RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Peter . McLarty

Cool Tools have a tool that can assist with this

The Extraction and load tool from Databee

http://www.cool-tools.co.uk/

Cheers


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1. You can use SQL*Plus COPY command to copy data from Production into
development database.
2. You can create a link from Development database to Production database,
and then use insert into Development database table by selecting data from
table@Production database. 
3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the rows you need
from each table in Production and import those into Development database.
However, it will depend on how easy it is to get to the required data by 
the
QUERY option (available with Oracle 8i).

I would go with #1 first. 
Check SQL*Plus Reference Guide for (1) and (2)
Check Utilities Guide for (3).

HTH..

- Kirti

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Hi guru ,

  I need your advise , currently our customer have a production and
development system , if there is a problem log being raise , then we need 
to
port the data from development to production  but not the whole database
sometime is only certain record.

 Is there any method to use instead of generate insert statement for
necessary  table(PROD) and run the statement (DEV) ?

 I do think of using XML but I don't know how to do it

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2002-10-01 Thread MIvanov




RE: Index question

2002-10-01 Thread Ofer Harel

Thanks you all for your response

Ofer

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 Testing against 8.1.7.4, the drop index was successful and an error was
 reported by my long running query:

 ERROR:
 ORA-08103: object no longer exists
Is this because the index is locked by query only when it's used? From one
side looks reasonable, but from another - no good someone can drop an index
user by running query.

Is there any index locking at all??

Regards,
Alexandre


 Regards,

 Larry G. Elkins
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  Good morning,
 
  Suppose there is a long running query (which already parsed)
  using an index.
  Now I dropped the index. What should happened to the running query?
 
  Ofer Harel
  DBA team
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Robson, Peter




IF you can identify the problem rows automatically, and flag them as such in
your production environment, then you can have those rows automatically
copied (or moved - your choice) to your development machine (presumably
using database links). For what its worth, we have been doing just this for
years, fully automated. Its replication, but not as Oracle recognises the
term!

peter
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 1. You can use SQL*Plus COPY command to copy data from Production into
 development database.
 2. You can create a link from Development database to 
 Production database,
 and then use insert into Development database table by 
 selecting data from
 table@Production database. 
 3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the 
 rows you need
 from each table in Production and import those into 
 Development database.
 However, it will depend on how easy it is to get to the 
 required data by 
 the
 QUERY option (available with Oracle 8i).
 
 I would go with #1 first. 
 Check SQL*Plus Reference Guide for (1) and (2)
 Check Utilities Guide for (3).
 
 HTH..
 
 - Kirti
 
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 Hi guru ,
 
   I need your advise , currently our customer have a production and
 development system , if there is a problem log being raise , 
 then we need 
 to
 port the data from development to production  but not the 
 whole database
 sometime is only certain record.
 
  Is there any method to use instead of generate insert statement for
 necessary  table(PROD) and run the statement (DEV) ?
 
  I do think of using XML but I don't know how to do it
 
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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1





H. How come I always seem to be the DBA who can't say no - you don't seem to have that problem at all.


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The phone rings. Another user. Still pissed off, I pick it up...


Database Administration, can I help you? I answer professionally.


Troubled silence on the phone. Politeness is a very bad signal from me and they know it. He was rattled.


Uh, hi, this is Joe, technical lead on that super-critical project for Benefits? Is this a good time? I have some stuff I need moved to production?

The last was a statement, but it came out like a question. With a slight quaver in the voice, too. Excellent. Technical lead my arse.

Could you be more specific so I can schedule you appropriately?


He hesitated. Gosh, I sounded for real. I almost convinced myself. The victim approached warily.


I've got a bunch of PL/SQL packages and some outlines to speed up the queries with special hints. The scripts are all ready for your review, they include the create statements, the grants, everything. I'm forwarding the email package to you with signoffs from IT, the user department, and your own from reviewing our design and test results. This last was delivered with almost pathetic eagerness. Good boy. Good, simple, foolish boy.

If he could see me he'd be terrified by my grin. Joe, I need you to help me out. You've just given me 10 minutes of work, but I'm due for lunch in 5 minutes. What do you suggest I do?

Joe knew better, he really did. But his team had been up all night finishing and the prize was so close...


Look, I really hate to impose. But we've missed several major deadlines, and department head has made it clear if we screw up again he'll outsource the whole project and have us laid off. I need it now so we can make sure everything's perfect for the big production run at COB today.

Consider it done, I promised cheerfully and hung up. I surprised him, and maybe myself, with my good spirits. Especially since I was more than 5 minutes late, closer to fifteen, and my buddies were already into their second beer when I joined them for lunch. But the extra 10 minutes had been well worth it considering what I managed to do to those hints with the outline editor. Just the same, though, I turned off my cell phone in case the twit called to find out why his 5-second queries took almost an hour. Can't have him taking me for granted, can I?

Later that evening, after quaffing several (all right, numerous) more ales with the boys, I dialed in from home to check how things were going. Mr. Tech Lead was still logged in, no doubt desperately trying to determine why things were taking forever. Poor Mr. Tech Lead, another sleepless night. I logged off, turned out the light, and slept like a baby.

Next morning, hangover. The phone rings. I snatch it up angrily...
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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1





I wish I could chuck my catholicism just a little to do something just a little like that - man!


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I don't know how he can live with himself



 
 LMAO
 
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 The phone rings. Another user. Still pissed off, I pick it up...
 
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UNSUSCRIBE

2002-10-01 Thread Pablo Campos Durante
Title: RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1



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RE: UNSUSCRIBE

2002-10-01 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Title: RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1



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Re: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Dale

If the schema has any complexity then manually identifying and extracting
the required dependent records can be quite troublesome. There is a white
paper on the DataBee web site entitled Test Database Generation and
Management that discusses the issues in some detail.

http://www.databee.com/TestDBGenWhitePaper.pdf

We also provide an automated tool designed for the purpose of creating
referentially correct subsets of data. It may be useful in your case.

Kind regards
Dale Edgar
Net 2000 Ltd.
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http://www.DataBee.com

   I need your advise , currently our customer have a production and
 development system , if there is a problem log being raise ,
 then we need
 to
 port the data from development to production  but not the
 whole database
 sometime is only certain record.

   Is there any method to use instead of generate insert statement for
 necessary  table(PROD) and run the statement (DEV) ?

  I do think of using XML but I don't know how to do it



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RE: UNSUSCRIBE

2002-10-01 Thread Thomas, Kevin

GRIN
 
Hallo,
 
What is UNSUSCRIBE...I have function in Access but cannot find in Oracle?
 
Please help.

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Re: ok so i'm bored working on rman scripts

2002-10-01 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Just go for it!  That's what  I did, out of necessity, I just implemented it
and waited until it got better. 8)

Ruth
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 Ruth, just some experiments, going to implement it for ERP at
 longaberger, so i need to do proof of concept.

 not stuck(yet) just experimenting.

 joe


 Ruth Gramolini wrote:

 Joe,
 What are you trying to do with rman?
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 so i took the first 2 stories and put them on
 
 http://www.oracle-dba.com/bdbafh
 
 nothing pretty, maybe i'll mess with it later today, text only so far.
 
 feel free to submit your part of the on-going saga to
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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Paula,

It  just takes practice. You can learn to say no. I did. You just have
to work up to it :)

You start with:  

If I do that for you now, I will fall behind x days on the critical
project I am working on for you

move on to:

I'm sorry. I have too much to do

then to:

not gonna happen

and finally, either of the following:

what part of the word NO don't you understand?

or (my personal favorite)

failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine


Try it, you'll like it 



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 H.  How come I always seem to be the DBA who can't say no - you
 don't
 seem to have that problem at all.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:58 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 The phone rings.  Another user.  Still pissed off, I pick it up...
 
 Database Administration, can I help you? I answer professionally.
 
 Troubled silence on the phone.  Politeness is a very bad signal from
 me and
 they know it.  He was rattled.
 
 Uh, hi, this is Joe, technical lead on that super-critical project
 for
 Benefits?  Is this a good time?  I have some stuff I need moved to
 production?
 
 The last was a statement, but it came out like a question.  With a
 slight
 quaver in the voice, too.  Excellent.  Technical lead my arse.
 
 Could you be more specific so I can schedule you appropriately?
 
 He hesitated.  Gosh, I sounded for real.  I almost convinced myself. 
 The
 victim approached warily.
 
 I've got a bunch of PL/SQL packages and some outlines to speed up
 the
 queries with special hints.  The scripts are all ready for your
 review, they
 include the create statements, the grants, everything.  I'm
 forwarding the
 email package to you with signoffs from IT, the user department, and
 your
 own from reviewing our design and test results.  This last was
 delivered
 with almost pathetic eagerness.  Good boy.  Good, simple, foolish
 boy.
 
 If he could see me he'd be terrified by my grin.  Joe, I need you to
 help
 me out.  You've just given me 10 minutes of work, but I'm due for
 lunch in 5
 minutes.  What do you suggest I do?
 
 Joe knew better, he really did.  But his team had been up all night
 finishing and the prize was so close...
 
 Look, I really hate to impose.  But we've missed several major
 deadlines,
 and department head has made it clear if we screw up again he'll
 outsource
 the whole project and have us laid off.  I need it now so we can make
 sure
 everything's perfect for the big production run at COB today.
 
 Consider it done,  I promised cheerfully and hung up.  I surprised
 him,
 and maybe myself, with my good spirits.  Especially since I was more
 than 5
 minutes late, closer to fifteen, and my buddies were already into
 their
 second beer when I joined them for lunch.  But the extra 10 minutes
 had been
 well worth it considering what I managed to do to those hints with
 the
 outline editor.  Just the same, though, I turned off my cell phone in
 case
 the twit called to find out why his 5-second queries took almost an
 hour.
 Can't have him taking me for granted, can I?
 
 Later that evening, after quaffing several (all right, numerous) more
 ales
 with the boys, I dialed in from home to check how things were going. 
 Mr.
 Tech Lead was still logged in, no doubt desperately trying to
 determine why
 things were taking forever.  Poor Mr. Tech Lead, another sleepless
 night.  I
 logged off, turned out the light, and slept like a baby.
 
 Next morning, hangover.  The phone rings.  I snatch it up angrily...
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Re: Oracle 8i R3, and 9i R2 on Same NT Box

2002-10-01 Thread Rajesh Dayal

Yes I am here running 8.1.7 and 9i Release 1 ( not release 2) on the same Windows 2000 
Server Box.

