Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Terry Fuller]

Thank you René

On 2022-06-22 03:55, René Jansen wrote:
I think so too. This is why I built the following pipeline to make 
sure this page is updated daily:


➜  test git:(master) cat oorexx_downloads.nrx
out =''
address pipe with output stem out

'pipe (pipnm) literal curl 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0beta/ '-

'| command '-
'| split '-
'| locate +href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files+ '-
'| nlocate /readme.md/  specs 7-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 2-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| o: fanout '-
'| specs 77-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 10-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| b: juxtapose '-
'| sort desc '-
'| specs /[/ 1 1-5 nw 7-11 nw 13-* nw /)/ nw '-
'| change /href/ /] (href/ '-
'| cons ? o: '-
'| insert / / '-
'| b:'

do i=1 to out[0]
  say out[i]
end

As you can see, it takes the RSS feed from SF and turns it into a 
Markdown page. I will have something by the end of this week.


Best regards,

René.


On 21 Jun 2022, at 22:07, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:

I think the documentation pointers should point to Sourceforge

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx-docs/

with the appropriate subfolder renamed (currently 5.0.0beta)

The documentation can be built automatically (some work needed still 
to rebuild only the changed docs + upload)


Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




Am 21.06.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Terry Fuller :

On the topic of documentation...

I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 
GA release, but...


All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc 
 result in 404 errors.  If memory serves (and 
sometimes it doesn't, corrections gratefully received) we now have 
Jenkins producing both PDF and html documentation... can that be set 
up to push the build results to the website? alternatively, change 
the links to point to the built files?


Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out 
of date (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 
is GA the brochure really should be updated... also might be better 
implemented in something more open source than ms.ppt.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:
Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done 
by Gil (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).





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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Gilbert Barmwater]

I agree it should work. RC(30) means the command environment is 
unknown.  I see that you have "address pipe ..." so that may be the 
problem.  You might try "address path pipe..." or "address '' pipe..." 
and see if that works any better.


Gil

On 6/22/2022 10:19 AM, René Jansen wrote:
I think it *should* work on ooRexx, but after changing ‘out' to ‘out.' 
and changing the line continuations from ‘-‘ to ‘,’ (and commenting 
out the output loop) I only get an RC(30). ‘Pipe’ is just an 
executable known to PATH (actually a zsh alias, but I also tried with 
Marc’s ‘pipe’ shell script). So I leave that to the ooRexx specialists.


René.


On 22 Jun 2022, at 16:00, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:

Ok, did not realize when asking that you were running this on NetRexx

The pipe seems neat as well, never used it though.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
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Am 22.06.2022 um 15:58 schrieb René Jansen :

Hi P.O.,

It is embedded in a NetRexx program. As it does not have stems (but 
indexed strings with [ ] I cannot specify a dot (but need not 
specify it either). I am tempted to try if Gil’s example works!


René.


On 22 Jun 2022, at 14:24, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:

Off Topic:  You have the stem name without the dot (.) whereas I 
have always used it dotted. This is what I did in a recent script 
(to find back my other server when it failed to register DDNS 
correctly)




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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

I think it *should* work on ooRexx, but after changing ‘out' to ‘out.' and 
changing the line continuations from ‘-‘ to ‘,’ (and commenting out the output 
loop) I only get an RC(30). ‘Pipe’ is just an executable known to PATH 
(actually a zsh alias, but I also tried with Marc’s ‘pipe’ shell script). So I 
leave that to the ooRexx specialists.

René.

> On 22 Jun 2022, at 16:00, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:
> 
> Ok, did not realize when asking that you were running this on NetRexx 
> 
> The pipe seems neat as well, never used it though.
> 
> Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
> P.O. Jonsson
> oor...@jonases.se 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 22.06.2022 um 15:58 schrieb René Jansen > >:
>> 
>> Hi P.O.,
>> 
>> It is embedded in a NetRexx program. As it does not have stems (but indexed 
>> strings with [ ] I cannot specify a dot (but need not specify it either). I 
>> am tempted to try if Gil’s example works!
>> 
>> René.
>> 
>>> On 22 Jun 2022, at 14:24, P.O. Jonsson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Off Topic:  You have the stem name without the dot (.) whereas I have 
>>> always used it dotted. This is what I did in a recent script (to find back 
>>> my other server when it failed to register DDNS correctly)
>>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[P.O. Jonsson]

