Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Josh Stompro]

Hello, 2 years later I did finally get my changes posted for the two bugs I
mentioned.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791

Our local CSS changes can be found at
https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3b930ddc4194fea3672d8b4a8abb96c2f48f061e

Josh

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:49 PM Josh Stompro 
wrote:

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> Joe, I have a fix for keeping the cursor focus always on the scan box.  We
> also use touch screens for our self checks and we were having trouble with
> the fact that it was easy to move the focus, which would cause the next
> scan to silently fail, and sometimes switch screens.
>
> I have a bug report on it, but haven’t actually posted the code there
> yet.  I’ll try and do that soon.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601
>
>
>
> We have also had trouble with the print list button that exists on the
> checkout screen.  Some significant portion of users would press that when
> they were done, get a printout and then walk away.  I guess they thought
> that was the logout and print a receipt button.  Then the next users would
> walk up and sometime check out items on the first person’s account.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791
>
>
>
> I would love to collaborate with you on making the self check more touch
> screen friendly.  I can share the css changes I’ve made just to enlarge
> everything to make it easier to see and to make the buttons easier to press.
>
>
>
> Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:
> open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Knueven
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media
> cases
>
>
>
> While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in
> self-checkout, does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are
> pleased with and would be willing to share?
>
>
>
> I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button
> like (ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an
> especially long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a
> basic amount of tt2 scripting.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
> Joseph Knueven, Director
>
> Germantown Public Library
>
> 51 North Plum Street
>
> Germantown, OH 45327
>
> 937-855-4001
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [
> mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Terran
> McCanna
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <
> open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media
> cases
>
>
>
> >>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
> available.<<
>
> Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that
> they can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have
> books in hand when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that
> they could go to the Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes.
> Online instructions would help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as
> the method of renewal in My Account.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander 
> wrote:
>
> Terran,
>
> Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
> available.
>
> Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
> the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
> that.
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Mike Rylander
>  | President
>  | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>  | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>  | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org
>  | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
>  wrote:
> > Hi Jesse,
> >
> > I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> > developing functi

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self Check and Multiple Languages

[Scott Tracey]

I'd be very interested in this, if anyone has ideas/experience.

Scott Tracey


Assistant Director

West Lafayette Public Library

208 West Columbia Street - West Lafayette, IN 47906
(765) 743-2261

stra...@wlaf.lib.in.us


On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:05 PM Jennifer Pringle <
jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone currently running the Evergreen self check in multiple
> languages or can give us guidance on how to do so?
>
> We'd like to have the self check available in both English and French
> but there doesn't appear to be a locale picker in the self check
> codebase to enable French as an option. Is there a different way to
> enable the translated self check?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jennifer
> --
> Jennifer Pringle
> Co-op Support
> BC Libraries Cooperative
> Tel: 1-888-848-9250
> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop
> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop
>
>

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self Check and Multiple Languages

[Jennifer Pringle]

Hello,

Is anyone currently running the Evergreen self check in multiple  
languages or can give us guidance on how to do so?


We'd like to have the self check available in both English and French  
but there doesn't appear to be a locale picker in the self check  
codebase to enable French as an option. Is there a different way to  
enable the translated self check?


Thanks,

Jennifer
--
Jennifer Pringle
Co-op Support
BC Libraries Cooperative
Tel: 1-888-848-9250
Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop
Website: http://bc.libraries.coop

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Bill Erickson]

I'm late to the thread, but wanted to chime in that we at KCLS make heavy
use of the self checkout interface.   It's heavily modified, primarily for
look and feel, but we are also testing a locally coded version of bug
#1512171 (My OPAC-style renewals).  Unfortunately the code is not easily
shared, since it's built atop years of customization, but we hope to
eventually rebase to the community code, so having it be part of stock EG
is something I'm interested in.

Also, when the time comes for major overhaul, I started a proof-of-concept
branch to port self checkout to Angular.  It's bare bones, but mostly
works, minus a lot of edge case handling.

http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/berick/angular-selfcheck-exp-wip

I'll open a bug for this...

