Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 10/11/2012 12:11 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:

So here's where we are with the consultants listing:

1) XLST script, data file, strings for en and it are checked in under
ooo-site/content/bizdev/consultants

2) Announcement to ooo-dev/ooo-users/forums/twitter/google+/facebook
(but not ooo-announce since that is almost all end-users)

3) Blog post

4) I also went through the legacy consultant listings and reviewed the
websites of the English-speaking entities.  Where one appeared to
still be relevant I sent them an email and pointed them to the new
listing instructions and invited them to submit a new listing.  This
was a judgement call, but generally if the website was still up and I
found an explicit mention of OpenOffice services then I considered it
relevant.  But if it was just a generic IT services company with no
mention of OpenOffice then I did not send an invite. Of course,
nothing prevents them from submitting a listing, and if they do we
review it like any other.

5) What we have so far is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html

Note, there are more coming.  One was posted to the list today that I
need to check in.  And there are a few more were I was emailed that
they were interested and would submit a listing.

So areas where I could use help:

1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
or so per language.

2 (less urgent) At some point we might enable the automatic generation
of the HTML from the XML + XSLT.  Since I don't speak Perl I'm going
to need someone else to tackle this.

Thanks!

-Rob


I've committet a localized version for DE.

Marcus


Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 11/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

So areas where I could use help:
1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
especially needed.


Just post a quick request in English to ooo-progetto-it: I'll moderate 
it through, adding a brief explanation, and we will surely find 
volunteers who can take care of this.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
 Hello Rob,

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 So areas where I could use help:

 1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
 should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
 especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
 the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
 or so per language.

 I think I can help you with the german consultants. I already know most of 
 the german consultants personally, for example, all on:
 http://www.frodev.org/dienstleister


Thanks.  I will email you the spreadsheet with the German listings.

Is anyone able to help with French, Italian or Spanish?

-Rob


 Greetings,
 Jörg



Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Sylvain DENIS

Hello,

I can help in french ;)

greetings

Sylvain DENIS

Le 11/10/12 19:05, Rob Weir a écrit :

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:

Hello Rob,


From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
So areas where I could use help:

1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
or so per language.

I think I can help you with the german consultants. I already know most of the 
german consultants personally, for example, all on:
http://www.frodev.org/dienstleister


Thanks.  I will email you the spreadsheet with the German listings.

Is anyone able to help with French, Italian or Spanish?

-Rob


Greetings,
Jörg





Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Sylvain DENIS
sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can help in french ;)

 greetings

So good.

Volunteers are showing up (:

-- 
Albino


Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Sylvain DENIS
sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I can help in french ;)


Thanks.  Look for a note direct from me in a few minutes.

-Rob


 greetings

 Sylvain DENIS

 Le 11/10/12 19:05, Rob Weir a écrit :

 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de
 wrote:

 Hello Rob,

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 So areas where I could use help:

 1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
 should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
 especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
 the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
 or so per language.

 I think I can help you with the german consultants. I already know most
 of the german consultants personally, for example, all on:
 http://www.frodev.org/dienstleister

 Thanks.  I will email you the spreadsheet with the German listings.

 Is anyone able to help with French, Italian or Spanish?

 -Rob

 Greetings,
 Jörg




Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-10 Thread Rob Weir
So here's where we are with the consultants listing:

1) XLST script, data file, strings for en and it are checked in under
ooo-site/content/bizdev/consultants

2) Announcement to ooo-dev/ooo-users/forums/twitter/google+/facebook
(but not ooo-announce since that is almost all end-users)

3) Blog post

4) I also went through the legacy consultant listings and reviewed the
websites of the English-speaking entities.  Where one appeared to
still be relevant I sent them an email and pointed them to the new
listing instructions and invited them to submit a new listing.  This
was a judgement call, but generally if the website was still up and I
found an explicit mention of OpenOffice services then I considered it
relevant.  But if it was just a generic IT services company with no
mention of OpenOffice then I did not send an invite. Of course,
nothing prevents them from submitting a listing, and if they do we
review it like any other.

5) What we have so far is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html

Note, there are more coming.  One was posted to the list today that I
need to check in.  And there are a few more were I was emailed that
they were interested and would submit a listing.

So areas where I could use help:

1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
or so per language.

2 (less urgent) At some point we might enable the automatic generation
of the HTML from the XML + XSLT.  Since I don't speak Perl I'm going
to need someone else to tackle this.

Thanks!

