Re: Oracle and NAS (more Q's)

2002-07-16 Thread Binley Lim


How do you do backups? 

Do you use RMAN with MML? Do you use NDMP?

Tia.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/02 08:28a.m. 
Dick,

We're using Netapp F720's to store all our datafiles (production and
test) in a small/medium OLTP environment and are quite happy with the
setup. YMMV.

We run out of two sets of collocated servers. At each collocation
there are at least two filers and at least two servers. The filers and
the servers currently have three 100BaseT network connections. One
front channel and two back channels. Each LAN segment is switched.
Thus any server at a location can connect to any filer at that
location. Datafiles can be spread across filers or spread across
channels as performance requires.

The WAFL does indeed write to the nearest available inode and relinks
the inode map.  The unlinked inode is immediately available for
rewrite unless it is a member of a snapshot.  Thus while reserving
unlinked blocks is inefficient from a storage perspective, it is a
factor you get to control by controlling the snapshots.

-rje


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Re: Your password!

2002-07-16 Thread farkasb


password.txt
Description: Binary data


[no subject]

2002-07-16 Thread RAHUL GAJANAN MEHENDALE

SET ORACLE-L NOMAIL

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RE: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )

2002-07-16 Thread G Sanjay



Hi,

Use 
this

DROP 
DATABASE LINK name;

Or 
if you have created public link then..

DROP 
PUBLIC DATABASE LINKname;

Sanjay

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  dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )
  HI AMJAD,
  HOW TO DROP THE DATABASE 
  LINK.
  
  ANAND
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  LIMITED
  
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:43 
PM
Subject: RE: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 
)

CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE 
LINK dblink CONNECT TO user IDENTIFIED 
BY password USING 'connect_string'
Regards,
Amjad.
www.medicomsoft.com

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  Hi all,
  How to Create dblink, can u please explain 
  me.
  
  bye
  Anand
  
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PM
Subject: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 
)
hii have 3 databases(A,B,X) on 3 diff boxes.i 
have created 1 dblink each from A to X  from B to X.The syntax 
for dblink creation is exactly same for both dblinks.I am able 
to query from dblink A-X as "select * from user.table@dblinkAX"but when i 
try to query from dblink B-X as "select * fromuser.table@dblinkBX"i get the 
foll errorError: ORA-02019: connection description for remote 
database not foundWhen i modify my query by suffixing '.world' 
as"select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED]" , 
the query works fine.I have compared the entries in 
init,sqlnet,tnsnmames,listener files on bothA  Bdatabases 
and they are absolutely similar .i was thinking that the domain or 
globalnames parameters might be diff on A B ,but they are 
absolutely same .any suggestions are most welcome 
...thanks in 
advanceratnesh---Ratnesh 
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To create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.

2002-07-16 Thread Denham Eva
Title: To create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.





Hello Gurus


Which is the better policy:
Say you have five datafiles of 1GB in size each, now the total freespace is less than 10%.
Would it be wise to increase the datafiles to 2GB or would it be better for the system to add a sixth datafile?


Would appreciate any views on this point.
Rgds
Denham Eva
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SQL Loader

2002-07-16 Thread Sackwitz, Antje

Hi, 
can anyone please help with SQL Loader? I want to migrate a personal
calendar from Sybase to Oracle.
Template records in my Sybase bcp dump are 
20020101Jan  1 2002 12:00:00:000AM  3   Tuesday 1   1
1   January 1   20022002
20020102Jan  2 2002 12:00:00:000AM  4   Wednesday   2
1   1   January 1   20022002

My Oracle-table has following columns:

table Calendar
(
  Date_int  numbernot null,
  Date_date   datenot null,
  Weekday_int   numbernot null,
  Weekday_str   varchar2(16)   not null,
  DayOfYear_int numbernot null,
  Week_intnumbernot null,
  Month_int   numbernot null,
  Month_str   varchar2(16)   not null,
  Quarter_int numbernot null,
  Year_int numbernot null,
  YearOfWeek_int numbernot null
)
How does my controlfile have to look?
Especially with the date_format. Can I just provide the psotitions and leave
out the Milliseconds and AM and PM values?

Regards,
Antje

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Re: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future

2002-07-16 Thread Yechiel Adar

Can you send more details:
Which mainframe, what type of systems,
how many machines, staff reduction, costs etc

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Actually they were replaced in my previous company :  Not XP though but
W2K
 !!!

 On Monday 15 July 2002 09:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oh yes, and mainframes will all be replaced by XP next year as well.
 
 
 
 
 
  ltiu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Please respond to ORACLE-L
 
 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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  Subject:Re: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future
 
 
  But do all these matter though? Everyone's moving to MS software and
  *nixes
  are getting rarer and rarer. The fact is that everyone's losing money
  (Sun,
  IBM, HP, SGI even RedHat and Caldera) - except MS. It's an MS world like
  it
  or not.
 
  ltiu
 
  On Monday 15 July 2002 08:33, Andrey Bronfin wrote:
   Good bet that smaller Unix vendors will run to Linux before vendors
 
  like
 
   Sun do.
   Not exactly , just look at homepages of sun , ibm , oracle .
   There are more appearences of the word linux there than any word in
   Britannica ;-)
  
  
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Re: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Yechiel Adar

Hello Eric

I think that you misunderstood.
snip
| Ellison probably took the money and ran when this
| became apparent to him and many others.  I know I did.

So (regardless of whether Ellison is a good example, or not),
do you think that there should be *any* accountability for the social
damage caused by greed driven unethical accounting practices?
/snip

He wrote about investors that have stock and sell them when they see that
the market sink. What this have to do with shady or outright criminal
accounting practices?

I agree with you that whoever is responsible for cooking the books should
have to pay, from his own money, all the people that got hurt by this.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 trying again...

 --- Forwarded message follows ---
 Responsibility / Re: OT
 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:39 -0400



 | Original Message:
 | -
 | From: Johnson, M=2E
 | Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:21 -0800
 | To: ORACLE-L@fatcity=2Ecom
 | Subject: RE: McCain on Larry Ellison and Corporate
 Responsibility / Re: =
 OT


 | Not defending Ellison for anything,=20

 Understood


 | but it appears
 | McCain is just another politician who is only interested
 | in his future and he constantly takes on these reform
 | ideas  and just makes the matter worse


 That sounds really cynical to me. Are you just speculating, or
 do you have
 any info to back that up?

 Note that Oracle/Ellison attempted to buy off politicians here
 in
 Sacramento in order to stop the JLAC (legislative) audit of
 Oracle's ELA
 with the State of California

 Note that Senator Sarbanes was on the same TV program (Meet
 the Press) as
 McCain, and generally agreed with McCain that there is a
 horrible lack of
 corporate responsibility, and that reforming the institutions
 designed to
 protect the public's interests has been made extremely
 difficult by the
 influence of corrupt lobbyists and lack of effective campaign
 reform

 Tim Russert (a rare TV journalist with some integrity) and the
 Senators
 spent most of their time discussing the issue of putting
 executive stock
 options on the expense sheets so as to more correctly
 reflect
 profitability (or lack thereof)

 Do you think it better serves the investment community for
 sleazy corrupt
 executives to be able to hide their shenanighans from analysts
 and
 investors?


 | Everyone should accept the fact that we are in a bear
 | market and as such all the boats go down


 Argh, that is the problem, when you have these outrageous
 examples of
 greedy, corrupt corporate executives cashing out (***AFTER
 COOKING THE
 BOOKS***), leaving others to sink


 | Everyone should have been smart enough to sell stocks and
 | put their money into cash or better yet short stocks
 | when it was very clear that in the Fall of 2000 after the
 | initial March 2000 sell off that we were going into
 | a prolonged Bear market


 Should have been !?!?!

 That isn't really the issue. As mentioned above, the issue was
 how excess
 greed played out when the books were cooked to create a
 false impression
 of profitability


 | Ellison probably took the money and ran when this
 | became apparent to him and many others.  I know I did.


 So (regardless of whether Ellison is a good example, or not),
 do you think
 that there should be *any* accountability for the social
 damage caused by
 greed driven unethical accounting practices?

 (fwiw, I'm sympathetic to libertarian/Chicago school free
 market
 ideology, but I fear that like its opposite, leftist
 utopianism, when taken
 to extremes, it doesn't work all that well in the real
 world.)

 regards,
 ep


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:53 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 OT - unix


 My understanding is that this was the very first time Ellison
 had ever sol=
 d
 Oracle stock, in over 25 years of the company's existence, in
 2000, which =
 is
 the occasion that McCain (and you) are referring to=2E  As you
 might be aw=
 are,
 there was a far greater opportunity for Ellison to cash
 out and leave
 Oracle dangling in 1990, when the price dropped from around
 $20 to $6 almo=
 st
 overnight after some financial-earning restatements=2E  On
 that occasion, =
 he
 would certainly have had prior knowledge of what was going to
 happen, to p=
 ut
 it mildly=2E  In 2000, any foreknowledge of a long-term
 downturn (26 month=
 s
 and counting?) would have been worth far more than $700m,
 especially to
 someone holding several billions in equities=2E=2E=2E

 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ORACLE-
 L@fatcity=2Ecom
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:13 PM
 unix


  Speaking of herds, or at least what is left behind on
  the ground after they pass:
 
  on Meet the Press (TV program), Senator John McCain
  said that Larry Ellison cashed out $700,000,000 of his
  Oracle 

RE: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )

2002-07-16 Thread Amjad



drop 
public database link dblink

dear 
anand iam sorry to say this but such things u can always look up in the 
documentation...
no 1 
will spoon feed u to such a level
if its 
something more logical problem or something that is new we r always here to help 
each other out , after all this list is made to help each 
other...
i hope 
u can understand...

thanx 
and regards,
Amjad.
www.medicomsoft.com


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  recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 
  )
  HI AMJAD,
  HOW TO DROP THE DATABASE 
  LINK.
  
  ANAND
  ITW SIGNODE INDIA 
  LIMITED
  
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From: 
Amjad 

To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:43 
PM
Subject: RE: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 
)

CREATE PUBLIC DATABASE 
LINK dblink CONNECT TO user IDENTIFIED 
BY password USING 'connect_string'
Regards,
Amjad.
www.medicomsoft.com

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  ( ORA-02019 )
  Hi all,
  How to Create dblink, can u please explain 
  me.
  
  bye
  Anand


RE: To create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.

2002-07-16 Thread Vikas Khanna
Title: To create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.



In 
this case anything would do. Better would be to expand the already mentioned 
dfiles as the Sixth datafile would be placed on to some H.Disk and then I/O 
contention to that disk would increase. Better is to redistribute the load among 
the various datafiles. 

If you 
have one hard disk then it would not matter at all between the two different 
scenarios.

Vikas 
Khanna 


  -Original Message-From: Denham Eva 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:53 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: To 
  create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.
  Hello Gurus 
  Which is the better policy: Say you have five datafiles of 1GB in size each, now the 
  total freespace is less than 10%. Would it 
  be wise to increase the datafiles to 2GB or would it be better for the system 
  to add a sixth datafile? 
  Would appreciate any views on this point. 
  Rgds Denham 
  Eva Oracle DBA 
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Re: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )

2002-07-16 Thread Shreepad . Vaidya


Hi,

Use
Drop database link  name. (if the link is a private link and u are the
owner)
Drop public database link name.


Hope this helps
  shreepad


   

  Anand Kumar N -  

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  Please respond to

  ORACLE-L 

   

   




HI AMJAD,
HOW TO DROP THE DATABASE LINK.

ANAND
ITW SIGNODE INDIA LIMITED

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   Subject: RE: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )

   CREATE  PUBLIC DATABASE LINK dblink CONNECT TO user IDENTIFIED BY
   password USING 'connect_string'

   Regards,
   Amjad.
   www.medicomsoft.com http://www.medicomsoft.com

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  Subject: Re: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )


  Hi all,
  How to Create dblink, can u please explain me.

  bye
  Anand

 - Original Message -
 From: Ratnesh Kumar Singh mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:23 PM
 Subject: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )

 hi

 i have 3 databases(A,B,X) on 3 diff boxes.
 i have created 1 dblink each from A to X  from B to X.
 The syntax for dblink creation is exactly same for both dblinks.

 I am able to query from dblink A-X  as select * from
 user.table@dblinkAX mailto:user.table@dblinkAX
 but when i try to query from dblink B-X as select * from
 user.table@dblinkBX mailto:user.table@dblinkBX
 i get the foll error
 Error: ORA-02019: connection description for remote database not
 found

 When i modify my query by suffixing '.world' as
 select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , the query works fine.

