rh9 ALREADY?

2003-03-24 Thread Joseph S Testa
This is scary:

We appreciate your support of Red Hat Network and wanted to alert you
to a special service that we are extending to paying Red Hat Network
customers such as yourself.  For the past couple months we've gathered
feedback and listened to our customers.  We've heard that one of the
things you want most is early access to Red Hat Linux ISOs.

Well, we've responded.  Starting March 31st at 9am Eastern, you can
start downloading Red Hat Linux 9 ISOs -- a week before they will be
generally available in retail stores or via Red Hat FTP. 


8.1 is not even out, go figure.

joe



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Re: SQL*LOADER question

2003-03-19 Thread Joseph S Testa
Rick, am i missing something in the picture here??, why not use 
sqlloader(you'll need it on your local PC) and send it across sql*net?

joe


 Hi All,
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   I have two (2) Windows 2000 (w2k) machines, one running Oracle 8i 
at a
   remote site (WAN connection) and another on my desk running the 
Oracle
   client software(no database). Can I, and if so how, use sqlldr on 
my  
   desktop PC to load data into the remote database. The data file to 
be 
   loaded and the control file are on my desktop. I do not want to 
use   
   netmeeting or PC anywhere type programs which I know I can 
use.   
  
Thanks  
   
  
Rick
   
   
  
   
  
 
 
 
 
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RMAN framework scripts, etc

2003-03-18 Thread Joseph S Testa
A bunch of you asked for it, its not quite done but the majority of the
stuff should work just fine, they were originally written for 8i
database but latest development has been on 9.2.0.3, although I've tried
to NOT use any 9i specific stuff in them.

yes they are free and you can use to your hearts content just please
give credit where credit is due(like on the license agreement).

just like what you paid for it, is how much its worth.  You get what you
 pay for, there is no guarantee whatsoever, if you blow up your database
during a restore test, I'm not responsible.

That being said:  the .zip file(its got a password on it, which I'll
tell you in a minute), is located(there is zip available for most if not
all unix platforms as well as windoze).  If you don't have access to zip
on either platform, send an email to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and when i have time i'll send you a non-key version(once this is ready
for prime-time, the production version will not have a key).

http://www.oracle-dba.com/rman_beta

its the only file in that directory.  These scripts were all written for
unix(mostly aix and linux) but should be portably to any *nix.  

They have NOT been tested to run in windows via mkstoolkit or cygwin. 
If someone wants to take that task on, let me know.

This will be the only time the key for the file will be sent in an
email, after since the code is open and in the free domain(but I need
some control over it while still in development mode),

the key is:  d42x21

I hope to have a new build every 2 weeks or so and the key can always be
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You'll see that there is some menu framework started and its included
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Any questions feel free to email me here 
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Re: AW: Backup Strategy

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2003-03-14 Thread Joseph S Testa
They have been removed due to my rman framework scripts taking the disk
space.

Sorry.

Joe



I have found Joe Testa's site has a good set of RMAN scripts (I think
they came from Jack van Zanen off this list), quite simple but they
give the syntax for most of the commands you will want
The link was http://www.oracle-dba.com but that is no longer working

Where have you put them Joe??

John





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RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread Joseph S Testa
Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.

scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, the 
backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).

scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the controlfile 
gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump of 
the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS and 
BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.

so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup records 
in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back into 
the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.

if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.

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RE: RMAN resync of catalog to controlfile

2003-03-05 Thread Joseph S Testa
the catalog has all of the current backup info, so if i lose the 
repository(before taking a backup after rebuilding the controlfile), 
I'm SOL.  I logged a tar and oracle's response is, no way to push 
catalog info back into the controlfile.

joe


 Joe - I'm confused. If you rebuild the controlfile, what good is the 
backup
 information stored in the catalog? Other than maybe deciding to 
revert to a
 time before the rebuild, and you're going to need the catalog for that
 anyway.
 
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 Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.
 
 scenario 1:  repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using 
 controlfile only.  upon later successful connection to repository, 
the 
 backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).
 
 scenario 2:  I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman 
 repository.  so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and 
 connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the 
controlfile 
 gets updated with info from repository, no such luck.  I did a dump 
of 
 the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name 
 controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS 
and 
 BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.
 
 so my question is this:  is the resync only a one way push, i 
 understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup 
records 
 in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is 
 there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back 
into 
 the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.
 
 if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make 
 them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.
 
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Re: RedHat 8.0

2003-03-04 Thread Joseph S Testa
I run that config pretty successfully but I dont believe in java(its a 
religious thing, bwahahaha) and really only use that config for 
backup/recovery RMAN testing.

joe


 Anyone messing with RedHat 8.0 and Oracle 9.2..?
 
 I've got 9.2.0.2.0 database running on  8.0, most of the Java 
utilities
 don't work. (not that that is new)
 
 Oracle OMS crashes when discovering or refreshing nodes. (segmentation
 faults)
 
 I am wondering if it is JRE version related.
 
 I know Oracle is not supporting this version at all right now but if 
any one
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Re: Basic RMAN question

2003-02-26 Thread Joseph S Testa
Ceri, I know the problem,  on RH, do a which rman, you're probably 
hitting the binary that does Reverse MANpage.

do a $ORACLE_HOME/bin/rman instead and all should be well.

joe


 Hi All,
 
 I am starting to play with rman in a test environment, however I seem
 to be hitting a really basic problem starting rman.
 
 I have oracle 9.2.0.1.0 installed on Redhat AS 2.1
 
 When i issue the command:
  rman target='backup_admin/backup as [EMAIL PROTECTED]' nocatalog 
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 So i tested the connect string i had used as shown below:
 
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 Copyright (c) 1982, 2002, Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
  
 SQL connect backup_admin/backup as sysdba
 Connected.
 
 So I thought id start simple:
 rman nocatalog
 rman: can't open nocatalog
 rman
 this just hangs
 
 So what have i missed?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???

2003-02-18 Thread Joseph S Testa
evidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting.

joe


 It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
 subsidiary of TUSC.  TUSC in turn has an incestuous
 relationship with Oracle.  All very cozy.
 
 No real complaint about the arrangements.  Someone has
 to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
 to be a viable organization and in this economic
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 Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle? 
 Probably.  Will it be able to survive without Oracle? 
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  keeps doing things that the users want, then
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RE: [new info] Redhat Advanced Server Dev Edition - RAC

2003-02-11 Thread Joseph S Testa
I'm with Mike on this one, except I was just told earlier this morning
that the current client I'm at wants to move the 11i apps to RAC.  DO
they need it, nope, do they want it, yep(and have basically already cut
the check for the cost of RAC(since its on sale till end of month) :)

So the experiment that I'll be starting next week will probably become a
reality in the next 60 days. :)

joe


 I don't know anyone who needs it but Oracle is behind it and that
means that
 sooner or later they'll start to shift licenses. I'd be foolish to ignore
 the chance to experiment with RAC at home for £150 (I had a lot of the kit
 already) rather than pay Oracle £1158 for a 3 day RAC course (plus the
loss
 of 3 days income).
 Add on to that the amount I've learned about the linux kernel and the fact
 that frankly a firewire disk is just generally useful to have around
 (backups/temporary storage for video or music) and I think I'd be a mug to
 do otherwise.
 
 So no, I don't work for a company that needs this but in the near future I
 may.
 
 Cheers,
 Mike
 
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 This is all cool technology, and fun stuff to play with.
 
 It all begs the questions, 
 
 How many of us work for a business that actually need this?
 
 Are they willing to pay $400/user $20k/CPU above the cost
 of Oracle 9i EE to use it?
 
 Are they willing to pay the extra overhead required to maintain it?
 
 I'm not sure the ROI is there for many of us.  Though downtime
 at our business is somewhat expensive, I think that a failover
 system or even standby database will provide adequate coverage
 for us, which is indeed a hot topic here right now, after our Dell
 SAN put us out of business for 36 hours.  
 
 RAC wouldn't have helped much there.  Niether would a cluster
 for that matter.  Standby DB would have been perfect.
 
 This whole push of RAC by Oracle reminds me very much of the
 mlife phone campaign by ATT.  Do you really need to take pictures
 with your phone?  And what is the point of sending text messages
 to someone elses phone when you could just call them?
 
 ATT needs you to buy this stuff, because they have it for sale.
 
 I see RAC in  a similar light.  Do you need RAC?  Oracle needs
 you to 'need' it, because they need some reason for you to
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RE: [new info] Redhat Advanced Server Dev Edition - RAC

2003-02-10 Thread Joseph S Testa
Well u still probably can't(for production purposes) but for
testing(which is what i want to do), its possible.

I'm downloading right now, 4 600M+ iso images.

hopefully next week will start messing with it and let you all know how
it works out.