Ok, did not realize when asking that you were running this on NetRexx 

The pipe seems neat as well, never used it though.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




> Am 22.06.2022 um 15:58 schrieb René Jansen :
> 
> Hi P.O.,
> 
> It is embedded in a NetRexx program. As it does not have stems (but indexed 
> strings with [ ] I cannot specify a dot (but need not specify it either). I 
> am tempted to try if Gil’s example works!
> 
> René.
> 
>> On 22 Jun 2022, at 14:24, P.O. Jonsson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Off Topic:  You have the stem name without the dot (.) whereas I have always 
>> used it dotted. This is what I did in a recent script (to find back my other 
>> server when it failed to register DDNS correctly)
>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

Hi P.O.,

It is embedded in a NetRexx program. As it does not have stems (but indexed 
strings with [ ] I cannot specify a dot (but need not specify it either). I am 
tempted to try if Gil’s example works!

René.

> On 22 Jun 2022, at 14:24, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:
> 
> Off Topic:  You have the stem name without the dot (.) whereas I have always 
> used it dotted. This is what I did in a recent script (to find back my other 
> server when it failed to register DDNS correctly)
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Gilbert Barmwater]

I checked the documentation and it isn't really clear (to me). So I ran 
rexxtry and got:


address cmd with output stem d
  Oooops ! ... try again. Symbol expected.
  Stem symbol expected after STEM keyword.
  rc = 20.932 ... rexxtry.rex on WindowsNT

Changing "d" to "d." worked.  So the answer (for ooRexx) is you need the 
dot.


Gil

On 6/22/2022 8:24 AM, P.O. Jonsson wrote:
Wow! Shows the versatility of address … with and incredible 
improvement that on its own motivate making ooRexx 5 available to a 
larger audience, I.e. an official release or GA.


Off Topic:  You have the stem name without the dot (.) whereas I have 
always used it dotted. This is what I did in a recent script (to find 
back my other server when it failed to register DDNS correctly)


      ADDRESS '' '/usr/bin/nc -z -n -G 1 -w 1' IP IPport WITH OUTPUT 
STEM outstem. ERROR STEM errstem.


Is it possible to use both stem or stem.?

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
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Am 22.06.2022 um 12:55 schrieb René Jansen :

I think so too. This is why I built the following pipeline to make 
sure this page is updated daily:


➜  test git:(master) cat oorexx_downloads.nrx
out =''
address pipe with output stem out

'pipe (pipnm) literal curl 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0beta/ '-

'| command '-
'| split '-
'| locate +href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files+ '-
'| nlocate /readme.md/  specs 7-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 2-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| o: fanout '-
'| specs 77-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 10-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| b: juxtapose '-
'| sort desc '-
'| specs /[/ 1 1-5 nw 7-11 nw 13-* nw /)/ nw '-
'| change /href/ /] (href/ '-
'| cons ? o: '-
'| insert / / '-
'| b:'

do i=1 to out[0]
  say out[i]
end

As you can see, it takes the RSS feed from SF and turns it into a 
Markdown page. I will have something by the end of this week.


Best regards,

René.


On 21 Jun 2022, at 22:07, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:

I think the documentation pointers should point to Sourceforge

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx-docs/

with the appropriate subfolder renamed (currently 5.0.0beta)

The documentation can be built automatically (some work needed still 
to rebuild only the changed docs + upload)


Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




Am 21.06.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Terry Fuller :

On the topic of documentation...

I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 
5.0 GA release, but...


All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc 
 result in 404 errors.  If memory serves 
(and sometimes it doesn't, corrections gratefully received) we now 
have Jenkins producing both PDF and html documentation... can that 
be set up to push the build results to the website? alternatively, 
change the links to point to the built files?


Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly 
out of date (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 
5.0 is GA the brochure really should be updated... also might be 
better implemented in something more open source than ms.ppt.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:
Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done 
by Gil (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).





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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[P.O. Jonsson]

Wow! Shows the versatility of address … with and incredible improvement that on 
its own motivate making ooRexx 5 available to a larger audience, I.e. an 
official release or GA.