 I have compared the entries in init,sqlnet,tnsnmames,listener
 files on both
 A  B
 databases and they are absolutely similar .
 i was thinking that the domain or globalnames parameters might be
 diff on A
  B ,
 but they are absolutely same .

 any suggestions are most welcome ...

 thanks in advance
 ratnesh



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Web application and Oracle session

2002-07-16 Thread NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)
Title: Web application and Oracle session





Hi list !


environment : 


userA -connexion- 
userB -connexion- OAS (htp package) - 1 session -- Oracle8i (only 1 application schema)
... ...
userX -connexion-



A web application is accessed by many users throw OAS which use only one session to access the database.
The application was never tested in multi-user context. 
The problem now is that the users complain against the slowness of my database (!!)
I test the sql generated by the application and the response-time seems good.


So, my questions are :
- what's append to the Oracle Session when a user A stop his navigator with the Stop button while a user B is connected ?

- is it simply a lock problem ?
- is it possible to user several Oracle sessions with OAS ?
- any advices or experiences are welcome : how do you manage sessions in web application context ?



thankxx in advance
Philippe











RE: Sun D1000 Storage Box Setup

2002-07-16 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA


Of the Following Supported Software Which would be the Best Choice for SOFTWARE RAID 
0+1 ?

VERITAS Volume Manager software, versions 2.4, 2.5, 2.5.x, and 2.6 
Solstice DiskSuite[tm] software version 4.1 
Sun Cluster 2.1, 2.2 software 

NOTE - Application Leaning MORE of OLTP in nature though some amount of Batch 
processing also happens

Thanks indeed


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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:04 AM
To: LazyDBA.com Discussion


Vivek,

Depending upon the usage of database I may take decision. Also what software
are ou going to use for the raid. Veritas is good in stripping data upto a
good granualarity.

For a one application database I would think of optio n 1 or 2 with software
like veritas with a strioung of 128K in OLTP.
But for data warehous I would have RAID 1 (mirror ) and 6 volumes to strip
my data manually.

HTH
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Given SUN D1000 Storage Box Containing 12 Disks , For Database Layout what
would be the most optimal Setup ?
1) 1 Volume Software RAID 1+0 Containing 6+6 Disks ?
2) 2 Volumes - Each Volume consisting of Software RAID 1+0 Containing 3+3
Disks 
3) 3 Volumes - Each Volume consisting of Software RAID 1+0 Containing 2+2
Disks 
4) Any Other Combination 

NOTE D1000 Storage Box :-
1) Does NOT have a Hardware RAID Controller 
2) Contains HIGH PERFORMANCE JBOD ARRAY
Feature: High Performance JBOD Array (D1000). 
Function: The D1000 has 2 UltraSCSI channels, with 4 UltraSCSI connections.
The Netra st D1000 can be configured with dual 40-MB/second UltraSCSI
Channels. 
Benefit: The servers may access the disk drives as individual storage
components or may use software RAID solutions to aggregate the disk drives
into bigger logical disk volumes. 

For more Details Check :-

http://www.sun.com/storage/workgroup/a1000/details.html

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System Administrator Appreciation Day - Friday - July 26th, 2002

2002-07-16 Thread Andrey Bronfin



ORA-00904 invalid column name and export

2002-07-16 Thread Vladimir Barac - posao

Hi!

I'm doing export across network.

Export is started on Linux server containing 8.1.7.2 enterprise edition
install. Target db is 8.1.7.0 enterprise edition residing on WinNT.

This is what I get at the end of export log

. exporting job queues
EXP-8: ORACLE error 904 encountered
ORA-00904: invalid column name
EXP-0: Export terminated unsuccessfully

What the hell is going on? Is there a way to avoid this? If there is no way,
anyway I would like to know what is going on...

Thanks,
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RE: System Administrator Appreciation Day - Friday - July 26th, 2002

2002-07-16 Thread Farnsworth, Dave



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RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export

2002-07-16 Thread Hately Mike

Vladimir,
you probably just need to rerun your catexp.sql file on the source database.

Regards,
Mike

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Hi!

I'm doing export across network.

Export is started on Linux server containing 8.1.7.2 enterprise edition
install. Target db is 8.1.7.0 enterprise edition residing on WinNT.

This is what I get at the end of export log

. exporting job queues
EXP-8: ORACLE error 904 encountered
ORA-00904: invalid column name
EXP-0: Export terminated unsuccessfully

What the hell is going on? Is there a way to avoid this? If there is no way,
anyway I would like to know what is going on...

Thanks,
Vladimir Barac

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RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export

2002-07-16 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export





Vladimir...


I'd suggest starting the export on the target, the 8.1.7.0 installation.


HTH,
Rich



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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:08 AM
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Subject: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export



Hi!


I'm doing export across network.


Export is started on Linux server containing 8.1.7.2 enterprise edition
install. Target db is 8.1.7.0 enterprise edition residing on WinNT.


This is what I get at the end of export log


. exporting job queues
EXP-8: ORACLE error 904 encountered
ORA-00904: invalid column name
EXP-0: Export terminated unsuccessfully


What the hell is going on? Is there a way to avoid this? If there is no way,
anyway I would like to know what is going on...


Thanks,
Vladimir Barac


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Re: Sun D1000 Storage Box Setup

2002-07-16 Thread Nils Höglund


 Of the Following Supported Software Which would be the Best Choice for SOFTWARE RAID 
0+1 ?
 
 VERITAS Volume Manager software, versions 2.4, 2.5, 2.5.x, and 2.6 
 Solstice DiskSuite[tm] software version 4.1 
 Sun Cluster 2.1, 2.2 software 

It was a long time since I worked with thesee things.

However, for software-raid (1 or 0) with D1000, I think DiskSuite would be
apropiate. It is, if I recall correctly, pretty easy to setup with
commandline utilities.

I think it is also enclosed in Solaris 8.


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Re: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export

2002-07-16 Thread Vladimir Barac - posao
Title: RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export



1. No enough space for 
exports...

2. All exports are on some large drive 
(linux box) from where exports go to the tape...

3. No f!$^% decent shell scripting 
available on NT...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard Huntley 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:13 
PM
  Subject: RE: ORA-00904 invalid column 
  name and export
  
  Vladimir... 
  I'd suggest starting the export on the target, the 8.1.7.0 
  installation. 
  HTH, Rich 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Vladimir Barac - posao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:08 AM To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: 
  ORA-00904 invalid column name and export 
  Hi! 
  I'm doing export across network. 
  Export is started on Linux server containing 8.1.7.2 
  enterprise edition install. Target db is 8.1.7.0 
  enterprise edition residing on WinNT. 
  This is what I get at the end of export log 
  . exporting job queues EXP-8: 
  ORACLE error 904 encountered ORA-00904: invalid column 
  name EXP-0: Export terminated 
  unsuccessfully 
  What the hell is going on? Is there a way to avoid this? If 
  there is no way, anyway I would like to know what is 
  going on... 
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RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export

2002-07-16 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export



Have 
you tried the earlier suggestion that I missed (that should do it)? That 
is to rerun catexp.sql on the source DB. 
Also, 
if you have access to Metalink check out the following 
article:

132904.1 Compatibility Matrix for Export  Import 
Between Different Oracle Versions 

-Original Message-From: Vladimir Barac - posao 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:48 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
ORA-00904 invalid column name and export
1. No enough space for 
exports...

2. All exports are on some large drive 
(linux box) from where exports go to the tape...

3. No f!$^% decent shell scripting 
available on NT...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:13 
PM
  Subject: RE: ORA-00904 invalid column 
  name and export
  
  Vladimir... 
  I'd suggest starting the export on the target, the 8.1.7.0 
  installation. 
  HTH, Rich 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Vladimir Barac - posao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:08 AM To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: 
  ORA-00904 invalid column name and export 
  Hi! 
  I'm doing export across network. 
  Export is started on Linux server containing 8.1.7.2 
  enterprise edition install. Target db is 8.1.7.0 
  enterprise edition residing on WinNT. 
  This is what I get at the end of export log 
  . exporting job queues EXP-8: 
  ORACLE error 904 encountered ORA-00904: invalid column 
  name EXP-0: Export terminated 
  unsuccessfully 
  What the hell is going on? Is there a way to avoid this? If 
  there is no way, anyway I would like to know what is 
  going on... 
  Thanks, Vladimir Barac 
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Re[2]: Oracle and NAS (more Q's)

2002-07-16 Thread Robert Eskridge

We wrote our own scripts to manage consistency.  They manage the
following levels of backup:

1.  Snapshots of datafiles at the primary location.
2.  Standby database at the secondary location.
3.  Tape backup of datafiles at the primary location.
4.  Tape backup of datafiles at the standby location.

BL How do you do backups?

BL Do you use RMAN with MML? Do you use NDMP?

BL Tia.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/02 08:28a.m. 
BL Dick,

BL We're using Netapp F720's to store all our datafiles (production and
BL test) in a small/medium OLTP environment and are quite happy with the
BL setup. YMMV.

BL We run out of two sets of collocated servers. At each collocation
BL there are at least two filers and at least two servers. The filers and
BL the servers currently have three 100BaseT network connections. One
BL front channel and two back channels. Each LAN segment is switched.
BL Thus any server at a location can connect to any filer at that
BL location. Datafiles can be spread across filers or spread across
BL channels as performance requires.

BL The WAFL does indeed write to the nearest available inode and relinks
BL the inode map.  The unlinked inode is immediately available for
BL rewrite unless it is a member of a snapshot.  Thus while reserving
BL unlinked blocks is inefficient from a storage perspective, it is a
BL factor you get to control by controlling the snapshots.


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Re: NOT IN performance problem

2002-07-16 Thread Abul Fazal

Select personid from person
minus
select personid from phonenumber

Fazal
--- Dennis M. Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 select personid from person
 where not exists (select '1' from phonenumber
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 Nils Höglund wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I have encountered a performance problem. I use
 Oracle8 Enterprise Edition
  Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production.
  
  I have two tables. phonenumber and person,
 each person has none, one or
  many phonenumbers referenced to him.
  
  The phonenumber-table is structured like:
  phonenumber.personid
  phonenumber.phonenumber
  
  The person-table is structured like:
  person.personid
  person.name
  person.address
  
  I wan't to know which persons that does NOT have
 any phonenumber(s).
  
  I can write the query as:
  SELECT personid FROM phonenumber WHERE personid
 NOT IN (
 SELECT personid FROM person);
  
  However, since my tables are quite large, it takes
 forever to run my query.
  In the real database both (or
  atleast one) of person or phonenumber are
 views.
  
  To figure out who _does_ have phonenumbers is
 SIGNIFICANTLY faster.
  (SELECT DISTINCT person.personid FROM person,
 phonenumber WHERE
  person.personid=phonenumber.personid)
  
  I'm wondering how I could restructure or rewrite
 my query (who doesn't have
  any phoinenumbers?) to run faster,
  or if there is anything else I can do to optimize
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  Any suggestions?
  
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Please share your experience with RAC on linux:)

2002-07-16 Thread chaos

  hi, dbas: 
We plan to setup a new database on a Linux Cluster, using Oracle 9i RAC 
release 2, with Dell PC Servers (4CPU, 4G memory), to store our online history data 
and provide read only service and some other misc applications. 
So, what i care is: 
1. Which Oracle version to use, release 1 or release 2. Release 1 is certified 
on many platforms with proper hardware and os, but release 2 is relatively new. But 
since oracle supports new version and there is maybe less bugs , i prefer release 2 
version . Can you share your opnion? 
2. Which OS to choose. Suse and Redhat is the oracle prefered version. For 
RAC/OPS support , is suse better than redhat? Or if i choose redhat, shall i choose 
the redhat 7.1(the certified version with rac release 1 on Dell machine) or Redhat 
Advanced Server, or redhat 7.2/7.3? 
3. Has anyone here used RAC in production? Especially on Linux/RAC 
combination? what about your experience? Please share your valuable experience here:), 
thanks. 