Joe


 This is great! So how can we get a RAC configuration running for less 1000
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 Redhat has made a special developer's edition for their Advanced Server
 which
 only costs $60!  So we don't have to shell out $699 for a copy of RHAS 2.1
 to play with RAC.
 
 http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/
 
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Re: Recall: Oracle 9.2.0.2 performance problem

2003-01-20 Thread Joseph S Testa
Mario, no can do, its already been deleted.

joe


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quest shareplex

2003-01-17 Thread Joseph S Testa
I'm working with a couple of IBM gals(don't you all get offended) who 
are asking about shareplex, i've not used it and have no idea whether 
its good or not(or for that matter what its purpose is).


Anyone enlighten me.

thanks, joe


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Re: Oracle Silent Installs and Response files...

2003-01-17 Thread Joseph S Testa
I'd have to agree w/Jared, its more like vaporware ;)

joe


 I've heard rumors of people getting it to work.
 
 Some have claimed they have.
 
 When asked to share their response files, I received nothing.
 
 I once spent several hours attempting to setup a working
 response file.  No joy.
 
 It's in the same class as bigfoot: several sightings, but the
 only photos are faked.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Joseph S Testa
Gene, i consider it a good redundancy method for recovery.

put the repository on a 24x7 machine, that way if you lose all of the 
controlfiles you can still easily restore/recover.

my 2 cents worth.

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 Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on using RMAN.  If the 
repository is to go away then why bother learning the intricacies of 
it.  Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going away?  It 
appears much simpler to setup w/out the repository.  Besides reporting 
advantages, what are the real benefits to using a repository?
 
 Thanks,
 Gene
 PS. Now reading Robert's book. 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/03 05:19PM 
 its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the backed up 
 controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out of the rman 
backup 
 piece(i've got a script that will do it automagically based on the 
 filename pieces you pass it).
 
 then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then you can do 
normal 
 recovery procedure.
 
 joe
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files
 are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file?
 
 This doesn't sound very reasonable.
 
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  That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University 
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it may 
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RE: RE : RMAN Repository

2003-01-09 Thread Joseph S Testa
Paula, i like it and the respository, cause its just my anal-
retentiveness coming out about having 2 places to easily be able to 
recover(the repository and control file).

joe


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 I find it useful for organizing and keeping track of my backups so 
that
 during recovery it is as simple as running pre-scripted queries to 
see what
 I have available - geez am I the only one who likes RMAN and doesn't 
think
 it makes things that difficult - really?  Robert Freeman - what say 
you?
 
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 Gene - Which Oracle version(s)? How many instances will you be 
backing up?
 
 
 
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 Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on using RMAN.  If the
 repository is to go away then why bother learning the intricacies of 
it.
 Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going away?  It appears 
much
 simpler to setup w/out the repository.  Besides reporting advantages, 
what
 are the real benefits to using a repository?
  
 Thanks,
 Gene
 PS. Now reading Robert's book. 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/03 05:19PM 
 its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the backed up 
 controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out of the rman 
backup 
 piece(i've got a script that will do it automagically based on the 
 filename pieces you pass it).
 
 then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then you can do 
normal 
 recovery procedure.
 
 joe
 
 
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 are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file?
 
 This doesn't sound very reasonable.
 
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Re: Oracle 8 DBA with SAP Tax Tools experience needed- New York

2003-01-08 Thread Joseph S Testa
No aliens foreign or outer space kind.

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RE: Re: Full table scan error

2003-01-03 Thread Joseph S Testa
Yea same here, column names, table names all on separate lines :)

joe


 Personally, I always format queries before working
 with
 them, otherwise it is too difficult to determine
 what is 
 being done in the query.
 
 Jared
 
 
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Re: STANDBY DATABASE QUESTION?

2002-04-19 Thread Joseph S Testa

1.  Read the oracle docs on either 8i standby database, 9i data guard, 
log transport services and log apply services.

joe


Bunyamin K. Karadeniz wrote:

  
 
 Dear Gurus ,
 
 I want to ask something ..
 
 I want to apply a standby server ,What I wonder  is , if I set it up 
 automatic , is the archive log files automatically copied to standby 
 server , or do I move it manually . ???
 
  
 
 And my second question is on my Win2000 Adv. Server C:\ drive , 
 PAGEFILE.SYS file is nearly 2 GB , AND does not increase , Why is it so 
 big ? I know that it is because of SWAP . But I am sure that there must 
 not be swap since I have 8 GB ram and only 40 users use database for now. .
 
 .
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: STANDBY DATABASE QUESTION?

2002-04-19 Thread Joseph S Testa

Vikas, you need to read the docs also, you can have the logs 
automatically shipped and applied to the standby database, it all 
depends on how you set it up.

the docs are a wonderful thing.

joe


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 Dear Gurus ,
 
 I want to ask something ..
 
 I want to apply a standby server ,What I wonder  is , if I set it up
 automatic , is the archive log files automatically copied to standby
 server , or do I move it manually . ???
 [Vikas Khanna] You have do transfer them manually to the standy by
 server. OR you can write automated scripts to do the job for you. 
 
  
 
 And my second question is on my Win2000 Adv. Server C:\ drive ,
 PAGEFILE.SYS file is nearly 2 GB , AND does not increase , Why is it
 so big ? I know that it is because of SWAP . But I am sure that
 there must not be swap since I have 8 GB ram and only 40 users use
 database for now. .
 [Vikas Khanna]   Its the max limit for the size of the file which
 this OS support. Even if you might have 8 GB RAM what depends is
 your SGA Size.
 
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Re: hi i'm back amongst the living

2002-04-19 Thread Joseph S Testa

Yes next year back to orlando.

joe


Ron Rogers wrote:

 Come On Walt...
  I thought you installed Windozz first to allow the Oracle to
 install without a hitch and then upgraded your pc to Linux. Nt first,
 SP4,SP5,SP6 then Oracle 8.0, migrate to 8.1.6,  upgrade to 8.1.7, patch
 up to 8.1.7.3, and if your lucky migrate to 9.0.1. When all is said and
 done and the database is working flawless you install the Linux release
 you desire. This way you eliminate the glibc and JDK patch for oracle's
 GUI installers.
 
  Is it correct that next year the IOUG conference will be in Orlando
 again???  I can afford it again..
 Ron
 ROR mª¿ªm
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/19/02 12:33AM 

 Joe,
 
 Glad you had a good time. Sorry I didn't make it, my company pulled
 funding
 at the last minute.
 
 As far as Oracle and Linux is concerned, I have a lot of experience.
 You
 have to install Linux first. That makes everything else a lot easier.
 
 --Walt Weaver
   Bozeman, Montana
 
 -Original Message-
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Sent: 4/18/2002 6:38 PM
 
 Lots of good stuff at IOUG conference this year, the food sucked,
 blah.
 
 
 Technical sessions were good(the few i went to), met some people been 
 talking to for years on this forum.  Party was as sea world, it was ok.
 
   We thought maybe Shamu was going to eat Rich N, but that didnt
 happen.
 
 For those of you who didnt make it :(,  maybe next year in Orlando, FL
 
 at the Swan/Dolphin hotel, april 27-may 1st.
 
 Lots of first time presenters and for those of you who know Marlene 
 Theriault, she did her last IOUG presentation this time around, she's 
 officially retiring from the Oracle world.
 
 She's doing the european one and then she's quitting, no more books
 either.
 
 We'll miss her dearly.
 
 So for those of you who've contemplated presenting before a conference,
 
 call for papers should be in jul/aug at latest for Orlando.
 
 I think i'm done with logminer, milked it for too many years, next year
 
 i'm toying around with a couple of ideas:
 
 1.  Recovery Concepts: Let's blow up a database and do live recovery 
 during the presentation
 
 2.  Linux:  Can I really do a no-brainer install of linux and oracle?,
 
 Here are the steps.
 
 Oh well, off to dinner and chillin for one more day.
 
 
 For those who didn't make it, we missed you.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: STANDBY DATABASE QUESTION?

2002-04-19 Thread Joseph S Testa

Arslan, not exactly managed mode applies the logs, you need to setup the 
primary init.ora to have the shipped from primary site to standby site.

joe

Arslan Bahar wrote:

 yes , if you put in maneged mode  , archived logs are copied and 
 appled   to standby site from master site.
 
 - Original Message -
 
 *From:* Bunyamin K. Karadeniz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 *To:* Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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 *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2002 12:03 PM
 
 *Subject:* STANDBY DATABASE QUESTION?
 
 
  
 
 Dear Gurus ,
 
 I want to ask something ..
 
 I want to apply a standby server ,What I wonder  is , if I set it up
 automatic , is the archive log files automatically copied to standby
 server , or do I move it manually . ???
 
  
 
 And my second question is on my Win2000 Adv. Server C:\ drive ,
 PAGEFILE.SYS file is nearly 2 GB , AND does not increase , Why is it
 so big ? I know that it is because of SWAP . But I am sure that
 there must not be swap since I have 8 GB ram and only 40 users use
 database for now. .
 
 .
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: Oracle 9i Application Server

2002-04-18 Thread Joseph S Testa

go to technet.oracle.com and look for documentation, its time for you to 
start reading :)

joe


Gagandeep Singh wrote:

 Greetings Gurus 
 
 Im new to Oracle. Could you please tell me what is the difference 
 between Oracle 9i and Oracle Application Server ?
 
