Re: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread prem

Is it possible to download the ORAC software from some site, if so where from..?

Re: Port usage?

2002-10-24 Thread Peter Gram
Don

Oracle is doing the normal ting : it is using port 1521 for calls to 
find the listener and then calling back on another port
to spread the load over multiple port's.  This is done a port has a 
limited queue to hold in-  and out- coming messages.
If you what to use Oracle listener and database behind a firewall by a 
sql*net proxy for the firewall and  the firewall is then
able to handle sql*net without problems.

Don wrote:

Environment:
  Oracle 8.1.6
  AIX server behind a firewall
  db is accessed by a Windows application running on a IIS web server 
sitting outside the firewall
  db uses port 1521


After a flurry of email between the Unix admin and the 4 software 
vendors concerned, all the fingers are now pointing at that damn 
oracle database.  The Unix admin is asking two questions:

1) what Oracle is doing with the four ports 20,000 - 20,003
2) can he shut them down?


Any ideas are appreciated.


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RE: oracle or mssql

2002-10-24 Thread GKor
goodmorning
everybody who responded to my basic question : thanks

summary

professional : use oracle enterprise edition
semi professional : use oracle standard edition / mssql enterprise edition
in all other cases mssql standard edition



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how many async_io processes to invoke? - AIX ora 7.3

2002-10-24 Thread Rahul
list, 
to give async_io a boost, i increased the minimum server parameter in AIX 
to 15 (from 2) .. 

now while doing a ps -Al i see only 4 kproc which are busy !! rest has ZERO
excution time
infront of them.. !!

how do i determine the optimum number of minimum async_io servers for a db
which has

1) all files (17 of them) on raw volumes, spread over 4 disks
2) two files are hot.. both on separate hdisks
3) process inserts 20million+ records in two big tables


TIA

-rahul


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Re: Port usage?

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
we had the same problem and we found that oracle use the standard port only
to make the initial connection. All the traffic after that is done on
different ports. So you need to open the range that oracle use in the
firewall.

Yechiel Adar
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 Environment:
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db is accessed by a Windows application running on a IIS web server
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db uses port 1521


 After a flurry of email between the Unix admin and the 4 software vendors
 concerned, all the fingers are now pointing at that damn oracle
 database.  The Unix admin is asking two questions:

 1) what Oracle is doing with the four ports 20,000 - 20,003
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RE: Download Oracle 7.3.4

2002-10-24 Thread Bishop Lewis
Although, you should *apparently* be able to load the 7.3.4 version of SCO
on Linux - or maybe that's just an urban myth!

Yes, i remember installing the first version of 8 on Linux (hey I had some
time on my hands) and it was a bit of a nightmare - back to the days when
Oracle had 2 hits on metalink for Linux! ;-)
 
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The first version of Oracle that ran on Linux was the early adoptor
pre-release of 8.0.5 in 1998

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Hi list,
 
  I need to do some testing in an Oracle 7.3.4 for linux (redhat), 
where can I download this Oracle version from?

it doesn't appear to be online in OTN.


thanks for your help.
Greetings
Diego Cutrone



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Re: Port usage?

2002-10-24 Thread Gene Sais
the firewall should use sqlnet proxy.  most firewalls support it and if this one 
doesn't scrap it!  only the initial connection is made on port 1521.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 05:44AM 
we had the same problem and we found that oracle use the standard port only
to make the initial connection. All the traffic after that is done on
different ports. So you need to open the range that oracle use in the
firewall.

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 Environment:
Oracle 8.1.6
AIX server behind a firewall
db is accessed by a Windows application running on a IIS web server
 sitting outside the firewall
db uses port 1521


 After a flurry of email between the Unix admin and the 4 software vendors
 concerned, all the fingers are now pointing at that damn oracle
 database.  The Unix admin is asking two questions:

 1) what Oracle is doing with the four ports 20,000 - 20,003
 2) can he shut them down?


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Suse 7.1 Oracle 8.1.7

2002-10-24 Thread Vladimir Barac



Good day to 
everyone

* After installing 8.1.7 on Suse 7.1 
there is glibc patch from technet that has to be applied... No problems here... 
But, after applying 8.1.7.4 
patch do I have to run glibc patch once again?

* Does Suse 7.1 (and it's utilities tar, 
gzip...) together with ext3 file system support files over 2GB in 
size?


Thanks,
Vladimir 
Barac


secure connection

2002-10-24 Thread MURAT BALKAS

Hi,

  how can I be sure that the connection between our web server and
Oracle Server to be secure. What's the best method to accomplish this?

  Any good links for Oracle Nwtwork Security.

  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Murat


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RE: Deploying a 6i Form to the web

2002-10-24 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
There are a number of technical articles on Metalink re. this.

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Dan,
 
Oracle Apps 11i uses Dev 6i to deploy Forms on the Web. I vaguely remember
some presentations at IOUG 2002! on this very same subject - you could
search the IOUG Technical repository...
 
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is Forms 6i Server not an option?

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One of our developers (not a duhveloper) has asked if I know how (step by
step instructions) to deploy a 6i form to the web. He has only found
theoretical info and needs more hands on info. I have no clue (unless it can
be done using UNDO internal structures...)
 
Any websites, books, presentations, etc. are greatly appreciated...
 
Dan Fink

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Oracle Server with Linux client

2002-10-24 Thread PK_Deepa/VGIL
We are having a client machine with Linux as OS.
Our Oracle server is installed on Windows NT.

Does Linux support Oracle Developer 2000.
If so how do we connect  our linux client with oracle server ?
Is there any difference in configuration of Net 8 (tnsnames.ora)
If yes then pls give the configuration

Thank you,
Deepa


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what is purify

2002-10-24 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom



ORA-01008:not all variables bound

2002-10-24 Thread PK_Deepa/VGIL
While executing the following database trigger (update) we are getting the
following error message
ORA-01008:not all variables bound. We are working on Oracle 8.0.3

We have written this trigger to get the column name,old and new values of
fields of a  table (locmast) while updating.
We do not want to hard code the field names ,so that in future if a new
field is added we need not have
to alter the trigger.

declare
 v_rowid   varchar2(50);
  cursor cur_loc  is select column_name from all_tab_columns where
table_name='LOCMAST';
 v_val  varchar2(120);
 cur_id number;
 v_rec_id  number;
begin
cur_id:=dbms_sql.open_cursor;
for rec_loc in cur_loc loop
dbms_sql.parse(cur_id, 'select :old.'||rec_loc.column_name||' from
dual' ,dbms_sql.native);
  dbms_sql.define_column_char(cur_id,1,v_val,120);
  v_rec_id := dbms_sql.execute_and_fetch(cur_id);
  dbms_sql.column_value_char(cur_id,1,v_val);
end loop;
end;

Thanks
Deepa


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Re: Oracle Server with Linux client

2002-10-24 Thread Jan Pruner
On Thursday 24 October 2002 14:49, you wrote:
 We are having a client machine with Linux as OS.
 Our Oracle server is installed on Windows NT.

 Does Linux support Oracle Developer 2000.
I don't know.

 If so how do we connect  our linux client with oracle server ?
Download Oracle for Linux and select to install only client software in 
installation GUI.

 Is there any difference in configuration of Net 8 (tnsnames.ora)
No.


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RE: what is purify

2002-10-24 Thread Stephane Faroult
Now in a dump, Oracle see's something called purify
and want us to disable it to see if that makes a
difference.

Never heard of purify - what is this??


A product which checks memory allocation - that you are not writing at an address 
location you have freed or that you have no memory leak. They somewhat intercept calls 
to malloc(), free() and the like before forwarding them to the memory. May have some 
impact on performance but I doubt the Oracle explanation. I think that Oracle uses 
this product (not enough), the reference to it may well be in their code.

