Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris static IP and hostname
Yes. NWAM can handle static addresses as well. I was running it using the 'edit /etc/nwam/llp' file. But with latest build, that is not working. sysidtool-net on a default install (b134) seems to run DHCP client *after* nwam has run. a quick and dirty is to add an exit 0 to /lib/svc/method/sysidtool-net to prevent this from occuring. Darren Mackay -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris static IP and hostname
Hi, - assumes you are current a user or role that has write perms for the relevant conf files... in /etc/nwam/llp rge0 [tab] static 192.168.1.1/24 up - replace rge0 with your network interface instance, and the IP mask as appropriate. Your llp file should already have the instance with dhcp present. and for your default gateway (edit IP as necessary): echo 192.168.1.254 /etc/defaultrouter then svcadm restart nwam echo hostname /etc/nodename - may need to reboot for the new hostname to take affect. Cheers, Darren Mackay -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] onnv 135 MIA? Skipped or delayed? (knock, knock) Is this Mic turned on?...
The BFU for b136 was made available in the past 24 hours: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b136/ (although http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ still points to a nightly build as I am writing this post) The BFU for b135 has been available for a around 4 weeks (give or take a few days). Given previous history (the past 2 years), this *usually* means that the previous BFU release is in the process of being cut and released. However, also given the past 2 opensolaris releases, and that b134 was originally slated as the 2010.03 release, I am not expecting to see ISO / USB images releases for for anything past b135 until approx 2 weeks after the 2010.03 (or what ever this will now be called). I personally think that bug id 6924824 (and related cases) is a show stopper for 2010.03. Speculation and opinion: I think the unified storage platform (ie - 7000 series) would generate significantly more revenue that opensolaris support contracts, thus show stoppers for that platform would probably drive fixing the bug sooner, provided customers are logging support incidents as Sev1 / Sev2. Darren Mackay http://www.sikkra.com/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/velitium/ -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] onnv 135 MIA? Skipped or delayed? (knock, knock) Is this Mic turned on?...
Are you running a development build or the unified storage distro? Currently, *I believe* that the only supported release for zfs dedup was 2010.Q1 of the unified storage platform - perhaps someone else can correct me if my understanding is wrong here 2010.Q1 was only released 10th March. If you are running a dev build (which based on your post, I think this is the case - please correct me if my interpretation is wrong), I think you are very very brave running a dev build in prod... Especially as there has never been any formal support of development builds that I am aware. You do have another option though - but it will probably cost... Given you have 00's of TB of deduped data already... If this is critical to the business, and the business cannot wait, you could approach you account and engage oracle professional services to write the fix you require, particularly if no dates have been provided when a fix will be released. Again, if this is business critical, you could approach Pawel Dawidek from the BSD community - he gave a talk on GEOM at the Kernel Conf in Brisbane last year, and he seemed very knowledgeable on the ZFS code-base - he may also be able to assist, or direct you to someone who can. Internally, we have fairly good knowledge of parts of the ZFS code-base - so we may be able to assist. But our expertise is elsewhere in the ZFS code-base, and not in the dedup code. You best option will still be to approach your account exec directly Although I think my reply to the original poster re this issue being a show stopper may accelerate the natural order in the universe... I can only suggest sitting tight. Cheers, and good luck. Darren Mackay http://www.sikkra.com/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/velitium/ -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?
a number of apps support zfs extended attributes, but not many support backup up snapshots in a format that can be *easily* recovered (ie - as a regular snapshot of a filesystem). hopefully this will change in the future ;-) if you want to backup snapshot too, then perhaps something like: mkfifo /tmp/some_pipe zfs snapshot ... zfs send -I startsnap endsnap /tmp/some_pipe then something that is able to backup to tape from a pipe, and manage your tapes, etc - use what you are comfortable with, but not all backup apps are the same note - if changing tapes takes too long, the pipe *may* actually time out on the send side if you are not careful... opensolaris also has an ndmp service - so if your backup app support grabbing data form an ndmp enabled nas, then you may want to look into this - although, I am not sure if this metho will also grab any zvols (I have never tried the ndmp agent to be honest, this suggestion is purely speculative). recovery is a little more tricky for rpool, but other pools are basically the same... Cheers, Darren Mackay http://www.sikkra.com/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/velitium/ -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] kernel panic on zpool import
I have searched the forums and google wide, but cannot find a fix for the issue I'm currently experiencing. Long story short - I'm now at a point where I cannot even import my zpool (zpool import -f tank) without causing a kernel panic I'm running OpenSolaris snv_111b and the zpool is version 14. This is the panic from /var/adm/messages; (full output attached); genunix: [ID 361072 kern.notice] zfs: freeing free segment (offset=3540185931776 size=22528) This is the output I get from zpool import; # zpool import pool: tank id: 15136317365944618902 state: ONLINE status: The pool was last accessed by another system. action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier and the '-f' flag. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-EY config: tankONLINE raidz1ONLINE c9t4d0 ONLINE c9t5d0 ONLINE c9t6d0 ONLINE c9t7d0 ONLINE raidz1ONLINE c9t0d0 ONLINE c9t1d0 ONLINE c9t2d0 ONLINE c9t3d0 ONLINE I tried pulling back some info via this zdb command, but i'm not sure if i'm on the right track here (as zpool import seems to see the zpool without issue). This result is similar from all drives; # zdb -l /dev/dsk/c9t4d0 LABEL 0 failed to unpack label 0 LABEL 1 failed to unpack label 1 LABEL 2 failed to unpack label 2 LABEL 3 failed to unpack label 3 I also can complete zdb -e tank without issues – it lists all my snapshots and various objects without problem (this is still running on the machine at the moment) I have put the following into /etc/system; set zfs:zfs_recover=1 set aok=1 i've also tried mounting the zpool read only with zpool import -f -o ro tank but no luck.. I dont know where to go next? – am I meant to try and recover using an older txg? E. I would be extremely grateful to anyone who can offer advice on how to resolve this issue as the pool contains irreplaceable photos. Unfortunately I have not done any backups for a while as I thought raidz would be my savour. :( please help -- This message posted from opensolaris.orgOct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris unix: [ID 836849 kern.notice] Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris ^Mpanic[cpu0]/thread=ff000b6f7c60: Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 361072 kern.notice] zfs: freeing free segment (offset=3540185931776 size=22528) Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris unix: [ID 10 kern.notice] Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f75f0 genunix:vcmn_err+2c () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f76e0 zfs:zfs_panic_recover+ae () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7770 zfs:space_map_remove+13c () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7820 zfs:space_map_load+260 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7860 zfs:metaslab_activate+64 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7920 zfs:metaslab_group_alloc+2b7 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7a00 zfs:metaslab_alloc_dva+295 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7aa0 zfs:metaslab_alloc+9b () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7ad0 zfs:zio_dva_allocate+3e () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7b00 zfs:zio_execute+a0 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7b60 zfs:zio_notify_parent+a6 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7b90 zfs:zio_ready+188 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7bc0 zfs:zio_execute+a0 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7c40 genunix:taskq_thread+193 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff000b6f7c50 unix:thread_start+8 () Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris unix: [ID 10 kern.notice] Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 672855 kern.notice] syncing file systems... Oct 11 17:16:55 opensolaris genunix: [ID 904073 kern.notice] done Oct 11 17:16:56 opensolaris genunix: [ID 111219 kern.notice] dumping to /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/dump, offset 65536, content: kernel Oct 11 17:17:09 opensolaris genunix: [ID 409368 kern.notice] ^M100% done: 168706 pages dumped, compression ratio 3.58, Oct 11 17:17:09 opensolaris genunix: [ID 851671 kern.notice] dump succeeded___
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Which kind of ACLs does tmpfssupport?
Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: If the test suite is going to be running on nv_128 or later, then you are guaranteed to have a zfs filesystem, since root must be zfs then (since the only install method will be IPS, which requires zfs root). Until then you could just document to run it on a system with a zfs filesystem available. Are you kidding? pkg will install just fine onto other filesystems eg: $ pkg image-create -a opensolaris.org=http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev /tmp/darrenm/myimage $ pkg -R /tmp/darrenm/myimage install SUNWmkcd /tmp is tmpfs on this sytem and note that the prompt is $ not # pkg doesn't even require you be root. Whats more pkg isn't even specific to Solaris it works on other UNIX like systems and even on Windows. So it is clearly false that it requires ZFS since that doesn't even exist on all the other platforms. Don't confuse the decisions made for the OpenSolaris 2009.06 releases of only supporting and allowing install to ZFS root with the capabilities of the package system. An installer that depends on the availability of a specific root filesystem is based on a design bug. What is the reason? Is there still no pkgrm command in IPS? If Yes, then it is obvious that IPS is not yet ready for production use. See the man page for pkg: pkg uninstall [-nrvq] [--no-index] package... If you want to discuss pkg capabilities more please continue this discussion on pkg-disc...@opensolaris.org where the pkg experts will be happy to engage. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [pkg-discuss] [on-discuss] ON/SXCE bi-weekly schedule not valid anymore?
Peter Tribble wrote: # ptime pkgadd SUNWzsh real 2.390 user 0.808 sys1.380 That I assume was local disk, right ? # ptime pkg install SUNWzsh real 2:30.397 user 11.191 sys 2.770 Did this needed to transfer over the network or was it a local repo ? -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Blastwave repository down?
Awesome-thanks! I have been enjoying the new opensolaris install, and there are only a few things more to tie down for it to be excellent. Running on an XPS M1710 with 4G ram-stable and smooth. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Blastwave repository down?