 
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hi i'm back amongst the living

2002-04-18 Thread Joseph S Testa

Lots of good stuff at IOUG conference this year, the food sucked, blah.


Technical sessions were good(the few i went to), met some people been 
talking to for years on this forum.  Party was as sea world, it was ok. 
  We thought maybe Shamu was going to eat Rich N, but that didnt happen.

For those of you who didnt make it :(,  maybe next year in Orlando, FL 
at the Swan/Dolphin hotel, april 27-may 1st.

Lots of first time presenters and for those of you who know Marlene 
Theriault, she did her last IOUG presentation this time around, she's 
officially retiring from the Oracle world.

She's doing the european one and then she's quitting, no more books either.

We'll miss her dearly.

So for those of you who've contemplated presenting before a conference, 
call for papers should be in jul/aug at latest for Orlando.

I think i'm done with logminer, milked it for too many years, next year 
i'm toying around with a couple of ideas:

1.  Recovery Concepts: Let's blow up a database and do live recovery 
during the presentation

2.  Linux:  Can I really do a no-brainer install of linux and oracle?, 
Here are the steps.

Oh well, off to dinner and chillin for one more day.


For those who didn't make it, we missed you.

Joe




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technet download problem

2002-04-03 Thread Joseph S Testa

is anyone else able to download anythning from technet, all i get is 
unable to find server errors.

i dont think its a firewall issue as we dont block any ports.

thanks, joe

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Re: Installing Oracle 9.0.1 on Red Hat Linux 7.2

2002-04-01 Thread Joseph S Testa

first time you get the error,

open a new window go to $ORACLE_HOME/bin
look for genclntsh
vi the file, looking for -z defs, remove that part, the -z defs
./genclntsh

then hit retry, all should be good.

joe


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have successfully installed Oracle 9.0.1 on Red Hat 7.2, please
 let me know what steps you had to take to make it work.
 
 I've installed the compatibility libs and glibc stub patch for Oracle 8i, 
 and
 have successfully installed 8.1.7.
 
 The 9i install consistently fails on the ins_plsql.mk  makefile.
 
 I'll check on MetaLink some more.
 
 And yes, I know 7.2 is not yet certified, but it appears from the forums
 on MetaLink that others have done this.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jared
 


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Re: Fav. Urban Legend...

2002-03-18 Thread Joseph S Testa

init.ora parm:  _MAKE_SQL_RUN_FASTER=

valid values:

8.0 = true/false
8.1 = x where x is a number between 1 and 100
9.0 = x or unlimited -- this gives you the ultimate speed in queries

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Re: Now: IOUG : Was: PocketDBA

2002-03-07 Thread Joseph S Testa

But they're laptops with working batteries :)

joe


Deshpande, Kirti wrote:

How about a seat near the power outlets ?? Then, it will be a fun experiment
for Joe  Susan ;) 

I will be doing my first ever presentation at IOUG-A.. Just a Quick Tips
(Q31) - Wait Events in a Nutshell.. (bring your lunch with you, if they
allow it :) All Quick Tips Sessions are during lunch period... 

- Kirti 

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and this one doesn't really conflict with anything I want to see.

gotta get there early to get a seat in the front row so I can heckle
better :)


--- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yeppers i'll be there and (he crosses his fingers) if all goes well
in 
our testing(Susan and I) for the data guard presentation, we hope to
do 
a switchover and possibly a switch back in the demo part.

We'll have 2 laptops each running linux and 9i connected by a hub.

This should be a fun experiment if nothing else. :)

joe




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Re: URGENT Help on tracking unauthorized login to Oracle Database

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

Administrators guide

chapter on auditing.

joe

Mandal, Ashoke wrote:

Greetings,

We have a database with very sensitive data. Our management wants me to find out the 
way to secure this data from unauthorized login and track these users who tried to 
login to this database.

Is there any way we can track the unauthorized users, who try to login to an oracle 
database with invalid userid or password but with valid connect string. 

If there is no options under oracle then is there any 3rd party software for this 
purpose.

Any help is appreciated

Thanks,
Ashoke



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Call for Presenters(July/Oct 2001)

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

As a past President of Ohio Oracle Users Group, I still volunteer with 
our local user group and my current task if to ask you Oracle experts 
about presenting at our group.

We are looking for presenters for out July 15th meeting.

If you're interested in coming to Columbus OH for present, kindly let us 
know what your topic would be and the board will meet to choose and 
notify the people chosen.


We are also looking for presenters for our Oct Meeting, if you're 
interested in that we'd like to see an abstract(50 words maximum).

Please send all info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Joe



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Re: Where does a DBA go from here?

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

Definitely #6.  I've learned more from conferences that anywhere else. 
 If nothing else you get to drink with the people from the list :), i'
ll be at IOUG.

joe


Jesse, Rich wrote:

OK, from the responses, here's The Plan:

1) Get beer.  I prefer Guinness or Goose Island.  Done.

2) Get Oracle Perf Tuning 101.  Done.

3) Get more beer.

4) Beat up on some test DBs, and work on real live DBs to engrain that
class material into the surviving brain cells (see Step 1).  Sorta done with
this one, but I need more.  The 22 DBs here at work and 1 at home ought to
help!

5) Get more beer.

6) Go to Oracle conferences.  I need to go

7) Get more beer.

8) Hit the web, preferrably with beer in non-mouse hand.  (Wisconsin
twin-can beer hat optional)

9) Go to Internals class and actually understand and learn from it.
Yay!

10)Get lots more beer.

11)Actually do some work here.


Sounds good folks.  I think I'm on the right track (sans beer at work, of
course), with my Oracle course work completed over a year ago, and some DBA
experiences under my belt.  Time to plunk away at more DBs!

Thanks!   :)

Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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Rich,

The best Oracle training I've ever had by far is playing around with a
small test DB on a laptop or PC.  Stress it, hurt it, recover it, tune it,
etc., etc.  When done in conjunction with one of the fine books mentioned by
others on this list - even better.

I've only had one official Oracle training course - in the spring of 1989.
It was 4-1/2 days of RDBMS v5, SQL*Forms and RPT/RPF.  Since then I've
attended some of the mini courses at IOUG, ODTUG, Open World, etc. - nice
little hits of the latest technologies.  I studied for my Oracle8 OCP
exams by working through Jason Couchman's book and beating up an 8.0.5 DB on
my PC - learned a hell of a lot.

My on-going study plan for Oracle skills boils down to Beating, Browsing
and Books.
 - Beat up a test database
 - Browse fine Web sites like Steve Adams' IXORA (and beat up the DB)
 - Buy and read good books (and beat up the DB)

I think I've learned about as much as if I'd sat in a bunch of classes - and
saved a pile of money.   ;-)

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
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OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
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So, there I am.  I've taken the main Oracle courses -- Intro to SQL, DBA
(Oracle 7!), Backup  Recovery, Network Admin, and Perf Tuning.  Now where
do I go for more Oracle training?

This is sparked by a recent perceived lag in one of our new databases.
We've tracked it down to a possible hot block or two, but I never used X$BH
or V$LATCH_CHILDREN in any of my Oracle classes.  And I *know* I'm far from
being ready for an Internals class.  So how do I get from here to there?

education.oracle.com doesn't seem to have a whole lot other than Internals.
Or is that where I'm at now?

Confused and no beer.

Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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Re: cost based optimizer

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

explanation:  what i've found is cost has absolutely no bearing on 
anything, a relatively useless number.

joe


Baylis, John wrote:

 I have a table of 500,000 records that is analyzed and contains 
 several indexes that are analyzed.

 Can someone explain to me why the cost without a hint is much lower 
 than the cost with a hint?

 Using a hint is 10 times faster than without a hint even though the 
 cost is much higher.

 Since this is a third party app, I cannot add hints. What aoptions do 
 I have?


 select  /*+ Index(ICMSSHDR XSKSHDRS181M1) Use this index 
 XSKSHDRS181M1 */
 PKTS_ICMSSHDR from ICMSSHDR
 where (FK_IX_ICMSSHDR_DELV='x' and (SHDR_DELV_WHSE_CODE'86'));

 Execution Plan
 --
0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=213529 Card=228346 
 Bytes=12102338)
10   TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'ICMSSHDR' (Cost=213529 
 Card=228346 Bytes=12102338)
21 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'XSKSHDRS181M1' (NON-UNIQUE) 
 (Cost=2346 Card=228346)


 select  PKTS_ICMSSHDR from ICMSSHDR
 where (FK_IX_ICMSSHDR_DELV='x' and (SHDR_DELV_WHSE_CODE'86'));


 Execution Plan
 --
0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=3526 Card=228346 
 Bytes=12102338)
10   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'ICMSSHDR' (Cost=3526 Card=228346 
 Bytes=12102338)


 Thanks

 *John Baylis*
 D atabase Administrator
 Canadian Forest Products Ltd.
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Re: URGENT Help on tracking unauthorized login to Oracle Database

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

I stand by my original statement, look at auditing unsuccessful connections.

joe


Mandal, Ashoke wrote:

Joe,

We referred the auditing option. My understanding is that you can track the oracle 
users using database auditing feature once the users are logged into the database. 

