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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-22 Thread Terry Fuller


Thank you René

On 2022-06-22 03:55, René Jansen wrote:
I think so too. This is why I built the following pipeline to make 
sure this page is updated daily:


➜  test git:(master) cat oorexx_downloads.nrx
out =''
address pipe with output stem out

'pipe (pipnm) literal curl 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0beta/ '-

'| command '-
'| split '-
'| locate +href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files+ '-
'| nlocate /readme.md/  specs 7-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 2-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| o: fanout '-
'| specs 77-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 10-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| b: juxtapose '-
'| sort desc '-
'| specs /[/ 1 1-5 nw 7-11 nw 13-* nw /)/ nw '-
'| change /href/ /] (href/ '-
'| cons ? o: '-
'| insert / / '-
'| b:'

do i=1 to out[0]
  say out[i]
end

As you can see, it takes the RSS feed from SF and turns it into a 
Markdown page. I will have something by the end of this week.


Best regards,

René.


On 21 Jun 2022, at 22:07, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:

I think the documentation pointers should point to Sourceforge

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx-docs/

with the appropriate subfolder renamed (currently 5.0.0beta)

The documentation can be built automatically (some work needed still 
to rebuild only the changed docs + upload)


Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




Am 21.06.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Terry Fuller :

On the topic of documentation...

I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 
GA release, but...


All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc 
<http://oorexx.org/doc> result in 404 errors.  If memory serves (and 
sometimes it doesn't, corrections gratefully received) we now have 
Jenkins producing both PDF and html documentation... can that be set 
up to push the build results to the website? alternatively, change 
the links to point to the built files?


Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out 
of date (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 
is GA the brochure really should be updated... also might be better 
implemented in something more open source than ms.ppt.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:
Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done 
by Gil (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).





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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-21 Thread Terry Fuller


Ok all,

I'm going to start triage on the bugs, documentation and task tickets on 
SourceForge, I'm going to ask for a freeze sometime in the near future.  
I'd like to ask all creators of tickets to examine them and mark any in 
milestone 5.0.0 that are not showstoppers to change the milestone to 
'next release'.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:

Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil (and 
Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).


On 21 Jun 2022, at 13:57, René Jansen  wrote:

Hi Terry,

I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; 
Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From 
memory:

1) Website very outdated
2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)
3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot remember, but speed decrease flagged by Walter 
and others)

Maybe it is best to use the SourceForge issue tracking for this purpose; sort 
the issues into version 5.0.0 and beyond, solve the 5.0.0 issues - then release.

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-21 Thread Terry Fuller


On the topic of documentation...

I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 GA 
release, but...


All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc result in 404 
errors.  If memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't, corrections 
gratefully received) we now have Jenkins producing both PDF and html 
documentation... can that be set up to push the build results to the 
website? alternatively, change the links to point to the built files?


Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out of 
date (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 is GA 
the brochure really should be updated... also might be better 
implemented in something more open source than ms.ppt.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:

Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil (and 
Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).




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[Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

2022-06-17 Thread Terry Fuller

Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from 
going GA?


If so, can someone point me to it?

If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] rxsocket example

2021-07-13 Thread Terry Fuller


Hi René & all,

To be clear, I am instantiating an object but I haven't gotten an error 
doing so... I was just reading the doc to understand how to do this and 
I found the sample case to be odd.


For example if I were to write a line like:

-1~errno

I would expect something like -1 does not understand the message errno.  
The if statement in the doc seemed to be identical to that case (if s=-1 
then ... s~errno...).


So, the socket is instantiated even if it's value is set to -1?


On 2021-07-12 12:45, René Jansen wrote:

Hi Terry,

just for my understanding of what you mean: you instantiated an 
object, which’ particular purpose was to open a tcp socket. The fact 
that this did go wrong, does not mean you cannot send the object a 
message of ‘let me know the error code of what happened when you tried 
to open the socket’. You are not sending anything over the socket (it 
is most prpbably not there) - you are communicating with your object.


Or seems something else wrong?

best regards,

René.

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Hello all,

I'm working my way thru a project that makes use of rxsockets.   in

*ooRexx Documentation 5.0.0 **
**Open Object Rexx RxSock TCP/IP Socket Functions Reference**
**Edition 1 *

i found:

-- get a new socket s = .socket~new() if s = -1 then do say 'Error' 
s~errno() 'creating server socket' return end


but... if s is -1, sending a message to it to extract an error 
message number seems wrong; at least to me.  Am I missing something?


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[Oorexx-devel] rxsocket example

2021-07-12 Thread Terry Fuller


Hello all,

I'm working my way thru a project that makes use of rxsockets. in

   *ooRexx Documentation 5.0.0 **
   **Open Object Rexx RxSock TCP/IP Socket Functions Reference**
   **Edition 1 *

i found:

-- get a new socket s = .socket~new() if s = -1 then do say 'Error' 
s~errno() 'creating server socket' return end


but... if s is -1, sending a message to it to extract an error message 
number seems wrong; at least to me.  Am I missing something?


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[Oorexx-devel] Errors building mod_rexx.so

2021-06-12 Thread Terry Fuller


Hello all,

I'm trying to straighten out the rather convoluted build process for 
mod_rexx on linux.  After compiling and linking the module, apache 
reports an error while loading the module:


Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rexx.so into server: 
/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rexx.so: undefined symbol: RexxVariablePool


I'm not sure just what I'm doing wrong, here...  nm shows that 
RexxVariablePool (and others) are 'U' (undefined I presume); 
RexxVariablePool as 'T' in Should RexxVariablePool be linked into my .so 
file?  Or should it be loaded at runtime?


I've tried including path to librexx.so and librexxapi.so in the hope 
that this would resolve the symbol, but linker complains...


/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/local/lib/librexx.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/local/lib/librexxapi.so

They really are there... I've attached a screenshot of a directory list 
of /bin/local/lib .


I've also tried just specifying just the library path, but get claims 
the path cannot be found.


I've attached the output from the link step of apxs just in case...

Finally, I'm running ooRexx 5.0.0 12268

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/usr/share/apr-1.0/build/libtool  --mode=compile --tag=disable-static 
x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -prefer-pic -pipe -g -O2 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat 
-Werror=format-security  -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2   -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT 
-D_GNU_SOURCE  -pthread  -I/usr/include/apache2  -I/usr/include/apr-1.0   
-I/usr/include/apr-1.0 -I/usr/include -Wno-format-security  -c -o rxfuncs.lo 
rxfuncs.c && touch rxfuncs.slo
libtool: compile:  x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -pipe -g -O2 -fstack-protector-strong 
-Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -DLINUX 
-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -pthread -I/usr/include/apache2 
-I/usr/include/apr-1.0 -I/usr/include/apr-1.0 -I/usr/include 
-Wno-format-security -c rxfuncs.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/rxfuncs.o
/usr/share/apr-1.0/build/libtool  --mode=link --tag=disable-static 
x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro 
-Wl,-z,now-o mod_rexx.la  -l/usr/local/lib/librexx.so 
-l/usr/local/lib/librexxapi.so -rpath /usr/lib/apache2/modules -module 
-avoid-versionrxfuncs.lo handlers.lo dirconfig.lo mod_rexx.lo
libtool: link: x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -shared  -fPIC -DPIC  .libs/rxfuncs.o 
.libs/handlers.o .libs/dirconfig.o .libs/mod_rexx.o   
-l/usr/local/lib/librexx.so -l/usr/local/lib/librexxapi.so  -Wl,--as-needed 
-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z -Wl,relro -Wl,-z -Wl,now   -Wl,-soname 
-Wl,mod_rexx.so -o .libs/mod_rexx.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/local/lib/librexx.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/local/lib/librexxapi.so
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=65536
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[Oorexx-devel] Compiling ooRexx 5.0.0 for Raspberry Pi

2021-06-08 Thread Terry Fuller


Hello all,

I'm starting a project on a Raspberry Pi and need to set up a 
development environment.  I want to compile ooRexx 5.0.0 for the 
Raspberry Pi.  After much research, I'm setting up cross compiling as 
outlined in this github wiki: cross compilers 
 for 
Raspberry Pi...