Hello! I have searched for a couple of days on how to add the Blastwave repository to the package manager, to no avail. No matter which method I use, they all error out. I've tried from the command line, I've tried adding it through the manager. Any idea if it is still up? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote
Wes Felter wrote: slog and L2ARC on the same SSD You can do that already today. Create two slices using format(1M) and add the slices rather than the whole disk as the L2ARC or slog device. However IMO this is with current SSD techology probably the wrong thing to do. The slog wants a very fast write devices, the L2ARC wants a very fast read device. Unless your SSD is fast at both reads and writes using the same SSD for the slog and L2ARC isn't a good idea. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix (VDPAU) [PSARC/2009/059 FastTrack timeout 02/05/2009]
Shawn Walker wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: John Martin wrote: Are there any plans for integrating this with any actual applications, or with gstreamer or other desktop video apps? NVIDIA already provides patches to the ffmpeg library and the mplayer application to enable VDPAU. A pity OpenSolaris doesn't have ffmpeg or mplayer though. I would hope that the fluendo folks can make the necessary changes to their codecs to take advantage of this; paired with their upcoming dvd player, we might finally have a first-class DVD playback experience on OpenSolaris. DVD playback isn't only one reason for having ffmpeg on OpenSolaris though. There are other use cases such as DLNA/UPnP servers such as mediatomb where ffmpeg is being used for transcoding. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [networking-discuss] Megacli, NetCat, and Virt-Install Test Suites Released
Jim Walker wrote: .. Vladimir Kotal from the Solaris RPE Security group, has released the NetCat test suite. More information on the NetCat test suite can be found at: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/networking/tests/nc/ http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/test/ontest-stc2/src/suites/net/nc/README http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/test/ontest-stc2/src/suites/net/nc/ Thanks for the news Jim, I've updated the table of OpenSolaris Networking Test Suites to include a reference to this. The table can be found at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/networking/tests/ Cheers, Darren ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Auto fsck filesystems upon reboot if disk corrupt?
So here's the scenario. We have roughly 800 boxes out in various locations running OpenSolaris snv_81. There is no technical staff at these locations. Often if there's a connectivity issue, the staff will just power cycle the machine, which is not ideal. Sometimes there is disk corruption as a result of these repeated power cycles and the machine will go into system maintenance mode. Ouch. The default is for UFS filesystems to be in logging mode and ZFS always has logging. So a simple power outage shouldn't cause corruption. Are you talking UFS or ZFS? If UFS, can you confirm the filesystems don't have 'nologging' set as a mount option? I'm wondering if there's anyway to configure the OS to auto fsck the filesystem upon reboot if the OS detects the drives as being unclean, because what happens is that if the box goes into maintenance mode, we need to build a new one and ship it out to the remote location and as a result they are down for 24 hours or so. fsck can't fix everything. I'm very worried that if the log replay fails, you're going to have serious corruption. However, as with all things in the computer world, it is possible to do this (even if it may not be a good idea). The default startup action is to fsck all filesystems. But it only does operations that should be pretty safe. If things are bad enough, it stops and demands an administrator examine. The result of running 'fsck -y' at this point could be to remove valid data. If you look at /lib/svc/share/fs_include.sh, there's a section on the default fsck options. You'll see that UFS is set to -o p, which does a safe check. If you change that to -o y, it'll answer yes to all checks, even unsafe and potentially dangerous ones. -- Darren -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Is there any movement on Nvidia 780a drivers -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Software RAID in solaris 10?
You can't really add a drive to Raid-5 either (at least not in SVM). You can do it, but it's not really RAID-5 any more because the data isn't striped across the new disk. It's concatenated. So it doesn't really offer a better add-a-drive situation. Write performance of SVM raid-5 will be much worse than the write performance of raid-z on similar devices. -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] ps -ef running really slow on non-global zone
Has anyone encountered any issues with the 'ps -ef' command running really slow on a non-global zone ? Th ecommand runs instantly on the global zone, but takes around 1 minute to show all running proccesses on the local zone? Obviously need to do some further investigation, but just wondered if someone had a quick fix. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ps -ef running really slow on non-global zone
Frank, thanks for the reply, I've managed to work out what the issue was. There was no nscd running, so it had to go off to a remote name server each time to resolve the process owner. 'svcadm enable name-service-cache' cleared things up. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Mritun As I stated earlier I had done this already and it does not work. The switch is D-link and has 5 other machines connected one is a PS3 and all work fine. Including this machine that works fine in all but opensolaris. So go figure the opensolaris driver for Nge is not handling the card correctly, this method may have worked to give you a work around for your M2NPV, but hardly a solution. Hence the word used Rubbush for a solution or option, don't take it personally. I am very serious about moving away from Windows and hate the fact that the machine runs great on windows but not on opensolaris. THis is not a reflection on opensolaris merely a reflection of the market today. Solaris is the best operating system in the world as far as I am concerned and second rate fixes and work arounds are not appropriate. Especially if we want a development community to shift away from that aborable operating system of MS windows/Vista. Sorry ranting But this is stopping me from shifting complety onto OpenSolaris and having windows in a domU. Add maybe a boot of windows for high need graphics games, which maybe oneday will come in Solaris(OH how I dream). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Thanks lars I had already set this up manually so Nwam was not enabled anyway, but here is a copy of what I did which was just run through your steps any way. I do not think the current nge driver is capable of dealing with this network card that somes as part of the 780a chipset. I also lot's of stuff on google where the linux and freebsd community are having the same issues. I have also logged and RFE which has now been accepted as no CR 6716752 . Anyway here is the commands executed. __ # svcs -a |grep physical disabled 19:14:57 svc:/network/physical:nwam online 19:15:03 svc:/network/physical:default # svcadm disable svc:/network/physical:nwam # svcadm enable svc:/network/physical:default # svcs -a |grep physical disabled 19:14:57 svc:/network/physical:nwam online 19:15:03 svc:/network/physical:default # ifconfig /dev/nge0 down ifconfig: setifflags: SIOCGLIFFLAGS: /dev/nge0: no such interface # ifconfig -a lo0: flags=2001000849UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4,VIRTUAL mtu 8232 index 1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff00 nge0: flags=201000843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4,CoS mtu 1500 index 2 inet 10.1.1.101 netmask ff00 broadcast 10.255.255.255 ether 7a:a6:73:c6:1f:0 lo0: flags=2002000849UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv6,VIRTUAL mtu 8252 index 1 inet6 ::1/128 # ifconfig nge0 down # ifconfig nge0 unplumb # ifconfig /dev/nge0 plumb ifconfig: cannot open link /dev/nge0: DLPI link does not exist # ifconfig nge0 plumb # ifconfig -a lo0: flags=2001000849UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4,VIRTUAL mtu 8232 index 1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff00 nge0: flags=201000842BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4,CoS mtu 1500 index 3 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0 ether 7a:a6:73:c6:1f:0 lo0: flags=2002000849UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv6,VIRTUAL mtu 8252 index 1 inet6 ::1/128 # ifconfig nge0 10.1.1.101 netmask 255.0.0.0 broadcast 10.255.255.255 up # # # ping 10.1.1.101 10.1.1.101 is alive # ping 10.1.1.1 no answer from 10.1.1.1 # # netstat -r Routing Table: IPv4 Destination Gateway Flags Ref Use Interface - - -- - default 10.1.1.1 UG1 0 arpanet dbsol-1 U 1 20 nge0 localhostlocalhostUH1377 lo0 Routing Table: IPv6 Destination/MaskGateway Flags Ref UseIf --- --- - --- --- - ::1 ::1 UH 1 21 lo0 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Also just for your further edification I also grabbed output from the files which I had already created. # tail -f /var/adm/messages Jun 20 19:20:09 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:20:11 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 20 19:20:51 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:20:53 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 20 19:21:33 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:21:35 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 20 19:22:15 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:22:19 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 20 19:23:37 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:23:38 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex After making changes Jun 20 19:27:51 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:27:55 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 20 19:28:39 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:28:41 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 20 19:29:21 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 20 19:29:23 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex ___ # cat /etc/netmasks 10.0.0.0255.0.0.0 --- # cat /etc/defaultrouter 10.1.1.1 --- # cat /etc/nsswitch.conf passwd: files group: files hosts: files ipnodes:files networks: files protocols: files rpc:files ethers: files netmasks: files bootparams: files publickey: files # At present there isn't a 'files' backend for netgroup; the system will # figure it out pretty quickly, and won't use netgroups at all. netgroup: files automount: files aliases:files services: files printers: user files auth_attr: files prof_attr: files project:files tnrhtp: files tnrhdb: files --- # cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 61.9.133.193 nameserver 61.9.134.49 domain home.net.au --- # cat /etc/hostname.nge0 10.1.1.101 --- # cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.1.1.101 dbsol-1 loghost This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Western Digital SATA drives and Pioneer Blu-ray SATA do not register in b90