So far so good, this is my test machine.

Rajesh

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 This is interesting.
 
 I have installed and run multiple Oracle versions on the same Unix box 
 but not NT.
 
 Sam Bootsma wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Does anybody out there run Oracle 8.1.7 and Oracle 9.2 on the same NT (or
 Windows 2000) box?  Is it running smoothly.  Any difficulties installing or
 running both versions on the same box?
 
 I ask because one of my colleagues has encountered difficulties installing
 and running Oracle 8.1.7 and Oracle 9.2 on the same NT box.  
 
 Thanks for any input.
 
 
 Sam Bootsma, OCP
 Technical Support Analyst
 CPAS Systems Inc.
 416-422-0563 x237
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 http://www.cpas.com
 
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: ok so i'm bored working on rman scripts

2002-10-01 Thread Tim Gorman

And it already is much better.  There are some holes, such as the REPORT
NEED BACKUP command lacking any awareness of archivelog backups (i.e. only
reporting the state of datafile backups alone), but it's easy enough to
write custom queries to deal with that.  But calling it a hole might be
too strong, because with custom-written backup scripts, you don't have
*anything* to query and have to parse/examine log output to determine if
what's backed up and what's not...

As far as more basic backup/restore functionality holes, it's mostly gotchas
and diligent catalog maintenance at this point (9i), although better support
for object point-in-time recovery would sure be nice so we can put the
final nails into the coffin of people using exports for backup purposes.
Still, even that can be crafted by reverse-engineering the actual RMAN
commands hiding behind macros like DUPLICATE TARGET DATABASE, and 9i at
least offers the ability to perform this down to the tablespace level (if
not the object-level)...

Go for it, indeed!  Nowadays, *not* going for it is the real risk...

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 Just go for it!  That's what  I did, out of necessity, I just implemented
it
 and waited until it got better. 8)

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  Ruth, just some experiments, going to implement it for ERP at
  longaberger, so i need to do proof of concept.
 
  not stuck(yet) just experimenting.
 
  joe
 
 
  Ruth Gramolini wrote:
 
  Joe,
  What are you trying to do with rman?
  Ruth
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  so i took the first 2 stories and put them on
  
  http://www.oracle-dba.com/bdbafh
  
  nothing pretty, maybe i'll mess with it later today, text only so far.
  
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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Connor McDonald

My favourite when they come to your desk...

Ah, I see the f..k up fairy has come to visit

(Apologies for profanity)

:-)

 --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paula,
 
 It  just takes practice. You can learn to say no. I
 did. You just have
 to work up to it :)
 
 You start with:  
 
 If I do that for you now, I will fall behind x days
 on the critical
 project I am working on for you
 
 move on to:
 
 I'm sorry. I have too much to do
 
 then to:
 
 not gonna happen
 
 and finally, either of the following:
 
 what part of the word NO don't you understand?
 
 or (my personal favorite)
 
 failure to plan on your part does not constitute an
 emergency on mine
 
 
 Try it, you'll like it 
 
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  H.  How come I always seem to be the DBA who
 can't say no - you
  don't
  seem to have that problem at all.
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:58 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  The phone rings.  Another user.  Still pissed off,
 I pick it up...
  
  Database Administration, can I help you? I
 answer professionally.
  
  Troubled silence on the phone.  Politeness is a
 very bad signal from
  me and
  they know it.  He was rattled.
  
  Uh, hi, this is Joe, technical lead on that
 super-critical project
  for
  Benefits?  Is this a good time?  I have some stuff
 I need moved to
  production?
  
  The last was a statement, but it came out like a
 question.  With a
  slight
  quaver in the voice, too.  Excellent.  Technical
 lead my arse.
  
  Could you be more specific so I can schedule you
 appropriately?
  
  He hesitated.  Gosh, I sounded for real.  I almost
 convinced myself. 
  The
  victim approached warily.
  
  I've got a bunch of PL/SQL packages and some
 outlines to speed up
  the
  queries with special hints.  The scripts are all
 ready for your
  review, they
  include the create statements, the grants,
 everything.  I'm
  forwarding the
  email package to you with signoffs from IT, the
 user department, and
  your
  own from reviewing our design and test results. 
 This last was
  delivered
  with almost pathetic eagerness.  Good boy.  Good,
 simple, foolish
  boy.
  
  If he could see me he'd be terrified by my grin. 
 Joe, I need you to
  help
  me out.  You've just given me 10 minutes of work,
 but I'm due for
  lunch in 5
  minutes.  What do you suggest I do?
  
  Joe knew better, he really did.  But his team had
 been up all night
  finishing and the prize was so close...
  
  Look, I really hate to impose.  But we've missed
 several major
  deadlines,
  and department head has made it clear if we screw
 up again he'll
  outsource
  the whole project and have us laid off.  I need it
 now so we can make
  sure
  everything's perfect for the big production run at
 COB today.
  
  Consider it done,  I promised cheerfully and
 hung up.  I surprised
  him,
  and maybe myself, with my good spirits. 
 Especially since I was more
  than 5
  minutes late, closer to fifteen, and my buddies
 were already into
  their
  second beer when I joined them for lunch.  But the
 extra 10 minutes
  had been
  well worth it considering what I managed to do to
 those hints with
  the
  outline editor.  Just the same, though, I turned
 off my cell phone in
  case
  the twit called to find out why his 5-second
 queries took almost an
  hour.
  Can't have him taking me for granted, can I?
  
  Later that evening, after quaffing several (all
 right, numerous) more
  ales
  with the boys, I dialed in from home to check how
 things were going. 
  Mr.
  Tech Lead was still logged in, no doubt
 desperately trying to
  determine why
  things were taking forever.  Poor Mr. Tech Lead,
 another sleepless
  night.  I
  logged off, turned out the light, and slept like a
 baby.
  
  Next morning, hangover.  The phone rings.  I
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DBA opening in San Diego

2002-10-01 Thread Charlie_Mengler


http://careers.peopleclick.com/jobposts/Client40_HomeDepot2/BU1/External/259-277.htm


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Re: Utl_file and OPENVMS

2002-10-01 Thread Gene Sais

the vms user oracle needs rights to the directory.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/02 10:53AM 
List,
 I have a package that creates files on the server. The directory
location and file name are obtained from tables in oracle. The procedure
works as designed on Novell 7.3.4  and no changes were needed when the
database way loaded on Linux Oracle 8.1.7. I am trying to move the
database from the Novell to an OPENVMS Oracle 8.1.7 server and I can't
get the package to write the files to the OS directory.
 The package is created by the Oracle user DTSUSER and executed by
DTSUSER. There is no OPENVMS user DTSUSER.
The sysadmin assures me that the permissions are correct to write to
the directory.
I have place a Dbms_output in the package to display the directory
information and it looks correct.
 Is there anything different that has to be done to an OPENVMS server
that will allow a package to write to a directory using the Utl_File
package?


Listing from the Oracle tables:

DTS_PARAMETER_NAME DTS_PARAMETER_VALUE 

-- --  

LOAD_USERIDLOADITUP

LOAD_PASSWORD  ILOADIT 

LOAD_SERVICE_NAME  GLC_ALPHADEV-TCP

LOAD_PAR_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.PAR]   

LOAD_DATA_FILE_DIR Disk1:[Pro_ics.Iqfiles] 

LOAD_CONTROL_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.CONTROL]   

LOAD_LOG_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.LOG]   

LOAD_BAD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.BAD]   

LOAD_DISCARD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.DISCARD]

Listing from the package that writes the parameter file:

Procedure Create_New_Par_File  
  
  (

   P_Current_Table_Name In  Varchar2  , 
   
   P_Run_Date   In  Date  , 
   
   P_Load_UseridIn  Varchar2  , 
  
   P_Load_Password  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Service_Name  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Par_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Data_File_Dir In  Varchar2  , 
   
   P_Load_Control_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 
 
   P_Load_Log_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Bad_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Discard_File_Dir  In  Varchar2
 
  )

  as   

  Begin

  Declare  

   L_Par_File_Hand  Utl_FIle.File_Type; -- Local variable to
hold the File Pointer for the parameter file.   
   
   
   
  Begin  
   I PLACED A DBMS_OUTPUT STATEMENT HERE AND IT DISPLAYED THE
   PROPER DIRECTORY LOCATION FOR THE FILE TO BE WRITT
EN TO.
-- Open a new parameter file
  
L_Par_File_Hand :=
Utl_File.Fopen(P_Load_Par_File_Dir,P_Current_Table_Name||'.PAR','w');   
  
-- Print the following lines into the parameter file.   
  
Utl_File.Put
(L_Par_File_Hand,'UserId='||P_Load_UserId||'/'||P_Load_Password||'@'||P_Load_Service_Name);

 
   

Utl_File.New_Line(L_Par_File_Hand); 
  
If Not P_Current_Table_Name = 'GLCRET'   

RE: Perl::DBI problems after charset change

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

No, but it shouldn't matter, should it?  Isn't Oracle supposed to convert
between different NLS_LANGs on server and client?  I would think that would
be shown by the fact that SQL*Plus works just fine from the same client.

Thx,
Rich

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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 Subject: Re: Perl::DBI problems after charset change
 
 
 Rich,
 
 Do you have export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1 in 
 the client
 environment where perl is running?
 
 -Mark
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7.3.2 -7.3.4.4

2002-10-01 Thread Peter R


Hi  Friends,


I had one of the oracle production database with 7.3.2 on AIX, I want to go 
7.3.4 base first and apply patchset 7.3.4.4. Could any body have document 
that takes me step by step process!! The documentation is there in CDs, But 
not step by step process!!

Thanks in advance
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Re: OT: oracle-dba.com domain auction

2002-10-01 Thread Peter Barnett

With the economy in the tank and most of the
successful web businesses being the old bricks and
mortar stores with another means to penetrate the
market, did you expect otherwise?  A web presence is
so passive that it is not much of an investment
without the ability to do collateral advertising. 
Especially, something as marginal as a specialized
oracle web site.

I did the research a couple of months ago for a site
like this and concluded I could not make it pay off. 
There are some major league players who are no longer
in the phone book (or on the web).  I had to ask
myself, with compelling data in hand, What made me
think I was smarter than they were?.  Lacking a good
answer I set the whole idea aside for another day.

Keep your domain name for another day.  It may have
value in the future but right now it is likely just
another casualty in the dot bomb train wreck.