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
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Re: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Stell


Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,
  
 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl to
 work with SNMP?
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 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
  
 #!/usr/local/bin/perl
  
 use BER;
  
 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;
  
 getopts(h:i:);
  
 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;
  
 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;
  
 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
  
 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
 
  
  
 
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 Thanks Dennis, Gary 
 
 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.
 
 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
 
 Raj 
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 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc.
 
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 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable 
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on 
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you. 
1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this 
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then 
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 
   
 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give 
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your 
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 
 
 
 Dennis Williams 
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 Lifetouch, Inc. 
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 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information rather
 
 than running queries against the db? 
 
 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do this 
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would really
 
 appreciate that. 
 
 TIA 
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Re: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:21PM -0800, Tim Gorman wrote:
 A couple of anecdotes to consider:
   a.. Some folks from the Oak Table forum (www.oaktable.net) recently (last July) 
constructed a 10-node cluster of Linux laptops right on the conference floor at 
Oracle Open World in Copenhagen, Denmark.  Information is available at 
http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-20212349-0.html?tag=ats.  
So it can definitely be done on the cheap! 


hmm...first time I've ever seen NetApp and cheap used together.  What is
the real poor man's shared disk architecture?  NFS?
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SGA larger than 4GB

2002-10-24 Thread chao_ping
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hi, list friends:
About SGA , shmmax, ISM on solaris 
Sun Solaris 7 64bit oracle

Unix Kernel Parameter:
/etc/system
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax=3D4294967295

Unix kernel statistics;
oracle@main-db1$ipcs -ma
IPC status from as of Thu Oct 24 20:23:25 CST 2002
T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NATTCH SEGSZ CPID LPID=
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Shared Memory:
m 0 0x500483d0 --rw-r--r-- root root root root 1 68 305 305=
 6:31:42 6:31:42 6:31:42
m 101 0x41180c94 --rw-r- oracle oinstall oracle oinstall 398=
 4711727104 1732 8979 20:20:00 20:20:00 8:30:38

Current database sga:
19:57:31 SQL show sga

Total System Global Area 4711026364 bytes
Fixed Size 102076 bytes
Variable Size 415678464 bytes
Database Buffers 4294967296 bytes
Redo Buffers 278528 bytes
As the document said, if the sga is larger than shmmax, oracle=
 will allocate more than one shared memory segment,right?


But in my case, as you can see,SGA =3D 4.7Gb, shmmax =3D4GB

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RE: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Oracle Real Application Clusters





If I remember right we had some problems with gsd and nfs ...


Raj
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Subject: Re: Oracle Real Application Clusters



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:21PM -0800, Tim Gorman wrote:
 A couple of anecdotes to consider:
 a.. Some folks from the Oak Table forum (www.oaktable.net) recently (last July) constructed a 10-node cluster of Linux laptops right on the conference floor at Oracle Open World in Copenhagen, Denmark. Information is available at http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-20212349-0.html?tag=ats. So it can definitely be done on the cheap! 


hmm...first time I've ever seen NetApp and cheap used together. What is
the real poor man's shared disk architecture? NFS?
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Re: Oracle Server with Linux client

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Stell
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 04:49:28AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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RE: Theory v Practice

2002-10-24 Thread Craig Healey
Thanks for all your comments (especially the ones that made me laugh).
Now at least I have some input from experienced people to put before my
boss.

Craig

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 Sent: 23 October 2002 18:45
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Theory v Practice
 
 
 The developers working on our new VB app are also responsible for
 setting up the Oracle DB behind it. The app is for an order
 entry/despatch/warehouse system with 5 million customers and 1000
 orders per day. We have nearly 400 tables. They are not planning on
 using primary keys/secondary keys, as they say they will 
 handle all the
 constraints via VB.
 I only have a theoretical knowledge of database design, which 
 says this
 is very wrong. Is the Oracle system being used as anything 
 more than an
 expensive file system? In real world scenarios, is this a common
 practice?
 
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RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

2002-10-24 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)

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Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,
  
 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl to
 work with SNMP?
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 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
  
 #!/usr/local/bin/perl
  
 use BER;
  
 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;
  
 getopts(h:i:);
  
 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;
  
 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;
  
 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
  
 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
 
  
  
 
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 Thanks Dennis, Gary 
 
 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.
 
 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
 
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 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable 
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on 
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you. 
1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this 
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then 
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 
   
 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give 
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your 
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 
 
 
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 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information rather
 
 than running queries against the db? 
 
 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do this 
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would really
 
 appreciate that. 
 
 TIA 
 Raj 
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RE: Download Oracle 7.3.4

2002-10-24 Thread Sherman, Edward
Oooo! I forgot about the SCO.
I never tried it but I had read about it.

Those were the days eh?

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Although, you should *apparently* be able to load the 7.3.4 version of SCO
on Linux - or maybe that's just an urban myth!

Yes, i remember installing the first version of 8 on Linux (hey I had some
time on my hands) and it was a bit of a nightmare - back to the days when
Oracle had 2 hits on metalink for Linux! ;-)
 
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The first version of Oracle that ran on Linux was the early adoptor
pre-release of 8.0.5 in 1998

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Hi list,
 
  I need to do some testing in an Oracle 7.3.4 for linux (redhat), 
where can I download this Oracle version from?

it doesn't appear to be online in OTN.


thanks for your help.
Greetings
Diego Cutrone



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RE: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Here are the papers I found. A word of caution: these are written by sales
critters so as a hard-core techie if you read more than 3 papers your head
will explode.
http://technet.oracle.com/deploy/availability/techlisting.html
http://technet.oracle.com/deploy/availability/techlisting.html 
 


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Hi, 
Could you please give me the links to these white papers...? 



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Tim - Gee, during the original presentation I attended, RAC was presented as
a cost-saving feature. Something about being able to use a lot of cheap
Linux servers. This stuck me as a little odd at the time. Just now, I looked
at the white papers that Oracle posts on the subject, and I didn't see the
cost-saving aspect mentioned. Or maybe Oracle is still getting the Linux
ball rolling.




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Aye to that, but you'll need at least two, possibly three, identical
clusters, not just one.  One cluster for production and an identical cluster
for QA/Test, and possibly one for development (though that last is often
regarded as unnecessary).  Skimping on the QA/Test environment is the
leading edge of failure...

RAC itself requires additional DBA expertise as well as additional OS
SysAdmin expertise for cluster hardware/OS, each of which costs more to
obtain/maintain (either by hiring experienced/talented or training to build
or both).  Clustering is not a low-cost solution from any perspective...

RAC is a solution for certain specific high-availability and
high-scaleability requirements (not including data-center failure, a.k.a.
disaster-recovery), so it's a good idea to be certain that you are planning
a solution that meets your own specific requirements before proceeding.  RAC
should not be a high-level management decision -- it is a specific technical
solution to meet specific technical requirements, which themselves should
have been derived from the requirements of the business.  There are several
other possible H/A solutions in Oracle9i (i.e. physical standby, logical
standby, advanced replication, OS failover solutions, RAC, etc), each of
which addresses the same H/A problems in different ways with differing
levels of complexity and cost.

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IMHO, the main requirement is that you have to have a system that needs to
be up 24x7 on a cluster and your ability to fork enough money to Oracle and
your server vendor (to get two identical machines) and your networking
vendor (for redundant network connections).

Rest everything is easy ...

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Dear All,

We are planning to implement ORAC for our application, can anybody tell me
where to get good information on the system requirements for implementing
the same.

Regards
Prem

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Re: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread Tim Gorman
NetApp is NFS;  so are all current NAS products...

The phrases NetApp and cheap are *always* used together -- it is their
most compelling feature.  CFOs love NetApps.  For database usage however,
they are best used in non-demanding situations (i.e. low I/O volumes).  The
phrase filer is very apt -- their very best application is simple
file-serving; Windows network drive or UNIX file-system.  But not underneath
any I/O-intensive application such as a busy database-based application.
Any I/O subsystem (such as NAS) that relies on a cache for performance is
simply pure trouble for busy databases -- DEC knew it in the 80s and EMC
discovered it in the 90s.  Now NetApp knows in the 00s (does that rhyme?)...