Good luck


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Re:RE: dblink problem ( ORA-02019)

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Folks,

Since I recently slammed into this unexpected wall I'll pass along the
experience.  A couple of weeks ago I upgraded an 8.0.5.2.1 instance to 8.1.7 and
subsequently at OTS's request to 8.1.7.4.  To make a long story short most
things with database links worked OK, but a describe across one did not
(ORA-02019).  The problem ended up being a small error in Oracle's INIT
parameter documentation.  Back in 8.0.5.2.1, due to a bug introduced, you needed
to have DB_DOMAIN=.WORLD or DB_DOMAIN=.VICR.COM.  Note the '.' before the
domain.  Well in 8.1.7, or sometime before that, they fixed the bug, but forgot
about those of us who don't always follow the 'yellow brick road'.  So if your
having problems with ORA-02019's take a second and check this parameter in your
init.ora.  I changed mine  the problems went away.

Dick Goulet

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Refer to Oracle docs / oracle SQL reference / DROP ...

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HI AMJAD,
HOW TO DROP THE DATABASE LINK.

ANAND
ITW SIGNODE INDIA LIMITED
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  CREATE  PUBLIC DATABASE LINK dblink CONNECT TO user IDENTIFIED BY password
USING 'connect_string'

  Regards,
  Amjad.
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Hi all,
How to Create dblink, can u please explain me.

bye
Anand
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  Subject: dblink problem ( ORA-02019 )


  hi

  i have 3 databases(A,B,X) on 3 diff boxes.
  i have created 1 dblink each from A to X  from B to X.
  The syntax for dblink creation is exactly same for both dblinks.

  I am able to query from dblink A-X  as select * from
user.table@dblinkAX
  but when i try to query from dblink B-X as select * from
  user.table@dblinkBX
  i get the foll error
  Error: ORA-02019: connection description for remote database not found

  When i modify my query by suffixing '.world' as
  select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED] , the query works fine.

  I have compared the entries in init,sqlnet,tnsnmames,listener files on
both
  A  B
  databases and they are absolutely similar .
  i was thinking that the domain or globalnames parameters might be diff
on A
   B ,
  but they are absolutely same .

  any suggestions are most welcome ...

  thanks in advance
  ratnesh



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RE: To create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.

2002-07-16 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: To create a new datafile or to increase a existing datafile.






Denham,


You haven't mentioned tablespaces. If all five datafiles are for one tablespace, it doesn't matter much. However if each datafile is for a separate tablespace, it would be easier to increase the size of the existing datafiles. Otherwise you would need to move objects to take advantage of the sixth datafile.

Jerry Whittle

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Hello Gurus 


Which is the better policy:
Say you have five datafiles of 1GB in size each, now the total freespace is less than 10%.
Would it be wise to increase the datafiles to 2GB or would it be better for the system to add a sixth datafile? 


Would appreciate any views on this point.
Rgds
Denham Eva
Oracle DBA
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RE: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???

2002-07-16 Thread Jesse, Rich

The kicker with Oracle's certified Linux platforms/versions is if you run
into problems on a non-certified dist and try and get support on a problem
that has nothing to do with what dist or version you're on (like errors in a
shell script in OiD), they won't touch it and won't mark it as a bug to send
to development.  Hell, Support didn't even have a Linux box to verify my
claims!  Apparently, they do now.

Another quirk is that you can install RH7.1 and upgrade everything else
(kernel, libs, desktop, etc.) independently to bring it up to  RH7.3 or
whatever, and it'll still be supported.  Go figure.

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  I would like to solicit real life experiences, educated 
 opinions, accolades
  and criticisms from those of you who have implemented or 
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  We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We 
 have discovered
  that regardless of the Linux distribution  support is generally
  expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' 
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  BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of 
 response and the
  'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical 
 application being
  down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux 
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  'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already
  implemented) by our requesting user community.
  
  Is there a preferred distribution  We already have Red 
 Hat and Suse
  implementations and will choose one of them as the standard 
  'should we
  chose to accept this mission'. I believe that both claim to 
 be the preferred
  distribution by Oracle and that they are 'tier one ports' 
 
 As for Linux distributions?  While Linux is Linux (mostly), 
 you will probably
 have fewer problems listening to Oracle's recommendation than 
 trying to go it
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RE: To create a new data file or to increase a existing data file

2002-07-16 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

We have a standard data file size of 2GB, If it is smaller (for some reason)
we extend it but never  2GB. If it is already 2GB, we add a new data file.

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Denham, 
You haven't mentioned tablespaces. If all five datafiles are for one
tablespace, it doesn't matter much. However if each datafile is for a
separate tablespace, it would be easier to increase the size of the existing
datafiles. Otherwise you would need to move objects to take advantage of the
sixth datafile.
Jerry Whittle 
ACIFICS DBA 
NCI Information Systems Inc. 
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-Original Message- 
Hello Gurus 
Which is the better policy:
Say you have five datafiles of 1GB in size each, now the total freespace is
less than 10%.
Would it be wise to increase the datafiles to 2GB or would it be better for
the system to add a sixth datafile? 
Would appreciate any views on this point.
Rgds
Denham Eva
Oracle DBA
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RE: ORA-00904 invalid column name and export

2002-07-16 Thread Baker, Barbara

 Vladimir:
There is a known problem with this error after applying patchset 8.1.7.2.1
(The fix is supposed to be re-running catalog and catexp).

If you're still having problems, do a full export from the db on Linux to
the null device.  If you still get the error, then you know for sure it's on
the Linux side.

Good luck!
Barb


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 Hi!
 
 I'm doing export across network.
 
 Export is started on Linux server containing 8.1.7.2 enterprise edition
 install. Target db is 8.1.7.0 enterprise edition residing on WinNT.
 
 This is what I get at the end of export log
 
 . exporting job queues
 EXP-8: ORACLE error 904 encountered
 ORA-00904: invalid column name
 EXP-0: Export terminated unsuccessfully
 
 What the hell is going on? Is there a way to avoid this? If there is no
 way,
 anyway I would like to know what is going on...
 
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Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Schauss, Peter

We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?

thanks,

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v$sort_usage

2002-07-16 Thread Walter K

Hi,

Could someone shed some light on how v$sort_usage is 
populated? It is supposed to show active sorts in the 
database. If that is the case then I don't understand 
why I see the following:

1. An entry exists for a user/sort, yet according to 
v$session the session is NOT active.
2. Multiple entries exist for a user with the SAME 
session_addr. I don't understand how a session could 
have multiple sort segments.

As always, you're feedback is appreciated.

Thanks.
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RE: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Storage of numeric data





If you specifically want precision and scale and you know the data entered should be numeric I would make it numeric. 


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We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes. As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).


If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?


thanks,


Peter Schauss
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RE: To create a new data file or to increase a existing data

2002-07-16 Thread Gene Sais

My rule of thumb is 2gb or less for smaller databases, i.e.  100gb and adjust higher 
for larger databases, e.g. 10gb datafiles for 1.3 tb database.  

gene

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We have a standard data file size of 2GB, If it is smaller (for some reason)
we extend it but never  2GB. If it is already 2GB, we add a new data file.

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Denham, 
You haven't mentioned tablespaces. If all five datafiles are for one
tablespace, it doesn't matter much. However if each datafile is for a
separate tablespace, it would be easier to increase the size of the existing
datafiles. Otherwise you would need to move objects to take advantage of the
sixth datafile.
Jerry Whittle 
ACIFICS DBA 
NCI Information Systems Inc. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
618-622-4145 
-Original Message- 
Hello Gurus 
Which is the better policy:
Say you have five datafiles of 1GB in size each, now the total freespace is
less than 10%.
Would it be wise to increase the datafiles to 2GB or would it be better for
the system to add a sixth datafile? 
Would appreciate any views on this point.
Rgds
Denham Eva
Oracle DBA
In UNIX Land
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Jared,

I agree with you, except for when MTS is being used.

Thank you,

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future

2002-07-16 Thread Orr, Steve

Wow Joe, sounds like a religious conviction... 
I'm impressed because I'm of the same persuasion but I'm not quite so
pious/zealous and am still somewhat enslaved to the M$ beast/devil because
of the company usage of Exchange with MS Outlook for Calendar and workflow.
I run Linux on the laptop via VMWare but because of the Outlook dependency,
running Pine, Mozilla or whatever is not a viable email solution for me.
Sigh...

Having run Oracle/Linux servers in production for over a year now I conclude
that the platform is not just viable but is promising. Unix, Linux, and
Windows are part the present with significant installed bases so that also
means they will be part of the future. How long that future will be and how
much future presence there will be is anybody's guess I guess. 

Good and Evil abound.  :-)
Steve Orr



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Thats were you're wrong, i dont use microsoft products, all of my 
development and presentations that i make are non microsoft products.

for IOUG presentations, requirement is to put them in msword and 
powerpoint, i convert from star office to those formatrs and have 
someone proof them so i know the conversion went ok.

so NO I DONT PIRATE software, dont need to since all that i run is free.

And yes feel free to look at the headers of this email, its from mozilla 
on linux. :)

selling my IT manager is easy on linux, since I'm the CTO of Data 
Management Consulting, and selling using linux for development is just 
as easy at client sites.

Outradeious prices absolutely but everywhere i've been they've already 
had oracle in-house so there was no selling to do.

joe


ltiu wrote:

Oracle. It's only free during development/education. Charges will be 
exhorbitant when getting production licenses.

Windows and SQL Server is free too - if you pirate, right? It's what every 
one does : 

Linux is free but trying to sell this to your IT manager is not.

On Sunday 14 July 2002 12:43, Joe Testa wrote:

I dont think the classic unix that you speak of will go away that
fast, too many solaris/aix/hpux machines floating around still.

I do any development/testing of features on linux, it cost me nothing
but the hardware.

RH 7.3 downloaded,  no cost.

technet member 9ir2 oracle downloaded, no cost.

it only makes sense.

joe

Andrey Bronfin wrote:

hi !
i might start another war , but i can't resist a part of me which wants
to
ask :
what do you , seasoned gurus, think of everybody's (as it seems to be)
plans to abandon the classic unix for linux ?
In particular , most database vendors (as well as other enterprise
software vendors) name linux as the future #1 platform for their DBs
(especially given the fact that a DB cluster is not rare any more).
It also looks like many development shops shift their efforts to develop
on windows (or , in some rare cases, linux ) instead of unix .
What do you think about this ?


DBAndrey

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Re: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Jan Pruner

Use VARCHAR2 and don't worry about it. :-)

JP

On Tuesday 16 July 2002 17:48, you wrote:
 We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
 values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
 these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
 important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
 For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

 If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
 that I want or should I use char(5)?

 thanks,

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Re:Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Peter,

For numeric data where you can't exactly define the size  precision use a
plain old number data type.  It's the equivalent of float or double.  I do not
allow numeric data to be stored in a char or varchar field because someone
sooner or later is going to slide the following into the database where
field_name = 0.086 which is equivalent to where to_number(field_name) =
0.086.  The bad point here is that the index I'll be asked to create is now
useless.  

Dick Goulet

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We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?

thanks,

Peter Schauss
Northrop Grumman Corporation
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Re: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Igor Neyman

Peter,

You will get out whatever you put in with just regular NUMBER type.
Format like number(4,3) only controls/constraints the number you write into
this column.  You could use it, if you know in advance that you will never
try to write bigger numbers, or with more significant digits, or you want to
limit numbers written into the column to this format and get error message
otherwise.

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 We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
 values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
 these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
 important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
 For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

 If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
 that I want or should I use char(5)?

 thanks,

 Peter Schauss
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RE: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Schauss, Peter

Dick,

Thanks for the feedback.  At this point it appears that I can hold
the users to a predefined size and precision.  Does Oracle store
fixed point numbers in such a way that you get back exactly what you
entered?

Thanks,
Peter Schauss

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Peter,

For numeric data where you can't exactly define the size  precision use
a
plain old number data type.  It's the equivalent of float or double.  I do
not
allow numeric data to be stored in a char or varchar field because someone
sooner or later is going to slide the following into the database where
field_name = 0.086 which is equivalent to where to_number(field_name)
=
0.086.  The bad point here is that the index I'll be asked to create is now
useless.  

Dick Goulet

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We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?

thanks,

Peter Schauss
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread BALA,PRAKASH (Non-HP-USA,ex1)

Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So could you elaborate why
you use 'kill -9'.

TIA
Prakash

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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Re: Index questions

2002-07-16 Thread CC Harvest

Thanks Don, Your explanation is very helpful.

--- Don Granaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bitmapped indexes will be fast for the queryagainst
 the 'Y's, but a
 bitmapped index may not be appropriate if you are
 getting lots of DML
 activity on this.
 