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 With as much interest as i'd seen, i'd thought it
 would have been above $102.50, oh well unless you
 all run up the price in the last few days, guess
 i'll just be holding onto it for a while.
 
 joe
 


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Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

Hey,

Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, I've been
experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# column of AUD$,
since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end with ORDER BY
TIMESTAMP DESC.

In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a non-SYS DBA
schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't come up with any
of my own...

TIA!
Rich

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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1





An ENRON executive in training.


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I don't know how he can live with himself



 
 LMAO
 
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 The phone rings. Another user. Still pissed off, I pick it up...
 
 Database Administration, can I help you? I answer professionally.
 
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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Robson, Peter

Nah - I go for the subtle approach -


'YES?' - very, VERY loudly! And looking them dead straight in the eye...
(You should see 'em jump!)


peter
edinbugh

 -Original Message-
 From: Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 October 2002 15:38
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1
 
 
 My favourite when they come to your desk...
 
 Ah, I see the f..k up fairy has come to visit
 
 (Apologies for profanity)
 
 :-)
 
  --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Paula,
  
  It  just takes practice. You can learn to say no. I
  did. You just have
  to work up to it :)
  
  You start with:  
  
  If I do that for you now, I will fall behind x days
  on the critical
  project I am working on for you
  
  move on to:
  
  I'm sorry. I have too much to do
  
  then to:
  
  not gonna happen
  
  and finally, either of the following:
  
  what part of the word NO don't you understand?
  
  or (my personal favorite)
  
  failure to plan on your part does not constitute an
  emergency on mine
  
  
  Try it, you'll like it 
  
  
  
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   H.  How come I always seem to be the DBA who
  can't say no - you
   don't
   seem to have that problem at all.
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:58 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
   The phone rings.  Another user.  Still pissed off,
  I pick it up...
   
   Database Administration, can I help you? I
  answer professionally.
   
   Troubled silence on the phone.  Politeness is a
  very bad signal from
   me and
   they know it.  He was rattled.
   
   Uh, hi, this is Joe, technical lead on that
  super-critical project
   for
   Benefits?  Is this a good time?  I have some stuff
  I need moved to
   production?
   
   The last was a statement, but it came out like a
  question.  With a
   slight
   quaver in the voice, too.  Excellent.  Technical
  lead my arse.
   
   Could you be more specific so I can schedule you
  appropriately?
   
   He hesitated.  Gosh, I sounded for real.  I almost
  convinced myself. 
   The
   victim approached warily.
   
   I've got a bunch of PL/SQL packages and some
  outlines to speed up
   the
   queries with special hints.  The scripts are all
  ready for your
   review, they
   include the create statements, the grants,
  everything.  I'm
   forwarding the
   email package to you with signoffs from IT, the
  user department, and
   your
   own from reviewing our design and test results. 
  This last was
   delivered
   with almost pathetic eagerness.  Good boy.  Good,
  simple, foolish
   boy.
   
   If he could see me he'd be terrified by my grin. 
  Joe, I need you to
   help
   me out.  You've just given me 10 minutes of work,
  but I'm due for
   lunch in 5
   minutes.  What do you suggest I do?
   
   Joe knew better, he really did.  But his team had
  been up all night
   finishing and the prize was so close...
   
   Look, I really hate to impose.  But we've missed
  several major
   deadlines,
   and department head has made it clear if we screw
  up again he'll
   outsource
   the whole project and have us laid off.  I need it
  now so we can make
   sure
   everything's perfect for the big production run at
  COB today.
   
   Consider it done,  I promised cheerfully and
  hung up.  I surprised
   him,
   and maybe myself, with my good spirits. 
  Especially since I was more
   than 5
   minutes late, closer to fifteen, and my buddies
  were already into
   their
   second beer when I joined them for lunch.  But the
  extra 10 minutes
   had been
   well worth it considering what I managed to do to
  those hints with
   the
   outline editor.  Just the same, though, I turned
  off my cell phone in
   case
   the twit called to find out why his 5-second
  queries took almost an
   hour.
   Can't have him taking me for granted, can I?
   
   Later that evening, after quaffing several (all
  right, numerous) more
   ales
   with the boys, I dialed in from home to check how
  things were going. 
   Mr.
   Tech Lead was still logged in, no doubt
  desperately trying to
   determine why
   things were taking forever.  Poor Mr. Tech Lead,
  another sleepless
   night.  I
   logged off, turned out the light, and slept like a
  baby.
   
   Next morning, hangover.  The phone rings.  I
  snatch it up angrily...
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Bob Metelsky

 3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the 
 rows you need from each table in Production and import those 
 into Development database. However, it will depend on how 
 easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option 
 (available with Oracle 8i).


Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
method of exporting (using exp)
 I'm familiar with is with 

Tables=

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RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Naveen Nahata

Reverse key index won't help you in ORDER BY DESC, will it?

AFAIK Reverse-key index will store 'Naveen' as 'neevaN' and 'Rich' as 'hciR'
and so won't be helpful in ORDER BY DESC

Regards
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Hey,

Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, I've been
experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# column of AUD$,
since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end with ORDER BY
TIMESTAMP DESC.

In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a non-SYS DBA
schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't come up with any
of my own...

TIA!
Rich

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8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Rachna Vaidya

Gurus!

Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

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Re: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Igor Neyman

You don't need reverse index to do: ORDER BY TIMSTAMP DESC.  Regular
index should do it, even if you want it DESC.

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 Hey,

 Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, I've been
 experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# column of
AUD$,
 since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end with ORDER BY
 TIMESTAMP DESC.

 In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a non-SYS DBA
 schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't come up with
any
 of my own...

 TIA!
 Rich

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RE: Utl_file and OPENVMS

2002-10-01 Thread Baswannappa, Shiva

Make sure you have the directory name entry covered in INIT.ORA

e.g. 

utl_file_dir = D:\directory name1
utl_file_dir = D:\directory name2
utl_file_dir = D:\directory name3

You need one entry per directory that you want to write to using UTL_FILE
Package

Hope this helps

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the vms user oracle needs rights to the directory.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/02 10:53AM 
List,
 I have a package that creates files on the server. The directory
location and file name are obtained from tables in oracle. The procedure
works as designed on Novell 7.3.4  and no changes were needed when the
database way loaded on Linux Oracle 8.1.7. I am trying to move the
database from the Novell to an OPENVMS Oracle 8.1.7 server and I can't
get the package to write the files to the OS directory.
 The package is created by the Oracle user DTSUSER and executed by
DTSUSER. There is no OPENVMS user DTSUSER.
The sysadmin assures me that the permissions are correct to write to
the directory.
I have place a Dbms_output in the package to display the directory
information and it looks correct.
 Is there anything different that has to be done to an OPENVMS server
that will allow a package to write to a directory using the Utl_File
package?


Listing from the Oracle tables:

DTS_PARAMETER_NAME DTS_PARAMETER_VALUE 

-- --  

LOAD_USERIDLOADITUP

LOAD_PASSWORD  ILOADIT 

LOAD_SERVICE_NAME  GLC_ALPHADEV-TCP

LOAD_PAR_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.PAR]   

LOAD_DATA_FILE_DIR Disk1:[Pro_ics.Iqfiles] 

LOAD_CONTROL_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.CONTROL]   

LOAD_LOG_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.LOG]   

LOAD_BAD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.BAD]   

LOAD_DISCARD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.DISCARD]

Listing from the package that writes the parameter file:

Procedure Create_New_Par_File  
  
  (

   P_Current_Table_Name In  Varchar2  , 
   
   P_Run_Date   In  Date  , 
   
   P_Load_UseridIn  Varchar2  , 
  
   P_Load_Password  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Service_Name  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Par_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Data_File_Dir In  Varchar2  , 
   
   P_Load_Control_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 
 
   P_Load_Log_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Bad_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Discard_File_Dir  In  Varchar2
 
  )

  as   

  Begin

  Declare  

   L_Par_File_Hand  Utl_FIle.File_Type; -- Local variable to
hold the File Pointer for the parameter file.   
   
   
   
  Begin  
   I PLACED A DBMS_OUTPUT STATEMENT HERE AND IT DISPLAYED THE
   PROPER DIRECTORY LOCATION FOR THE FILE TO BE WRITT
EN TO.
-- Open a new parameter file
  
L_Par_File_Hand :=
Utl_File.Fopen(P_Load_Par_File_Dir,P_Current_Table_Name||'.PAR','w');   
  
-- Print the following lines into the parameter file.   
  
Utl_File.Put

RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

Yes, you are obviously correct.  I really need to RTFM.  sigh  Too many
pots on the stove!

Just a regular index, then.  Any other input?

Thx!
Rich

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 -Original Message-
 From: Naveen Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:49 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Indexing SYS tables
 
 
 Reverse key index won't help you in ORDER BY DESC, will it?
 
 AFAIK Reverse-key index will store 'Naveen' as 'neevaN' and 
 'Rich' as 'hciR'
 and so won't be helpful in ORDER BY DESC
 
 Regards
 Naveen
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:58 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hey,
 
 Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, 
 I've been
 experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# 
 column of AUD$,
 since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end 
 with ORDER BY
 TIMESTAMP DESC.
 
 In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a 
 non-SYS DBA
 schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't 
 come up with any
 of my own...
 
 TIA!
 Rich
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RE: Perl::DBI problems after charset change

2002-10-01 Thread Jared . Still

Rich,

Though I've never had this problem with Perl, I have had it with SAP.

If NLS_LANG is set incorrectly at the client, it won't work.

In your Perl:

   $ENV{NLS_LANG} = 'whatever';

Try it, you might like it.  :)

Jared





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No, but it shouldn't matter, should it?  Isn't Oracle supposed to convert
between different NLS_LANGs on server and client?  I would think that 
would
be shown by the fact that SQL*Plus works just fine from the same client.

Thx,
Rich

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 Subject: Re: Perl::DBI problems after charset change
 
 
 Rich,
 
 Do you have export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1 in 
 the client
 environment where perl is running?
 
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Oracle 8.1.6.2/HP-UX 11i/Reorg IOT

2002-10-01 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

Hi Gang!

Is there any trick, or any gotchas, for re-orging IOT-style tables?
I have one that's growing, and the initial builder put PCTINCREASE
at 100 and I cannot change it with an ALTER TABLE.

Any suggestions?  Docos?  Magic potions?

Thanks,
Mike

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RE: RE: Setting Cursor Sharing = Force in 8.1.7.3

2002-10-01 Thread rmaurino

We are in 8.1.7.0 and the bug 2225065 is not there.


