Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
This is awesome, thanks for this guys! Regards 2014-09-16 7:09 GMT+02:00 Angelo Matarazzo matarazzoang...@gmail.com: You are great!!! As newbie I tell you: thank you a lot Angelo Il giorno 16/set/2014 00:58, Sean Dague s...@dague.net ha scritto: A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack, looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding questions from anyone interested. For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour. Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube video that's publicly accessible once we're done. We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help people follow along at home). Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that. As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a ton in the process. Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
This is a great idea, and will be hugely useful for new people in Openstack, like me. Thank you! On 16 September 2014 03:31, Ricardo Carrillo Cruz ricardo.carrillo.c...@gmail.com wrote: This is awesome, thanks for this guys! Regards 2014-09-16 7:09 GMT+02:00 Angelo Matarazzo matarazzoang...@gmail.com: You are great!!! As newbie I tell you: thank you a lot Angelo Il giorno 16/set/2014 00:58, Sean Dague s...@dague.net ha scritto: A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack, looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding questions from anyone interested. For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour. Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube video that's publicly accessible once we're done. We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help people follow along at home). Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that. As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a ton in the process. Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober rochelle.gro...@huawei.com wrote: +1000 This is *great*. Not only for newbies, but refreshers, learning different approaches, putting faces to the signatures, etc. And Mock best practices is a brilliant starting place for developers. Yes! I'd like to vote for a few others: - Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, etc) - Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc. - Fixing a bug: From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, etc. - Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear down. - Third-party CI testing and consuming Infrastructure services Sorry to have such a big wish list, but for people who learn experientially, this will be immensely useful. --Rocky -Original Message- From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that. As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a ton in the process. Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
This is a great idea, thanks! On 16 September 2014 08:56, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack, looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding questions from anyone interested. For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour. Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube video that's publicly accessible once we're done. We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help people follow along at home). Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that. As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a ton in the process. Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
+1000 This is *great*. Not only for newbies, but refreshers, learning different approaches, putting faces to the signatures, etc. And Mock best practices is a brilliant starting place for developers. I'd like to vote for a few others: - Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, etc) - Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc. - Fixing a bug: From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, etc. - Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear down. Sorry to have such a big wish list, but for people who learn experientially, this will be immensely useful. --Rocky -Original Message- From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack, looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding questions from anyone interested. For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour. Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube video that's publicly accessible once we're done. We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help people follow along at home). Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that. As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a ton in the process. Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
Sean Dague s...@dague.net writes: Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan ah too bad this is when the week-end start in Europe (and usually mean family time for me) but no complaining I guess there is no hours that can be found to please everyone. Chmouel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
On 09/15/2014 11:05 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Sean Dague s...@dague.net writes: Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan ah too bad this is when the week-end start in Europe (and usually mean family time for me) but no complaining I guess there is no hours that can be found to please everyone. But it will all be recorded, so you can enjoy my face-made-for-radio any time you want. :P Best, jay ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:04:53 AM Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: +1000 This is *great*. Not only for newbies, but refreshers, learning different approaches, putting faces to the signatures, etc. And Mock best practices is a brilliant starting place for developers. I'd like to vote for a few others: - Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, etc) - Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc. - Fixing a bug: From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, etc. - Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear down. Really looking forward to this series, thanks to everyone who has a hand in putting them together. In addition to the cross-project meta-topics mentioned above, I'd also love to see a technical overview for each of the major projects of OpenStack (in separate talks). They would need to be refreshed periodically as architecture evolves, but that's ok. Existing docs and presentations spend time talking about user-visible features, but very few talk about the implementation and internals. It took me an embarrassingly long time and a read of devstack to even work out which code ran on the hosts vs on controller nodes (for example) ;) -- - Gus ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
On 09/15/2014 08:04 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: I'd like to vote for a few others: - Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, etc) - Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc. - Fixing a bug: From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, etc. - Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear down. All great suggestions (though for true deep dives, I think we'd need to split some of the above items into smaller topics) :) We planned to have an ongoing etherpad where folks could both get links to old recordings as well as suggest topics they'd like to see covered. Sorry to have such a big wish list, but for people who learn experientially, this will be immensely useful. Yeah, we're excited to see how this goes :) -jay --Rocky -Original Message- From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack, looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding questions from anyone interested. For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour. Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th, from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube video that's publicly accessible once we're done. We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help people follow along at home). Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that. As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a ton in the process. Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming. -Sean ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST
On 09/15/2014 03:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack, looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding questions from anyone interested. For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour. More than awesomely fantastic job! Let me know all the details asap so I can help with the promotion. /stef -- Ask and answer questions on https://ask.openstack.org ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
