Re: [Oorexx-devel] MYSQL
I second that. I, too, need to implement an Enterprise Java development environment. Tutoring by a master would be invaluable. -Original Message- From: Michael Lueck [mailto:mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 03:16 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] MYSQL Greetings Walter, Walter Pachl wrote: and come back off list if necessary Why to take this valuable KT off-list after sharing what technology stack you are working on with the list? If anything, perhaps shift to the RexxLA list since it is not specific to ooRexx development, rather utilizing ooRexx within a technology stack. I am thankful, -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] stem assignment
Thank you, Rony; This is a classic example of ...what a thing is, and what a thing's name is Charles Lutwidge Dodgson explained it all 150 years ago. Walter, between Dodgson and Godel (pardon the spelling; my keyboard does not have an umlaut) language designers and implementers face an up-hill battle to produce work that makes apparent sense. Give them a break. It took me years and much frustration to understand this point; Assembler programmers should readily understand a thing's name (the name of the field containing an address) and the thing itself (the data structure pointed to by the address). This concept is one of the most fecund in computer science. Use it, don't lose it. -Original Message- From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at] Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:18 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] stem assignment Hi Walter, first the example on Rosetta code you cite as a real life example comes from your special friend, who tries to write Rexx as if it was Assembler at times. So you should ask yourself how a real life example that would be. (I have never seen a classic Rexx program that would use that kind of an assignment. In this case I think it was used intentionally by the author to not allow his program to run under ooRexx out of the box; it is not the first such program he wrote as you know. Just ask yourself: how would you have programmed that particular section yourself, the way your friend did it or differently?) Secondly, in ooRexx a stem is a reference to a stem object. If you assign a stem (object) reference to a stem variable, then that stem variable refers to the same stem object afterwards. A concept of a reference is not available in classic Rexx that is the reason why stems cannot be passed directly as arguments to Rexx internal routines. Rather you need to break the local (procedure) scope with the expose statement in order to become able to reference the stem in the calling part of the Rexx code. So in classic Rexx you are also not able to pass stems as arguments to external routines because of this restriction. ooRexx introduced the USE ARG keyword statement to allow keeping the local scope but becoming able to fetch any object, including a stem object via reference and thereafter refer to it. This behavior has been discussed here quite a few times over the years over again (also on news:comp.lang.rexx). The ooRexx documentation explicitly documents this, cf. Example 1.24 Stems in ooRexx 4.2.0 rexxref.pdf. ---rony On 25.05.2015 17:10, Walter Pachl wrote: I wa surprised to 'find' it in real life! And a little sentence right at the description of 'assignment' about this special treatment could help. Such as mentioning the special treatment of the case when source and targed are stems, And the feature of a.=fun() fun:... with return res. was news to me. -- Walter Pachl Mike Cowlishaw m...@speleotrove.com schrieb: Walter, wasn't this one of the points you already made in your presentation about differences between different Rexxes? Not a lot of point in banging on it again -- it isn't going to change. Mike -- That's the inside view. When I read about assingment, it says that the value of the expression on the righthand side is assigned to the variable on the lefthand side. consider r.=0 r.3=16 rr.=r. blabla=r. Say 'blabla='blabla Walter Pachl Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com schrieb: It most certainly IS an assignment. The stem variable rr. is set to contain a reference to the same stem object referenced by the stem variable r. ooRexx does not have a concept of variable aliasing. This is the same assignment mechanism that allows USE ARG to work or returning a stem object from a function or method call. I don't have the reference handy right now so I can't cite chapter and verse, but this is most certainly documented. Rick On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Walter Pachl christel.u.w.pa...@chello.at wrote: In REXX version 1 of this RC-task: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Hofstadter_Figure-Figure_sequences#REXX there is this statement rr.=r.; which shows a severe incompatibility. With Regina, this program runs fine. With ooRexx it fails! The reason is that the above is NOT an assignment but it makes rr. a synonym/alias for r. I skimmed the ooRexx reference and could not find a description of this fact. Besides: This IS a bit of a surprise and what I don't quite understand what this is good for. Regards, Walter -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Build Error in latest ooRexx download? Missing Folder in ooDialog Exercises.
Sahananda (Jon), have we heard further news about Mark? The last I heard he was in critical condition but still alive. From: Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers [mailto:sahana...@windhorse.biz] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 13:56 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Build Error in latest ooRexx download? Missing Folder in ooDialog Exercises. Hi Oliver, Mark 'decoupled' ooDialog from ooRexx so you could upgrade ooDialog without their needing to be a release of ooRexx. He released a 4.2.4 Preview version (which I think counts as pre-beta) and you would appear to have loaded it on your old machine. You could solve this by downloading the 4.2.4 preview again form here https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/ooDialog/ or you could download the folder itself from the SVN here https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/code-0/HEAD/tree/ooDialog/trunk/examples/userGuide/exercises/Exercise07/Extras/ . I don't know (and I don't think anyone else knows) what will be the fate of ooDialog 4.2.4 and whether it will ever get past it's 'preview' status. hope that helps, Jon On 27 November 2014 at 19:56, Oliver Sims oliver.s...@simsassociates.co.uk wrote: Just got a new computer. Downloaded ooRexx. Then ran a couple of exercises in c:\Program Files (x86)\ooRexx\samples\oodialog\userGuide\exercises Discovered that Exercise07 crashed badly. The reason was that a ::required folder was missing. However, on my old PC the folder was not missing. Checked ooRexx versions on new and old computer – they are the same: REXX-ooRexx_4.2.0(MT)_32-bit 6.04 22 Feb 2014. Checked the versions of ooDialog and discovered: Old PC: ooDialog 4.2.4.9934 New PC: ooDialog 4.2.3.9852 So the latest download (on new PC) includes a version of ooDialog that is *older* than the older download (on old PC). Btw, I just checked on SVN and the missing folder is NOT missing from the latest build of ooDialog (rev 10860). How can I fix this problem? Many thanks, Oliver PS: Missing folder is: “Program Files\ooRexx\samples\ooDialog\userGuide\exercises\Exercise07\Extras\Wow4”. PPS: I have unfortunately been a bit off-colour for the past eight months or so, and am just trying to get back in the swing of things. So I may have missed something relevant to the problem. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751 http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX and QT 5.3.1