From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:27:34 -0500 
Subject: RE: Setting Cursor Sharing = Force in 8.1.7.3 

Nat, 

We are currently using CS=F on 8.1.7.2 and we'll be patching to 8.1.7.4 
soon. You need to be made aware of some severe problems with this in 8i. 
We've run across BUG 2225065 listed on MetaLink. It says that you can 
actually get incorrect results in certain queries when using CS=F. Luckily 
one of our developers noticed the very subtle problem and we were able to 
use ALTER SESSION SET CURSOR_SHARING=EXACT for his particular program. The 
catch is finding all the affected queries! 

Also, we get sporadic ORA-600s that can be attributed to CS=F, but it hasn't 
been a showstopper yet. For more CS=F issues, you will want to check 
Metalink doc 120607.1. It has pointers to the docs that have all the fixes 
for all the 8.1.7.x releases. There are a few important fixes in .3 and .4. 
Offhand, I don't remember if the BUG I mentioned is fixed in either release. 
.

HTH! GL! :) 

Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator 
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 -Original Message- 
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 Subject: Setting Cursor Sharing = Force in 8.1.7.3 
 
 
 We are looking into setting up cursor_sharing parameter to FORCE. Has 
 anyone seen any bad effects of setting Cursor_sharing=FORCE. 
 Are there any 
 real bad effects of setting it..? 
 
 I was thinking of going back to my developers and make them use bind 
 variables in their code. 
 If I set the above parameter, they may continue to develop 
 their code the 
 way it is now. 
 
 Let me know what you all think about it.. 
 
 Thanks in advance, 


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Re: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Ray Stell

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:48:33AM -0800, Rachna Vaidya wrote:
 Gurus!
 
 Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
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RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Naveen Nahata

Again since the indexes store the row in ordered fashion, I guess a normal
index should be able to do ORDER BY DESC by reading backwards

Not sure though

Regards
Naveen

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Yes, you are obviously correct.  I really need to RTFM.  sigh  Too many
pots on the stove!

Just a regular index, then.  Any other input?

Thx!
Rich

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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 -Original Message-
 From: Naveen Nahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:49 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Indexing SYS tables
 
 
 Reverse key index won't help you in ORDER BY DESC, will it?
 
 AFAIK Reverse-key index will store 'Naveen' as 'neevaN' and 
 'Rich' as 'hciR'
 and so won't be helpful in ORDER BY DESC
 
 Regards
 Naveen
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:58 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hey,
 
 Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, 
 I've been
 experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# 
 column of AUD$,
 since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end 
 with ORDER BY
 TIMESTAMP DESC.
 
 In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a 
 non-SYS DBA
 schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't 
 come up with any
 of my own...
 
 TIA!
 Rich
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RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Rich,

I think you're crazy adding indexes SYS tables.  I would *never* add
anything to sys objects.  What are you going to do the first time something
goes wrong and you call Oracle support and you mention you added an index
and they say - hey, you're on your own!  Not to mention that when you
perform an upgrade, that this index may either get lost or be in the way.

No, a totally bad idea.

If anything, I would copy the audit records to a local table in your schema,
and then index that baby anyway I'd like.  That way, the system objects are
the way that Oracle inteneded them to be.

Just my 2 cents.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Hey,

Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, I've been
experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# column of AUD$,
since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end with ORDER BY
TIMESTAMP DESC.

In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a non-SYS DBA
schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't come up with any
of my own...

TIA!
Rich

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RE: disable validate on a partitioned table?

2002-10-01 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: disable validate on a partitioned table?






-Original Message-
From: Khedr, Waleed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
This is probably b/c the unique key does not include the partitioning key.


The unique key did include the partitioning key. Here is my example (Oracle 8.1.7.2.1 on Windows 2000)


SQL create table country (country_founded date, country_name varchar2 (30)) 
2 partition by range (country_founded) 
3 (partition country_p1 values less than (to_date ('+15000101', 'SMMDD')), 
4 partition country_p2 values less than (maxvalue) 
5 ) ; 
Table créée. 


SQL insert into country (country_founded, country_name) 
2 values (to_date ('12910801', 'MMDD'), 'Switzerland') ; 
1 ligne créée. 


SQL insert into country (country_founded, country_name) 
2 values (to_date ('17760704', 'MMDD'), 'United States of America') ; 
1 ligne créée. 


SQL commit ; 
Validation effectuée. 


SQL alter table country add (constraint country_uq1 unique (country_founded) disable validate) ; 
Table modifiée. 


SQL create table country_temp (country_founded date, country_name varchar2 (30)) ; 
Table créée. 


SQL insert into country_temp (country_founded, country_name) 
2 values (to_date ('19600820', 'MMDD'), 'Senegal') ; 
1 ligne créée. 


SQL commit ; 
Validation effectuée. 


SQL alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with table country_temp ; 
alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with table country_temp 
* 
ERREUR à la ligne 1 : 
ORA-25132: contrainte UNIQUE (JRK.COUNTRY_UQ1) désactivée et validée dans ALTER TABLE EXCHANGE 
PARTITION 


SQL alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with table country_temp 
2 without validation ; 
alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with table country_temp 
* 
ERREUR à la ligne 1 : 
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PARTITION 





RE: extremely long parse time

2002-10-01 Thread Jared . Still

Matt,

Have you done a 10053 trace on this query?

Jared






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OK, I think we're on to something here. 
The DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS shows no rows for tables 
owned by sys (although strangely, owner is not a column 
of this table).  However, the DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS view IS 
listing objects owned by SYS, which implies that they have 
been analyzed in the past. 
Since I don't see any of the statisics filled in on the 
DBA_TABLES entries for tables owned by SYS, what would 
you recommend doing at this point? 
analyze table sys.X delete statistics? 


 
Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hmmm...anything SYS in DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS or DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS? 
Is the COST column in your PLAN_TABLE null??? 
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI 
USA 
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

We are using First_rows for the optimizer mode, 
but the last_analyzed column in DBA_TABLES and 
DBA_INDEXES is NULL for all objects owned by SYS. 
The really wierd part is:  Changing the query 
to use rule based optimization (via the /*+ RULE */ hint 
caused it to execute sub-second. 
Why would optimization mode affect parsing?  Is query 
optimization considered part of the parsing routine? 
Matt 


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RE: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Miller, Jay

If you have java installed be aware that there are a lot of changes with
8.1.7.  If you have problems with the upgrade you *cannot* simply run
rmjvm.sql and initjvm.sql

There are two documents on removing and installing java which are must reads
(I don't have the numbers handy, sorry).  Allow a lot of time for the java
upgrade.

In the end I found it easier to remove java and do a fresh install (it
helped that we weren't actually using it outside of development at the
time).

Good luck!
Jay Miller

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Gurus!

Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

Thanks,

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RE: extremely long parse time

2002-10-01 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: extremely long parse time





I know what a 10046 trace does. What's
a 10053 trace?



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Matt,


Have you done a 10053 trace on this query?


Jared







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OK, I think we're on to something here. 
The DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS shows no rows for tables 
owned by sys (although strangely, owner is not a column 
of this table). However, the DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS view IS 
listing objects owned by SYS, which implies that they have 
been analyzed in the past. 
Since I don't see any of the statisics filled in on the 
DBA_TABLES entries for tables owned by SYS, what would 
you recommend doing at this point? 
analyze table sys.X delete statistics? 



 
Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Their fundamental design flaws are completely 
hidden by their superficial design flaws. 
 - Douglas Adams 
-Original Message- 
From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:27 PM 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Cc: Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) 
Subject: RE: extremely long parse time 


Hmmm...anything SYS in DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS or DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS? 
Is the COST column in your PLAN_TABLE null??? 
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI 
USA 
-Original Message- 
From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:38 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Subject: RE: extremely long parse time 


We are using First_rows for the optimizer mode, 
but the last_analyzed column in DBA_TABLES and 
DBA_INDEXES is NULL for all objects owned by SYS. 
The really wierd part is: Changing the query 
to use rule based optimization (via the /*+ RULE */ hint 
caused it to execute sub-second. 
Why would optimization mode affect parsing? Is query 
optimization considered part of the parsing routine? 
Matt 





RE: DBA work load

2002-10-01 Thread Miller, Jay

Actually I called the group that handles 24 hour monitoring and emailed
anyone else who might potentially be interested (hence getting in early the
next day).

The next day I was called on the carpet because I didn't get the name of the
person I spoke with the previous night and they had to wait for the night
shift to come in to find out who I spoke with to put it in their report.

My boss' boss reads Dilbert as a management guide...


Jay Miller

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Must say I liked Inka's notion of calling all interested parties with
details, though it could be income threatening =:-0
Maybe a compromise would be to agree some type of SOP for such situations
and have the interested callers list put in there. I mean if they are so
keen to know first thing next morning...
OTOH, why not send a summary e-mail to interested parties and tell them
you'll fill in any gaps when you have caught up on lost time.  If the
problem has been resolved, details of how are of a mainly historical nature
anyhow - right?

Tim: Can you give me the ISBN's to some of your novels.  What!!! You haven't
written any yet! - A waste of talent ;)
Thanks for the homour in any case.

PS: The BDBAFH has gone right over my head.  My psyche is suggesting it's
profane.  What does it stand for?
 
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RE: extremely long parse time

2002-10-01 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Title: RE: extremely long parse time




It reports all the parameter settings and the base 
statisticsthat Oracle takes into account when choosing a plan.

  -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 
  088130) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 
  2002 12:56 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: extremely long parse time
  I know what a 10046 trace does. What's a 10053 trace? 
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Their fundamental design flaws 
  are completely hidden by their superficial design 
  flaws.  - Douglas 
  Adams 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Adams, Matthew 
  (GEA, MABG, 088130) Subject: RE: extremely long parse 
  time Importance: High 
  Matt, 
  Have you done a 10053 trace on this query? 
  Jared 
  "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" 
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  Subject: RE: extremely long parse 
  time 
  OK, I think we're on to something here. The DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS shows no rows for tables owned by sys (although strangely, owner is not a column 
  of this table). However, the DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS 
  view IS listing objects owned by SYS, which implies 
  that they have been analyzed in the past. 
  Since I don't see any of the statisics filled in on 
  the DBA_TABLES entries for tables owned by SYS, what 
  would you recommend doing at this point? 
  "analyze table sys.X delete statistics"? 
  