Off Topic:  You have the stem name without the dot (.) whereas I have always 
used it dotted. This is what I did in a recent script (to find back my other 
server when it failed to register DDNS correctly)

  ADDRESS '' '/usr/bin/nc -z -n -G 1 -w 1' IP IPport WITH OUTPUT STEM 
outstem. ERROR STEM errstem.

Is it possible to use both stem or stem.?

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




> Am 22.06.2022 um 12:55 schrieb René Jansen :
> 
> I think so too. This is why I built the following pipeline to make sure this 
> page is updated daily:
> 
> ➜  test git:(master) cat oorexx_downloads.nrx
> out =''
> address pipe with output stem out
> 
> 'pipe (pipnm) literal curl 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0beta/ 
>  '-
> '| command '-
> '| split '-
> '| locate +href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files+ 
>  '-
> '| nlocate /readme.md/  specs 7-* 1 '-
> '| reverse '-
> '| specs 2-* 1 '-
> '| reverse '-
> '| o: fanout '-
> '| specs 77-* 1 '-
> '| reverse '-
> '| specs 10-* 1 '-
> '| reverse '-
> '| b: juxtapose '-
> '| sort desc '-
> '| specs /[/ 1 1-5 nw 7-11 nw 13-* nw /)/ nw '-
> '| change /href/ /] (href/ '-
> '| cons ? o: '-
> '| insert / / '-
> '| b:'
> 
> do i=1 to out[0]
>   say out[i]
> end
> 
> As you can see, it takes the RSS feed from SF and turns it into a Markdown 
> page. I will have something by the end of this week.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> René.
> 
>> On 21 Jun 2022, at 22:07, P.O. Jonsson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think the documentation pointers should point to Sourceforge
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx-docs/ 
>> 
>> 
>> with the appropriate subfolder renamed (currently 5.0.0beta) 
>> 
>> The documentation can be built automatically (some work needed still to 
>> rebuild only the changed docs + upload)
>> 
>> Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
>> P.O. Jonsson
>> oor...@jonases.se 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 21.06.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Terry Fuller >> >:
>>> 
>>> On the topic of documentation...
>>> 
>>> I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 GA 
>>> release, but...
>>> 
>>> All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc  
>>> result in 404 errors.  If memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't, 
>>> corrections gratefully received) we now have Jenkins producing both PDF and 
>>> html documentation... can that be set up to push the build results to the 
>>> website? alternatively, change the links to point to the built files?
>>> 
>>> Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out of 
>>> date (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 is GA the 
>>> brochure really should be updated... also might be better implemented in 
>>> something more open source than ms.ppt.
>>> 
>>> On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:
 Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil 
 (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

I think so too. This is why I built the following pipeline to make sure this 
page is updated daily:

➜  test git:(master) cat oorexx_downloads.nrx
out =''
address pipe with output stem out

'pipe (pipnm) literal curl 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0beta/ '-
'| command '-
'| split '-
'| locate +href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files+ '-
'| nlocate /readme.md/  specs 7-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 2-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| o: fanout '-
'| specs 77-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| specs 10-* 1 '-
'| reverse '-
'| b: juxtapose '-
'| sort desc '-
'| specs /[/ 1 1-5 nw 7-11 nw 13-* nw /)/ nw '-
'| change /href/ /] (href/ '-
'| cons ? o: '-
'| insert / / '-
'| b:'

do i=1 to out[0]
  say out[i]
end

As you can see, it takes the RSS feed from SF and turns it into a Markdown 
page. I will have something by the end of this week.

Best regards,

René.

> On 21 Jun 2022, at 22:07, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:
> 
> I think the documentation pointers should point to Sourceforge
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx-docs/ 
> 
> 
> with the appropriate subfolder renamed (currently 5.0.0beta) 
> 
> The documentation can be built automatically (some work needed still to 
> rebuild only the changed docs + upload)
> 
> Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
> P.O. Jonsson
> oor...@jonases.se 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 21.06.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Terry Fuller > >:
>> 
>> On the topic of documentation...
>> 
>> I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 GA 
>> release, but...
>> 
>> All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc  
>> result in 404 errors.  If memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't, 
>> corrections gratefully received) we now have Jenkins producing both PDF and 
>> html documentation... can that be set up to push the build results to the 
>> website? alternatively, change the links to point to the built files?
>> 
>> Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out of date 
>> (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 is GA the brochure 
>> really should be updated... also might be better implemented in something 
>> more open source than ms.ppt.
>> 
>> On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:
>>> Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil 
>>> (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[P.O. Jonsson]