 Another option is to use NULL instead of the vast
 majority value ('N' - in
 this case) and create an index.  The nulls won't be
 indexed, so the index
 will be small.  This works best when there are
 relatively few non-majority
 values and they are the ones most
 critically/commonly queried.  A hint MAY
 be required to make the CBO use the index.  This
 obviousy won't help on
 queries against 'N' though.  Example, ORDERS table
 with a STATUS column -
 98% 'Closed', 2% ('New' | 'Pending' |
 'Whatever...').  Change the logical to
 interprete NULL as 'Closed' and create an index on
 ORDERS.STATUS.  Queries
 for open orders - ('Closed' | 'Pending' |
 'Whatever...') become very fast.
 
 Don Granaman
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 If we have a column of 'Y','N' values, the index
 will
 not help with CBT(usually most of the values are
 'N').
 
 My question is : how about bitmap indexes? Should it
 help a lot, or just a little bit?
 
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RE: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Nothing wrong using Oracle data type number.

It's perfect for this kind of usage.

Regards,

Waleed

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We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?

thanks,

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RE: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future

2002-07-16 Thread lembark



-- Orr, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/16/02 08:09:23 -0800

 I'm impressed because I'm of the same persuasion but I'm not quite so
 pious/zealous and am still somewhat enslaved to the M$ beast/devil because
 of the company usage of Exchange with MS Outlook for Calendar and workflow.
 I run Linux on the laptop via VMWare but because of the Outlook dependency,
 running Pine, Mozilla or whatever is not a viable email solution for me.
 Sigh...

Try it the other way around and you get better performance: run
VMWare on linux w/ W2K on the VM. Linux does a better job at
multi-tasking and samba works wonderfully for file sharing. 
Add in a touch of portforwarding and a dash of NAT and it comes
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RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Kirsh, Gary

Eric,

Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing?   After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
economy as a whole.  So where would the insider info come into play?  And if
he really did have insider info, and was acting unethically, why not sell
more shares?  The amount he sold was probably less than 5% of his holdings.

I don't mean to defend ceo misconduct, corporate fraud, etc, I just think
you need look this particular accusation  a little more objectively,
especially when you consider its source.  I have great respect for McCain's
war record and heroism, but now he is a politician, a Senator no less.
IMHO, one can't take anything any politician says at face value.  Given a
choice between honesty and self-promotion, I'm afraid politicians too often
choose the latter.  And without getting into specifics about McCain, he
seems to be second in the Senate only to my own Sen. Schumer in his love of
getting on TV (Q: What's the most dangerous place in NY?  A: Between Chuck
Schumer and a TV camera).  Larry makes a convenient and easy target, someone
a politician knows he can attack, get a good soundbite, and have very little
chance of being challenged.

Gary

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trying again...

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Responsibility / Re: OT
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:39 -0400



| Original Message:
| -
| From: Johnson, M=2E
| Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:21 -0800
| To: ORACLE-L@fatcity=2Ecom
| Subject: RE: McCain on Larry Ellison and Corporate 
Responsibility / Re: =
OT


| Not defending Ellison for anything,=20

Understood


| but it appears
| McCain is just another politician who is only interested
| in his future and he constantly takes on these reform
| ideas  and just makes the matter worse


That sounds really cynical to me. Are you just speculating, or 
do you have
any info to back that up?

Note that Oracle/Ellison attempted to buy off politicians here 
in
Sacramento in order to stop the JLAC (legislative) audit of 
Oracle's ELA
with the State of California

Note that Senator Sarbanes was on the same TV program (Meet 
the Press) as
McCain, and generally agreed with McCain that there is a 
horrible lack of
corporate responsibility, and that reforming the institutions 
designed to
protect the public's interests has been made extremely 
difficult by the
influence of corrupt lobbyists and lack of effective campaign 
reform

Tim Russert (a rare TV journalist with some integrity) and the 
Senators
spent most of their time discussing the issue of putting 
executive stock
options on the expense sheets so as to more correctly 
reflect
profitability (or lack thereof)

Do you think it better serves the investment community for 
sleazy corrupt
executives to be able to hide their shenanighans from analysts 
and
investors?


| Everyone should accept the fact that we are in a bear
| market and as such all the boats go down


Argh, that is the problem, when you have these outrageous 
examples of
greedy, corrupt corporate executives cashing out (***AFTER 
COOKING THE
BOOKS***), leaving others to sink


| Everyone should have been smart enough to sell stocks and
| put their money into cash or better yet short stocks
| when it was very clear that in the Fall of 2000 after the
| initial March 2000 sell off that we were going into
| a prolonged Bear market


Should have been !?!?!

That isn't really the issue. As mentioned above, the issue was 
how excess
greed played out when the books were cooked to create a 
false impression
of profitability


| Ellison probably took the money and ran when this
| became apparent to him and many others.  I know I did.


So (regardless of whether Ellison is a good example, or not), 
do you think
that there should be *any* accountability for the social 
damage caused by
greed driven unethical accounting practices?

(fwiw, I'm sympathetic to libertarian/Chicago school free 
market
ideology, but I fear that like its opposite, leftist 
utopianism, when taken
to extremes, it doesn't work all that well in the real 
world.)

regards,
ep


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OT - unix


My understanding is that this was the very first time Ellison 
had ever sol=
d
Oracle stock, in over 25 years of the company's existence, in 
2000, which =
is
the occasion that McCain (and you) are referring to=2E  As you 
might be aw=
are,
there was a far greater opportunity for Ellison to cash 
out and leave
Oracle dangling in 1990, when the price dropped from around 
$20 to $6 almo=
st
overnight after some financial-earning restatements=2E  On 
that occasion, =
he
would certainly have had prior knowledge of what was 

Fwd:Ecora - SQL, IIS versions now available

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Did anyone else on the list get spammed by this other than me?

Dick Goulet

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DBMS_JOB interval wierdness

2002-07-16 Thread Jesse, Rich

Hey all,

I've got a job to gather stats on a schema of an 8.1.6.0.0 DB.  The interval
of the DBMS_JOB is:

TRUNC(SYSDATE)+7+1/24

...but it keeps resubmitting itself every day, instead of once a week.

I *must* be brain dead or this cold's getting the best of me, because I just
can't see what I'm missing.

Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?

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Re:RE: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Peter,

Yes whatever you put in will be what is returned.  I've got about 105
million examples of that to boot.  And although today you can hold the users to
a specific size, what does tomorrow hold?  For the small additional price you'll
pay I'd go with a straight number.



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Dick,

Thanks for the feedback.  At this point it appears that I can hold
the users to a predefined size and precision.  Does Oracle store
fixed point numbers in such a way that you get back exactly what you
entered?

Thanks,
Peter Schauss

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Peter,

For numeric data where you can't exactly define the size  precision use
a
plain old number data type.  It's the equivalent of float or double.  I do
not
allow numeric data to be stored in a char or varchar field because someone
sooner or later is going to slide the following into the database where
field_name = 0.086 which is equivalent to where to_number(field_name)
=
0.086.  The bad point here is that the index I'll be asked to create is now
useless.  

Dick Goulet

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Date:   7/16/2002 7:48 AM

We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?

thanks,

Peter Schauss
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!! Msg From List Owner - Virus !!

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Yes, intrepid listers, our fair list was infected by an insidious virus!

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The Damagement...er... I mean 'Management'

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RE: Storage of numeric data

2002-07-16 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Yes it does.

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Dick,

Thanks for the feedback.  At this point it appears that I can hold
the users to a predefined size and precision.  Does Oracle store
fixed point numbers in such a way that you get back exactly what you
entered?

Thanks,
Peter Schauss

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Peter,

For numeric data where you can't exactly define the size  precision use
a
plain old number data type.  It's the equivalent of float or double.  I do
not
allow numeric data to be stored in a char or varchar field because someone
sooner or later is going to slide the following into the database where
field_name = 0.086 which is equivalent to where to_number(field_name)
=
0.086.  The bad point here is that the index I'll be asked to create is now
useless.  

Dick Goulet

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We have an mechanical CAD application where we will be storing
values like bolt diameter and hole sizes.  As far as I know,
these numbers will not be used in any computations, but it is
important the the number retrieved be exactly what was put in.
For example, if they put in 0.086 the should not get out 0.08599).

If I use a format like number(4,3), will this give me the result
that I want or should I use char(5)?

thanks,

Peter Schauss
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Modelling problem

2002-07-16 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi list

I'm predicting a more philosophical discussion about how to model stuff
arising at work. So I thought it might be a good idea to gather some pros
and cons beforehand (Always good to have some ammunition;).

The problem is about how to deal with look up tables and domain codes.
Aproach a)

Have one big table containing all possible domain types (like gender,
account type, organizational unit etc.) and one even bigger table containing
all the possible values for those domain types. The tables that use these
types actually reference the value they should contain.

Aproach b)

Have standard look up tables for everything, for example have a table like
organizational unit, which will be referenced by tables like employee via
foreign key to link to the unit the emp. actually works for at this moment.

I feel more comfortable about aproach b. Now people might say Why ? and I
might say Normalization ?! and they might say What's that good for if
aproach is much easier to implement and blahblah.

Any ideas regarding pros and cons for both aproaches ?

Regards and TIA,
Stefan


 
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RE: OT - unix vs linux vs windows - the future

2002-07-16 Thread Jesse, Rich

Forwarded from a co-worker:  First the Germans, now the Nordes!

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4406

I'll save my political diatribe of US vs MS for the OT list...  :)

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RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(test, posting from www.mail2web.com)

Gary,

Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
(Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed and
selfishness that they are mired in.

Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in a
way that is transparent to investors?

I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
validity of their accounting.

regards,
ep



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Eric,

Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing?   After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
economy as a whole.  So where would the insider info come into play?  And if
he really did have insider info, and was acting unethically, why not sell
more shares?  The amount he sold was probably less than 5% of his holdings.

I don't mean to defend ceo misconduct, corporate fraud, etc, I just think
you need look this particular accusation  a little more objectively,
especially when you consider its source.  I have great respect for McCain's
war record and heroism, but now he is a politician, a Senator no less.
IMHO, one can't take anything any politician says at face value.  Given a
choice between honesty and self-promotion, I'm afraid politicians too often
choose the latter.  And without getting into specifics about McCain, he
seems to be second in the Senate only to my own Sen. Schumer in his love of
getting on TV (Q: What's the most dangerous place in NY?  A: Between Chuck
Schumer and a TV camera).  Larry makes a convenient and easy target, someone
a politician knows he can attack, get a good soundbite, and have very little
chance of being challenged.

Gary

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trying again...

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Responsibility / Re: OT
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:39 -0400



| Original Message:
| -
| From: Johnson, M=2E
| Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:21 -0800
| To: ORACLE-L@fatcity=2Ecom
| Subject: RE: McCain on Larry Ellison and Corporate 
Responsibility / Re: =
OT


| Not defending Ellison for anything,=20

Understood


| but it appears
| McCain is just another politician who is only interested
| in his future and he constantly takes on these reform
| ideas  and just makes the matter worse


That sounds really cynical to me. Are you just speculating, or 
do you have
any info to back that up?

Note that Oracle/Ellison attempted to buy off politicians here 
in
Sacramento in order to stop the JLAC (legislative) audit of 
Oracle's ELA
with the State of California

Note that Senator Sarbanes was on the same TV program (Meet 
the Press) as
McCain, and generally agreed with McCain that there is a 
horrible lack of
corporate responsibility, and that reforming the institutions 
designed to
protect the public's interests has been made extremely 
difficult by the
influence of corrupt lobbyists and lack of effective campaign 
reform

Tim Russert (a rare TV journalist with some integrity) and the 
Senators
spent most of their time discussing the issue of putting 
executive stock
options on the expense sheets so as to more correctly 
reflect
profitability (or lack thereof)

Do you think it better serves the investment community for 
sleazy corrupt
executives to be able to hide their shenanighans from analysts 
and
investors?


| Everyone should accept the fact that we are in a bear
| market and as such all the boats go down


Argh, that is the problem, when you have these outrageous 
examples of
greedy, corrupt corporate executives cashing out (***AFTER 
COOKING THE
BOOKS***), leaving others to sink


| Everyone should have been smart enough to sell stocks and
| put their money into cash or better yet short stocks
| when it was very clear that in the Fall of 2000 after the
| initial March 2000 sell off that we were going into
| a prolonged Bear market


Should have been !?!?!

