: katanya ada yg mau bikin -20 kalau salah suruh nungging aja..! :) salam mrA
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
itu dia pak rei...apa iya bozz itu punya kekuatan sebesar itu?? maaf pak bukan bermaksud menyinggung..tp saya baca postingan pak oen sepertinya dia merasa sangat dekat dgn yg namanya bozz...bukankah tiap pemain besar ga akan kasih tw rencannya?? kalaupun iya seberapa besar kekatannya sehingga bs mngarahkan market?? y kita lihat saja deh...toh psti tiap trader udh punya jurus masing2 dan udh mngerti batasan2 cutloss jd klopun terjadi udh siap apa yg hrs dilakukan Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Ahmad, Coba bapak cari2 postingan pak Oen tgl. 19-22 Maret mengenai tsunami ini. Semoga saja tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat, tapi kalo amerika masih digonjang-ganjing masalah kredit, kemungkinan besar tsunami masih sangat mungkin diberikan oleh bozz. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni jv_pam2_01@ wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000-nya??? - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Mbah, biar bagaimanapun yg paling penting adalah petuah2 dan bimbingan Mbah buat cucumu semua di milis. We're with you!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tsunami BURSA tidak terjadi TIBA TIBA: - Umumnya terjadi sesudah para bandar CUCI GUDANG... - Grafik IHSG sering tidak menunjukan POTENSI tsunami karena para bandar bisa CUCI GUDANG dan ihsg dibikin relatif diam. Jadi sering sering aja liat grafik CAPITAL FLOW embah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Pak Ahmad, Coba bapak cari2 postingan pak Oen tgl. 19-22 Maret mengenai tsunami ini. Semoga saja tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat, tapi kalo amerika masih digonjang-ganjing masalah kredit, kemungkinan besar tsunami masih sangat mungkin diberikan oleh bozz. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote: Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni jv_pam2_01@ wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000- nya???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG
Weigh BUMI di indeks 7% sementara TLKM 10%, Beta Bumi 1.56 Beta TLKM 0.76. artinya 0.1092 (BUMI) Versus 0.076 (TLKM), which means sejak Januari Index Mover ada di BUMI sementara TLKM malah menetralisir keliaran BUMI... kira2 secara Efficient-market begitu.. sayah ga ahli sih urusan begini.., Mbah Bantuin Mbah secra Bandarmologinya donk Mbah.. hehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bong Mi Yun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi yang nyumbang ke index bukan VOLUME TRANSAKSI melainkan prosentase kenaikan /penurunan saham yang bersangkutan Kalo sama2 naik 2% misalnya, maka sumbangan tlkm lebih besar terhadap IHSG dibandingkan BUMI, walaupun transaksi BUMI 2 T dan TLKM 1M. Masalah volume transaksi, dulu waktu TMPI masih rame juga sering diatas 1 T CMIIW Heryadi wrote: Value transaksi BUMI setiap hari bisa 3 sampai 6 kali TLKM ,pak. Jadi pengaruh BUMI terhadap IHSG lebih signifikan.CMIIW Regards. - Original Message - *From:* Bong Mi Yun mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, March 28, 2008 3:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Momentum + BUMI --- NASIB IHSG Setau saya (atau saya mulai pikun), sampai hari ini market cap terbesar masih dipegang TLKM, baru no. 2 BUMI dan no.3 ASII CMIIW Steve Kosasih wrote: Make a lot of sense karena BUMI adalah perusahaan dengan market cap terbesar di IDX. Kalo bumi goyang IDX ikut goyang pastinya, dan mustinya IDX akan lebih banyak goyangnya kalo BUMI yang goyang dibanding kalo yang lain goyang juga dengan goyangan yang sama. Selamat bergoyang this weekend!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: GO BEI 2500
hehehe... Ambil kesimpulan masing-2 aja deh ... bikin -20 aja kagak bisa apalagi mau bikin indeks ke 2000 hehehe ... ada-ada aja ... salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salah ketik kali maksudnya +20 hehe ngeles.net tapi gpp, saya dulu juga suka main tebak-tebakan gitu.. untung kagak disuruh nungging ahaha.. Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Ya itu lah pak, no one knows...nggak ada yg tahu pasti akan gimana, cuma ada desas desus. Semoga masing2 sdh punya plan u/ portfolio masing2. Cuma saya juga bingung, kenapa mesti ada crash/tsunami/gempa/turbulence LAGI? Kan sdh 2 kali tahun ini: Januari dan Maret. Pak Oen? Gimana nih resistance masih 2500-2600? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: itu dia pak rei...apa iya bozz itu punya kekuatan sebesar itu?? maaf pak bukan bermaksud menyinggung..tp saya baca postingan pak oen sepertinya dia merasa sangat dekat dgn yg namanya bozz...bukankah tiap pemain besar ga akan kasih tw rencannya?? kalaupun iya seberapa besar kekatannya sehingga bs mngarahkan market?? y kita lihat saja deh...toh psti tiap trader udh punya jurus masing2 dan udh mngerti batasan2 cutloss jd klopun terjadi udh siap apa yg hrs dilakukan Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Ahmad, Coba bapak cari2 postingan pak Oen tgl. 19-22 Maret mengenai tsunami ini. Semoga saja tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat, tapi kalo amerika masih digonjang-ganjing masalah kredit, kemungkinan besar tsunami masih sangat mungkin diberikan oleh bozz. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote: Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni jv_pam2_01@ wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000- nya??? - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan...