-Rob


Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-10 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 10/10/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 So here's where we are with the consultants listing:

 1) XLST script, data file, strings for en and it are checked in under
 ooo-site/content/bizdev/consultants

 2) Announcement to ooo-dev/ooo-users/forums/twitter/google+/facebook
 (but not ooo-announce since that is almost all end-users)

 3) Blog post

 4) I also went through the legacy consultant listings and reviewed the
 websites of the English-speaking entities.  Where one appeared to
 still be relevant I sent them an email and pointed them to the new
 listing instructions and invited them to submit a new listing.  This
 was a judgement call, but generally if the website was still up and I
 found an explicit mention of OpenOffice services then I considered it
 relevant.  But if it was just a generic IT services company with no
 mention of OpenOffice then I did not send an invite. Of course,
 nothing prevents them from submitting a listing, and if they do we
 review it like any other.

 5) What we have so far is here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html

 Note, there are more coming.  One was posted to the list today that I
 need to check in.  And there are a few more were I was emailed that
 they were interested and would submit a listing.

 So areas where I could use help:

 1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
 should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
 especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
 the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
 or so per language.

 2 (less urgent) At some point we might enable the automatic generation
 of the HTML from the XML + XSLT.  Since I don't speak Perl I'm going
 to need someone else to tackle this.

I added strings_es.xml for spanish. Isn't this possible to do this in
Python? I thought the server support it.


 Thanks!

 -Rob



-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org


Re: Consultants Directory: Update and Help Needed

2012-10-10 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Rob, 

 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 
 So areas where I could use help:
 
 1) Reviewing the non-English legacy consultants for relevant ones who
 should be invited.  German, French, Italian and Spanish volunteers are
 especially needed.  If you can help I can send you a spreadsheet of
 the websites and an English version of my invitation note.  Maybe 30
 or so per language.

I think I can help you with the german consultants. I already know most of the 
german consultants personally, for example, all on:
http://www.frodev.org/dienstleister


Greetings,
Jörg



Re: [WEBSITE] - help needed to update outdated web content

2012-06-14 Thread Kay Schenk



On 06/13/2012 07:48 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

KG02 - See comments inline.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Grignon
kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:


KG01 - See comments inline.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:


Hi Kevin--


On 06/11/2012 10:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:


Hello All,

I need some help.

Currently the UX page on http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ is outdated.

Please remove all content from this page and insert a link to the new AOO
UX homepage:
http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_**
OpenOffice_User_Experiencehttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience



I can do this for you...but are you sure we should remove the references
to the Specification Project and Accessibility Project also?

I can probably get to this tomorrow.

KG01 - Thanks for your support. As a starting point, I'd like to propose
we consolidate all content in a single trusted source - the new AOO UX
page. We can provide links to Spec Project and Access Projects from this
new AOO UX page, assuming this efforts are active. I'll capture an action
item to ensure that I move over all the relevant, active links.




KG02 - Ok, page contents captured. I will review and create links in new

AOO UX page. Feel free to proceed with clean up. Thanks again for your
help. Clean slate :)



OK -- I can get to this later today...I will just remove all content, 
and link to the new UX wiki site as you requested,








Once we get settled, we can spend some time to create a better UX page
for
www.openoffice.org. However, it is very low priority right now.

Please advise.

Regards,
Kevin



--
--**--**

MzK

There's no crying in baseball!
   -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), A League of Their Own








--

MzK

There's no crying in baseball!
   -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), A League of Their Own


Re: [WEBSITE] - help needed to update outdated web content

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kevin--


 On 06/11/2012 10:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

 Hello All,

 I need some help.

 Currently the UX page on http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ is outdated.

 Please remove all content from this page and insert a link to the new AOO
 UX homepage:
 http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_**
 OpenOffice_User_Experiencehttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience


 I can do this for you...but are you sure we should remove the references
 to the Specification Project and Accessibility Project also?

 I can probably get to this tomorrow.

 KG01 - Thanks for your support. As a starting point, I'd like to propose
 we consolidate all content in a single trusted source - the new AOO UX
 page. We can provide links to Spec Project and Access Projects from this
 new AOO UX page, assuming this efforts are active. I'll capture an action
 item to ensure that I move over all the relevant, active links.



 Once we get settled, we can spend some time to create a better UX page for
 www.openoffice.org. However, it is very low priority right now.

 Please advise.

 Regards,
 Kevin


 --
 --**--**
 
 MzK

 There's no crying in baseball!
   -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), A League of Their Own



Re: [WEBSITE] - help needed to update outdated web content

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - See comments inline.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Grignon
kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:

 KG01 - See comments inline.

 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kevin--


 On 06/11/2012 10:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

 Hello All,

 I need some help.

 Currently the UX page on http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ is outdated.

 Please remove all content from this page and insert a link to the new AOO
 UX homepage:
 http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_**
 OpenOffice_User_Experiencehttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience


 I can do this for you...but are you sure we should remove the references
 to the Specification Project and Accessibility Project also?

 I can probably get to this tomorrow.