I've seen mention of folks compiling 4.2.x for the Pi, but haven't seen 
much in the way of details, nothing on 5.0.0.  I couldn't tell from the 
pages I found whether native or cross compiling was used.  Any insights  
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[Oorexx-devel] Help with Sourceforge on Mod_Rexx project

2021-05-06 Thread Terry Fuller


Hello all:

I've finally managed to upload my work on mod_rexx for apache 
2.4--committed using svn.  The files are accessible under the 'code' tab 
on Sourceforge 
(https://sourceforge.net/p/modrexx/code/HEAD/tree/releases/2.4.0/). But 
not available under the 'files' tab.  The old release is still the 
download default.


I have easter-egged around trying to figure out what to do, but struck 
out every time.


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] mod_rexx Linker Unresolved Symbols...

2021-04-08 Thread Terry Fuller


Hi Erich,

Thanks, yes, that's where I started... and it worked until I changed 
something (need to take better notes when I change stuff, especially 
when in new territory).  Things are ok on the Windows side, but I've 
gotten myself in a terrible snarl on LInux. sigh!


On 2021-04-08 02:25, Erich Steinböck wrote:

Hi Terry,
you can find Dave's mod_oorexx makefiles at 
https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/code-0/HEAD/tree/incubator/mod_oorexx 


Maybe you can work from there.


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[Oorexx-devel] mod_rexx Linker Unresolved Symbols...

2021-04-07 Thread Terry Fuller


Ok, I've gotten past the compile time errors, thanks Rick and Erich.

Now I have a mod_rexx.so for Linux, but when I start httpd I get an 
error message that RexxVariablePool is undefined.  When I examine the 
.so file with the 'nm' command, I see many lines like this, including 
one for RexxVariablePool:


 U RexxAllocateMemory
 U RexxFreeMemory
 U RexxRegisterExitExe
 U RexxRegisterFunctionExe
 U RexxStart
 U RexxVariablePool

I specify -l rexx (for librexx.so) and -l rexxapi (for librexxapi.so) 
and -L/usr/local/lib (which is where they're located), but apparently 
neither file has these symbols. Can anyone point me in the right direction?


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[Oorexx-devel] Errors compiling mod_rexx

2021-03-31 Thread Terry Fuller


Hello all,

I'm having more problems building mod_rexx.  I was earlier able to build 
mod_rexx for both windows and linux (linux mint 20 specifically).  I'm 
now trying to eliminate differences between the source files for each 
operating system.


I have source that builds properly on Windows (Windows 10), but the same 
source in Linux gets compile (gcc)  errors:


 * In file included from mod_rexx.c:27:
   mod_rexx.h:153:40: error: unknown type name ‘LONG’

I was getting similar errors for 'PSZ' as well, but finally chased that 
down to a typedef in rexx.h that was conditioned on 'OOREXX_COMPATIBILITY'


Most of the LONG references are associated with return codes... is there 
some standard (portable) type that I should be using instead of LONG?


Rather than requiring a compatibility flag to be set, is there some 
standard type I should use in place of PSZ?


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] [devel] Seven years since the last release

2021-01-15 Thread Terry Fuller

Yes, I have modrexx running under apache httpd 2.4.x on Windows 10 and 
Linux Mint 19.3...  David Ashley, the original author, has given me 
update authority for the SF site.  I've fallen down on actually getting 
my updates installed  Sorry!.  I'll try and get all the fiddly bits 
correct and upload the new code next week.


On 2021-01-12 05:51, Bill Turner, WB4ALM wrote:
(snip)
- - -

Has anybody ever gotten RexxMod to work under current software versions
of Apache and ooRexx (especially on Linux)?

I have not been able to do so, and I do not have enough LINUX internals
knowledge to get it to install correctly.  But I do have several 
applications

that could make HEAVY use of RexxMod if I could get it to install.
Most of the apps, would be used by area Amateur Radio operators
that are involved in Emergency Communications type functions.

/s/ Bill Turner, wb4alm


(snip)


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] W. David Ashley

2020-07-01 Thread Terry Fuller



On 2020-07-01 09:22, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Terry,

On 23.06.2020 00:29, Terry Fuller wrote:

Does anyone have an email address for David Ashley?  I've modified his mod-rexx 
to run in 64-bit
mode on Apache httpd 2.4 and I'd like to get in touch with him about updating 
Sourceforge with my
changes.

did anything come about it? Where could one get your 64-bit version if need be?

Cheers

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[Oorexx-devel] W. David Ashley

2020-06-22 Thread Terry Fuller


Hi all,

Does anyone have an email address for David Ashley?  I've modified his 
mod-rexx to run in 64-bit mode on Apache httpd 2.4 and I'd like to get 
in touch with him about updating Sourceforge with my changes.


If need be you could forward this note to him, let him decide if he 
wants to contact me.


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Error 98.903: Unable to load library "rexxgtk"

2019-08-23 Thread Terry Fuller



On 2019-08-23 10:27, Terry Fuller wrote:


Hi Erich, Gil,

Thanks for help... I think I'm in deeper trouble than I realized...  It 
seems that the gtk downloads referenced in 'windows-building' are all 
32-bit programs.  I now assume that I must compile rexxgtk as 32-bit 
programs to match the gtk modules. Can you confirm this?


I now also think that I must replace my 64-bit ooRexx installation with 
a 32-bit one in order to test my rexxGTK.  Can anyone confirm that?  or 
can I run a 32-bit dll from a 64-bit ooRexx setup?


In my first attempt, I (naively) compiled all the rexxGTK modules as 
64-bit programs.  Is it really possible to upgrade 32- to 64 bit code 
with just a re-compile? (Recognizing that I'd have to match that up with 
a 64-bit GTK or compile it and all it's dependencies to match.)




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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Error 98.903: Unable to load library "rexxgtk"

2019-08-23 Thread Terry Fuller

Hi Erich, thanks for this... I built with msys/mingw and after your 
reply and some googling around, I think I'm going to have to go back to 
square one and build according to windows-building.txt and msvc build 
tools.  I'll read that doc more carefully and will update with anything  
useful that I find.


On 2019-08-23 06:19, Erich Steinböck wrote:
Hi Terry, on Windows ooRexx uses LoadLibrary() to load the dll.  
LoadLibrary first searches the directory where ooRexx is installed, so 
that would be the suggested place to put your rexxgtk.dll.


rexxgtk.dll should be named in all lowercase, as rexxgtk.cls uses this 
name to reference it.


libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll (from the downloaded  msys/mingw/

I'm not sure whether any mingw-built library can interoperate with 
MSVC-built ooRexx code.