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Their fundamental design flaws 
  are completely hidden by their superficial design 
  flaws.  - Douglas Adams 
  -Original Message- From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:27 PM 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 
  Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) Subject: RE: 
  extremely long parse time 
  Hmmm...anything SYS in DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS or 
  DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS? Is the COST column in your 
  PLAN_TABLE null??? Rich 
  Jesse 
  System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA 
  -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:38 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Subject: RE: extremely long parse time 
  We are using First_rows for the optimizer mode, 
  but the last_analyzed column in DBA_TABLES and 
  DBA_INDEXES is NULL for all objects owned by SYS. 
  The really wierd part is: Changing the query 
  to use rule based optimization (via the /*+ RULE */ 
  hint caused it to execute sub-second. Why would optimization mode affect parsing? Is query 
  optimization considered part of the parsing routine? 
  Matt 


RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Inka Bezdziecka

Oracle Corporation has a peculiar habit of providing scripts and solutions which it 
does not  support  officially. One of them is moving sys.aud$ out of SYSTEM 
tablespace. See note 1019377.6 on MetaLink.

inka

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Rich,

I think you're crazy adding indexes SYS tables.  I would *never* add
anything to sys objects.  What are you going to do the first time something
goes wrong and you call Oracle support and you mention you added an index
and they say - hey, you're on your own!  Not to mention that when you
perform an upgrade, that this index may either get lost or be in the way.

No, a totally bad idea.

If anything, I would copy the audit records to a local table in your schema,
and then index that baby anyway I'd like.  That way, the system objects are
the way that Oracle inteneded them to be.

Just my 2 cents.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Hey,

Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, I've been
experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# column of AUD$,
since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end with ORDER BY
TIMESTAMP DESC.

In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a non-SYS DBA
schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't come up with any
of my own...

TIA!
Rich

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RE: extremely long parse time

2002-10-01 Thread John Kanagaraj

Thats a CBO trace. Have fun trying to read it :)  Actually, there was an
excellent presentation from a Wolfgang Breitling on this very topic at IOUG.
And I believe Cary's site carries it (hotsos.com).
 
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I know what a 10046 trace does. What's 
a 10053 trace? 

 
Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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hidden by their superficial design flaws. 
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Matt, 

Have you done a 10053 trace on this query? 

Jared 






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OK, I think we're on to something here. 
The DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS shows no rows for tables 
owned by sys (although strangely, owner is not a column 
of this table).  However, the DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS view IS 
listing objects owned by SYS, which implies that they have 
been analyzed in the past. 
Since I don't see any of the statisics filled in on the 
DBA_TABLES entries for tables owned by SYS, what would 
you recommend doing at this point? 
analyze table sys.X delete statistics? 


 
Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Their fundamental design flaws are completely 
hidden by their superficial design flaws. 
  - Douglas Adams 
-Original Message- 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:27 PM 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Cc: Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) 

Hmmm...anything SYS in DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS or DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS? 
Is the COST column in your PLAN_TABLE null??? 
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI 
USA 
-Original Message- 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:38 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

We are using First_rows for the optimizer mode, 
but the last_analyzed column in DBA_TABLES and 
DBA_INDEXES is NULL for all objects owned by SYS. 
The really wierd part is:  Changing the query 
to use rule based optimization (via the /*+ RULE */ hint 
caused it to execute sub-second. 
Why would optimization mode affect parsing?  Is query 
optimization considered part of the parsing routine? 
Matt 

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RE: Utl_file and OPENVMS

2002-10-01 Thread Gene Sais

i believe its 

utl_file_dir=dir1,dir2,dir3,...

in your example, dir 3 would be the only valid dir.

hth,
gene

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/02 12:53PM 
Make sure you have the directory name entry covered in INIT.ORA

e.g. 

utl_file_dir = D:\directory name1
utl_file_dir = D:\directory name2
utl_file_dir = D:\directory name3

You need one entry per directory that you want to write to using UTL_FILE
Package

Hope this helps

Regards

Shiva




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the vms user oracle needs rights to the directory.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/02 10:53AM 
List,
 I have a package that creates files on the server. The directory
location and file name are obtained from tables in oracle. The procedure
works as designed on Novell 7.3.4  and no changes were needed when the
database way loaded on Linux Oracle 8.1.7. I am trying to move the
database from the Novell to an OPENVMS Oracle 8.1.7 server and I can't
get the package to write the files to the OS directory.
 The package is created by the Oracle user DTSUSER and executed by
DTSUSER. There is no OPENVMS user DTSUSER.
The sysadmin assures me that the permissions are correct to write to
the directory.
I have place a Dbms_output in the package to display the directory
information and it looks correct.
 Is there anything different that has to be done to an OPENVMS server
that will allow a package to write to a directory using the Utl_File
package?


Listing from the Oracle tables:

DTS_PARAMETER_NAME DTS_PARAMETER_VALUE 

-- --  

LOAD_USERIDLOADITUP

LOAD_PASSWORD  ILOADIT 

LOAD_SERVICE_NAME  GLC_ALPHADEV-TCP

LOAD_PAR_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.PAR]   

LOAD_DATA_FILE_DIR Disk1:[Pro_ics.Iqfiles] 

LOAD_CONTROL_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.CONTROL]   

LOAD_LOG_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.LOG]   

LOAD_BAD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.BAD]   

LOAD_DISCARD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.DISCARD]

Listing from the package that writes the parameter file:

Procedure Create_New_Par_File  
  
  (

   P_Current_Table_Name In  Varchar2  , 
   
   P_Run_Date   In  Date  , 
   
   P_Load_UseridIn  Varchar2  , 
  
   P_Load_Password  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Service_Name  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Par_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Data_File_Dir In  Varchar2  , 
   
   P_Load_Control_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 
 
   P_Load_Log_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Bad_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  , 

   P_Load_Discard_File_Dir  In  Varchar2
 
  )

  as   

  Begin

  Declare  

   L_Par_File_Hand  Utl_FIle.File_Type; -- Local variable to
hold the File Pointer for the parameter file.   
   
   
   
  Begin  
   I PLACED A DBMS_OUTPUT STATEMENT HERE AND IT DISPLAYED THE
   PROPER DIRECTORY LOCATION FOR THE FILE TO BE WRITT
EN TO.
-- Open a new parameter file
  
L_Par_File_Hand :=
Utl_File.Fopen(P_Load_Par_File_Dir,P_Current_Table_Name||'.PAR','w');   
  
-- Print 

RE: extremely long parse time

2002-10-01 Thread Inka Bezdziecka
Title: RE: extremely long parse time



It is useddiagnosing optimiser problems. The trace 
showsthe optimiser access 
path.One of those "should NOT be 
used unless explicitly requested by support"and not documented features.

inka

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  088130) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 
  2002 1:56 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: extremely long parse time
  I know what a 10046 trace does. What's a 10053 trace? 
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Their fundamental design flaws 
  are completely hidden by their superficial design 
  flaws.  - Douglas 
  Adams 
  -Original Message- From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Adams, Matthew 
  (GEA, MABG, 088130) Subject: RE: extremely long parse 
  time Importance: High 
  Matt, 
  Have you done a 10053 trace on this query? 
  Jared 
  "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: 
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   cc: 
   
  Subject: RE: extremely long parse 
  time 
  OK, I think we're on to something here. The DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS shows no rows for tables owned by sys (although strangely, owner is not a column 
  of this table). However, the DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS 
  view IS listing objects owned by SYS, which implies 
  that they have been analyzed in the past. 
  Since I don't see any of the statisics filled in on 
  the DBA_TABLES entries for tables owned by SYS, what 
  would you recommend doing at this point? 
  "analyze table sys.X delete statistics"? 
  
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Their fundamental design flaws 
  are completely hidden by their superficial design 
  flaws.  - Douglas Adams 
  -Original Message- From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:27 PM 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 
  Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) Subject: RE: 
  extremely long parse time 
  Hmmm...anything SYS in DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS or 
  DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS? Is the COST column in your 
  PLAN_TABLE null??? Rich 
  Jesse 
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  -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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  Subject: RE: extremely long parse time 
  We are using First_rows for the optimizer mode, 
  but the last_analyzed column in DBA_TABLES and 
  DBA_INDEXES is NULL for all objects owned by SYS. 
  The really wierd part is: Changing the query 
  to use rule based optimization (via the /*+ RULE */ 
  hint caused it to execute sub-second. Why would optimization mode affect parsing? Is query 
  optimization considered part of the parsing routine? 
  Matt 


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RE: extremely long parse time

2002-10-01 Thread Rick_Cale


Yes, the site is http://www.hotsos.com/dnloads/1/10053/Breitling2002.pdf.
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Thats a CBO trace. Have fun trying to read it :)  Actually, there was an
excellent presentation from a Wolfgang Breitling on this very topic at
IOUG.
And I believe Cary's site carries it (hotsos.com).

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I know what a 10046 trace does. What's
a 10053 trace?


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hidden by their superficial design flaws.
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Matt,

Have you done a 10053 trace on this query?

Jared






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OK, I think we're on to something here.
The DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS shows no rows for tables
owned by sys (although strangely, owner is not a column
of this table).  However, the DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS view IS
listing objects owned by SYS, which implies that they have
been analyzed in the past.
Since I don't see any of the statisics filled in on the
DBA_TABLES entries for tables owned by SYS, what would
you recommend doing at this point?
analyze table sys.X delete statistics?



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Hmmm...anything SYS in DBA_TAB_COL_STATISTICS or DBA_ANALYZE_OBJECTS?
Is the COST column in your PLAN_TABLE null???
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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We are using First_rows for the optimizer mode,
but the last_analyzed column in DBA_TABLES and
DBA_INDEXES is NULL for all objects owned by SYS.
The really wierd part is:  Changing the query
to use rule based optimization (via the /*+ RULE */ hint
caused it to execute sub-second.
Why would optimization mode affect parsing?  Is query
optimization considered part of the parsing routine?
Matt

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RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Rachel Carmichael

and the latest I have heard is that they no longer will support moving
AUD$. Even though it's listed on MetaLink


--- Inka Bezdziecka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oracle Corporation has a peculiar habit of providing scripts and
 solutions which it does not  support  officially. One of them is
 moving sys.aud$ out of SYSTEM tablespace. See note 1019377.6 on
 MetaLink.
 
 inka
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:18 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Rich,
 
 I think you're crazy adding indexes SYS tables.  I would *never* add
 anything to sys objects.  What are you going to do the first time
 something
 goes wrong and you call Oracle support and you mention you added an
 index
 and they say - hey, you're on your own!  Not to mention that when you
 perform an upgrade, that this index may either get lost or be in the
 way.
 