I apologize; I did not understand. I gather that you want to integrate OORexx into a C++ application as an embedded scripting language. The single-line requirement would be included in that. The doc explains about that but I have never understood it. Perhaps this thread will enlighten us all. From: CheeKiang Goh [mailto:gck.ngll.291...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 20:55 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX and QT 5.3.1 Good day, Dan, Appreciate your quick reply. Conceptually you are right ... I am looking for a tryREXX equivalent based on the C++ API of ooREXX. I think tryREXX is in REXX though (I hope I look @ the right thing though... is it the one @ %install_dir%ooREXX/rexxtry.rexx ... ? )... (BTW... I tried that ... and it seems to be able to handle only single-line codes trials... if I try entering multiple lines sequence (e.g. do ... end over several lines) the interpretation seems to not work proper... ) thanks very much for your valuable time! On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: There may already be an answer for this. We have a line-by-line interactive interpreter named TryRexx.BTW, what is QT? From: CheeKiang Goh [mailto:gck.ngll.291...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 20:10 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX and QT 5.3.1 Good day, all, has been a user of REXX on ZoC for quite a while and felt like doing a simple QT GUI application incorporating REXX scripting in a console window. (OK... geeky hobby... I know) The idea I have is (very crudely) a UI widget, which can throw a string @ the REXX interpreter to do line by line interpretation. In return I am hoping to get a signal from the interpreter when it is done interpreting the line, also the result in a string. and this should be interactive as wanted a REXX console in QT UI. Been searching the web for such examples but obviously fail to find. So... I have this wacky idea of making such a REXX console widget for QT (also to help me learn QT and OOREXX) I have chosen OOREXX as the C++ API looks more complete. I know OOREXX can do UI... I just wanted to make it more simple to use as a class object for QT with minimal dependencies... also looked at the examples which comes with the installation... it just do not look like something which fits what I wanted. But I am quite a NOOB handling OOREXX integration and as such, sincerely seeking your kind advice for suggestions/resources/(better yet... examples) for my experimentation. thanks very much. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck#174; Code Sight#153; - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck#174; Code Sight#153; - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX and QT 5.3.1
There may already be an answer for this. We have a line-by-line interactive interpreter named TryRexx.BTW, what is QT? From: CheeKiang Goh [mailto:gck.ngll.291...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 20:10 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX and QT 5.3.1 Good day, all, has been a user of REXX on ZoC for quite a while and felt like doing a simple QT GUI application incorporating REXX scripting in a console window. (OK... geeky hobby... I know) The idea I have is (very crudely) a UI widget, which can throw a string @ the REXX interpreter to do line by line interpretation. In return I am hoping to get a signal from the interpreter when it is done interpreting the line, also the result in a string. and this should be interactive as wanted a REXX console in QT UI. Been searching the web for such examples but obviously fail to find. So... I have this wacky idea of making such a REXX console widget for QT (also to help me learn QT and OOREXX) I have chosen OOREXX as the C++ API looks more complete. I know OOREXX can do UI... I just wanted to make it more simple to use as a class object for QT with minimal dependencies... also looked at the examples which comes with the installation... it just do not look like something which fits what I wanted. But I am quite a NOOB handling OOREXX integration and as such, sincerely seeking your kind advice for suggestions/resources/(better yet... examples) for my experimentation. thanks very much. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck#174; Code Sight#153; - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Redirecting ooRexx' standard files at runtime...
Thanks, Rony; this is very timely. It has direct application to my use of ooRexx extensions to Eclipse. -Original Message- From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 09:10 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: [Oorexx-devel] Redirecting ooRexx' standard files at runtime... Just a nice feature of ooRexx which might not get really noticed, however at times may proof to be *quite* helpful, hence sharing it here. In ooRexx whenever one outputs to stdout, stderr or inputs from stdin, then the monitors .output, .error and .input are used. By default these monitors forward to .stdout, .stderr, and .stdin respectively. Having a monitor object allows one to exchange the destination object at runtime from within ooRexx, which might sound exotic at first. However, there are problems that can be solved extremely elegantly, knowing this infrastructure and behaviour of ooRexx. A case in question: currently, there is a student who has taken on the task to create a proof of concept of making ooRexx scripts available to programs, embedded in HTML texts in a platform independent manner (maybe a possible presentation for the 2015 International Rexx Symposium). The problem here is that any ooRexx output and input using standard files does not really yield visible outputs in the case of stdout and stderr, so testing and developing has been incredibly hard on the student. Once he told me about not seeing debug output from ooRexx scripts while invoking them via JavaScript and the Java-Plugin, however the Java debug output would be shown in the Java console, I suggested to change the ooRexx standard files at runtime from within ooRexx to redirect to Java's standard files (i.e. System.out, System.err, System.in) and gave him a quick hack. By redirecting ooRexx' .output, .error and .input to Java's standard streams the output of his ooRexx programs all of a sudden became visible in the Java console, easying debugging tremendeously for him. As I foresee a future need for this redirection to Java streams I added a routine BSF.redirectTo([Java|ooRexx]) and implemented ooRexx classes that subclass the ooRexx inputStream and outputStream classes, forwarding the ooRexx standard input and standard outputs from/to the appropriate Java standard streams (will be part of BSF.CLS in the next version of BSF4ooRexx). All the ooRexx-programs themselves remain unchanged, except for the very first one that needs to call BSF.redirectTo() once to carry out the redirection to the Java standard streams. So, if you ever deploy ooRexx scripts from environments where ooRexx input/output to/from standard files is not possible for whatever reason, just use this technique to redirect the ooRexx streams to the hosting environments ones. If you want to know what methods your replacement stream classes need to implement, just lookup the classes BSF.inputStream and BSF.printStream in BSF.CLS in the current beta of BSF4ooRexx. ---rony P.S.: In ooRexx 4.2 there got two new standard ooRexx streams added that are named .debugInput and .traceOutput. BSF.redirectTo() also takes care to redirect these streams in case they are defined in .local. -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS
-lrexxapi stackOverflow.o -o stackOverflow stackOverflow.o: In function `main': stackOverflow.cpp:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `RexxCreateInterpreter' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: [stackOverflow] Error 1 (ignored) builder@tzvi-OptiPlex-360:~/orxbld$ On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:00 PM, René Jansen rvjan...@xs4all.nl wrote: I almost exclusively use the command line version. All problems I ever had to solve with svn involved graphical clients. That said, TortoiseSVN is a decent one. best regards, René. On 11 mei 2014, at 20:31, Hobart Spitz orexx...@gmail.com wrote: For my Unbuntu dry-run build, there seem to be a few svn clients. Does anyone know which are good, bad, or ugly, so I don't have to waste time finding out on my own? Thanks. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM, René Jansen rvjan...@xs4all.nl wrote: The source should be gotten through SourceForge and a svn client; it is not included with the installer packages. Best regards, René. Sent from my iPhone On 11 May 2014, at 19:51, Hobart Spitz orexx...@gmail.com wrote: I looked thru the various files and directories I installed into a Unbuntu 12.04 LTS, and couldn't find anything that looked like source or make files. Can I get a hint where to look? The link said Install/Source. Googleing svn client for z/os suggests that the question has been asked frequently, but has not been answered. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: Well, then, does USS use of ooRexx preclude its use in the same manner as Rexx is used by TSO? I do not use USS in normal everyday work. -Original Message- From: René Jansen [mailto:rvjan...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 20:46 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS That is a possibility. Until a few years ago rxapi was a shared memory application, so it could be put in ECSA or its own address space I think. This is something to worry about after we have established that the compiler generates the right code for USS use of ooRexx. On 10 mei 2014, at 21:18, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: How do we expect to do this? Do we plan to run rxapi as a system task, started at IPL? -Original Message- From: René Jansen [mailto:rvjan...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 19:27 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Cc: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS Hi Howard, I would think, trying to build on Linux (if you haven't done so already) to make sure you are prepared to see what happens during a build, which tools are involved, what artifacts are produced and how these are linked together. Then, look for ways to have this work on z/OS, and try to have an inventory of what needs to be done to have an initial port work under TSO, which I image to involve lots of small programs to try out converting unix api to tso macros. I am working on arranging an LPAR to work on. In the meantime, looking around for an svn client for z/OS would not be a bad idea. René Vincent Jansen On 9 mei 2014, at 17:55, Hobart Spitz orexx...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I start? -- OREXXMan - - Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find
Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS
How do we expect to do this? Do we plan to run rxapi as a system task, started at IPL? -Original Message- From: René Jansen [mailto:rvjan...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 19:27 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Cc: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS Hi Howard, I would think, trying to build on Linux (if you haven't done so already) to make sure you are prepared to see what happens during a build, which tools are involved, what artifacts are produced and how these are linked together. Then, look for ways to have this work on z/OS, and try to have an inventory of what needs to be done to have an initial port work under TSO, which I image to involve lots of small programs to try out converting unix api to tso macros. I am working on arranging an LPAR to work on. In the meantime, looking around for an svn client for z/OS would not be a bad idea. René Vincent Jansen On 9 mei 2014, at 17:55, Hobart Spitz orexx...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I start? -- OREXXMan -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS
Well, then, does USS use of ooRexx preclude its use in the same manner as Rexx is used by TSO? I do not use USS in normal everyday work. -Original Message- From: René Jansen [mailto:rvjan...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 20:46 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS That is a possibility. Until a few years ago rxapi was a shared memory application, so it could be put in ECSA or its own address space I think. This is something to worry about after we have established that the compiler generates the right code for USS use of ooRexx. On 10 mei 2014, at 21:18, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: How do we expect to do this? Do we plan to run rxapi as a system task, started at IPL? -Original Message- From: René Jansen [mailto:rvjan...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 19:27 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Cc: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] OOREXX on z/OS Hi Howard, I would think, trying to build on Linux (if you haven't done so already) to make sure you are prepared to see what happens during a build, which tools are involved, what artifacts are produced and how these are linked together. Then, look for ways to have this work on z/OS, and try to have an inventory of what needs to be done to have an initial port work under TSO, which I image to involve lots of small programs to try out converting unix api to tso macros. I am working on arranging an LPAR to work on. In the meantime, looking around for an svn client for z/OS would not be a bad idea. René Vincent Jansen On 9 mei 2014, at 17:55, Hobart Spitz orexx...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I start? -- OREXXMan - - Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads
No doubt you could drag and drop the icon for the system onto the icon for the file, thus expressing a relevant evaluation of the function. That could apply to many things at Parris Island. Welcome back, Lee! Don't stay away so long next time. -Original Message- From: Lee Peedin [mailto:l...@safedatausa.com] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:20 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads I once wrote an inventory/supply package for a group at Parris Island called Peedin Inventory Supply System (PISS). Lee On 2/20/2014 1:03 PM, Chip Davis wrote: How does this utility NOT go by the name Windbag? ;-) That's nearly as bad as the z/VM TCP/IP installation wizard that was pushed back a release because the developers named it IPWIZ. -Chip- On 2/20/2014 12:25 PM Mike Cowlishaw said: __ I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is it the Express version? The debugger I start on boot is started via the command: 'windbg -IS' which I think is from VC [++?] and yes I think the Express version, but quite an old one. windbg used to be distributed in the device driver kit and is different than the VC++ debugger. It is supposed to be more powerful, but I don't know if it has just in time debugging, if it breaks in automatically when a crash happens on the system. Hmm, yes, on a bit of googling, looks like it's part of the Windows SDK. Still, anyone writing apps for Windows would install that. Looking up some details on windbg, reminded me that the debug build may not be helpful without the .pdb files that are produced during the compile? No idea. I guess I'll install (and lastest SDK/windbg) and wait for something to happen. Of course, nothing will, now :-) Mike -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg. clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] How about adding the SQLLite support to the ooRexx distribution?
This is a superb idea. I do not know how I can help (mainframers don't understand such things) but if I could I would. SQLite is a strong natural complement to ooRexx. BTW, whatever happened to GTK integration? From: Mark Miesfeld [mailto:miesf...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 08:43 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] How about adding the SQLLite support to the ooRexx distribution? On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at wrote: are there any thoughts about adding the SQLLite support to the ooRexx 4.2.0 distribution or should it remain a standalone add-on? I do want to add it to the distribution. But, the documentation is not finished and I doubt that I will finish it before we want to release 4.2.0. In addition, I'm not sure how to integrate it into the unix-like build. I'm sure I can figure it out, or get David to help me. But, it is one more task that needs to be done. So, for now I was not thinking to add it to 4.2.0. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Getting Started Document
David, I strongly support this. So much so, in fact, that I would be willing to work on it. I am not qualified to originate such a document, but I sure will help with it. Let me know what I can do. -Original Message- From: David Ashley [mailto:w.david.ash...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 13:40 To: ooRexxDevel Subject: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx Getting Started Document All - After much deliberation on my part I believe that we need a new major document that, for lack of a better title, I am calling Getting Started. I would like for this to be a complete tutloial of getting and using ooRexx for the novice beginner. I think there is a huge audience for this document if we can make it so that it can get the beginner started using ooRexx from the object oriented perspective from the very beginning. Using objects is such a huge leap for most casual programmers that they just drop the whole idea of using ooRexx before they even get started. So we need to give them some help in the form of a tutorial that starts with simple object oriented concepts and builds on that base. This document, once it has the basic outline established, could grow with time with many people contributing to the it. There are many concepts to be explained and it would need to have a great many simple examples. So what does everyone think? I am willing to get it started and propose a basic outline. I certainly do not have the whole idea for this in my head and we would need to hash out an outline that everyone can agree with. Let me know how you feel about this idea. David Ashley -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Ad sorting arrays: request for discussion/thoughts ...