I think the documentation pointers should point to Sourceforge

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx-docs/ 


with the appropriate subfolder renamed (currently 5.0.0beta) 

The documentation can be built automatically (some work needed still to rebuild 
only the changed docs + upload)

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
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> Am 21.06.2022 um 21:34 schrieb Terry Fuller :
> 
> On the topic of documentation...
> 
> I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 GA 
> release, but...
> 
> All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc result in 404 errors.  If 
> memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't, corrections gratefully received) we 
> now have Jenkins producing both PDF and html documentation... can that be set 
> up to push the build results to the website? alternatively, change the links 
> to point to the built files?
> 
> Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out of date 
> (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 is GA the brochure 
> really should be updated... also might be better implemented in something 
> more open source than ms.ppt.
> 
> On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:
>> Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil 
>> (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Terry Fuller]

Ok all,

I'm going to start triage on the bugs, documentation and task tickets on 
SourceForge, I'm going to ask for a freeze sometime in the near future.  
I'd like to ask all creators of tickets to examine them and mark any in 
milestone 5.0.0 that are not showstoppers to change the milestone to 
'next release'.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:

Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil (and 
Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).


On 21 Jun 2022, at 13:57, René Jansen  wrote:

Hi Terry,

I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; 
Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From 
memory:

1) Website very outdated
2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)
3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot remember, but speed decrease flagged by Walter 
and others)

Maybe it is best to use the SourceForge issue tracking for this purpose; sort 
the issues into version 5.0.0 and beyond, solve the 5.0.0 issues - then release.

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Terry Fuller]

On the topic of documentation...

I don't want to connect the website issues as showstoppers for a 5.0 GA 
release, but...


All of the documentation pointers in oorexx.org/doc result in 404 
errors.  If memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't, corrections 
gratefully received) we now have Jenkins producing both PDF and html 
documentation... can that be set up to push the build results to the 
website? alternatively, change the links to point to the built files?


Along those lines... the oorexx product brochure is pretty badly out of 
date (touts the wonderful 32-bit implementations  ). Once 5.0 is GA 
the brochure really should be updated... also might be better 
implemented in something more open source than ms.ppt.


On 2022-06-21 05:06, René Jansen wrote:

Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil (and 
Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).




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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[P.O. Jonsson]

Dear René

> Am 21.06.2022 um 13:57 schrieb René Jansen :
> 
> 2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)

The reason we cannot build a pkg installer is because Apple decided to remove 
the command-line support for it. In my eyes the .dmg installer is NOT a 
showstopper. What would be desirable however is:
- The possibility to sign the installer automatically so that it could be 
installed without too much command-line intervention. (This is true for the 
Windows installer as well)
- The possibility to distribute ooRexx over Ports and Homebrew.
But neither of those points are showstoppers IMO.

Once there is a freeze it might be possible to create a .pkg installer using 
non-Apple tools, BSF4ooRex is creating an installer using such tools. But it is 
a painful and manual process to use.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

This from 2019. I will finish the website shortly. (This week).

I am against a freeze, as I've got some changes in the works that I'd
really like to get into the 5.0 release.

Rick

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:46 AM René Jansen  wrote:

> I am for it, but I think it is up to Erich and Rick.
>
> To be precise, I am for freezing, setting a date and prepare. I would like
> to have the oorexx.org  website up to date before we 
> announce. I did some
> work last year, which is accessible through oorexx.org/index2.html 
>  , but
> I need to finish that. Also - documentation. We must be able to build it in
> a repeatable fashion and not when someone’s pc has the right configuration.
> We are working towards that, albeit slowly.
>
> I was planning for the symposium, but I can imagine it would be better if
> we did it earlier.
>
> My proposal: freeze now and release March 1st.
>
> best regards,
>
> René.
>
> On 15 Jan 2019, at 10:15, Rony G. Flatscher 
> wrote:
>
> What would be the thoughts about releasing the current trunk version of
> ooRexx 5.0 as "general
> available"?
> (In order for organisations/companies to adopt 5.0 or to replace older
> versions of Rexx/ooRexx with
> 5.0 it would be necessary that it becomes officially GA.)
>
> It would be still possible to create some ooRexx 5.1, 5.2 and the like
> shortly after a GA release,
> if new functionality would be added to it (e.g. applying sandbox
> development results or implementing
> RFEs).
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> On 21 Jun 2022, at 13:57, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
> I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; 
> Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From 
> memory:
> 
> 1) Website very outdated
> 2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)
> 3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot remember, but speed decrease flagged by 
> Walter and others)
> 
> Maybe it is best to use the SourceForge issue tracking for this purpose; sort 
> the issues into version 5.0.0 and beyond, solve the 5.0.0 issues - then 
> release.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> René.
> 
>> On 17 Jun 2022, at 21:10, Terry Fuller  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from 
>> going GA?
>> 
>> If so, can someone point me to it?
>> 
>> If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?
>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

This from 2018:

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 8:21 AM Rony G. Flatscher 
wrote:

> Almost a month has passed since my last posting, so assuming that everyone
> is just in "wait and see"
> mode. Therefore throwing another stone into the water: how about releasing
> the current 5.0 Beta this
> coming week?
> :)
>
> Or are there any showstoppers anyone sees? Is there anything that is
> currently missing and needs to
> be done?
>

There are still a number of bugs and features that still need doc or test
work before they can be placed in a pending state. There's also not been
any work on a Mac installer created.


>
> When suggesting the current beta, mentally I included the great new
> features "address with" and
> variable references from Rick's sandbox (for each there is a 64-bit
> Windows ooRexx installation
> package at: <
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/olh1mqfwb4brp7r/AABI1X-Le9zDCJ0gyfvMdKB8a?dl=0>). 
> 
> AFAIK they
> are not in trunk and hence may need to be added to trunk and maybe it may
> make sense to create one
> more ooRexx 5.0 beta to get it tested on a wider scale for a few weeks.
> Alternatively, after
> releasing the current 5.0 beta as GA, these new features may get added to
> trunk and cause a new 5.1
> beta version to be created which may be released sometimes in the fall.
>

There's still a bit a doc and possibly some more testing work needed with
the address with and variable reference features.



>
> Ad rsock6: not seeing any commits in the repository not sure about its
> state. However, like with
> Unicode, in the case that IPv6 is really needed for the time being one can
> use the ooRexx external
> function package BSF4ooRexx to get access to it from ooRexx (in this case
> even SSL etc. becomes
> available to ooRexx programmers).
>
> At this point, I'd say that rxsock6 should not be included. Work sort of
stalled when I had to go without internet service for over 3 weeks. David's
code had a lot of issues and needed a complete redo. There are no tests
written for this and it will also need new documentation written. This will
need to be snipped out of the trunk build and moved to a sandbox before a
release candidate can be created.

Rick


> On 21 Jun 2022, at 14:06, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil 
> (and Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).
> 
>> On 21 Jun 2022, at 13:57, René Jansen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Terry,
>> 
>> I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; 
>> Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From 
>> memory:
>> 
>> 1) Website very outdated
>> 2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)
>> 3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot remember, but speed decrease flagged by 
>> Walter and others)
>> 
>> Maybe it is best to use the SourceForge issue tracking for this purpose; 
>> sort the issues into version 5.0.0 and beyond, solve the 5.0.0 issues - then 
>> release.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

Another thing was documentation. There has been a lot of work done by Gil (and 
Jon and P.O. - afraid I am forgetting someone).

> On 21 Jun 2022, at 13:57, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terry,
> 
> I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; 
> Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From 
> memory:
> 
> 1) Website very outdated
> 2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)
> 3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot remember, but speed decrease flagged by 
> Walter and others)
> 
> Maybe it is best to use the SourceForge issue tracking for this purpose; sort 
> the issues into version 5.0.0 and beyond, solve the 5.0.0 issues - then 
> release.
> 
> Best regards,
> 



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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[René Jansen]

Hi Terry,

I am happy that you are taking this up. Yes, there was a list some time ago; 
Jon and P.O. might have done better bookkeeping - I cannot find it now. From 
memory:

1) Website very outdated
2) Mac installer missing (now a dmg installer is there)
3) Some showstoppers yet (cannot remember, but speed decrease flagged by Walter 
and others)

Maybe it is best to use the SourceForge issue tracking for this purpose; sort 
the issues into version 5.0.0 and beyond, solve the 5.0.0 issues - then release.

