V$SESSION with no osuser and no username

2002-02-07 Thread Sinard Xing

Hi all,

I'm using Sun Solaris 7 with Sun Clustering cluster 2.2
I have 4 strange users connected in this machine Oracle 8.1.6.0.0
(Dedicated)

Characteristic of unknown users (from v$session) :
- 4 of them connected without USERNAME, OSUSER, PROGRAM, TERMINAL, MACHINE
(they are NULLl)
- Logon_time keep changing to the current time,
- user# = 0 (SYS according to dba_users)
- status = active
- type = user
- Last_call_et values are the same for four of them (20)



Can someone explain who are those users

Thanks

Sinardy



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RE: TABLESPACE PCTINCREASE?

2002-02-07 Thread Connor McDonald

This may be true but if a uniform extent size policy
(or very close to it) is adopted (or enforced with
lmt's) then there is no need to coalesce anything at
all - even if chunks of free space are contiguous.

hth
connor

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 coalesce occasionally especially if you deallocate
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 see tablespaces needing coalescing:
 
 select a.tablespace_name, count(a.tablespace_name)
 ContinguousFreeBlocks 
 from dba_free_space a, dba_free_space b
 where a.tablespace_name = b.tablespace_name
 and a.file_id = b.file_id
 and a.block_id = b.block_id + b.Blocks
 group by a.tablespace_name;
 
 If the number of ContinguousFreeBlocks gets above
 20, I coalesce. You may chose a different number
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Re: JDBC errors?

2002-02-07 Thread Marin Dimitrov
Title: JDBC errors?





  I am getting weird results while trying to connect via jdbc to 
  an Oracle 817 db on Windows 2000. I can connect 
  via ODBC, but not JDBC, any ideas? 
  
  
  

is the weird result accompanied by an error 
message?





Unix permissions

2002-02-07 Thread John Dunn

Since we use utl_file to read/write files from our application
directories(which are not owned by oracle), we need to set the permissions
on these directories so that Oracle has permission to read and write to
them.

However we run into problems because Systems Admin guys do not like :

1. setting 777 permissions on the directories
2. making our application user a member of the oracle group

Anyone had the same problems?


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RE: JDBC errors?

2002-02-07 Thread Clinton Naude
Title: JDBC errors?



Sorry, 
the errormessage is the following:


java.sql.SQLException: Io exception: The Network Adapter could not establish 
the connection
at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:168)
at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:210)
at oracle.jdbc.dbaccess.DBError.throwSqlException(DBError.java:323)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleConnection.init(OracleConnection.java:263)
at 
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver.getConnectionInstance(OracleDriver.java:365)
at oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver.connect(OracleDriver.java:260)
at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:517)
at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:177)
at csTest.main(csTest.java:34)

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I am getting weird results while trying to connect via jdbc 
to an Oracle 817 db on Windows 2000. I can 
connect via ODBC, but not JDBC, any ideas? 




  
  is the weird result accompanied by an error 
  message?
  
  
  


Re: V$SESSION with no osuser and no username

2002-02-07 Thread Stephane Faroult

Sinard Xing wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm using Sun Solaris 7 with Sun Clustering cluster 2.2
 I have 4 strange users connected in this machine Oracle 8.1.6.0.0
 (Dedicated)
 
 Characteristic of unknown users (from v$session) :
 - 4 of them connected without USERNAME, OSUSER, PROGRAM, TERMINAL, MACHINE
 (they are NULLl)
 - Logon_time keep changing to the current time,
 - user# = 0 (SYS according to dba_users)
 - status = active
 - type = user
 - Last_call_et values are the same for four of them (20)
 
 Can someone explain who are those users
 
 Thanks
 
 Sinardy
 

Sinardy,

   Can be processes for jobs (most likely), Intermedia-style processes,
etc. Join on V$PROCESS or V$BGPROCESS to have the fuller picture.
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stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Shibu



Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file 
listener.log??

regards,
shibu


Stored Procedures

2002-02-07 Thread Stefan Jakobsson

Well, I finally got permissions to use stored procedures in one of our
projects.

Problem is, I'm not all that butch when it comes to SP's, so, the question
is.

Do any of you have any links to good tutorials that shows how to best
utilize them?

Would like to see some examples on what you can do with them. In our case
they
will be very simple.

Would be gratefull for any pointers :)

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Scrolling Sideways in SQL*Plus

2002-02-07 Thread nlzanen1



Hi All,


Maybe a stupid question but this is bugging me.

In SQL*Plus I get a scrollbar sideways but can't use it even though there
is data to the right of the screen.
I looked at all the settings but can't find the setting to make it usable

8.1.6  8.1.7 Client on W2K

Anybody???


TIA


Jack

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RE: Data Retrieval Tool

2002-02-07 Thread

Hello Dennis

We bought PlSqlDeveloper.
The tool  show you a list of the tables.
Right click on a table and you get a menu that let you
(among other things) query and update the data.

If I remember correctly it cost 750$ for 10 user license.

Go to http://www.allroundautomations.com .


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 Good day all,
 I have been asked the following question a couple of time by our database
 users -
 They have a bunch of small Access databases that they want to port into
 Oracle. Since most of these databases have just a few tables in them I
 figure I can use sql loader to load the access tables into Oracle. But the
 tough part is, how do we have the users access the data once it is in
 Oracle? Since these are pretty static databases and we don't have the
 resources in house to develop front end tools to retrieve the data, I am
 wondering if there is a slick, user friendly tool out there can help us
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RE: Scrolling Sideways in SQL*Plus

2002-02-07 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Change the buffer width in the environment panel.

That should do it.

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Hi All,


Maybe a stupid question but this is bugging me.

In SQL*Plus I get a scrollbar sideways but can't use it even though there
is data to the right of the screen.
I looked at all the settings but can't find the setting to make it usable

8.1.6  8.1.7 Client on W2K

Anybody???


TIA


Jack

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Re: Oracle 8i docs

2002-02-07 Thread Prem J Khanna

Sathish ,

look at http://tahiti.oracle.com

Jp.



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RE: Ora

2002-02-07 Thread

Thanks All

Found it.

The weird thing is that it was the TEMP tablespace
and I have hash_multiblock_io_count to zero (0).
So why am I getting this error?

Increasing the extent size to 5MB solved the problem.



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 ora816 on nt.
 
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RE: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread peter . lomax



Lee,
I 
really don't think that's what he was after.
However he does ask an Alice (IWL) and Cheshire cat 
question.
Although yes I did resist the temptation to reply
with 
such flair.
Peter

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  listener.log
  Stop 
  the listener !!
  
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How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file 
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RE: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN

2002-02-07 Thread

Hello Kevin

you wrote:
 And the table and index is analyzed at same way.
What way?
If you use estimate you can get wrong statistics.
Try to do full analysis.



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 Hi, Bill
  
 You are right, there is really something to do with the index. 
 I dropre-created that PK index, it became much faster, but after 5
 minutes, it became slow again, and I am sure no records
 insert/delete/update happened. I dropre-created that indexes again,
 nothing happened this time, it is still slow!
 It is really weird!
  
 And I found on the bad performance database,  a simplest query: select
 count(*) from table_namewill take 4 seconds!
 the explain_plan said it used cost-optimizer, using fast_full_index_scan
 on that PK index, 
 what should I do with the index? I already tried to re-created the PK
 index.
  
 The bad performance database is on a super-box, 4 CPUs and more memory.
 the good performance one is on a normal box.
  And the table and index is analyzed at same way.
  
  thanks a lot for your reply.
  
  
   Kevin Wang
   
 
  
 
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   Kevin,

   Have these indexes been rebuilt recently?  If not, you may want
 to consider rebuilding the indexes.  Not sure if this is your issue, but
 if you have inserted/deleted records from your tables over time, the index
 levels may have grown as well.

   ~
   Bill Zakrzewski
   Senior Consultant
   Intactus Technology, Inc.
   
 
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   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:43 PM
   Subject: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN
 
 Hi, guys

 The problem belows is really make me confused and gave me
 big trouble, is there someone can give me some hlep?
 
 I have two databses, same version(oracle 8.1.6),same
 O/S(win2000), same schema structure, different data(but small difference
 of size).
 and even exactly same explain_plan of my sql query.  
 But on one database, the cardinality of one PK index
 access upon one table is 27(cost=2,card=27,bytes=756) (table rows 263758)
 and the other is 11706
 (cost=3,card=11706,bytes=199002)( table rows 351173).  
 so, on one DB the sql query took 300ms, one the other, it
 took 5 seconds!

 Any advise is highly appreciated.

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 Vivonet Canada Inc.
 
 

 
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[Fwd: Re: STATSPACK impact?]

2002-02-07 Thread Bjørn Engsig




   To get resonable results from the reports, your timing interval should
be around 10 to 30 minutes. As running statspack collection every that often 
is likely to produce far too much data than you want to have space for, I 
always recommend running statspack collection in a system like this repeatedly: 
Collect, wait 15 minutes, collect, wait long time, and then subsequently 
do the reporting over the 15 minute intervals.

 And as to the impact: There is in fact some impact on busy systems, which 
primarily comes from loading the statspack package into the library cache. 
The impact isn't large, and it is clearly worth doing.

 Thanks, Bjrn.

 Joe Raube wrote:

  I have run it as frequently as once per hour, often times just 2 or 3 times per day - morning, noon, close of business.I have never seen any performance impact, and I don't believe therewill be any unless you change the default level of statistics gathering.-JoeOn Wed, 06 Feb 2002 12:47:48 -0800Thomas Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
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Re: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz



Shibu , 

IF you type LSNRCTL HELP 
YOU WILL SEE THE SET OPTION 
THEN TYPE 
HELP SET 
you will see the log_status action ..

type show log_status . and be sure that 
it is ON. Then try to make it OFF with the SET command ...

Bunyamin 



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  Shibu,
  What 
  do you really want?
  Log messages written to 
  /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
  You could redivert this to /dev/null however this 
  defeats the point.
  You can rename it every day and archive off after 14 
  days.
  
  User Failing to connect 
  like
  Microsoft Transaction 
  Server
  Look on the 
metalink
  "Establish a grant to 
  DBA_PENDING_TRANSACTIONS"
  HTH
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  listener.log
  
Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file 
listener.log??

regards,
shibu


RE: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



Stop 
the listener !!

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  Hi
  
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  listener.log??
  
  regards,
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Re: Scrolling Sideways in SQL*Plus

2002-02-07 Thread G . Plivna


I also have sometimes this weird situation

I usually set buffer width 1000
and linesize also 1000

Sometimes I cannot use scrollbar to the right but the cure for that is
simple
if I change the dimensions of my SQL/Plus window then all is just fine

Not too often, but anyway
I don't know 


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In SQL*Plus I get a scrollbar sideways but can't use it even though there
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8.1.6  8.1.7 Client on W2K

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Re: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Igor Neyman



Shibu,

To stop listener from writing into listener.log put the 
following into listener configuration file listener.ora:

LOGGING_LISTENER = OFF
then stop/start listener to use modified configuration 
file.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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  Hi
  
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  regards,
  shibu


RE: svrmgrl

2002-02-07 Thread

Hello Rachel  All

Tested it and it worked.
it worked so well that I could access any table
(tested some).

?

Where is the security?

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 that's because, as Oracle has been promising, they no longer support
 svrmgrl in 9i.
 
 It does not exist, you will need to use sqlplus:
 
 sqlplus /nolog
 connect / as sysdba
 
 
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Re: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Shibu



Hi peter 

I have thousands of connection in my 
dband listener.log is growing very fastly. I want to 
flush it manaually every time
I want to either stop it or flush it automatically 
.My db is 8.1.7 on win2k
Do u h ave any solution for this ?

regards,
shibu

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  Shibu,
  What 
  do you really want?
  Log messages written to 
  /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
  You could redivert this to /dev/null however this 
  defeats the point.
  You can rename it every day and archive off after 14 
  days.
  
  User Failing to connect 
  like
  Microsoft Transaction 
  Server
  Look on the 
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  "Establish a grant to 
  DBA_PENDING_TRANSACTIONS"
  HTH
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Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file 
listener.log??

regards,
shibu


Re: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Gene Sais

Stay with HP Serviceguard!  From experience, I rank HA solutions in this order:

1. HP serviceguard - easy and it works.
2. IBM HACMP - do it the way IBM wants it and it works.
3. Sun Cluster - get a high paid consultant to set it up and have them come back to 
change it :)  Better yet, go with Veritas Trusted Cluster.