Rony, I just tried to vote, but there was no response when clicking the button. What else must I do to register a vote? From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 06:49 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Ad sorting arrays: request for discussion/thoughts ... Just realized (from habits of the past) that I forgot to explicitly ask for voting (up or down or abstain)! So please, if interested in any of these RFEs below, then consider to vote up or down or abstain by clicking on the link and then press the + button or the - button. If you want to abstain after having clicked any of these buttons, just re-click them, such that they pop back to neutral (abstain). ---rony On 25.08.2012 13:09, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Hi there, thank you very much for all of your feedback which encouraged me to create the following two RFEs: * feature-requests:479 Add a condense method to the Array class: https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/479/ and * feature-requests:480 Allow the sort/sortWith methods to sort sparse arrays as well: https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/480/ ---rony On 24.08.2012 12:01, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Yesterday I stumbled over a surprising behaviour of Array's sort, which led me to open a bug report https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/bugs/1107/ https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/bugs/1107/. Obviously the sorting is working as designed, hence the reported behaviour was not accepted as a bug. Having slept a night over this and thinking about my utmost surprise that sort would raise an error condition if it hits an empty array element (one without an entry) in between, I try to summarize my thoughts about the current behaviour, requesting a change of the design and implementation to get rid of the surprising factor and to remove undeterminable fragility from the Array sort. First, the current design and implementation: The single dimiensioned array that gets sorted must not have empty entries in between. If the sort tries to refer to an empty slot it raises Error 98.975: Missing array element at position xyz and the program is ended, if the condition does not get trapped. Thoughts about this: 1. Having worked for many years sorting arrays, I was *totally surprised* about this unexpected (because never experienced) behaviour! The surprise factor for me was at the maximum. 2. There is no documentation going with sorting arrays that would communicate that the arrays to be sorted must have no empty elements in between that I am aware of. Therefore one cannot expect this behaviour at all. 3. If one uses single dimensioned arrays that get changed in routines and methods (written by others) such that elements get removed in between, then sorting such an array all of a sudden (and totally unforseeable) raises the above mentioned error condition, which makes sort quite fragile for programmers IMHO. 1. To overcome this situation, one must advice every ooRexx programmer to do *always* a (potentially time-consuming) makearray before sorting an array just to make sure that the aforementioned error condition does not get raised. 4. Finally, I would have expected that an array with empty elements should be sortable without a problem, therefore my utmost surprise! :) 1. My expectations would be simply as follows: if a single dimensioned array contained empty elements, then sorting would work and all the empty elements are sorted to the end of the array, no matter what the comparison method returns. This way, after a sort, all empty elements are always at the end of the array. (The items and size messages would remain the same.) The questions I would have, before contemplating about filing a RFE: * am I the only one who is surprised about a failing sort on a single dimensioned array if in between there are empty elements? * Independent of this, would it be acceptable to change the current design and implementation of the sort such that empty elements are tolerated and put to the end of the array (what would be arguments, thoughts that speak against such a change)? ---rony -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Some comments on the ooSQLLite extension
I, too, have been watching this thread with interest; I recently used SQLite on a project where a small-footprint DB manager was needed and it outperformed everyone's expectations. It seems to me that a rexx-ish solution would be to use a stem to return queries, whether single rows or cursors. The syntax Sqldb.column name with sqldb.0 for the row count seems natural to me, and does not require ooRexx support, although ooRexx could use it. My experience has been with in-core databases, so I can't guess how fast a DASD query might run, but if one retrieved the column names, etc. for the query prior to retrieving the data the tail name of the stem items could be determined with no hassle. Mark, if you wish to release some sandbox versions of ooSQLite I will certainly exercise them, although I might not be able to build them. -Original Message- From: Mark Miesfeld [mailto:miesf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 07:11 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Some comments on the ooSQLLite extension On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Lee Peedin l...@safedatausa.com wrote: Mark, lets assume your table structure is something like: firstname lastname address city state zip Now lets assume your sql query was simply: select * from table Both your and Jon's query would work fine UNTIL the point where it's determined that we now need a middleinitial column between firstname and lastname. The beauty of SQL is that column can be inserted and the integrity of the data is not harmed. HOWEVER, if your case of using an array of arrays, every statement in every script that expected the lastname to be the 2nd column to be returned would have to now be changed to the 3rd column. That's a good point Lee. I'm not arguing against using an array of directories. I'm just saying that it this point, (since the array of arrays is already coded,) it would be just as easy to allow the user to specify how he wanted the result set returned. It could be an attribute of the database. After your and Jon's arguments, I would make the default an array of directories. Yours is a good point, I'm not saying it isn't. But, if your application was already coded, why wouldn't you add the new column at the end, column 6? But, hey, what do I know. Probably a lot more than I do when it comes to databases. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New Workbench
This is a great idea! I am currently building an Eclipse plugin to use in my COBOL migration practice. It should be fairly simple, if not tedious. Do we want to use BSF4OOREXX, or do we want to use Java? What do we want it to do? -Original Message- From: Moritz Hoffmann [mailto:antig...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 02:35 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New Workbench -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Ashley wrote: Rick, this is mostly for you. At SHARE this week I was asked at least 3 times about a replacement for the old Workbench. So I think it is about time to get serious about coming up with a design for an ooRexx Workbench. Honestly, I have not given this much thought so even startup ideas are in short supply from this end :-) I guess the fastest way of building an editor is to use Eclipse. I don't know how hard it is to generate a grammar for Rexx, using for example Xtext or ANTLR if the latter one does not offer enough functionality. If Xtext can be used, we get the editor (with content assistent!) for free. However, one has to think about interfacing with ooRexx then, because of the Java/C boundary... Kind regards, Moritz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkukiJkACgkQl56sB+DIUZR6igCfdOlZ5nHjGoTjU/m8A3hRrxwx 8WkAn3jJPgDYlWliLd2s35NXOH+pySOp =VnnS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] The SourceForge interface
Jon speaks for me, too, Mark! Your patient and fluent explanations make things much easier for me. _ From: Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers [mailto:sahana...@windhorse.biz] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 13:53 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] The SourceForge interface Hi Mark, I hear your rant. I don't know if it takes the edge off the frustration for you, but I want to say out loud (as it were) that I really apreciate all the hard work that you put into this, and even when you complain it is with a grin! thank you Jon 2009/7/26 Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com I feel like Les, I'd like to go on a rant. grin I got the rc3 files uploaded to SourceForge, then spent about an hour trying to get the release notes to show up as release notes. I give up on that. I don't know if the interface is still buggy, I'm not doing it right, or they don't intend to show release notes to the user anymore because it is too confusing. It's possible that only a project admin can do it. -- Mark Miesfeld -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ODBC/MySQL Bounty Question
The product I use in my mainframe-to-Un*x migrations has such drivers; are you interested in open-source or will you pay for a product? -Original Message- From: David Ruggles [mailto:da...@safedatausa.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 07:59 To: 'Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List' Subject: [Oorexx-devel] ODBC/MySQL Bounty Question This is an open question to the list and anyone else that might be interested. Is anyone available who would be interested in writing an ODBC or MySQL interface for ooRexx 4.0? Safe Data, Inc. is heavily dependant on ooRexx and MySQL, however as a company and individually we don't have the C expertise nor the time to implement this ourselves. On the other hand we should be able to front some bounty to see that it gets accomplished. What I would like to do is lay out our goals and see what kind of bounty might be needed and find anyone else in the community who would be willing to offer bounty as well. I'm going to list two sets of requirements, ideal and minimum. Anyone willing to add bounty please indicate which set of requirements (and/or add your own) and how much, anyone willing and able to do the work please indicate how much bounty would be needed for each set of requirements. Ideal Requirements: * Cross Platform * ODBC unixODBC (any ODBC/unixODBC driver) * Stored Functions * Stored Procedures * All Normal SQL Statements (COMMIT, ROLLBACK, SELECT, DELETE, etc.) Minimum Requirements: * Windows (strongly desire Linux also) * MySQL * ALL Normal SQL Statements Thanks, David Ruggles CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+ Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc. (910) 285-7200 da...@safedatausa.com -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Request for nutshell API examples ... (Re: BSF4Rexx and ooRexx 4.0 : (tiny) adjustments needed - and a bug in rxapi.exe ?