 KG01 - Thanks for your support. As a starting point, I'd like to propose
 we consolidate all content in a single trusted source - the new AOO UX
 page. We can provide links to Spec Project and Access Projects from this
 new AOO UX page, assuming this efforts are active. I'll capture an action
 item to ensure that I move over all the relevant, active links.



 KG02 - Ok, page contents captured. I will review and create links in new
AOO UX page. Feel free to proceed with clean up. Thanks again for your
help. Clean slate :)



 Once we get settled, we can spend some time to create a better UX page
 for
 www.openoffice.org. However, it is very low priority right now.

 Please advise.

 Regards,
 Kevin


 --
 --**--**
 
 MzK

 There's no crying in baseball!
   -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), A League of Their Own





Re: [WEBSITE] - help needed to update outdated web content

2012-06-12 Thread Kay Schenk

Hi Kevin--

On 06/11/2012 10:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

Hello All,

I need some help.

Currently the UX page on http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ is outdated.

Please remove all content from this page and insert a link to the new AOO
UX homepage:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience


I can do this for you...but are you sure we should remove the references 
to the Specification Project and Accessibility Project also?


I can probably get to this tomorrow.




Once we get settled, we can spend some time to create a better UX page for
www.openoffice.org. However, it is very low priority right now.

Please advise.

Regards,
Kevin



--

MzK

There's no crying in baseball!
   -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), A League of Their Own


Re: HELP NEEDED: CERTIFICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A TENDER

2012-05-21 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2012-05-20, at 21:22 , Rob Weir wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Miss Cubilla, isn't certifying a platform usable with a software the
 responsibility of the hardware manufacturer? Perhaps I do not understand
 the request.


 If I had to guess, Acer needs to be sure that it has permission to
 copy and redistribute the AOO software.  The attachment (stripped when
 sent to the list, but I have a copy as moderator) was a permission
 that Microsoft granted for X copies of Office that must be fulfilled
 via an authorized Microsoft OEM licensee.

 Of course, we have no such OEM restrictions with AOO.  The license
 permits anyone to copy, modify and redistribute.  In particular,  Acer
 can source directly from us, or from any 3rd party if it is convenient
 to have someone provide additional testing or patch support.

 My experience has also been that government agencies refuse to have anything 
 to do with software unless it passes all the license and operational tests 
 proprietary software sold by a single vendor does. Put another way, it's 
 difficult for these public sector institutions to adopt open source software 
 because it deviates from the very narrow range of permissible options. I've 
 encountered this situation many times, in countries all around the world, 
 including Canada, those of South East Asia, and so on.

 Acer might be able to help her out. But I'd be quite interested to work with 
 her to see if she can still satisfy the government requisites. The fact that 
 the Apache Foundation is a separate and independent foundation with legal 
 status will help her and others in similar situations, but if not this 
 government then others, I know, will likely want to be able to assign 
 liability and other faults to an identifiable legal entity.

 I'd be curious how Apache deals or has dealt with other similar situations. 
 My guess—from downloading enough Apache software in my time—is by not making 
 any claim, save caveat emptor.

Europe has the IDABC eGovernment procurement guidelines that take in
notice the procurement for free open source software.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vq=cache:vUzwKXE0-xcJ:https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/studies/OSS-procurement-guideline-public-final-June2010-EUPL-FINAL.pdf+hl=enpid=blsrcid=ADGEESi3ZJO0Tue68X-1q1YUV5c0X2a4zAM6rKo_aDViCYX0CmwAqqlurLgIBP_i8AAZCHu16ZV6ncpa7IhY21j3erMn-Q9qSYrZjWSu9nvnHlKoB95yTqx4jjalxGx9eEDRM8Txh1lMsig=AHIEtbTOkGC1vI93bIQXwQqwgR64RdhWbw



 -louis

 -Rob

 Thanks for contacting us. As someone who has long championed the use of
 OpenOffice in education, and specifically on netbooks and other portable
 and mobile devices, I'm delighted to learn of your tender. You probably
 know this, and if you do, my apologies, Apache OpenOffice is free to use
 and distribute as you will and is licensed under the Apache License v.2.

 I have not tried Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on the Acer Travelmate. My guess is
 that it works fine. However, issuing a statement to that effect, as a
 System Builder, may pose some logistical problems, as we are an open
 source project composed of numerous groups operating within the Apache
 Software Foundation.

 But your request is important. I'd like therefore to see if this solution
 works for you and the government: A request to test Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 (for Linux, Windows 7, 8) be filed. As we are not a company as such, at
 least not in the ways that Microsoft is, actually obtaining the Acer
 netbooks for the testing could be a problem. Further, there is no saying
 when the test on the Acer machines would be done, as it would depend upon
 the availability of resources. We do not profit from Acer's use of AOO,
 from your distribution or any company's, at least not directly.