I think you'll have to build-from-source everything you want to use

Did you build according to windows-building.txt?
Were any changes necessary to steps listed?  Could you update 
windows-building.txt for whatever you had to do differently?


Thanks ... Erich

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:10 AM Terry Fuller <mailto:t...@pgmguild.com>> wrote:


I've now built rexxgtk... But the first test routine fails with


Error 98.903:  Unable to load library "rexxgtk"

I've added the library that contain rexxgtk.dll (my newly built
one), and the library that contains

libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll (from the downloaded msys/mingw/...)

Can anyone let me know what is the search path for DLL files
referenced by oorexx LIBRARY names? Or offer pointers on
diagnosing this error message?

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[Oorexx-devel] Error 98.903: Unable to load library "rexxgtk"

2019-08-21 Thread Terry Fuller


I've now built rexxgtk... But the first test routine fails with


Error 98.903:  Unable to load library "rexxgtk"

I've added the library that contain rexxgtk.dll (my newly built one), 
and the library that contains


libgtk-win32-2.0-0.dll (from the downloaded  msys/mingw/...)

Can anyone let me know what is the search path for DLL files referenced 
by oorexx LIBRARY names? Or offer pointers on diagnosing this error message?


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[Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Re: ooRexxUnit for 5.0.0

2018-11-30 Thread Terry Fuller

Sorry, reply didn't go to the list...

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexxUnit for 5.0.0
Date:   Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:04:00 -0800
From:   Terry Fuller 
To: René Jansen 

Hmmm... that link points at (ReadMe):/ooRexxUnit 4.2.0 snapshot 06 Quick Start /

is that ok to use w/5.0?

On 2018-11-29 20:39, René Jansen wrote:

Hi Terry,

I get that from svn.code.sf.net/p/oorexx/code-0/test/trunk 
<http://svn.code.sf.net/p/oorexx/code-0/test/trunk>

hth,

best regards,

René.

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Hi all,

I've installed Linux Mint 19 on my old T43.  I was able to download 
and compile (!) ooRexx 5.0 from trunk, so I now have a 32-bit (T43) 
ooRexx interpreter on my system.  I'd really like to run the test 
suite against my new install, but I'm unable to find it.  I can find 
the 4.2.0 test suite, but the readme is emphatic about matching the 
test suite to the interpreter.

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[Oorexx-devel] ooRexxUnit for 5.0.0

2018-11-29 Thread Terry Fuller


Hi all,

I've installed Linux Mint 19 on my old T43.  I was able to download and 
compile (!) ooRexx 5.0 from trunk, so I now have a 32-bit (T43) ooRexx 
interpreter on my system.  I'd really like to run the test suite against 
my new install, but I'm unable to find it.  I can find the 4.2.0 test 
suite, but the readme is emphatic about matching the test suite to the 
interpreter.


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Calling Programs in a .dll

2017-07-12 Thread Terry Fuller


Thanks to Rony, Gil, Jon, Michael.

Gil:  Yes, please.  I'd love to have your example.  I'd also like to 
know what you're using to compile stuff for ooRrexx on Windows.  After 
chasing my tail for the last three days, I've decided to try and 
recompile David Ashley's mod-rexx for the current release of Apache 
httpd.  I haven't a clue as to what tools I should be using (dreaming of 
really ancient days--finding the JCL to compile a FORTRAN program 
punched into cards stapled to the bulletin board. sigh).



On 2017-07-12 09:45, Gil Barmwater wrote:


Terry,

I have used GCI successfully and it works as advertised.  It is, 
however, limited to 32-bit ooRexx so if you need a 64-bit solution, 
GCI won't help.


Because of this, I have redone the solution I wrote that used GCI to 
use the native API mentioned later in this thread instead.  If you'd 
like, I can post or send you the two versions of one of the methods I 
wrote so you can see how to do it.


Best regards,
Gil

On 7/11/2017 4:00 PM, Jon Wolfers wrote:

Rexx-GCI

I've not used it myself, but it can be downloaded here 
<http://rexx-gci.sourceforge.net/>




On 11 July 2017 at 20:24, Michael Lueck <mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com 
<mailto:mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com>> wrote:


Greetings Terry

Terry Fuller wrote:

Is there a comparable mechanism for ooRexx on windows?

Is this possible?  Can someone point to documentation?




I can recall some developer building an interface to bridge Rexx
to any Windows DLL.

Otherwise the DLL must be special coded to allow Rexx to
automatically load functions in it.

I cannot seem to find the correct keywords to locate what I am
recalling.

The solution involved I believe a Rexx loadable DLL as well as
perhaps a configuration file to assist with function mapping in
the native Windows DLL.

I am thankful,

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[Oorexx-devel] Calling Programs in a .dll

2017-07-11 Thread Terry Fuller

On the mainframes where I grew up, I could call arbitrary programs from 
a rexx routine.  The invoked routines could be called as if from JCL 
(LINK and ATTACH:  single parameter to a string preceded by length 
indication) or  internal call (LINKMVS, LINKPGM, ATTCHMVS, and 
ATTCHPGM:  a list of one or more addresses, last address flagged, to 
parameters).


Is there a comparable mechanism for ooRexx on windows?  I'd like to make 
use of a bunch of functions packaged in a .dll (CDECL if that helps).


Is this possible?  Can someone point to documentation?

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Help Compiling mod_rexx

2017-01-24 Thread Terry Fuller

There are a couple of places that offer binaries for httpd for windows.  
The ApacheLounge's download did have ap_config.h.  I used that copy and 
got a bit further--about a dozen compile errors :-(  Now I'm trudging 
thru an online C++ tutorial :-[



On 2017-01-24 15:25, CVBruce wrote:
So this is windows a windows system.  I guess I should have realized 
that from the backslashes in the path name below.


Bruce
On Jan 24, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Terry Fuller <t...@pgmguild.com 
<mailto:t...@pgmguild.com>> wrote:


I have not installed 'apache2-dev'.  I've installed the binaries from 
Apache Haus for httpd-2.4.25.   After reading your note I looked at 
the same binaries from ApacheLounge that package has a copy of 
ap_config.h.  I'll install that one and try again.


Thanks!


On 2017-01-23 22:39, CVBruce wrote:

On my debian based system the file is in the package ‘apache2-dev’  have you 
installed that package?



On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Terry Fuller<t...@pgmguild.com>  wrote:

Hello all,

I'm trying to compile mod_rexx for httpd 2.4 (the available binaries are
compiled for 2.2) and for 64-bit operation.  I'm getting an error
message from the make:

\httpd-2.4.25-x64-vc14\Apache24\include\httpd.h(44): fatal error C1083: Cannot 
open include file: 'ap_config.h': No such file or directory

Sure enough, httpd.h refers to ap_config.h, and I don't have that file
('tho I do have ap_config_layout.h .  I've googled around but haven't
found anyone else complaining about this.  I have found the file
described in the httpd documentation, and several cases of files named
ap_config.h


NowI'm a complete novice here, so this may be a case of "first check to
see if the keypunch is plugged into the power socket"  -- with that in
mind, can anyone here point me in the right direction?