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 On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:21PM -0800, Tim Gorman wrote:
  A couple of anecdotes to consider:
a.. Some folks from the Oak Table forum (www.oaktable.net) recently
(last July) constructed a 10-node cluster of Linux laptops right on the
conference floor at Oracle Open World in Copenhagen, Denmark.  Information
is available at
http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-20212349-0.html?
tag=ats.  So it can definitely be done on the cheap!


 hmm...first time I've ever seen NetApp and cheap used together.  What is
 the real poor man's shared disk architecture?  NFS?
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RE: Theory v Practice - and business logic...

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
As this topic just hits my hot button, I'm going to chime in my 2 cents
worth in as well. This in spite of the fact that you have already gotten
some great responses.

I come from an environment where we have distributed data all over creation.
IMS, DB2, Oracle, you name it we have it popping up everywhere. When a new
project pops up, guess what the first question is: Does the source of record
that we need for this application already exist somewhere?

Now, if it does, I've got a HUGE problem if I am not enforcing the RI on
this source data, particularly if this new application is going to be
manipulating it somehow. Then, as others have mentioned, there are the
power users who figure out ODBC and access or Excel.. God help you when
they get busy.

Another issue with regards to FK/PK's is the use of some Oracle features,
such as query rewrite and MViews, which require these structures to be used.
While you may not plan on using those features now, there is no telling what
the future may hold.

Simply put, using defined Pk/FK is a best practice. If you have issues with
the validation of FK's (for example in a warehouse environment) then enable
them without validation.

This leads me to another related hot button topic, thats business logic. In
my mind (though I'm having a hard time selling it to apps) the business
logic belongs in the database. This for the very same reasons that FK/PK's
need to be in place, scalability. That way, when I have new applications
coming on line that need to interface with the data, the same business rules
are consistently followed. 

Bottom line, one has to think about tomorrow when one designs, not just
today.

More to churn on,

Robert

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The developers working on our new VB app are also responsible for
setting up the Oracle DB behind it. The app is for an order
entry/despatch/warehouse system with 5 million customers and 1000
orders per day. We have nearly 400 tables. They are not planning on
using primary keys/secondary keys, as they say they will handle all the
constraints via VB.
I only have a theoretical knowledge of database design, which says this
is very wrong. Is the Oracle system being used as anything more than an
expensive file system? In real world scenarios, is this a common
practice?

Regards

Craig Healey



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RE: what is purify

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
See:
http://www.rational.com/products/purify_nt/index.jsp

I think this is what they are talking about.

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Have we had several cases where oracle.exe on NT during patching of Oracle
Apps 11i gets a runaway thread.  This thread is not known to Oracle - not in
v$session.  Even if shutdown database, still at 100%.  Must halt the service
for it to resolved.

Oracle is theorizing backupexec from Veritas might be a problem - but
doesn't make sense since that service is always running.

Now in a dump, Oracle see's something called purify and want us to disable
it to see if that makes a difference.

Never heard of purify - what is this??



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RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
The list could be hard for me to get . unless someone else knows where
they are.   I will see what I can get.


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Kevin,
 
This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl to
work with SNMP?
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Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database state,
name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
 
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
 
use BER;
 
use SNMP_Session;
use SNMP_util;
use Getopt::Std;
 
getopts(h:i:);
 
my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
@retvals);
my $session;
 
$host = $opt_h;
$community = public;
$db_index = $opt_i;
 
# Database State
$oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
#Database Name
$oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
  '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
# Consistent Block Gets
$oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
# System Block Gets
$oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
 
my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );

 
 

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Thanks Dennis, Gary 

I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus interface
and if so how to accomplish that.

I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
feasible to do it be some scripting ... 

Raj 
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Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable 
will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on 
the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you. 
   1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this 
would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then 
based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
   2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 
  
If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give 
away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your 
goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 


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Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information rather

than running queries against the db? 

I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do this 
(esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would really

appreciate that. 

TIA 
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Re: secure connection

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hire a special company that handle this.
We are doing it to see how unbreakable are our servers.

Yechiel Adar
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   how can I be sure that the connection between our web server and
 Oracle Server to be secure. What's the best method to accomplish this?
 
   Any good links for Oracle Nwtwork Security.
 
   Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Stell
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 If I remember right we had some problems with gsd and nfs ...
 

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RE: Suggestions solicited - Change Column Datatype from Number to

2002-10-24 Thread Rick_Cale

Could you preserve the constraints and indices if you do somthing similar
like

  create table temp as select * from table1 nologging
  TRUNCATE table table1
   
 
 ALTER TABLE table1
 
   NOLOGGING;  
 
   
 



  ALTER TABLE table1 MODIFY(column...);

  Do a direct load insert
   
 
ALTER TABLE table1 
LOGGING; 
   
 
   
 



  DROP TABLE temp

I have not done direct load insert but read it can be done for NOLOGGING
Rick



   

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Deepak, If there are many columns on these tables, your method may be best.
However, this will generate a lot of redo. You can usually accomplish this
with a CTAS nologging, which won't generate redo. If you really don't want
to change the location, you can:
create table temp as select * from table1 nologging
drop table table1
create table table1 (column, column . . . ) as select * from temp
nologging
drop table temp




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We have a need to change the datatype of several columns in a table from
number to varchar2. Most of the rows have data in these columns hence a
direct 'alter table ...' will not work.

We plan to create a temp table, move the data from these colums to that
table, modify the column datatype from number to varchar2 and then update
the colums with the data that was moved to the temp table.

Any suggestions/comments or a better way to do this ? Oh, and we are on
8.1.7.1

thanx
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RE: Suggestions solicited - Change Column Datatype from Number to

2002-10-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Dennis,

That's a good thought, and it works if you don't have grants,
constraints or dependencies on the original table.

If you drop table1, you lose them all

Rachel

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 Deepak, If there are many columns on these tables, your method may be
 best.
 However, this will generate a lot of redo. You can usually accomplish
 this
 with a CTAS nologging, which won't generate redo. If you really don't
 want
 to change the location, you can:
 create table temp as select * from table1 nologging
 drop table table1
 create table table1 (column, column . . . ) as select * from temp
 nologging
 drop table temp
  
 
 
 
 Dennis Williams 
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 We have a need to change the datatype of several columns in a table
 from
 number to varchar2. Most of the rows have data in these columns hence
 a
 direct 'alter table ...' will not work. 
  
 We plan to create a temp table, move the data from these colums to
 that
 table, modify the column datatype from number to varchar2 and then
 update
 the colums with the data that was moved to the temp table.
  
 Any suggestions/comments or a better way to do this ? Oh, and we are
 on
 8.1.7.1
  
 thanx
 deepak 
  
 
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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
I buy lots of books from Bookpool!! :-) I buy from Amazon too but those are
normally non technical books.

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Rafiq,

I was teasing... I buy books from discount places as well. Including
bookpool

Rachel


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 Interesting, I never thought of it. I feel sorry for that if it is
 reducing 
 royalty of Roberts, but my intention was different and  to help
 others to 
 reduce their cost of this book. Besides I am very much satisfied with
 the 
 services/prices of bookpool.com
 
 
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 because the author's royalties are based in part on what the book
 sells
 for?
 
 just doing my part to keep Robert's kids fed :)
 
 
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   Oracle9i RMAN Backup  Recovery
  Freeman, et al / McGraw Hill / 2002 / 0072226625
  Our Price $30.95 ~ You Save $19.04 (38% Off)
  
   Regards
   Rafiq
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...
  
   Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
   Oracle Database Architect
   CSX Midtier Database Administration
   Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
  
   Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same
 package.
   How
   efficient of you.
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:09 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   Where?
  