But my requirement is to track the users who tried to login to the database but could 
not login due to wrong password.

For example, somebody may know the connect string for an oracle database and trying 
to login to the database as system user and with various combination of password. We 
like to know who are these users.

Thanks,
Ashoke

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Database


Administrators guide

chapter on auditing.

joe

Mandal, Ashoke wrote:

Greetings,

We have a database with very sensitive data. Our management wants me to find out 
the way to secure this data from unauthorized login and track these users who tried 
to login to this database.

Is there any way we can track the unauthorized users, who try to login to an oracle 
database with invalid userid or password but with valid connect string. 

If there is no options under oracle then is there any 3rd party software for this 
purpose.

Any help is appreciated

Thanks,
Ashoke





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Re: Call for Presenters(July/Oct 2001)

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

Doooh, who's a doofus and went thru a time/space continuum.

July/Oct 2002.

thanks, joe


Deshpande, Kirti wrote:

Just too darn late for July/Oct 2001  ;) 

- Kirti 

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Subject: Call for Presenters(July/Oct 2001)


As a past President of Ohio Oracle Users Group, I still volunteer with 
our local user group and my current task if to ask you Oracle experts 
about presenting at our group.

We are looking for presenters for out July 15th meeting.

If you're interested in coming to Columbus OH for present, kindly let us 
know what your topic would be and the board will meet to choose and 
notify the people chosen.


We are also looking for presenters for our Oct Meeting, if you're 
interested in that we'd like to see an abstract(50 words maximum).

Please send all info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Joe





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Re: Removing data form a table

2002-02-08 Thread Joseph S Testa

truncate wont work?

joe


Lance Prais wrote:

 I want to create a procedure the drops all the data from a table.
 
 I was trying to drop table then create this proved to be extremely
 complicated in Oracle.  I think the above route is much better.
 
 Does anyone know how to do this?
 
 Lance
 
 


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Re: Common Oracle RDBMS Misconceptions

2001-06-26 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Well i dont know about everyone else, but i knew thats how the hot
backup worked, but then again, i've not attended oracle education
classes either, just some hard core reading and have gotten all of my
backup/recovery concepts from Rama Velpuri's book.  An excellent book if
you dont have it.

joe

 On Jun 26, 2001 at 01:05:59AM, novicedba wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  I visited Jeremiah Wilton's web page http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
  I was shocked to read Hot backup mode explained
  If this is true then I may be a victim of a disease called
  'Common Oracle RDBMS Misconceptions' . Somebody help me!! (Jim carrey-MASK style)
  Please help me. If some one has few more articles like this enlighten me

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Re: Public synonyms

2001-06-24 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Audrey time to break out the oracle docs and start reading.

look in sys.dba_synoyms.

thats was your freebie ;)

joe
 Andrey Bronfin wrote:
 
 Dear all !
 I have an empty schema named AAA .
 select * from obj returns 0 rows .
 When i do select * from some_table , rows are returned  .
 I guess that some_table is a public synonym .
 How can i verify it ?
 How can i see in which schema is it defined ?
 
 Thanks a lot !
 Andrey.

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Re: 9i on redhat 7.0 --help me

2001-06-22 Thread Joseph S. Testa

you need to get rh 7.1 whic is kernel 2.4 and run theupgrade, its pretty
easy anymore, it even tells you if u dont have enough space.

email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] a telephone number(assuming you're in
the US) and we can talk if you want.

making it happen on RH since its not certified was not plug in the cd
and let it go, the redhat upgrade is easy making oracle work was not
nearly as simple.

joe
 novicedba wrote:
 
 Hi,
   install.pdf reads
 Operating System: Oracle9i is certified on SuSe 7.1, Kernel 2.4.4 and
 the operating system library GNU Lib C 2.2.
 I have Redhat 7.0 with kernel 2.2.16--22
 
 I think I need to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.4 but don't know how to,
 redhat site doesn't give great info nor did google help.
 
 Can someone help me with step by step instructions.
 I am new to Linux, but thanks to
 http://jordan.fortwayne.com/oracle/8161.html
 site was able to install both 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 without much of a
 problem.
 I am new to Linux so please so not use heavy technical terms
 please help
 
 thanks in advance
 
 
 
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Re: Need help getting started

2001-06-20 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Viraj, hahahahah, it couldnt have been said any better :), i've been
thinking that way for years as well as a few others on the list :)

joe


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 I dont want to sound rude here, and my comments are NOT directed at you personally.
 
 What is the standard of these OCP's, when a person who has not worked with oracle, 
can pass them, for the sake of discussion it does not matter which tests they were? 
It seems doing an OCP is a complete waste of time!
 
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Oracle 9i onlinux, the continuing saga

2001-06-20 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Ok most of last night putting it on laptop, be prepared for what seems
like eternal swapping if you dont have the RAM, toshiba satellite
2545xcdt laptop, amd k6, 333Mhz, 192M of ram.  It finally installed.

Now to hack genclntsh, relink the binaries and build a database. :)

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Re: OT - interviewing your superior(fun question)

2001-06-20 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Ok i'll throw one in for fun:

Are you willing to give me a 25% pay increase every year regardless of
state of the company?

Joe
Daniel Curry wrote:
 
 I am in a position to interview candidates who will ultimately be my
 boss.
 
 I am the net admin in a mixed Unix/Win/Linux environment, with Oracle
 databases, but no DBA (very simple databases).
 
 My question is for 'example' questions to ask these guys to get a full
 grasp of their management styles, political abilities, technical
 competencies, etc.  Any suggestions would be useful.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Daniel Curry
 Systems Administrator
 CGtime, Inc.
 625 Second Street

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status of oracle 9i install on red hat linux

2001-06-19 Thread Joseph S. Testa

machine:

celeron 450Mhz, 256M of ram, 512M of swap.

it installed, yea.

Here are the problems:

1.  do not even attempt to run the gui tools(dbca, netasst) with the
install, it will bomb.

2.  none of the binaries will link, just click ignore for all of the
errors, we will deal with them later.

3.  after you've got the binaries installed:
  $ORACLE_HOME/bin/genclntsh will need edited.  follow instructions
for installing 8.1.7 on rh 7.1.  I've got the link book marked and for
those of you w/o metalink let me know and i can paste the important
parts. :)

4.  run genclntsh according to the instructions.

5.  then attempt relink all, mine errored out, i did a relink of each
component, hint: if you type relink by itself it will show you the
options.

6.  run dbca to build skeleton scripts to build a database.

thats as far as i got at 3AM when i went to bed(some 3.5 hours ago),

building the database tonite,

I'll keep everyone posted.

if this all works, i'll be attempting on my 192M laptop :)

joe

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Re: 9i On Linux

2001-06-15 Thread Joseph S. Testa

because $61 doesnt do any good with a laptop that will only hold 192M :)

joe
Christopher Spence wrote:
 
 When you can buy 512Mb for $61 on the net, who cares :)
 
 Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
 both are frozen.
 
 Christopher R. Spence
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 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:00 PM
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 A minimum of 128M on the client??!! Who do they think they are?? Microsoft?
 
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 From Linux release notes:
 http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/pdf/9i_lin_relnotes.pdf
 
 The following requirements must be met to perform a typical Oracle9i
 software installation.
 
  Memory: A minimum of 512 MB of is required to install Oracle9i
 Server.
 
 A minimum of 512 MB is required to install Oracle9i
 Management and Integration.
 
 A minimum of 128 MB is required to
 install Oracle9i Client.
 
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  Can any of you just confirm that Oracle 9i requires 500M of memory on
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Re: re-create Scott's schema

2001-06-13 Thread Joseph S. Testa

in 8.1.7

$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/utlsampl.sql

joe
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 Does anyone know any SQL script to re-create Scott's schema ?
 
 Thanks for any insights and helps.
 
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yes, except that i'm one of those sick pups that reads the docs.

joe
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 -Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get
 -one more year worth of presentation out of it.
 -
 -it tracks and displays DDL :)
 -
 -
 -useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
 -
 -
 -So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
 
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

good question about the logminer version, its probably logminer 9i :)

bring the mining hat, batteries will be supplied :)

joe
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 Hey Joe,
  Will that be Logminer 102 or 103 ?
 
  Do I need to bring Miner's uniform (the hat and all) ?
 
  Cheers!
 
 - Kirti
 
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Paul, it didnt get picked up for the IOUG live 2001.

I've bored the local user group to death with logminer(as well as alot
of other people i'm sure).

I'll make sure you get you a copy of it in jul.

joe
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 Joe,
 
 I didn't get to see the advanced logminer presentation at IOUG-A.
 - is that one 201?
 - any chance of seeing it at your user group meeting in July?
 - does it exist in print anywhere?
 
 Paul
 
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 Hey Joe,
  Will that be Logminer 102 or 103 ?
 
  Do I need to bring Miner's uniform (the hat and all) ?
 
  Cheers!
 