Thanks, Rony. This will help me. _ From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:39 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: [Oorexx-devel] Request for nutshell API examples ... (Re: BSF4Rexx and ooRexx 4.0 : (tiny) adjustments needed - and a bug in rxapi.exe ? Hi there, returning to an offer at the beginning of January w.r.t asking questions about the new 4.0 APIs (attached). Having gone through the new C++ APIs maybe the best way to express questions would be to ask for commented nutshell (= very short programs) API examples. Possible solutions would mostlikely help clarify a *lot* of questions right away. Therefore I enclosed two requests for nutshell API examples, which I think would help understand quite a few of the APIs and how they play together. In the context of the requested nutshell examples I tried to supply at least the ooRexx part of the question, by creating two small multithreaded nutshell ooRexx programs with which or from which the interfacing should occur. Regards, ---rony Rick McGuire wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Rony G. Flatscher mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at wrote: Bonjour Jean-Louis, I confirm that the current distribution built with ooRexx 3.2 works well with ooRexx 4, after the changes made by Rick today. All the scripts in samples run without problem, from rexx or from java. That's really great news! Only Snippet108.rex is not running, I suppose I don't have SWT. Yes, you would need to get it from http://www.eclipse.org/swt/ http://www.eclipse.org/swt/. After that, all of Eclipse's swt-gadgets are available to you (and transcribing the Java snippets to ooRexx using BSF4Rexx is quite straight-forward) ... Even not a little bug to shake out :-) :-) Nevertheless, your work on making BSF4Rexx compile with ooRexx 4.0 is highly appreciated as it will get incorporated (after the ski-seminar which starts this week, our winter term goes on until the end of January over here), before starting one long-outstanding/planned enhancement to BSF4Rexx which is only possible with ooRexx 4.0, which will allow for call backs. [For that I will have to study the addressing of specific running ooRexx interpreter instances as well as ooRexx threads and addressing ooRexx objects therein.] And all questions about this can be asked here. Rick Regards, ---rony -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] FW: [RexxLA] NUMERIC digits.
Well, I sent the following to the wrong list. -Original Message- From: Dan Carter [mailto:gwcar...@ezlink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:47 To: 'RexxLA Members mailing list' Subject: RE: [RexxLA] NUMERIC digits. I am not a heavy REXX technician but I do frequently write and debug small REXXs on my 32-bit workstation that are destined for use there or on my 64-bit servers. I suspect that I am like many others in that I expect REXX to be REXX. If I need more NUMERIC DIGITS I will code the statement to ask for them; otherwise I want the scripts to perform the same no matter where they run. If 64-bit REXX can provide greater capability, fine, but unless I ask for a difference I count on there being no difference. If this discussion is about changing the default, then I would ask that the default not change. That obviously must apply to internal functions as well. -Original Message- From: rexxla-members-boun...@mail.rexxla.org [mailto:rexxla-members-boun...@mail.rexxla.org] On Behalf Of Rick McGuire Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:29 To: RexxLA Members mailing list Subject: Re: [RexxLA] NUMERIC digits. Ahem, RTMcheck the docs for LOSTDIGITS. Rick On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:22 PM, John Bodoh john_bo...@infrawise.com wrote: All, I have also been following this thread and I dont understand the problem! I think that if a script requires more than 9 digits to work correctly, it will change it with NUMERIC. To me the only time this would ever be an issue is when a script depends precisely on 9 digits. Like David, I cant see very many scripts being affected. To me the bigger problem (because it affects me) is the fact that the interpreter seems to truncate numbers to 9 digits without telling anyone. I a number of may scripts, I deal with phone numbers (10 digits without hyphens). When I, for example, compare one phone number to another, they may compare equal because only 9 digits are being compared. My program did not work as I expected it to but it kept on truckn with the false equal comparison. Rather than change digits, I make it a character string comparison like: IF Anumber1 Anumber2 THEN. I wish there were a SIGNAL ON TOOMANYDIDIGS instruction where I could catch these errors. John. ___ rexxla-members mailing list -- mailto:rexxla-memb...@mail.rexxla.org http://rice.safedataisp.net/mailman/listinfo/rexxla-members ___ rexxla-members mailing list -- mailto:rexxla-memb...@mail.rexxla.org http://rice.safedataisp.net/mailman/listinfo/rexxla-members -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 4.0.0-alpha
Please disregard my last post. I found it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: Dan Carter [mailto:gwcar...@ezlink.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 18:56 To: 'Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 4.0.0-alpha Thanks, Mark. Should I expect a RexxUnit 4.0 snapshot? -Original Message- From: Mark Miesfeld [mailto:miesf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 18:25 To: ooRexx Dev List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 4.0.0-alpha On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: Per our discussion yesterday, I added a 4.0.0-alpha release to the oorexx package on SourceForge. Currently it just has the Windows 32-bit and 64-bit install packages in the release. I also did a 4.0.0-alpha for oorexx-docs. It has all the docs at the 4183 level. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] Test units
As Rick suggested I am (trying) writing a test unit for the Object class. After studying Mark's Quick Start guide I think I understand what to do. It seems to me that writing test cases involves exercising each method of a class which has been instantiated into an object. Further, it looks to me that a method should not be used until it has been tested. If these ideas are inappropriate, please tell me. My ideas of test composition immediately bit me when I started to conceive assertions to test the ~new class method. Just what is returned if a method call fails? In particular,, in the ooRexx line tc1 = .Object~new what will be in tc1 if the call fails? Will it be the handle of the .NIL object? I am at a loss to figure out how to test the ~new method without using other methods of the Object class. Any suggestions about style, structure, etc. will be strongly appreciated. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Windows build tools release on SoruceForge
Mark, Bless you and Thank you! -Original Message- From: Mark Miesfeld [mailto:miesf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:15 To: ooRexx Dev List Cc: David Ashley Subject: [Oorexx-devel] Windows build tools release on SoruceForge All, We discussed doing this some time ago, creating a release on SourceForge of the open source tools needed to get started with building ooRexx. It was Rick's idea, I never followed up on it, until now. I just created a release for the Windows tools. It has everything needed, except the C++ compiler and the Platform SDK David - you can grab the things I listed in the other post from there. (Except Visual C++ Express and the Platform SDK) The release notes have some simple directions, but really there is not much to it. If anyone goes to take advantage of this package and has problems, just post a question. -- Mark Miesfeld -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref?