   Yechiel Adar
   Mehish
   - Original Message -
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:44 PM
  
  
   Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery
 (with
   co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!
  
   And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like
 it..
   hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.
  
   RF
  
   Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
   Oracle Database Architect
   CSX Midtier Database Administration
   Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
  
   Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same
 package.
   How
   efficient of you.
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  
   Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
   That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.
  
  
  
   On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,

 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle
 uses?
   Can
   you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required
   for Perl
   to
 work with SNMP?
 John Kanagaraj
 Oracle Applications DBA
 DBSoft Inc
 (W): 408-970-7002

 What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your
 life
   at the
   end
 of your journey in this earth?

 ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and
 not
   those of
   my
 employer or clients **



  -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
   database
   state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:

 #!/usr/local/bin/perl

 use BER;

 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;

 getopts(h:i:);

 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value,
   @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;

 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;

 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );



 
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RE: [Q] wield create view error, need help?

2002-10-24 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Grant privileges on v_$sysstat




   
 
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Thank you for your help.  I follow your instruction and granr privilege.
It
fixed me a lot of errors.  Currently, I have another problem still create
view problem.


SQL CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW WWV_DBA_SGA ( COMPONENT_GROUP,
  2  MEMORY_SIZE_IN_BYTES ) AS select name component_group, bytes
memory_size_in_bytes from v$sgastat
  3  .
SQL /
MEMORY_SIZE_IN_BYTES ) AS select name component_group, bytes
memory_size_in_bytes from v$sgastat

*
ERROR at line 2:
ORA-00942: table or view does not exist


I tried to grant privilege and got error:


SQL grant select on sys.v$sgastat to portal30;
grant select on sys.v$sgastat to portal30
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-02030: can only select from fixed tables/views


Do you have ideal how to fix this problem?

Thanks


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RE: Table Index sizing utility

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Rick - I'm sure there are a lot of good sizing programs around. And hey,
awhile back I was just as anal as everyone else, struggling to estimate
everything to the last K. I've got another idea for you to consider. If you
switch to LMTs and autoextend, then you don't need to spend nearly as much
time fussing with this.
As to data sizes, the SQL manual mentions this with each data type.
If you are uncertain about a specific datatype, reply.

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Hi DBAs,

Does anyone have a table  index sizing utility program/script they can
share?
Also where can I find out exactly how much storage Oracle allocates for
every datatype?  I checked the concepts manual but could not
find it.

Thanks
Rick


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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Rachel,

Thanks. Basically I don't like Amazon because of various reasons and my bad 
experience with them. Besides , we normally buy technical books at our own 
so everybody try to reduce their cost, Right

Regards
Rafiq










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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:50:19 -0800

Rafiq,

I was teasing... I buy books from discount places as well. Including
bookpool

Rachel


--- Mohammad Rafiq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,

 Interesting, I never thought of it. I feel sorry for that if it is
 reducing
 royalty of Roberts, but my intention was different and  to help
 others to
 reduce their cost of this book. Besides I am very much satisfied with
 the
 services/prices of bookpool.com


 Regards
 Rafiq










 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:43:09 -0800

 because the author's royalties are based in part on what the book
 sells
 for?

 just doing my part to keep Robert's kids fed :)


 --- Mohammad Rafiq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why pay more, Try www.bookpool.com
  
  
   Oracle9i RMAN Backup  Recovery
  Freeman, et al / McGraw Hill / 2002 / 0072226625
  Our Price $30.95 ~ You Save $19.04 (38% Off)
  
   Regards
   Rafiq
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:48:55 -0800
  
   Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...
  
   Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
   Oracle Database Architect
   CSX Midtier Database Administration
   Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
  
   Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same
 package.
   How
   efficient of you.
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:09 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   Where?
  
   Yechiel Adar
   Mehish
   - Original Message -
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:44 PM
  
  
   Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery
 (with
   co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!
  
   And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like
 it..
   hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.
  
   RF
  
   Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
   Oracle Database Architect
   CSX Midtier Database Administration
   Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
  
   Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same
 package.
   How
   efficient of you.
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  
   Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
   That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.
  
  
  
   On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,

 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle
 uses?
   Can
   you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required
   for Perl
   to
 work with SNMP?
 John Kanagaraj
 Oracle Applications DBA
 DBSoft Inc
 (W): 408-970-7002

 What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your
 life
   at the
   end
 of your journey in this earth?

 ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and
 not
   those of
   my
 employer or clients **



  -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
   database
   state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:

 #!/usr/local/bin/perl

 use BER;

 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;

 getopts(h:i:);

 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value,
   @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;

 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;

 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );




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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Rafiq,

I was teasing... I buy books from discount places as well. Including
bookpool

Rachel


--- Mohammad Rafiq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,
 
 Interesting, I never thought of it. I feel sorry for that if it is
 reducing 
 royalty of Roberts, but my intention was different and  to help
 others to 
 reduce their cost of this book. Besides I am very much satisfied with
 the 
 services/prices of bookpool.com
 
 
 Regards
 Rafiq
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:43:09 -0800
 
 because the author's royalties are based in part on what the book
 sells
 for?
 
 just doing my part to keep Robert's kids fed :)
 
 
 --- Mohammad Rafiq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why pay more, Try www.bookpool.com
  
  
   Oracle9i RMAN Backup  Recovery
  Freeman, et al / McGraw Hill / 2002 / 0072226625
  Our Price $30.95 ~ You Save $19.04 (38% Off)
  
   Regards
   Rafiq
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:48:55 -0800
  
   Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...
  
   Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
   Oracle Database Architect
   CSX Midtier Database Administration
   Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
  
   Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same
 package.
   How
   efficient of you.
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:09 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   Where?
  
   Yechiel Adar
   Mehish
   - Original Message -
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:44 PM
  
  
   Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery
 (with
   co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!
  
   And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like
 it..
   hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.
  
   RF
  
   Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
   Oracle Database Architect
   CSX Midtier Database Administration
   Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
  
   Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same
 package.
   How
   efficient of you.
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  
   Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
   That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.
  
  
  
   On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,

 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle
 uses?
   Can
   you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required
   for Perl
   to
 work with SNMP?
 John Kanagaraj
 Oracle Applications DBA
 DBSoft Inc
 (W): 408-970-7002

 What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your
 life
   at the
   end
 of your journey in this earth?

 ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and
 not
   those of
   my
 employer or clients **



  -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
   database
   state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:

 #!/usr/local/bin/perl

 use BER;

 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;

 getopts(h:i:);

 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value,
   @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;

 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;

 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );



 
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Find Queries by a group of users

2002-10-24 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
Hi all,

We were trying to find a way to get all queries by a
group of users of the database. Auditing the users
lets us know whether they ran a 'select' 'update' etc.
but not the full text of the query. This is in 8i.

9i seems to have a view called DBA_FGA_AUDIT_TRAIL
which has a SQL_TEXT column.

Please advice.



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RE: Suggestions solicited - Change Column Datatype from Number to

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Deepak, If there are many columns on these tables, your method may be best.
However, this will generate a lot of redo. You can usually accomplish this
with a CTAS nologging, which won't generate redo. If you really don't want
to change the location, you can:
create table temp as select * from table1 nologging
drop table table1
create table table1 (column, column . . . ) as select * from temp
nologging
drop table temp
 



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:15 PM
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We have a need to change the datatype of several columns in a table from
number to varchar2. Most of the rows have data in these columns hence a
direct 'alter table ...' will not work. 
 
We plan to create a temp table, move the data from these colums to that
table, modify the column datatype from number to varchar2 and then update
the colums with the data that was moved to the temp table.
 