 - Kirti
 
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Linda, yes list admin send her a prize :)

joe
Seley, Linda wrote:
 
 Oh oh, wild guess  milliseconds?
 
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 yes, except that i'm one of those sick pups that reads the docs.
 
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 Thater, William wrote:
 
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  -Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can
 get
  -one more year worth of presentation out of it.
  -
  -it tracks and displays DDL :)
  -
  -
  -useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
  -
  -
  -So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
 
  bored?;-)
 
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Re: OT - SSN( Enforced Constraints (sic) ??

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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yes according to the docs.

joe
Hillman, Alex wrote:
 
 Can it redo DDL?
 
 Alex Hillman
 
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 Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get
 one more year worth of presentation out of it.
 
 it tracks and displays DDL :)
 
 useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
 
 So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
 
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

well i'm basing my statement on the docs(which isn't much i know) but as
soon as its on a platform i can use, i'll tets it out and let everyone
know for sure :)

joe
 Nick Wagner wrote:
 
 Either way...  I tried it with 9.0.0.0.0 beta 3 and I got the normal
 DML to work just fine.  However I could not get the DDL to work.. I
 set the parameters just like the doc says, but all my DDL queries just
 seamed to go out to lunch on me...
 
 My log files were very small for the testing...  5 MB files, and I
 only did 3 DDL statements...
 
 anyone else have this problem.
 
 Nick
 
 -Original Message-
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 The question should be, Can it undo DDL?
 
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 Can it redo DDL?
 
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 Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can
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 it tracks and displays DDL :)
 
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 So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
 
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Re: rollout of DB changes to production...

2001-06-07 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Rich, i'm with you.

dropping a column can be extremely time consuming depending on number of
rows.

just go ahead and add the cols to prod, if you need to back it out, mark
them unused and then drop them during a slow time(i know you're 24x7 but
look when its the slowest, 3AM?).

joe
Richard Huntley wrote:
 
 I'm just wondering if the best way to handle a rollback of added columns is
 to alter the table to mark the column as unused and then drop the unused
 columns via ALTER TABLE t1 DROP UNUSED COLUMNS;  or would the ideal thing be
 to export the table(s) before adding the columns and then reimport, although
 that could get very sticky since I'd be dealing with the whole table and
 associated constraints instead of just the columns I'm trying to remove.  I
 basically want to have both a rollout and a rollback script for an upcoming
 rather large move to production.  Your input would be greatly appreciated.
 
 TIA,
 
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Re: Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

has log 505 made it over to the standby yet, you should start reading
the docs, if log 505 is not there yet, than that is the way its SUPPOSED
to work.

joe
 Saurabh Sharma wrote:
 
 hi all,
 
 I need ur help urgently. i've created a standby database with the
 below mentioned steps..
 
 1. copied consistent backup of datafiles folder to standby site.
 2. created standby control file and sent to target location.
 3. switch logfile current and copied to target.
 4. copied init.ora and changed parameters for standby.
 
 at the standby site.
 1. startup nomountok
 2. alter database mount standby database.  ok
 3. recover standby database
... this last recovery statement is giving lot of msgs like..log
 applied..
 then same logfile not needed for this recovery.
 can not open file..etc.
 
 I'm copying the archived log from primary to standby
 standby_archive_dest location.
 here are the actual errors..
 
 SVRMGR recover standby database;
 ORA-00279: change 708915 generated at 06/06/01 12:19:56 needed for
 thread 1
 ORA-00289: suggestion : D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001
 ORA-00280: change 708915 for thread 1 is in sequence #505
  Specify log: {RET=suggested | filename | AUTO | CANCEL}
 auto
 ORA-00308: cannot open archived log
 'D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001
 ORA-27041: unable to open file
 OSD-04002: unable to open file
 O/S-Error: (OS 2) The system cannot find the file specified.
 
 
 has anybody any idea of what's causing this problem. what i feel is
 there i may have wrongly configured the standby_archive_dest in
 init.ora at standby.
 
 any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 thanks.
 
 saurabh sharma
 

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Re: Creating and Oracle 7 DB from an Oracle 8 DB

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

why not run version 7 export against the oracle 8 database(its been more
than 4 years since i've played with a 7 database).  or am i missing
something here?

joe
 Tim Allen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Its a long and boring story but I have an Oracle 8 database and I need
 to create an Oracle 7 database from it to support one of our
 applications. The schema of the Oracle 8 db does not have any oo
 features and is, in theory, it functionally compatable with an Oracle
 7 db. But I understand that there are issues with using export from
 oracle 8 and import to oracle 7, I.e it is incompatable.
 
 Has anyone had any experience in doing this or any suggestions on ways
 of doing it?
 
  And by the way the data in tables needs to be copied from 8 to 7
 also.
 
 Cheers
 
 
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Re: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Hey, i resemble that remark, damn, i wasnt supposed to tell anyone i was
certified.

I'm going to indulge in hostess snack cakes as a punishment.

joe
Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
  Alex,
 
 The answer to your question is:  get several certifications
 and become a consultant!  grin, duck, and run like hell
 
 Ross
 
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Re: urgent regarding server manager..

2001-06-04 Thread Joseph S. Testa

1.  upgrade to unix
2.  start using sqlplus instead of server manager, its going away

joe
 Saurabh Sharma wrote:
 
 hi all,
 
 i want help regarding automation of connecting to server manager
 through script file.
 
 i want when i run script, it automatically launch svrmgr program and
 simultaneously pass the connect string so that it gives me svrmgr
 connected.
 while passing the connect string along with svrmgr80 command at c
 prompt results in msg  too many parameters..
 can anyone help getting me started.
 
 thanks in advance.
 
 saurabh

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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread Joseph S. Testa

good question, i've not tried any intermedia/context stuff.

any experts out there?

Joe
Thater, William wrote:
 
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2001,Joseph S. Testa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
 
 -i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking for something to fill
 -that possibility to no avail.
 
 dumb question would a contex... oh excuse me InterMedia index work?
 
 -
 -joe
 -Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 -
 - she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy wants to know (and I do too,
 - because I have a similar situation) is if there is a way to create an index
 - that will let you search with the like clause.
 -
 - Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't make Oracle do that
 -
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 - 
 - index is not used because you have leading % in the like predicate.
 - 
 - Alex Hillman
 - 
 - -Original Message-
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 - 
 - 
 - 
 - I've created a function index for lower(column_name).  However the query
 - does
 - a like comparison rather than equality so the index isn't used.  Is there a
 - way to create a function index for this?
 - 
 - Here's the index and query:
 - 
 - create index fx1_auth_users
 - on auth_users (lower(current_email)
 - tablespace app01_midx ;
 - 
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Re: Point in Time recovery required !!

2001-06-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Vikas, email me direct a number to call you and we can chat about
logminer and whether it can help you or not.

joe
Vikas Kawatra wrote:
 
 Our developers need the dbs to be restored to 6 am today morning - as they
 deleted some important table.
 Now we have no EXPORTS , the dbs is in archive mode - so we though it would
 be easy to restore and do a point in time recovery - only to find that our
 backup guy had configured the tapes to be overwritten - so we have no HOT
 backup now ...
 We have no cold backups -
 I'm trying to figure out if we can use the LOGMINER - to do any recovery !!
 
 Any Suggestions /help would be welcome !!
 
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Re: Point in Time recovery required !!

2001-06-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Vikas, re-reading your note, it appears you have tables that were
dropped?

logminer will not help you in that respect(at least not until 9i, when
you have undo tablespaces and query flashback).

joe
Vikas Kawatra wrote:
 
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 deleted some important table.
 Now we have no EXPORTS , the dbs is in archive mode - so we though it would
 be easy to restore and do a point in time recovery - only to find that our
 backup guy had configured the tapes to be overwritten - so we have no HOT
 backup now ...
 We have no cold backups -
 I'm trying to figure out if we can use the LOGMINER - to do any recovery !!
 
 Any Suggestions /help would be welcome !!
 
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Re: On the question of What is a Large Database Anyway ?

2001-06-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

great hope you got it all.

joe

Vikas Kawatra wrote:
 
 Thanks for the offer to help  ! I just completed log mining the data
 successfully - from the archive logs - I was able to generate the UNDO SQL
 and execute it on the dbs to bring it to a state prior to the
 updates/deletes etc on the table
 
 thanks
 
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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking for something to fill
that possibility to no avail.

joe
Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
 she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy wants to know (and I do too,
 because I have a similar situation) is if there is a way to create an index
 that will let you search with the like clause.
 
 Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't make Oracle do that
 
 From: Hillman, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: function index for like '%string%'
 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800
 
 index is not used because you have leading % in the like predicate.
 
 Alex Hillman
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 I've created a function index for lower(column_name).  However the query
 does
 a like comparison rather than equality so the index isn't used.  Is there a
 way to create a function index for this?
 
 Here's the index and query:
 
 create index fx1_auth_users
 on auth_users (lower(current_email)
 tablespace app01_midx ;
 
 select current_email from auth_users
 where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%' ;
 
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Re: ORA-00904

2001-05-26 Thread Joseph S. Testa

dealt with that one this week on aix platform.

a couple of things can cause it.