That isn't really the issue. As mentioned above, the issue was 
how excess
greed played out when the books were cooked to create a 
false impression
of profitability


| Ellison probably took the money and ran when this
| became apparent to him and many others.  I know I did.


So (regardless of whether Ellison is a good example, or not), 
do you think
that there should be *any* accountability for the social 
damage caused by
greed driven unethical accounting practices?

(fwiw, I'm sympathetic to libertarian/Chicago school free 
market
ideology, but I fear that like its 

RE: !! Msg From List Owner - Virus !!

2002-07-16 Thread kcarney

 I have been away. 

What type of virus? I am still having trouble. 





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Yes, intrepid listers, our fair list was infected by an insidious virus!

Due to the outstanding efforts of our benefactor ( Bruce Bergman, mild 
mannered developer by day, mighty ISP warrior when terror strikes! ) you

may once again freely roam the nether regions of Gotham.

The Damagement...er... I mean 'Management'

Jared

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Using Old version of SQL Navigator 2.0.d with Oracle 9i.

2002-07-16 Thread Dharminder Kumar

I have an OLD version of SQL Navigator 2.0.d, which was compatible with
Oracle 7.3.4. But now I have Oracle 9i installed, but I do not have client
for Oracle 7.3.4. Is there is a way out that I can connect to Oracle using
this SQL navigator.

Thanks.


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Re:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Jesse,

No joke, let me guess, 8am every day, right?  Try TRUNC(SYSDATE+7)+1/24
instead.

Dick Goulet

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Hey all,

I've got a job to gather stats on a schema of an 8.1.6.0.0 DB.  The interval
of the DBMS_JOB is:

TRUNC(SYSDATE)+7+1/24

...but it keeps resubmitting itself every day, instead of once a week.

I *must* be brain dead or this cold's getting the best of me, because I just
can't see what I'm missing.

Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?

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Re: Your password! It's S New Worm W32/Frethem.K@mm

2002-07-16 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Using Win2000Pro, McAfee AV 
and Pegasus Mail 
(http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_winpmail.htm), 
there is no problem.


There is a registry hack (documented 
on the MS KB) 
that turns Outlook XP into a plain text only emailer.


From a guy I know that is MS 
security obsessive:


---excerpt---


| Outlook can also be tamed by ZoneAlarm 
Pro. I limit Outlook's access
| strictly to ports 25 and 110 so 
it can't browse Web pages. Preview pane
| is turned off in the Inbox but the 
three-line display mode is more
| useful anyway.
|
| This is the registry fix that does 
the magic. It requires Office XP/SP1
| to be installed:
| 
| REGEDIT4
| [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office
\10.0\Outlook\Options\Mail] ReadAsPlain=dword:0001
| 
| I don't know why they didn't simply 
put it under Tools/Options in the
| menu system.
...


---end---


The problem of course 
is that many M$-weenie users 
don't know how to make their system resistant to 
virii, not that it can't be done fairly easily. Those 
kind of people are obviously not going suffer through 
installing linux either.


regards,
ep



On 15 Jul 2002 at 14:25, Joe 
Testa wrote:

 gotta love 
it, linux says save to disk?
 
 bwahahaha, 
all ou m$ weenies, vulnerable again.
 
 
 
 MacGregor, 
Ian A. wrote:


...

 Here 
is a quote from the CIAC Heads-Up on this latest worm ...
 
  There 
are reports this morning of DOE sites being hit 
  by 
the W32/Frethem.K@mm worm. 


...




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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work consistently.

kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no prisoners!', whereas
your garden variety kill allows a process to call for a priest, eat a last
meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too much time.

Jared





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Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So could you elaborate why
you use 'kill -9'.

TIA
Prakash

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

IRC, evn with MTS, a busy session should have the PID of the shared server 

associated with it in v$process, and only one session at a time can use 
the
shared server.

Killing it should effect only the session using the SS at that time, and 
MTS
should spawn another.

Nonetheless, I don't recommend doing it.  :)

Jared






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Jared,

I agree with you, except for when MTS is being used.

Thank you,

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Kirsh, Gary

A new boat, Ferrari, Mig fighter jet, mansion, maybe some Japanese art...
the man has some serious expenses.  Seriously, I know that Oracle had a
problem with shady accounting practices many years ago (late 80's, if I
recall correctly).  Their stock took a huge hit, and they cleaned up their
act.  As a result, I think that they have been very conservative in there
accounting practices ever since, and have not heard any accusations of
untoward accounting practices since them.

I admit that I know almost nothing about accounting.  Still, I think it the
height of hypocrisy for politicians to accuse anyone of shady accounting
practices, when, as I understand, the federal govt itself doesn't abide by
the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to which corporations are
expected to adhere.  All the Worldcoms and Enrons added together don't equal
the tax dollars flushed down the toilet due to govt waste, corruption, fraud
and incompetence.  As an example:
http://freedom.house.gov/wastewatch/education.asp

Having ceo's sign off on their company's books seems sensible enough.  I
suspect that when the hot air coming from DC blows over, the investigations
will prove that existing laws have been broken, and there will be criminal
convictions.  Most people don't want to wait for investigations to run their
course, and politicians pander to this lack of attention span with by
pontificating on TV, then passing more laws, which at best are probably
redundant, and at worst have unintended side-effects. 

The politicians, especially Democrats, have also successfully exploited
class-envy with their screw-the-rich-we'll protect-the-little-guy act.  It
usually works well for them, so they take advantage of it at every
opportunity.



Gary

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Gary,

Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
(Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed and
selfishness that they are mired in.

Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in a
way that is transparent to investors?

I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
validity of their accounting.

regards,
ep



Original Message:
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:53:34 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Eric,

Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing?   After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
economy as a whole.  So where would the insider info come into play?  And if
he really did have insider info, and was acting unethically, why not sell
more shares?  The amount he sold was probably less than 5% of his holdings.

I don't mean to defend ceo misconduct, corporate fraud, etc, I just think
you need look this particular accusation  a little more objectively,
especially when you consider its source.  I have great respect for McCain's
war record and heroism, but now he is a politician, a Senator no less.
IMHO, one can't take anything any politician says at face value.  Given a
choice between honesty and self-promotion, I'm afraid politicians too often
choose the latter.  And without getting into specifics about McCain, he
seems to be second in the Senate only to my own Sen. Schumer in his love of
getting on TV (Q: What's the most dangerous place in NY?  A: Between Chuck
Schumer and a TV camera).  Larry makes a convenient and easy target, someone
a politician knows he can attack, get a good soundbite, and have very little
chance of being challenged.

Gary

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


trying again...

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Responsibility / Re: OT
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:39 -0400



| Original Message:
| -
| From: Johnson, M=2E
| Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:21 -0800
| To: ORACLE-L@fatcity=2Ecom
| Subject: RE: McCain on Larry Ellison and Corporate 
Responsibility / Re: =
OT


| Not defending Ellison for anything,=20

Understood


| but it appears
| McCain is just another politician who is only interested
| in his future and he constantly takes on these reform
| ideas  and just makes the matter worse


That sounds really cynical to me. Are you just speculating, or 
do you have
any info to back that up?

Note that Oracle/Ellison attempted to buy off politicians here 
in
Sacramento in order to stop the JLAC (legislative) audit of 
Oracle's ELA
with the State of California

Note that Senator Sarbanes was on the same TV program 

RE: DBMS_JOB interval wierdness

2002-07-16 Thread Jesse, Rich

Nope.  1 PM just like it should, only every day instead of every week.  I've
tried it with the 7 in and out of the TRUNC with the same results.

One other thing I just noticed is that the job returns an error each time it
is run due to bug in DBMS_STATS.  I'm rectifying that now with trapping and
an error table, but I'm still confused as to why it would resub in a day
instead of the interval.

Thx!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:31 AM
 To: Jesse, Rich; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 
 
 Jesse,
 
 No joke, let me guess, 8am every day, right?  Try 
 TRUNC(SYSDATE+7)+1/24
 instead.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply Separator
 Subject:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 Author: Jesse; Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   7/16/2002 9:08 AM
 
 Hey all,
 
 I've got a job to gather stats on a schema of an 8.1.6.0.0 
 DB.  The interval
 of the DBMS_JOB is:
 
 TRUNC(SYSDATE)+7+1/24
 
 ...but it keeps resubmitting itself every day, instead of once a week.
 
 I *must* be brain dead or this cold's getting the best of me, 
 because I just
 can't see what I'm missing.
 
 Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
 
 Rich Jesse
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread mkb

I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

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 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
 much time.
 
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
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 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
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 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:38 PM
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 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
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 Hi. 
 
 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
 transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
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delete from table question

2002-07-16 Thread dmeng

Hi All -
I am trying to delete from a table that has 24 child tables. Because the
constraints are not 'cascade delete', I am hitting the following:

ORA-02292: integrity constraint (NVALET.FK_TOPOGROUPMEMBERNE2) violated -
child
record found

If I want to go ahead and delete the child records as well, there seem to
be 2 options:
1. Write a sql/plsql procedure to delete the child records first before
each deleting each record from the parent table.
2. Recreate the constraints with 'cascade delete' and delete the records
from parent table. After that recreate the constraints again without
cascade delete.

Either option requires some work. Does anybody have a better idea? Also can
anybody have a script to recreate all constraints to share?

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications Corp.

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Re: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Igor Neyman

Not sure about cash for a new boat ,
but I'm sure read, that Ellison is getting his CEO salary in company stocks
(not in cash).
This could explain, him selling stocks, though 700,000,000 seems little
high.
The other point is, that Oracle stock didn't drop overnight - it was going
down gradually (along with the rest of the market) for last two years.

And, no I'm not Larry's defender, just don't like politicians even more.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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(test, posting from www.mail2web.com)

Gary,

Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
(Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed and
selfishness that they are mired in.

Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in a
way that is transparent to investors?

I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
validity of their accounting.

regards,
ep



Original Message:
-
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:53:34 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Eric,

Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing?   After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
economy as a whole.  So where would the insider info come into play?  And if
he really did have insider info, and was acting unethically, why not sell
more shares?  The amount he sold was probably less than 5% of his holdings.

I don't mean to defend ceo misconduct, corporate fraud, etc, I just think
you need look this particular accusation  a little more objectively,
especially when you consider its source.  I have great respect for McCain's
war record and heroism, but now he is a politician, a Senator no less.
IMHO, one can't take anything any politician says at face value.  Given a
choice between honesty and self-promotion, I'm afraid politicians too often
choose the latter.  And without getting into specifics about McCain, he
seems to be second in the Senate only to my own Sen. Schumer in his love of
getting on TV (Q: What's the most dangerous place in NY?  A: Between Chuck
Schumer and a TV camera).  Larry makes a convenient and easy target, someone
a politician knows he can attack, get a good soundbite, and have very little
chance of being challenged.

Gary

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


trying again...

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Responsibility / Re: OT
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:39 -0400



| Original Message:
| -
| From: Johnson, M=2E
| Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:23:21 -0800
| To: ORACLE-L@fatcity=2Ecom
| Subject: RE: McCain on Larry Ellison and Corporate
Responsibility / Re: =
OT


| Not defending Ellison for anything,=20

Understood


| but it appears
| McCain is just another politician who is only interested
| in his future and he constantly takes on these reform
| ideas  and just makes the matter worse


That sounds really cynical to me. Are you just speculating, or
do you have
any info to back that up?

Note that Oracle/Ellison attempted to buy off politicians here
in
Sacramento in order to stop the JLAC (legislative) audit of
Oracle's ELA
with the State of California

Note that Senator Sarbanes was on the same TV program (Meet
the Press) as
McCain, and generally agreed with McCain that there is a
horrible lack of
corporate responsibility, and that reforming the institutions
designed to
protect the public's interests has been made extremely
difficult by the
influence of corrupt lobbyists and lack of effective campaign
reform

Tim Russert (a rare TV journalist with some integrity) and the
Senators
spent most of their time discussing the issue of putting
executive stock
options on the expense sheets so as to more correctly
reflect
profitability (or lack thereof)

Do you think it better serves the investment community for
sleazy corrupt
executives to be able to hide their shenanighans from analysts
and
investors?


| Everyone should accept the fact that we are in a bear
| market and as such all the boats go down


Argh, that is the problem, when you have these outrageous
examples of
greedy, corrupt corporate executives cashing out (***AFTER
COOKING THE
BOOKS***), leaving others to sink


| Everyone should have been smart enough to sell stocks and
| put their money into cash or better yet short stocks
| when it was very clear that in the Fall of 2000 after the
| initial March 2000 sell off that we were going into
| a prolonged Bear market


Should have been 

RE: DBMS_JOB interval wierdness

2002-07-16 Thread kkennedy

When the job aborts, it increments the failures column (until it hits the broken point 
at 16 failures) and resubmits itself with an internally calculated restart time.