Just my $.02.  I know some Sun ppl on this list will disagree, but if they worked in a 
HP env maybe not :)

Gene

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/02 08:23PM 
Hi...
 I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. If a DBA/SA
team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard clusters on HP
and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...

a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun clusters (ex: about 5
minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a cluster, disk
sharing etc..)

b) Any differences between these... What are the things to watch out for
(assuming the team already knows in and out of  MC/Serviceguard)

Thank you in advance...
Rama

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Re: Unix permissions

2002-02-07 Thread Gene Sais

I typically set utl_file to /tmp/oracle/$ORACLE_SID.  The /tmp dir (setuid bit set) 
allows oracle to write and anyone to read.  It protects users from overwriting Oracle 
files.  Nothing for the sysadmin to change :)

Gene

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Since we use utl_file to read/write files from our application
directories(which are not owned by oracle), we need to set the permissions
on these directories so that Oracle has permission to read and write to
them.

However we run into problems because Systems Admin guys do not like :

1. setting 777 permissions on the directories
2. making our application user a member of the oracle group

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RE: Limiting RMAN backup size

2002-02-07 Thread Jay Hostetter

I have used SET LIMIT CHANNEL to limit the size of the backup pieces. I haven't used 
SETSIZE, which limits the total byte size of a backup set.  However, I don't see how 
this will help, since a backup command can create many backup sets.

I face the same dilema.  It looks like another example of Oracle giving you very a 
fine-grained level of control over everything except that which you want to control.

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TIA,
 
I suggest reading the section of the manual on Back Sets.  I've included the
link below for you.
 
Cheers,
Craig.
 
http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.
817/a76990/rmanconc.htm#443835
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Hi
I am doing RMAN incremental level 0 backup .The database size is about 150GB
out of which used would be about 100GB.I don't have a single volume with
100GB of space.So I need to distribute the backup across several disks.
 
Also I need to limit the backup size in each of the volumes depending on how
much space is available in those volumes.
For e.g if i want to limit
/disk1 to 40GB
/disk2 to 10GB
/disk3 to 10GB
/disk4 to 10Gb
How would i do this in RMAN?
 
TIA
 





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Re: svrmgrl

2002-02-07 Thread Igor Neyman

It's an equivalent of 'internal' login, that's why you can access any table.

On NT you'll be able to do : 'connect / as sysdba', only if you are logged
into NT as a member of ORA_DBA group.

That's as much security as you can get.

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 Hello Rachel  All

 Tested it and it worked.
 it worked so well that I could access any table
 (tested some).

 ?

 Where is the security?

 Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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  that's because, as Oracle has been promising, they no longer support
  svrmgrl in 9i.
 
  It does not exist, you will need to use sqlplus:
 
  sqlplus /nolog
  connect / as sysdba
 
 
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RE: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN

2002-02-07 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

Kevin,

Have you tried it with autotrace on to see the number of reads etc?

Iain

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Yes, Mike, I analyzed the table and PK index on the two databases at the
same way,
it seems that there is something wrong with the PK index,
the select count(*) from table_name  query took 4 seconds, and only 335199
rows atcually.
it use fast_full_index scan of the PK index, and I re-created the PK index,
same thing. that's very bad.

it is Oracle 8.1.6 on win2000.

thanks for reply.

Kevin Wang


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 Kevin,

 Have you analyzed the tables on both databases? Card is the CBO's estimate
 of the number of rows it will process.

 Mike



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 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:43:38 -0800
 
Hi, guys
 
The problem belows is really make me confused and gave me big trouble,
 is there someone can give me some hlep?
 
I have two databses, same version(oracle 8.1.6),same O/S(win2000),
same
 schema structure, different data(but small difference of size).
and even exactly same explain_plan of my sql query.
But on one database, the cardinality of one PK index access upon one
 table is 27(cost=2,card=27,bytes=756) (table rows 263758)
and the other is 11706 (cost=3,card=11706,bytes=199002)( table
rows
 351173).
so, on one DB the sql query took 300ms, one the other, it took 5
 seconds!
 
Any advise is highly appreciated.
 
thanks,
 
Kevin Wang
Database Administrator
Vivonet Canada Inc.
 
 
 


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Re[2]: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread dgoulet

Shibu,

To get the listener to stop logging immediately without having to bounce it:

lsnrctl
set log_status = off
exit

Now to get that to stay forever set logging_listener = off in the
listener.ora.

Now delete the log file  your done.  For normal day to day operations the
log file is absolutely useless.  Actually I think the default log_status should
be off.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Shibu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   2/7/2002 5:14 AM

Hi peter 

I have thousands of connection in my  db and  listener.log is growing very
fastly. I  want  to flush it manaually  every time
I want to either stop it or flush it automatically .My db is 8.1.7 on win2k
Do u h ave any solution for this ?

regards,
shibu
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  Shibu,
  What do you really want?
  Log messages written to /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
  You could redivert this to /dev/null however this defeats the point.
  You can rename it every day and archive off after 14 days.

  User Failing to connect like
  Microsoft Transaction Server
  Look on the metalink
  Establish a grant to DBA_PENDING_TRANSACTIONS
  HTH
  Peter
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Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file listener.log??

regards,
shibu

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Re:MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread dgoulet

Rama,

We did the MC/ServiceGuard thing some years ago.  Worked well, after our SA
rebuilt the servers from ground 0.  Adding it on to an existing server is ok,
but somewhat unstable.  One item to be VERY careful of.  The heartbeat cable, in
our case a ethernet thin line, needs to be on a dedicated link, preferably a
purchased vs. custom made cable, and protected from accidental disconnect.  Ours
got disconnected by a contractor working in the computer room because it was in
his way.  The resulting reboot of the backup server and forcible takeover of
the disk farm absolutely destroyed the database.  We had more file corruption
than I ever could have imagined.  Consequently we abandoned ServiceGuard  are
going to standby databases instead.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Rama Malladi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   2/6/2002 5:23 PM

Hi...
 I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. If a DBA/SA
team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard clusters on HP
and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...

a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun clusters (ex: about 5
minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a cluster, disk
sharing etc..)

b) Any differences between these... What are the things to watch out for
(assuming the team already knows in and out of  MC/Serviceguard)

Thank you in advance...
Rama

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RE: svrmgrl

2002-02-07 Thread

Thanks Igor

Checked and the NT user is indeed in ORA_DBA.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 It's an equivalent of 'internal' login, that's why you can access any
 table.
 
 On NT you'll be able to do : 'connect / as sysdba', only if you are logged
 into NT as a member of ORA_DBA group.
 
 That's as much security as you can get.
 
 Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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  Hello Rachel  All
 
  Tested it and it worked.
  it worked so well that I could access any table
  (tested some).
 
  ?
 
  Where is the security?
 
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   that's because, as Oracle has been promising, they no longer support
   svrmgrl in 9i.
  
   It does not exist, you will need to use sqlplus:
  
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RE: Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i ??

2002-02-07 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Not to my knowledge. But there are other 3rd party tools to unload and load
data. 
Any particular reason to not use what's provided by Oracle? 

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Hi
Is there any Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i availabel ?
, other than provided by Oracle ,

Thx
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RE: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN

2002-02-07 Thread Seefelt, Beth


I'm sure this is too simple but its not excessive extents is it?

select count(*) from dba_extents where segment_name = 'PK_INDEX_NAME';
select count(*) from dba_extents where segment_name = 'TABLE_NAME';



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Kevin,

Have you tried it with autotrace on to see the number of reads etc?

Iain

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Yes, Mike, I analyzed the table and PK index on the two databases at the
same way, it seems that there is something wrong with the PK index, the
select count(*) from table_name  query took 4 seconds, and only 335199
rows atcually. it use fast_full_index scan of the PK index, and I
re-created the PK index, same thing. that's very bad.

it is Oracle 8.1.6 on win2000.

thanks for reply.

Kevin Wang


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 Kevin,

 Have you analyzed the tables on both databases? Card is the CBO's 
 estimate of the number of rows it will process.

 Mike



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 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:43:38 -0800
 
Hi, guys
 
The problem belows is really make me confused and gave me big 
 trouble, is there someone can give me some hlep?
 
I have two databses, same version(oracle 8.1.6),same O/S(win2000),
same
 schema structure, different data(but small difference of size).
and even exactly same explain_plan of my sql query.
But on one database, the cardinality of one PK index access upon 
 one table is 27(cost=2,card=27,bytes=756) (table rows 263758)
and the other is 11706 (cost=3,card=11706,bytes=199002)( table
rows
 351173).
so, on one DB the sql query took 300ms, one the other, it took 5 
 seconds!
 
Any advise is highly appreciated.
 
thanks,
 
Kevin Wang
Database Administrator
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RE: Re[2]: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

erm. to Shibu.

I forgot the smiley. It was only a joke !!!


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Shibu,

To get the listener to stop logging immediately without having to bounce
it:

lsnrctl
set log_status = off
exit

Now to get that to stay forever set logging_listener = off in the
listener.ora.

Now delete the log file  your done.  For normal day to day operations
the
log file is absolutely useless.  Actually I think the default log_status
should
be off.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Shibu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   2/7/2002 5:14 AM

Hi peter 

I have thousands of connection in my  db and  listener.log is growing very
fastly. I  want  to flush it manaually  every time
I want to either stop it or flush it automatically .My db is 8.1.7 on win2k
Do u h ave any solution for this ?

regards,
shibu
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  Subject: RE: stopiing write to listener.log


  Shibu,
  What do you really want?
  Log messages written to
/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
  You could redivert this to /dev/null however this defeats the point.
  You can rename it every day and archive off after 14 days.

  User Failing to connect like
  Microsoft Transaction Server
  Look on the metalink
  Establish a grant to DBA_PENDING_TRANSACTIONS
  HTH
  Peter
  -Message d'origine-
  De : Shibu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Envoyé : jeudi 7 février 2002 11:38
  A : Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Objet : stopiing write to listener.log


Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file listener.log??

regards,
shibu

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Re: Scrolling Sideways in SQL*Plus

2002-02-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael

set linesize larger


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SQL Insert question

2002-02-07 Thread iashraf

Hi ,

this is puzzling me..

i have following table

table name = Sierras.
Columns =
regno,
platfrom,
cost ,
licence_ref
renewal_data

i split this table up into 2:

1. Softwares
cols=
id,
regno,
platfrom,

2. Licences
id,
cost ,
licence_ref,
renewal_data,

i have a third table, a link table between softwares and licences

cols=
id,
licence_id,
software_id
i want to populate this table with the ids from softwares and licences, so
that if joined together 1 row would reflect a row in the old table sierras.
What query can i write for this??

hope all that makes sense!

regards
IA


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Re:RE: Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i ??

2002-02-07 Thread dgoulet

Kirti,

I believe the question is: is there any way to migrate from 7.3.4 directly
to 9i.  Assuming that to be correct the answer obviously is no, unless you want
to take the export/import route.  The reason is that in migrating from 7x to 8x
the rowid's in the database went through a major change that you can't bypass.

Dick Goulet

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Not to my knowledge. But there are other 3rd party tools to unload and load
data. 
Any particular reason to not use what's provided by Oracle? 

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Hi
Is there any Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i availabel ?
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Thx
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RE: svrmgrl

2002-02-07 Thread

You also need to be an administrator.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 It's an equivalent of 'internal' login, that's why you can access any
 table.
 
 On NT you'll be able to do : 'connect / as sysdba', only if you are logged
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 That's as much security as you can get.
 
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  Hello Rachel  All
 
  Tested it and it worked.
  it worked so well that I could access any table
  (tested some).
 
  ?
 
  Where is the security?
 
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   that's because, as Oracle has been promising, they no longer support
   svrmgrl in 9i.
  
   It does not exist, you will need to use sqlplus:
  
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Re: Scrolling Sideways in SQL*Plus

2002-02-07 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


I set the linesize larger and the buffer etc..

I do get the scrollbar and there is data to the right of the screen, but
the scrollbar just won't work


HTH


Jack




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 In SQL*Plus I get a scrollbar sideways but can't use it even though
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 I looked at all the settings but can't find the setting to make it
 usable

 8.1.6  8.1.7 Client on W2K

 Anybody???


 TIA


 Jack

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RE: RE: Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i ??

2002-02-07 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Dick,
 According to the 9i Migration Utility Guide, the Mig Utility that comes
with 9i will migrate 7.3.x database to 9i directly. Unfortunately we had no
7.3.4 database to migrate to 9.0.1. So I have not had a chance to test it
myself. We migrated several 7.3.x database to 8.x using Mig Util without any
problems.  
Of course, one can always use export/import for such things. 