1.  an upgrade or patch and then forget to run catalog, catproc,
catrep(if ur using replication), utlirp.

2.  using a version of export that is not compatible with the
database(no one flame me for this, it was on metalink).

if you want moer into on the error, let me know, i'll go and get the doc
id from metalink so you can look it up.

joe

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 Greetings,
 
 I'm lost on the 'ORA-00904: invalid column name' error message. Can someone
 shed some light on it? It is 8i on NT box with sp6a.
 
 Regards,
 Julia Phu



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Re: ORA-00904

2001-05-26 Thread Joseph S. Testa

I dont necessarily recommend it but thats whats in most release notes
for patches sets, so I tend to follow the instructions oracle gives in
most cases :)

Joe
PHU,JULIA (HP-Sunnyvale,ex2) wrote:
 
 Hi, Joe,
 
 'an upgrade or patch and then forget to run catalog, catproc,
 catrep(if ur using replication), utlirp.'
 
 Do you recommend to run catalog, catproc, catrep, and utlirp?
 
 I looked up a doc in Metalink and couldn't resolve my problem. Perhaps I
 looked up the incorrect one. Please send me info if you will.
 
 Thank you.
 Julia
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 6:00 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 dealt with that one this week on aix platform.
 
 a couple of things can cause it.
 
 1.  an upgrade or patch and then forget to run catalog, catproc,
 catrep(if ur using replication), utlirp.
 
 2.  using a version of export that is not compatible with the
 database(no one flame me for this, it was on metalink).
 
 if you want moer into on the error, let me know, i'll go and get the doc
 id from metalink so you can look it up.
 
 joe
 
 PHU,JULIA (HP-Sunnyvale,ex2) wrote:
 
  Greetings,
 
  I'm lost on the 'ORA-00904: invalid column name' error message. Can
 someone
  shed some light on it? It is 8i on NT box with sp6a.
 
  Regards,
  Julia Phu
 
 
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Re: svrmgrl error

2001-05-21 Thread Joseph S. Testa

look at relinking the svrmgrl executable, ensure there is no 7.3
libraries in path BEFORE the 8.x libs(assuming an 8.x database).

you got metalink, search for it, i'm 90% sure its on there.

joe
Leyden, Joseph wrote:
 
 Has anyone seen this error and found what the solution was?
 Hoping for a long shot here 
 
 Joe
 
 
 $ svrmgrl
 exec(): 0509-036 Cannot load program svrmgrl because of the following
 errors:
 0509-130 Symbol resolution failed for /usr/lib/libc_r.a(aio.o)
 because:
 0509-136   Symbol kaio_rdwr (number 0) is not exported from
dependent module /unix.
 0509-136   Symbol listio (number 1) is not exported from
dependent module /unix.
 0509-136   Symbol acancel (number 2) is not exported from
dependent module /unix.
 0509-136   Symbol iosuspend (number 3) is not exported from
dependent module /unix.
 0509-136   Symbol aio_nwait (number 4) is not exported from
dependent module /unix.
 0509-192 Examine .loader section symbols with the
  'dump -Tv' command.
 oracle@totspt: /home/oracle 
 
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Re: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Joseph S. Testa

read the tuning guide and the administrators guide.

nowadays this is a valid answer now that oracle docs are online, NO ONE
HAS AN EXCUSE to not read the docs unlike back in the days when you had
to pay thousands of dollars for paper docs.

joe
 Venkat_Kalepalli wrote:
 
 Hello folks!
 
 I am working in SUN solaris 5.6 with Oracle 8i.  I want to implement
 MTS on the Oracle server.  Next we are running with Rule based
 optimizer and we want to change to costbased optimizer.
 
 I want to know what are the advantages we get on this and what are the
 steps to implement this?
 
 Any help is grateful...
 
 Rgd
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-16 Thread Joseph S. Testa

I'll be there.

Joe



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 I am attending and would like to join the meeting.

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Re: Oracle DBA

2001-04-07 Thread Joseph S. Testa

kewl, a new person to add to my  recruiter killfile :)

joe

 "Richard T. Vander Laan" wrote:
 
 Des Moines, IA firm is looking for a strong Oracle DBA candidate with
 Discoverer, Express, SQL, SQL*Plus, PL/SQL, Portal, and other skills
 experience.
 Salary is open DOE.  Excellent company with great benefits.
 Permanent position
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Re: Recovery from noarchive db corrected

2001-04-05 Thread Joseph S. Testa

assuming you're the dba, since when does the developer dictate
recoverability to a DBA about a database.

sounds like a role problem there.

joe

Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
 Our Developer prefer the archive off, I can't change that anymore :(
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 8:54 PM
 To: LazyDBA mailing list
 
 Turn archiving on.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Hi,
 
  My database is noarchive mode, what should I do to prevent
  from lossing any
  transactions ?
  Like for example incresed the REDO buffer to ... (daily buffer)?
  Will this decrese the performance ?
  any technique to share ?
 
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OT: Re: Metalink Again, tandy computers

2001-04-04 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Anyone besides me remember the old tandy computers?

my first computer:

TRS-80 Model III, 16K of ram, used to program it using assembler, i
think the package was called "edasm"?, no disk drive(too expensive),
cassette tape player, 50 baud :)

joe

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OT: RANT ABOUT OCP, Re: Small help

2001-03-29 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Lee, i'm with you 200%, 


oh and for the original addressee(and others) if you can't figure out
what the heck that simple pl/sql block is doing(or where to figure it
out), then quit diluting the OCP worthiness,  people who study just to
take the OCP and have no experience just go to further the waste of
paper that the certificate is printed on.  :)


joe

lerobe - Lee Robertson wrote:
 
 Xing,
 
 Have a look at the documentation, specifically, Application Developers
 Guide, section dealing with "Using Procedures and Packages".
 
 No disrespect intended but sometimes, certainly for questions such as this,
 you will learn a heck of a lot more by digging around in the docs, and
 reading (and working out) the answer for yourself. That is certainly my
 experience. You will also fell encouraged to delve further and learn more
 about other packages etc. Hope my pointer will help you.
 
 To the rest of you - I know it would have been quicker to write down the
 answer to Xings question, but what will he have learned about the general
 syntax ??
 
 Regards
 
 Lee
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 29 March 2001 07:05
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 Hi DBAs and SAs,
 
 Can someone tell me what is this ORACLE PL/SQL Script all about,..
 Ya... I know I have to read alot, my OCP course will start next month.
 
 BEGIN
dbms_utility.analyze_schema ( 'OWNER', 'ESTIMATE', NULL, 5 ) ;
 END ;
 /
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: Exp Imp Overwirte posiible or not?

2001-03-27 Thread Joseph S. Testa

truncate is not an option?

Joe
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  I want to import data from a user dump file but when i import data, i want
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 existing rows. Requirement of application is such  that we need to
 overwrite existing data  without  dropping objects and its dependent
 objects. Is it possible with exp , imp utilities or  i have to delete data
 first and then import  using imp utility.
 Is there any other possibility...
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Re: changing db_block_size

2001-03-27 Thread Joseph S. Testa

last i checked that was your only choice, anyone like to flame me for
that statement :)

joe
Roy Ferguson wrote:
 
 all,
 
 I would like to change the db_block_size (currently 2048) of our production
 database and would be interested in hearing from those that have done this on a
 not so small database.  This is our oracle financials/manufacturing server and
 is about 30GB in size.  Did you recreate the database using imp/exp or another
 method?
 
 Running Oracle 8.0.5 on Sun Solaris 7.
 
 thanks in advance...roy

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Re: New born DBA.....

2001-03-27 Thread Joseph S. Testa

start by reading the administrators guide and welcome to the world(Dr
DBA slaps the bottom side of the newborn) :)

joe
Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I am a new DBA, can you please tell me what are the common task list as DBA
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 regularly.
 I know backup is one of them.
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: Conversion of man (unix) into Txt file

2001-03-18 Thread Joseph S. Testa

To  get  a  plain  text  version  of  a  man page, without
   backspaces and underscores, try

 # man foo | col -b  foo.mantxt


joe


Gregory Conron wrote:
 
 On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, chandan wrote:
  Hi All,
Does anyone know  how to convert unix MAN into a text file ?


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OT: STARTING A HOLY WAR: about NT versus unix Re: Java pools and 8i --

2001-03-16 Thread Joseph S. Testa

thats cause NT sux

joe

 "Shaw, John B" wrote:
 
  I dropped mine to 1M and had export problems - support had me raise to 20M
  and export started working again (NT)
 
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  Hi,
 
  We've got an 8.1.6 DB running on HP/UX.  I created a java pool because I
  didn't know if something in the 3rd party software would use Java code.
  Well, it doesn't.  So, is there any reason to keep ANY java pool?  It's at
  30MB right now.  I was gonna drop it to 5MB to be conservative, but if I
  don't need that, why take up the RAM.
 
  TIA,
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Re: Script to know the size of each table in a schema ?