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Help Compiling mod_rexx

2017-01-24 Thread Terry Fuller

I have not installed 'apache2-dev'.  I've installed the binaries from 
Apache Haus for httpd-2.4.25.   After reading your note I looked at the 
same binaries from ApacheLounge that package has a copy of ap_config.h.  
I'll install that one and try again.


Thanks!


On 2017-01-23 22:39, CVBruce wrote:

On my debian based system the file is in the package ‘apache2-dev’  have you 
installed that package?



On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Terry Fuller <t...@pgmguild.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I'm trying to compile mod_rexx for httpd 2.4 (the available binaries are
compiled for 2.2) and for 64-bit operation.  I'm getting an error
message from the make:

\httpd-2.4.25-x64-vc14\Apache24\include\httpd.h(44): fatal error C1083: Cannot 
open include file: 'ap_config.h': No such file or directory

Sure enough, httpd.h refers to ap_config.h, and I don't have that file
('tho I do have ap_config_layout.h .  I've googled around but haven't
found anyone else complaining about this.  I have found the file
described in the httpd documentation, and several cases of files named
ap_config.h


NowI'm a complete novice here, so this may be a case of "first check to
see if the keypunch is plugged into the power socket"  -- with that in
mind, can anyone here point me in the right direction?


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[Oorexx-devel] Help Compiling mod_rexx

2017-01-23 Thread Terry Fuller

Hello all,

I'm trying to compile mod_rexx for httpd 2.4 (the available binaries are 
compiled for 2.2) and for 64-bit operation.  I'm getting an error 
message from the make:

\httpd-2.4.25-x64-vc14\Apache24\include\httpd.h(44): fatal error C1083: Cannot 
open include file: 'ap_config.h': No such file or directory

Sure enough, httpd.h refers to ap_config.h, and I don't have that file 
('tho I do have ap_config_layout.h .  I've googled around but haven't 
found anyone else complaining about this.  I have found the file 
described in the httpd documentation, and several cases of files named 
ap_config.h


NowI'm a complete novice here, so this may be a case of "first check to 
see if the keypunch is plugged into the power socket"  -- with that in 
mind, can anyone here point me in the right direction?


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] What impact will Microsoft's removal of cmd.exe from Windows 10 have on ooRexx?

2016-12-07 Thread Terry Fuller

The replacement for cmd.exe is powershell.  It's already available in 
several releases, alongside cmd.exe.  It is, however not backward 
compatible... things like invoking a program from the current directory 
in powershell requires .\pgm.rex rather than pgm.rex.  Several other 
non-compatible changes too.


On 2016-12-07 11:32, Michael Lueck wrote:
> Greetings Rony,
>
> Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>> what are your sources?
>
> "Say goodbye to the MS-DOS command prompt"
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/3147668/operating-systems/say-goodbye-to-the-ms-dos-command-prompt.html
>
>
>> If MS would remove cmd.exe most programs (including their owns) would break. 
>> Therefore it is very
>> unlikely that they remove cmd.exe support.
>
> I do not disagree with the ripples this will cause.
>
> I am thankful,
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[Oorexx-devel] Unable to Install ooDialog 4.2.3 with ooRexx 5.0.0

2016-08-08 Thread Terry Fuller

Not sure whether I'm doing something wrong or if its a bug... I get an 
exclamation warning dialog box titled "ooDialog 4.2.3.9853 Setup" when I 
try to install ooDialog with ooRexx 5.0.0

The text of the warning says:

A version of ooRexx, greater than or equal to
version 4.1.0, must be installed prior to the
installation of ooDialog 4.2.3.9852(beta).

The installed ooRexx appears to be 5.0.0.0.

The installer is aborting.

And the only available action is "OK" :-(

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] to do list

2016-07-20 Thread Terry Fuller

Can someone check on the 5.0.0 builds in SF?  I think that both are 
32-bit amode builds, despite the naming.



On 2016-07-18 10:42, Terry Fuller wrote:


Oh!  I did that, and it worked, sort of... the zip I downloaded 
purported to be 64-bit, but its really the 32-bit mode code. What the 
heck??



On 2016-07-18 10:28, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

On 18.07.2016 19:22, Terry Fuller wrote:


More info...

Trying to do the deed manually.  I'm able to rename the folders 
after stopping rxapi.  When switching to 5.0.0 rxapi fails to 
start--because the path to rxapi.exe in 'services' is D:\ooRexx, 
while in the 5.0.0 unzipped, it is in D:\ooRexx\bin-small.  What is 
the reason for the additional directory level?  Can I just eliminate it?



Just try it out!
:)

Ad name "bin-small": that is just the sub directory in the 
zip-archive where the 32-bit ooRexx files are stored.


Good luck!

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P.S.: Hope to meet you at this year's International Rexx symposium in 
Tampa, Florida, as announced by RexxLA!




On 2016-07-17 17:31, Terry Fuller wrote:


Hmm

Running with admin authority doesn't seem to help (tho' only one 
'access denied' message this time...)


C:\Windows\system32>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0  to 5.0.0
Access is denied.
A duplicate file name exists, or the file
cannot be found.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

Is there a way to distinguish between the case of duplicate v. 
missing file name?


The relevant file names:

D:\TAF>rexxtry
REXX-ooRexx_4.2.0(MT)_64-bit 6.04 22 Feb 2014
  rexxtry.rex lets you interactively try REXX statements.
Each string is executed when you hit Enter.
Enter 'call tell' for a description of the features.
  Go on - try a few...Enter 'exit' to end.

  rexxtry.rex:  Enter 'exit' to end.   Or '?' for online REXX help.
exit

D:\TAF>dir d:\oo*
 Volume in drive D is DATA
 Volume Serial Number is D0A9-18AB

 Directory of d:\

2016-07-13  15:24  ooRexx
2016-07-13  14:06  ooRexx4.1.1
2016-07-15  11:46  ooRexx5.0.0
2014-05-05  15:40 oorexxdoc-2.2.1b
   0 File(s)  0 bytes
   4 Dir(s)  103,847,501,824 bytes free


On 2016-07-15 14:08, Gil Barmwater wrote:


Progress indeed!  The key is the message "Access is denied."  This 
means the renames failed so you are still on 4.2.0.  The console 
screen should be running "elevated" with a Windows-generated 
prompt for permission before it starts.  If you don't allow the 
console to run "elevated", this is what you will see. There is no 
way to bypass the Windows prompt for permission so you need to 
reply that you want the console to make the modifications.


Hope that helps...

On 7/15/2016 4:37 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:


OK, some progress... I deleted the ooRexx4.2.0 folder and running 
orxver now offers to let me switch to 4.1.1 or 5.0.0, but... when 
I select either, I'm left in 4.2.2 The console screen shows:


D:\>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0  to 4.1.1
Access is denied.
Access is denied.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

as if it's working, but rexxtry still shows 4.2.0


On 2016-07-15 12:45, Gil Barmwater wrote:


OK, I'm going to guess that you 1) had 4.1.1 installed, 2) 
copied it using the program, 3) installed 4.2.0, and 4) created 
the ooRexx5.0.0 folder and copied the files into it.  All good 
so far!  But if you then used the program to copy 4.2.0, you 
would find yourself where you are.  In order to switch, the 
program needs to rename the folders but it can't change ooRexx 
to ooRexx4.2.0 since the copy created a folder by that name.  If 
you delete that folder and its contents, you should be able to 
use the program to either switch to 4.1.1 or to 5.0.0.


