Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??
Aren't we missing the larger issue? Proper certification of health information systems is going to be expensive, and that is probably unavoidable. Moeover, someone is going to have to bear the burden of that cost. I'm not sure that this question should really be tied to the certification model, though. One issue is primarily technical: How do we determine that this device or system is safe? The other is a business question: Who's going to pay for it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??
This is an interesting discussion. However we do have some decisions to make. 1. Does the different nature free and open source medical software warrant different consideration than proprietary models for CCHIT certification pricing. (If a large number of people feel this way then we should draft our own letter.) Yes/No 2. In NOT should the pricing generally be lowered for everyone so that small and open source projects will have the opportunity to get certified. (If you feel this way then you should just sign the emrupdate.com letter) Yes/No Feel free to continue the substance of the discussion by saying why or why not for your answers. In any case if you feel that a letter should be written or signed... now is the time to do so the review window is closing. -- Fred Trotter SynSeer, Consultant http://www.fredtrotter.com http://www.synseer.com phone: (480)290-8109 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[openhealth] Re: [Amazon S3
From: Tim.Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any other ideas for S3? 1) Wait for Google to offer it for free :) Seriously, Google already offers 2GB of free web 'mail' space. Someone has already figured out how to make a file system like interface to that. This is the tip of an iceberg in the developed countries that further widens the gap between the 'Netties' and network impoverished. What if storage on the net is free and unlimited? What if all electronic information is indexed on the net? How would one design distributed systems when the storage and retrieval of data became decoupled (and replaced with a web service) from the systems you use to manipulate that data? What are the issues? Who is in control of the data? Where are the boundaries of control? How can I trust them to do what they say they will do with the data? Just so you don't think these are abstract issues, where I work we just promulagated policy that strongly suggested that google desktop be uninstalled or otherwise disabled on all organizational owned workstations. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [openhealth] Re: CCHIT biased towards proprietary software?
Greg Woodhouse wrote: Every software developer writes unit tests, In your dreams! but the unit test typically end up being files on their hard drives at some point. Making unit tests into artifacts is a relatively recent phenomenon, Agreed, but I had recent releases of open source software in mind. and even more so is the idea of writing test cases before you code (one of the tents of XP). If unit tests are included in the distribution, so much the better! But I wouldn't overstate the value of these tests. They might tell you that the nails were driven in all the way, or that current flows to the electric lights, but they're not going to tell you whether or not a building is structurally sound. Hence your reference to the tents of eXtreme Programming? Tim C --- Tim.Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Wayne Wilson wrote: Finally if software is developed with unit test capabilities, it is quite easy to repeat unit tests upon software modification, so this does not become much of a burden either. Indeed. My approach these days when considering open source software components for serious use is to look for the unit tests (and for functional and integration tests too). If there are no unit tests, it indicates that the code was written on a wing-and-a-prayer basis and is best avoided. Tim C === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) SPONSORED LINKS Software distribution http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+distributionw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=XcuzZXUhhqAa4nls1QYuCg Salon software http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Salon+softwarew1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=CW98GQRF3_rWnTxU62jsdA Medical software http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Medical+softwarew1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=86bMQqtlpuDBvFzrRcQApw Software association http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+associationw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=YhKUbszKHqjPXh21AbTSwg Software jewelry http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+jewelryw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=9EWe0V3gtVyQaCqOgchvlw Software deployment http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Software+deploymentw1=Software+distributionw2=Salon+softwarew3=Medical+softwarew4=Software+associationw5=Software+jewelryw6=Software+deploymentc=6s=142.sig=VNvgzp250z70B2EFV3JYqg YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group openhealth http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[openhealth] Important announcement and oshca update
Dear all, I am happy to annouce that the transfer of the domain name oshca.org from Brian had been completed. Brian is in the process of creating and signing a document disclaiming rights to the OSHCA trademark. Thank you Brian for these initiatives. I understand that Brian will also make a decision with regards to the fate of the openhealth lists on Minoru and Yahoo by this weekend. I'll leave that to Brian to make that annoucement. As for the status of OSHCA, the protem committee members (volunteers expressed on the list as well as those agreed to serve when requested) are as follows: Joseph dal Molin (Canada/US) Adrian Midgley (UK/Europe) Thomas Beale (Australia/Pacific islands) Nandalal Gunaratne (Sri Lanka/Asia) Molly Cheah (Malaysia/Asia) I hope to keep the protem committee small for quick decision making but hope to add 2 more names, preferably from South America and Africa/Middle East by the time we submit the incorporation documents for registration. Please volunteer. These numbers and representation structure can change after incorporation if members wish so. I don't know how much discussion should go into the incorporation process or how much time should be alotted. My proposed timeline for completion of incorporation is 3 months from 15th April 2006 - tentative date for submission of papers. We should have OSHCA ressurrected by 15th July 2006, barring unforseen circumstances. Here are my assumptions in order to realise this initiative: 1. Provisions in the constitution/MA of OSHCA is a living document and can be changed by members' majority wishes. For purpose of incorporation, we will take into consideration past discussions (2002-2004) and make the provisions as general and flexible as possible to meet incorporation requirements. 2. There is no objection to incorporate ina developing country like Malaysia. There will be provisions for setting up geographical sections/branches etc with as much de-centralization as possible. 3.The Vision, Mission Statements, Principles and Activities as discussed earlier this year will be included in the incorporation papers. Any suggestion of changes posted on the Yahoo list by 15th April will be taken into consideration by the protem committee for incorporation. Procedures will be provided for amendments to be made after incorporation. 4. Elections for new committee members can take place immediately after incorporation. Provision will be made for the protem committee to stay on for a defined number of months to attend to teething issues that may arise. 5. The yahoo list will continue to discuss organising the 1st post-incorporation OSHCA meeting scheduled for later part of 2006 to kick-start/launch OSHCA. This may not be in the form of a full conference. I would like to see presentations of current status of open source healthcare solutions/applicaions. It should also provide the opportunity to include indepth discussions on planning for the future of OSHCA so that its resurrection becomes meaningful - reflecting more than just a community of open source enthusiasts in health care. If there are no other bidders, I plan to get funding to do this in Malaysia. Naturally it may be on a modest scale. Please feel free to propose ideas.The protem committee will work on an action plan and invite volunteers to help. Molly Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