- Kirti

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Kirti,

I believe the question is: is there any way to migrate from 7.3.4
directly
to 9i.  Assuming that to be correct the answer obviously is no, unless you
want
to take the export/import route.  The reason is that in migrating from 7x to
8x
the rowid's in the database went through a major change that you can't
bypass.

Dick Goulet

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Date:   2/7/2002 6:05 AM

Not to my knowledge. But there are other 3rd party tools to unload and load
data. 
Any particular reason to not use what's provided by Oracle? 

- Kirti  

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi
Is there any Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i availabel ?
, other than provided by Oracle ,

Thx
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RE: SQL Insert question

2002-02-07 Thread Thomas, Kevin

You could create a view across these two tables
to give you the info you need.

Cheers,
Kev.

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Hi ,

this is puzzling me..

i have following table

table name = Sierras.
Columns =
regno,
platfrom,
cost ,
licence_ref
renewal_data

i split this table up into 2:

1. Softwares
cols=
id,
regno,
platfrom,

2. Licences
id,
cost ,
licence_ref,
renewal_data,

i have a third table, a link table between softwares and licences

cols=
id,
licence_id,
software_id
i want to populate this table with the ids from softwares and licences, so
that if joined together 1 row would reflect a row in the old table sierras.
What query can i write for this??

hope all that makes sense!

regards
IA


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Re: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Ray Stell

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RE: Re[2]: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread peter . lomax

Nice one,
although the pipe still sounds interesting.
Peter

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Shibu,

To get the listener to stop logging immediately without having to bounce
it:

lsnrctl
set log_status = off
exit

Now to get that to stay forever set logging_listener = off in the
listener.ora.

Now delete the log file  your done.  For normal day to day operations
the
log file is absolutely useless.  Actually I think the default log_status
should
be off.

Dick Goulet

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Hi peter 

I have thousands of connection in my  db and  listener.log is growing very
fastly. I  want  to flush it manaually  every time
I want to either stop it or flush it automatically .My db is 8.1.7 on win2k
Do u h ave any solution for this ?

regards,
shibu
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  Shibu,
  What do you really want?
  Log messages written to
/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
  You could redivert this to /dev/null however this defeats the point.
  You can rename it every day and archive off after 14 days.

  User Failing to connect like
  Microsoft Transaction Server
  Look on the metalink
  Establish a grant to DBA_PENDING_TRANSACTIONS
  HTH
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Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file listener.log??

regards,
shibu

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RE: Slightly OT: PVCS Tracker 7.0 Backup Recovery Question

2002-02-07 Thread Kimberly Smith

You know, not to cause you to worry but I have had issues with
Tracker databases.  In one case I could not export fully successfully.
I worked with Oracle for about a week to try and get to the
cause (I don't think I had their brightest working with me).  Finally,
Oracle said to rebuild the database.  I am like How, I can't export
the f*n data.  Turns out I got enough out of it that I was ok.
Manually reproduced the rest.

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David,

Can simple suggestions initially that may isolate the problem:

Does the database run on Sun or on something else?
- I'm willing to learn but I only knew of the lite version on NT.
Can you connect to the database using SQLPlus and a DBA user and specifying
the SID (ie a Net8 connection)
If so, what does select * from v$version tell you - this will confirm the
Oracle version
If so, can you select from application tables within the database
If a Net8 connection doesn't work, (assuming the DB is on Unix) can you
telnet to the Unix box, set your oracle_sid and then try to connect
If this works but the Net8 connection didn't maybe there is a listener
issue.

You mention the alert log - it would be useful to see the last 30 or so
lines in the alert log
If you can connect to the database, the command show parameter dump should
tell you the location of the alert log (parameter name background_dump_dest)
show parameter dump will also tell you the user dump destination (parameter
user_dump_dest) - are there any new files in the user dump directory and if
so what do they contain

You mention you ran out of disk space - has that been fixed now?

Depending on what the above finds, maybe the database might need to be
restarted or maybe the listener.

I'm sure others will have many suggestions.

HTH,
Bruce Reardon

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   Hi List,

   My work group is using PVCS Tracker tool version 7.0 from Merant
which tracks development defects, and runs on a lite version of Oracle 8i.
Currently all users who login to PVCS receive the message: User cannot
retrieve data records.  We believe that a possible cause could be that we
ran out of disk space, which may have caused a data integrity violation.
This software is running on a Sun Unix server.

   Any suggestions such as viewing the Alert file would be helpful.
Please be easy, I'm a first timer and I've only taken the PL/SQL  and Admin
and Architecture classes.

 Thanks,

   David Harris
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RE: svrmgrl

2002-02-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael

see? security :)


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  It's an equivalent of 'internal' login, that's why you can access
 any
  table.
  
  On NT you'll be able to do : 'connect / as sysdba', only if you are
 logged
  into NT as a member of ORA_DBA group.
  
  That's as much security as you can get.
  
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   Tested it and it worked.
   it worked so well that I could access any table
   (tested some).
  
   ?
  
   Where is the security?
  
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that's because, as Oracle has been promising, they no longer
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svrmgrl in 9i.
   
It does not exist, you will need to use sqlplus:
   
sqlplus /nolog
connect / as sysdba
   
   
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Re: SQL Insert question

2002-02-07 Thread Stephane Faroult

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 Hi ,
 
 this is puzzling me..
 
 i have following table
 
 table name = Sierras.
 Columns =
 regno,
 platfrom,
 cost ,
 licence_ref
 renewal_data
 
 i split this table up into 2:
 
 1. Softwares
 cols=
 id,
 regno,
 platfrom,
 
 2. Licences
 id,
 cost ,
 licence_ref,
 renewal_data,
 
 i have a third table, a link table between softwares and licences
 
 cols=
 id,
 licence_id,
 software_id
 i want to populate this table with the ids from softwares and licences, so
 that if joined together 1 row would reflect a row in the old table sierras.
 What query can i write for this??
 
 hope all that makes sense!
 
 regards
 IA
 
insert into link_table (licence_id, software_id)
select l.id, s.id
from softwares s,
 licences l,
 sierras o
where l.licence_ref = o.licence_ref
  and l.renewal_data = o.renewal_data
  and s.regno = o.regno
  and s.platform = o.platform (in case you would have the same regno on
several platforms :)).

I don't see why you need any 'id' column in the link table.
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Re: RMAN full backup Vs Incremental level 0

2002-02-07 Thread Ruth Gramolini

You have to have an incremental level 0 in order to restore you database.
If you are going to do backups once daily then you should do a level 0 one
the first day of your cycle and then incremental backups after that.  There
are many levels of incremental and you should read about them to find out
which would be right for your operation.
If you have time to do a level 0 each day then that would be the best way.

We used to to do a level 1 after users went home and before nightly
processin and a level 0 each morning. We backup the archivlogs each time and
put one days backups on tape.

HTH,
Ruth
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Hi
I would like to know what are the advantages /disadvantages of full backups
vs. incremental level 0 backups.Which one should be done if we decide to
take backups only once daily?
How is the recovery operation going to be affected if we choose either? for
e.g if i decided to do incremental level 0 backups daily ,and if recovery is
needed, then will i be able to restore the level 0 incremental and recover
till the current point in time?

Is there any other issue which would help decide whether full backups or
incremental level 0 backups are better?

TIA


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Re: Instream SQL

2002-02-07 Thread Robert Pegram

#/bin/ksh
sqlplus -s /  EOF
  select 'x' from dual;
  exit;
EOF

Robert Pegram
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RE: JDBC errors?

2002-02-07 Thread Kimberly Smith
Title: JDBC errors?



When 
we had a similar problem it was cause of the JDBC driver that was being 
used.
They 
had to upgrade from the one we had been using to connect to previous 
versions
of the 
database.

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I am getting weird results while trying to connect via jdbc 
to an Oracle 817 db on Windows 2000. I can 
connect via ODBC, but not JDBC, any ideas? 




  
  is the weird result accompanied by an error 
  message?
  
  
  


RE: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Kimberly Smith

Actually, the heartbeat has been the biggest pain in the but of
ServiceGuard.  Its caused 99.99% of the failures.  Granted once
it was a failed network card.  All in all though, I have been pretty
happy with ServiceGuard.  And ours is dedicated and protected:-)

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Rama,

We did the MC/ServiceGuard thing some years ago.  Worked well, after our
SA
rebuilt the servers from ground 0.  Adding it on to an existing server is
ok,
but somewhat unstable.  One item to be VERY careful of.  The heartbeat
cable, in
our case a ethernet thin line, needs to be on a dedicated link, preferably a
purchased vs. custom made cable, and protected from accidental disconnect.
Ours
got disconnected by a contractor working in the computer room because it
was in
his way.  The resulting reboot of the backup server and forcible takeover
of
the disk farm absolutely destroyed the database.  We had more file
corruption
than I ever could have imagined.  Consequently we abandoned ServiceGuard 
are
going to standby databases instead.

Dick Goulet

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Hi...
 I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. If a DBA/SA
team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard clusters on HP
and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...

a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun clusters (ex: about 5
minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a cluster, disk
sharing etc..)

b) Any differences between these... What are the things to watch out for
(assuming the team already knows in and out of  MC/Serviceguard)

Thank you in advance...
Rama

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DLL question

2002-02-07 Thread Ed

Okay, I can't find where this is documented.  What .dll corresponds to ora805.dll in 
8.1.6?  Better yet, where is that documented?

Best,

Ed

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export/import errors

2002-02-07 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

I just did my first export/import and of course I got some errors at the very end of 
my import log file.  My problem is I don't have a clue as to what they are.  Below is 
the last few lines of the import log file

About to enable constraints...
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
. importing FINANCE's objects into FINANCE
. importing CIM's objects into CIM
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-9: abnormal end of export file
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.POST_IMPORT; END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors


I'm looking in the fine manuals but not finding much.  Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
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Re: Scrolling Sideways in SQL*Plus

2002-02-07 Thread iashraf

try exiting sql plus and login in again
then set the linesize 1000 (e.g.)  first before  you run anything else






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I set the linesize larger and the buffer etc..

I do get the scrollbar and there is data to the right of the screen, but
the scrollbar just won't work


HTH


Jack




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set linesize larger


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 Maybe a stupid question but this is bugging me.

 In SQL*Plus I get a scrollbar sideways but can't use it even though
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 I looked at all the settings but can't find the setting to make it
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 8.1.6  8.1.7 Client on W2K

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RE: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Prakriteswar Santikary



Peter,

How do 
you set the 'Log Rotation' ? From command line utility 'lsnrctl' or is there any 
parameter for listener.ora ? Another thing: How do I track the exact SQLs being 
sent to the Oracle server ? I remember somebody on this list gave some hints in 
this direction. I just don't remember now the parameter name that I have to set 
in the listener.ora (some levl=16 or something like that ?)

thanks
Santi

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:44 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  stopiing write to listener.log
  Shibu,
  OK 
  so I now understand a little better your need.
  Of 
  course there is listener OFF (logging_listener=off)
  As I 
  said this really does defeat the point.
  
  Their are two approaches that spring to mind.
  Log 
  Rotation or writing to a pipe.
  Log 
  Rotation:
  Every x hours stop the listener, rename the file, start the 
  listener
  You 
  can then do stats on normal connections and save just the error and startups 
  et al ...
  Writing to a pipe:
  Would mean that you create a pipe alert_SID.ora and have a process that 
  would read from the pipe everything but normal 
connections.
  The 
  disadvantages are
  - 
  that you may not be able to do this on your NT box.
  - 
  you lose all your stats of cnxs
  Peter
  
  -Message d'origine-De: Shibu 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Envoyé: jeudi 7 février 2002 
  14:15À: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LObjet: Re: stopiing write to 
  listener.log
  
Hi peter 

I have thousands of connection in my 
dband listener.log is growing very fastly. I want to 
flush it manaually every time
I want to either stop it or flush it 
automatically .My db is 8.1.7 on win2k
Do u h ave any solution for this ?

regards,
shibu

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  listener.log
  
  Shibu,
  What do you really want?
  Log messages written to 
  /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
  You could redivert this to /dev/null however this 
  defeats the point.
  You can rename it every day and archive off after 
  14 days.
  
  User Failing to connect 
  like
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  "Establish a grant to 
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  ORACLE-LObjet: stopiing write to 
  listener.log
  
Hi

How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the 
file listener.log??

regards,
shibu


Remote Compromise in Oracle

2002-02-07 Thread Ray Stell


The post here yesterday on this topic was underwelming:

NGSSoftware Insight Security Research Advisory

Name:Oracle Remote Compromise
Systems Affected:  Oracle 9, 8
Platforms:  All Operating Systems
Severity:  High Risk
Vendor URL:   http://www.oracle.com/
Author:   David Litchfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Date:   6th February 2002
Advisory number: #NISR06022002A
Advisory URL:  http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/oraplsextproc.txt

Does Oracle Corp have a response on this?
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What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?