From the Oracle Administrators Guide:
If a job returns an error while Oracle is attempting to execute it, Oracle tries to 
execute it again. The first attempt is made after one minute, the second attempt after 
two minutes, the third after four minutes, and so on, with the interval doubling 
between each attempt. When the retry interval exceeds the execution interval, Oracle 
continues to retry the job at the normal execution interval. However, if the job fails 
16 times, Oracle automatically marks the job as broken and no longer tries to execute 
it. 

Works that way here.  I can't say why yours reruns every day at 1PM.  I can say that 
if you trap the error and get a normal completion, your problem is solved.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation 

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Nope.  1 PM just like it should, only every day instead of every week.  I've
tried it with the 7 in and out of the TRUNC with the same results.

One other thing I just noticed is that the job returns an error each time it
is run due to bug in DBMS_STATS.  I'm rectifying that now with trapping and
an error table, but I'm still confused as to why it would resub in a day
instead of the interval.

Thx!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:31 AM
 To: Jesse, Rich; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 
 
 Jesse,
 
 No joke, let me guess, 8am every day, right?  Try 
 TRUNC(SYSDATE+7)+1/24
 instead.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply Separator
 Subject:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 Author: Jesse; Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   7/16/2002 9:08 AM
 
 Hey all,
 
 I've got a job to gather stats on a schema of an 8.1.6.0.0 
 DB.  The interval
 of the DBMS_JOB is:
 
 TRUNC(SYSDATE)+7+1/24
 
 ...but it keeps resubmitting itself every day, instead of once a week.
 
 I *must* be brain dead or this cold's getting the best of me, 
 because I just
 can't see what I'm missing.
 
 Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
 
 Rich Jesse
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Re:RE: DBMS_JOB interval wierdness

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Jesse,

Is this 8.1.6?  If so there's a bug filed against dbms_stats.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: Jesse; Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/16/2002 12:24 PM

Nope.  1 PM just like it should, only every day instead of every week.  I've
tried it with the 7 in and out of the TRUNC with the same results.

One other thing I just noticed is that the job returns an error each time it
is run due to bug in DBMS_STATS.  I'm rectifying that now with trapping and
an error table, but I'm still confused as to why it would resub in a day
instead of the interval.

Thx!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:31 AM
 To: Jesse, Rich; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 
 
 Jesse,
 
 No joke, let me guess, 8am every day, right?  Try 
 TRUNC(SYSDATE+7)+1/24
 instead.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply Separator
 Subject:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 Author: Jesse; Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   7/16/2002 9:08 AM
 
 Hey all,
 
 I've got a job to gather stats on a schema of an 8.1.6.0.0 
 DB.  The interval
 of the DBMS_JOB is:
 
 TRUNC(SYSDATE)+7+1/24
 
 ...but it keeps resubmitting itself every day, instead of once a week.
 
 I *must* be brain dead or this cold's getting the best of me, 
 because I just
 can't see what I'm missing.
 
 Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
 
 Rich Jesse
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Re:RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread dgoulet

Gary,

Well if you know almost nothing about accounting, I'm about 200 ft deeper
into the waters than you and still know almost nothing about accounting as it
turns out.  What is more, I don't even want to get acquainted with the bottom
feeders in this here ocean!  We've always had the saying about Lier's, damned
lier's , and statistics well you had better add accountants to the end cause it
sure is one heck of a mess.  As for politicains, honest politician I believe is
still an oxymoron.  SO the politicians and crooked  CEO's and accountants should
be in good company.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Kirsh; Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/16/2002 10:18 AM

A new boat, Ferrari, Mig fighter jet, mansion, maybe some Japanese art...
the man has some serious expenses.  Seriously, I know that Oracle had a
problem with shady accounting practices many years ago (late 80's, if I
recall correctly).  Their stock took a huge hit, and they cleaned up their
act.  As a result, I think that they have been very conservative in there
accounting practices ever since, and have not heard any accusations of
untoward accounting practices since them.

I admit that I know almost nothing about accounting.  Still, I think it the
height of hypocrisy for politicians to accuse anyone of shady accounting
practices, when, as I understand, the federal govt itself doesn't abide by
the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to which corporations are
expected to adhere.  All the Worldcoms and Enrons added together don't equal
the tax dollars flushed down the toilet due to govt waste, corruption, fraud
and incompetence.  As an example:
http://freedom.house.gov/wastewatch/education.asp

Having ceo's sign off on their company's books seems sensible enough.  I
suspect that when the hot air coming from DC blows over, the investigations
will prove that existing laws have been broken, and there will be criminal
convictions.  Most people don't want to wait for investigations to run their
course, and politicians pander to this lack of attention span with by
pontificating on TV, then passing more laws, which at best are probably
redundant, and at worst have unintended side-effects. 

The politicians, especially Democrats, have also successfully exploited
class-envy with their screw-the-rich-we'll protect-the-little-guy act.  It
usually works well for them, so they take advantage of it at every
opportunity.



Gary

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Gary,

Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
(Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed and
selfishness that they are mired in.

Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in a
way that is transparent to investors?

I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
validity of their accounting.

regards,
ep



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Eric,

Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing?   After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
economy as a whole.  So where would the insider info come into play?  And if
he really did have insider info, and was acting unethically, why not sell
more shares?  The amount he sold was probably less than 5% of his holdings.

I don't mean to defend ceo misconduct, corporate fraud, etc, I just think
you need look this particular accusation  a little more objectively,
especially when you consider its source.  I have great respect for McCain's
war record and heroism, but now he is a politician, a Senator no less.
IMHO, one can't take anything any politician says at face value.  Given a
choice between honesty and self-promotion, I'm afraid politicians too often
choose the latter.  And without getting into specifics about McCain, he
seems to be second in the Senate only to my own Sen. Schumer in his love of
getting on TV (Q: What's the most dangerous place in NY?  A: Between Chuck
Schumer and a TV camera).  Larry makes a convenient and easy target, someone
a politician knows he can attack, get a good soundbite, and have very little
chance of being challenged.

Gary

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trying again...

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RE: delete from table question

2002-07-16 Thread Inder . Singh


Hi,

I have this script which deletes the record from the master as well as all
the Child tables also. May be this will help you.
But I have never used this script before. Check this on Development before
running it in Prod.

To delete records from all the dependent tables and the master table for a
particular record.

Select 'Alter Table ' || Table_Name || ' Modify Consraint ' ||
Constraint_Name || ' On Delete Cascade;' From User_Constraints where
Constraint_Type = 'R' and R_Constraint_Name = PK Constraint Name


Regards,

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Hi All -
I am trying to delete from a table that has 24 child tables. Because the
constraints are not 'cascade delete', I am hitting the following:

ORA-02292: integrity constraint (NVALET.FK_TOPOGROUPMEMBERNE2) violated -
child
record found

If I want to go ahead and delete the child records as well, there seem to
be 2 options:
1. Write a sql/plsql procedure to delete the child records first before
each deleting each record from the parent table.
2. Recreate the constraints with 'cascade delete' and delete the records
from parent table. After that recreate the constraints again without
cascade delete.

Either option requires some work. Does anybody have a better idea? Also can
anybody have a script to recreate all constraints to share?

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications Corp.

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Re: Your password! It's S New Worm W32/Frethem.K@mm

2002-07-16 Thread lembark



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RE: RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Scott . Shafer

With any luck, they'll all have the privilege of meeting Ray-Ray on Cell
Block D.  Maybe we should move this to OT, eh?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217


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 Gary,
 
 Well if you know almost nothing about accounting, I'm about 200 ft
 deeper
 into the waters than you and still know almost nothing about accounting
 as it
 turns out.  What is more, I don't even want to get acquainted with the
 bottom
 feeders in this here ocean!  We've always had the saying about Lier's,
 damned
 lier's , and statistics well you had better add accountants to the end
 cause it
 sure is one heck of a mess.  As for politicains, honest politician I
 believe is
 still an oxymoron.  SO the politicians and crooked  CEO's and accountants
 should
 be in good company.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
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9iAS Application Server: Win2k vs. Linux?

2002-07-16 Thread Gene Sais

I am not looking for an OS war, but has anyone on the list had experience in setting 
up/administering 9iAS rel 2. (1.0.2.2.2a) on Win2k or Red Hat Linux?  I have the 
option of selecting the OS on this one.  All of my oracle databases are on AIX (sort 
of like unix).  I have 1 OAS 4.0.8.2 App Server running on NT.  I am not sure if I 
should continue the NT track for App Servers or go Linux?  Any opinions, experiences 
would be appreciated.  Thanks,

Gene

PS. I will also be running the Forms Server w/ this.


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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread kkennedy

I found this once but can't seem to find the full details at the moment.  This will 
help though (Solaris8):

kill -l  # lists all kill signal names

kill -l KILL  # lists numeric equivalent for signal name KILL

and then if you wish to obsess on the subject:

for x in $(kill -l)
do
print $x $(kill -l $x)
done

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation 

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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

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 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
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 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
 much time.
 
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 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
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 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
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RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Orr, Steve

A lot of the current problem goes back to government intervention. Some
politicians/bureaucrats complained that CEO salaries were too high or unfair
and (as if they were fit to judge) they decided to control the high CEO
salary problem via taxation. So guess what happened? Corporate boards felt
they needed to better compensate their CEO's and compensation changed to be
more oriented to stocks and options. Suddenly CEO became intensely
interested in Wall Street perception and stock values, much of which is
driven by accounting reports. Business practices changed because of
government intervention to solve a problem and the result was an even
worse problem. The original government intervention was justified as an
attempt to make things more fair for the little people but the result hurt
everyone, especially little people like the small investor. 

LAISSEZ FAIRE!! Less government = increased prosperity. Adam Smith rules.

The above explanation is a bit simplistic and doesn't explain everything but
the essence has merit. The market may have periods of irrational exuberance
but eventually it self corrects. 

The founding fathers' focus was to have the government be accountable to the
public but now the fixation is with having publicly owned organizations be
accountable to the government. In reality public companies are accountable
to the public and the correction has already taken place in the stock
market. The mindset of America has been turned up-side-down and many of its
values no longer reflect the values of the founding fathers or its heritage
in the constitution. 

The founding fathers were considered liberals in their day.


Liberally and rhetorically yours,  :-)
Steve Orr


P.S.

What does this have to do with Oracle? Well it's kind of like tuning with
ratios... Making tuning changes with incomplete understanding may have the
opposite effect of what was intended.  :-)


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A new boat, Ferrari, Mig fighter jet, mansion, maybe some Japanese art...
the man has some serious expenses.  Seriously, I know that Oracle had a
problem with shady accounting practices many years ago (late 80's, if I
recall correctly).  Their stock took a huge hit, and they cleaned up their
act.  As a result, I think that they have been very conservative in there
accounting practices ever since, and have not heard any accusations of
untoward accounting practices since them.

I admit that I know almost nothing about accounting.  Still, I think it the
height of hypocrisy for politicians to accuse anyone of shady accounting
practices, when, as I understand, the federal govt itself doesn't abide by
the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to which corporations are
expected to adhere.  All the Worldcoms and Enrons added together don't equal
the tax dollars flushed down the toilet due to govt waste, corruption, fraud
and incompetence.  As an example:
http://freedom.house.gov/wastewatch/education.asp

Having ceo's sign off on their company's books seems sensible enough.  I
suspect that when the hot air coming from DC blows over, the investigations
will prove that existing laws have been broken, and there will be criminal
convictions.  Most people don't want to wait for investigations to run their
course, and politicians pander to this lack of attention span with by
pontificating on TV, then passing more laws, which at best are probably
redundant, and at worst have unintended side-effects. 

The politicians, especially Democrats, have also successfully exploited
class-envy with their screw-the-rich-we'll protect-the-little-guy act.  It
usually works well for them, so they take advantage of it at every
opportunity.



Gary

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Gary,

Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
(Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed and
selfishness that they are mired in.

Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in a
way that is transparent to investors?

I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
validity of their accounting.

regards,
ep



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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:53:34 -0800
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Eric,

Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing?   After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
economy as a whole.  So where would the insider info come into play? 