If I guessed wrong, let me know and I'll try to help you out 
with another suggestion.


The reason you can't copy 4.2.0 to get to 5.0.0 is because there 
is no 5.0.0 installer which would have uninstalled 4.2.0 before 
installing 5.0.0.  Don't feel bad about falling into this hole, 
the process is confusing which is why I wrote the program to 
start with.


On 7/15/2016 3:08 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:


Ah well, trust me to fall into a hole right at the start...

I built a shortcut for orxver.cmd, but I must have something 
wrong as double clicking  the shortcut opens orxver in 
notepad.  If I open a command window and enter orxver it bring 
up the dialog.


I successfully switched from 4.1.1 to 4.2.0.  But now... the 
orxver dialog comes up with 'No action possible', 'A copy of 
the current version (4.2.0) already exists', 'Install a version 
of ooRexx other than 4.1.1 4.2.0 5.0.0' and 'For more 
information, click Display Program Documentation'


I'd like to switch to 5.00, what do I do?


On 2016-07-15 05:40, Gil Barmwater wrote:


OK,

Re: [Oorexx-devel] to do list

2016-07-18 Thread Terry Fuller

Oh!  I did that, and it worked, sort of... the zip I downloaded 
purported to be 64-bit, but its really the 32-bit mode code.  What the 
heck??



On 2016-07-18 10:28, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

On 18.07.2016 19:22, Terry Fuller wrote:


More info...

Trying to do the deed manually.  I'm able to rename the folders after 
stopping rxapi.  When switching to 5.0.0 rxapi fails to 
start--because the path to rxapi.exe in 'services' is D:\ooRexx, 
while in the 5.0.0 unzipped, it is in D:\ooRexx\bin-small.  What is 
the reason for the additional directory level?  Can I just eliminate it?



Just try it out!
:)

Ad name "bin-small": that is just the sub directory in the zip-archive 
where the 32-bit ooRexx files are stored.


Good luck!

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Tampa, Florida, as announced by RexxLA!




On 2016-07-17 17:31, Terry Fuller wrote:


Hmm

Running with admin authority doesn't seem to help (tho' only one 
'access denied' message this time...)


C:\Windows\system32>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0  to 5.0.0
Access is denied.
A duplicate file name exists, or the file
cannot be found.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

Is there a way to distinguish between the case of duplicate v. 
missing file name?


The relevant file names:

D:\TAF>rexxtry
REXX-ooRexx_4.2.0(MT)_64-bit 6.04 22 Feb 2014
  rexxtry.rex lets you interactively try REXX statements.
Each string is executed when you hit Enter.
Enter 'call tell' for a description of the features.
  Go on - try a few...Enter 'exit' to end.

  rexxtry.rex:  Enter 'exit' to end.   Or '?' for online REXX help.
exit

D:\TAF>dir d:\oo*
 Volume in drive D is DATA
 Volume Serial Number is D0A9-18AB

 Directory of d:\

2016-07-13  15:24  ooRexx
2016-07-13  14:06  ooRexx4.1.1
2016-07-15  11:46  ooRexx5.0.0
2014-05-05  15:40 oorexxdoc-2.2.1b
   0 File(s)  0 bytes
   4 Dir(s)  103,847,501,824 bytes free


On 2016-07-15 14:08, Gil Barmwater wrote:


Progress indeed!  The key is the message "Access is denied."  This 
means the renames failed so you are still on 4.2.0.  The console 
screen should be running "elevated" with a Windows-generated prompt 
for permission before it starts.  If you don't allow the console to 
run "elevated", this is what you will see.  There is no way to 
bypass the Windows prompt for permission so you need to reply that 
you want the console to make the modifications.


Hope that helps...

On 7/15/2016 4:37 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:


OK, some progress... I deleted the ooRexx4.2.0 folder and running 
orxver now offers to let me switch to 4.1.1 or 5.0.0, but... when 
I select either, I'm left in 4.2.2 The console screen shows:


D:\>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0  to 4.1.1
Access is denied.
Access is denied.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

as if it's working, but rexxtry still shows 4.2.0


On 2016-07-15 12:45, Gil Barmwater wrote:


OK, I'm going to guess that you 1) had 4.1.1 installed, 2) copied 
it using the program, 3) installed 4.2.0, and 4) created the 
ooRexx5.0.0 folder and copied the files into it.  All good so 
far!  But if you then used the program to copy 4.2.0, you would 
find yourself where you are.  In order to switch, the program 
needs to rename the folders but it can't change ooRexx to 
ooRexx4.2.0 since the copy created a folder by that name.  If you 
delete that folder and its contents, you should be able to use 
the program to either switch to 4.1.1 or to 5.0.0.


If I guessed wrong, let me know and I'll try to help you out with 
another suggestion.


The reason you can't copy 4.2.0 to get to 5.0.0 is because there 
is no 5.0.0 installer which would have uninstalled 4.2.0 before 
installing 5.0.0.  Don't feel bad about falling into this hole, 
the process is confusing which is why I wrote the program to 
start with.


On 7/15/2016 3:08 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:


Ah well, trust me to fall into a hole right at the start...

I built a shortcut for orxver.cmd, but I must have something 
wrong as double clicking  the shortcut opens orxver in notepad.  
If I open a command window and enter orxver it bring up the dialog.


I successfully switched from 4.1.1 to 4.2.0.  But now... the 
orxver dialog comes up with 'No action possible', 'A copy of the 
current version (4.2.0) already exists', 'Install a version of 
ooRexx other than 4.1.1 4.2.0 5.0.0' and 'For more information, 
click Display Program Documentation'


I'd like to switch to 5.00, what do I do?


On 2016-07-15 05:40, Gil Barmwater wrote:


OK, I'm including a link to the file on Dropbox: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27841063/orxver.cmd


Put the file anywhere you'd put a Rexx script - don't be 
confused

Re: [Oorexx-devel] to do list

2016-07-17 Thread Terry Fuller


Hmm

Running with admin authority doesn't seem to help (tho' only one 'access 
denied' message this time...)


C:\Windows\system32>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0  to 5.0.0
Access is denied.
A duplicate file name exists, or the file
cannot be found.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

Is there a way to distinguish between the case of duplicate v. missing 
file name?


The relevant file names:

D:\TAF>rexxtry
REXX-ooRexx_4.2.0(MT)_64-bit 6.04 22 Feb 2014
  rexxtry.rex lets you interactively try REXX statements.
Each string is executed when you hit Enter.
Enter 'call tell' for a description of the features.
  Go on - try a few...Enter 'exit' to end.

  rexxtry.rex:  Enter 'exit' to end.   Or '?' for online REXX help.
exit

D:\TAF>dir d:\oo*
 Volume in drive D is DATA
 Volume Serial Number is D0A9-18AB

 Directory of d:\

2016-07-13  15:24  ooRexx
2016-07-13  14:06  ooRexx4.1.1
2016-07-15  11:46  ooRexx5.0.0
2014-05-05  15:40  oorexxdoc-2.2.1b
   0 File(s)  0 bytes
   4 Dir(s)  103,847,501,824 bytes free


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Progress indeed!  The key is the message "Access is denied." This 
means the renames failed so you are still on 4.2.0.  The console 
screen should be running "elevated" with a Windows-generated prompt 
for permission before it starts.  If you don't allow the console to 
run "elevated", this is what you will see.  There is no way to bypass 
the Windows prompt for permission so you need to reply that you want 
the console to make the modifications.