2002-02-07 Thread Cherie_Machler


We drop and recreate many indexes on our large partitioned fact table in
our data warehouse nightly.   The amount of data in the table increases
gradually with time but there aren't huge fluctuations in the amount of
data in the partitions from day to day.

The problem is that the amount of time that it takes to recreate the
indexes varies widely.   From 40 minutes to almost three hours.  I am
inclined to believe that this is a scheduling issue related to the time of
the day and the day of the week.   I think we may be experiencing
competition from other batch jobs from other applications.  One
application, in particular, is sort of a black box because it is not on
Oracle and it belongs to people who reside in a remote site.

However, I want to make sure I've considered all of the possibilities.
What factors might influence how long it takes to rebuild indexes on
existing partitions?
If I just did some maintenance to split out some data for a new time period
into a new partition, might that make a difference in how long it takes to
build the indexes?

These indexes are all locally partitioned indexes.

Thanks for any insight you can lend.

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
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Re: SQL Insert question

2002-02-07 Thread iashraf

Im afraid i cant answer that question Stephane , as i dont have much to do
with the design of this DB...

thanks for the query...

regards
IA




Stephane Faroult [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 07/02/2002 14:53:32

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi ,

 this is puzzling me..

 i have following table

 table name = Sierras.
 Columns =
 regno,
 platfrom,
 cost ,
 licence_ref
 renewal_data

 i split this table up into 2:

 1. Softwares
 cols=
 id,
 regno,
 platfrom,

 2. Licences
 id,
 cost ,
 licence_ref,
 renewal_data,

 i have a third table, a link table between softwares and licences

 cols=
 id,
 licence_id,
 software_id
 i want to populate this table with the ids from softwares and licences,
so
 that if joined together 1 row would reflect a row in the old table
sierras.
 What query can i write for this??

 hope all that makes sense!

 regards
 IA

insert into link_table (licence_id, software_id)
select l.id, s.id
from softwares s,
 licences l,
 sierras o
where l.licence_ref = o.licence_ref
  and l.renewal_data = o.renewal_data
  and s.regno = o.regno
  and s.platform = o.platform (in case you would have the same regno on
several platforms :)).

I don't see why you need any 'id' column in the link table.
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Re: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Ray Stell

On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:18:34AM -0800, Kimberly Smith wrote:
 Actually, the heartbeat has been the biggest pain in the but of
 ServiceGuard. 


butt n. The larger or thicker end of an object: the butt of a rifle. 

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RE: export/import errors

2002-02-07 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Quick look in Metalink would suggest that this is a bug, I would report this
to Oracle. I think there is a fix to it.

Lee


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I just did my first export/import and of course I got some errors at the
very end of my import log file.  My problem is I don't have a clue as to
what they are.  Below is the last few lines of the import log file

About to enable constraints...
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
. importing FINANCE's objects into FINANCE
. importing CIM's objects into CIM
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-9: abnormal end of export file
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.POST_IMPORT; END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors


I'm looking in the fine manuals but not finding much.  Any info would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
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RE: What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?

2002-02-07 Thread

I think that it is related to the activity against the DB.
Not only there is more load on the DB but access path that use the
index can default to full table scan if the index is not available
because you are rebuilding it just now.

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 Subject:  What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?
 
 
 We drop and recreate many indexes on our large partitioned fact table in
 our data warehouse nightly.   The amount of data in the table increases
 gradually with time but there aren't huge fluctuations in the amount of
 data in the partitions from day to day.
 
 The problem is that the amount of time that it takes to recreate the
 indexes varies widely.   From 40 minutes to almost three hours.  I am
 inclined to believe that this is a scheduling issue related to the time of
 the day and the day of the week.   I think we may be experiencing
 competition from other batch jobs from other applications.  One
 application, in particular, is sort of a black box because it is not on
 Oracle and it belongs to people who reside in a remote site.
 
 However, I want to make sure I've considered all of the possibilities.
 What factors might influence how long it takes to rebuild indexes on
 existing partitions?
 If I just did some maintenance to split out some data for a new time
 period
 into a new partition, might that make a difference in how long it takes to
 build the indexes?
 
 These indexes are all locally partitioned indexes.
 
 Thanks for any insight you can lend.
 
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 Oracle DBA
 Gelco Information Network
 
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RE: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread

1) lsnrctl stop
RENAME %ORACLE_HOME%\NETWORK\LOG\LISTENER.LOG OLD.LOG
lsnrctl start   

2) see the sample in network\admin\sample.
use trace_level=user (IMHO).

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 -Original Message-
 From: Prakriteswar Santikary [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thu, February 07, 2002 5:09 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: stopiing write to listener.log
 
 Peter,
  
 How do you set the 'Log Rotation' ? From command line utility 'lsnrctl' or
 is there any parameter for listener.ora ? Another thing: How do I track
 the exact SQLs being sent to the Oracle server ? I remember somebody on
 this list gave some hints in this direction. I just don't remember now the
 parameter name that I have to set in the listener.ora (some levl=16 or
 something like that ?)
  
 thanks
 Santi
 
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   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:44 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: stopiing write to listener.log
   
   
   Shibu,
   OK so I now understand a little better your need.
   Of course there is listener OFF (logging_listener=off)
   As I said this really does defeat the point.

   Their are two approaches that spring to mind.
   Log Rotation or writing to a pipe.
   Log Rotation:
   Every x hours stop the listener, rename the file, start the listener
   You can then do stats on normal connections and save just the error
 and startups et al ...
   Writing to a pipe:
   Would mean that you create a pipe alert_SID.ora and have a process
 that would read from the pipe everything but normal connections.
   The disadvantages are 
   - that you may not be able to do this on your NT box.
   - you lose all your stats of cnxs
   Peter

   -Message d'origine-
   De : Shibu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Envoyé : jeudi 7 février 2002 14:15
   À : Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Objet : Re: stopiing write to listener.log
   
   
 
   Hi peter 

   I have thousands of connection in my  db and  listener.log
 is growing very fastly. I  want  to flush it manaually  every time
   I want to either stop it or flush it automatically .My db is
 8.1.7 on win2k
   Do u h ave any solution for this ?

   regards,
   shibu
 
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   Subject: RE: stopiing write to listener.log
 
   Shibu,
   What do you really want?
   Log messages written to
 /u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/log/listener.log
   You could redivert this to /dev/null however this
 defeats the point.
   You can rename it every day and archive off after 14
 days.

   User Failing to connect like
   Microsoft Transaction Server
   Look on the metalink
   Establish a grant to DBA_PENDING_TRANSACTIONS
   HTH
   Peter
   -Message d'origine-
   De : Shibu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Envoyé : jeudi 7 février 2002 11:38
   À : Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Objet : stopiing write to listener.log
   
   
 
   Hi

   How Can i stop Oracle from writing to the file
 listener.log??

   regards,
   shibu
 
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[Q] MS Access to ORACLE migration guide line?

2002-02-07 Thread dist cash

We plan to migrate some of our MS ACCESS database (97/2000) to ORACLE
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RE: export/import errors

2002-02-07 Thread

You have packages with status INVALID.
Correct them and the errors will go away.
Been there.

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 Sent: Thu, February 07, 2002 5:29 PM
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 Subject:  export/import errors
 
 I just did my first export/import and of course I got some errors at the
 very end of my import log file.  My problem is I don't have a clue as to
 what they are.  Below is the last few lines of the import log file
 
 About to enable constraints...
 . importing DIS's objects into DIS
 . importing DRV's objects into DRV
 . importing EDI's objects into EDI
 . importing FINANCE's objects into FINANCE
 . importing CIM's objects into CIM
 . importing DIS's objects into DIS
 . importing DRV's objects into DRV
 . importing EDI's objects into EDI
 IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
  BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
 IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
 ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
 ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
 ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
 ORA-06512: at line 1
 IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
  BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
 IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
 ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
 ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
 ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
 ORA-06512: at line 1
 IMP-9: abnormal end of export file
 IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
  BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.POST_IMPORT; END;
 IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
 ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
 ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
 
 
 I'm looking in the fine manuals but not finding much.  Any info would be
 appreciated.
 
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Re: export/import errors

2002-02-07 Thread Rick_Cale


Dave,

Everyone gets these same errors. If you are not using replication then do
not worry about these errors. If this is all you got then you are
probably good to go.

Rick


   
  
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I just did my first export/import and of course I got some errors at the
very end of my import log file.  My problem is I don't have a clue as to
what they are.  Below is the last few lines of the import log file

About to enable constraints...
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
. importing FINANCE's objects into FINANCE
. importing CIM's objects into CIM
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-9: abnormal end of export file
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.POST_IMPORT; END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors


I'm looking in the fine manuals but not finding much.  Any info would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

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SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.

2002-02-07 Thread Krishan Gupta

Hi Oracle Gurus

This might be very silly problem for you gyus, but I
am really geting headache. I suppose today my mind is
not working in sync.

I am attatching the script which i wrote. When I try
to execute on sql promp, I get the result like this :


SQL @c:\general\ksg\ProcDisp.sql
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
|==|
|Proc Name Proc Type  
|
|   Arguments Name Pos Data Type  
   IN-OUT   |
|==|
|ADDCHARGETYPE PROCEDURE  
|
| 
|
|   TVCCHARGETYPE  1VARCHAR2  
IN  |
|   TVCGLNUMBER2VARCHAR2  
IN  |



I would appreciate If you help me getting rid of
following messages :

SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.

I want comments to be /*   */ like only
TIA
Krishan Swarup Gupta


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//
/*Auther: Krishan S Gupta   */
/*Date  : 02-05-2002*/
/*Des   : Procedure Descriptions*/
/*Oracle Ver: Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production*/ 
 
//

set serveroutput on size 10

spool c:\general\ksg\ProcDisp.txt

declare

print_line  Varchar2(100);
param_count number:=0;
calls_count number:=0;  
called_countnumber:=0;

cursor obj_cur (powner in all_arguments.owner%type,
pobject_name in all_arguments.object_name%type) 
is
select distinct owner, object_name, 
package_name, argument_name, 
position, sequence, data_type, in_out
from all_arguments 
where owner = powner
and   object_name = pobject_name
order by owner, object_name, position;


begin
 
dbms_output.put_line('|==|');
 dbms_output.put_line('|Proc Name Proc Type
   |');
 dbms_output.put_line('|   Arguments Name Pos Data Type
  IN-OUT   |');
 
dbms_output.put_line('|==|');

 for r_cur_obj in (select distinct owner,name,type 
   from all_source 
   where owner = 'TC' and type in ('PROCEDURE','FUNCTION'))
 loop

 print_line := '|' || rpad(r_cur_obj.name,30,' ') || 
rpad(r_cur_obj.type,12,' ') || '|';

 dbms_output.put_line(print_line);

 dbms_output.put_line('|   
   |');

 for r_cur_param in obj_cur(r_cur_obj.owner, r_cur_obj.name)
 loop

   print_line := '|   ';

   if (r_cur_obj.type = 'FUNCTION' and r_cur_param.POSITION = 0) 
THEN

   print_line := print_line || rpad('Return Type',35,' ')  
   || ' ' ||  
   rpad(r_cur_param.DATA_TYPE,30,' ')  
   || ' ' ||  
   rpad(r_cur_param.IN_OUT,8,' ')  
   || '|' ;

   else

   print_line := print_line || rpad(r_cur_param.ARGUMENT_NAME,30,' 
') || ' ' || 
   
rpad(to_char(r_cur_param.POSITION),4,' ')  || ' ' ||  
   rpad(r_cur_param.DATA_TYPE,30,' ')  
   || ' ' ||  
   rpad(r_cur_param.IN_OUT,8,' ')  
   || '|' ;

end if;

dbms_output.put_line(print_line);

 end loop;

 dbms_output.put_line('|   
   |');

 /* procedure or functions it calls */

 calls_count := 0;

 for r_dep in (select * from all_dependencies 
 

Re: Remote Compromise in Oracle

2002-02-07 Thread James Howerton

Ray,

Yes take a look at http://otn.oracle.com/deploy/security/alerts.htm
they have workarounds posted with yesterdays date.