I have sent you a copy of the outputs you asked for, there are no console outputs. I have attached cfgadm and prtconf outputs and sent you email directly for /var/adm/messages file as to large to paste. *** Does anyone know how to attach files, as when I try in this forum I get an error message saying I do not have permissions to edit cfgadm -la |grep sata sata0/0unknown connectedunconfigured unknown sata0/1::dsk/c2t1d0disk connectedconfigured ok sata0/2unknown connectedunconfigured unknown sata0/3unknown connectedunconfigured unknown sata0/4unknown connectedunconfigured unknown sata0/5::dsk/c2t5d0disk connectedconfigured ok __ *** note only 1 and 5 are recognised by opensolaris I have placed actual details below 0 is a Seagate ST332061 3AS 1 is a Seagate ST325062 4AS 2 is PIONEER BD-ROM BDC-202 CdRom Device Blu-Ray 3 is Western Digital WDC WD25 00KS-00MJB0 4 is Western Digital WDC WD25 00KS-00MJB0 5 is Seagate ST325062 4AS __ prtconf -vp System Configuration: Sun Microsystems i86pc Memory size: 4095 Megabytes System Peripherals (PROM Nodes): Node 0x01 bios-boot-device: '81' stdout: name: 'i86pc' Node 0x02 existing: 00d7c000..02a0f801. name: 'ramdisk' Node 0x03 bus-type: 'isa' device_type: 'isa' name: 'isa' Node 0x04 compatible: 'pciex_root_complex' device_type: 'pciex' reg: .. #size-cells: 0002 #address-cells: 0003 name: 'pci' Node 0x05 reg: .... compatible: 'pci10de,754.1043.82e7.a2' + 'pci10de,754.1043.82e7' + 'pci1043,82e7' + 'pci10de,754.a2' + 'pci10de,754' + 'pciclass,05' + 'pciclass,0500' model: 'Ram' power-consumption: 0001.0001 66mhz-capable: fast-back-to-back: devsel-speed: max-latency: min-grant: subsystem-vendor-id: 1043 subsystem-id: 82e7 unit-address: '0' class-code: 0005 revision-id: 00a2 vendor-id: 10de device-id: 0754 name: 'pci1043,82e7' Node 0x06 reg: 0800.... compatible: 'pci10de,75d.1043.82e7.a2' + 'pci10de,75d.1043.82e7' + 'pci1043,82e7' + 'pci10de,75d.a2' + 'pci10de,75d' + 'pciclass,060100' + 'pciclass,0601' model: 'ISA bridge' power-consumption: 0001.0001 66mhz-capable: fast-back-to-back: devsel-speed: max-latency: min-grant: subsystem-vendor-id: 1043 subsystem-id: 82e7 unit-address: '1' class-code: 00060100 revision-id: 00a2 vendor-id: 10de device-id: 075d name: 'pci1043,82e7' Node 0x07 assigned-addresses: 81000910..fc00..0040.81000920..1c00..0040.81000924..1c40..0040 reg: 0900.....01000910....0040.01000920....0040.01000924....0040 compatible: 'pci10de,752.1043.82e7.a1' + 'pci10de,752.1043.82e7' + 'pci1043,82e7' + 'pci10de,752.a1' + 'pci10de,752' + 'pciclass,0c0500' + 'pciclass,0c05' model: 'SMBus (System Management Bus)' power-consumption: 0001.0001 66mhz-capable: fast-back-to-back: devsel-speed: interrupts: 0001 max-latency: min-grant: subsystem-vendor-id: 1043 subsystem-id: 82e7 unit-address: '1,1' class-code: 000c0500 revision-id: 00a1 vendor-id: 10de device-id: 0752 name: 'pci1043,82e7' Node 0x08 reg: 0a00.... compatible: 'pci10de,751.1043.82e7.a1' + 'pci10de,751.1043.82e7' + 'pci1043,82e7' + 'pci10de,751.a1' + 'pci10de,751' + 'pciclass,05' + 'pciclass,0500' model: 'Ram' power-consumption: 0001.0001 66mhz-capable: fast-back-to-back: devsel-speed:
Re: [osol-discuss] Veritas volumes on Global zone, best way to present to the Local Zone
Veritas Volume manager only runs within the Global Zone, it is not supported within the local zones, as they share the global zone kernel. I just want to know if there was a preference when presenting volumes to the local zones, ufs versus lofs This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Lars noway thanks but that sounds like rubbish, and in fact I have hard reset and powered up directly prior. Come on, I do appreciate your enthusiam though. I am about to log a bug as suggested by several other sun engineers I have been in contact with. The nforce 780a has some differences that will need to be added to the O/S. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Veritas volumes on Global zone, best way to present to the Local Zone
I've been searching the web for some advice, but can't seem to find a definitive answer on this subject. Perhaps there's no real benefit either way. I have a Global zone with x5 local zones, each local zone has file-systems that need to be on SAN. We use VXvM to create the volumes and we need to present those to the local zones in the shape of a file system. Now we understand you can mount the volumes on the global zone and then present these to the local zones as a loopback fs (lofs), or we can just present the volumes to the local zones directly using a ufs mount. Is there a best practice ? we are using the ufs approach, but now sure if we'll encounter any issues. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
I have logged details as requested and details. Was unclear of where to attach files outputs of each command, so I added in section for additional info. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Sorry not yet the ID looks like 0760 for the device. I did a reboot -- -rfor a reconfigure but I get a panic and cant catch details happens to fast. But I also added two other items at the sametime so have removed this but still can't get reconfigure to run. But did get successfully get back into the os through normal boot, and now say nge is there but fails. I may do a re-install and try a reconfigure just by itself just to check, as the other items may have caused futher issues. will Keep posted. I have also included scanpci output with comments around devices I could identify through windows once captured the scanpci output. sorry about large output but I tried to attach files seperatly in this forum but unable to edit error cam up. ___pci bus 0x cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0754 nVidia Corporation Device unknown pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x075d nVidia Corporation Device unknown ## PCI standard ISA Bridge pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x01: vendor 0x10de device 0x0752 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ## nforce PCI System Management pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x02: vendor 0x10de device 0x0751 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI Ram Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x03: vendor 0x10de device 0x0753 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### Nforce System Management Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x04: vendor 0x10de device 0x0568 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI Ram controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x02 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x077b nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### OpenHCD USB host controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x02 function 0x01: vendor 0x10de device 0x077c nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI to USB Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x04 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x077d nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### OpenHCD USB host controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x04 function 0x01: vendor 0x10de device 0x077e nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI to USB Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x06 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0759 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### IDE Dual Channel Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x07 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0774 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### HD Audio controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x08 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x075a nVidia Corporation Device unknown pci bus 0x cardnum 0x09 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0ad4 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### Nforce Sata Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x0a function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0760 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ## 760 is the Nvidia Network Card. pci bus 0x cardnum 0x10 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0778 nVidia Corporation Device unknown pci bus 0x cardnum 0x13 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x077a nVidia Corporation Device unknown pci bus 0x cardnum 0x14 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x077a nVidia Corporation Device unknown pci bus 0x cardnum 0x18 function 0x00: vendor 0x1022 device 0x1200 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration pci bus 0x cardnum 0x18 function 0x01: vendor 0x1022 device 0x1201 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map pci bus 0x cardnum 0x18 function 0x02: vendor 0x1022 device 0x1202 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller pci bus 0x cardnum 0x18 function 0x03: vendor 0x1022 device 0x1203 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control pci bus 0x cardnum 0x18 function 0x04: vendor 0x1022 device 0x1204 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x0a function 0x00: vendor 0x11c1 device 0x5811 Agere Systems FW323 ### IEEE 1394 Host Controller pci bus 0x0002 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x05b1 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI to PCI Bridge pci bus 0x0003 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x05b1 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI to PCI Bridge pci bus 0x0003 cardnum 0x02 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x05b1 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ### PCI to PCI Bridge pci bus 0x0004 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0622 nVidia Corporation Device unknown ## NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT pci bus 0x0007 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x11ab device 0x6121 Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6121 SATA II Controller __- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Further to comments earlier I reinstalled and did a touch /reconfigure and changed only the driver_aliases for the nge interface. All starts OK but can't communicate out, and the interface in /var/adm/messages goes up and down see some extracts below. This card does work at 1000Mbs/Full Duplex when same pc boots into windows. Can ping myself, but no where else. There must be some differences here, let me know if there is anything else I can add or discover extract from messages file : Jun 19 14:40:48 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:40:50 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:41:30 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:41:32 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:42:17 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:42:19 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:43:02 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:43:04 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:43:44 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:43:46 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:44:26 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:44:29 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:45:13 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:45:17 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:46:00 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:46:02 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:46:42 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:46:45 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:47:25 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:47:29 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:48:09 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:48:11 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex Jun 19 14:48:51 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 486395 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link down Jun 19 14:48:53 dbsol-1 mac: [ID 435574 kern.info] NOTICE: nge0 link up, 1000 Mbps, full duplex This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Western Digital SATA drives and Pioneer Blu-ray SATA do not register in b90
I have 6 sata drives in machine and only 2 are being recognised by opensolaris. I am running the MBD in AHCI mode not ide. The two drives that are recognised within b90 are seagate drives. Has anyone had similar experiences, and workarounds ? maybe /etc/systems parameters etc etc. Also I am using a new ASUS M3N-HT deluxe MBD which many of the devices are not recoginised as yet. The pioneer drive Blu-ray also is not recognised This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
Thanks I will try that out This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Nvidia 780a drivers
I have recently purchased and ASUS M3N-HT MBD with a phenom 9850. The current version b90 does not seem 1) to recognize the network card. When will this be avalible does anyone know? 2) I am also having an issue with the SATA Blu-ray drive which does seem like bug id 6595488 will cover this. appreciate any help as will have to run windows for now which I hate. Was hoping to move everything into opensolaris and run everything else inside virtualbox 1.6.2 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [arc-discuss] Project planning and ARC/no-ARC integration (was was Alpine, now Exim...)