Best regards,

René.

> On 17 Jun 2022, at 21:10, Terry Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from going 
> GA?
> 
> If so, can someone point me to it?
> 
> If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?
> 
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> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Michael Lueck]

Greetings again ooRexx'ers,


Also on the topic of reminding what needs completing to release ooRexx v5.0...



Terry Fuller wrote:

Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from going 
GA?

If so, can someone point me to it?

If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?




A contribution of a function add to RexxUtil has gotten derailed...

[feature-requests:#687] https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/687/ 
Add GetCRC32 Rexx DLL call to ooRexx

I have been periodically trying to contact Simon Husin, whom I collaborated with to develop the function to have him comment to Source Forge his contribution. No further reply from him. He did send me 
the permission / release... FWIW. It has been now four months since I last inquired... so trying again.


Is the ooRexx team indeed waiting for him to post the release to the official 
feature request, or are there even more hurdles to pass in order to contribute 
the function code?

I am thankful,

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I allow.

-Simon Husin in Nashville, Tennessee

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 7:53 PM Michael Lueck 
wrote:

> *Name:* Michael Lueck
>
> *Email:* mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com
>
> *Website:*
>
> *Comment:* Greetings Simon,
>
> You have a nice new website since I searched for you a year ago.
>
> I would like to see your valuable work in RexxG* libraries continue to be
> available so that more people might benefit from the very useful CRC32
> function. I tried contributing the source code you provided to me. RexxLA
> will not check it into ooRexx without your permission.
>
> Please see:
>
> [feature-requests:#687]
> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/687/ Add GetCRC32 Rexx
> DLL call to ooRexx
>
> Could you kindly allow permission to transition the one CRC32 call into
> ooRexx?
>
> They would also take care of porting it to 64-bit platforms... where the
> current libraries are unable to go.
>
> I am thankful,
>
> --
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> Lueck Data Systems
> http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
>
>
> --
> Time: October 30, 2020 at 7:53 pm
> IP Address: 97.83.19.97
> Contact Form URL: https://whitesandsgreenwaters.com/contact/
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> Sent by an unverified visitor to your site.
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Yes, go ahead.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 7:47 PM Michael Lueck 
wrote:

> Greetings Simon,
>
> I found you had provided me one more email address to reach you at.
>
> I would like to see your valuable work in RexxG* libraries continue to be
> available so that more people might benefit from the very useful CRC32
> function. I tried contributing the source code you
> provided to me. RexxLA will not check it into ooRexx without your
> permission.
>
> Please see:
>
> [feature-requests:#687]
> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/feature-requests/687/ Add GetCRC32 Rexx
> DLL call to ooRexx
>
> Could you kindly allow permission to transition the one CRC32 call into
> ooRexx?
>
> They would also take care of porting it to 64-bit platforms... where the
> current libraries are unable to go.
>
> I am thankful,
>
> --
> Michael Lueck
> Lueck Data Systems
> http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Michael Lueck]

Greetings ooRexx'ers,


On the topic of reminding what needs completing to release ooRexx v5.0...


Terry Fuller wrote:

Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from going 
GA?

If so, can someone point me to it?

If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?



Two years ago, there was  a discussion about "Strange behaviour RxMath RxCalcSqrt 
function". It had to do with changes in behavior before / after loading BSF4ooRexx.

Rony kindly assisted me with getting the then current BSF4ooRexx running on my system that was loaded with ooRexx v4.1. Running with that version of ooRexx, the sample program provided consistently 
produced the correct result. I replied, however I seem to recall interest in the topic had already passed.


Now I am on a new system that ooRexx v4.1 refused to play nice on... so I 
upgraded to some beta release of ooRexx v5.

$ rexx -v
Open Object Rexx Version 5.0.0 r12279
Build date: Jul  7 2021
Addressing mode: 64

I still have the prior system still loaded with ooRexx v4.1 and the BSF4ooRexx Rony assisted me in getting to work. I have not yet configured this current new system with BSF4ooRexx... so I am unable 
to immediately retest the sample program.