 Do you have any we can test? Are you perhaps in contact with Acer and able
 to connect us to that company, so that they can test the application on any
 of their devices? (Joining the project is not hard; we would welcome your
 participation and also that of Acer.)

 Alternatively, perhaps you or your colleagues might find it actually
 fastest to install AOO 3.4 (in Spanish) on the machines?

 The government may not approve of such a manoeuvre, as you are not the
 System Builder. But by joining Apache and participating, even in a modest
 way, say by describing what your company is doing and planning, you can
 effectively become part of the community building the application.

 These are the possibilities that may help you at this stage. I would
 suggest you write to us soonest with more ideas on how you wish to proceed.

 Again, your efforts are laudable and praiseworthy. But you are not alone.
 Portugal has gone through something similar—I can put you in touch with the
 principal agents there—as has Brazil. And there are other countries in
 Europe whose sub-national governments have also considered 

Re: HELP NEEDED: CERTIFICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A TENDER

2012-05-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hola Veronica,

OpenOffice es un producto de la Fundacion Apache, con gusto te pondre en
contacto con el area de trademark para que supervisen este proceso. Sin
embargo te aviso que la licencia ASF es una licencia abierta por lo que no
necesita de una autorizacion explicita para motivos de redistribución.


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Veronica Cubilla 
veronica.cubi...@cubixlat.com wrote:



 Who may concern:



 Regards from Panama!!



 This is Veronica Cubilla from Cubix Panama (www.cubixlat.com ) an
 International Wholesaler who participated with a VAR in a tender of 17,800
 laptops with Education Minister in Panama that will be used by teachers.
 One of the requirements of this tender was to include in the proposal Open
 Office.



 The laptop we proposed was the Acer Travelmate P243 which have 320GB of
 HDD.  What we need for you is a Certification Letter for Acer  as a System
 Builder who can replicate your software in this laptop, using Apache Open
 Office 3.4.



 If you need any other information about this tender you can see it in:
 http://www.panamacompra.gob.pa/ambientepublico/VistaPreviaCP.aspx?NumLc=2012-0-07-0-08-AV-008941esap=1nnc=1it=1,
 where you can also find Microsoft letter certificating the usage of Win 7
 Pro (which is attached).



 Thanks in advance for your help.









 [image: Vero Cubilla]





Re: HELP NEEDED: CERTIFICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A TENDER

2012-05-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Dear Ms Cubilla,

Thanks for contacting us. As someone who has long championed the use of 
OpenOffice in education, and specifically on netbooks and other portable and 
mobile devices, I'm delighted to learn of your tender. You probably know this, 
and if you do, my apologies, Apache OpenOffice is free to use and distribute as 
you will and is licensed under the Apache License v.2.

I have not tried Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on the Acer Travelmate. My guess is that 
it works fine. However, issuing a statement to that effect, as a System 
Builder, may pose some logistical problems, as we are an open source project 
composed of numerous groups operating within the Apache Software Foundation. 

But your request is important. I'd like therefore to see if this solution works 
for you and the government: A request to test Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (for Linux, 
Windows 7, 8) be filed. As we are not a company as such, at least not in the 
ways that Microsoft is, actually obtaining the Acer netbooks for the testing 
could be a problem. Further, there is no saying when the test on the Acer 
machines would be done, as it would depend upon the availability of resources. 
We do not profit from Acer's use of AOO, from your distribution or any 
company's, at least not directly.

Do you have any we can test? Are you perhaps in contact with Acer and able to 
connect us to that company, so that they can test the application on any of 
their devices? (Joining the project is not hard; we would welcome your 
participation and also that of Acer.)

Alternatively, perhaps you or your colleagues might find it actually fastest to 
install AOO 3.4 (in Spanish) on the machines? 

The government may not approve of such a manoeuvre, as you are not the System 
Builder. But by joining Apache and participating, even in a modest way, say by 
describing what your company is doing and planning, you can effectively become 
part of the community building the application.

These are the possibilities that may help you at this stage. I would suggest 
you write to us soonest with more ideas on how you wish to proceed.

Again, your efforts are laudable and praiseworthy. But you are not alone. 
Portugal has gone through something similar—I can put you in touch with the 
principal agents there—as has Brazil. And there are other countries in Europe 
whose sub-national governments have also considered or are deploying OpenOffice 
on education-ready netbooks. (Norway has used Intel education netbooks, for 
instance.)

Finally, you wrote to a very public list. You can find archives publicly 
available via the usual search engines. Your message has no particularly 
personal content, so rest assured. But do expect that my colleagues will likely 
also respond—indeed, I see that Alexandro has already done that. 

By the way, I am curious if your company would also be providing the education 
offices support?

Regards,

Louis Suárez-Potts
Apache OpenOffice PPMC

PS, Lo escribió en inglés por que es la convención por estas listas abiertas. 