...JIM...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/7/02 9:55:18 AM 

The post here yesterday on this topic was underwelming:

NGSSoftware Insight Security Research Advisory

Name:Oracle Remote Compromise
Systems Affected:  Oracle 9, 8
Platforms:  All Operating Systems
Severity:  High Risk
Vendor URL:   http://www.oracle.com/ 
Author:   David Litchfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Date:   6th February 2002
Advisory number: #NISR06022002A
Advisory URL:  http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/oraplsextproc.txt 

Does Oracle Corp have a response on this?
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RE: export/import errors

2002-02-07 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

I just opened a low level TAR on these errors just to make sure my data is ok.

Thanks,

Dave

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Quick look in Metalink would suggest that this is a bug, I would report this
to Oracle. I think there is a fix to it.

Lee


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I just did my first export/import and of course I got some errors at the
very end of my import log file.  My problem is I don't have a clue as to
what they are.  Below is the last few lines of the import log file

About to enable constraints...
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
. importing FINANCE's objects into FINANCE
. importing CIM's objects into CIM
. importing DIS's objects into DIS
. importing DRV's objects into DRV
. importing EDI's objects into EDI
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.CLEANUP_IMPORT('EXPORT:V08.01.07'); END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors
ORA-06508: PL/SQL: could not find program unit being called
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG_INTERNAL, line 726
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG, line 86
ORA-06512: at line 1
IMP-9: abnormal end of export file
IMP-00017: following statement failed with ORACLE error 4068:
 BEGIN  SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_MIG.POST_IMPORT; END;
IMP-3: ORACLE error 4068 encountered
ORA-04068: existing state of packages has been discarded
ORA-04063: package body SYS.DBMS_REPCAT_SNA_UTL has errors


I'm looking in the fine manuals but not finding much.  Any info would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
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RE: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Dejam, Ruth

I'll second this.  I worked with Sun a few years ago at another place.  
Here, we're an HP shop with 2 OPS clusters (2 node and 4 node).  
We finally moved our straggler Compaq cluster to HP a couple of months ago.
  
I'll caveat by saying that we do have a couple of well seasoned SAs and 
DBAs so it's all been pretty easy to setup and we've found it to be very
reliable.  

hth,
~Ruth

Beware of the lollipop of mediocrity. 
One lick and you'll suck forever.

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 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Re: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters
 
 Stay with HP Serviceguard!  From experience, I rank HA solutions in this
 order:
 
 1. HP serviceguard - easy and it works.
 2. IBM HACMP - do it the way IBM wants it and it works.
 3. Sun Cluster - get a high paid consultant to set it up and have them
 come back to change it :)  Better yet, go with Veritas Trusted Cluster.
 
 Just my $.02.  I know some Sun ppl on this list will disagree, but if they
 worked in a HP env maybe not :)
 
 Gene
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/02 08:23PM 
 Hi...
  I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
 MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. If a DBA/SA
 team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard clusters on HP
 and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...
 
 a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun clusters (ex: about
 5
 minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a cluster,
 disk
 sharing etc..)
 
 b) Any differences between these... What are the things to watch out for
 (assuming the team already knows in and out of  MC/Serviceguard)
 
 Thank you in advance...
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RE: What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?

2002-02-07 Thread Cherie_Machler


Yechiel,

There is no other activity in this warehouse database while the index
builds are being done.
The users access is shut off, no batch jobs for this database are running,
and the nightly
data loads have already finished.

Thanks,

Cherie


   
   
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I think that it is related to the activity against the DB.
Not only there is more load on the DB but access path that use the
index can default to full table scan if the index is not available
because you are rebuilding it just now.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 We drop and recreate many indexes on our large partitioned fact table in
 our data warehouse nightly.   The amount of data in the table increases
 gradually with time but there aren't huge fluctuations in the amount of
 data in the partitions from day to day.

 The problem is that the amount of time that it takes to recreate the
 indexes varies widely.   From 40 minutes to almost three hours.  I am
 inclined to believe that this is a scheduling issue related to the time
of
 the day and the day of the week.   I think we may be experiencing
 competition from other batch jobs from other applications.  One
 application, in particular, is sort of a black box because it is not on
 Oracle and it belongs to people who reside in a remote site.

 However, I want to make sure I've considered all of the possibilities.
 What factors might influence how long it takes to rebuild indexes on
 existing partitions?
 If I just did some maintenance to split out some data for a new time
 period
 into a new partition, might that make a difference in how long it takes
to
 build the indexes?

 These indexes are all locally partitioned indexes.

 Thanks for any insight you can lend.

 Cherie Machler
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RE: SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.

2002-02-07 Thread Behar, Rivaldi
Title: RE: SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.





Try :


SQL start c:\general\ksg\ProcDisp.sql


Rivaldi


-Original Message-
From: Krishan Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:32 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.



Hi Oracle Gurus


This might be very silly problem for you gyus, but I
am really geting headache. I suppose today my mind is
not working in sync.


I am attatching the script which i wrote. When I try
to execute on sql promp, I get the result like this :



SQL @c:\general\ksg\ProcDisp.sql
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
|==|
|Proc Name Proc Type 
 |
| Arguments Name Pos Data Type 
 IN-OUT |
|==|
|ADDCHARGETYPE PROCEDURE 
 |
| 
 |
| TVCCHARGETYPE 1 VARCHAR2 
 IN |
| TVCGLNUMBER 2 VARCHAR2 
 IN |




I would appreciate If you help me getting rid of
following messages :


SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.
SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.


I want comments to be /* */ like only
TIA
Krishan Swarup Gupta



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Re: Instream SQL

2002-02-07 Thread Venkat Somusetty

Try this:

sqlplus -s EOF
userid/password
sql statements here
...
...
EOF



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Breakable 9i ?

2002-02-07 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

TechRepublic: www.techrepublic.com

BUGS BUST OPEN 'UNBREAKABLE' ORACLE 9i

TODAY'S TOP STORY
U.K. security researcher David Litchfield is expected to unveil several
security flaws in Oracle's flagship 9i database software at the Black Hat
Windows Security Briefings conference in New Orleans Friday. Oracle has
touted its 9i database as unbreakable, but Litchfield claims that last
December he uncovered several flaws that could leave servers loaded with the
9i software vulnerable to hacker control. Litchfield's assertions
have resulted in criticism of Oracle, whose marketing campaign for the 9i
database product focused on its secure status.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-831204.html


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RE: deleting a datafile on OPS

2002-02-07 Thread Miller, Jay

It isn't an OPS issue, you can't drop a datafile without dropping the entire
tablespace.  This has never been possible.

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Hello list,

Oracle 8.1.6.3.0, on HP-UX 11.0, using Oracle Parallel Server (OPS)

According to Oracle, I should be able to drop a datafile that has no data
written to it, but I can not. Neither DBA studio (the garbage can stays
'grayed'), nor the command line (alter tablespace, with the DROP clause)
works. I had immediately taken the datafile offline (I had typed
sbplus_x18.dbf instead of sbplus_x16.dbf for the datafile name to use in
case you are wondering how this turn of events happened in the first place),
and checked all of the books, and Meta-Link. I tried a test on a
non-production machine, no go; even taking the tablespace off-line first
makes no difference. And of course I get errors as one node can not see the
other nodes sbplus_x18.dbf datafile. I tried an 'alter system check
datafiles' to see if this would make the other node happy (as the datafile
is now off-line, this may work), but I need a solution other than exporting
the data, rebuilding the tablespace, then importing the export.

Anyone ever come across this issue ?

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
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OT: Has anyone installed 9i On Win XP Pro

2002-02-07 Thread Gautam_Reddy
Title: Message



Just wanted to know 
if anyone has created a database on Win XP Pro using Oracle 
9i.Gautam 


RE: Unorthodox 8i install/upgrade

2002-02-07 Thread Browett, Darren

I have installed 8.1.7 on a Tru64 5.1 system.  I simply copied the CD's into
separate directories on
our NFS mounts, then logged into the system where I wanted to do the
install, found the
installer program, and ran it.  I don't remember there being any problems.

I did the same thing when I went to patch 8.1.7, I untarrred the patch onto
my NFS mount, 
then I could apply the patch to any of my systems from one central location.

Darren

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Environment:
  Tru64 V5.1 on Alpha 4100/8100
  ORA 8.0.6

I have upgraded our sandbox system to 8.1.7.2 last month, and will be
upgrading several other machines shortly.  The problem is the stage 
ORACLE_HOME mount points have insufficient disk space and our systems folks
have told me that it will be very difficult to add any more space to these
mount points.  There are other mount points that currently have enough
space, so my questions are, has anyone done a 8i/UNIX install/upgrade from a
directory other than under /oracle/stage, or used a symbolic link to
download the CD's contents to another directory? Or broken out the
ORACLE_HOME subdirectories onto more than one mount point?  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike Hand
Polaroid Corp
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DB File Sequential Reads

2002-02-07 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Hi Fellas,

An old SIEBEL application running against a 7.3.4 database on NT. There are
performance issues. A query which runs with in no time on the QA box, takes
2 minutes on the production. Optimizer is set to RULE. The access plan is
the same  on both the boxed for the query. On Production, V$waitstat showed
me lots of waits for 'data blocks', v$system_event showed me waits for 'db
file sequential reads' and 'buffer busy waits'. From v$session_wait, I
tracked this down to a single table. v$filestat shows me lot of physical
reads for the disk where the datafile holding that table resides. The same
table is spread across two datafiles on different drives on the QA, whereas
its spread across a single drive on Production. Increasing the free lists
on the table is also an option I am considering. What I would also like to
know is:

1. How do you monitor I/O activity on an NT Server? Something like sar -d
or iostat on Unix?
2. The status is 'WAITING' in v$session_wait,  but seconds_in_wait is 0. Is
it because TIMED_STATISTICS is set to FALSE?

Thank You for your help.

Raj


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Re: SP2-0103: Nothing in SQL buffer to run.

2002-02-07 Thread Stephane Faroult

Krishan Gupta wrote:
 
 Hi Oracle Gurus
 
 This might be very silly problem for you gyus, but I
 am really geting headache. I suppose today my mind is
 not working in sync.
 
 I am attatching the script which i wrote. When I try
 to execute on sql promp, I get the result like this :
 
 SQL @c:\general\ksg\ProcDisp.sql

Krishan,

  As you must know a '/' in first position of a line reruns the SQL
command which was last run (the contents of the 'SQL buffer') - or
issues the message you have if no SQL command has been run. Some
versions of SQL*Plus seem to check for a '*' behind (no such problem on
my 8.1.7), some do not, and that's what you seem to have ...
 Solution ? Do not start the comment in column 1 ...  If it still
doesn't work, nothing prevents you from writing

-- /* This is a comment */

(I guess you are using some tool to extract comments and generate doc ?)
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RE: deleting a datafile on OPS

2002-02-07 Thread Shantanu Talukder

Jay is absolutely right. Paul, if you would like to
know more about your datafile issue go to
'metalink.oracle.com' and check out 'Note:111316.1',
which will explain everything about datafile re-org.



--- Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It isn't an OPS issue, you can't drop a datafile
 without dropping the entire
 tablespace.  This has never been possible.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello list,
 
 Oracle 8.1.6.3.0, on HP-UX 11.0, using Oracle
 Parallel Server (OPS)
 
 According to Oracle, I should be able to drop a
 datafile that has no data
 written to it, but I can not. Neither DBA studio
 (the garbage can stays
 'grayed'), nor the command line (alter tablespace,
 with the DROP clause)
 works. I had immediately taken the datafile offline
 (I had typed
 sbplus_x18.dbf instead of sbplus_x16.dbf for the
 datafile name to use in
 case you are wondering how this turn of events
 happened in the first place),
 and checked all of the books, and Meta-Link. I tried
 a test on a
 non-production machine, no go; even taking the
 tablespace off-line first
 makes no difference. And of course I get errors as
 one node can not see the
 other nodes sbplus_x18.dbf datafile. I tried an
 'alter system check
 datafiles' to see if this would make the other node
 happy (as the datafile
 is now off-line, this may work), but I need a
 solution other than exporting
 the data, rebuilding the tablespace, then importing
 the export.
 
 Anyone ever come across this issue ?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Paul Sherman
 DBA
 voice -  781-501-4143 (office)
 fax-  781-278-8341 (office)
 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: Oracle and Document Management: any real stories?

2002-02-07 Thread Marin Dimitrov



- Original Message -

 TOPIC: Oracle and Document Management: any real stories or information?