-b



On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Terran McCanna <
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Yes, me too. I tweaked a few little things on ours with the layout, but
> nothing major.
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138 <(404)%20235-7138>
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Yamil Suarez <ysua...@berklee.edu> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> I would like to also see customizations you made made to Self-Check code,
>> so I can get ideas. I had been meaning to ask you when I saw this thread.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Yamil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Yamil Suarez, MCS
>> Associate Director of Library Systems & Web Development
>>
>> Stan Getz Library
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 1140 Boylston St
>> Boston, MA 02215
>>
>> ysua...@berklee.edu
>> 617-747-2617 <(617)%20747-2617>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Josh Stompro <stomp...@exchange.larl.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Joe, I have a fix for keeping the cursor focus always on the scan box.
>>> We also use touch screens for our self checks and we were having trouble
>>> with the fact that it was easy to move the focus, which would cause the
>>> next scan to silently fail, and sometimes switch screens.
>>>
>>> I have a bug report on it, but haven’t actually posted the code there
>>> yet.  I’ll try and do that soon.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have also had trouble with the print list button that exists on the
>>> checkout screen.  Some significant portion of users would press that when
>>> they were done, get a printout and then walk away.  I guess they thought
>>> that was the logout and print a receipt button.  Then the next users would
>>> walk up and sometime check out items on the first person’s account.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would love to collaborate with you on making the self check more touch
>>> screen friendly.  I can share the css changes I’ve made just to enlarge
>>> everything to make it easier to see and to make the buttons easier to press.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>>> e...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe Knueven
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM
>>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking
>>> media cases
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in
>>> self-checkout, does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are
>>> pleased with and would be willing to share?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button
>>> like (ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an
>>> especially long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a
>>> basic amount of tt2 scripting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a good day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joseph Knueven, Director
>>>
>>> Germantown Public Library
>>>
>>> 51 North Plum Street
>>>
>>> Germantown, OH 45327
>>>
>>> 937-855-4001 <(937)%20855-4001>
&

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Terran McCanna]

Yes, me too. I tweaked a few little things on ours with the layout, but
nothing major.

Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Yamil Suarez <ysua...@berklee.edu> wrote:

> Josh,
>
> I would like to also see customizations you made made to Self-Check code,
> so I can get ideas. I had been meaning to ask you when I saw this thread.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Yamil
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Yamil Suarez, MCS
> Associate Director of Library Systems & Web Development
>
> Stan Getz Library
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston St
> Boston, MA 02215
>
> ysua...@berklee.edu
> 617-747-2617 <(617)%20747-2617>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Josh Stompro <stomp...@exchange.larl.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Joe, I have a fix for keeping the cursor focus always on the scan box.
>> We also use touch screens for our self checks and we were having trouble
>> with the fact that it was easy to move the focus, which would cause the
>> next scan to silently fail, and sometimes switch screens.
>>
>> I have a bug report on it, but haven’t actually posted the code there
>> yet.  I’ll try and do that soon.
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601
>>
>>
>>
>> We have also had trouble with the print list button that exists on the
>> checkout screen.  Some significant portion of users would press that when
>> they were done, get a printout and then walk away.  I guess they thought
>> that was the logout and print a receipt button.  Then the next users would
>> walk up and sometime check out items on the first person’s account.
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791
>>
>>
>>
>> I would love to collaborate with you on making the self check more touch
>> screen friendly.  I can share the css changes I’ve made just to enlarge
>> everything to make it easier to see and to make the buttons easier to press.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>> e...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe Knueven
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM
>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media
>> cases
>>
>>
>>
>> While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in
>> self-checkout, does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are
>> pleased with and would be willing to share?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button
>> like (ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an
>> especially long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a
>> basic amount of tt2 scripting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph Knueven, Director
>>
>> Germantown Public Library
>>
>> 51 North Plum Street
>>
>> Germantown, OH 45327
>>
>> 937-855-4001 <(937)%20855-4001>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-bounc
>> e...@list.georgialibraries.org
>> <open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Terran
>> McCanna
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgia
>> libraries.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media
>> cases
>>
>>
>>
>> >>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
>> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
>> available.<<
>>
>> Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that
>> they can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have
>> books in hand when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that
>> they could go to the Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes.
>> Online instructions would help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as
>> the method of renewal in My Account.
>>
>>
>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>> 404-235-7138 <(404)%20235-7138>
>> tmcca...@ge

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Yamil Suarez]

Josh,

I would like to also see customizations you made made to Self-Check code,
so I can get ideas. I had been meaning to ask you when I saw this thread.