RE: RE: DBMS_JOB interval wierdness

2002-07-16 Thread Jesse, Rich

Yes and yes.  Unfortunately, I don't have the time to setup the workaround
for the GATHER_SCHEMA_STATS bug.  It'll hit a NO_DATA_FOUND after all
objects have been analyzed.

I've setup some error trapping and left the job alone to see if it runs
without the error.  And if there's no error, will it submit at the proper
interval or not.  Of course it runs at 1 *AM* and not *PM*, like I had said,
so I'll wait to see what happens tomorrow.

Thx!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA


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 Jesse,
 
 Is this 8.1.6?  If so there's a bug filed against dbms_stats.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply Separator
 Subject:RE: DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
 Author: Jesse; Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   7/16/2002 12:24 PM
 
 Nope.  1 PM just like it should, only every day instead of 
 every week.  I've
 tried it with the 7 in and out of the TRUNC with the same results.
 
 One other thing I just noticed is that the job returns an 
 error each time it
 is run due to bug in DBMS_STATS.  I'm rectifying that now 
 with trapping and
 an error table, but I'm still confused as to why it would 
 resub in a day
 instead of the interval.
 
 Thx!
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, 
 Sussex, WI USA
 
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  Jesse,
  
  No joke, let me guess, 8am every day, right?  Try 
  TRUNC(SYSDATE+7)+1/24
  instead.
  
  Dick Goulet
  
  Reply Separator
  Subject:DBMS_JOB interval wierdness
  Author: Jesse; Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date:   7/16/2002 9:08 AM
  
  Hey all,
  
  I've got a job to gather stats on a schema of an 8.1.6.0.0 
  DB.  The interval
  of the DBMS_JOB is:
  
  TRUNC(SYSDATE)+7+1/24
  
  ...but it keeps resubmitting itself every day, instead of 
 once a week.
  
  I *must* be brain dead or this cold's getting the best of me, 
  because I just
  can't see what I'm missing.
  
  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
  
  Rich Jesse
 
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Re: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?

2002-07-16 Thread Ramon E. Estevez

Kirti,

I am using Red Hat 7.1, I will test it in W2K


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 Ramon,
  I can not explain that.   What platform are you on?
  May be this is another bug with SPFILE.

 - Kirti


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  Subject: Re: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?
 
  Hi Kirti
 
  I have something to add to the topic.
 
  I could edit the spfile with VI and add a parameter with a value of
20,
  later add the same parameter to the init file with a value of 30, bounce
  the
  DB and it worked very fine.
 
  SQL shutdown immediate;
  Database closed.
  Database dismounted.
  ORACLE instance shut down.
  SQL startup
 
  ORACLE instance started.
 
  Total System Global Area  235693104 bytes
  Fixed Size   279600 bytes
  Variable Size 167772160 bytes
  Database Buffers   67108864 bytes
  Redo Buffers 532480 bytes
  Database mounted.
  Database opened.
  SQL SHOW PARAMETER JOB
 
  NAME TYPEVALUE
   ---
  ---
  ---
  job_queue_processes  integer 20   -- spfile
 
 
  SQL shutdown immediate;
  Database closed.
  Database dismounted.
  ORACLE instance shut down.
  SQL startup
  ORACLE instance started.
 
  Total System Global Area  235693104 bytes
  Fixed Size   279600 bytes
  Variable Size 167772160 bytes
  Database Buffers   67108864 bytes
  Redo Buffers 532480 bytes
  Database mounted.
  Database opened.
  SQL show parameter job
 
  NAME TYPEVALUE
   ---
  ---
  ---
  job_queue_processes  integer 30   -- init
  SQL
  SQL
 
  Could you explain me that ???
 
  Ramon
 
 
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   All Right, Larry. Since we have the test servers and databases; and my
   Company still pays for 'doing Oracle' the 'scary' way, here is another
   'scary thing' I did with SPFILE :)
   (9iR1 on HP)
  
   SQL conn / as sysdba
   Connected to an idle instance.
   SQL startup using spfile
  
   ORACLE instance started.
   Total System Global Area   72273416 bytes
   Fixed Size   437768 bytes
   Variable Size  37748736 bytes
   Database Buffers   33554432 bytes
   Redo Buffers 532480 bytes
   Database mounted.
   Database opened.
   SQL show parameter db_cache_size
   NAME TYPEVALUE
    ---
   --
   db_cache_sizebig integer 33554432
  
   SQL !mv spfileKED9.ora spfileKED9.ora.bak  -- hide the spfile
  
   SQL !ls -l *.ora
   -rw-r--r--   1 oracle dba  12920 May 10  2001 initdw.ora
  
   SQL alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=both;   -- try to set a
  new
   value
  
   System altered.   --- No problem?
  
   SQL show parameter db_cache_size
  
   NAME TYPEVALUE
    ---
   --
   db_cache_sizebig integer 12582912
  
   -- New value in effect.
  
   SQL !ls -l *.ora
   -rw-r--r--   1 oracle dba  12920 May 10  2001 initdw.ora
  
   -- Still no SFILE
   -- Now, why would not Oracle tell us that there was no spfile to
  process
   SCOPE=BOTH ?
  
   SQL c/both/spfile
 1* alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=spfile
   SQL /
   alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=spfile
   *
   ERROR at line 1:
   ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
   HP-UX Error: 2: No such file or directory
   Additional information: 3
  
   --This is what should have happened with SCOPE=BOTH as well, or at
  least
  a
   warning that SCOPE=BOTH was processed as SCOPE=MEMORY since there was
no
   SPFILE available. I would not have objected if Oracle re-recreated
  SPFILE
  in
   the default location and told me so!
  
   If anyone has seen any mention of this particular behaviour of
  SCOPE=BOTH,
  I
   would like to know the source of that information. I have searched
  Metalink,
   Google but have not come across any. I have created an iTar with OWS.
   Thanks.
  
   As I said before, SPFILE has some things that need to be made fool
  proof.
  
   This time I did not drink prior to doing this 'scary' stuff !!;-)
  
   Regards,
  
   - Kirti
 
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Re: 9iAS Application Server: Win2k vs. Linux?

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Gene,

If it helps any, I had the privilege of setting up OAS ( several names ago 
)
on both NT and Solaris 2.6.

Solaris was by far easier.  I can't emphasize enough how much simpler
it was on *nix than on Windoze. 

Windoze:

Step 1: do something
Step 2: reboot
Step 3: try something else
Step 4: reboot

Solaris:

Step 1: Install
Step 2: Configure
Step 3: implement.

Jared





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I am not looking for an OS war, but has anyone on the list had experience 
in setting up/administering 9iAS rel 2. (1.0.2.2.2a) on Win2k or Red Hat 
Linux?  I have the option of selecting the OS on this one.  All of my 
oracle databases are on AIX (sort of like unix).  I have 1 OAS 4.0.8.2 App 
Server running on NT.  I am not sure if I should continue the NT track for 
App Servers or go Linux?  Any opinions, experiences would be appreciated. 
Thanks,

Gene

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intermedia - create and drop synonyms

2002-07-16 Thread Daniel Garant








Hi, 

I'm having problems with intermedia for synonyms in the thesaurus. Here a list
of request that I execute and that order and their results: 

select ctx_thes.SYN('disease','gdermthes_md') from DUAL; 
{DISEASE}|{SICKNESS}|{MALADIE1} 

execute CTX_THES.DROP_RELATION('gdermthes_md','DISEASE','SYN','maladie1'); 

select ctx_thes.SYN('disease','gdermthes_md') from DUAL; 
{DISEASE} 

execute CTX_THES.CREATE_RELATION('gdermthes_md','maladie1','SYN','DISEASE'); 

select ctx_thes.SYN('disease','gdermthes_md') from DUAL; 
{DISEASE}|{SICKNESS}|{MALADIE1} 

The problem is that when I remove the relationship between disease and
maladie1, I lose sickness as well in my synonyms for disease. On the other
hand, if I reverse the order of my parameters in the drop_relation like that: 

execute CTX_THES.DROP_RELATION('gdermthes_md','maladie1','SYN','disease'); 

If works correctly. That creates a problem for me because for every other relationship
types, it's always source term first and target term second. I'm trying to
write generic code to handle those tasks and I don't want to do a special case
for synonyms. 

Thanks for any help. 













RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Kevin,

Too much work!

Just use:   kill -9 -1

;)  you better read the man page first on this one. 

Jared





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I found this once but can't seem to find the full details at the moment. 
This will help though (Solaris8):

kill -l  # lists all kill signal names

kill -l KILL  # lists numeric equivalent for signal name KILL

and then if you wish to obsess on the subject:

for x in $(kill -l)
do
print $x $(kill -l $x)
done

Kevin Kennedy
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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

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 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
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 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
 transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
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Re: 9iAS Application Server: Win2k vs. Linux?

2002-07-16 Thread Peter . McLarty

As you have Unix skills and therefore could handle Linux OK, then unless 
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save the organisation money by using Linux for your platform

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

try 'kill -l' where the -l is an ell as in -list.

Jared






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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
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 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:38 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 on
 
 
 Hi. 
 
 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
 transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
 gene
 
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Re: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Tim Gorman

 Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
 (Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

As the story was related to me, Ellison has been living off of loans (from
banks, not Oracle) for the past couple decades.  His alleged reasoning was
that his stocks would appreciate far faster than the interest of the loans,
thus making it more economical to borrow than to sell.  Obviously, with such
a plan, you have to pay off sometime, and in 2000 one (or more) of his
lenders called in his loans for payment.  Again, this is just hearsay, but
that's what I've heard...

...so, in essence, he sold stock because he had (large unexpected) debts to
pay.  The timing of the stock sale wasn't his, it was some banker's...

 Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
 wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed
and
 selfishness that they are mired in.

Oh, you do yourself far too much justice!  My own objection was your
prolonged and uninformed vitriol lacking anything more than a politician's
media release for substantiation.  Go measure some cache-hit ratios,
please...

 Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in
a
 way that is transparent to investors?

No idea.  Not of interest...

 I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
 that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
 validity of their accounting.

Sure.  Whatever.  Whaddya say we get back to work and talk techie stuff and
quit wasting time on this fluff?  signing off on thread

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread kkennedy

Yeah, ok, I forgot that in my youth the number one was typed by using the key 
immediately right of the K and the number zero was typed by using Shift and the key 
between I and P.  I really meant kill -l using the letter to the right of the K, not 
that numeric symbol on the top row of the keyboard.  Been a long time since I used 
kill -9 -1 -- I got out of the habit during my time on HPUX.

And if anyone wants to try Jared's approach, be sure to log in as the oracle user on a 
critical production system and have your resume up to date 8-)

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation 

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Kevin,

Too much work!

Just use:   kill -9 -1

;)  you better read the man page first on this one. 

Jared





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I found this once but can't seem to find the full details at the moment. 
This will help though (Solaris8):

kill -l  # lists all kill signal names

kill -l KILL  # lists numeric equivalent for signal name KILL

and then if you wish to obsess on the subject:

for x in $(kill -l)
do
print $x $(kill -l $x)
done

Kevin Kennedy
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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
 much time.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 rollback activity is going on
 
 
 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:38 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
 transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
 gene
 
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RE: 9iAS Application Server: Win2k vs. Linux?

2002-07-16 Thread Scott . Shafer

I'm fighting with 9iAS 9.0.2 on HP at the moment.  This is one lng
install on an underpowered machine (2 cpu's, 2G mem).

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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 Gene,
 
 If it helps any, I had the privilege of setting up OAS ( several names ago
 
 )
 on both NT and Solaris 2.6.
 
 Solaris was by far easier.  I can't emphasize enough how much simpler
 it was on *nix than on Windoze. 
 
 Windoze:
 
 Step 1: do something
 Step 2: reboot
 Step 3: try something else
 Step 4: reboot
 
 Solaris:
 
 Step 1: Install
 Step 2: Configure
 Step 3: implement.
 
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 Linux?  I have the option of selecting the OS on this one.  All of my 
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 Thanks,
 
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How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Miller, Jay

Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code.  They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 
 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread mkb

Thanks.

That clarifies things.  Time to look into this some
more.

mkb

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  It could be that pmon is rolling back the
  transaction.
  
  It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
  it up, which sometimes
  happens when killing an active transaction. 
  