 Does anyone have any experience with Oracle and Document Management that
 they're willing to share? [I'm cross-posting to Oracle Apps and Oracle
 Server.]


check Oracle Internet File System - it provides check-in/check-out  and
versioning functionality, access control, several interfaces to access the
content

http://technet.oracle.com/products/ifs/content.html


hth,

Marin


...what you brought from your past, is of no use in your present. When
you must choose a new path, do not bring old experiences with you.
Those who strike out afresh, but who attempt to retain a little of the
old life, end up torn apart by their own memories. 




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RE: Has anyone installed 9i On Win XP Pro

2002-02-07 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)
Title: Message



I did, but I haven't done much with it yet. I think I used version 
9.0.1.0.0, not the current release.

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  9:21 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  OT: Has anyone installed 9i On Win XP Pro
  Just wanted to 
  know if anyone has created a database on Win XP Pro using Oracle 
  9i.Gautam 


RE: export/import on the same server

2002-02-07 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Rachel and everyone else,

Thanks much for your help in helping me do my first import/export.  It actually worked 
the first time like I hoped it would.  I went with the import by user schema.  Got a 
couple of errors at the end of my import on some Replication procedures that are 
invalid but I don't use replication(yet).  I will fix those errors when time permits.  
Again, thanks to all.

Dave

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yes that should work because you aren't doing a full db import which is
the only way you can destroy the files.

I might do ignore=y as well

are you going to drop the users first, drop just their objects or only
truncate the objects?

if you drop the users, you will need to recreate them or the import
will  load everything into mylogin

for safety's sake, I'd probably run the import once for each user, and
have fromuser= and touser= in the parfile


--- Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for their help.  Since these are the same schema I
 see no reason why to do a full import.  Anyway, I am in learning mode
 and need to learn about possible parameters to use.  I am going to do
 an
 owner import from my full export file since I only need a few of the
 owners schema's.  I'll first creat my PARFILE like
 
 FILE=C:\my_export_file.dmp
 FROMUSER=(dorkboy,geekgirl,sheep_lover,monkey_spanker)
 GRANTS=Y
 INDEXES=Y
 
 
 Then do a
 
 SET ORACLE_SID=my_test_db
 
 then
 
 IMP my_login/my_dirty_pwd parfile=my_parfile.dat
 
 My login to test is different from my live database login so I should
 be
 covered there.  Does this look like it will work so that it will not
 try
 to write to the datafiles of my live database?  Remember, the file I
 am
 importing into my test database is an export from my live database
 which
 both reside on the same server but have their data on different
 drives.
 
 Thanks much everyone,
 
 Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:10 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 unless I am misreading the 9i docs (see below) this has nothing to do
 with transportable tablespaces
 
 If you use DESTROY=Y and a full database import, Oracle will
 overwrite
 the datafiles as defined in the create tablespace statement that is
 in
 the dump file. It's the equivalent of issuing:
 
 create tablespace tbsname datafile 'prod file name' reuse;
 
 From the 9i Utilities manual:
 
 Specifies whether or not the existing datafiles making up the
 database
 should be reused. That is, specifying DESTROY=y causes Import to
 include the REUSE option in the datafile clause of the CREATE
 TABLESPACE statement, which causes Import to reuse the original
 database's datafiles after deleting their contents. 
 
 Note that the export file contains the datafile names used in each
 tablespace. If you specify DESTROY=y and attempt to create a second
 database on the same system (for testing or other purposes), the
 Import
 utility will overwrite the first database's datafiles when it creates
 the tablespace. In this situation you should use the default,
 DESTROY=n, so that an error occurs if the datafiles already exist
 when
 the tablespace is created. Also, when you need to import into the
 original database, you will need to specify IGNORE=y to add to the
 existing datafiles without replacing them. 
 
 
 
 --- àãø_éçéàì [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Dave
  
  I checked the docs.
  It seems to me that destroy is associated with
 transport_tablespaces.
  If you transport tablespaces destroy=y means overwrite old data
 files
  with the same name.
  
  In regular import the @database set the target database.
  
  Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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   Sent: Tue, February 05, 2002 4:21 PM
   To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject:  export/import on the same server
   
   I have a question on the export/import utility.  I have my
  live(PROD)
   and test(TEST) databases are on the same server.  These are
  basically
   the same schemas except that the data in TEST is old and that the
   datafiles for PROD are on I: drive and the datafiles for TEST are
  on E:
   drive.
   My question is, since these are on the same server do I have to
  worry
   about which data files will be written to during the import.  For
   example;
   I do a full export of my PROD database.  When I do my import into
  my
   TEST database will the data automatically go to E: drive or will
 it
   still be pointing to I: drive?  I am reading the Import section
 of
  the
   fine manual but am a bit confused on the datafiles part of it
 when
  doing
   a full export/import.  Do I need to use the DESTROY=N parameter?
   I am new to this utility but want to learn it.  I am reading the
  manuals
   and some other reading material but still am not clear on this. 
 I
 

RE: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters





Were you only running a single heartbeat connection?

Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doing linear scans over an associative array is like
trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi.
 - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) 


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Rama,

 We did the MC/ServiceGuard thing some years ago. Worked 
well, after our SA
rebuilt the servers from ground 0. Adding it on to an 
existing server is ok,
but somewhat unstable. One item to be VERY careful of. The 
heartbeat cable, in
our case a ethernet thin line, needs to be on a dedicated 
link, preferably a
purchased vs. custom made cable, and protected from accidental 
disconnect. Ours
got disconnected by a contractor working in the computer room 
because it was in
his way. The resulting reboot of the backup server and 
forcible takeover of
the disk farm absolutely destroyed the database. We had more 
file corruption
than I ever could have imagined. Consequently we abandoned 
ServiceGuard  are
going to standby databases instead.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Rama Malladi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2/6/2002 5:23 PM

Hi...
 I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. 
If a DBA/SA
team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard 
clusters on HP
and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...

a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun 
clusters (ex: about 5
minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a 
cluster, disk
sharing etc..)

b) Any differences between these... What are the things to 
watch out for
(assuming the team already knows in and out of MC/Serviceguard)

Thank you in advance...
Rama

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RE: Unorthodox 8i install/upgrade

2002-02-07 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

We have followed the HP model and set up a software distribution
(HP calls it a Software Depot) node.  

We copy the CDs into appropriate directories as the Oracle 
administrator.  Then we allow NFS mounts of the SD node file
systems and install from the SD node.  We also are running Samba
here and install the Oracle clients from this node as well.

Works like a charm.  Yes, it's a little slower than a local CD,
but it's much easier to use and administrate.  Between distributions
for HP, Solaris, and Windows, and versions 7.x, 8.x, 8i, 8iR2, 
8iR3 and 9i, I was a more a librarian than DBA.

When we install, each ORACLE_HOME is a different mount point (on
UNIX).  We use the OFA model, slightly modified.  Individual mount
points look like this:

Volume Group  Mount Point
  ---
vgora /ofa/u01/app/oracle
vgora /ofa/u01/app/oracle/product/x.x.x
vgora /ofa/u01/app/oracle/product/y.y.y
vgsid1/ofa/u01/oradata/SID1
vgsid1/ofa/u02/oradata/SID1
vgsid2/ofa/u01/oradata/SID2
vgsid2/ofa/u02/oradata/SID2
(etc etc etc)...you get the picture, right?  It makes
refreshing easier, too.  You can down a single database, say SID1,
and use cpio to copy the files to the refresh system, and not
hinder the running of the other SIDs.

I wish I could claim credit for this strategy 'cause it works
well for us, but it's been a team effort and is still very much
a work in progress.

Just my $0.02.

Mike

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I have installed 8.1.7 on a Tru64 5.1 system.  I simply copied the CD's into
separate directories on
our NFS mounts, then logged into the system where I wanted to do the
install, found the
installer program, and ran it.  I don't remember there being any problems.

I did the same thing when I went to patch 8.1.7, I untarrred the patch onto
my NFS mount, 
then I could apply the patch to any of my systems from one central location.

Darren

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Environment:
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  ORA 8.0.6

I have upgraded our sandbox system to 8.1.7.2 last month, and will be
upgrading several other machines shortly.  The problem is the stage 
ORACLE_HOME mount points have insufficient disk space and our systems folks
have told me that it will be very difficult to add any more space to these
mount points.  There are other mount points that currently have enough
space, so my questions are, has anyone done a 8i/UNIX install/upgrade from a
directory other than under /oracle/stage, or used a symbolic link to
download the CD's contents to another directory? Or broken out the
ORACLE_HOME subdirectories onto more than one mount point?  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike Hand
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Advanced Queueing

2002-02-07 Thread YTTRI Lisa

Hi - 

Is anybody using Oracle's AQ feature with MQ Series?  If so, please contact
me, I have some questions on what is needed - ie. Gateway from MQ, Gateway
from Oracle.

Thank you!


Lisa Yttri
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RE: What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?

2002-02-07 Thread

Hello Cherie

Your talk about other applications made me think that you allowed the DB
to be accessed during this time.

Anyway, I think that you need to monitor CPU, I/O, page faults
and all the other nice things in the machine.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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 Yechiel,
 
 There is no other activity in this warehouse database while the index
 builds are being done.
 The users access is shut off, no batch jobs for this database are running,
 and the nightly
 data loads have already finished.
 
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 I think that it is related to the activity against the DB.
 Not only there is more load on the DB but access path that use the
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 because you are rebuilding it just now.
 
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  Subject:   What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?
 
 
  We drop and recreate many indexes on our large partitioned fact table in
  our data warehouse nightly.   The amount of data in the table increases
  gradually with time but there aren't huge fluctuations in the amount of
  data in the partitions from day to day.
 
  The problem is that the amount of time that it takes to recreate the
  indexes varies widely.   From 40 minutes to almost three hours.  I am
  inclined to believe that this is a scheduling issue related to the time
 of
  the day and the day of the week.   I think we may be experiencing
  competition from other batch jobs from other applications.  One
  application, in particular, is sort of a black box because it is not on
  Oracle and it belongs to people who reside in a remote site.
 
  However, I want to make sure I've considered all of the possibilities.
  What factors might influence how long it takes to rebuild indexes on
  existing partitions?
  If I just did some maintenance to split out some data for a new time
  period
  into a new partition, might that make a difference in how long it takes
 to
  build the indexes?
 
  These indexes are all locally partitioned indexes.
 
  Thanks for any insight you can lend.
 
  Cherie Machler
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RE: Unorthodox 8i install/upgrade

2002-02-07 Thread Ji, Richard

I did the same thing too.  One of the advantage is when all of my servers
are at a data center physically located else where.  I don't need to phone
up a DC operator and have the CD put into the tray.

Richard

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I have installed 8.1.7 on a Tru64 5.1 system.  I simply copied the CD's into
separate directories on
our NFS mounts, then logged into the system where I wanted to do the
install, found the
installer program, and ran it.  I don't remember there being any problems.

I did the same thing when I went to patch 8.1.7, I untarrred the patch onto
my NFS mount, 
then I could apply the patch to any of my systems from one central location.

Darren

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Environment:
  Tru64 V5.1 on Alpha 4100/8100
  ORA 8.0.6

I have upgraded our sandbox system to 8.1.7.2 last month, and will be
upgrading several other machines shortly.  The problem is the stage 
ORACLE_HOME mount points have insufficient disk space and our systems folks
have told me that it will be very difficult to add any more space to these
mount points.  There are other mount points that currently have enough
space, so my questions are, has anyone done a 8i/UNIX install/upgrade from a
directory other than under /oracle/stage, or used a symbolic link to
download the CD's contents to another directory? Or broken out the
ORACLE_HOME subdirectories onto more than one mount point?  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike Hand
Polaroid Corp
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TFM

2002-02-07 Thread April Wells

We are getting ready to sign a contract with Oracle for Financials.  I have
been looking for the manuals so I can read up on what their suggestions are
for installation, tuning... for the 3000+ tables and associated other back
end stuff... anyone know where they can be found.  I can find some on Oracle
Apps Net, but not really the kind of stuff I am looking for... are their
other?

April Wells
Oracle DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas

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Re: STATSPACK impact?

2002-02-07 Thread Shaibal Talukder

REF: PG 3 MARCH/APRIL 2000
DBAs can set specific level of running statspack. Level 0 Level 5 does not impact resource usage that much so that you notice the difference. But Oracle warns not to run Level 10 cause it is marked as resource intensive.
Level 10 Statspack collects all statistics from level 0 and level 5 as well as child-latch information.
Level 5 is the default.
Hope this helps.
Shaibal

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Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:01:36 -0800 
 
I have run it as frequently as once per hour, 
often times just 2 or 3 times per day - morning, noon, close of business. 
 
I have never seen any performance impact, and I don't believe there 
will be any unless you change the default level of statistics gathering. 
 