Thanks in advance,
Yamil







Yamil Suarez, MCS
Associate Director of Library Systems & Web Development

Stan Getz Library
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston St
Boston, MA 02215

ysua...@berklee.edu
617-747-2617

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Josh Stompro <stomp...@exchange.larl.org>
wrote:

> Joe, I have a fix for keeping the cursor focus always on the scan box.  We
> also use touch screens for our self checks and we were having trouble with
> the fact that it was easy to move the focus, which would cause the next
> scan to silently fail, and sometimes switch screens.
>
> I have a bug report on it, but haven’t actually posted the code there
> yet.  I’ll try and do that soon.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601
>
>
>
> We have also had trouble with the print list button that exists on the
> checkout screen.  Some significant portion of users would press that when
> they were done, get a printout and then walk away.  I guess they thought
> that was the logout and print a receipt button.  Then the next users would
> walk up and sometime check out items on the first person’s account.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791
>
>
>
> I would love to collaborate with you on making the self check more touch
> screen friendly.  I can share the css changes I’ve made just to enlarge
> everything to make it easier to see and to make the buttons easier to press.
>
>
>
> Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
> boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe Knueven
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media
> cases
>
>
>
> While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in
> self-checkout, does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are
> pleased with and would be willing to share?
>
>
>
> I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button
> like (ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an
> especially long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a
> basic amount of tt2 scripting.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
> Joseph Knueven, Director
>
> Germantown Public Library
>
> 51 North Plum Street
>
> Germantown, OH 45327
>
> 937-855-4001 <(937)%20855-4001>
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-
> boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
> <open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Terran
> McCanna
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.
> georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media
> cases
>
>
>
> >>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
> available.<<
>
> Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that
> they can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have
> books in hand when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that
> they could go to the Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes.
> Online instructions would help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as
> the method of renewal in My Account.
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138 <(404)%20235-7138>
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander <mrylan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Terran,
>
> Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
> available.
>
> Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
> the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
> that.
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Mike Rylander
>  | President
>  | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>  | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>  | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org
>  | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
> <tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:
> > Hi Jesse,
> >
> > I just wanted to chime in that I'm not awar

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Josh Stompro]

Joe, I have a fix for keeping the cursor focus always on the scan box.  We also 
use touch screens for our self checks and we were having trouble with the fact 
that it was easy to move the focus, which would cause the next scan to silently 
fail, and sometimes switch screens.
I have a bug report on it, but haven’t actually posted the code there yet.  
I’ll try and do that soon.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1560601

We have also had trouble with the print list button that exists on the checkout 
screen.  Some significant portion of users would press that when they were 
done, get a printout and then walk away.  I guess they thought that was the 
logout and print a receipt button.  Then the next users would walk up and 
sometime check out items on the first person’s account.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1555791

I would love to collaborate with you on making the self check more touch screen 
friendly.  I can share the css changes I’ve made just to enlarge everything to 
make it easier to see and to make the buttons easier to press.

Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Joe 
Knueven
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in self-checkout, 
does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are pleased with and would be 
willing to share?

I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button like 
(ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an especially 
long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a basic amount of 
tt2 scripting.

Have a good day.

Joe


Joseph Knueven, Director
Germantown Public Library
51 North Plum Street
Germantown, OH 45327
937-855-4001

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Terran 
McCanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
<open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org<mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

>>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.<<
Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that they 
can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have books in hand 
when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that they could go to the 
Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes. Online instructions would 
help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as the method of renewal in My 
Account.


Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander 
<mrylan...@gmail.com<mailto:mrylan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Terran,

Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.

Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
that.

HTH,

--
Mike Rylander
 | President
 | Equinox Open Library Initiative
 | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
 | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org<mailto:mi...@equinoxinitiative.org>
 | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
<tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
> Hi Jesse,
>
> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't gotten a
> lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt it,
> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that the
> OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
> <jes...@burlingtonwa.gov<mailto:jes...@burlingtonwa.gov>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently we are running 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Josh Stompro]

Here are links to the bugs for the issues mentioned by Terran:

1.  #1512171 Wishlist: Self Check Item Renewal without item 
present<https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1512171>

2.  #1528685 Self-check - pay fines doesn't work with 
Stripe<https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1528685>


Please comment and mark the bugs as affecting you.  Also, if you have an 
internal process for choosing which development projects to fund, you could add 
some of the self check bugs to the list of items to consider.