Any suggestions/comments or a better way to do this ? Oh, and we are on
8.1.7.1
 
thanx
deepak 
 

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Re: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE

2002-10-24 Thread JApplewhite

Seema,

Our production Student Information database (8.1.7 under Win2k) has 40,000
tables and 60,000 indexes.  It's a third party app designed for dBaseIV -
go ahead and laugh, we do all the time (when we're not crying).  Anyhow, we
have to regularly clone out the data to a couple of other databases, both
on HPUX.  The different OS means we have to use export/import, not restore
from hot backup or transportable tablespaces, to move the data.

Both of the recipient databases (with dictionary-managed tablespaces)
started out needing about 2 hours to drop all the tables and indexes
(tables change, so we can't truncate) and about 6 hours to import the full
dataset.  After several refreshes the time requirement grew to almost 30
hours for each DB.  I think the data dictionary tables that record info.
about tables, indexes, and extents (someone else on this list could
probably name the very ones) got totally mucked up (a techical term) after
so many massive drops and creates.

After I recreated the recipient tablespaces as locally-managed, drop and
import times returned to 2 and 6 hours, respectively, and have remained
there through numerous subsequent refreshes.  Needless to say, we are
*very* happy with LMTs.

BTW, our Student Info. system is clunky (we're going to redesign it into a
couple hundred partitioned tables with 40,000 views and 120,000 Instead-Of
Triggers, but that's another story) but several thousand teachers and
administrators basically like the way it manages our 80,000 students.
How's that for a client base?

Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator
Austin Independent School District
Austin, Texas
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Hi
I am thinking to change our few dictinary manages tablespace to locally
managed tablespace.Can any one experienced any issues with locally managed
tablespace?
Do any one experience what gain after changing to locally managed
tablespace?

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RE: System Tablespace and Autoextend

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sam - 
   I haven't made the system tablespace autoextend because I can't easily
recover the space if it overextends. I would rather take the risk that
something hits an error from a lack of space in the system tablespace. With
other tablespaces you can always rebuild the tablespace if you need to.

Dennis Williams
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Hello All,

I have heard several times that if the SYSTEM tablespace runs out of space
and needs to autoextend (assuming autoextend is turned on for the data
file), then you run the risk of the database crashing and of data dictionary
corruption.  I have never personally encountered this problem, so I have no
experience on what actually does happen.

I looked in metalink for documents on this, but turned up nothing.  Does
anybody have experience on the dangers of allowing the SYSTEM tablespace to
autoextend and also any documents on Metalink or OTN that describe this
problem? 

We are running Oracle versions 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.7, and 9.2.  All our Oracle
versions are running on Windows NT (or Windows 2000).

Thanks for any feedback.

Sam Bootsma, OCP
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Table Index sizing utility

2002-10-24 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi DBAs,

Does anyone have a table  index sizing utility program/script they can
share?
Also where can I find out exactly how much storage Oracle allocates for
every datatype?  I checked the concepts manual but could not
find it.

Thanks
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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Rachel,

Interesting, I never thought of it. I feel sorry for that if it is reducing 
royalty of Roberts, but my intention was different and  to help others to 
reduce their cost of this book. Besides I am very much satisfied with the 
services/prices of bookpool.com


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because the author's royalties are based in part on what the book sells
for?

just doing my part to keep Robert's kids fed :)


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 Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...

 Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
 Oracle Database Architect
 CSX Midtier Database Administration
 Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!

 Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package.
 How
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 Where?

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 Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
 co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!

 And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
 hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.

 RF

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 MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)

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 Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
 That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



 On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
   Kevin,
  
   This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses?
 Can
 you
   also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required
 for Perl
 to
   work with SNMP?
   John Kanagaraj
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   Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
 database
 state,
   name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
  
   #!/usr/local/bin/perl
  
   use BER;
  
   use SNMP_Session;
   use SNMP_util;
   use Getopt::Std;
  
   getopts(h:i:);
  
   my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value,
 @oid,
   @retvals);
   my $session;
  
   $host = $opt_h;
   $community = public;
   $db_index = $opt_i;
  
   # Database State
   $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
   #Database Name
   $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
 '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
   # Consistent Block Gets
   $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
   # System Block Gets
   $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
  
   my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
  
  
  
  
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   Thanks Dennis, Gary
  
   I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no
 problem with
   that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the
 idea that
 I
   could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
 interface
   and if so how to accomplish that.
  
   I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it
 would be
   feasible to do it be some scripting ...
  
   Raj
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Re: Full Import/tablespace sizes

2002-10-24 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Mike,

While not necessary, it would be a good idea to precreate the tablespaces.
Else, for a clean import the first time, you would need to ensure that the
directory structure for the datafiles exists, you have the permissions to
create files at the OS level, ensure that files dont already exist (avoid
Destroy=Y), et all.  Else, you might find yourself running the import,
shouting crap, fixing and re-running the import.

Raj




   
  
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already
need to be set up before the import?  How can you query the database to get
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Re: System Tablespace and Autoextend

2002-10-24 Thread JApplewhite

Sam,

Autoextend caused tablespace corruption for me once, but it was over 5
years ago with Personal Oracle 7.3.2.3 on Win95 - not the most reliable OS
that Oracle has ever ported to.   ;-)

We have several 8.1.7 databases here, on both Win2k and HPUX.  Autoextend,
even on System, has caused no problems that I'm aware of.

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Hello All,

I have heard several times that if the SYSTEM tablespace runs out of space
and needs to autoextend (assuming autoextend is turned on for the data
file), then you run the risk of the database crashing and of data
dictionary
corruption.  I have never personally encountered this problem, so I have no
experience on what actually does happen.

I looked in metalink for documents on this, but turned up nothing.  Does
anybody have experience on the dangers of allowing the SYSTEM tablespace to
autoextend and also any documents on Metalink or OTN that describe this
problem?

We are running Oracle versions 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.7, and 9.2.  All our
Oracle
versions are running on Windows NT (or Windows 2000).

Thanks for any feedback.

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Re: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
Title: Flat file generation integrity ideas...



I do not see how the file can get 
"scrambled".
You write it out ok.
The ftp is guaranteed.
So what is the problem.

I will go along with the suggestion to zip it. It saves on 
the ftp time and also gives you some protection.

Yechiel AdarMehish

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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:34 
  PM
  Subject: Flat file generation integrity 
  ideas...
  
  I have to create packages that will generate 
  several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems to 
  be processed.
  I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
  integrity in the flat files. 
  For example, the expected record count is stored on 
  the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was 
  received.
  The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat 
  files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
  I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
  scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
  corrupting it.
  At this phase, XML is not an option 
  I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
  stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
  loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the 
  just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any examples 
  out there?
  Many TIA!! 


Suggestions solicited - Change Column Datatype from Number to Var

2002-10-24 Thread Suri, Deepak



We have a need to 
change the datatype ofseveral columns in a table from number to 
varchar2.Most of the rows have data in these columns hence a direct 'alter 
table...' will not work. 

We plan to create a 
temp table, move the data from these colums to that table,modify the 
column datatype from number to varchar2 and then update the colums with the data 
that was moved to the temp table.

Any 
suggestions/comments or a better way to do this ? Oh, and we are on 
8.1.7.1

thanx
deepak



RE: Full Import/tablespace sizes

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mike - Yes, you need to create those tablespaces first. If the tablespace
isn't there, import will default to the default tablespace of the username
that is running the import. Select bytes from dba_data_files to find the
tablespace sizes.

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To do an import from a full export of a database, do the tablespaces already
need to be set up before the import?  How can you query the database to get
the tablespace name and the total space needed for each tablespace?
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RE: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Seema - While you are planning your conversion, be sure to carefully read
the paper:
How to stop defragmenting and start living: The definitive word on
fragmentation by Himatsingka and Loaiza so you really understand how to
receive the benefits of LMTs.

It is available on http://www.hotsos.com 
and on http://otn.oracle.com/deploy/availability/pdf/defrag.pdf


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Hi
I am thinking to change our few dictinary manages tablespace to locally 
managed tablespace.Can any one experienced any issues with locally managed 
tablespace?
Do any one experience what gain after changing to locally managed 
tablespace?