Hope that helps...

On 7/15/2016 4:37 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:


OK, some progress... I deleted the ooRexx4.2.0 folder and running 
orxver now offers to let me switch to 4.1.1 or 5.0.0, but... when I 
select either, I'm left in 4.2.2 The console screen shows:


D:\>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0  to 4.1.1
Access is denied.
Access is denied.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

as if it's working, but rexxtry still shows 4.2.0


On 2016-07-15 12:45, Gil Barmwater wrote:


OK, I'm going to guess that you 1) had 4.1.1 installed, 2) copied it 
using the program, 3) installed 4.2.0, and 4) created the 
ooRexx5.0.0 folder and copied the files into it.  All good so far!  
But if you then used the program to copy 4.2.0, you would find 
yourself where you are.  In order to switch, the program needs to 
rename the folders but it can't change ooRexx to ooRexx4.2.0 since 
the copy created a folder by that name.  If you delete that folder 
and its contents, you should be able to use the program to either 
switch to 4.1.1 or to 5.0.0.


If I guessed wrong, let me know and I'll try to help you out with 
another suggestion.


The reason you can't copy 4.2.0 to get to 5.0.0 is because there is 
no 5.0.0 installer which would have uninstalled 4.2.0 before 
installing 5.0.0.  Don't feel bad about falling into this hole, the 
process is confusing which is why I wrote the program to start with.


On 7/15/2016 3:08 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:


Ah well, trust me to fall into a hole right at the start...

I built a shortcut for orxver.cmd, but I must have something wrong 
as double clicking  the shortcut opens orxver in notepad.  If I 
open a command window and enter orxver it bring up the dialog.


I successfully switched from 4.1.1 to 4.2.0.  But now... the orxver 
dialog comes up with 'No action possible', 'A copy of the current 
version (4.2.0) already exists', 'Install a version of ooRexx other 
than 4.1.1 4.2.0 5.0.0' and 'For more information, click Display 
Program Documentation'


I'd like to switch to 5.00, what do I do?


On 2016-07-15 05:40, Gil Barmwater wrote:


OK, I'm including a link to the file on Dropbox: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27841063/orxver.cmd


Put the file anywhere you'd put a Rexx script - don't be confused 
by the .cmd extension as it is both a Windows script AND a Rexx 
script in the same file - and then create a shortcut to run it on 
your desktop.  The documentation is also contained in the same 
file and will be "extracted" to a .html file in the same directory 
the first time it is requested.


Jon and Les have helped me test and improve it but this is the 
first "public" unveiling so any and all comments will be appreciated.


Re. my earlier post: I see that the 5.0.0 Beta folder currently 
only contains Ubuntu builds so the Alpha folder looks like the 
most current Windows version.  I downloaded  the 
oorexx5_win32_r11047_av.zip file, unzipped it and copied the files 
to %rexx_home%5.0.0 since it does not contain an installer.


Please post any questions on this forum and, if anyone has another 
source for newer Windows builds, let us know.  Thanks!



On 7/14/2016 3:30 PM

Re: [Oorexx-devel] to do list

2016-07-15 Thread Terry Fuller

OK, some progress... I deleted the ooRexx4.2.0 folder and running orxver
now offers to let me switch to 4.1.1 or 5.0.0, but... when I select
either, I'm left in 4.2.2 The console screen shows:

D:\>ooRexx Version Management
Proceeding with switch from 4.2.0 to 4.1.1
Access is denied.
Access is denied.
Press Enter to restart RXAPI; press Ctrl-C to quit
Press any key to continue . . .

as if it's working, but rexxtry still shows 4.2.0

On 2016-07-15 12:45, Gil Barmwater wrote:

OK, I'm going to guess that you 1) had 4.1.1 installed, 2) copied it
using the program, 3) installed 4.2.0, and 4) created the ooRexx5.0.0
folder and copied the files into it. All good so far! But if you
then used the program to copy 4.2.0, you would find yourself where you
are. In order to switch, the program needs to rename the folders but
it can't change ooRexx to ooRexx4.2.0 since the copy created a folder
by that name. If you delete that folder and its contents, you should
be able to use the program to either switch to 4.1.1 or to 5.0.0.

If I guessed wrong, let me know and I'll try to help you out with
another suggestion.

The reason you can't copy 4.2.0 to get to 5.0.0 is because there is no
5.0.0 installer which would have uninstalled 4.2.0 before installing
5.0.0. Don't feel bad about falling into this hole, the process is
confusing which is why I wrote the program to start with.

On 7/15/2016 3:08 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:

Ah well, trust me to fall into a hole right at the start...

I built a shortcut for orxver.cmd, but I must have something wrong as
double clicking the shortcut opens orxver in notepad. If I open a
command window and enter orxver it bring up the dialog.

I successfully switched from 4.1.1 to 4.2.0. But now... the orxver
dialog comes up with 'No action possible', 'A copy of the current
version (4.2.0) already exists', 'Install a version of ooRexx other
than 4.1.1 4.2.0 5.0.0' and 'For more information, click Display
Program Documentation'

I'd like to switch to 5.00, what do I do?

On 2016-07-15 05:40, Gil Barmwater wrote:

OK, I'm including a link to the file on Dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27841063/orxver.cmd

Put the file anywhere you'd put a Rexx script - don't be confused by
the .cmd extension as it is both a Windows script AND a Rexx script
in the same file - and then create a shortcut to run it on your
desktop. The documentation is also contained in the same file and
will be "extracted" to a .html file in the same directory the first
time it is requested.

Jon and Les have helped me test and improve it but this is the first
"public" unveiling so any and all comments will be appreciated.

Re. my earlier post: I see that the 5.0.0 Beta folder currently only
contains Ubuntu builds so the Alpha folder looks like the most
current Windows version. I downloaded the
oorexx5_win32_r11047_av.zip file, unzipped it and copied the files
to %rexx_home%5.0.0 since it does not contain an installer.

Please post any questions on this forum and, if anyone has another
source for newer Windows builds, let us know. Thanks!

On 7/14/2016 3:30 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:

Gil, none of the references I can find to ORXVER indicate where it
is available. One post indicates that it was only made available
to a few users. Can you send me a copy, or point me to where it
can be found?

On 2016-07-14 00:46, Erich Steinböck wrote:

how to manage multiple concurrent versions of ooRexx on a
single machine

I'm running various versions of ooRexx in parallel, by simply
calling the appropriate rexx.exe with full path (I've set up
doskey macros "rexx4", "rexx5", "rexx5d" etc. for each). Works for
rexx installs and simple unzipped rexx directories.

