Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On 11 Jun 2009 at 12:41, Mike Christie wrote: Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? I think as long as this list is rather low volume (i.e. few messages per day), it's OK to have a single list. Ulrich Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: do we need a new list for kernel patches
see what features are making progress? Does splitting the mailing list to userpace and kernel have merit? Thoughts ... Was this mail stuck in moderation? Yeah, not sure what happened, because you were using your dell account. I just saw it today in the list of mail that needed review. By my reckon of the e-mails about this, most people thought it best to keep it as is. Meaning one reflector for userspace+kernel issues/patches/etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: do we need a new list for kernel patches
-Original Message- From: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com [mailto:open-is...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Christie Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 PM To: open-iscsi Subject: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? Does splitting the mailing list to userpace and kernel have merit? Thoughts ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: do we need a new list for kernel patches
-Original Message- From: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com [mailto:open-is...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of shyam_i...@dell.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:39 PM To: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do we need a new list for kernel patches -Original Message- From: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com [mailto:open- is...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Christie Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 PM To: open-iscsi Subject: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? Does splitting the mailing list to userpace and kernel have merit? Thoughts ... Was this mail stuck in moderation? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: do we need a new list for kernel patches
shyam_i...@dell.com wrote: -Original Message- From: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com [mailto:open-is...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of shyam_i...@dell.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:39 PM To: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do we need a new list for kernel patches -Original Message- From: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com [mailto:open- is...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Christie Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:11 PM To: open-iscsi Subject: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? Does splitting the mailing list to userpace and kernel have merit? Thoughts ... Was this mail stuck in moderation? Yeah, not sure what happened, because you were using your dell account. I just saw it today in the list of mail that needed review. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
I agree that having just one mailing list is the most convenient for kernel developers. But not everyone who is subscribed to open-iscsi is a kernel developer. Wouldn't it be more convenient for iSCSI users to have two lists -- one intended for iSCSI users, and one for iSCSI developers, such that the users can subscribe to the former only ? Just my two cents. Bart. From my experience this makes users loos on the Kernel guys. Kernel guys are busy, and mind their own business, but if a question comes up, which they know the answer they would occasionally participate. Splitting will loos that. I think Bart is talking about two camps of users: developers (both kernel and user-land), and those seeking help. I think iscsi mailing-list is not that big and still easy to monitor. Just set your mailer to view by thread, and it's easy to jump over threads that are not interesting. I have to agree, Ctrl-D in mutt is wonderfull thing. My $0.017 Boaz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
Having everything in a single list sounds like a better idea to me. If we have 2 lists, many people will have to monitor both. Erez --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
Mike Christie wrote: So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. Yes, lets have all iscsi kernel patches sent over a list and not private threads, so people can review and comment. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? Yes, lets have all iscsi patches sent over one list, e.g as the iproute patches are sent over netdev. Or. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On 06/11/2009 08:41 PM, Mike Christie wrote: Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? I vote: One list, All patches posted Boaz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Boaz Harroshbharr...@panasas.com wrote: On 06/11/2009 08:41 PM, Mike Christie wrote: It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? I vote: One list, All patches posted I agree that having just one mailing list is the most convenient for kernel developers. But not everyone who is subscribed to open-iscsi is a kernel developer. Wouldn't it be more convenient for iSCSI users to have two lists -- one intended for iSCSI users, and one for iSCSI developers, such that the users can subscribe to the former only ? Just my two cents. Bart. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On 06/14/2009 12:52 PM, Bart Van Assche wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Boaz Harroshbharr...@panasas.com wrote: On 06/11/2009 08:41 PM, Mike Christie wrote: It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? I vote: One list, All patches posted I agree that having just one mailing list is the most convenient for kernel developers. But not everyone who is subscribed to open-iscsi is a kernel developer. Wouldn't it be more convenient for iSCSI users to have two lists -- one intended for iSCSI users, and one for iSCSI developers, such that the users can subscribe to the former only ? Just my two cents. Bart. From my experience this makes users loos on the Kernel guys. Kernel guys are busy, and mind their own business, but if a question comes up, which they know the answer they would occasionally participate. Splitting will loos that. I think iscsi mailing-list is not that big and still easy to monitor. Just set your mailer to view by thread, and it's easy to jump over threads that are not interesting. My $0.017 Boaz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:41:17PM -0500, Mike Christie wrote: Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? I think it's OK to send patches to this list. It's easier to see everything in one place. Just my 2 eurocents :) -- Pasi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On 06/11/2009 07:41 PM, Mike Christie wrote: Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? As someone more interested in the userspace side of open-iscsi I sure wouldn't mind missing all the kernel driver patches, actually I would welcome that, less mail is more :) Regards, Hans --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:41:17PM -0500, Mike Christie wrote: Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Send it here. That way the converstations are also archived for future references. Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? Yes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RFC: do we need a new list for kernel patches
Creating a new list would be a better idea. On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 12:41 -0500, Mike Christie wrote: Hey, It seems like we have a lot of members on the list that are not kernel developers, but we now have 5 iscsi drivers (qla4xxx, bnx2i, cxgb3i, iscsi_tcp and ib_iser) with another being written. So it seems like we are going to have lots of patches. I would also like to start sending my kernel patches out in a way that everyone can see them. Previously to avoid noise on this list, I have been pinging you guys privately which just does not work so well now when we have so many people. What do you people think? Do other people on the list prefer to see everything here, so you can see what features are making progress? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups open-iscsi group. To post to this group, send email to open-iscsi@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to open-iscsi+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/open-iscsi -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