Thx
-Seema




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Re: System Tablespace and Autoextend

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello Sam

I do not know specifically about SYSTEM tablespace but from a bitter
experience beware of the 4GB limit. if a datafile on NT/2000 autoextend
beyond a multiple of 4GB (8,12...) then that datafile is GONE. We had a
production database crashing on this problem and had to call in Oracle with
the DUL utility to help get the data out and rebuild the database.

Yechiel Adar
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 Hello All,

 I have heard several times that if the SYSTEM tablespace runs out of space
 and needs to autoextend (assuming autoextend is turned on for the data
 file), then you run the risk of the database crashing and of data
dictionary
 corruption.  I have never personally encountered this problem, so I have
no
 experience on what actually does happen.

 I looked in metalink for documents on this, but turned up nothing.  Does
 anybody have experience on the dangers of allowing the SYSTEM tablespace
to
 autoextend and also any documents on Metalink or OTN that describe this
 problem?

 We are running Oracle versions 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.7, and 9.2.  All our
Oracle
 versions are running on Windows NT (or Windows 2000).

 Thanks for any feedback.

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Re: Full Import/tablespace sizes

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
Full import will rebuild the tablespaces.
browse the export file and you will see the commands inside.

Yechiel Adar
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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Chris - If Tom's idea provides you the protection you require, with
convenience to boot, then it sounds like you have a winner. I think all the
suggestions provide some variety of checksum, a standard computer science
technique. What are your requirements? Mainly to make sure the file doesn't
get truncated? To make sure some of the records don't get changed?

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I will have to keep those in mind, if I ever get back onto a UNIX
platform.

Right now, I'm sticking to Tom's suggestion because I religiously follow
KISS.

Thanks!!

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Chris - I would consider checksums. Many systems have built-in checksum
functions. On Unix these are cksum and sum. You could probably write a
simple one that would work on your various systems. Search for checksum
and somewhere on the Internet is probably sample code for one in a
language that will work for you.
 



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I have to create packages that will generate several flat files of data
from tables that will be sent to other systems to be processed.

I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data integrity in the flat
files. 

For example, the expected record count is stored on the first line of
the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was received.

The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat files are correctly
FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 

I just worry that if somehow a flat file is scrambled then the
scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore corrupting it.

At this phase, XML is not an option 

I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be stored with each line in
the flat file.  And then before the line is loaded into the database,
the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the just read line.
Has anyone done anything like this?  Any examples out there?

Many TIA!! 

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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Message



Trouble with this is that there is a possibility that a change in the 
number in the file could result in the same sum.

Then 
you have different data but your checks says everything is ok. 


Checksums are far more accurate.

  -Original Message-From: Grabowy, Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:49 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Flat file generation integrity ideas...
  (slapping my forehead) Duh.
  
  Nice. I like it. Simple but effective. Minimal impact 
  on performance. And easy for the other systems to implement. 
  
  
  You 
  da man, Tom, I don't care what Jared and Rachel said about 
  you...
  
  Thanks.
  

-Original Message-From: Mercadante, 
Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 
October 24, 2002 2:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Flat file generation integrity 
ideas...
Chris,

have you thought aboutsumming a number column 
in the record and placing this sum in a trailer record? this way, you 
have a header and trailer record which helps you be confident that the whole 
file made it to the target system. and by comparing the sum of the 
imported records with the trailer record, it gives you a better level of 
confidence that things didn't get scrambled.

I 
used to do all sorts of these things when file transfer was not as good as 
it is now. the above method is pretty simple, easy to do, and pretty 
accurate.

hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

  -Original Message-From: Grabowy, Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:35 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Flat file generation integrity ideas...
  I have to create packages that will generate 
  several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems 
  to be processed.
  I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
  integrity in the flat files. 
  For example, the expected record count is 
  stored on the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of 
  records was received.
  The systems group is chartered to ensure the 
  flat files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
  
  I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
  scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
  corrupting it.
  At this phase, XML is not an option 
  I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
  stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
  loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of 
  the just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any 
  examples out there?
  Many TIA!! 



RE: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE

2002-10-24 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: RE: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE





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Subject: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE



Hi
I am thinking to change our few dictinary manages tablespace to locally 
managed tablespace.Can any one experienced any issues with locally managed 
tablespace?
Do any one experience what gain after changing to locally managed 
tablespace?


Thx
-Seema





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Full Import/tablespace sizes

2002-10-24 Thread Mike Sardina
To do an import from a full export of a database, do the tablespaces already
need to be set up before the import?  How can you query the database to get
the tablespace name and the total space needed for each tablespace?
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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris
I will have to keep those in mind, if I ever get back onto a UNIX
platform.

Right now, I'm sticking to Tom's suggestion because I religiously follow
KISS.

Thanks!!

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Chris - I would consider checksums. Many systems have built-in checksum
functions. On Unix these are cksum and sum. You could probably write a
simple one that would work on your various systems. Search for checksum
and somewhere on the Internet is probably sample code for one in a
language that will work for you.
 



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DBA, 40%OCP 
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I have to create packages that will generate several flat files of data
from tables that will be sent to other systems to be processed.

I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data integrity in the flat
files. 

For example, the expected record count is stored on the first line of
the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was received.

The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat files are correctly
FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 

I just worry that if somehow a flat file is scrambled then the
scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore corrupting it.

At this phase, XML is not an option 

I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be stored with each line in
the flat file.  And then before the line is loaded into the database,
the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the just read line.
Has anyone done anything like this?  Any examples out there?

Many TIA!! 

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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: Flat file generation integrity ideas...



Chris;

I 
would suggest the following:
 
1. Generating Check Sums of the files before they are sent.
 
2.Send the files.
 
3. Generating an after Check Sum and compare.

Here 
are the steps I go thru to make sure our Oracle Archive Logs are correctly 
transfered to our Standby Server:

 
1. Zip the Archive Logs into 1 Zip.
 
2. Check Sum the Zip.
 
3. Use the TEST option to make sure the Zip is good.
 
4. RCP the zip file to the standby location.
 
5. RSH a test of the Zip.
 
6. RSH a Check Sum of the Transfered Zip and compare to original 
value.
 
7. Unzip the file


With 
this method you have 2 independent checks the Check Sum and the Zip 
Integrity Check.

-Original Message-From: 
Grabowy, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 
2002 12:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Flat file generation integrity 
ideas...

  I have to create packages that will generate 
  several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems to 
  be processed.
  I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
  integrity in the flat files. 
  For example, the expected record count is stored on 
  the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was 
  received.
  The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat 
  files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
  I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
  scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
  corrupting it.
  At this phase, XML is not an option 
  I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
  stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
  loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the 
  just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any examples 
  out there?
  Many TIA!! 


RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris
Title: Message



(slapping my forehead) Duh.

Nice. I like it. Simple but effective. Minimal impact 
on performance. And easy for the other systems to implement. 


You da 
man, Tom, I don't care what Jared and Rachel said about 
you...

Thanks.

  
  -Original Message-From: Mercadante, 
  Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 
  24, 2002 2:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Flat file generation integrity 
  ideas...
  Chris,
  
  have 
  you thought aboutsumming a number column in the record and placing this 
  sum in a trailer record? this way, you have a header and trailer record 
  which helps you be confident that the whole file made it to the target 
  system. and by comparing the sum of the imported records with the 
  trailer record, it gives you a better level of confidence that things didn't 
  get scrambled.
  
  I 
  used to do all sorts of these things when file transfer was not as good as it 
  is now. the above method is pretty simple, easy to do, and pretty 
  accurate.
  
  hope 
  this helps.
  