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Re: LONG: Re: Order of table_name resolution

2001-03-14 Thread Joseph S. Testa

My apologies to all by NOT denoting i ripped that entire piece out of
the 817 docs.

apps devleoper guide, chapter 2, schema maintenance.

joe
 Jacques Kilchoer wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Testa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Due to the possibility of synonyms, the
  following rules are used to resolve a name in a context that
  requires an
  object in the table namespace:
 
 etc...
 
 That was an excellent post Mr. Testa. My chapeau goes off to you.
 Also it seems that Oracle keeps track of the names it goes through
 when doing synonym resolution, as the example below shows:
 
 SQL create synonym x for y ;
 
 Synonym created.
 
 SQL create synonym y for x ;
 
 Synonym created.
 
 SQL select * from x ;
 select * from x
   *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-01775: looping chain of synonyms
 
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Re: EE on NT problem (on and off network) ???

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Leslie, this one messed with ALOT of people for a long time, my boss
over New Years even figurd it out.

check out you sqlnet.ora file, look at the(i think it was)
sqlnet_authentication.services or something like that,  he just
commented it out and poof it worked.

Rachel, since I told you about it, do you remember what it was?


joe
Leslie Lu wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I installed 815 EE on NT 4.0 on a laptop and created a
 testing database (did both while I was on network.)  I
 can connect to the database without problem, while
 remain on network.  However when I'm off the network,
 I cannot connect to the database. I got:
 
 ora 12570: TNS: packet reader failure
 ora 12571: TNS: packet writer failure
 
 It's a demo project for marketing people, and most
 probably they might not be able to connect to the
 network (in the plan or on the beach).  So I really
 need the db to run locally.
 
 Any idea,  thanks a lot.
 
 Leslie
 
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Re: [Fwd: Re: EE on NT problem (on and off network) ???]

2001-03-13 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yeppers thats the one, and yes ur correct about the listener thing. :)

Joe
Paul Drake wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 do you mean change the line in the sqlnet.ora file from
 
 SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES = (NTS)
 
 to
 
 SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES = (NONE)
 
 It still sounds like if the listener is configured with the machine's host
 name, and that host name was resolving to the IP address bound to the
 network adapter (not a loopback address, e.g. 127.0.0.1)
 when the network connection is severed, so is the sql*net connection.
 
 How about using a bequeath connection, instead?
 
 Paul
 
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 Leslie, this one messed with ALOT of people for a long time, my boss
 over New Years even figurd it out.
 
 check out you sqlnet.ora file, look at the(i think it was)
 sqlnet_authentication.services or something like that,  he just
 commented it out and poof it worked.
 
 Rachel, since I told you about it, do you remember what it was?
 
 joe
 Leslie Lu wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I installed 815 EE on NT 4.0 on a laptop and created a
  testing database (did both while I was on network.)  I
  can connect to the database without problem, while
  remain on network.  However when I'm off the network,
  I cannot connect to the database. I got:
 
  ora 12570: TNS: packet reader failure
  ora 12571: TNS: packet writer failure
 
  It's a demo project for marketing people, and most
  probably they might not be able to connect to the
  network (in the plan or on the beach).  So I really
  need the db to run locally.
 
  Any idea,  thanks a lot.
 
  Leslie
 
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Re: ScanMail Message: To Sender, (OT)

2001-03-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Where do you let corporate draw the line, before long you'll see no
email, cause you can take damn near anything out of context.

joe

"Hand, Michael T" wrote:
 
 Joe, Cohorts,
 
 Look at it from the other side.  If I worked in a Corporate legal office and
 was aware of filtering technology, I would insist it be used.  The current
 legal climate in the US where employers are sued at the drop of a hat over
 sexism, racism, ageism and any other -ism you can think of would require
 nothing less.  And I don't have to get into who really owns the e-mail do I?
 I'd be harder on the sender (sorry Dick) than on the employer who rejects on
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Re: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion

2001-03-09 Thread Joseph S. Testa

sounds like a candidate for partitioning.

joe
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 Dear All,
 
 Platform: Solaris 2.6, Oracle: 7.3.4.0
 
 We have a few tables which are growing very fast due to large no of
 insertions. But the data gets obselete after a month and we use a
 procedure to delete the obselete data from the tables.
 
 The problem is that the table does not free the space even after the 
deletion of 40% of the data.
 
 How can we re-claim the unused space which got created due to deletion?
 
 How do we ensure that future inserts are done in this unused space?
 
 [We can not try exp/imp or truncate option
 due to the huge size   high activity and
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Re: Re-claiming the space from Table after deleteion

2001-03-09 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yea in the table but not the index, since unless you put the exact same
value for the row the index leaf node will NOT be reused, hence my
statement about the partitioning.

Joe
William Beilstein wrote:
 
 Also is this really a problem. In the next month you are going to import  more rows 
which will use the deleted space anyway.
 
  "Joseph S. Testa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/01 07:17AM 
 sounds like a candidate for partitioning.
 
 joe
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  Dear All,
 
  Platform: Solaris 2.6, Oracle: 7.3.4.0
 
  We have a few tables which are growing very fast due to large no of
  insertions. But the data gets obselete after a month and we use a
  procedure to delete the obselete data from the tables.
 
  The problem is that the table does not free the space even after the 
deletion of 40% of the data.
 
  How can we re-claim the unused space which got created due to deletion?
 
  How do we ensure that future inserts are done in this unused space?
 
  [We can not try exp/imp or truncate option
  due to the huge size   high activity and
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  Kind Regards and thanks to all there,
 
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OT, i'Messing with the scanner :Re: ScanMail Message: To Sender,

2001-03-08 Thread Joseph S. Testa

sex harrass bite F*$%

etc.

lets see if that gets screened
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Re: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and

2001-03-08 Thread Joseph S. Testa

I don't know but i vote for them to be removed from the list, when i
work for a compnay that starts screening my email for me, i'll quit
thats for sure.

the place i work for, i know the admins and they dont do that kind of
garbage.

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Re: What or who is PUBLIC?

2001-03-08 Thread Joseph S. Testa

public, a role built when the create database statement is executed (its
in sql.bsq).

what else would u like to know about it?

joe
"Smith, Ron L." wrote:
 
 Can anyone point me to a paper or explanation of the Oracle role? called
 PUBLIC?  How do you manage permissions for PUBLIC?
 
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Re: Script from heaven

2001-03-07 Thread Joseph S. Testa

start by reading the docs on dba_* views.

joe


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I'm new in Oracle8i for Solaris 2.7, I'm not familiar with those data
 dictionary view, do you have any scripts to share such as to display
 redologs, tablespaces, earlier potential problems detection?
 
 Thank you so much..

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Re: Oracle Licensing

2001-03-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Oracle has been riding the concept of "we're oracle so you want to use
our database" for a long while.  I'll be one of the last to condone
sql-server(as i've recently had to work with it for a client, and i
talked up oracle for a while) but Mr Larry is losing market share, check
out any of the financial stories about ORCL.

The problem with M$ sql-server is its just not as scalable as
oracle(yet).  Think about it with the power unit concept its becoming
too damn expensive except for the high-roller fortune 250 companies.  I
need a playgound to test new options, etc, if the whole technet thing
did not exist, i'd never pay the price for the database just to
experiment.

my .02 is the whole power unit thing is a good concept but the $$ per
unit is way outta whack.  the only reason i say that is its been hard
for oracle to denote when people were using more than the licenses they
bought were being used.  I had always setup the databases with the
v$license parms setup in the database. But sometimes damagement
"required" me to "uplift" the limits.  We'll leave it at that.

joe
Tom Schruefer wrote:
 
 As luck would have it I was evaluating the prices of Oracle and then SQL
 Server today.
 
 My question at this point is, what kind of prices does Microsoft charge
 for support, I was pretending to purchase SQL Server and noticed that no
 mention is made about product support.
 
 Using the "Power Unit" method MS and Oracle come out within about $5k of
 each other, but when you get to their Enterprise editions, MS is just
 under $20k where as Oracle is way out there.  The cheaoest I could get
 Oracle, with unlimited users (which is what I need). On a 1ghz Intel,
 single processor machine with a 2 yr lic, Oracle Enterprise costs $45,600
 (thats if you want support with your DB).
 
 If it were my money $20k vs. $45k+, hummm.
 
 I'm no Friend-of-Bill, but one has to wonder how Oracle can compete with
 such a huge price difference.  Is MS doing to Oracle what it did to
 Netscape and dozens of other companies?
 
 Tom
 
 Martin Kendall - [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/5/2001 4:45 PM writes us:
 
 I'm following this thread and a worrying thought has crossed my mind:-
 
 If Oracle carries on with this pricing model,  soon we will all be looking
 for a new job..scary :-)
 
 Martin Kendall
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 02 March 2001 22:00
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Last time I danced with our sales rep, power units were per server, not per
 user...  so the power unit price would be 400*100 = 40,000 for an unlimited
 (Ha!
 at 200mhz?) number of users.  If you ask nicely, yours may agree to convert
 any
 concurrent or named user licenses you have into power unit credits.
 