There's generally no need to switch rxapi, as it's sufficiently
compatible between 4.2 and the various 5.0 versions. I'm always
installing rxapi from the newest version. Above said is true as
long you're using only 32-bit or only 64-bit Rexx. Switching
between 32- and 64- will involve stopping/uninstalling rxapi and
installing the other rxapi, which isn't that convenient.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Gil Barmwater
<gbarmwa...@alum.rpi.edu <mailto:gbarmwa...@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:

Hi Terry,

See my post earlier on the list about using ORXVER to switch
between versions on Windows. 5.0.0 Alpha does not yet have a
windows installer AFAIK. I downloaded the zip file -

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0alpha/oorexx5_win32_r11047_av.zip
- and manually unzipped it and copied all the files into a
...\ooRexx5.0.0 folder. But I see that there is a 5.0.0 Beta
version dated 7/10 in the folder now so that would be a better
target. Once that is done, ORXVER can switch between whatever
your current ooRexx version is and 5.0.0. Let me know if you
want the tool!

Re: [Oorexx-devel] to do list

2016-07-14 Thread Terry Fuller

Gil, none of the references I can find to ORXVER indicate where it is
available. One post indicates that it was only made available to a few
users. Can you send me a copy, or point me to where it can be found?

On 2016-07-14 00:46, Erich Steinböck wrote:

how to manage multiple concurrent versions of ooRexx on a single
machine

I'm running various versions of ooRexx in parallel, by simply calling
the appropriate rexx.exe with full path (I've set up doskey macros
"rexx4", "rexx5", "rexx5d" etc. for each). Works for rexx installs and
simple unzipped rexx directories.

There's generally no need to switch rxapi, as it's sufficiently
compatible between 4.2 and the various 5.0 versions. I'm always
installing rxapi from the newest version. Above said is true as long
you're using only 32-bit or only 64-bit Rexx. Switching between 32-
and 64- will involve stopping/uninstalling rxapi and installing the
other rxapi, which isn't that convenient.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Gil Barmwater
<gbarmwa...@alum.rpi.edu <mailto:gbarmwa...@alum.rpi.edu>> wrote:

Hi Terry,

See my post earlier on the list about using ORXVER to switch
between versions on Windows. 5.0.0 Alpha does not yet have a
windows installer AFAIK. I downloaded the zip file -

Gil B.

On 7/13/2016 6:06 PM, Terry Fuller wrote:

Hello,

I've finally got some breathing space to do some testing.
Thought I'd use VBox, but apparently I can't use my

laptop-preload as both host & guest :-( Don't really want to
spend $200-400 for a full retail copy of windows...

So now I've found anemail exchange

<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/comp.lang.rexx/E7rKgcMEdpE>between
LesK and Mark Miesfeld on how to manage multiple concurrent
versions of ooRexx on a single machine. However, the method
relies on a windows installer. Looking at the download page, I
see 5.0.0 beta, but only for ubuntu; 5.0.0 alpha directory does
have windows zip. I've downloaded the zip, but don't see any
internal subdirectories, nor installation hints.

Should I install the alpha zip to test existing ooDialog releases
against the new ooRexx? If so, how do I do this in such a way
that I can make use of the multiple concurrent technique. Even
if the alpha build is stale, I'd like to install it even if just
to work out the testing procedures.

On 2016-07-05 14:29, Terry Fuller wrote:

I'm willing to test the current ooDialog against the 5.0
release. I'm not sure what René's timescale is, but I'll try to
meet it.

Maybe the testing will get me far enough to to start to do some
actual maintnance :-P

On 2016-07-04 08:47, René Jansen wrote:

Hi Jon,

that is most considerate of you. Yes, I think I have the
necessary authorizations, and otherwise I will ask for them. It
would be good if Terry would adopt the package - officially -
and we could all support him. For me, there no necessity to
release the packages together, but I understand it would be
reassuring for some users to release something that is tested
against 5.00. In the long run, something needs to happen to
ooDialog so it does not make ooRexx look like something from
the eighties/nineties. I hope that the work that Mark Miesfeld
and Oliver Sims did does not go to waste; so we need to focus a
bit here to do the right thing. In my opinion, that would be:

- release separate, but tested and as far as possible, at the
same time
- work on something new ( that at least introduces a newer look
and feel, and adds modern widgets)
- try to merge into something cross-plaform like the linux
distributions pulled off (X windows/GTK stuff)

do we know any numbers on usage of ooRexx, ooRexx+GUI,
ooRexx+Java? Or would that be too depressing?

best regards,

René.

On 4 jul. 2016, at 17:31, Jon Wolfers <sahana...@gmail.com
<mailto:sahana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Rene, Terry

Terry was interested in looking after ooDialog, though at that
time he did not know what was involved.

Terry, are you willing to test the decoupled ooDialog against
5.0? If so, is Rene's timescale realistic?
It is quite possible that it will not work in which case I
think we just need to mark it as suitable for 4.x releases
only (Rick has told me that he does not know what Mark did to

Re: [Oorexx-devel] to do list

2016-07-13 Thread Terry Fuller

Hello,

I've finally got some breathing space to do some testing. Thought I'd 
use VBox, but apparently I can't use my laptop-preload as both host & 
guest :-( Don't really want to spend $200-400 for a full retail copy of 
windows...

So now I've found anemail exchange 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/comp.lang.rexx/E7rKgcMEdpE>between 
LesK and Mark Miesfeld on how to manage multiple concurrent versions of 
ooRexx on a single machine.  However, the method relies on a windows 
installer.  Looking at the download page, I see 5.0.0 beta, but only for 
ubuntu; 5.0.0 alpha directory does have windows zip.  I've downloaded 
the zip, but don't see any internal subdirectories, nor installation hints.

Should I install the alpha zip to test existing ooDialog releases 
against the new ooRexx?  If so, how do I do this in such a way that I 
can make use of the multiple concurrent technique.  Even if the alpha 
build is stale, I'd like to install it even if just to work out the 
testing procedures.

On 2016-07-05 14:29, Terry Fuller wrote:
I'm willing to test the current ooDialog against the 5.0 release. I'm 
not sure what René's timescale is, but I'll try to meet it.

Maybe the testing will get me far enough to to start to do some actual 
maintnance :-P

On 2016-07-04 08:47, René Jansen wrote:

Hi Jon,

that is most considerate of you. Yes, I think I have the necessary 
authorizations, and otherwise I will ask for them. It would be good 
if Terry would adopt the package - officially - and we could all 
support him. For me, there no necessity to release the packages 
together, but I understand it would be reassuring for some users to 
release something that is tested against 5.00. In the long run, 
something needs to happen to ooDialog so it does not make ooRexx look 
like something from the eighties/nineties. I hope that the work that 
Mark Miesfeld and Oliver Sims did does not go to waste; so we need to 
focus a bit here to do the right thing. In my opinion, that would be:

- release separate, but tested and as far as possible, at the same time
- work on something new ( that at least introduces a newer look and 
feel, and adds modern widgets)
- try to merge into something cross-plaform like the linux 
distributions pulled off (X windows/GTK stuff)

do we know any numbers on usage of ooRexx, ooRexx+GUI, ooRexx+Java? 
Or would that be too depressing?

best regards,

René.

On 4 jul. 2016, at 17:31, Jon Wolfers <sahana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rene, Terry

Terry was interested in looking after ooDialog, though at that time 
he did not know what was involved.