Mark Martin wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:21 PM, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Martin writes: ... It's never as simple as just doing ./configure and make. If it were, then there'd really be no point in having a repository at all, as *anybody* can do that. Sometimes it is that simple, and probably more oft not. I disagree, though, that even if package-get = ./configure make make install that *anybody* can do that. Honestly, even that bar is very high for some users. One of the first hurdle is ./configure --? (--prefix=/usr/local | /opt | /usr/sfw | ?). Linux converts might make it, but even Portage and Ports wrap a lot of that away and we don't have either. Honestly, though, it often *was* that simple for me and for my uses, and before I knew about SFE and the like, I built at least a dozen things with minimal effort and stuck them on boxes throughout my LAN (and I did this because either they were either nascent or non-existent on Blastwave). I never bothered to package anything though. FWIW, I agree with the above - often # ./configure make make install is all I need to do. What I find annoying is when you use some package system (blastwave, pkgsrc, etc) to build a package as they often insist that all of the dependencies must be present rather than some - which defeats the purpose of having ./configure. Darren ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] xntp interval
NTP adjusts the clock constantly. What changes is the poll intervals. Unless you override it, it will begin polling servers at 64 second intervals. If the clock is stable and the links to the remote clocks are good, it will raise the interval to a maximum of 1024 seconds between polls. -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] chroot environment and mknod in a zone
Yes, you can create devices in the non-global zone's filesystem from the global zone. -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 Update 5 CD1
's1' is a mount point for a separate UFS filesystem. I assume this is the SPARC CD? How are you accessing the CD? Are you mounting it on a SPARC machine, or are you using 'lofiadm' to mount the image? -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Long usernames greater than 8 chars
We use LDAP authentication on our fileserver, which allows usernames of greater than 8 chars. $ id -un chris.lintonford You don't need LDAP for that, /etc/passwd will give you the same ability. It does nothing to guarantee that utilities that use and display usernames (think 'ps') will do the right thing with names longer than 8 characters. -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: As an example, you might check for compare. This is a program I maintain since 1984 that is similar to cmp(1). I'm confused: Why not just submit patches to make cmp faster? Why the need for a functionally-similar (identical?) but new utility? Looks like you are missing the fact that cmp sources have not been available when compare has been created. Also note that the compare -a output is better readable than the one from cmp. I believe Paul was suggesting that you could *now* use the knowledge you gained in writing your compare(1) to improved the now available in source form cmp(1) ? As some other OpenSolaris contributor has already done. I personally think this would be possible even if it means a complete replacement of cmp(1) with your compare(1) - providing your compare is 100% compatible (modulo extensions). -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions
Joerg Schilling wrote: For this reason, compare is used on a dayly base, something that does not apply to e.g. imagemagic. Depends on the usage of the system. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe Paul was suggesting that you could *now* use the knowledge you gained in writing your compare(1) to improved the now available in source form cmp(1) ? As some other OpenSolaris contributor has already done. I personally think this would be possible even if it means a complete replacement of cmp(1) with your compare(1) - providing your compare is 100% compatible (modulo extensions). Once it has been verified that it is possible to contribute to OpenSolaris Lots of people have, even your fellow country men. You produce the diffs and ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help. If you don't do the later part it will never happen. I am happy to do so but please note that: - The better readable output from compare is not compatible with the POSIX cmp definition - One reason why compare is faster is that it by default does not count lines wich is also not compatible with the POSIX cmp definition although nobody usually needs this feature. Hmn that could be a problem but we could resolve that by having /usr/xpg?/bin/cmp. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Nicolas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:56:49PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Or you could rename your compare to something else that conflicts neither with the existing cmp(1) nor the new compare(1) (yes, it came in before yours and now you're not happy; c'est la vie). ecmp, fcmp, ... four letters long is better than seven -- less typing. If someone starts to use a name that has been in use since 20 years before, this entity needs to change the name to something that does not conflict. It happened. Oh well. Now you might want to finish the task of integrating star before someone appropriates that command name for something else... :/ This does not depend on me as I am ready and waiting sice quite some time. Please point to the message in the opensolaris.org mailman archives where you requested a sponsor to integrate star. I would have expected to see this on request-sponsor@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anything you did before OpenSolaris existed is no longer relevant, OpenSolaris changed the world. And yes, a registry that all Linux/*BSDs/OpenSolaris distros/c-teams could use would be cool. You find one at Sourceforge.net, one at freshmeat.net and one at developers.berlios.de/sourcewell.berlios.de and a smaller one at savannah.org It obviously doesn't work then because freshmeat.net lists both star and ImageMagic. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Limitation for LOGIN ID by useradd
Flexscan wrote: Hi all, Anyone knows the limitation for LOGIN ID while creating users by USERADD command in Solaris? Yes and it is clearly documented in the useradd that you should read the passwd(4) man page: useradd requires that usernames be in the format described in passwd(4). A warning message is displayed if these res- trictions are not met. See passwd(4) for the requirements for usernames. passwd(4) says: username is the user's login name. The login (login) and role (role) fields accept a string of no more than eight bytes consisting of characters from the set of alphabetic characters, numeric characters, period (.), underscore (_), and hyphen (-). The first character should be alphabetic and the field should contain at least one lower case alphabetic character. A warning message is displayed if these restrictions are not met. The login and role fields must contain at least one character and must not contain a colon (:) or a newline (\n). For support of longer the 8 char usernames see http://opensolaris.org/os/community/security/library/long_usernames/ -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] svc:/network/samba vs. svc:/network/smb/server
Mark wrote: Can someone explain the difference between these two? Yes. network/samba is the userland Samba server. network/smb/server is the OpenSolaris specific in kernel CIFS server, more info on which can be found at http://opensolaris.org/os/project/cifs-server/ -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions
Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When it comes to generic names (which unfortunately ImageMagick is full of) I personally would prefer that it wasn't allowed unless they were really generic. However UNIX is full of stuff like this already cancel,accept etc. It is very important for adoption of OpenSolaris distributions that in some cases when OpenSolaris imports external technology that we do so in the most appropriate way, in the ImageMagick case that means not changing the default program names. So how did these names make it into /usr/bin/? The third sentence in that quoted paragraph is the reason. Note that I said I personally not The ARC requires. It usually helps to avoid problems if things are planned instead of just let them pile up. I personally don't see an problem with this particular instance. I also see no generic issue here just your personal crusade, against any program name you happen to have picked. In this particular instance your choice of a generic english word for a specific comparison technology is just as much at fault as ImageMagick. That fact that you believe yours predates theirs really doesn't matter. What does mater for OpenSolaris is that the ImageMagick case followed the appropriate process and has integrated. BTW: I am still waiting for a reply that signalls the will for cooperation. Cooperation would mean that both upstream projects yours and ImageMagick agreed to a change. OpenSolaris is just the messenger here. If you want cooperation you need to be willing to compromise otherwise there is no cooperation only Joerg dictate. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions
Joerg Schilling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this reason, the compare from imagemagick either needs to be renamed or it needs to be put into a different directory. Your compare command gives a name clash with ImageMagick's compare command; why don't you rename yours? Looks like you are unwilling to cooperate! Why should I rename that exists in the public for a long time just because some uncooperative people reused the name? In order to compromise and to move forward. Otherwise you just look demanding, unwilling to make any change and difficult to work with so people will eventually just start ignoring you. If that is the stance you want to take that is your choice but don't expect others to change if you aren't willing to. Oldest provable use isn't what matters, sometimes most popular elsewhere is what is most important and sometimes it isn't. Sometimes it is just first past the post is what wins and in this case ImageMagick one. When it comes to generic names (which unfortunately ImageMagick is full of) I personally would prefer that it wasn't allowed unless they were really generic. However UNIX is full of stuff like this already cancel,accept etc. It is very important for adoption of OpenSolaris distributions that in some cases when OpenSolaris imports external technology that we do so in the most appropriate way, in the ImageMagick case that means not changing the default program names. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to avoid several access restricted files from indexing
yeshanth wrote: I am trying to index a source code tree and there are several files that are access restricted. So as a result, I get the indexing to stop with Exceptions(Access is Denied). I tried using the -i option and it does work. But the same option is tedious if I have around 65 files that I need to omit with -i option. Is there any option/way that I can use/approach that would help me skip these access is denied from getting indexed?? Any help is appreciated. The -i option to what ? What are you indexing with and why is this relevant to OpenSolaris ? -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana review
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: The one problem I have with either /root or root as a role is what there is in the way of recovery options (on SPARC too eventually!) under very degraded conditions in the absence of being able to log in to the console directly as root. There needs to be something - preferably not _requiring_ a reboot, and certainly not involving a reboot off of removable media like CD/DVD. I don't see how changing root's home dir from / on the root filesystem to /root on the root filesystem changes that. sulogin will still allow root to login on the console even when root is a role. If you wish to allow root to login directly on the console but not directly by any other means - and you are happy with your console security - then add the following line to /etc/pam.conf login account requiredpam_unix_account.so.1 Normally login would be using the 'other' stack which is: other account requisite pam_roles.so.1 other account requiredpam_unix_account.so.1 The absence of pam_roles.so.1 is what will allow console access when root is a role. NOTE that this will allow root on ANY direct attached tty not just /dev/console. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Logging Telnet Sessions
Rob Sandifer wrote: I am trying to find the following information regarding the logging of telnet sessions within a Solaris 10 environment: (1) How can I tell if the logging of telnet sessions is enabled on a Solaris 10 machine? (2) Assuming that the logging of telnet sessions is not enabled, what is the procedure of enabling the logging of a telnet session? I have alread Googled these questions, but could not find any satisfactory answers. Any and all constructive replies will be appreciated. Thanks! What does logging mean in this context ? Audit records for all login/logout events ? Audit records for all commands run during a session ? Audit records for all syscalls made ? Keystroke logging ? Something else ? BTW since this is likely security releated [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the more appropriate place. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Logging Telnet Sessions
Rob Sandifer wrote: Thanks for the heads-up on the security-discuss group! To answer your question, I am interested in logging telnet logon/authentication events. Thanks! Using Solaris Auditing to log detailed information about all logins: Turn on Solaris Auditing using /etc/security/bsmconv If you are only interested in login data then specify only the class `lo` on the flags: line of /etc/security/audit_control. An example successful event for a remote login to a machine braveheart from a machine called hepcat: | header,81,2,login - rlogin,,Wed Aug 27 09:46:53 1997, + 511485295 msec | subject,darrenm,darrenm,techies,darrenm,techies,10100,10100,24 5 hepcat | text,successful login An example failed login event when comming in via ftp from netwon: | header,77,2,ftp access,,Wed Sep 03 16:56:30 1997, + 712178483 msec | subject,darrenm,darrenm,techies,darrenm,techies,1200,1200,0 20 newton | text,bad password | return,failure,1 Simialar records are generated for local logins, telnet, rlogin, rsh, rexec, and ftp, ssh, scp, sftp To find all of the login events for user darrenm in December 1997: # auditreduce -a 19971201 -b +31d -u darrenm -c lo | praudit If you only wish to log the failed events then specify -lo eg. flags: -lo Note: Solaris Auditing is not resticted to information about logins, for more information see the Solaris Auditing section in docs.sun.com and read the following manual pages: audit_control(4), auditreduce(1M), praudit(1M), auditd(1M), bsmconv(1M) See http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4557/auditplan-6?a=view -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] New passwd switch?