That worked. Thanks, Rick. I will now study the tests to get up to speed. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 18:08 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? What URL are you using for the checkout? The tests are located here: https://oorexx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/oorexx/test/trunk Rick On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: I thought to check out the tests and the 4.0 doc from sourceforge.net, but Tortoise could not make contact with the server repository. Is there some recent change, or is there some magic I need to know? I am especially anxious to get into the RexxUnit arena for a number of reasons, so I hope that the tests are there as well as the doc. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 14:06 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? A general review of the docs would be helpful. Any assistance you might want to make in improving our test coverage would REALLY help. We have lots of classes where we have little to no regression tests yetamazingly, this includes the object class. Rick On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: David (et. al.): I can help with some of these tasks, I think. In any event, I think I need to volunteer. I can certainly take on items that could free more-skilled people for work they can do better than I. My project of six years is coming to a close so I have more time. If documentation is an appropriate area, just tell me what tools I need, what you want me to do, and how you will judge my output. I want to contribute, not detract. I am examining the todo list, but I thought you might have preferences about where I start. From: David Ashley [mailto:david.ashley@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:28 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? Mark Miesfeld wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for doing this, but note that this change can be taking place concurrent with running a beta, so it shouldn't hold up doing that. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and plan on doing that this weekend. I'll probably wait until tomorrow to give David and others a chance to speak up. Although, I very much doubt that David will object. grin I'm doing a through front-to-back review of the reference right now, I noticed that, that's great. ... I don't even consider OLE to necessarily be built-init's really more loaded by default, but I'm splitting hairs on that one. Actually, I think that's a good way of putting it. Don't be surprised if I steal that phrase from you. ;-) Back to the 'beta' idea. I've been wondering if maybe we shouldn't put up a pre-beta release on Source Forge. I think the code is definitely at the point where it is stable enough for interested users to start kicking it around, and provide some help in shaking out bugs. I realize that people *could* use the build machine, but, maybe more people actually *would* download from SourceForge. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel I am all for moving the Windows specific stuff to another document. If you have trouble making that happen just let me know. As to a pre beta, I think it is a good idea to put it up on SourceForge as that lends a more official feeling to it. Let's target that for either next week or the week after. I will be out of town without Internet access on 2/14-15. David Ashley -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref?
After displaying the trunk folder and clicking on ooRexx, the connection again failed. A jpg of the message box is attached. Is this a common problem with SourceForge, or is there something I must change on my end? -Original Message- From: Dan Carter [mailto:gwcar...@ezlink.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 18:15 To: 'Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? That worked. Thanks, Rick. I will now study the tests to get up to speed. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 18:08 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? What URL are you using for the checkout? The tests are located here: https://oorexx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/oorexx/test/trunk Rick On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: I thought to check out the tests and the 4.0 doc from sourceforge.net, but Tortoise could not make contact with the server repository. Is there some recent change, or is there some magic I need to know? I am especially anxious to get into the RexxUnit arena for a number of reasons, so I hope that the tests are there as well as the doc. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 14:06 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? A general review of the docs would be helpful. Any assistance you might want to make in improving our test coverage would REALLY help. We have lots of classes where we have little to no regression tests yetamazingly, this includes the object class. Rick On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: David (et. al.): I can help with some of these tasks, I think. In any event, I think I need to volunteer. I can certainly take on items that could free more-skilled people for work they can do better than I. My project of six years is coming to a close so I have more time. If documentation is an appropriate area, just tell me what tools I need, what you want me to do, and how you will judge my output. I want to contribute, not detract. I am examining the todo list, but I thought you might have preferences about where I start. From: David Ashley [mailto:david.ashley@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:28 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? Mark Miesfeld wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for doing this, but note that this change can be taking place concurrent with running a beta, so it shouldn't hold up doing that. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and plan on doing that this weekend. I'll probably wait until tomorrow to give David and others a chance to speak up. Although, I very much doubt that David will object. grin I'm doing a through front-to-back review of the reference right now, I noticed that, that's great. ... I don't even consider OLE to necessarily be built-init's really more loaded by default, but I'm splitting hairs on that one. Actually, I think that's a good way of putting it. Don't be surprised if I steal that phrase from you. ;-) Back to the 'beta' idea. I've been wondering if maybe we shouldn't put up a pre-beta release on Source Forge. I think the code is definitely at the point where it is stable enough for interested users to start kicking it around, and provide some help in shaking out bugs. I realize that people *could* use the build machine, but, maybe more people actually *would* download from SourceForge. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel I am all for moving the Windows specific stuff to another document. If you have trouble making that happen just let me know. As to a pre beta, I think it is a good idea to put it up on SourceForge as that lends a more official feeling to it. Let's target that for either next week or the week after. I will be out of town without
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref?