On 2012-05-18, at 17:50 , Veronica Cubilla wrote:

  
 Who may concern:
  
 Regards from Panama!!
  
 This is Veronica Cubilla from Cubix Panama (www.cubixlat.com ) an 
 International Wholesaler who participated with a VAR in a tender of 17,800 
 laptops with Education Minister in Panama that will be used by teachers.   
 One of the requirements of this tender was to include in the proposal Open 
 Office. 
  
 The laptop we proposed was the Acer Travelmate P243 which have 320GB of HDD.  
 What we need for you is a Certification Letter for Acer  as a System Builder 
 who can replicate your software in this laptop, using Apache Open Office 3.4. 
  
 If you need any other information about this tender you can see it 
 in:http://www.panamacompra.gob.pa/ambientepublico/VistaPreviaCP.aspx?NumLc=2012-0-07-0-08-AV-008941esap=1nnc=1it=1,
  where you can also find Microsoft letter certificating the usage of Win 7 
 Pro (which is attached).
  
 Thanks in advance for your help.
  
  
  
  
 image001.jpg
  



Re: HELP NEEDED: CERTIFICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A TENDER

2012-05-20 Thread Wolf Halton
Miss Cubilla, isn't certifying a platform usable with a software the
responsibility of the hardware manufacturer? Perhaps I do not understand
the request.

Wolf Halton

http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org
http://sourcefreedom.com
Apache developer:
wolfhal...@apache.org
On May 20, 2012 6:20 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Ms Cubilla,

 Thanks for contacting us. As someone who has long championed the use of
 OpenOffice in education, and specifically on netbooks and other portable
 and mobile devices, I'm delighted to learn of your tender. You probably
 know this, and if you do, my apologies, Apache OpenOffice is free to use
 and distribute as you will and is licensed under the Apache License v.2.

 I have not tried Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on the Acer Travelmate. My guess is
 that it works fine. However, issuing a statement to that effect, as a
 System Builder, may pose some logistical problems, as we are an open
 source project composed of numerous groups operating within the Apache
 Software Foundation.

 But your request is important. I'd like therefore to see if this solution
 works for you and the government: A request to test Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 (for Linux, Windows 7, 8) be filed. As we are not a company as such, at
 least not in the ways that Microsoft is, actually obtaining the Acer
 netbooks for the testing could be a problem. Further, there is no saying
 when the test on the Acer machines would be done, as it would depend upon
 the availability of resources. We do not profit from Acer's use of AOO,
 from your distribution or any company's, at least not directly.

 Do you have any we can test? Are you perhaps in contact with Acer and able
 to connect us to that company, so that they can test the application on any
 of their devices? (Joining the project is not hard; we would welcome your
 participation and also that of Acer.)

 Alternatively, perhaps you or your colleagues might find it actually
 fastest to install AOO 3.4 (in Spanish) on the machines?

 The government may not approve of such a manoeuvre, as you are not the
 System Builder. But by joining Apache and participating, even in a modest
 way, say by describing what your company is doing and planning, you can
 effectively become part of the community building the application.

 These are the possibilities that may help you at this stage. I would
 suggest you write to us soonest with more ideas on how you wish to proceed.

 Again, your efforts are laudable and praiseworthy. But you are not alone.
 Portugal has gone through something similar—I can put you in touch with the
 principal agents there—as has Brazil. And there are other countries in
 Europe whose sub-national governments have also considered or are deploying
 OpenOffice on education-ready netbooks. (Norway has used Intel education
 netbooks, for instance.)

 Finally, you wrote to a very public list. You can find archives publicly
 available via the usual search engines. Your message has no particularly
 personal content, so rest assured. But do expect that my colleagues will
 likely also respond—indeed, I see that Alexandro has already done that.

 By the way, I am curious if your company would also be providing the
 education offices support?

 Regards,

 Louis Suárez-Potts
 Apache OpenOffice PPMC

 PS, Lo escribió en inglés por que es la convención por estas listas
 abiertas.




 On 2012-05-18, at 17:50 , Veronica Cubilla wrote:

 
  Who may concern:
 
  Regards from Panama!!
 
  This is Veronica Cubilla from Cubix Panama (www.cubixlat.com ) an
 International Wholesaler who participated with a VAR in a tender of 17,800
 laptops with Education Minister in Panama that will be used by teachers.
 One of the requirements of this tender was to include in the proposal Open
 Office.
 
  The laptop we proposed was the Acer Travelmate P243 which have 320GB of
 HDD.  What we need for you is a Certification Letter for Acer  as a System
 Builder who can replicate your software in this laptop, using Apache Open
 Office 3.4.
 