Mark Drummond wrote: On 26/11/2007, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Reply-To set to security-discuss, please respect and do NOT cross post] Mark Drummond wrote: How difficult would it be to add a switch to passwd which allows a privileged user to select the password hashing scheme? Pretty easy, and in fact I have it prototyped (I did the work about 2 or 3 years ago) by using a new user_attr(4) key=value pair. Thanks Darren. I suppose this is a bit of a corner case. I'm looking for a feature to deal with one poorly behaved app. Better that IBM fix DB2 (and it might well be fixed in DB2 9 or even a V8 fixpack), but the flexibility in passwd or usermod would be nice. You have a specific case to work around a problem but you are perfectly correct that the flexibility is needed anyway. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] LDAP authentication w/ OpenLDAP server on Linux
Howard Tsai wrote: Hi, I installed OpenSolaris w/ Crossbow snapshot (snv_61-xb_15) on an x86 machine and would like to setup LDAP to authenticate ssh logins. The LDAP server is OpenLDAP on a Linux box. I init LDAP client with the following cmd: ldapclient manual \ -a defaultSearchBase=dc=some,dc=edu \ -a defaultServerList=10.0.0.1 \ -a serviceSearchDescriptor=passwd:ou=Users,dc=some,dc=edu \ -a serviceSearchDescriptor=group:ou=Groups,dc=some,dc=edu \ -a serviceAuthenticationMethod=pam_ldap:simple and modified pam.conf by changing required into binding, adding server_policy, and adding pam_ldap lines. While I can see user info by issuing ldaplist passwd username, users have even no chance to type in passwords when logging in via ssh. What could be wrong? Are you actually using keyboard-interactive or password SSH UserAuth methods ? Or do you have pubkey or gss-api (ie have kerberos tickets) setup ? -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] LDAP authentication w/ OpenLDAP server on Linux
Howard Tsai wrote: On Nov 26, 2007 5:50 AM, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howard Tsai wrote: Hi, I installed OpenSolaris w/ Crossbow snapshot (snv_61-xb_15) on an x86 machine and would like to setup LDAP to authenticate ssh logins. The LDAP server is OpenLDAP on a Linux box. I init LDAP client with the following cmd: ldapclient manual \ -a defaultSearchBase=dc=some,dc=edu \ -a defaultServerList=10.0.0.1 \ -a serviceSearchDescriptor=passwd:ou=Users,dc=some,dc=edu \ -a serviceSearchDescriptor=group:ou=Groups,dc=some,dc=edu \ -a serviceAuthenticationMethod=pam_ldap:simple and modified pam.conf by changing required into binding, adding server_policy, and adding pam_ldap lines. While I can see user info by issuing ldaplist passwd username, users have even no chance to type in passwords when logging in via ssh. What could be wrong? Are you actually using keyboard-interactive or password SSH UserAuth methods ? Or do you have pubkey or gss-api (ie have kerberos tickets) setup ? Yes, I would like to login with a password (clear text password via encrypted tunnel). We don't have kerberos infrastructure here. Do you have pubkey setup ? ie do you have a ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file on the client and a ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the server ? What does ssh -v say you are using as the user authentication method ? -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] New passwd switch?
[Reply-To set to security-discuss, please respect and do NOT cross post] Mark Drummond wrote: How difficult would it be to add a switch to passwd which allows a privileged user to select the password hashing scheme? Pretty easy, and in fact I have it prototyped (I did the work about 2 or 3 years ago) by using a new user_attr(4) key=value pair. Users who need to access DB2 (at least, DB2 V8) must have their passwords stored with CRYPT. Or at least, whatever DB2 we are running Seems like it must have a statically compiled in version of crypt(3C) in that case. This might be able to be fixed with some linker magic. here where I work gets tripped up by anything other than crypt. Storing such a users password in md5 causes their DB2 authentication to fail. As far as I can tell, the only way to get that users password into crypt format is: 1. Make CRYPT the default in policy.conf. 2. Manually delete the users password from /etc/shadow. 3. Set the users password. 4. Now you can set the default back to md5, blowfish, etc. Step 2 is required because passwd will always use whatever hashing algorithm was last used for that password, regardless of any policy.conf settings. Not quite true, if the last algorithm is NOT on CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_ALLOW (or is on CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_DEPRECATE) and is NOT the default then it won't be used. Having a switch so I can passwd -z md5 user1 and passwd -z crypt user2 would be great, especially if it we transparent to the actual user account repository (e.g. passwd -z ssha would work with LDAP). Of usermod -K crypt_alg=md5 user1 Where the values are the algorithm names from /etc/security/crypt.conf The problem at the time when I did this was changing smc(1M) GUI to have an equivalent. The Sun policy at the time (which still stands for Solaris) is such that that work would still likely be required. Updating libc/libsecdb and usermod is pretty easy. The other thing I encountered at the time was that this makes libc depend on libsecdb which means libsecdb should maybe be rolled into libc. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Starter Kit DVD (2 Discs)
UNIX admin wrote: My target machine is currently running SunOS 5.7 and CDE 1.3. But I want to get rid of all that and start with a fresh new install of the latest version of Solaris that will run on this machine. Latest revision of Solaris is Solaris 10 8/07 aka update 4 (u4), not OpenSolaris. Not quite true. There is Solaris Express Developer Edition (SX:DE) and Solaris Express Community Edition (SX:CE). Those are Solaris and are based on OpenSolaris (but with additional non open components). The latest version of Solaris 10 is 8/07, but Solaris 10 isn't the only train. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NIS+ days numbered? is it in OpenSolaris?
Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi all, I see notices in the Solaris 10 Docs that NIS+ may not be available in the future. Has a date been set for it's demise? No, if there was there would be an ARC case visible from the ARC community saying what that date (release really) was. Has the source for it been released to OpenSolaris? so the community can continue maintaining it if desired? Yes, but note that it isn't an easy extractable part but the code is there (all over the place in fact, bits in nsswtich, libnsl, the daemons and commands themselves). -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] lofi questions?
Kyle McDonald wrote: How does one go about increasing the number of filesystem types 'mount' understands? /usr/sbin/mount is really more of a wrapper program. The heavy lifting is done by /usr/lib/fs/fstype/mount. So if you create a 'uberfs' filesystem, you might want a /usr/lib/fs/uberfs/mount program to mount it. -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] lofi questions?
Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi, I recently read that the option for compression on loopback devices was put back recently. This is good news. Where to look for more info? like: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/loficc/ and for the approved specification: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2007/569/ specifically: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2007/569/materials/spec-final/ What compression types are supported? I'm specifically hoping to use it on compressed .iso files. In the PC world there are several utilities that work (burn, mount, create, etc.) .isz files which are compressed ISO's. I once tried to uncompress one with gzip hwoever and it didn't like it so I'm not sure what compression is used in a .isz. Anyone know? Can I use the same .isz on both types of systems? Nope this compression is OpenSolaris lofi specific. Lastly, most of the ISO's I'll be mounting will be Solaris DVD images. Currently I keep the .iso, and then mount it, and run 'setup_install_server' to copy it to disk for Jumpstarts. If I were to only keep the (compressed) .iso file, and permanently lofi mount it where I would normally copy it to, is that enough for Jumpstart? Yes. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot get RSA webagent to work under Solaris 10 08/07
Philip wrote: Neither the Sun Java web server version nor the Apache version of RSA's web agent client (5.3) seems to work under Solaris 10 08/07. Both versions 5.2 and 5.3 of the Sun Java web server RSA webagent work on a pre-08/07 kernel, however. Under 08/07, both agents work from the command line (acetest), but both fail at the web layer. The Apache version will authenticate, but then dies with a message like [notice] child pid 477 exit signal Bus error (10) in the Apache error log. The Sun Java web server version 5.3 will not authenticate at all, getting node verification errors, even though a command line RSA login works fine (indicating that the node secret and sdconf.rec are working properly). Version 5.2 for the Java web server sometimes (but not always) gets errors like these when someone successfully authenticates: Since this is a question about Solaris 10, non open sourced Sun unbundled software and 3rd party authentication agents this really isn't the correct forum. mod_rsa_webagent reports: Authentication succeeded User: catastrophe ( 3033): Server crash detected (signal SIGBUS) info ( 3033): Crash occurred in NSAPI SAF mod_rsawa_service_auth info ( 3033): Crash occurred in function SHA1Final from module /platform/sun4u/lib/libmd_psr.so.1 failure ( 569): Child process admin thread is shutting down Applying kernel patch 120011-14 breaks RSA web authentication, no matter what we do; and I don't know what changed. Any help would be appreciated! However this looks familiar to me. I've looked a problem just recently related to applying that patch causing core dumps in the RSA PAM module for secuird causing /bin/login and sshd to die - the core only has RSA code in the stack though. I'd strongly suggest logging a case with SunService AND with RSA. I have a feeling (but no evidence) that there is an issue with symbol scoping in the RSA code that is tickled by libmd and libmd_psr (again no evidence just a gut feeling). -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Password formats...