-Joe 
 
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 12:47:48 -0800 
Thomas Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
 
  Just curious, but if your shop uses STATSPACK, could you tell me how 
  frequently you run it, 
  particularly in your OLTP databases; and whether you've noticed any 
  performance issues with 
  generating frequent STATSPACK snapshots? 
  
  Thanks. 
  
   
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Re:RE: Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i ??

2002-02-07 Thread Shaibal Talukder

Dick,
Even if you take export/import route it should be fine. As far as the rowid is concerned it should be the same as rowid in version 8. so logically there will be a conversion of the row-ids from older format(v 7.3.4) to the new format( v 8 or v 9), and nothing is needed to be done explicitly, whenever a table is being accessed by the user for the first time after the migration, row-ids will be converted to ne format implicitly. I have not migrated to 9 from 7.3.4. Still on 8.1.7.
Shaibal

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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 06:23:42 -0800 
 
Kirti, 
 
 I believe the question is: is there any way to migrate from 7.3.4 directly 
to 9i. Assuming that to be correct the answer obviously is no, unless you want 
to take the export/import route. The reason is that in migrating from 7x to 8x 
the rowid's in the database went through a major change that you can't bypass. 
 
Dick Goulet 
 
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Not to my knowledge. But there are other 3rd party tools to unload and load 
data. 
Any particular reason to not use what's provided by Oracle? 
 
- Kirti 
 
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Hi 
Is there any Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i availabel ? 
, other than provided by Oracle , 
 
Thx 
Sameer 
 
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RE: Unorthodox 8i install/upgrade

2002-02-07 Thread Bellows, Bambi

Ditto here.  Me too!  Me too!  Me too!

Bambi.

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I did the same thing too.  One of the advantage is when all of my servers
are at a data center physically located else where.  I don't need to phone
up a DC operator and have the CD put into the tray.

Richard

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I have installed 8.1.7 on a Tru64 5.1 system.  I simply copied the CD's into
separate directories on
our NFS mounts, then logged into the system where I wanted to do the
install, found the
installer program, and ran it.  I don't remember there being any problems.

I did the same thing when I went to patch 8.1.7, I untarrred the patch onto
my NFS mount, 
then I could apply the patch to any of my systems from one central location.

Darren

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Environment:
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  ORA 8.0.6

I have upgraded our sandbox system to 8.1.7.2 last month, and will be
upgrading several other machines shortly.  The problem is the stage 
ORACLE_HOME mount points have insufficient disk space and our systems folks
have told me that it will be very difficult to add any more space to these
mount points.  There are other mount points that currently have enough
space, so my questions are, has anyone done a 8i/UNIX install/upgrade from a
directory other than under /oracle/stage, or used a symbolic link to
download the CD's contents to another directory? Or broken out the
ORACLE_HOME subdirectories onto more than one mount point?  Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN

2002-02-07 Thread kevin wang

  Hi, Rafiq
  Thank you for your advise, and thanks everyone, the handsome guys, reply
me.
  You are right, it seems like a High Water Mark problem, after lots of
other try,
  finally I drop that table and re-create that table, copy data, build PK
index,
  analyzed in same way as before, and test the performance,
  the SQL statement is as fast as we expected.
  The select count(*) from table_name is still slower than the good guy,
but much faster than before.
  As a problem, it is fixed now.

  But I still don't understand how can the stupid HWM make such a slow-down
on performance?
  I did lots of tests, I am sure there is nothing to do with
analyze,SGA,session_wait,resource.
  On both two databases, that table and its PK index use one extent on
different tablespace on different datafile.
  Actually, the table in the good performance database has the same HWM as
the bad performance buy.
  I mean, re-create table can fix the problem, but, the problem is not only
with the HWM.
  I will do some further investigation.

  thanks a lot,

  Kevin Wang



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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:18 PM


 Try to reduce High Water Mark on your table by
 creating as select a backup table
 truncate original table
 insert into original table from backup table...

 This is based on your info for full table scan...Please also rebuild
indexes
 on that table and analyze table if you are on COST BASED..

 HTH,
 Regards
 Rafiq




 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:45:44 -0800

 Hi, Bill

 You are right, there is really something to do with the index.
 I dropre-created that PK index, it became much faster, but after 5
minutes,
 it became slow again, and I am sure no records insert/delete/update
 happened. I dropre-created that indexes again, nothing happened this
time,
 it is still slow!
 It is really weird!

 And I found on the bad performance database,  a simplest query: select
 count(*) from table_namewill take 4 seconds!
 the explain_plan said it used cost-optimizer, using fast_full_index_scan
on
 that PK index,
 what should I do with the index? I already tried to re-created the PK
index.

 The bad performance database is on a super-box, 4 CPUs and more memory.
the
 good performance one is on a normal box.
   And the table and index is analyzed at same way.

   thanks a lot for your reply.


Kevin Wang



- Original Message -
From: Bill Zakrzewski
To: kevin wang
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN


Kevin,

Have these indexes been rebuilt recently?  If not, you may want to
 consider rebuilding the indexes.  Not sure if this is your issue, but if
you
 have inserted/deleted records from your tables over time, the index levels
 may have grown as well.

~
Bill Zakrzewski
Senior Consultant
Intactus Technology, Inc.

  - Original Message -
  From: kevin wang
  To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:43 PM
  Subject: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN


Hi, guys

The problem belows is really make me confused and gave me big
 trouble, is there someone can give me some hlep?

I have two databses, same version(oracle 8.1.6),same O/S(win2000),
 same schema structure, different data(but small difference of size).
and even exactly same explain_plan of my sql query.
But on one database, the cardinality of one PK index access upon
one
 table is 27(cost=2,card=27,bytes=756) (table rows 263758)
and the other is 11706 (cost=3,card=11706,bytes=199002)( table
 rows 351173).
so, on one DB the sql query took 300ms, one the other, it took 5
 seconds!

Any advise is highly appreciated.

thanks,

Kevin Wang
Database Administrator
Vivonet Canada Inc.







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RE: stopiing write to listener.log

2002-02-07 Thread Chuan Zhang

SHibu,
 
  In lsnrctl, set log_status=off.
 
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Re: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

2002-02-07 Thread Jared Still


I'm amazed that failover doesn't seem to be any more robust or
reliable than the first time I worked with it 8 years ago, on some
platforms anyway.

Jared

On Thursday 07 February 2002 08:55, Dejam, Ruth wrote:
 I'll second this.  I worked with Sun a few years ago at another place.
 Here, we're an HP shop with 2 OPS clusters (2 node and 4 node).
 We finally moved our straggler Compaq cluster to HP a couple of months ago.

 I'll caveat by saying that we do have a couple of well seasoned SAs and
 DBAs so it's all been pretty easy to setup and we've found it to be very
 reliable.

 hth,
 ~Ruth

 Beware of the lollipop of mediocrity.
 One lick and you'll suck forever.

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  Stay with HP Serviceguard!  From experience, I rank HA solutions in this
  order:
 
  1. HP serviceguard - easy and it works.
  2. IBM HACMP - do it the way IBM wants it and it works.
  3. Sun Cluster - get a high paid consultant to set it up and have them
  come back to change it :)  Better yet, go with Veritas Trusted Cluster.
 
  Just my $.02.  I know some Sun ppl on this list will disagree, but if
  they worked in a HP env maybe not :)
 
  Gene
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/02 08:23PM 
 
  Hi...
   I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
  MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. If a DBA/SA
  team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard clusters on
  HP and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...
 
  a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun clusters (ex:
  about 5
  minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a cluster,
  disk
  sharing etc..)
 
  b) Any differences between these... What are the things to watch out for
  (assuming the team already knows in and out of  MC/Serviceguard)
 
  Thank you in advance...
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Re: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN

2002-02-07 Thread Jared Still


Re the HWM causing a slowdown:

A needle in a haystack is much easier to find
when the haystack has been removed.

Jared

On Thursday 07 February 2002 13:06, kevin wang wrote:
   Hi, Rafiq
   Thank you for your advise, and thanks everyone, the handsome guys, reply
 me.
   You are right, it seems like a High Water Mark problem, after lots of
 other try,
   finally I drop that table and re-create that table, copy data, build PK
 index,
   analyzed in same way as before, and test the performance,
   the SQL statement is as fast as we expected.
   The select count(*) from table_name is still slower than the good
 guy, but much faster than before.
   As a problem, it is fixed now.

   But I still don't understand how can the stupid HWM make such a slow-down
 on performance?
   I did lots of tests, I am sure there is nothing to do with
 analyze,SGA,session_wait,resource.
   On both two databases, that table and its PK index use one extent on
 different tablespace on different datafile.
   Actually, the table in the good performance database has the same HWM as
 the bad performance buy.
   I mean, re-create table can fix the problem, but, the problem is not only
 with the HWM.
   I will do some further investigation.

   thanks a lot,

   Kevin Wang



 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:18 PM

  Try to reduce High Water Mark on your table by
  creating as select a backup table
  truncate original table
  insert into original table from backup table...
 
  This is based on your info for full table scan...Please also rebuild

 indexes

  on that table and analyze table if you are on COST BASED..
 
  HTH,
  Regards
  Rafiq
 
 
 
 
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:45:44 -0800
 
  Hi, Bill
 
  You are right, there is really something to do with the index.
  I dropre-created that PK index, it became much faster, but after 5

 minutes,

  it became slow again, and I am sure no records insert/delete/update
  happened. I dropre-created that indexes again, nothing happened this

 time,

  it is still slow!
  It is really weird!
 
  And I found on the bad performance database,  a simplest query: select
  count(*) from table_namewill take 4 seconds!
  the explain_plan said it used cost-optimizer, using fast_full_index_scan

 on

  that PK index,
  what should I do with the index? I already tried to re-created the PK

 index.

  The bad performance database is on a super-box, 4 CPUs and more memory.

 the

  good performance one is on a normal box.
And the table and index is analyzed at same way.
 
thanks a lot for your reply.
 
 
 Kevin Wang
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Bill Zakrzewski
 To: kevin wang
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:38 PM
 Subject: Re: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN
 
 
 Kevin,
 
 Have these indexes been rebuilt recently?  If not, you may want to
  consider rebuilding the indexes.  Not sure if this is your issue, but if

 you

  have inserted/deleted records from your tables over time, the index
  levels may have grown as well.
 
 ~
 Bill Zakrzewski
 Senior Consultant
 Intactus Technology, Inc.
 
   - Original Message -
   From: kevin wang
   To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:43 PM
   Subject: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN
 
 
 Hi, guys
 
 The problem belows is really make me confused and gave me big
  trouble, is there someone can give me some hlep?
 
 I have two databses, same version(oracle 8.1.6),same O/S(win2000),
  same schema structure, different data(but small difference of size).
 and even exactly same explain_plan of my sql query.
 But on one database, the cardinality of one PK index access upon

 one

  table is 27(cost=2,card=27,bytes=756) (table rows 263758)
 and the other is 11706 (cost=3,card=11706,bytes=199002)( table
  rows 351173).
 so, on one DB the sql query took 300ms, one the other, it took 5
  seconds!
 
 Any advise is highly appreciated.
 
 thanks,
 
 Kevin Wang
 Database Administrator
 Vivonet Canada Inc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN

2002-02-07 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Kevin,
select count(*) from table_name

This was the key on the basis of that I suggested this solution...Your Test 
definately don't have that high water mark...
As regard still some slowness, check for number of extents and it is 
sizing...If more extents 'select counts' goes for full table scan and takes 
longer...If extents are rightly sized and minimum in numbers performance 
shall be better for select count


Regards
Rafiq





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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:06:49 -0800

   Hi, Rafiq
   Thank you for your advise, and thanks everyone, the handsome guys, reply
me.
   You are right, it seems like a High Water Mark problem, after lots of
other try,
   finally I drop that table and re-create that table, copy data, build PK
index,
   analyzed in same way as before, and test the performance,
   the SQL statement is as fast as we expected.
   The select count(*) from table_name is still slower than the good 
guy,
but much faster than before.
   As a problem, it is fixed now.

   But I still don't understand how can the stupid HWM make such a slow-down
on performance?
   I did lots of tests, I am sure there is nothing to do with
analyze,SGA,session_wait,resource.
   On both two databases, that table and its PK index use one extent on
different tablespace on different datafile.
   Actually, the table in the good performance database has the same HWM as
the bad performance buy.
   I mean, re-create table can fix the problem, but, the problem is not only
with the HWM.
   I will do some further investigation.

   thanks a lot,

   Kevin Wang



- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:18 PM


  Try to reduce High Water Mark on your table by
  creating as select a backup table
  truncate original table
  insert into original table from backup table...
 