Pak Ahmad, Coba bapak cari2 postingan pak Oen tgl. 19-22 Maret mengenai tsunami ini. Semoga saja tidak terjadi dalam waktu dekat, tapi kalo amerika masih digonjang-ganjing masalah kredit, kemungkinan besar tsunami masih sangat mungkin diberikan oleh bozz. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tya tuh pak, marahin aja tuh pak abdulrahim... Emang dia tuh yang suka bikin tsunami di IDX... Gara-2 dia jualan makanya IHSG melorot. -kompor mledug mode ON- kekekek... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad zulfahni jv_pam2_01@ wrote: dear all kok saya rada kesel y klo tiap baca posting2an yg bilang akan ada big tsunami...saya tw mngkin itu peringatan..tp kan y optimis ajalah..lagipula apa y harus kita lakukan?/ apa iy harus bersihin portofolio?/ lalu gmn dgn yg portofolionya masih baru2 ambil??? sepertinya bertia2 itu ga ada abisnya...kehancuran market seperti kmarin aja udh bikin bnyak trader yg jantungan apa msih ada lagi?? kapan donk naiknya?? please klo mw kasih imbauan atau peringatan alasan2nya mesti jelas..jgn cuma bilang akan ada big tsunami gitu doank...toh secara tehnikal juga br tehnikal rebound..trus rata2 lap-keu yg kluar oke2...klo ampe turun lagi pnyebabnya apa?? kapan level 3000-nya???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: GO BEI 2500
Sebetulnya dua-duanya salah kq Pak Boyz :D Btw, Mbah, Bumi tutup di 6450, tidak berhasil melewati 6500...gimana? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehehe... Ambil kesimpulan masing-2 aja deh ... bikin -20 aja kagak bisa apalagi mau bikin indeks ke 2000 hehehe ... ada-ada aja ... salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ wrote: Salah ketik kali maksudnya +20 hehe ngeles.net tapi gpp, saya dulu juga suka main tebak-tebakan gitu.. untung kagak disuruh nungging ahaha.. Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] Re: GO BEI 2500
3 hari terakhir ini BEI ditutup selalu degan tarikan kuat di sesi akhir. Tapi tetap waspada yng teman2, soalnya waktu cras I juga sperti ini, DOW mewah kita ijo, walau dulu NIKKEI ikut meah juga... Tetap Waspadalah... BUMI udah tembus resistem I di 6250, tinggal 1 konfirmasi lagi 6500.. Dan yang berikutnya 7000. SENIN ayo, kita bikin ijo lagi ampe Resisten di 2525 terlewati GO BEI... Go Commodity...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] U-25 OB-ers
Bener 2008/3/28, jko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Iseng-iseng jumat lunch break, collect data anggota U-25 OB-ers.. Jadi makin semangatt.. 1.Kang Ocoy (1998 smp) 2.Elaine (self stated..seumuran Kang Ocoy.. considered?) 3.Vivid 4.Hendrik_lww...? 5.Feli...? 6.Jko (me) Bener gak ya.. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