 No, a totally bad idea.
 
 If anything, I would copy the audit records to a local table in your
 schema,
 and then index that baby anyway I'd like.  That way, the system
 objects are
 the way that Oracle inteneded them to be.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:28 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hey,
 
 Anyone have any advice on indexing SYS tables?  Specifically, I've
 been
 experimenting with putting a reverse index on the TIMESTAMP# column
 of AUD$,
 since almost all of my queries against the AUD$ views end with ORDER
 BY
 TIMESTAMP DESC.
 
 In 8.1.7.4.0 test DBs on HP/UX, the index -- created under a non-SYS
 DBA
 schema -- works great.  I'm looking for pitfalls, but can't come up
 with any
 of my own...
 
 TIA!
 Rich
 
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RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

Thanks, Tom.  That's the kind of feedback I'm looking for.  Anyone else?

Rich

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 -Original Message-
 From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:18 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Indexing SYS tables
 
 
 Rich,
 
 I think you're crazy adding indexes SYS tables.  I would *never* add
 anything to sys objects.  What are you going to do the first 
 time something
 goes wrong and you call Oracle support and you mention you 
 added an index
 and they say - hey, you're on your own!  Not to mention that when you
 perform an upgrade, that this index may either get lost or be 
 in the way.
 
 No, a totally bad idea.
 
 If anything, I would copy the audit records to a local table 
 in your schema,
 and then index that baby anyway I'd like.  That way, the 
 system objects are
 the way that Oracle inteneded them to be.
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RE: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

I also found that I had to use SVRMGRL instead of SQLPLUS
when doing the Java install.  Dunno why.  HP-UX 11.0 and 11i.
I think it takes so long because it is reloading and revalidating
the whole entire Java library.  I guessing.

My 2¢ worth...

Mike

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If you have java installed be aware that there are a lot of changes with
8.1.7.  If you have problems with the upgrade you *cannot* simply run
rmjvm.sql and initjvm.sql

There are two documents on removing and installing java which are must reads
(I don't have the numbers handy, sorry).  Allow a lot of time for the java
upgrade.

In the end I found it easier to remove java and do a fresh install (it
helped that we weren't actually using it outside of development at the
time).

Good luck!
Jay Miller

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Gurus!

Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

Thanks,

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Re: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-10-01 Thread Stephane Faroult

LOL.

  Any Cicely Mary Barker JPEG of the fairy to put on my desk ?


Connor McDonald wrote:
 
 My favourite when they come to your desk...
 
 Ah, I see the f..k up fairy has come to visit
 
 (Apologies for profanity)
 
 :-)
 
  --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Paula,
 
  It  just takes practice. You can learn to say no. I
  did. You just have
  to work up to it :)
 
  You start with:
 
  If I do that for you now, I will fall behind x days
  on the critical
  project I am working on for you
 
  move on to:
 
  I'm sorry. I have too much to do
 
  then to:
 
  not gonna happen
 
  and finally, either of the following:
 
  what part of the word NO don't you understand?
 
  or (my personal favorite)
 
  failure to plan on your part does not constitute an
  emergency on mine
 
 
  Try it, you'll like it
 
 
 
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   H.  How come I always seem to be the DBA who
  can't say no - you
   don't
   seem to have that problem at all.
  
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   The phone rings.  Another user.  Still pissed off,
  I pick it up...
  
   Database Administration, can I help you? I
  answer professionally.
  
   Troubled silence on the phone.  Politeness is a
  very bad signal from
   me and
   they know it.  He was rattled.
  
   Uh, hi, this is Joe, technical lead on that
  super-critical project
   for
   Benefits?  Is this a good time?  I have some stuff
  I need moved to
   production?
  
   The last was a statement, but it came out like a
  question.  With a
   slight
   quaver in the voice, too.  Excellent.  Technical
  lead my arse.
  
   Could you be more specific so I can schedule you
  appropriately?
  
   He hesitated.  Gosh, I sounded for real.  I almost
  convinced myself.
   The
   victim approached warily.
  
   I've got a bunch of PL/SQL packages and some
  outlines to speed up
   the
   queries with special hints.  The scripts are all
  ready for your
   review, they
   include the create statements, the grants,
  everything.  I'm
   forwarding the
   email package to you with signoffs from IT, the
  user department, and
   your
   own from reviewing our design and test results.
  This last was
   delivered
   with almost pathetic eagerness.  Good boy.  Good,
  simple, foolish
   boy.
  
   If he could see me he'd be terrified by my grin.
  Joe, I need you to
   help
   me out.  You've just given me 10 minutes of work,
  but I'm due for
   lunch in 5
   minutes.  What do you suggest I do?
  
   Joe knew better, he really did.  But his team had
  been up all night
   finishing and the prize was so close...
  
   Look, I really hate to impose.  But we've missed
  several major
   deadlines,
   and department head has made it clear if we screw
  up again he'll
   outsource
   the whole project and have us laid off.  I need it
  now so we can make
   sure
   everything's perfect for the big production run at
  COB today.
  
   Consider it done,  I promised cheerfully and
  hung up.  I surprised
   him,
   and maybe myself, with my good spirits.
  Especially since I was more
   than 5
   minutes late, closer to fifteen, and my buddies
  were already into
   their
   second beer when I joined them for lunch.  But the
  extra 10 minutes
   had been
   well worth it considering what I managed to do to
  those hints with
   the
   outline editor.  Just the same, though, I turned
  off my cell phone in
   case
   the twit called to find out why his 5-second
  queries took almost an
   hour.
   Can't have him taking me for granted, can I?
  
   Later that evening, after quaffing several (all
  right, numerous) more
   ales
   with the boys, I dialed in from home to check how
  things were going.
   Mr.
   Tech Lead was still logged in, no doubt
  desperately trying to
   determine why
   things were taking forever.  Poor Mr. Tech Lead,
  another sleepless
   night.  I
   logged off, turned out the light, and slept like a
  baby.
  
   Next morning, hangover.  The phone rings.  I
  snatch it up angrily...
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RE: disable validate on a partitioned table?

2002-10-01 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: RE: disable validate on a partitioned table?



Try 
this before exchanging segments:

alter 
table country_temp add (constraint country_uq2 unique (country_founded) disable 
validate) ;

Waleed

  -Original Message-From: Jacques Kilchoer 
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  RE: disable validate on a partitioned table?
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  Khedr, Waleed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   This is probably b/c the 
  unique key does not include the partitioning key. 
  The unique key did include the partitioning key. Here is my 
  example (Oracle 8.1.7.2.1 on Windows 2000) 
  SQL create table country (country_founded date, 
  country_name varchar2 (30)) 2 partition by range 
  (country_founded) 3 (partition country_p1 values less 
  than (to_date ('+15000101', 'SMMDD')), 4 partition 
  country_p2 values less than (maxvalue) 5 ) ; 
  Table créée. 
  SQL insert into country (country_founded, country_name) 
  2 values (to_date ('12910801', 'MMDD'), 
  'Switzerland') ; 1 ligne créée. 
  SQL insert into country (country_founded, country_name) 
  2 values (to_date ('17760704', 'MMDD'), 'United 
  States of America') ; 1 ligne créée. 
  SQL commit ; Validation effectuée. 
  
  SQL alter table country add (constraint country_uq1 unique 
  (country_founded) disable validate) ; Table modifiée. 
  
  SQL create table country_temp (country_founded date, 
  country_name varchar2 (30)) ; Table créée. 
  SQL insert into country_temp (country_founded, 
  country_name) 2 values (to_date ('19600820', 
  'MMDD'), 'Senegal') ; 1 ligne créée. 
  SQL commit ; Validation effectuée. 
  
  SQL alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with 
  table country_temp ; alter table country exchange 
  partition country_p2 with table country_temp * 
  ERREUR à la ligne 1 : ORA-25132: contrainte UNIQUE (JRK.COUNTRY_UQ1) désactivée et validée 
  dans ALTER TABLE EXCHANGE PARTITION 
  SQL alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with 
  table country_temp 2 without validation ; 
  alter table country exchange partition country_p2 with 
  table country_temp * ERREUR à 
  la ligne 1 : ORA-25132: contrainte UNIQUE 
  (JRK.COUNTRY_UQ1) désactivée et validée dans ALTER TABLE EXCHANGE 
  PARTITION 


RE: Perl::DBI problems after charset change

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

Interesting.  Depressing, but interesting.  In Korn:

export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1

...and all's well with SQL*Plus.  But with Perl/DBI:

DBI-connect failed: ORA-12705: invalid or unknown NLS parameter value
specified (DBD: login failed) at ./cursor_sharing_yes.pl line 17
Can't call method prepare on an undefined value at ./cursor_sharing_yes.pl
line 32.

I can't win.

Rich

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 Subject: RE: Perl::DBI problems after charset change
 
 
 Rich,
 
 Though I've never had this problem with Perl, I have had it with SAP.
 
 If NLS_LANG is set incorrectly at the client, it won't work.
 
 In your Perl:
 
$ENV{NLS_LANG} = 'whatever';
 
 Try it, you might like it.  :)
 
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RE: Utl_file and OPENVMS

2002-10-01 Thread Ron Rogers

Thanks to all of you for the assistance.
 I have the package working by coding the directory into the
utl_file.fopen command and the files are being created okay. I got the
batch procedure to work with the SQLLDR command( I did not know you had
to set noon and each line starts with a $). It works okay as a database.
It takes 5 min 48 sec to load 20 different tables with a total of 178000
rows.
 When I get the database up to date the developers will test their
applications and I will start making the production server.
Thanks,
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/02 02:25PM 
i believe its 

utl_file_dir=dir1,dir2,dir3,...

in your example, dir 3 would be the only valid dir.

hth,
gene

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/02 12:53PM 
Make sure you have the directory name entry covered in INIT.ORA

e.g. 

utl_file_dir = D:\directory name1
utl_file_dir = D:\directory name2
utl_file_dir = D:\directory name3

You need one entry per directory that you want to write to using
UTL_FILE
Package

Hope this helps

Regards

Shiva




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the vms user oracle needs rights to the directory.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/02 10:53AM 
List,
 I have a package that creates files on the server. The directory
location and file name are obtained from tables in oracle. The
procedure
works as designed on Novell 7.3.4  and no changes were needed when the
database way loaded on Linux Oracle 8.1.7. I am trying to move the
database from the Novell to an OPENVMS Oracle 8.1.7 server and I can't
get the package to write the files to the OS directory.
 The package is created by the Oracle user DTSUSER and executed by
DTSUSER. There is no OPENVMS user DTSUSER.
The sysadmin assures me that the permissions are correct to write to
the directory.
I have place a Dbms_output in the package to display the directory
information and it looks correct.
 Is there anything different that has to be done to an OPENVMS server
that will allow a package to write to a directory using the Utl_File
package?