It must be a timeout here on my machine. After repeated tries I was able to get in; subsequent tries failed in different places. I did finally get to see the tree display and to look at some tests. I am now studying Mark's document. Thanks for your counsel. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 18:38 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? I'm not sure what's wrong. I've been using the svn server all evening without error, so I'm not sure why it would be failing for you. I also use the svn command line version rather than Tortoise. Rick On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: After displaying the trunk folder and clicking on ooRexx, the connection again failed. A jpg of the message box is attached. Is this a common problem with SourceForge, or is there something I must change on my end? -Original Message- From: Dan Carter [mailto:gwcar...@ezlink.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 18:15 To: 'Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? That worked. Thanks, Rick. I will now study the tests to get up to speed. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 18:08 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? What URL are you using for the checkout? The tests are located here: https://oorexx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/oorexx/test/trunk Rick On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: I thought to check out the tests and the 4.0 doc from sourceforge.net, but Tortoise could not make contact with the server repository. Is there some recent change, or is there some magic I need to know? I am especially anxious to get into the RexxUnit arena for a number of reasons, so I hope that the tests are there as well as the doc. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:object.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 14:06 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? A general review of the docs would be helpful. Any assistance you might want to make in improving our test coverage would REALLY help. We have lots of classes where we have little to no regression tests yetamazingly, this includes the object class. Rick On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote: David (et. al.): I can help with some of these tasks, I think. In any event, I think I need to volunteer. I can certainly take on items that could free more-skilled people for work they can do better than I. My project of six years is coming to a close so I have more time. If documentation is an appropriate area, just tell me what tools I need, what you want me to do, and how you will judge my output. I want to contribute, not detract. I am examining the todo list, but I thought you might have preferences about where I start. From: David Ashley [mailto:david.ashley@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:28 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Move Windows specific classes out of rexxref? Mark Miesfeld wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for doing this, but note that this change can be taking place concurrent with running a beta, so it shouldn't hold up doing that. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and plan on doing that this weekend. I'll probably wait until tomorrow to give David and others a chance to speak up. Although, I very much doubt that David will object. grin I'm doing a through front-to-back review of the reference right now, I noticed that, that's great. ... I don't even consider OLE to necessarily be built-init's really more loaded by default, but I'm splitting hairs on that one. Actually, I think that's a good way of putting it. Don't be surprised if I steal that phrase from you. ;-) Back to the 'beta' idea. I've been wondering if maybe we shouldn't put up a pre-beta release on Source Forge. I think the code is definitely at the point where it is stable enough for interested users to start kicking it around, and provide some help in shaking out bugs. I realize that people *could* use the build machine, but, maybe more people actually *would* download from SourceForge. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can
Re: [Oorexx-devel] util
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] More Building 4.0 on OpenBSD 4.3
Rick, do I understand correctly that rxapi runs independently of my executed ooRexx and serves all callers regardless of who or when they are started? -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:24 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] More Building 4.0 on OpenBSD 4.3 ooRexx has launches a daemon process call rxapi, which is used to manage the IPC used for queues, function registrations, and macrospace. That process is started when required, and converts itself to a system daemon that continues to run when the spawning Rexx process terminates. Rick On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick McGuire wrote: I've applied these patches, but it would be helpful in the future if you submitted patches using the Patches Tracker system: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=119701atid=684732 Oops, had no idea it were there :) It's strange that you get similar symptoms with both 3.2.0 and 4.0, since those are radically different implementations. My best guess given the date you've provided is a problem with the semaphores, but that's only a guess based on the fact you're seeing problems with both versions. I'll have to root through code and docs to understand better the implemention of OORexx. Without any study, it appears there are multiple processes running when OORexx runs, right, since I can ^C out of rexx leaving another rexx running in some fashion? -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] 4.0 on Solaris
Jack, I have a pair of Ultra 20's on which I plan to install ooRexx. Is there anything not obvious that I should know? I also have a SPARC server that will want to place it on, as well, but that is far into the future. All three machines are SOL10. -Original Message- From: Jack Woehr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 21:27 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] 4.0 on Solaris Moritz Hoffmann wrote: Jack Woehr wrote: Plodding along in the background at compiling 4.0 on Solaris Is this Solaris for x86 or SPARC? x86 ... I have two (old) Sparc machines, both running OpenBSD. They're a bit slow for developing ObjectRexx. My Solaris for x86 is from 2006. -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls
Thanks for the advice, Jack, but PigIron requires Big Iron, like for VM. I am limited to Solaris, etc. Also, Java class libraries are less than useless to me; I know COBOL and HLASM, not web pages and stuff. I am making a stab at Rony's BSF4REXX, but that is suffering priority interference. Thanks again, but the tool's requirements preclude my using it. Do you know of a VM/CMS workalike that runs under SUSE? _ From: Jack Woehr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:02 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls Dan Carter wrote: I am building tools to aid in my mainframe-to-unix practice Have you looked at PigIron http://pigiron.sourceforge.net yet? In the course of striving to automate testing, I accidentally coded a complete OORexx interface to z/VM SMAPI :) -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls
Thanks, Mark! This is a big help. Rick is right: none of this is so esoteric that a competent technician cannot easily learn it. My problem is that is all so unfamiliar and with such a different paradigm that at first everything I do is wrong. There is so much to learn besides the specific task at hand. There is, however, only one way to learn to swim and that is to get into the water. Like many others, I have three innate horrors: stepping on something, like I almost did, writing bugs that others see, which I do all too frequently, and looking stupid, which is, I guess, unavoidable. I pulled down the 3.2 source tree to a directory structure (not svn) and I am now looking through it. If I can write Autocoder I can surely apprehend this code. When I think I have the understanding, I will work on the task asking for a file in each directory explaining the contents. At least when I finish that I will understand the structure of the project. As far as defining a mission: ooRexx is a general-purpose programming language with OO syntax that is interpreted in the manner of Java and the .NET languages and which may be installed on nearly every modern execution platform. In its simplest form it is a very flexible scripting language and in its full form, with BSF4REXX, GTK+, FTP, and RDBMS connectivity, it is an ideal Enterprise programming tool for functional tasks as well as for glue in the heterogenous environments which have become common. It is easier to understand and simpler to write than C++, having had little of the committee politics, and it is actively maintained and enhanced to meet the emerging challenges of our industry. It can be surrounded with a full complement of development tools and for a small to medium-sized shop it can provide strong productivity gains and ROI over proprietary toolsets. For large, Enterprise environments it can mesh with the other elements of the environment and still provide the same benefits as it does in the smaller shops. Prototyping is only one small part of its advantages; Open Object Rexx is a programming tool whose depth and breadth is unmatched by similar but more narrowly-focused tools. -Original Message- From: Mark Miesfeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 22:32 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Dan Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick has a point. As usual. grin Now, if someone will just give me the userid and password I need to actually enter the repository and look at it in Tortoise, I will proceed. The message box is attached. You don't need a user name and password to just check out the source, only to commit back into the repository. I only use the command line version of svn, so I am hazy on what is needed for TortiseSVN. With the command line version you would just name the portion of the repository you wanted to check out: E:\work.ooRexx\3.xsvn co https://oorexx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/oorexx/main/trunk my.source Amy.source\oorexx.ver Amy.source\unix-like-build.txt Amy.source\rexxapi Amy.source\rexxapi\server Amy.source\rexxapi\server\QueueManager.cpp Amy.source\rexxapi\server\APIServer.cpp Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\unix Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\unix\APIService.cpp Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\unix\rxapid.in Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\Makefile.am Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\windows Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\windows\rxapi.rc Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\windows\APIService.cpp Amy.source\rexxapi\server\platform\windows\rxapi.ico Amy.source\rexxapi\server\QueueManager.hpp The 'co' (check out) command is all on one line. With tortoiseSVN, right click inside a directory (in Windows Explorer) where you want to download to. Pick SVN Checkout from the menu, picture attached. Fill in the URL of Repository field with the information. In my command line example it would be: svn co https://oorexx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/oorexx/main/trunk Fill in the Checkout directory with where you want it put, in my example it would be: E:\work.ooRexx\3.x\my.source and go. You can also browse the repository in a web browser by going to: http://oorexx.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oorexx/ -- Mark Miesfeld - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls
I must agree, Bill. ooRexx is too large and complex a product for the average user (who may not specialize in it) to get and keep a good feel for. When ooRexx support for GTK is released this problem will be compounded. I am building tools to aid in my mainframe-to-unix practice, and it seems like every day the learning curve gets steeper or longer or both. I would volunteer to help with the documentation demands, but I fear I do not have the needed savvy. -Original Message- From: Bill Turner, WB4ALM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 05:50 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls I like the idea of a networking manual, but still like the idea of cross-referencing at some level. /s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls
Rick has a point. Acting on counsel I examined the SF site more closely and I found an extensive list of things to do. I do not possess the C++ skills or the knowledge of the product architecture I would need to participate with David, Rick, or Mark, but I did find something on the list that I think I can do, and, Rick is correct, it will give me some idea of how to work with the development environment. Now, if someone will just give me the userid and password I need to actually enter the repository and look at it in Tortoise, I will proceed. The message box is attached. -Original Message- From: Rick McGuire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 15:50 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls Yes, the solution is always have the already overbooked core team do more. I'm getting tired of that answer too. Rick On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick McGuire wrote: The continued health of this project requires an active, growing community. IBM let ObjectRexx off the leash about eight years late for that. If ooRexx had been open sourced before Ruby came forward ... sigh ... It *is* a very small community and the language doesn't have a specific mission. PHP does simple websites. Ruby does fancier ones. Perl does sysadmin and CGI. What does ObjectRexx address that would have people flying around the country to conferences and embracing it like they do for Ruby and Perl? The problem isn't so much that you need more of the techies who play with OORexx already. The problem is that you (we) need to enunciate a mission for ObjectRexx and go recruit more techies who stand behind such a mission into our little ObjectRexx army. What can ObjectRexx do (aside from be fun to program in) better than the other open source languages with established communities? Answer that and you answer our labor shortage. For me the answer is, It's a very easy scripting language and BSF4Rexx made it the easiest way to script Java. Until I started my own Open Source Project PigIron to provide Java access to z/VM SMAPI I liked Object Rexx (since 1995) but had never before found the value proposition to use it for anything real. Now I've got a value proposition, this complete ObjectRexx interface to z/VM SMAPI that started as simply a testing tool for the underlying Java code. In the meantime, Rick, are you leveraging the (admittedly few) resources that are already at your disposal to try to get help? have you broken this down into some well-factored tasks/assignments are these tasks posted in the Tasks section of the ooRexx SourceForge site? Do you have recruitment notices posted on SourceForge? Also, why don't we try to convince editor Jon Erickson to hook you up with a Guru blog on Dr. Dobb's CodeTalk and you can publicize a bit and maybe draw some users in there? I've certainly been mentioning ObjectRexx there, e.g. Calling Java from Open Object Rexx Maybe we can start a buzz as the youngsters say. -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel attachment: SF_AUTH.jpg- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Some questions
Good Lord! That is as bad as me. My TZ factor is -7. I'm sitting next to a server rack trying to install GTK+, and being educated on MinGW. I am developing extensions to my store of colorful phrases. Have a good day! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 00:12 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Some questions Early or late depending on how you look at it. Not only do they charge you for wifi access, but they make you sit next to the slot machines. Jon 2008/9/16 Dan Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon, isn't it a little early to be haunting the bar? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 23:56 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: [Oorexx-devel] Some questions Hi guys, writing from the hotel bar, so perhaps not well formed questions. Test suite, as I understand it, assertequals looks for a non-strict equality, yet it fails when I compare the default rexxQueue with the string session. [failure] [20080915 11:29:03.468000] Test: TEST_GET Class: RexxQueue.testGroup File: D:\orxSVN\test\trunk\ooRexx\base\class\RexxQueue.testGroup Line: 249 Failed: assertEquals Expected: [[SESSION], identityHash=242597249] Actual: [[SESSION], identityHash=265817940] Message: subtest 27: default queue named session I'm not sure what the identity hash is, perhaps thar gives a clue. Also, if one uses the delete method of a named rexxqueue with items queued, the interpreter never seems to come back - at least in the context of the test suite. I don't think that can be down to my couple of changed lines of code? Also, Rick, I suspect that your rexx_clear_queue method doesn't clear the queue - but don't know how to debug it. there is a more general point here, given that I can't get my tiny changes to work, should I commit them anyway, knowing that they fail, so that others can point me in the right direction? that's all for now. Keep up the good work, Jon - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100 http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] http://www.oorexx.org/ is not found
I just now found it OK. BTW, the page with its uncluttered look and gentle colors is superb. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ashley Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:35 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] http://www.oorexx.org/ is not found I cannot. Neither my ATT DNS servers or the IBM DNS servers can locate the domain. Thanks, W. David Ashley IBM Systems and Technology Group Lab Services Open Object Rexx Team Mobile Phone: 512-289-7506 Inactive hide details for Rick McGuire ---09/02/2008 01:28:47 PM---I'm able to get to it ok.Rick McGuire ---09/02/2008 01:28:47 PM---I'm able to get to it ok. Rick McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/02/2008 01:26 PM Please respond to Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net cc Subject Re: [Oorexx-devel] http://www.oorexx.org/ is not found I'm able to get to it ok. Rick On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Jack Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.oorexx.org/ is not found and oorexx.sourceforge.net refers to it ... is my browser sick or the DNS skewed? -- Jack J. Woehr# Self-delusion is http://www.well.com/~jax # half the battle! http://www.softwoehr.com # - Zippy the Pinhead - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100 http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100 http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ url=/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel image001.gifimage002.gifimage003.gif- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Website
It looks good, David. I vote to go with it. Thank Mike (not Cowlishaw) for his support. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ashley Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 13:50 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Website All - FYI, I have been working on a new RexxLA and ooRexx web site. The new RexxLA website still has some work to be done but the new ooRexx web site is ready for testing. You can try it out at http://www.holmes4.com/ It has some nice new features, a much cleaner design and a new structure. The content is mostly the same but it will be much easier to update the site with this new style. Please let me know what you think. I want to make this live ASAP. Thanks, W. David Ashley IBM Systems and Technology Group Lab Services Open Object Rexx Team Mobile Phone: 512-289-7506 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Website
That did not come out the way I intended. I meant no slight to Mike Cowlishaw; rather, I was referring to the Mike sometimes known as Adam Selene and generally associated with Holmes IV. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Carter Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 15:20 To: 'Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Website It looks good, David. I vote to go with it. Thank Mike (not Cowlishaw) for his support. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ashley Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 13:50 To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Website All - FYI, I have been working on a new RexxLA and ooRexx web site. The new RexxLA website still has some work to be done but the new ooRexx web site is ready for testing. You can try it out at http://www.holmes4.com/ It has some nice new features, a much cleaner design and a new structure. The content is mostly the same but it will be much easier to update the site with this new style. Please let me know what you think. I want to make this live ASAP. Thanks, W. David Ashley IBM Systems and Technology Group Lab Services Open Object Rexx Team Mobile Phone: 512-289-7506 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