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 
  
-Original Message-From: Grabowy, Chris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:35 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Flat file generation integrity ideas...
I have to create packages that will generate 
several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems to 
be processed.
I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
integrity in the flat files. 
For example, the expected record count is stored 
on the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of records 
was received.
The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat 
files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
corrupting it.
At this phase, XML is not an option 
I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of 
the just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any 
examples out there?
Many TIA!! 



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MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)

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Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,

 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can 
you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl
to
 work with SNMP?
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database
state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:

 #!/usr/local/bin/perl

 use BER;

 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;

 getopts(h:i:);

 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;

 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;

 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );




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 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Thanks Dennis, Gary

 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that 
I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.

 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ...

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 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for 
you.

1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts.
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want.

 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2.


 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 40%OCP
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com
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 Sent: 

RE: QUERY?

2002-10-24 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: QUERY?






Without a clearer description of what it isn't doing, my WAG is missing permissions on the views or tables.


Jerry Whittle

ACIFICS DBA

NCI Information Systems Inc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

618-622-4145


-Original Message-

From: Seema Singh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


Hi

Can some one suggest whats wrong in this query?The same query run fine on 

development db but not running on production?

select count(a.xxx_id)

from gorp_cats_stats_view a ,

 static_pages b

where b.xxx_id = a.xxx_id

and b.words like '%test%'

and a.main not like '%test%'

and a.url not like '%test%'


order by a.url


Thx

-Seema





RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: Flat file generation integrity ideas...



Chris,

have 
you thought aboutsumming a number column in the record and placing this 
sum in a trailer record? this way, you have a header and trailer record 
which helps you be confident that the whole file made it to the target 
system. and by comparing the sum of the imported records with the trailer 
record, it gives you a better level of confidence that things didn't get 
scrambled.

I used 
to do all sorts of these things when file transfer was not as good as it is 
now. the above method is pretty simple, easy to do, and pretty 
accurate.

hope 
this helps.

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

  -Original Message-From: Grabowy, Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:35 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Flat 
  file generation integrity ideas...
  I have to create packages that will generate 
  several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems to 
  be processed.
  I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data 
  integrity in the flat files. 
  For example, the expected record count is stored on 
  the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was 
  received.
  The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat 
  files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered. 
  I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is 
  scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore 
  corrupting it.
  At this phase, XML is not an option 
  I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be 
  stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is 
  loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the 
  just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any examples 
  out there?
  Many TIA!! 


RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Chris - I would consider checksums. Many systems have built-in checksum
functions. On Unix these are cksum and sum. You could probably write a
simple one that would work on your various systems. Search for checksum and
somewhere on the Internet is probably sample code for one in a language that
will work for you.
 



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



I have to create packages that will generate several flat files of data from
tables that will be sent to other systems to be processed.

I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data integrity in the flat files. 

For example, the expected record count is stored on the first line of the
file to ensure that the correct amount of records was received.

The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat files are correctly FTPed
between systems, so that's covered. 

I just worry that if somehow a flat file is scrambled then the scrambled
data is loaded into the database, therefore corrupting it.

At this phase, XML is not an option 

I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be stored with each line in the
flat file.  And then before the line is loaded into the database, the CRC is
compared against the generated CRC of the just read line.  Has anyone done
anything like this?  Any examples out there?

Many TIA!! 

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RE: QUERY?

2002-10-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Seema
Have you run an explain plan?
Your query will likely do a full-table scan of both tables. Are they
large?

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Hi
Can some one suggest whats wrong in this query?The same query run fine on 
development db but not running on production?
select count(a.xxx_id)
from   gorp_cats_stats_view a ,
static_pages b
where  b.xxx_id = a.xxx_id
andb.words like '%test%'
anda.main not like '%test%'
anda.url not like '%test%'

order by a.url

Thx
-Seema







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Streams

2002-10-24 Thread David Turner
Has anyone started using the Oracle streams feature? I'm wondering how this
compares to Advanced Rep. I am guessing this approach will provide better 
performance but thought I'd check with the list to see if someone can confirm
this.

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RE: QUERY?

2002-10-24 Thread Weaver, Walt
Man, I can't think of a thing that would cause this.

I'd suggest running tkprof or somesuch on the query in both environments but
it probably wouldn't do any good.

Comparing indexes? Nah, forget it. Not worth the time.

What else, what else???

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

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Hi
Can some one suggest whats wrong in this query?The same query run fine on 
development db but not running on production?
select count(a.xxx_id)
from   gorp_cats_stats_view a ,
static_pages b
where  b.xxx_id = a.xxx_id
andb.words like '%test%'
anda.main not like '%test%'
anda.url not like '%test%'

order by a.url

Thx
-Seema







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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: RE: RMAN - It's Here





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Subject: RMAN - It's Here



Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!


And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it. 


RF


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MIB, hey I saw that movie too. ;o)


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Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.




On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,
 
 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl
to
 work with SNMP?
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Yes. You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database
state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
 
 #!/usr/local/bin/perl
 
 use BER;
 
 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;
 
 getopts(h:i:);
 
 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;
 
 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;
 
 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
 '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
 
 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Thanks Dennis, Gary 
 
 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.
 
 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
 
 Raj 
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 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable 
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on 
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you.


 1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this 
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then 
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
 2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 
 
 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give 
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your 
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 
 
 
 Dennis Williams 
 DBA, 40%OCP 
 Lifetouch, Inc. 
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 -Original Message- 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:39 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 
 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information
rather
 
 than running queries against the db? 
 
 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do
this 
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would
really
 
 appreciate that. 
 
 TIA 
 Raj 
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Re: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Stell
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 06:53:27AM -0800, Tim Gorman wrote:
 NetApp is NFS;  so are all current NAS products...
 
 The phrases NetApp and cheap are *always* used together -- it is their
 most compelling feature.  CFOs love NetApps.  For database usage however,


The netapp sales guy I talked with must have been trying to make his
quota for that quarter in one stop.  Their storage was off the charts
when I talked to them, but it has been awhile. 

So, for testing of rac I could just use nfs disks mounted r/w from 
multiple linux boxes?  I think I'll try it unless someone knows that
dog won't hunt.
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Re: Trivia question - not of any practical use.

2002-10-24 Thread Dennis M. Heisler
The easiest solution I can think of is to set spool off within the
script.

Dennis



Charu Joshi wrote:
 
 Dear Listers,
 
 Given below is a script that I execute from within SQL*Plus for WinNT:
 
 temp.sql:
 -
 set echo off
 set pagesize 0
 set feedback off
 SELECT * FROM tab WHERE ROWNUM  10;
 set pagesize 1000
 set feedback on
 set echo on
 -
 
 While running it always displays 'SQLset echo off' before muffling the
 echo. Is there any way to stop this line from appearing?
 
 I vaguely remember that in some language you could put @ in front of the
 'set echo off' command to suppress it. Is there something similar possible.
 
 TIA.
 
 Regards,
 Charu.
 
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 the firewall should use sqlnet proxy.  most firewalls support it and if this
 one doesn't scrap it!  only the initial connection is made on port 1521.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 05:44AM 
 we had the same problem and we found that oracle use the standard port only
 to make the initial connection. All the traffic after that is done on
 different ports. So you need to open the range that oracle use in the
 firewall.
 
 Yechiel Adar
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  Environment:
 Oracle 8.1.6
 AIX server behind a firewall
 db is accessed by a Windows application running on a IIS web server
  sitting outside the firewall
 db uses port 1521
 
 
  After a flurry of email between the Unix admin and the 4 software vendors
  concerned, all the fingers are now pointing at that damn oracle
  database.  The Unix admin is asking two questions:
 
  1) what Oracle is doing with the four ports 20,000 - 20,003
  2) can he shut them down?
 
 
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Trivia question - not of any practical use.