 Dennis Taylor wrote:
 
  At 06:25 AM 3/2/01 -0800, you wrote:
  the mire.  At any rate, there are suppose to be two basic licensing
  schemes, and
  GOD only knows how many "allowed" permutations:
  
  1) Power Units which equates to the number of processors times the
  speed of
  the processors in Megahertz.  Oh, BTW: it matters if their Intel or Risc
  processors too.  Risc processors are more expensive.  In general this is
 the
  MOST expensive way to go.
  
 
  I went to the oracle site and did some calcs for adding users to Oracle
  Enterprise. Kept sayin g to myself, "Naw, they must mean *hundreds* of
  megahertz". Anyway, for a very behind-the-curve system (2x200mhz
  ppro's), it works out to $4000 per additional user.
 
  Or I can look at Interbase/Firebird, which is free.
 
  Today I will be assigning one of my staff the task of downloading,
  installing, and evaluating Firebird.
 
  The only way I can imagine that Oracle thinking can be going is: "Hey,
  revenues are dropping because of competition from free and less expensive
  dbms's". "No problem. Raise prices to make up the shortfall". Then I say
 to
  myself, "Naw, no-one can be that stupid". Then I check the per-user prices
  again
 
  Dennis Taylor
  
  Good we must love, and must hate ill,
  For ill is ill, and good good still.
 
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Re: Woohooo An ORA-600

2001-03-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

As i sat around and read the kernel source code(hahaha just kidding,
although some days it would be easier to do that than work with
metalink), here is what metalblank came up with:


   Note:109595.1
   ALERT: ORA-04045 and ORA-600 [4882]on
   startup after applying 8.1.6.1.x patch
Type: 
   ALERT
Status: 
   PUBLISHED

 Content Type: 
 TEXT/PLAIN
 Creation Date: 
 22-MAY-2000
 Last Revision Date: 
 31-OCT-2000
 Language: 
 USAENG



ORA-04045 and ORA-600 [4882] on startup after applying 8.1.6.1.x patch
to 8.1.6.x 
or upgrading from 8.1.5.X to 8.1.6.0.0
~
Versions affected
~ 
Oracle 8i 8.1.6.0.0,  patch 8.1.6.1.x
 
Platforms Affected 
~~ 
ALL

Description 
~~~ 
After upgrading to 8.1.6.0 or applying 8.1.6.1.x patch, ORA-600
errors may appear in the alert.log file.
 
Likelihood of Occurrence 
 
This will occur everytime a database, with Java enabled, is upgraded
from 8.1.5.X to 8.1.6.0.0 or patch 8.1.6.1.x is applied.
 
Symptoms 
 
After the upgrade, every startup or shutdown of the database may report
the following 
to the alert.log: 

ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of
SYS.AURORA$SERVER$STARTUP
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [4882], [52571764],
[67355404], [52438196], [],
[], [], []
(the arguments of the ora-600 after the 4882 may vary on your system)
 
Workaround 
~~
No current workaround known.
Please note this is a non-blocking ORA-600 error that does not affect
the
database internals, nor does it affect data integrity.

Patches
~~~
No patch available at the moment.
Solution scheduled for 8.1.6.2 patchset


 NOT SURE IF THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM FOR SURE, if you want, send me
the trace file.

Joe
Mark Leith wrote:
 
 Hi Guys  gals,
 
 Today - I got my very first ORA-600 error - Who, I tell ya guys I'm
 so excited.. lol..
 
 Now Because this is a test instance I don't really give a stuff whether I
 lose it or not, it seems to be up and running just fine, without any real
 problems. The only annoyance with having to rebuild it is having to set it
 all up again, as I don't back the damn thing up :
 
 Now I'm not even going to even try and log on to "Megablank" to look this
 up, and lowly little me couldn't get access anyway: so I thought I would
 field this one to the list to see if any of you guys have seen this version
 of the fabled error before, so here it is:
 
 Errors in file C:\Oracle\admin\SALES\udump\ORA00520.TRC:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [4882], [48415556], [97653212],
 [48293020], [], [], [], []
 
 Tue Mar 06 09:02:09 2001
 Errors in file C:\Oracle\admin\SALES\udump\ORA00520.TRC:
 ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of
 SYS.AURORA$SERVER$STARTUP
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [4882], [48415556], [97653212],
 [48293020], [], [], [], []
 
 Pretty isn't it? Any "easy" way of fixing this before I send my database to
 that big recycle bin in the sky? Actually it may be a good thing, then I
 could try and get OEM 2.1 up and running again - But that's another thread
 :)
 
 All insight appreciated..
 
 Regards
 
 Mark
 




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Re: Drop a column in a 9 million records table

2001-03-05 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Ruth to drop a column, use truncate?

Joe

Ruth Gramolini wrote:
 
 Use truncate instead of drop.  Ruth
 
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  The database is Oracle8.1.7. I used the syntax:
  alter table foo drop column bar;
 
  Why it gives run out of RBS error? Is alter table a
  DDL? How does it use RBS?
 
  TIA
 
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Re: standby database question - solved

2001-03-04 Thread Joseph S. Testa

read the documentatio on standby databases.

it in the 8.1.7 docs(which nowadays are online), there is a whole book
on standby databases.

joe
Anjan Thakuria wrote:
 
 can u please tell me how to monitor it .
 
 TIA
 
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Re: Disabling Constraints in a Schema!..??

2001-03-02 Thread Joseph S. Testa

-- the FK

select 'alter table '||table_name||' disable '||constraint_name||';'
from user_constraints 
where constraint_type = 'R';



there is check constraints, primary key, and unique, but i'll not give
you the entire answer.

joe
Arul kumar wrote:
 
 Hi DBAs,
 
 We r using Oracle 8.1.6 . db.
 I would like to disable all the constraints on the Tables available
 under one schema.
 Is there any single command to do this in 8i . Any DBMS package
 available?
 Any other suggestions for doing the same??
 
 Thank You.
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ORA-12537 question

2001-03-02 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Ok anyone seen this error.

here is the scenario:

dev box - firewall - internet - prod db server

on the prod db server, protocol.ora is enabled to screen only legit ip
addys.

connect from dev box w/sqlplus and get a 12537 error, 

solaris, 8.1.5 on both dev and prod.

PC attempted also, 8.1.5 client.

all get the same error.

thanks, joe

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Re: Revoke system privilege from user

2001-03-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

revoke dba from user.

and if you're daring
grant all privileges to user
revoke drop any table from user

joe
Chuan Zhang wrote:
 
 Hi, All,
 
 I have granted DBA role to an user. But I don't want him  holding the
 "Drop Any Table" system privilege.
 
 I did as follows:
 
 1. Connect as sysdba.
 2. revoke drop any table from ABC-user;
 
 And I got the error:" ORA-01952: system privileges not granted to
 'ABC-user'".
 
 Could anyone help me out?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Oracle's generosity

2001-03-01 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yea i got 2 packages like that.

joe
Steve Adams wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am curious about the generosity of Club Oracle. I signed up as a Club Oracle
 Gold member for $50 prior to OpenWorld last year just to get the $135 discount
 on the OpenWorld registration fee. There was also a gift certificate at
 Amazon.com and a gift pack thrown in. I chose the "Kids pack" containing adult
 and child size Club Oracle T-shirts.
 
 I was a little surprised about a month after OpenWorld when a second such gift
 pack arrived. I was even more surprised today when the third identical gift pack
 arrived. I've now got 6 Club Oracle T-shirts! Anyone else?
 
 @   Regards,
 @   Steve Adams
 @   http://www.ixora.com.au/
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Re: Help - Tuning SQL

2001-02-28 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Since you insisted on no guessing the only true test is for you to do
it.  Since we dont have your database to test it out on,

its time for you to bust out the documentation, look at explain plan,
tkprof,.


Happy testing.

joe

I've got some simple questions on tuning SQL. Please reply with
references,
I'm not looking for guesses.

*   If you have a SELECT statement with a WHERE clause and 2 AND
clauses, which one is processed first, the WHERE clause, the first AND
clause, or the second AND clause?
*   Is there any performance loss in using "" over "!="?

Michael Armstead
Database Administrator, OCP-Certified
Corporate  Finance Information Systems
Glaxo SmithKline

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Standby database question

2001-02-28 Thread Joseph S. Testa

So my standby is in managed recovery mode.

i was curious internally how does oracle send the archive logs across
from primary to standby machine(they are physically separate).

i know it goes via net8, does it do some internal fopen to write it out
and apply it, or am i way out in left field here.

thanks, joe

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standby database question - solved

2001-02-28 Thread Joseph S. Testa

never mind, i found it, the RFS(remote file server)  process handles it.

joe

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Re: Unix Cron job help

2001-02-27 Thread Joseph S. Testa

in the cron job write out a file that tells success or not and have job
b read it.

joe
David Jones wrote:
 
 Dear Lister:
 
 I have two cron jobs which run at 10:30 PM  2:00 AM, job A performed a DB
 hot backup and job B will put those backup files into tapes. The problem is
 job B is based on the success completion of job A. How can I write the unix
 script for job B to do this check ? Please help.
 
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