We are one of the sites that heavily use the self check feature, it handles 
between 50% and 90% of the checkouts at our sites.  This discussion reminds me 
that we need to put some time and money into improving it.

Josh Stompro - LARL

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Terran 
McCanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

>>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.<<
Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that they 
can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have books in hand 
when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that they could go to the 
Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes. Online instructions would 
help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as the method of renewal in My 
Account.



Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander 
<mrylan...@gmail.com<mailto:mrylan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Terran,

Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.

Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
that.

HTH,

--
Mike Rylander
 | President
 | Equinox Open Library Initiative
 | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
 | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org<mailto:mi...@equinoxinitiative.org>
 | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
<tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
> Hi Jesse,
>
> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't gotten a
> lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt it,
> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that the
> OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
> <jes...@burlingtonwa.gov<mailto:jes...@burlingtonwa.gov>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic
>> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
>> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there is
>> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
>> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
>> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more than
>> its current basic form?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse McCarty
>>
>> City of Burlington
>>
>> IT Technical Assistant
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Kathy Lussier]

Hi Joe,

I don't have any customizations, but for the specific improvement you 
mention, you might want to take a look at


https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1494748

It's available in 2.12

Kathy


On 07/26/2017 11:58 AM, Joe Knueven wrote:


While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in 
self-checkout, does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are 
pleased with and would be willing to share?


I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more 
button like (ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s 
taken me an especially long time to get around to the first step of 
teaching myself a basic amount of tt2 scripting.


Have a good day.

Joe

Joseph Knueven, Director

Germantown Public Library

51 North Plum Street

Germantown, OH 45327

937-855-4001

*From:*Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf 
Of *Terran McCanna

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
*To:* Evergreen Discussion Group 
<open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
*Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking 
media cases


>>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.<<

Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron 
that they can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't 
have books in hand when they wish to renew, so they'd need to 
understand that they could go to the Items out screen and copy and 
paste the barcodes. Online instructions would help, but it still 
wouldn't as user friendly as the method of renewal in My Account.




Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org <mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander <mrylan...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mrylan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Terran,

Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.

Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
that.

HTH,

--
Mike Rylander
 | President
 | Equinox Open Library Initiative
 | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
 | email: mi...@equinoxinitiative.org
<mailto:mi...@equinoxinitiative.org>
 | web: http://equinoxinitiative.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
<tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
> Hi Jesse,
>
> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is
working on
> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface
hasn't gotten a
> lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a
lot of
> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of
things that
> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to
adopt it,
> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same
functionality that the
> OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138 
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org <mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty
<jes...@burlingtonwa.gov <mailto:jes...@burlingtonwa.gov>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes
magnetic
>> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation
references no
>> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was
wondering if there is
>> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the
magnetic
>> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after
feature/planned
>> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be
nothing more than
>> its current basic form?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse McCarty
>>
>> City of Burlington
>>
>> IT Technical Assistant
>>
>>
>
>



--
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Joe Knueven]

While we’re on the subject of user-friendliness of the built in self-checkout, 
does anyone have any .tt2 modifications that they are pleased with and would be 
willing to share?

I’ve had tweaking the scripting to make the navigation links more button like 
(ie touch screen friendly) on my to-do list, but it’s taken me an especially 
long time to get around to the first step of teaching myself a basic amount of 
tt2 scripting.

Have a good day.

Joe


Joseph Knueven, Director
Germantown Public Library
51 North Plum Street
Germantown, OH 45327
937-855-4001

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Terran 
McCanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:16 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

>>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.<<
Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that they 
can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have books in hand 
when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that they could go to the 
Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes. Online instructions would 
help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as the method of renewal in My 
Account.



Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander 
<mrylan...@gmail.com<mailto:mrylan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Terran,

Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.

Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
that.

HTH,

--
Mike Rylander
 | President
 | Equinox Open Library Initiative
 | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
 | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org<mailto:mi...@equinoxinitiative.org>
 | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
<tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>> wrote:
> Hi Jesse,
>
> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't gotten a
> lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt it,
> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that the
> OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
> <jes...@burlingtonwa.gov<mailto:jes...@burlingtonwa.gov>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic
>> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
>> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there is
>> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
>> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
>> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more than
>> its current basic form?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse McCarty
>>
>> City of Burlington
>>
>> IT Technical Assistant
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Terran McCanna]

>>Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
available.<<

Interesting. There's nothing in the interface that tells the patron that
they can do that, or that tells them how. Patrons typically don't have
books in hand when they wish to renew, so they'd need to understand that
they could go to the Items out screen and copy and paste the barcodes.
Online instructions would help, but it still wouldn't as user friendly as
the method of renewal in My Account.




Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Rylander  wrote:

> Terran,
>
> Hrm... Renewal seems to work fine.  You just scan an item that's
> already checked out and it figures out that a renewal is in order and
> available.
>
> Also, just as a note, the UI got a nice update about a year ago to add
> the ability to email receipts, including using patron defaults for
> that.
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Mike Rylander
>  | President
>  | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>  | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>  | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org
>  | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
>  wrote:
> > Hi Jesse,
> >
> > I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> > developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't
> gotten a
> > lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
> > libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> > libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
> > could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt
> it,
> > like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that
> the
> > OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Terran McCanna
> > PINES Program Manager
> > Georgia Public Library Service
> > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> > Atlanta, GA 30345
> > 404-235-7138
> > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic
> >> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
> >> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if
> there is
> >> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
> >> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
> >> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more
> than
> >> its current basic form?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jesse McCarty
> >>
> >> City of Burlington
> >>
> >> IT Technical Assistant
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Rogan Hamby]

And that is the beauty of open source.   :)




Rogan Hamby

Data and Project Analyst

Equinox Open Library Initiative

phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)

email:  ro...@equinoxinitiative.org
web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mike Rylander  wrote:

> Interestingly, Grand Rapids PL (Bill Ott) has done exactly that:
> http://www.rfidjournal.com/articles/view?9914
>
> I'm not sure if it's still in use, though.
>
> --
> Mike Rylander
>  | President
>  | Equinox Open Library Initiative
>  | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>  | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org
>  | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Rogan Hamby
>  wrote:
> > Just a quick thought that regardless of where the code resided to do the
> > unlocking (internal to Evergreen or in a third party product) some third
> > party hardware would be required to do this so the inherent division
> between
> > ILS code and vendor hardware is always going to be there and therefore
> it's
> > more likely that the unlocking will remain on the side of the hardware
> > vendor.
> >
> > That isn't to say that someone couldn't write their own native Evergreen
> > client to do all this with their own hardware but the task would be ...
> > non-trivial.  :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rogan Hamby
> >
> > Data and Project Analyst
> >
> > Equinox Open Library Initiative
> >
> > phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
> >
> > email:  ro...@equinoxinitiative.org
> >
> > web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jesse,
> >>
> >> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> >> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't
> gotten a
> >> lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
> >> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> >> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
> >> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt
> it,
> >> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality
> that the
> >> OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Terran McCanna
> >> PINES Program Manager
> >> Georgia Public Library Service
> >> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> >> Atlanta, GA 30345
> >> 404-235-7138
> >> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes
> magnetic
> >>> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
> >>> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if
> there is
> >>> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
> >>> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
> >>> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more
> than
> >>> its current basic form?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jesse McCarty
> >>>
> >>> City of Burlington
> >>>
> >>> IT Technical Assistant
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Mike Rylander]

Interestingly, Grand Rapids PL (Bill Ott) has done exactly that:
http://www.rfidjournal.com/articles/view?9914

I'm not sure if it's still in use, though.

--
Mike Rylander
 | President
 | Equinox Open Library Initiative
 | phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
 | email:  mi...@equinoxinitiative.org
 | web:  http://equinoxinitiative.org


On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Rogan Hamby
 wrote:
> Just a quick thought that regardless of where the code resided to do the
> unlocking (internal to Evergreen or in a third party product) some third
> party hardware would be required to do this so the inherent division between
> ILS code and vendor hardware is always going to be there and therefore it's
> more likely that the unlocking will remain on the side of the hardware
> vendor.
>
> That isn't to say that someone couldn't write their own native Evergreen
> client to do all this with their own hardware but the task would be ...
> non-trivial.  :)
>
>
>
>
> Rogan Hamby
>
> Data and Project Analyst
>
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>
> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>
> email:  ro...@equinoxinitiative.org
>
> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jesse,
>>
>> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
>> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't gotten a
>> lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
>> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
>> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
>> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt it,
>> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that the
>> OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Terran McCanna
>> PINES Program Manager
>> Georgia Public Library Service
>> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
>> Atlanta, GA 30345
>> 404-235-7138
>> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic
>>> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
>>> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there is
>>> a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
>>> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
>>> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more than
>>> its current basic form?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jesse McCarty
>>>
>>> City of Burlington
>>>
>>> IT Technical Assistant
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Rogan Hamby]

Just a quick thought that regardless of where the code resided to do the
unlocking (internal to Evergreen or in a third party product) some third
party hardware would be required to do this so the inherent division
between ILS code and vendor hardware is always going to be there and
therefore it's more likely that the unlocking will remain on the side of
the hardware vendor.