  This is based on your info for full table scan...Please also rebuild
indexes
  on that table and analyze table if you are on COST BASED..
 
  HTH,
  Regards
  Rafiq
 
 
 
 
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:45:44 -0800
 
  Hi, Bill
 
  You are right, there is really something to do with the index.
  I dropre-created that PK index, it became much faster, but after 5
minutes,
  it became slow again, and I am sure no records insert/delete/update
  happened. I dropre-created that indexes again, nothing happened this
time,
  it is still slow!
  It is really weird!
 
  And I found on the bad performance database,  a simplest query: select
  count(*) from table_namewill take 4 seconds!
  the explain_plan said it used cost-optimizer, using fast_full_index_scan
on
  that PK index,
  what should I do with the index? I already tried to re-created the PK
index.
 
  The bad performance database is on a super-box, 4 CPUs and more memory.
the
  good performance one is on a normal box.
And the table and index is analyzed at same way.
 
thanks a lot for your reply.
 
 
 Kevin Wang
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Bill Zakrzewski
 To: kevin wang
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:38 PM
 Subject: Re: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN
 
 
 Kevin,
 
 Have these indexes been rebuilt recently?  If not, you may want to
  consider rebuilding the indexes.  Not sure if this is your issue, but if
you
  have inserted/deleted records from your tables over time, the index 
levels
  may have grown as well.
 
 ~
 Bill Zakrzewski
 Senior Consultant
 Intactus Technology, Inc.
 
   - Original Message -
   From: kevin wang
   To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:43 PM
   Subject: question on EXPLAIN_PLAN
 
 
 Hi, guys
 
 The problem belows is really make me confused and gave me big
  trouble, is there someone can give me some hlep?
 
 I have two databses, same version(oracle 8.1.6),same O/S(win2000),
  same schema structure, different data(but small difference of size).
 and even exactly same explain_plan of my sql query.
 But on one database, the cardinality of one PK index access upon
one
  table is 27(cost=2,card=27,bytes=756) (table rows 263758)
 and the other is 11706 (cost=3,card=11706,bytes=199002)( table
  rows 351173).
 so, on one DB the sql query took 300ms, one the other, it took 5
  seconds!
 
 Any advise is highly appreciated.
 
 thanks,
 
 Kevin Wang
 Database Administrator
 Vivonet Canada Inc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Bitmap Indexes

2002-02-07 Thread Post, Ethan

Posted on behalf of a friend...


Fellow Oracle data warehouse DBAs (if this isn't you, you can delete this
note now):
 I have a question regarding Oracle's bitmap indexes.  We have been DABBLING
with bitmap indexes with mixed results here.  In
many cases, they are great solutions.  In some cases, where we have a mix of
bitmap and b-tree indexes on the same table, we occasionally get into
trouble --- this has to do with the  Oracle optimizer deciding, on the fly,
to convert a regular b-tree index into a bitmap.  It does this so that it
can AND or OR the various bitmap indexes together.  Sounds great on the
surface but when this occurs, response time goes in the toilet.  

In one situation we have, we have a fact table with two bitmap indexes and a
few other b-tree indexes.  A particular query we run bogs down (NEVER
COMPLETES) with this mix of indexes.  Based on the access path that's being
chosen, we know which b-tree index is being converted on the fly.  If we
convert that b-tree index into a bitmap (so we now have 3 bitmap indexes and
Oracle does not need to create the third one on the fly), the query really
runs well.  If we replace the bitmap indexes with b-tree indexes (so we only
have b-tree indexes), we get decent response times.  (This is all on Oracle
8.1.7.2.0, by the way.)

I'm wondering if the rest of you data warehouse DBAs have gone whole hog
with bitmap indexes.  My testing shows that when Oracle doesn't have to
create a bitmap index on the fly, the queries respond wonderfully.  So, I'm
wondering if our dabbling is actually a bad validation approach and,
instead, we should be 'running' with LOTS bitmap indexes instead of
'crawling' with only a few of them.  In other words, maybe we're not taking
all of our medication, as someone else put it recently.

Any insight would be most appreciated.  I'm not looking for insight on the
query I have used as an example.  I'm looking for a generalized answer that
says, Yes, if you start using bitmap indexes, you should go TOTALLY to
bitmap indexes or, Hmmm, we're using some bitmap indexes and some b-tree
indexes and don't have the problem you have.
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Re:Breakable 9i ?

2002-02-07 Thread dgoulet

I really hate it when someone like Uncle Larry makes a claim like this.  Sure
enough that one claim will spur someone to find a hole that they can then rub
into everyone's face.  It's kind of like tossing lit matches at a can of
gasoline, sooner or later your going to get burned.  It's just a matter of time.

Dick Goulet

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TechRepublic: www.techrepublic.com

BUGS BUST OPEN 'UNBREAKABLE' ORACLE 9i

TODAY'S TOP STORY
U.K. security researcher David Litchfield is expected to unveil several
security flaws in Oracle's flagship 9i database software at the Black Hat
Windows Security Briefings conference in New Orleans Friday. Oracle has
touted its 9i database as unbreakable, but Litchfield claims that last
December he uncovered several flaws that could leave servers loaded with the
9i software vulnerable to hacker control. Litchfield's assertions
have resulted in criticism of Oracle, whose marketing campaign for the 9i
database product focused on its secure status.
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-831204.html


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RE: Oracle and Document Management: any real stories?

2002-02-07 Thread Todd Carlson

Internet File System
Separate product, but free.

Todd


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TOPIC: Oracle and Document Management: any real stories or information?

Does anyone have any experience with Oracle and Document Management that
they're willing to share? [I'm cross-posting to Oracle Apps and Oracle
Server.]

The past 5 years, I've been hearing about how Oracle 
(1) is a document management system 
and/or
(2) integrates quickly and easily with popular document management
systems

We've tried the usual approaches and can't get any lists or info from
Oracle
(Metalink, Forums, Tars, tech docs) as to details. The Forum messages
(we're
not the first) don't even get answered. Our records manager also has
been
sold on the idea that Oracle has magical document management
capabilities
(and that's why I'm writing to Oracle Apps also just in case one of
those
products IS the document management system!).

I have researched a little each year.  To date, I have concluded that
Oracle
COULD BE USED for document management, if N programmers create M lines
of
code.  (Or the users learn SQL for BLOBS)

Also I have concluded that if Oracle integrates with popular document
management systems, either it is the base for the system (hidden under
OEM
relabeling) or it is only integrated if N programmers create a different
M
lines of code. (Or the users learn SQL for BLOBS)

We are running Apps 11i, I'm the DBA and my users are trying to convice
me
that there's either some profile setting or ini param and all I have to
do
is hit that switch and we'll be operating a document management system
and
the users won't have to learn SQL for BLOBS to use it!  Is that true or
not?

Stories, comments, ideas are welcome.  Thanks in advance!

 

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Re:Bitmap Indexes

2002-02-07 Thread dgoulet

Ethan,

Our data warehouse has both bit map and b-tree indexes and we normally do
not have a problem.  One headache we do have is that one of the indexes is on a
column that accumulates a lot on new values each time the warehouse is loaded
which really makes a mess of the load process, namely it takes way too long.
 The answer is to drop the bitmap indexes before loading new data and then
rebuilding them afterwards.  Come to think of it that may be part of the reason
why the bit maps don't cause a problem.  Since a bit map index is only usable by
the cost based optimizer and the user who built the warehouse refuses to compute
the statistics on those indexes, so their not in use.

Interesting, I'll have to do some experimenting now!!

Dick Goulet

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Posted on behalf of a friend...


Fellow Oracle data warehouse DBAs (if this isn't you, you can delete this
note now):
 I have a question regarding Oracle's bitmap indexes.  We have been DABBLING
with bitmap indexes with mixed results here.  In
many cases, they are great solutions.  In some cases, where we have a mix of
bitmap and b-tree indexes on the same table, we occasionally get into
trouble --- this has to do with the  Oracle optimizer deciding, on the fly,
to convert a regular b-tree index into a bitmap.  It does this so that it
can AND or OR the various bitmap indexes together.  Sounds great on the
surface but when this occurs, response time goes in the toilet.  

In one situation we have, we have a fact table with two bitmap indexes and a
few other b-tree indexes.  A particular query we run bogs down (NEVER
COMPLETES) with this mix of indexes.  Based on the access path that's being
chosen, we know which b-tree index is being converted on the fly.  If we
convert that b-tree index into a bitmap (so we now have 3 bitmap indexes and
Oracle does not need to create the third one on the fly), the query really
runs well.  If we replace the bitmap indexes with b-tree indexes (so we only
have b-tree indexes), we get decent response times.  (This is all on Oracle
8.1.7.2.0, by the way.)

I'm wondering if the rest of you data warehouse DBAs have gone whole hog
with bitmap indexes.  My testing shows that when Oracle doesn't have to
create a bitmap index on the fly, the queries respond wonderfully.  So, I'm
wondering if our dabbling is actually a bad validation approach and,
instead, we should be 'running' with LOTS bitmap indexes instead of
'crawling' with only a few of them.  In other words, maybe we're not taking
all of our medication, as someone else put it recently.

Any insight would be most appreciated.  I'm not looking for insight on the
query I have used as an example.  I'm looking for a generalized answer that
says, Yes, if you start using bitmap indexes, you should go TOTALLY to
bitmap indexes or, Hmmm, we're using some bitmap indexes and some b-tree
indexes and don't have the problem you have.
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RE: What impacts index build times on partitioned tables?

2002-02-07 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Please check following
Are you creating indexes with parallel clause or not?
Are you using unrecoverable/nologging or not
Is your sort_area_size is ok?
What type of TEMP tablespace are you using with temp file or datafile
and sizing of extents are proper?
Is your target tablespace is not that much fragmented?

Regards
Rafiq

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Yechiel,

There is no other activity in this warehouse database while the index
builds are being done.
The users access is shut off, no batch jobs for this database are running,
and the nightly
data loads have already finished.

Thanks,

Cherie



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I think that it is related to the activity against the DB.
Not only there is more load on the DB but access path that use the
index can default to full table scan if the index is not available
because you are rebuilding it just now.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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  We drop and recreate many indexes on our large partitioned fact table in
  our data warehouse nightly.   The amount of data in the table increases
  gradually with time but there aren't huge fluctuations in the amount of
  data in the partitions from day to day.
 
  The problem is that the amount of time that it takes to recreate the
  indexes varies widely.   From 40 minutes to almost three hours.  I am
  inclined to believe that this is a scheduling issue related to the time
of
  the day and the day of the week.   I think we may be experiencing
  competition from other batch jobs from other applications.  One
  application, in particular, is sort of a black box because it is not on
  Oracle and it belongs to people who reside in a remote site.
 
  However, I want to make sure I've considered all of the possibilities.
  What factors might influence how long it takes to rebuild indexes on
  existing partitions?
  If I just did some maintenance to split out some data for a new time
  period
  into a new partition, might that make a difference in how long it takes
to
  build the indexes?
 
  These indexes are all locally partitioned indexes.
 
  Thanks for any insight you can lend.
 
  Cherie Machler
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Re:RE: Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i ??

2002-02-07 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Shaibal,

whenever a table is being accessed by the user for the first time after the 
migration, row-ids will be converted to ne format implicitly.

To avoid this situation, just after migration from 7.3.4 to 8i, we normally 
export full database to a null device so that this issue may be avoided 
during application usage...

Regards
Rafiq



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Dick,
Even if you take export/import route it should be fine. As far as the rowid is concerned it should be the same as rowid in version 8. so logically there will be a conversion of the row-ids from older format(v 7.3.4) to the new format( v 8 or v 9), and nothing is needed to be done explicitly, whenever a table is being accessed by the user for the first time after the migration, row-ids will be converted to ne format implicitly. I have not migrated to 9 from 7.3.4. Still on 8.1.7.
Shaibal

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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 06:23:42 -0800

Kirti,

 I believe the question is: is there any way to migrate from 7.3.4 directly
to 9i. Assuming that to be correct the answer obviously is no, unless you want
to take the export/import route. The reason is that in migrating from 7x to 8x
the rowid's in the database went through a major change that you can't bypass.

Dick Goulet

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Not to my knowledge. But there are other 3rd party tools to unload and load
data.
Any particular reason to not use what's provided by Oracle?

- Kirti

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Hi
Is there any Migration utility from 7.3.4 to 9i availabel ?
, other than provided by Oracle ,

Thx
Sameer

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