Listing from the Oracle tables:

DTS_PARAMETER_NAME DTS_PARAMETER_VALUE


-- -- 


LOAD_USERIDLOADITUP   


LOAD_PASSWORD  ILOADIT


LOAD_SERVICE_NAME  GLC_ALPHADEV-TCP   


LOAD_PAR_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.PAR]  


LOAD_DATA_FILE_DIR Disk1:[Pro_ics.Iqfiles]


LOAD_CONTROL_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.CONTROL]  


LOAD_LOG_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.LOG]  


LOAD_BAD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.BAD]  


LOAD_DISCARD_FILE_DIR  ORADSK:[ORACLE8.DATA.DISCARD]

Listing from the package that writes the parameter file:

Procedure Create_New_Par_File 

  
  (   


   P_Current_Table_Name In  Varchar2  ,

   
   P_Run_Date   In  Date  ,

   
   P_Load_UseridIn  Varchar2  ,

  
   P_Load_Password  In  Varchar2  ,


   P_Load_Service_Name  In  Varchar2  ,


   P_Load_Par_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  ,


   P_Load_Data_File_Dir I
n   Varchar2  ,

   
   P_Load_Control_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  ,

 
   P_Load_Log_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  ,


   P_Load_Bad_File_Dir  In  Varchar2  ,


   P_Load_Discard_File_Dir  In  Varchar2   

 
  )   


  as  


  Begin   


  Declare 


   L_Par_File_Hand  Utl_FIle.File_Type; -- Local variable to
hold the File 

RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Here is how: 

exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and sal\1600\  

When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT statement similar to
this: 
SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600; 

(From Utilities Guide)


- Kirti 

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 3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the 
 rows you need from each table in Production and import those 
 into Development database. However, it will depend on how 
 easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option 
 (available with Oracle 8i).


Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
method of exporting (using exp)
 I'm familiar with is with 

Tables=

thanks
bob
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Re: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Ruth Gramolini

This is in 8.1.x and higher, not 8.0.x, right?  Ruth
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 Here is how:

 exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and sal\1600\

 When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT statement similar
to
 this:
 SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600;

 (From Utilities Guide)


 - Kirti

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 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:59 AM
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  3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the
  rows you need from each table in Production and import those
  into Development database. However, it will depend on how
  easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option
  (available with Oracle 8i).


 Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
 method of exporting (using exp)
  I'm familiar with is with

 Tables=

 thanks
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RE: 7.3.2 -7.3.4.4

2002-10-01 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hope this helps.. look for Upgrading Oracle7 databases... 
http://www.bijoos.com/oratom/ot_200101.htm

Google



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Hi  Friends,


I had one of the oracle production database with 7.3.2 on AIX, I want to go 
7.3.4 base first and apply patchset 7.3.4.4. Could any body have document 
that takes me step by step process!! The documentation is there in CDs, But 
not step by step process!!

Thanks in advance
peter.


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SQL Backtrack Reports

2002-10-01 Thread Smith, Ron L.

If anyone out there is using SQL Backtrack to backup Oracle I am looking for
a home grown reporting
script that will give me start and stop times for all the backups on the log
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Right, you are!

- Kirti

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This is in 8.1.x and higher, not 8.0.x, right?  Ruth


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 Here is how:

 exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and sal\1600\

 When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT statement similar
to
 this:
 SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600;

 (From Utilities Guide)


 - Kirti

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:59 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


  3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the
  rows you need from each table in Production and import those
  into Development database. However, it will depend on how
  easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option
  (available with Oracle 8i).


 Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
 method of exporting (using exp)
  I'm familiar with is with

 Tables=

 thanks
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Kirti,

You are always helpful. Just to add further...

It is more easier to use export.par file where you can put query clause very 
easily ie without back slashes like

query= where invdate between '29-DEC-97' and '03-JAN-99'

HTH,

Regards
Rafiq

Note: Bob, this is for 8i and up

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Here is how:

exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and sal\1600\

When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT statement similar to
this:
SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600;

(From Utilities Guide)


- Kirti

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


  3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the
  rows you need from each table in Production and import those
  into Development database. However, it will depend on how
  easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option
  (available with Oracle 8i).


Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
method of exporting (using exp)
  I'm familiar with is with

Tables=

thanks
bob
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Bob Metelsky

 Here is how: 
 
 exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and 
 sal\1600\  
 

Wow! Very cool, thank you...
bob

 When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT 
 statement similar to
 this: 
 SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600; 
 
 (From Utilities Guide)
 
 
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RE: Indexing SYS tables

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

Yes it does, at least on my test instance.

Thanks!
Rich

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 Again since the indexes store the row in ordered fashion, I 
 guess a normal
 index should be able to do ORDER BY DESC by reading backwards
 
 Not sure though
 
 Regards
 Naveen
 
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 Yes, you are obviously correct.  I really need to RTFM.  
 sigh  Too many
 pots on the stove!
 
 Just a regular index, then.  Any other input?
 
 Thx!
 Rich
 
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RE: Perl::DBI problems after charset change (MORE INFO -- longish

2002-10-01 Thread Jesse, Rich

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I think I'm getting somewhere, but the research has given me the security
heebie-jeebies.

As I'm tracing at SUPPORT level on the server side of a test DB (can't trace
on the client because it's production), two major differences pop out at me.

First, the connect packets have the text in a different order:

Perl/DBI:
(CONNECT_DATA=(SID=testsid)(SRVR=DEDICATED)(CID=(PROGRAM=)(HOST=myclient)(US
ER=rjesse)))(ADDRESS_LIST=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=myserver)(PORT=1521))
))

SQL*Plus:
(ADDRESS_LIST=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=myserver)(PORT=1521)))(CONNECT_DA
TA=(SID=testsid)(SRVR=DEDICATED)(CID=(PROGRAM=)(HOST=myclient)(USER=rjesse))
)(FADRL=(FC=)(FG=)))

Second, all other packets to and from Perl/DBI have every byte
zero-terminated, whereas SQL*Plus doesn't.  (Not knowing exactly where the
password is, I've *d out and xxd out some bytes where I believe the
encoded password and some other sensitive data to be)

Perl/DBI:
nsprecv: 267 bytes from transport
nsprecv: tlen=267, plen=267, type=6
nsprecv: packet dump
nsprecv: 01 0B 00 00 06 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: 00 00 03 51 03 00 17 B9  |...Q|
nsprecv: 10 00 00 00 06 00 17 DB  ||
nsprecv: F2 00 00 00 11 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: 00 00 00 00 00 00 17 DD  ||
nsprecv: 6E 00 00 00 05 00 17 DF  |n...|
nsprecv: 6C 00 00 00 04 00 17 DE  |l...|
nsprecv: 6D 00 00 00 06 00 00 08  |m...|
nsprecv: 00 00 17 E0 6B 00 00 00  |k...|
nsprecv: 05 00 17 E1 6A 00 00 00  |j...|
nsprecv: 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  | ...|
nsprecv: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: 00 00 00 00 00 00 xx 00  |..U.|
nsprecv: xx 00 xx 00 xx 00 xx 00  |N.A.M.E.|
nsprecv: xx 00 xx 00 xx 00 xx 00  |1.*.*.*.|
nsprecv: xx 00 xx 00 xx 00 xx 00  |*.*.*.*.|
nsprecv: 42 00 xx 00 44 00 45 00  |B.*.D.E.|
nsprecv: 34 00 41 00 xx 00 38 00  |4.A.8.8.|
nsprecv: 45 00 32 00 70 00 74 00  |E.2.p.t.|
nsprecv: 73 00 2F 00 35 00 xx 00  |s./.5.*.|
nsprecv: xx 00 xx 00 xx 00 72 00  |*.*.*.r.|
nsprecv: 6A 00 65 00 73 00 73 00  |j.e.s.s.|
nsprecv: 65 00 31 00 37 00 30 00  |e.1.7.0.|
nsprecv: 30 00 39 00 63 00 75 00  |0.9.c.u.|
nsprecv: 72 00 73 00 6F 00 72 00  |r.s.o.r.|
nsprecv: 5F 00 73 00 68 00 61 00  |_.s.h.a.|
nsprecv: 72 00 69 00 6E 00 67 00  |r.i.n.g.|
nsprecv: 5F 00 40 00 xx 00 xx 00  |_.@.*.*.|
nsprecv: xx 00 xx 00 20 00 28 00  |*.*. .(.|
nsprecv: 54 00 4E 00 53 00 20 00  |T.N.S. .|
nsprecv: 56 00 31 00 2D 00 56 00  |V.1.-.V.|
nsprecv: 32 00 29 00 00 00 00 00  |2.).|
nsprecv: normal exit

SQL*Plus:
nsprecv: 193 bytes from transport
nsprecv: tlen=193, plen=193, type=6
nsprecv: packet dump
nsprecv: 00 C1 00 00 06 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: 00 00 03 76 02 00 1B 51  |...v...Q|
nsprecv: 20 00 00 00 06 00 00 00  | ...|
nsprecv: 01 FF BE DC 48 00 00 00  |H...|
nsprecv: 04 FF BE DA B8 FF BE DA  ||
nsprecv: B2 xx xx xx xx xx xx 00  |.UNAME1.|
nsprecv: 00 00 0D 0D 41 55 54 48  |AUTH|
nsprecv: 5F 54 45 52 4D 49 4E 41  |_TERMINA|
nsprecv: 4C 00 00 00 05 05 70 74  |L.pt|
nsprecv: 73 2F 35 00 00 00 00 00  |s/5.|
nsprecv: 00 00 13 13 41 55 54 48  |AUTH|
nsprecv: 5F 50 52 4F 47 52 41 4D  |_PROGRAM|
nsprecv: 5F 4E 4D 00 41 55 54 00  |_NM.AUT.|
nsprecv: 00 00 18 18 73 71 6C 70  |sqlp|
nsprecv: 6C 75 73 40 xx xx xx xx  |lus@|
nsprecv: 20 28 54 4E 53 20 56 31  | (TNS V1|
nsprecv: 2D 56 33 29 00 00 00 00  |-V3)|
nsprecv: 00 00 00 0C 0C 41 55 54  |.AUT|
nsprecv: 48 5F 4D 41 43 48 49 4E  |H_MACHIN|
nsprecv: 45 00 00 00 04 04 xx xx  |E.**|
nsprecv: xx xx 00 00 00 00 00 00  |**..|
nsprecv: 00 08 08 41 55 54 48 5F  |...AUTH_|
nsprecv: 50 49 44 00 00 00 05 05  |PID.|
nsprecv: 31 39 32 37 38 00 00 00  |19278...|
nsprecv: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nsprecv: normal exit