Kyle McDonald wrote: Hi all. I just setup a new NIS server on NV. Then I pasted all the passwd and shadow entries from one of the local linux boxes on the end of yp source files. It just hit me though. The linux box was storing the encrypted passwords in a newer format (I beleive so that it can handle longer passwords) Nit: They aren't Linux format passwords the $1$ MD5 based hashes came from FreeBSD (as does the source I used in Solaris to support them). See also PSARC/2007/642 in the ARC community which I filed only this week to support the new SHA256/SHA512 based format that Red Hat, IBM, HP, and Sun developed and have agreed to support ($5 and $6). -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Using SPARC formated disks on X86?
Jim Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only two Solaris file systems that are endian-neutral are ISO 9660 (High Sierra), which is read-only, and of course ZFS. Personally I wouldn't say that ZFS isn endian-neutral but endian aware (or adaptive). Writes are done in the local endianness but the on disk format and code is ware of this when reading and does the appropriate swaps. So a pool written in big endian then take to a little endian machine and written more will gradually migrate to little endian over time. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Password formats...
Kyle McDonald wrote: If possible, I'd like someone to confirm what I think I've proved by my experiments: 1. The default Solaris config will compare the password entered with the encrypted version in the shadow file using what ever crypt method *the existing password* was encrypted with? Correct. 2. The default Solaris config will store changed passwords with the same type of encryption that the old password used? Providing that it is on the CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_ALLOW list or not on the CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_DEPRECATE list (only one of which can be in use). If it is not on allow or is on deprecate then the algorithm listed in CRYPT_DEFAULT will be used instead. So by default my passwd file can have all sorts of different types of encryption, and it will stay that way? It can and it may depending on the above. Is there a way to force changed passwords to be stored in a newer format as people change them? Yes. Set the policy you want for CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_ALLOW or CRYPT_ALGORITHMS_DEPRECATE and set CRYPT_DEFAULT to be what you want the hashes to move to. Then expire their password using 'passwd -f'. I read through the man pages on crypt.conf and policy.conf and it seems I can disallow use of some methods, and/or change the default method, but if both 1 and 2 above are true, I don't think that will force changed passwords to the new default? will it? It will because 1 was true and you didn't quite have all the details correct on 2. See docs.sun.com: Solaris Express System Administrator Collection System Administration Guide: Security Services System, File, and Device Security 2. Managing Machine Security (Overview) Controlling Access to a Computer System http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-3321/6n5i4b73k?a=view#concept-28 For worked examples. Or if you prefer check the code I wrote to implement it: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/libc/port/gen/crypt.c The policy part is in crypt_gensalt(), crypt() just uses which ever algorithm is passed in. crypt_gensalt() is only used during password change. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it
Joerg Schilling wrote: John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're aiming for simplicity. Manually setting $PATH and $SHELL is not simplicity. Forcing everyone to use the GNUserland isn't either. An dialog box somewhere in the 'advanced' install path I think, is. I would prefer to see an automated MANPATH. In case that MANPATH is _empty_, ii should be following the PATH order. This is already being discussed[1] in opensolaris-code with a similar proposal. However note that it isn't just stuff in $PATH that has interesting man pages, config files libraries etc need to be found too so a purely based on $PATH use of $MANPATH may not be sufficient. Please continue this subthread on opensolaris-code. [1] http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-code/2007-November/006390.html -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Using SPARC formated disks on X86?
Kyle McDonald wrote: andrewk9 wrote: Assuming your disk has UFS partitions on it then no, you can't do that. UFS was not designed to be movable between architectures. The main reason you cannot do this is that the on-disk formats are incompatible by default due to x86 processors being little-endian, and Solaris running SPARC CPUs in big-endian mode. I knew it wouldn't be easy. I just thought there might be a compatibility mode where the driver or fs did the endian translation. Thanks for the info... I'm off to track down a SPARC machine. Does NV support Sun4c? lol sun4, sun4c, sun4d, sun4m are not supported in Nevada, as are UltraSPARC I processors less than 170Mhz. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The compiler isn't a big issue for me, but the contents of closed/ and SUNWonbld definitely are; for one our codebase is somewhat of a lame horse without them and for two it's a PITA to have to check for new versions before building anything. I'm not sure why SUNWonbld is different than the compiler (or is it because they are not available under usr/src/tools where all tools live? (Or is it about elfsign and cscope-fast?) elfsign is open now but it both a build tool and something we ship so it gets build in usr/src/tools and in usr/src/cmd/cmd-crypto/ -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Very long boot time when no network available
Joerg Schilling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I encounter a significant raise of time when I boot Solaris without network connection. It seems that the initialization of the network device runs in a time out when no network cable is plugged in. Maybe it would be possible to find that time out setting and set it to a lower value? Great if someone could help. Thanks in advance. svcadm disable network/physical:default svcadm enable network/physical:nwam should fix this for most systems Is there a documentation for this? Yes and even pointed to in the services: $ svcs -x nwam svc:/network/physical:nwam (physical network interface autoconfiguration) State: disabled since Tue Oct 16 02:24:52 2007 Reason: Disabled by an administrator. See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-05 See: nwamd(1M) See: http://opensolaris.org/os/projects/nwam/ See: http://opensolaris.org/os/projects/nwam/phase0/ Impact: This service is not running. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] /export/home vs. /home
Claus Guttesen wrote: If I remember correctly, as long as automounter is running an entry in /etc/auto_home (before +auto_home) like * localhost:/export/home/ should do the trick. Thank you for yor reply. I added the entry to /etc/auto_home but it did not do the trick unfortunately. /etc/auto_home looks like this: +auto_home * localhost:/export/home/ I also switched those two entries, and rebooted each time. I'm running opensolaris b70b. Did you restart the automounter ? svcadm restart autofs -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] /export/home vs. /home
Hi Claus, you have the nobrowse option to /home - which means ls /home will give nothing (i.e. you can't browse it) - you probably need to try /home/claus or /home/kilaasi to see anything in /home. HTH, Darren. Claus Guttesen wrote: Did you restart the automounter ? svcadm restart autofs Just tried but unfortunately it did not help. rozetta~#svcadm restart autofs rozetta~#ls -l /home total 0 rozetta~#ls -l /export/home total 20 drwxr-x--- 6 clausstaff512 Oct 10 16:24 claus drwxr-xr-x 16 kilaasi staff 1024 Oct 10 16:41 kilaasi drwx-- 2 root root8192 Oct 4 10:58 lost+found /etc/auto_master: +auto_master /net-hosts -nosuid,nobrowse /home auto_home -nobrowse /etc/auto_home: +auto_home kilaasi 127.0.0.1:/export/home/kilaasi claus 127.0.0.1:/export/home/claus ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] doubt regarding GRUB and /boot
vineet kumar wrote: Hi, When I installed Open Solaris (X86 platform) i created a separate /boot partition. Why did you do that ? What perceived problem were you trying to solve ? What documentation for OpenSolaris/Solaris lead you to wanting to do that ? -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Reflections from the GSoC Mentor's summit
On Saturday, I walked over to the googleplex to attend the Google Summer of Code mentor summit. This is for all of the mentors from GSoC projects to get together and reflect on what worked, what didn't work, etc. Most of the sessions were people talking about what they worked on (which wasn't that interesting) but the standout was the security software session, led by the author of nmap. Some of the highlights in hearing about how other projects got involved with students: - GSoC led to the students becoming more involed with the projects by doing support (bug fixing, answering questions) after their GSoC project was completed and integrated; - some students have come back in successive years, building familiarity with the project, code, and becoming more of a regular contributor; - effort is required to weed out bad submitters but even when you think you've done this successfully, things can still turn out bad; - students will put participation in GSoC (for good or bad) on their resume. While I'm not sure what will be happening next year, it is likely to run again. This year I believe there were 6 to 8 submissions for GSoC projects on OpenSolaris, of which 4 were accepted. Next year we, opensolaris, should be thinking about how we can drive greater interest through GSoC, get more submissions and hopefully increase the number of acceptances to 6-8. Cheers, Darren ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Connecting to the Internet using Modem
vineet kumar wrote: Hi, I am using my Sony K790i GSM phone as a modem to connect to the Internet on Linux and Windows. How do I do it on Solaris. http://opensolaris.org/os/project/wwan/ And how do I connect to Wi-Fi in Solaris? svcadm disable svc:/network/physical:default svcadm enable svc:/network/physical:nwam It it will be auto-magic assuming your hardware is supported. BTW you didn't say which Solaris release so I'm assuming a recent Solaris Express (Developer or Community Edition) build. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Porting OpenSolaris To OLPC XO AMD Geode Laptops
a b wrote: GNOME is bloat to those who don't use it. Could've been statically linked in. Yikes! Are you suggesting static linking of GNOME libraries into every application!! No. I am suggesting that the GNOME-dependent installer be statically linked, so as to reduce the unbelievable half a gigabyte requirement to install Solaris to something reasonable, like a couple of megs. That wouldn't actually help. In fact it makes it WORSE not better, static linking in the general case decreases sharing, increases binary sizes makes patching more complex and increases memory requirements not decreases it. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Porting OpenSolaris To OLPC XO AMD Geode Laptops
Brandorr wrote: Not happening. You only have 1G of storage. Solaris would need some serious trimming to fit. (And maybe compression). With 256M of RAM it would be crazy.. Here Linux really is the best choice. (The eee on the other hand, might be doable). Even with the default Solaris Express installer you can install a minimal installation in less then 200M of disk space. That is without triming the kernel to only 32 or 64 bit bins as needed. Why should Linux be any better here ? If a Linux kernel based system was built for OLPC it would be a custom distro with a custom kernel built - at least initially. Exactly the same could be done for OpenSolaris. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] GPL drivers
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 16:48 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: Right, and one would think that a kernel and its components are usually part of the OS :) Solaris provides a documented and generally stable in-kernel ABI, the DDI, to permit 3rd party device drivers not part of the OS distribution to be developed and distributed independently in binary form. While they execute within the kernel address space, solaris drivers written to the DDI can be thought of (from an engineering standpoint, at least), as independent programs. I've already seen GPLv2 network drivers for Solaris somewhere, but I can't remember where off the top of my head. However I don't believe these were a port from a Linux driver but a write from scratch. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Small experiment with twitter.com and /var/adm/messages ...