  If you need any other information about this tender you can see it in:
 http://www.panamacompra.gob.pa/ambientepublico/VistaPreviaCP.aspx?NumLc=2012-0-07-0-08-AV-008941esap=1nnc=1it=1,
 where you can also find Microsoft letter certificating the usage of Win 7
 Pro (which is attached).
 
  Thanks in advance for your help.
 
 
 
 
  image001.jpg
 




Re: HELP NEEDED: CERTIFICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A TENDER

2012-05-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Miss Cubilla, isn't certifying a platform usable with a software the
 responsibility of the hardware manufacturer? Perhaps I do not understand
 the request.


If I had to guess, Acer needs to be sure that it has permission to
copy and redistribute the AOO software.  The attachment (stripped when
sent to the list, but I have a copy as moderator) was a permission
that Microsoft granted for X copies of Office that must be fulfilled
via an authorized Microsoft OEM licensee.

Of course, we have no such OEM restrictions with AOO.  The license
permits anyone to copy, modify and redistribute.  In particular,  Acer
can source directly from us, or from any 3rd party if it is convenient
to have someone provide additional testing or patch support.

-Rob

 Thanks for contacting us. As someone who has long championed the use of
 OpenOffice in education, and specifically on netbooks and other portable
 and mobile devices, I'm delighted to learn of your tender. You probably
 know this, and if you do, my apologies, Apache OpenOffice is free to use
 and distribute as you will and is licensed under the Apache License v.2.

 I have not tried Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on the Acer Travelmate. My guess is
 that it works fine. However, issuing a statement to that effect, as a
 System Builder, may pose some logistical problems, as we are an open
 source project composed of numerous groups operating within the Apache
 Software Foundation.

 But your request is important. I'd like therefore to see if this solution
 works for you and the government: A request to test Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 (for Linux, Windows 7, 8) be filed. As we are not a company as such, at
 least not in the ways that Microsoft is, actually obtaining the Acer
 netbooks for the testing could be a problem. Further, there is no saying
 when the test on the Acer machines would be done, as it would depend upon
 the availability of resources. We do not profit from Acer's use of AOO,
 from your distribution or any company's, at least not directly.

 Do you have any we can test? Are you perhaps in contact with Acer and able
 to connect us to that company, so that they can test the application on any
 of their devices? (Joining the project is not hard; we would welcome your
 participation and also that of Acer.)

 Alternatively, perhaps you or your colleagues might find it actually
 fastest to install AOO 3.4 (in Spanish) on the machines?

 The government may not approve of such a manoeuvre, as you are not the
 System Builder. But by joining Apache and participating, even in a modest
 way, say by describing what your company is doing and planning, you can
 effectively become part of the community building the application.

 These are the possibilities that may help you at this stage. I would
 suggest you write to us soonest with more ideas on how you wish to proceed.

 Again, your efforts are laudable and praiseworthy. But you are not alone.
 Portugal has gone through something similar—I can put you in touch with the
 principal agents there—as has Brazil. And there are other countries in
 Europe whose sub-national governments have also considered or are deploying
 OpenOffice on education-ready netbooks. (Norway has used Intel education
 netbooks, for instance.)

 Finally, you wrote to a very public list. You can find archives publicly
 available via the usual search engines. Your message has no particularly
 personal content, so rest assured. But do expect that my colleagues will
 likely also respond—indeed, I see that Alexandro has already done that.

 By the way, I am curious if your company would also be providing the
 education offices support?

 Regards,

 Louis Suárez-Potts
 Apache OpenOffice PPMC

 PS, Lo escribió en inglés por que es la convención por estas listas
 abiertas.




 On 2012-05-18, at 17:50 , Veronica Cubilla wrote:

 
  Who may concern:
 
  Regards from Panama!!
 
  This is Veronica Cubilla from Cubix Panama (www.cubixlat.com ) an
 International Wholesaler who participated with a VAR in a tender of 17,800
 laptops with Education Minister in Panama that will be used by teachers.
 One of the requirements of this tender was to include in the proposal Open
 Office.
 
  The laptop we proposed was the Acer Travelmate P243 which have 320GB of
 HDD.  What we need for you is a Certification Letter for Acer  as a System
 Builder who can replicate your software in this laptop, using Apache Open
 Office 3.4.
 
  If you need any other information about this tender you can see it in:
 http://www.panamacompra.gob.pa/ambientepublico/VistaPreviaCP.aspx?NumLc=2012-0-07-0-08-AV-008941esap=1nnc=1it=1,
 where you can also find Microsoft letter certificating the usage of Win 7
 Pro (which is attached).
 
  Thanks in advance for your help.
 
 
 
 
  image001.jpg
 




Re: HELP NEEDED: CERTIFICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A TENDER

2012-05-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

On 2012-05-20, at 21:22 , Rob Weir wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Miss Cubilla, isn't certifying a platform usable with a software the
 responsibility of the hardware manufacturer? Perhaps I do not understand
 the request.
 