  I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
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Re: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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RE: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Miller, Jay

Hi Jared,

Thanks for the suggestion.  But I went to www.microsoft.com, clicked on
support and searched on the words
bind variables oracle visual basic

After a dozen Internet Explorer Script errors I got a bunch of links with
names like 26jbkjakjbmon

That one led to a blank page.  Others led to articles that didn't even
mention bind variables.  And I thought Metalink was bad.

Does anyone have a link that goes directly to an article?

Thanks,
Jay Miller

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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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RE: (Fwd/2)

2002-07-16 Thread Johnson, Michael

I would add to this ..

In a free market system nobody should 
look at the negative side when people make
money off of their hard work or investments.
This is the way it is set up.  

Why not say  damn, how did he do
it and where do I get in line to get
some of that action ?

I always find it interesting the envy and/or
disgust that some folks have toward people
who make alot of money. 

Think of all the middle class people
Larry Ellison and crew put to work who
bought homes and cars to drive our economy.

I didnt care for any of Larry and Scotts 
bitchin and moanin about Microsoft and
Bill Gates, but I say to Larry ..  More power
to you to make more money, keep gettin richer 
and help build our economy.  Keep on truckin !

FWIW.

Mike
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 Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
 (Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)

As the story was related to me, Ellison has been living off of loans (from
banks, not Oracle) for the past couple decades.  His alleged reasoning was
that his stocks would appreciate far faster than the interest of the loans,
thus making it more economical to borrow than to sell.  Obviously, with such
a plan, you have to pay off sometime, and in 2000 one (or more) of his
lenders called in his loans for payment.  Again, this is just hearsay, but
that's what I've heard...

...so, in essence, he sold stock because he had (large unexpected) debts to
pay.  The timing of the stock sale wasn't his, it was some banker's...

 Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
 wealthy technocorporate elites, and the ethos of sleaze, extreme greed
and
 selfishness that they are mired in.

Oh, you do yourself far too much justice!  My own objection was your
prolonged and uninformed vitriol lacking anything more than a politician's
media release for substantiation.  Go measure some cache-hit ratios,
please...

 Do you know if Oracle's accounting practices are currently documented in
a
 way that is transparent to investors?

No idea.  Not of interest...

 I guess a lot of alleged facts will come out after the august deadline
 that the SEC has imposed for corporate executives to sign off on the
 validity of their accounting.

Sure.  Whatever.  Whaddya say we get back to work and talk techie stuff and
quit wasting time on this fluff?  signing off on thread

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RE: v$sort_usage

2002-07-16 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Do you use global temporary tables? (select owner,table_name from dba_tables where 
temporary='Y';)

If so the segments shown could be associated with that.

HTH,
Bruce Reardon

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Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2002 2:00

Hi,

Could someone shed some light on how v$sort_usage is 
populated? It is supposed to show active sorts in the 
database. If that is the case then I don't understand 
why I see the following:

1. An entry exists for a user/sort, yet according to 
v$session the session is NOT active.
2. Multiple entries exist for a user with the SAME 
session_addr. I don't understand how a session could 
have multiple sort segments.

As always, you're feedback is appreciated.

Thanks.
-w
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RE: How to change VB code to use bind variables?

2002-07-16 Thread Gene Sais

did you try google?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=bind+variables+oracle+visual+basicbtnG=Google+Search

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/02 06:08PM 
Hi Jared,

Thanks for the suggestion.  But I went to www.microsoft.com, clicked on
support and searched on the words
bind variables oracle visual basic

After a dozen Internet Explorer Script errors I got a bunch of links with
names like 26jbkjakjbmon

That one led to a blank page.  Others led to articles that didn't even
mention bind variables.  And I thought Metalink was bad.

Does anyone have a link that goes directly to an article?

Thanks,
Jay Miller

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Check on the MS support site.  There are several
articles detailing how to do this.

Jared





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Hi,

In checking my v$SQLArea I recently discovered that there was an often
executed SQL statement that was not using bind variables.  I tracked it 
down
to a VB front end and asked the development group to modify the code. They
asked me how to do it.

Not being a VB programmer I said I had no idea but would try to find out.
Here's an abbreviated version of the code.  It's the sAcctId that seems to
be causing the multiple executions.  Anyone know how this can be rewritten
to use bind variables?  Can it be done from VB or do we need to transfer 
the
code to PL/SQL on the back end?

Private Function GetSQL(ByVal sKey As String, _
ByVal sAcctId As String, _
Optional ByVal sAcctNum As String, _
Optional ByVal sWhereAnd As String)
Dim sConnect As String
Dim sSql As String
Dim oWsiLibData As WSILib.CDisplayData
Dim rsCustomer As ADODB.Recordset
Dim lCustId As Long
Dim sCustId As String

Select Case sKey
...
...
Case accountinfo:
 sSql = SELECT a.id, a.account_no, a.type, a.title1, 
a.title2,
a.title3,   _
a.inventory_date date_opened, a.last_modified_date
last_change,   _
rc.description rebatecmsn,   _
sSql = sSql   account_info.fetch_email(  sAcctId  ) 
email

sSql = sSql  FROM account a, status s, usa_wh_tax u, fund f, 

 _
stock_commission_codes sc, cmsn_rebate_codes rc,
account_kind ak 
sSql = sSql  , dual  
sSql = sSql  WHERE a.status_id=s.id and
a.usa_tax_code=u.code(+)   _
and a.fund_id=f.id and   _
a.s_stk_cmsn_code=sc.code(+) and
a.cmsn_reb_code=rc.code(+) and a.kind_id=ak.id   _
and a.id =  sAcctId

sConnect = sConnectWSI

GetSQL = Array(sConnect, sSql)
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escape key ???

2002-07-16 Thread Leslie Lu

Hi all,

I need to insert some value with  as a part of the
string. 
For example, insert ... values ('a  b'); What escape
key should be used?

insert ... values ('a / b');  -- doesn't work
insert ... values ('a '||''||' b'); -- works, but I'd
like to know what escape key works in this case.

Thank you.

Leslie

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RE: escape key ???

2002-07-16 Thread kkennedy

Hi Leslie,
Sounds like your problem is in SQLPlus where the  character is the prefix for 
substitution variables.

Look in the SQLPlus manual under SET DEFINE and SET ESCAPE.

You can choose a different character or you can turn off substitution with SET DEFINE 
OFF.

You can define an escape character with SET ESCAPE / (did you really mean to use a 
forward slash?).  The default on my machine is SET ESCAPE OFF which is why your first 
attempt didn't work.

Kevin Kennedy
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Hi all,

I need to insert some value with  as a part of the
string. 
For example, insert ... values ('a  b'); What escape
key should be used?

insert ... values ('a / b');  -- doesn't work
insert ... values ('a '||''||' b'); -- works, but I'd
like to know what escape key works in this case.

Thank you.

Leslie

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Win2000/8.1.7.3/Temp Space Question

2002-07-16 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

Hi Everyone:

I have an 8.1.7.3 database running on Win2k.  I created the
TEMP tablespace as locally managed and temporary.  When I run a
query that needs sort space I get a...

ERROR at line 5:
ORA-01652: unable to extend temp segment by 256 in tablespace TEMP

...error.  Then I try to find out what's going on with...

SQL select * from v$temp_space_header;

TS NameFile# BYTES_USED BLOCKS_USED BYTES_FREE BLOCKS_FREE
-- - -- --- -- ---
RELATIVE_FNO

TEMP   1 2097152000  256000  0   0
   1


1 row selected.

SQL select * from v$temp_extent_pool;

TS NameFile# EXTENTS_CACHED EXTENTS_USED BLOCKS_CACHED
-- - --  -
BLOCKS_USED BYTES_CACHED BYTES_USED RELATIVE_FNO
---  -- 
TEMP   19990255744
  0   2095054848  01


1 row selected.

SQL select * from v$sort_segment;

TS NameSEGMENT_FILE SEGMENT_BLOCK EXTENT_SIZE CURRENT_USERS
--  - --- -
TOTAL_EXTENTS TOTAL_BLOCKS USED_EXTENTS USED_BLOCKS FREE_EXTENTS
-   --- 
FREE_BLOCKS ADDED_EXTENTS EXTENT_HITS FREED_EXTENTS FREE_REQUESTS
--- - --- - -
  MAX_SIZE MAX_BLOCKS MAX_USED_SIZE MAX_USED_BLOCKS MAX_SORT_SIZE
-- -- - --- -
MAX_SORT_BLOCKS RELATIVE_FNO
--- 
TEMP  0 0 256 0
  999   2557440   0  999
 255744 03683 0 0
   999 255744   999  255744   999
 2557440


1 row selected.

SQL  select * from v$sort_usage;

no rows selected

SQL 

...and it looks like a sort segment that is in use, but nobody's
claiming it.  The V$TEMP_EXTENT_POOL shows blocks as cached but
not used.

I do not understand what's going on.  Can somebody give me a hint
or a place to look in the docs to figure this out?  Do I needs to
add more TEMP space?  Can I un-cache the unused space?

Help!

And Thanx,
Mike


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RE: escape key ???

2002-07-16 Thread Fink, Dan

The default value in SQL*Plus for escape is \ not /. / is reserved and says
'execute the statement in the buffer or the above pl/sql block'. You can set
it to a different value with SET ESCAPE command.

Use the CHR function instead of escaping. 

insert into table values ('a '||chr(38)||' b');

This will be independent of any escape or other settings.

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Hi all,

I need to insert some value with  as a part of the
string. 
For example, insert ... values ('a  b'); What escape
key should be used?

insert ... values ('a / b');  -- doesn't work
insert ... values ('a '||''||' b'); -- works, but I'd
like to know what escape key works in this case.

Thank you.

Leslie

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Re: Win2000/8.1.7.3/Temp Space Question

2002-07-16 Thread chaos

Vergara, Michael (TEM)£¬
Hi , i think you created the tablespace like:
Create tablespace temp datafile 'xxx' extent management local , right?
Drop it and recreate it like:
Create temporary tablespace temp tempfile 'xxx' ...


Good luck!

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ÔÚ 2002-07-16 16:43:00 You wrote:
Hi Everyone:

I have an 8.1.7.3 database running on Win2k.  I created the
TEMP tablespace as locally managed and temporary.  When I run a
query that needs sort space I get a...

ERROR at line 5:
ORA-01652: unable to extend temp segment by 256 in tablespace TEMP

...error.  Then I try to find out what's going on with...

SQL select * from v$temp_space_header;

TS NameFile# BYTES_USED BLOCKS_USED BYTES_FREE BLOCKS_FREE
-- - -- --- -- ---
RELATIVE_FNO

TEMP   1 2097152000  256000  0   0
   1


1 row selected.

SQL select * from v$temp_extent_pool;

TS NameFile# EXTENTS_CACHED EXTENTS_USED BLOCKS_CACHED
-- - --  -
BLOCKS_USED BYTES_CACHED BYTES_USED RELATIVE_FNO
---  -- 
TEMP   19990255744
  0   2095054848  01


1 row selected.

SQL select * from v$sort_segment;

TS NameSEGMENT_FILE SEGMENT_BLOCK EXTENT_SIZE CURRENT_USERS
--  - --- -
TOTAL_EXTENTS TOTAL_BLOCKS USED_EXTENTS USED_BLOCKS FREE_EXTENTS
-   --- 
FREE_BLOCKS ADDED_EXTENTS EXTENT_HITS FREED_EXTENTS FREE_REQUESTS
--- - --- - -
  MAX_SIZE MAX_BLOCKS MAX_USED_SIZE MAX_USED_BLOCKS MAX_SORT_SIZE
-- -- - --- -
MAX_SORT_BLOCKS RELATIVE_FNO
--- 
TEMP  0 0 256 0
  999   2557440   0  999
 255744 03683 0 0
   999 255744   999  255744   999
 2557440


1 row selected.

SQL  select * from v$sort_usage;

no rows selected

SQL

...and it looks like a sort segment that is in use, but nobody's
claiming it.  The V$TEMP_EXTENT_POOL shows blocks as cached but
not used.

I do not understand what's going on.  Can somebody give me a hint
or a place to look in the docs to figure this out?  Do I needs to
add more TEMP space?  Can I un-cache the unused space?

Help!

And Thanx,
Mike


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deploying forms reports on web problem

2002-07-16 Thread Arvind Kumar

Dear All,

 i want to deploy my application (forms  reports) on web, for this i
have instlled forms and 
reporst server 6.0. i can see the forms in browser but its window size is
not appearing proper and the icons also not appearing .what could be the
problem.

Thanks in advance


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