Attaching from the original thread...

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Running the attached script "rxmath.rex"  will yield a weird result on 
my Linux (Mint 19.3, which is based on Ubuntu 18.04) when the RxCalcSqrt 
function is called from the RXBSF.REX for a non-perfect square (129).


The code in RXBSF.REX does only ::REQUIRE  BSF.CLS without using any of 
its possibilities (unless some lines are uncommented) but in turn 
requires the Java library "libjvm.so"


It looks like the ::REQUIRE causes the sqrt function to produce a 
different outcome of the resulting floating point number.


When I run the code on a Windows 10 machine, the results from RXBSF.REX 
are correct. Rony Flatcher ran the scripts on Darwin (MacOS) and there 
the results were correct too.


I included the pure Rexx ::ROUTINE my_sqrt (more or less copied from 
Walter Pachl's rxm.cls on Rosetta.org) to verify that that works OK.


Also before calling RXBSF.REX from rxmath.rex and after returning from 
RXBSF.REX the results of the RxMath rxCalcSqrt function are OK again.


Seems to me that RxMath should not be impacted by another ::REQUIRE (if 
that is the case??).


Anybody with more system experience has some thoughts on how to tackle this?

Cheers,

Ruurd

P.S.

I have now switched to the use of Walter Pachl's  very nice package 
(thanks Walter) that you can find here:






rxmath.rex
Description: application/rexx


RXBSF.REX
Description: application/rexx
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Greetings Ruurd,

Ruurd Idenburg wrote:
Running the attached script "rxmath.rex"  will yield a weird result on my Linux (Mint 19.3, which is based on Ubuntu 18.04) when the RxCalcSqrt function is called from the RXBSF.REX for a non-perfect 
square (129).



Rony kindly assisted me in getting BSF4ooRexx to run on my Xubuntu 16.04 x64 
system with ooRexx 4.2

The results of running your program on my system are as follows:

$ rexx rxmath.rex
rxCalcSqrt(129) before BSF is invoked/loaded: 11.3578167
rxCalcSqrt(121) before BSF is invoked/loaded: 11

Now running RXBSF.REX that only requires BSF CLS
rxCalcSqrt(129) in RXBSF.REX: 11.3578167
rxCalcSqrt(121) in RXBSF.REX: 11

my_sqrt(129) in RXBSF,REX: 11.3578167
my_sqrt(121) in RXBSF.REX: 11
Now leaving RXBSF.REX

rxCalcSqrt(129) after running RXBSF.REX: 11.3578167
rxCalcSqrt(121) after running RXBSF.REX: 11


I wish you would have copied your output as baseline of what you were seeing.

Here are my versions:

$ java -version
openjdk version "1.8.0_252"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_252-8u252-b09-1~16.04-b09)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.252-b09, mixed mode)

$ rexx -v
Open Object Rexx Version 4.2.0
Build date: May  5 2017
Addressing Mode: 64

Copyright (c) IBM Corporation 1995, 2004.
Copyright (c) RexxLA 2005-2013.
All Rights Reserved.
This program and the accompanying materials are made available under
the terms of the Common Public License v1.0 which accompanies this
distribution or at
http://www.oorexx.org/license.html

I am thankful,

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Sanford,

On 17.06.2022 22:53, Sanford Geiger wrote:

I agree that 5.0 is way overdue for GA. The only possible holdup that I can 
think of is full support for all of OLE. Do we have such support?


AFAIK the OLE support is complete since 4.0.

The OLE support has been a little bit enhanced and some bugs that have surfaced in the meantime have 
been fixed.


Is there anything special you are thinking of?

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Sanford Geiger]

I agree that 5.0 is way overdue for GA. The only possible holdup that I can 
think of is full support for all of OLE. Do we have such support?
 

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Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from 
going GA?

If so, can someone point me to it?

If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?

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[Oorexx-devel] ooRexx 5.0 GA

[Terry Fuller]

Is there a list somewhere of showstoppers which are preventing 5.0 from 
going GA?


If so, can someone point me to it?

If not, can I serve as a clearinghouse for reports of showstoppers?

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