 
 If I had to guess, Acer needs to be sure that it has permission to
 copy and redistribute the AOO software.  The attachment (stripped when
 sent to the list, but I have a copy as moderator) was a permission
 that Microsoft granted for X copies of Office that must be fulfilled
 via an authorized Microsoft OEM licensee.
 
 Of course, we have no such OEM restrictions with AOO.  The license
 permits anyone to copy, modify and redistribute.  In particular,  Acer
 can source directly from us, or from any 3rd party if it is convenient
 to have someone provide additional testing or patch support.

My experience has also been that government agencies refuse to have anything to 
do with software unless it passes all the license and operational tests 
proprietary software sold by a single vendor does. Put another way, it's 
difficult for these public sector institutions to adopt open source software 
because it deviates from the very narrow range of permissible options. I've 
encountered this situation many times, in countries all around the world, 
including Canada, those of South East Asia, and so on. 

Acer might be able to help her out. But I'd be quite interested to work with 
her to see if she can still satisfy the government requisites. The fact that 
the Apache Foundation is a separate and independent foundation with legal 
status will help her and others in similar situations, but if not this 
government then others, I know, will likely want to be able to assign liability 
and other faults to an identifiable legal entity. 

I'd be curious how Apache deals or has dealt with other similar situations. My 
guess—from downloading enough Apache software in my time—is by not making any 
claim, save caveat emptor.

-louis 
 
 -Rob
 
 Thanks for contacting us. As someone who has long championed the use of
 OpenOffice in education, and specifically on netbooks and other portable
 and mobile devices, I'm delighted to learn of your tender. You probably
 know this, and if you do, my apologies, Apache OpenOffice is free to use
 and distribute as you will and is licensed under the Apache License v.2.
 
 I have not tried Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on the Acer Travelmate. My guess is
 that it works fine. However, issuing a statement to that effect, as a
 System Builder, may pose some logistical problems, as we are an open
 source project composed of numerous groups operating within the Apache
 Software Foundation.
 
 But your request is important. I'd like therefore to see if this solution
 works for you and the government: A request to test Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 (for Linux, Windows 7, 8) be filed. As we are not a company as such, at
 least not in the ways that Microsoft is, actually obtaining the Acer
 netbooks for the testing could be a problem. Further, there is no saying
 when the test on the Acer machines would be done, as it would depend upon
 the availability of resources. We do not profit from Acer's use of AOO,
 from your distribution or any company's, at least not directly.
 
 Do you have any we can test? Are you perhaps in contact with Acer and able
 to connect us to that company, so that they can test the application on any
 of their devices? (Joining the project is not hard; we would welcome your
 participation and also that of Acer.)
 
 Alternatively, perhaps you or your colleagues might find it actually
 fastest to install AOO 3.4 (in Spanish) on the machines?
 
 The government may not approve of such a manoeuvre, as you are not the
 System Builder. But by joining Apache and participating, even in a modest
 way, say by describing what your company is doing and planning, you can
 effectively become part of the community building the application.
 
 These are the possibilities that may help you at this stage. I would
 suggest you write to us soonest with more ideas on how you wish to proceed.
 
 Again, your efforts are laudable and praiseworthy. But you are not alone.
 Portugal has gone through something similar—I can put you in touch with the
 principal agents there—as has Brazil. And there are other countries in
 Europe whose sub-national governments have also considered or are deploying
 OpenOffice on education-ready netbooks. (Norway has used Intel education
 netbooks, for instance.)
 
 Finally, you wrote to a very public list. You can find archives publicly
 available via the usual search engines. Your message has no particularly
 personal content, so rest assured. But do expect that my colleagues will
 likely also respond—indeed, I see that Alexandro has already done that.
 
 By the way, I am curious if your company would also be providing the
 education offices support?
 
 Regards,
 
 Louis Suárez-Potts
 Apache OpenOffice PPMC
 
 

Re: about 3.4 (crash) - user help needed

2012-05-17 Thread Kevin Grignon
Heather,

I'm forwarding your issue along to our development list.

Could you also provide more details (operating systems, steps you a taking,
and what the system does in response to your action). This will help us
solve your problem.

Regards,
Kevin



On Thursday, May 17, 2012, Heather Dafoe wrote:

 Hello there I was wondering if there was a fix for the crashing of open
 office 3.4 and if so could someone help me. I am using this product in my
 business and would like to continue using it.