UNIX admin wrote: Based on Glynn Foster's IRC request I hacked-up a small experiment/toy (see attached script shtwitter.ksh, the file needs Solaris 11 = B72 since it depends on the networking capabilities of the new korn shell) which allows to post messages to a twitter.com blog. ... Does anyone have better ideas how such a thing could be utilised (maybe to monitor SMF state changes ?) ? What I had been thinking of (but didn't get to as of yet), is generating traps on certain content in /var/adm/messages, which would end up as an SMS on my mobile phone. But I've no idea how to build an SMS gateway, or which software to use. Do I need special hardware (a GSM modem of some sort)? No idea. Let twitter.com be the SMS gateway for you. What you would do is set it twitter to send you SMS messages for those that you follow. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Small experiment with twitter.com and /var/adm/messages ...
UNIX admin wrote: It should be possible by attaching a mobile phone to the system (via either USB or serial connection) and using something like http:// www.gnokii.org/ Hmmm, but the only thing my mobile phone has is the charger connector and audio out for a mic/headphone. So I guess I'd have to get a new phone for this. Do you know which phones are suitable for the ugen(7D) driver in Solaris? I presume there are no 3rd party Solaris USB drivers for mobile phones. Better than ugen is proper modem support: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/wwan/ Already included in SUNWuacm in recent Solaris Express builds. From the man page: The usbsacm driver is a loadable STREAMS and USBA (Solaris USB architecture)-compliant client driver that provides basic asynchronous communication support for USB modems and ISDN terminal adapters that conform to the Universal Serial Bus Communication Device Class Abstract Control Model (USB CDC ACM) specification. You can download the USB CDC specif- ication from the USB website at http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/usbcdc11.pdf. Supported devices include mobile phones and PCMCIA cards which provide modem function by the usb cable. Serial device streams are built with appropriate modules that are pushed atop the usbsacm driver by the autopush(1M) facility. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] The next really really big thing. Was OT: Sun joins the dark side :-D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giles Turner wrote: By the way, these devices will be designed and built in the People's Republic of China. Sooner than you and I can possibly imagine. So get rolling, because time is short. Please, anywhere but China. I will take Taiwan but not China. Man, they do not understand quality control. My dad visits factories there and he is just frustrated that he cannot teach his fellow countrymen that quality IS important. He would point out poorly made stuff and put them in a reject bin but the minute he turns his back they put them back. Hi, I think this is a gross generalization. I have been going to China fairly frequently over the past 4 years, and the people I meet there are concerned about quality. They learn fast from mistakes, and if it is explained to them, they understand quality issues and take aciton. I think this is especially true with respect to high tech. China wants to compete on a global scale, and that means more than mass production of clothing, or rubber bands, or most of the other Made in China things you can buy pretty much anywhere in the rest of the world. I think people in China know that if they want to compete with more intricate, higher margin products, they need to have quality control. I'm curious, what kind of factories is your father visiting, where are they, and what do they produce? Not on this please please, this has nothing what so ever to do with OpenSolaris. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Sun joins the dark side :-D
UNIX admin wrote: And regarding the publicity stunts, have you noticed the distinct lack of them lately? Instead, we have solid deals with Intel, MS, and IBM. The only *concrete* thing thing that I noticed so far, was the code contribution made from the intel OpenSolaris team. I haven't seen anything concrete from IBM yet. Or Microsoft for that matter. I don't think you should be expecting direct code contribution into OpenSolaris from either IBM or Microsoft. In the particular case of Microsoft OpenSolaris has gained a lot from this but it maybe isn't obvious. There are several projects like Winchester, Sparks, Reno specifically targeting making OpenSolaris interoperate better in a Windows world of Active Directory. http://opensolaris.org/os/project/winchester/ http://opensolaris.org/os/project/sparks/ http://opensolaris.org/os/project/reno/ Also a lot of interop work with the core Kerberos has been done too: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/security/projects/kerberos/ there is more and this is just the tip of the iceberg. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Sun joins the dark side :-D
Giles Turner wrote: On 9/13/07, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giles Turner wrote: Nice. I hear Solaris 11 is coming out early next year. You need to get a better source of info. That was straight from a local Sun CDP Sales Manager, Partner Sales Organization, Global Sales Services guy. Since the engineering organisations don't know if the next release is Solaris 11 or when it is going to be released I'm afraid to say your sales person is talking out of turn. For Solaris (NOT OpenSolaris) it is up to the Solaris PAC to choose when Solaris 11 comes out and that decision hasn't been made yet. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [Rant] Why does the Download Center not work?
I haven't used it today (so I don't know if the server's wonky), but I always just use 'wget' to pull down the images. Scriptable, automatic retries on connection drops, plus I can interrupt it and have it pick up from that point later. -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Device name mapping in regards to IDE/SATA adapters?
Are there links for all those numbers in /dev/cfg? What are they? -- Darren This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: Re: snv_70 odd behavior]
Joerg Schilling wrote: The goal for this project is to create a wrapper to create a static speudo environment for the ON compilation. Note that the ON makefile system is static and single platform while the Schily makefilesystem is dynamic ant platform independent. As ON makefiles allow to run something like rpcgen, it is possible to hide the dynamic stuff here. Once star is in, it would be a task of minutes to integrate more from the schily enviroment. I think you are making it harder for yourself by targeting ON. Given that you have a known working stable build environment SFW is probably a better choice. The only something should be in ON are usually: 1) it exposes a private interface to other things in ON 2) the ON build depends its source - not binaries (ON already depends on binaries from SFW and other consolidations to build) 3) it depends on a consolidation or project private interface in ON and an ARC contract isn't a suitable way to coordinate because of the complexity of a cross consolidation flag day. Replacement of something currently in ON isn't necessarily a reason. For example replacement of tar by star doesn't imply that start needs to be in ON just because tar was (unless one or more of the above also apply). -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Star Office/Open Office locks up during a Save As on a smb mount
Mike Lehman wrote: I am running Nevada build 64 and every time I open a document from a samba mount with either Star Office 8 or Open Office 2.2 and perform a Save As it becomes unresponsive and I have to force quit the application. I can click on the save button and it works just fine. I can create files and folders on this share, but every time I run the Save As option it makes the application unresponsive. How did you do the mount ? Solaris doesn't have smbfs in build 64. Do you mean that you used Nautilus (the GNOME file manager) to browse to the folder ? If so I'm not really susprised that StarOffice doesn't work that well since that isn't a real filesystem but an illusion of one that only really exists in GNOME (which StarOffice isn't part of) applications aware of gnome-vfs. Try copying the file locally and saving it back to the samba server. Or try the recently announced alpha 2 smbfs bits from here: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/smbfs/ -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] one login at a time for each user?
Omer Faruk Sen wrote: Hi, Is it possible to limit users to login just one at a time? I mean user X can login from anywhere (ssh,telnet,X) but when he is logged in any other attempt to login with the username X is prohibited and maybe printed out a message like This user is already logged in? Yes it is, see my blog entry on this topic that I wrote the last time this question came up here (I don't expect you to have been able to find anything in the mail archives of this list given that the subject so often has not indication of the topic under discussion!): http://blogs.sun.com/darren/entry/limiting_users_to_one_login -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] one login at a time for each user?
UNIX admin wrote: Not that I know of. But this goes against the very principles on which UNIX was built, namely, an OS which can be used by different people, working on physical and virtual terminals, all at the same time. I disagree, it goes very much with the resource management principles of a multi user timesharing system that UNIX is. Thanks to the advanced resource management tools on OpenSolaris this is actually possible: http://blogs.sun.com/darren/entry/limiting_users_to_one_login Why would you even want to do something like that??? A user can't be in two or more physical places at one time, depending on the environment having them logged in at multiple desktops units (workstation, xterminal, Sun Ray DTU etc) could be considered a security issue. You need a single user OS, non-UNIX OS for that. Windows, AmigaOS, older MacOS and the like would be good candidates. I didn't take it that a single user OS was being asked for. Instead that a multi user system be able to be configured so that a given user can login once and only once on a given machine. Doing it network wide is harder - and in many cases better solved by using Sun Ray - but possible (though not with the solution I outlined in my blog: http://blogs.sun.com/darren/entry/limiting_users_to_one_login). -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What about SIGs for OpenSolaris?