From the Perl/DBI session trace, the next packet is the ORA-1017 sent to the
client:

nspsend: 162 bytes to transport
nspsend: packet dump
nspsend: 00 A2 00 00 06 00 00 00  ||
nspsend: 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 03  ||
nspsend: F9 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nspsend: 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00  |...@|
nspsend: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nspsend: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nspsend: 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00  ||
nspsend: FE 40 00 4F 00 52 00 41  |.@.O.R.A|
nspsend: 00 2D 00 30 00 31 00 30  |.-.0.1.0|
nspsend: 00 31 00 37 00 3A 00 20  |.1.7.:. |
nspsend: 00 69 00 6E 00 76 00 61  |.i.n.v.a|
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Help find pk dependencies 7.3.4 db

2002-10-01 Thread Lisa R. Clary

I am trying to find out for a given table the column names for the parent
table to which the referential integrity is built upon. for example, table B
has primary keys=id, date_exam  that are a foreign keys to table a, which
has variable name pt_id, date_start. This is the query to deliver the pieces
of information, but as soon as I remove the comment line (as I only want one
line per return), it becomes a run-away and chews up the temp space. I have
looked at this for so long that I am probably missing the obvious.
Any thoughts?

select o.constraint_name ownerconstraint, o.table_name
ownertable,r1.position, r1.column_name, r.constraint_name, r2.position,
r2.column_name
 from all_constraints o,
  (select constraint_name, column_name, position from all_cons_columns )
r1,
  all_constraints r,
  (select constraint_name, column_name, position from all_cons_columns)
r2
 where o.constraint_name=r1.constraint_name and
   o.constraint_type='R' and
   o.r_constraint_name  = r.constraint_name and
   r.constraint_name = r2.constraint_name and
 ---  r1.position= r2.position and
   o.table_name='NEURO_ASSESSMENT'
 order by o.constraint_name, o.table_name;

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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Rafiq,
 Thanks. 
 Absolutely, using par file has many such advantages (hiding
username/password being one important other ;)

- Kirti  


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Kirti,

You are always helpful. Just to add further...

It is more easier to use export.par file where you can put query clause very

easily ie without back slashes like

query= where invdate between '29-DEC-97' and '03-JAN-99'

HTH,

Regards
Rafiq

Note: Bob, this is for 8i and up

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Here is how:

exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and sal\1600\

When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT statement similar to
this:
SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600;

(From Utilities Guide)


- Kirti

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  3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the
  rows you need from each table in Production and import those
  into Development database. However, it will depend on how
  easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option
  (available with Oracle 8i).


Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
method of exporting (using exp)
  I'm familiar with is with

Tables=

thanks
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Thanks...


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Rafiq,
  Thanks.
  Absolutely, using par file has many such advantages (hiding
username/password being one important other ;)

- Kirti


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Kirti,

You are always helpful. Just to add further...

It is more easier to use export.par file where you can put query clause very

easily ie without back slashes like

query= where invdate between '29-DEC-97' and '03-JAN-99'

HTH,

Regards
Rafiq

Note: Bob, this is for 8i and up

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Here is how:

exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and sal\1600\

When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT statement similar to
this:
SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600;

(From Utilities Guide)


- Kirti

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


   3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the
   rows you need from each table in Production and import those
   into Development database. However, it will depend on how
   easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY option
   (available with Oracle 8i).


Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only individualized
method of exporting (using exp)
   I'm familiar with is with

Tables=

thanks
bob
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RE: Way of extracting record

2002-10-01 Thread Bob Metelsky

I see this now at the docs...


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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:14 PM
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 Subject: RE: Way of extracting record
 
 
 Rafiq,
  Thanks. 
  Absolutely, using par file has many such advantages (hiding 
 username/password being one important other ;)
 
 - Kirti  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:03 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Kirti,
 
 You are always helpful. Just to add further...
 
 It is more easier to use export.par file where you can put 
 query clause very
 
 easily ie without back slashes like
 
 query= where invdate between '29-DEC-97' and '03-JAN-99'
 
 HTH,
 
 Regards
 Rafiq
 
 Note: Bob, this is for 8i and up
 
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 11:39:11 -0800
 
 Here is how:
 
 exp scott/tiger tables=emp query=\where job=\'SALESMAN\' and 
 sal\1600\
 
 When executing this command, Export builds a SQL SELECT 
 statement similar to
 this:
 SELECT * FROM EMP where job='SALESMAN' and sal 1600;
 
 (From Utilities Guide)
 
 
 - Kirti
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:59 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
   3. You can use export with QUERY option to export just the
   rows you need from each table in Production and import 
 those   into Development database. However, it will depend 
 on how   easy it is to get to the required data by the QUERY 
 option   (available with Oracle 8i).
 
 
 Can you elaborate how the querry option is done? The only 
 individualized method of exporting (using exp)
   I'm familiar with is with
 
 Tables=
 
 thanks
 bob
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Generic Connectivity using ODBC MyODBC to connect to MySQL database

2002-10-01 Thread Tim Bunce

I'd appreciate it if anyone who has been down this road before can
summarize what they've learnt (DSN option values, MySQL config options etc).

We're using Solaris 8, Oracle 8.1.7, MyODBC 3.51 and have got as far as
getting a basic connection working so we can do simple selects.
Before I dive into more detailed investigations I thought I'd ask for
any words of experience here.

I'll happily summarise to the list if people send info to me directly.

Thanks.

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RE: TSPITR Question

2002-10-01 Thread Babette Turner-Underwood

Also only available on Enterprise Edition.
- Babette

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Brian - Since nobody seems to have responded to your question, yes, there
are plenty of opportunities for gotchas with TSPITR. To recover deleted
data, you may want to take a look at LogMiner. Less risk. Normally, to
recover deleted data, you will be performing the TSPITR on a test (or
recovery) database so you avoid losing the data changes that were made to
your production system after the deletion. Otherwise, you are performing a
full database point in time recovery. The concept behind TSPITR is to
perform recovery on a small subset of your database somewhere separate from
your production database, then once you've recovered the data you need,
export and import it back to the production system.
Without more details on your situation and your experience level, about
the most help I can be is to say take a full backup first.




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List -



I have the opportunity to learn first-hand about TSPITR today.  I need to
recover a good bit of data that was recently deleted, and do not have a
recent enough export to work from.



My question is this - I'm reading the documentation now, and one of the big,
bold Notes is that you should *NOT* try TSPITR for the first time on a
production database, or if you have a time constraint.  From looking at the
instructions, I believe that I understand what to do, and while I would love
to test this on another instance, I may not be able to.



So I ask you - do you know of any gotchas that I need to be aware of??



Thanks In Advance,


Brian



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Re: Oracle 8.1.6.2/HP-UX 11i/Reorg IOT

2002-10-01 Thread Tim Gorman

alter table  move storage (pctincrease 0) should do the trick.  For
speed, you might want to add parallel and nologging, perhaps.  If you're
feeling frisky, you can add the online keyword as well...

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Hi Gang!

Is there any trick, or any gotchas, for re-orging IOT-style tables?
I have one that's growing, and the initial builder put PCTINCREASE
at 100 and I cannot change it with an ALTER TABLE.

Any suggestions?  Docos?  Magic potions?

Thanks,
Mike

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RE: 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade

2002-10-01 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Rachna - Decide carefully on which 8.1.7 version to upgrade to. Which
platform are you on? That may help someone give you advice specific to your
platform.


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Gurus!

Any docs / URLs / do's don'ts / tips for 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 upgrade?
I have gone throught the metalink docs and Oracle Documentation.

Thanks,

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Dark side of the force

2002-10-01 Thread paquette stephane

Hi all,

I'll be seeing the dark side of the force as I'll be
the DBA on a DB2 UDB project.

Is there a list like this one for DB2 ?
Any links to DB2 stuff ?

I'd be interested in documents showing the
differences/similarities between Oracle and DB2 UDB.

Let's see our bargaining power with our Oracle rep
once DB2 is in our Oracle shop (over 100 instances)




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how to find out the patch applied on different env.

2002-10-01 Thread sesuraj m

Dear all,
  I have a situation where I need to find out the patches applied on 
different Oracle Application 11i (11.5.5) env. We have two environment PROD 
and TEST. It seems that there are some patches applied to  TEST in the past 
few months. I would like to know what patches are applied on TEST env:
Database stack
Application stack $APPL_TOP
Technology stack (Forms, reports, Jinitiator).

There is neither manual logging system where I can find the patch details 
nor locating  the files applpatch.txt or applptch.txt on the server.

Is there any other way I can easily find out the difference between those 
two instances in respect to patches?

Thanks in advance.
Michael Sesuraj
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Performance monitoring

2002-10-01 Thread Jorma . Vuorio

Ave !

I like to hear Your opinion about the most importat
issues, what should be monitored from the database (8.1.7, SUN) during
perfomance testing. The purpose in this case, is limit the
monitoring to concern only about 10 most important ones.

I have difficulties to make my mind to pick up the right ones, so
if You had to have made similar kind of decisions or have opinions,
please let me know.

TIA
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Re: 7.3.2 -7.3.4.4

2002-10-01 Thread Mikhail Ivanov

1 October 2002 19:28, you wrote:
 Hi  Friends,


 I had one of the oracle production database with 7.3.2 on AIX, I want to go
 7.3.4 base first and apply patchset 7.3.4.4. Could any body have document
 that takes me step by step process!! The documentation is there in CDs, But
 not step by step process!!

1. su - oracle
2. Shutdown all instances using  this $ORACLE_HOME.
3. You need 7.3.4 distributive and run orainst/orainst from their stage area 
(or direct from CD). Select Install or Upgarade action.  You must have 
7.3.4 after that.
4. Then go to 7.3.4.4 patch software stage area and make described patch  
procedure (see README* ).
5.Startup all instances using  this $ORACLE_HOME.

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