 Thank you,
 Heather Dafoe
 Office Administrator
 Simpson Welding Inc.
 Phone: (905) 352-3743
 Toll Free: (877) 352-WELD
 Fax: 905-352-2520
 www.simpsonwelding.ca


HELP NEEDED

2012-05-14 Thread kod...@libero.it
Hello, I'm sorry if I'm writing to the wrong email adres but i can't find the 
support email adress. i need help! i saved last night an odt file 28 apges long 
terribly important to me and now when i tried to open it it asks about the 
ASCII FILTER wich i have no idea what it is. how can a solve this problem? 
seraching in the net i found no solution... please help me or at least tell me 
what email adress i should write to.thank youmarco datola


Re: HELP NEEDED

2012-05-14 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:35:37 +0200 (CEST)
kod...@libero.it kod...@libero.it wrote:

 Hello, I'm sorry if I'm writing to the wrong email adres but i can't find the 
 support email adress. i need help! i saved last night an odt file 28 apges 
 long terribly important to me and now when i tried to open it it asks about 
 the ASCII FILTER wich i have no idea what it is. how can a solve this 
 problem? seraching in the net i found no solution... please help me or at 
 least tell me what email adress i should write to.thank youmarco datola

As OpenOffice is distributed at no cost, there is no formal support service, 
other than the goodwil of Users who give of their time in supporting it, eith 
on a mailing list such as this, or on the User Forum
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum

Tha ASCII filter message means that OpenOffice canot understand your file.  
This is _bad_ news.  In OpenOffice, go to /Tools /Options/ Openoffice.org : 
Paths and write down the path listed there for temporary files. Now exit 
OpenOffice.  Go to the location listed and see if there are any files there 
with arbitrary names (example:xryt.bak or sqfge.tmp) and approximately the 
correct date.  Copy these to another directory and rename them to type .odt, 
then see if they will open with OpenOffice.  If not, forget about them. Copy 
your damaged file to another file called Filename.zip.  See if that will open 
with WinZip or 7zip.  If it does, copy out content.xml; this will contain your 
data, but you will have to edit it heavily to get it reformated to your desire. 
 If you are not computer savvy, get someone who is to help you.

Why did this happen?  Were you working to a USB stick?  If so, you may not have 
observed the correct procedure to remove a USB device.  If you were working to 
the hard disk, you may have closed down the computer too quickly, before the 
disk buffers flushed, and the file may be only partially written.
  

 
-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie


Re: HELP NEEDED

2012-05-14 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 05/14/2012 09:34 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:35:37 +0200 (CEST)
kod...@libero.itkod...@libero.it  wrote:


Hello, I'm sorry if I'm writing to the wrong email adres but i can't find the 
support email adress. i need help! i saved last night an odt file 28 apges long 
terribly important to me and now when i tried to open it it asks about the 
ASCII FILTER wich i have no idea what it is. how can a solve this problem? 
seraching in the net i found no solution... please help me or at least tell me 
what email adress i should write to.thank youmarco datola

As OpenOffice is distributed at no cost, there is no formal support service, 
other than the goodwil of Users who give of their time in supporting it, eith 
on a mailing list such as this, or on the User Forum
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum

Tha ASCII filter message means that OpenOffice canot understand your file.  
This is _bad_ news.  In OpenOffice, go to /Tools /Options/ Openoffice.org : 
Paths and write down the path listed there for temporary files. Now exit 
OpenOffice.  Go to the location listed and see if there are any files there 
with arbitrary names (example:xryt.bak or sqfge.tmp) and approximately the 
correct date.  Copy these to another directory and rename them to type .odt, 
then see if they will open with OpenOffice.  If not, forget about them. Copy 
your damaged file to another file called Filename.zip.  See if that will open 
with WinZip or 7zip.  If it does, copy out content.xml; this will contain your 
data, but you will have to edit it heavily to get it reformated to your desire. 
 If you are not computer savvy, get someone who is to help you.

Why did this happen?  Were you working to a USB stick?  If so, you may not have 
observed the correct procedure to remove a USB device.  If you were working to 
the hard disk, you may have closed down the computer too quickly, before the 
disk buffers flushed, and the file may be only partially written.



Sometimes this happens because the file was saved with a specific file 
extension; for example, saving an ODT file as bob.doc rather than 
bob.odt. Sometimes the file is simply damaged.


--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php



More help needed for AOO Getting Started guide: Calc

2012-04-26 Thread Jean Weber
Is this statement correct?

Each spreadsheet can have many sheets, and each sheet can have many
individual cells. In Calc 3.4, each sheet can have a maximum of
1,048,576 rows and 1024 columns.


Re: More help needed for AOO Getting Started guide: Calc

2012-04-26 Thread Zhe Liu
Yes, I think it's correct.


2012/4/26 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com:
 Is this statement correct?

 Each spreadsheet can have many sheets, and each sheet can have many
 individual cells. In Calc 3.4, each sheet can have a maximum of
 1,048,576 rows and 1024 columns.



-- 
Best Regards
From aliu...@gmail.com