Brandorr wrote: On 8/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a SIG? Special Interest Group. Why should we consider SIGs for OpenSolaris? At present the only level of abstraction that we have in the OpenSolaris community is that of communities. We have communities for high level concepts (networking) and for very specific products (zfs) as well as groups of people (sysadmin). ... What I would like for people to consider is to allow the idea of SIGs to form within communities. Why should a SIG form within a community rather than be a community in its own right? Size. I see SIGs as being composed of a smaller subset of people. For example, an approriate SIG in networking might be ipfilter (;-) or email or routing. Does IP filter go in Networking or Security? Is the glass half empty or half full? It has a leg in each group :-( ... Why isn't there a developer community, that can be broken down into kernel development, library development, tools, build environment, etc, as SIGs? How about a user community as well? Users? Who are they? O:-) Don't they just make life difficult for us developers ? ;) Yesquite obviously they have been forgotten about :( The makeup of OpenSolaris into communities and the evolution beyond just communities is something I'd like to invite people to come and discuss at the OpenSolaris developer summit. Cheers, Darren ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86
I think the key thing here isn't that we don't have Adobe's reader but that there are things lacking in the reader that we do ship (that the Adobe reader does have). Things I am aware of are: * Fill in forms support * Markup/Collab - this one got me when someone sent design review comments for the zfs-crypto project this way and I couldn't view them except on MacOS (and even there it wasn't pretty). I know there are other things that the Adobe Reader can do that evince can't but I think those are the two commonly used ones. I don't think this is a project for OpenSolaris.org to fix though, it is probably best fixed upstream in the envince project. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] What about SIGs for OpenSolaris?
What is a SIG? Special Interest Group. Why should we consider SIGs for OpenSolaris? At present the only level of abstraction that we have in the OpenSolaris community is that of communities. We have communities for high level concepts (networking) and for very specific products (zfs) as well as groups of people (sysadmin). What I would like for people to consider is to allow the idea of SIGs to form within communities. Why should a SIG form within a community rather than be a community in its own right? Size. I see SIGs as being composed of a smaller subset of people. For example, an approriate SIG in networking might be ipfilter (;-) or email or routing. And in formalising the role of SIGs in OpenSolaris, I'd like to suggest that people take pause to consider the current structure of OpenSolaris into the various communities and ask themselves if it is correct or is it just the only way to map OpenSolaris into our existing structure? In short, the current formation of OpenSolaris has largely been to fit various projects inside Sun and not to model groups of interested people. For example, why shouldn't SMF be a SIG inside the sysadmin community, as afterall, SMF is well and truely in the province of system administration. Or where would someone go that wanted to work on VFS and/or the interfaces that support filesystems in OpenSolaris? Shouldn't there be a filesystem community that brings together ZFS, UFS, CIFS, and many of the other filesystems as SIGs inside it? Why isn't there a developer community, that can be broken down into kernel development, library development, tools, build environment, etc, as SIGs? Darren ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.
Joerg Schilling wrote: W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'd be great if we could run VMWare with Solaris as the guest OS. You mean with Solaris as a host OS? For me, only Solaris as host OS would be of interest Does anyone have any experience on xen? thanks. Did someone use Xen and is it possible to run MS-WIN on case that the host platform supports Pacifica or Vanderbilt? Technically yes it is possible and I've seen it done. However there are licensing issues (that are not appropriate for *any* @opensolaris.org alias) depending on which version/edition of a windows operating system you have. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Proposal for a new community...
I'd like to see a new community added to the opensolaris that supports developers of software that runs on top of opensolaris. Why do we need that? Because not every application that a developer wants to build will fit into one of our buckets. We need a catch-all that can be a home to people who build specialised applications that do not fit into any existing category. Darren ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to connect 2 laptop
Dennis wrote: AFAIK Bluetooth is not yet supported in Opensolaris. Correct, and the project that was started to do it had stalled due to lack of resources available to proceed. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] portmap(rpc bind) service configuration on solaris
RAJESH wrote: wanted to know if there is a way to configure manually the port number which is assigned by portmapper or rpcbind service on solaris? Why would you want to do that ? Exactly what problem are you trying to solve by doing this ? What RPC service is this for ? Generally the point of rpcbind is to avoid needing fixed assignments. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.
S h i v wrote: *I* cannot, because I am not the owner of the copyright. Point was about mixing CDDL GPL and why it *is a problem* Sane thing is to follow legal advice by the qualified. It seems to have its good share of problems and need not be done. There is no compelling need either. Extract of an email from Linus on 3 Dec 2003 to linux-kernel L Historically, there's been things like the original Andrew filesystem L module: a standard filesystem that really wasn't written for Linux in the L first place, and just implements a UNIX filesystem. Is that derived just L because it got ported to Linux that had a reasonably similar VFS interface L to what other UNIXes did? Personally, I didn't feel that I could make that L judgment call. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but it clearly is a gray L area. L Personally, I think that case wasn't a derived work, and I was willing to L tell the AFS guys so. OpenAFS runs on Linux and it is NOT GPL it is covered under the IBM Public License. OpenAFS isn't part of the Linux kernel source it just hooks into the VFS layer. I personally believe that a ZFS port could very likley be done under the same terms, but thats my interpretation of what Linus has said. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] An Open Letter to the Solaris Community.
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 11:38 +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Just a follow up question; when will acpi appear in OpenSolaris by default? ACPI already is[1] it appeared as part of newboot on x86 and is regularly updated to the latest Intel reference code. However I suspect you don't really mean ACPI but some bit of functionality that you believe uses ACPI. So what do you really mean here. Often when people say that (I was confused initially as well) they mean one or more of the following: battery info[2], suspend/resume to ram/disk, lid events, Power Management, when I go prtconf, and what you do mean by power management it is a very broad and vauge term. Do you mean varying the CPU speed/power or something else ? acpi (driver not attached) along with: cpus, instance #0 cpu (driver not attached) cpu (driver not attached) My laptop has power management which Linux and Windows supports, but B70 complains about the lack of _PSS. without knowing exactly what the specs and make/model of your laptop are I can't say if that is expected or not. This is probably best moved to laptop-discuss where there are likely more focused people who can help you. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [driver-discuss] Sound Blaster Live! in ONNV
Vladimir Kotal wrote: James Carlson wrote: snip The one thing I'd ask about here is whether the project team is aware of the OSS integration project (that will likely be obsoleting the old SADA bits), and if this project conflicts with or is obsoleted by that one. If so, then coordinating with them would be helpful. I didn't know that someone intends to port OSS bits to OpenSolaris until now. Could someone please point me to the project page or provide more info ? All I've been able externally that I could find is the ARC one pager: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2007/238/ I'd suggest contactin Margot Miller - she is listed as the submitter for the ARC case. If the OSS bits (including working SBLive! driver) are going to be integrated into Nevada in the foreseeable future then there is no point in integrating SADA based driver. According to the list on opensound.com the Creative SBLive! is supported on x86 but not on SPARC: http://manuals.opensound.com/devlists/Solaris-i386.html http://manuals.opensound.com/devlists/Solaris-sparc.html -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] COBOL?
Gerard Nualla wrote: Hi, I am wondering if we have COBOL in OpenSolaris (or any Solaris distribution). Are you looking for a COBOL compiler or for source written in the COBOL language as part of the OpenSolaris sources ? BTW you won't find either of those on OpenSolaris.org. Sun used to ship a COBOL compiler as part of the compiler bundle but I don't believe that is included any more. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Compile errors during onnv-gate
Patrick Ale wrote: Hi all, And now for something completely different. I pulled the ONNV source from the mercurial (spelling) repository. I get the following errors in the mail_msg: http://pastebin.com/m776bbbf0 The end result after 8 hour compilation is... SILK! ACK! I don't see any cpio archives in the archives directory, and I think it's cause of the error shown in the mail_msg. Can someone give me a guide line as of what I am doing wrong or how I can fix it? I am trying to compile on an Athlon 2400XP+ with Sun Studio Pro 12, which is shipped by default with Nevada 69. You MUST use Studio 11 at this time. Use of Studio 12 is not known to produce working and usable output from the build. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] mail from opensolaris.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I notice that some people (all of whom, I believe, work for sun), have an opensolaris.org email address. So, does opensolaris.org support email accounts? If so, how do I get one? The work for Sun is a complete Red herring. The original email from Stephen Lau is this one: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/contributors/2007-July.txt -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Regarding CDDL - using ufs code
amol wrote: Hi, I want to use the struct direct datastructure from the file ufs_fsdir.h - just that data structure in a proprietary code. I read the CDDL CDDL FAQ and i know I am allowed to do that, but I am not sure how much source code I need to release under CDDL. Am I allowed to do the following?: - take the data structure - save it in a .h file, which will have the required license text present. - make just this .h file open source and leave the .c files that use the data structure closed-source. This list is not for legal advice. You are creating a derivative work and should seek qualified formal legal advice. What you have said sounds correct to me based on my understanding of the CDDL. However I am not a qualified legal professional and this is not legal advice. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Small problem - if you change your wireless key on the router NWAM fails to come back to say that the password has failed and requires re-entering it. Have you logged a bug on that or discussed it with the team on nwam-discuss ? -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List
Why should things like Azureus be preinstalled on OpenSolaris distributions when they aren't on Windows ? That just isn't a fair standard to hold OpenSolaris distributions to. You had to down load a bittorrent client and Photoshop etc initially on Windows. -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana Wish List
Orvar Korvar wrote: For a Windows user, these things are essential for a successfull switch: -chat, msn Pidgin, nee GAIM. -web cam Works to some extent already with Ekiga. -photoshop-esque program. GIMP - already in Solaris Express. -file sharing; bittorrent and DC++. Important. bittorrent and Azurus both work just fine. -office OpenOffice.org or its peer StarOffice. -an easy internet setup (maybe wireless) See the NWAM project on opensolaris.org, it doesn't get much easier than automagic :-) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org