Terry, are you willing to test the decoupled ooDialog against 5.0?  
If so, is Rene's timescale realistic?
It is quite possible that it will not work in which case I think we 
just need to mark it as suitable for 4.x releases only (Rick has 
told me that he does not know what Mark did to uncouple it).

Rene,  I think you have the permissions you need, can you let me know.

I am sending this off the list as it is not my intention to shame 
Terry into doing something that he rather tentatively offered and 
may have thought better of when he saw what was needed.

thanks both,

Jon

On 4 July 2016 at 15:41, René Jansen <rvjan...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

Hi Jon,

I can branch for release and do the necessary things on
SourceForge, and I am sure most of the other active programmers
can do that also. I think the ooDialog package, which was
separated from the main ooRexx package, could be released
independently, but at the same time. As it is for one platform
only, someone familiar with it needs to adopt it - you? I cannot
judge if it works or not, or know how to run test cases. I am
working on getting a windows machine (in fact, I have one VM
image running since yesterday that I need to hook up to Jenkins)
to do builds and tests of it.

Do we have an official adoptor?

best regards,

René.

On 4 jul. 2016, at 15:55, Jon Wolfers <sahana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi René,

I'm not sure who amongst the committees has the experience with
svn to 'do' a release.  Mark did the last ones and David before
that i think.  Also i don't think anyone knows what (if
anything) needs to happen with the independent ooDialog package.

Jon

On Jul 4, 2016 12:09 AM, "Michael Lueck"
<mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com> wrote:

René Jansen wrote:
> 1) document which platforms are going to be in the core
list of supported platforms (of which we have binary
installer packages):
>
> this is a matrix of:
>
> ISA  - OS name - Distribution - version

I would still like to assist with the following builds:

ISA - Linux - Ubuntu - 16.04 AMD64
ISA - Linux - Ubuntu - 16.04 I386
ISA - Linux - Ubuntu - 14.04 AMD64
ISA - Linux - Ubu

Re: [Oorexx-devel] [OT] MYSQL

2015-06-04 Thread Terry Fuller

Rony,

I agree that it's interesting;-) , but at the moment it's just 
discussion on install/use of MySQL server and client.  If it turns onto 
ooRexx and RexxSQL I'll move it to the general rexx discussion list.

On 2015-06-04 11:06, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 Terry,

 it would be nice to have that in public, e.g. on the RexxLA list or the 
 ooRexx user list.

 This way search engines can turn up this conversation at later times.

 Personally, in additon to NetRexx, I would also add/hint at Mark Hessling's 
 RexxSQL and BSF4ooRexx.

 The problem solution space has become rather large and the pro and cons and 
 the context are probably
 interesting for anyone.

 ---rony




 On 04.06.2015 20:02, Terry Fuller wrote:
 I'll take this off list.  Dan and Michael, if you'd like to be copied on
 the traffic, let me know.

 On 2015-06-04 07:21, René Jansen wrote:
 Dan,

 In know this is nearly sacrilegious on this list, and let’s move it off to 
 somewhere else, but I need to tell you that NetRexx offers quite some 
 advantages in the JVM/J2EE world, by being Java. If you want to get to know 
 web containers, jdbc, messaging and jsp/javascript interaction, I can help 
 you get started.

 best regards,

 René.

 On 4 jun. 2015, at 15:30, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote:

 I second that.  I, too, need to implement an Enterprise Java development
 environment.  Tutoring by a master would be invaluable.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Lueck [mailto:mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 03:16
 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] MYSQL

 Greetings Walter,

 Walter Pachl wrote:
 and come back off list if necessary
 Why to take this valuable KT off-list after sharing what technology stack
 you are working on with the list?

 If anything, perhaps shift to the RexxLA list since it is not specific to
 ooRexx development, rather utilizing ooRexx within a technology stack.

 I am thankful,

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] [OT] MYSQL

2015-06-04 Thread Terry Fuller

I'll take this off list.  Dan and Michael, if you'd like to be copied on 
the traffic, let me know.

On 2015-06-04 07:21, René Jansen wrote:
 Dan,

 In know this is nearly sacrilegious on this list, and let’s move it off to 
 somewhere else, but I need to tell you that NetRexx offers quite some 
 advantages in the JVM/J2EE world, by being Java. If you want to get to know 
 web containers, jdbc, messaging and jsp/javascript interaction, I can help 
 you get started.

 best regards,

 René.

 On 4 jun. 2015, at 15:30, Dan Carter gwcar...@ezlink.com wrote:

 I second that.  I, too, need to implement an Enterprise Java development
 environment.  Tutoring by a master would be invaluable.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Lueck [mailto:mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 03:16
 To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] MYSQL

 Greetings Walter,

 Walter Pachl wrote:
 and come back off list if necessary

 Why to take this valuable KT off-list after sharing what technology stack
 you are working on with the list?

 If anything, perhaps shift to the RexxLA list since it is not specific to
 ooRexx development, rather utilizing ooRexx within a technology stack.

 I am thankful,

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] [Ibm-netrexx] ASCII or EBCDIC?

2012-08-08 Thread Terry Fuller

** Reply to message from Earl Hodil eho...@mail.open-softech.com on Wed, 8
Aug 2012 09:03:48 -0400

I'm still working on porting ooRexx to zOS (evenutally both to USS and TSO). 
(took off the last week, but back in town now and picking up the threads...)

taf


 would be happy to see ooRexx on MVS, I'm just not the person to do it. Yes, I
 have access to a z/os system, but NO, I do not have the expertise to do it.
 Surely someone else has access to a z/os system. What about Mr. REXX himself,
 Mike Cowlishaw? He's an IBM fellow. I'm sure he could persuade IBM to give him
 his own zPDT system, if he asked (not that it would be required. A TSO ID on a
 time-sharing system would suffice).
 
 Earl
 
 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] bootstrap question

2012-07-17 Thread Terry Fuller

** Reply to message from Earl Hodil eho...@mail.open-softech.com on Tue, 17
Jul 2012 06:27:41 -0400

Hi Earl, 

Did you have any trouble unpacking the tarball?  

Both pax and tar tell me that my uploaded copy are not compressed files...

taf


 Hi to all,
 
 I finally got my USS environment in order and downloaded the 4.1.1 tar ball. 
 When I ran bootstrap I got a big mess:
 
 EDH:/Z113/usr/trunk: ./bootstrap 
   
 libtoolize --copy --force --automake  
   
 libtoolize was invoked from directory /Z113/usr/trunk 
   
 grep: configure.in: EDC5129I No such file or directory.   
   
 aclocal: couldn't open directory `/usr/local/share/aclocal': EDC5129I No such 
 fi
 le or directory.  
   
 m4: autoheader.m4: EDC5129I No such file or directory.
   
 m4: configure.in: EDC5129I No such file or directory. 
   
 Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/os3
 90 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/os390 
 /usr/lo
 cal/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at 
 /usr/bin/auto
 make line 3285.   
   
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/automake line 3285. 
   
 autoconf: configure.in: No such file or directory 
   
 EDH:/Z113/usr/trunk: 
   
 
 Are there some variables I need to export before I run bootstrap?
 
 BTW, I had to move perl around to get it to run this much.
 
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