That isn't to say that someone couldn't write their own native Evergreen
client to do all this with their own hardware but the task would be ...
non-trivial.  :)




Rogan Hamby

Data and Project Analyst

Equinox Open Library Initiative

phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)

email:  ro...@equinoxinitiative.org
web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Terran McCanna <
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote:

> Hi Jesse,
>
> I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
> developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't gotten
> a lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
> libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
> libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
> could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt it,
> like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that
> the OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.
>
>
>
> Terran McCanna
> PINES Program Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Suite 150
> Atlanta, GA 30345
> 404-235-7138 <(404)%20235-7138>
> tmcca...@georgialibraries.org
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic
>> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
>> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there
>> is a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
>> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
>> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more than
>> its current basic form?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse McCarty
>>
>> City of Burlington
>>
>> IT Technical Assistant
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Terran McCanna]

Hi Jesse,

I just wanted to chime in that I'm not aware of anyone who is working on
developing functionality like that. The self-check interface hasn't gotten
a lot of attention in the past few years, possibly because not a lot of
libraries are using it. (Only 2 or 3 libraries out of our 285 total
libraries that have opted to use it.) There are a number of things that
could be done to improve it which would encourage more people to adopt it,
like adding the ability to pay fines through the same functionality that
the OPAC uses, and to allow patrons to renew books through it.



Terran McCanna
PINES Program Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Suite 150
Atlanta, GA 30345
404-235-7138
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jesse McCarty 
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic
> locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no
> security mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there
> is a way for the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic
> unlockers for security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned
> possibility? Or is the built in self-check designed to be nothing more than
> its current basic form?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Jesse McCarty
>
> City of Burlington
>
> IT Technical Assistant
>
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Forrest, Stuart]

Jesse

We Also have ITG self checks (Now Bibliotheca) with built in lockers and as far 
as I am aware it is the self check software that activates the unlockers 
depending on the SIP response received from the ILS server.

Stuart

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Beaufort County Library System
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From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jesse 
McCarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:17 PM
To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

Hello Everyone,

Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic 
locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no security 
mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there is a way for 
the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic unlockers for 
security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned possibility? Or is the 
built in self-check designed to be nothing more than its current basic form?

Thanks in advance,

Jesse McCarty
City of Burlington
IT Technical Assistant

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self-Check and locking media cases

[Jesse McCarty]

Hello Everyone,

Currently we are running an ITG self-check system that utilizes magnetic 
locking cases for DVDs and CDs. I know the documentation references no security 
mechanisms in Evergreen self-check, but I was wondering if there is a way for 
the Evergreen self-check to interact/activate the magnetic unlockers for 
security cases? Is this a sought after feature/planned possibility? Or is the 
built in self-check designed to be nothing more than its current basic form?

Thanks in advance,

Jesse McCarty
City of Burlington
IT Technical Assistant

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Self Check

[Joan Kranich]

Hi,

I have a few problems with using the Evergreen self check that I haven't
been able to solve.

1.  Often times after checking out when I click Logout the tracking bar
just hangs and nothing prints.  I have enabled pop-ups and set my receipt
printer as the default.  The library has open hours entered in the org
unit. The computer will print to the printer.  It's just a problem after
checking out items in the self check.  This is more of a problem in Firefox
than Chrome.

2.  Using Firefox if I assign workstation then when I try to log in with
the staff login I get Login Failed.  If I do not assign a workstation the
login works.

https://[hostname]/eg/circ/selfcheck/main?ws=[workstation name]

[hostname] is my server and I do enter a real workstation name at the end.

Testing today was on 2.10.5.  A library experiencing these problems is
using 2.9.5.

Thank you for any tips.

Joan

Joan Kranich
C/W MARS Member Services
jkran...@cwmars.org
508-755-3323 ext. 321 or ext. 1