2002-10-24 Thread Charu Joshi
Dear Listers,

Given below is a script that I execute from within SQL*Plus for WinNT:

temp.sql:
-
set echo off
set pagesize 0
set feedback off
SELECT * FROM tab WHERE ROWNUM  10;
set pagesize 1000
set feedback on
set echo on
-

While running it always displays 'SQLset echo off' before muffling the
echo. Is there any way to stop this line from appearing?

I vaguely remember that in some language you could put @ in front of the
'set echo off' command to suppress it. Is there something similar possible.

TIA.

Regards,
Charu.

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the firewall should use sqlnet proxy.  most firewalls support it and if this
one doesn't scrap it!  only the initial connection is made on port 1521.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 05:44AM 
we had the same problem and we found that oracle use the standard port only
to make the initial connection. All the traffic after that is done on
different ports. So you need to open the range that oracle use in the
firewall.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Environment:
Oracle 8.1.6
AIX server behind a firewall
db is accessed by a Windows application running on a IIS web server
 sitting outside the firewall
db uses port 1521


 After a flurry of email between the Unix admin and the 4 software vendors
 concerned, all the fingers are now pointing at that damn oracle
 database.  The Unix admin is asking two questions:

 1) what Oracle is doing with the four ports 20,000 - 20,003
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Oracle Performance Tuning (Book)

2002-10-24 Thread mkb
Any follks have reviews on the book Oracle Performance
Tuning written by Edward Whalen  Mitchell Schroter
and published by Addison-Wesley?

Saw a blurb in the recent issue of Ora Mag.

Thanks

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RE: Oracle Real Application Clusters

2002-10-24 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Oracle Real Application Clusters





We had the user which owns oracle was nfs mounted across two machines using nfs. i.e. user oraclei home directory was nfs mounted across tow machines. When we used srvctl to start instances occasionally it used to hang when bringing up the 'other side'. Also when nfs had the problem, it would crash.

Our Unix guys fixed the problem (I don't know how) and ORacle is looking into the problem.
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RE: Activating batch file from a trigger on nt

2002-10-24 Thread Fink, Dan
Could you use an external procedure or java call? Metalink  Tom Kyte's book
have good examples.

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Hello all

How can I run startup.bat file when database is up.
I tried using the HOST command in trigger but it does not work.
Something like: 'host d:\oracle\scripts\startup.bat' in the trigger.

Win2000, Oracle 8.1.7 or 9.2.0.

Yechiel Adar
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Re: Theory v Practice - and business logic...

2002-10-24 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
To me this comes under the heading of common sense.

My $0.02 worth,

Ken Janusz, CPIM

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As this topic just hits my hot button, I'm going to chime in my 2 cents
worth in as well. This in spite of the fact that you have already gotten
some great responses.

I come from an environment where we have distributed data all over creation.
IMS, DB2, Oracle, you name it we have it popping up everywhere. When a new
project pops up, guess what the first question is: Does the source of record
that we need for this application already exist somewhere?

Now, if it does, I've got a HUGE problem if I am not enforcing the RI on
this source data, particularly if this new application is going to be
manipulating it somehow. Then, as others have mentioned, there are the
power users who figure out ODBC and access or Excel.. God help you when
they get busy.

Another issue with regards to FK/PK's is the use of some Oracle features,
such as query rewrite and MViews, which require these structures to be used.
While you may not plan on using those features now, there is no telling what
the future may hold.

Simply put, using defined Pk/FK is a best practice. If you have issues with
the validation of FK's (for example in a warehouse environment) then enable
them without validation.

This leads me to another related hot button topic, thats business logic. In
my mind (though I'm having a hard time selling it to apps) the business
logic belongs in the database. This for the very same reasons that FK/PK's
need to be in place, scalability. That way, when I have new applications
coming on line that need to interface with the data, the same business rules
are consistently followed.

Bottom line, one has to think about tomorrow when one designs, not just
today.

More to churn on,

Robert

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The developers working on our new VB app are also responsible for
setting up the Oracle DB behind it. The app is for an order
entry/despatch/warehouse system with 5 million customers and 1000
orders per day. We have nearly 400 tables. They are not planning on
using primary keys/secondary keys, as they say they will handle all the
constraints via VB.
I only have a theoretical knowledge of database design, which says this
is very wrong. Is the Oracle system being used as anything more than an
expensive file system? In real world scenarios, is this a common
practice?

Regards

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Re: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
now now, play nice!


--- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
 co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!
 
 And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
 hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it. 
 
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 MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)
 
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 Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
 That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
  Kevin,
   
  This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses?
 Can you
  also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for
 Perl
 to
  work with SNMP?
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  Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
 database
 state,
  name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
   
  #!/usr/local/bin/perl
   
  use BER;
   
  use SNMP_Session;
  use SNMP_util;
  use Getopt::Std;
   
  getopts(h:i:);
   
  my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
  @retvals);
  my $session;
   
  $host = $opt_h;
  $community = public;
  $db_index = $opt_i;
   
  # Database State
  $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
  #Database Name
  $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
'.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
  # Consistent Block Gets
  $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
  # System Block Gets
  $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
   
  my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
  
   
   
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  Thanks Dennis, Gary 
  
  I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no
 problem with
  that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea
 that I
  could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
 interface
  and if so how to accomplish that.
  
  I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it
 would be
  feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
  
  Raj 
  __ 
  Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc. 
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
  Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of
 ESPN
 Inc.
  
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! 
  
  
  -Original Message- 
  mailto:DWILLIAMS;LIFETOUCH.COM ] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  
  Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more
 knowledgeable 
  will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring
 tools on 
  the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches
 for you.
 
 1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps
 this 
  would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and
 then 
  based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
 2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 

  If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can
 give 
  away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If
 your 
  goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 
  
  
  Dennis Williams 
  DBA, 40%OCP 
  Lifetouch, Inc. 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com
  mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com   
  
  -Original Message- 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:39 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  
  
  Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB
 information
 rather
  
  than running queries against the db? 
  
  I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to
 do
 this 
  (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I
 would
 really
  
  appreciate that. 
  
  TIA 
  Raj 
  __ 
  Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc. 
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot 

Re: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
Where?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:44 PM


Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!

And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!

Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How
efficient of you.





-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,

 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl
to
 work with SNMP?
 John Kanagaraj
 Oracle Applications DBA
 DBSoft Inc
 (W): 408-970-7002

 What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life at the
end
 of your journey in this earth?

 ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of
my
 employer or clients **



  -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database
state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:

 #!/usr/local/bin/perl

 use BER;

 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;

 getopts(h:i:);

 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;

 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;

 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );




 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Thanks Dennis, Gary

 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.

 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ...

 Raj
 __
 Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc.
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN
Inc.

 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art!


 -Original Message-
 mailto:DWILLIAMS;LIFETOUCH.COM ]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you.

1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts.
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want.

 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2.


 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 40%OCP
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com
 mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com 

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:39 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information
rather

 than running queries against the db?

 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do
this
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would
really

 appreciate that.

 TIA
 Raj
 __
 Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc.
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN
Inc.


 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art!

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RE: DB monitoring using SNMP MIBs

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Lange
Raj;
  Here is a link to the SNMP Support Reference Guide that Ray talked about
for 8.1.7.   I am sure its probably somewhere on your Documentation CD for
your version.

http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/docs/oracle/server.817/em.817/a85249.pdf

All I did was search the web for Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide
Release 8.1.7 and I found a ton of links.

Kevin


Thanks Ray.

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,
  
 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl
to
 work with SNMP?
 John Kanagaraj
 Oracle Applications DBA
 DBSoft Inc
 (W): 408-970-7002
 
 What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life at the
end
 of your journey in this earth?
 
 ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of
my
 employer or clients **
 
 
  
  -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database
state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
  
 #!/usr/local/bin/perl
  
 use BER;
  
 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;
  
 getopts(h:i:);
  
 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;
  
 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;
  
 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
  
 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
 
  
  
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Thanks Dennis, Gary 
 
 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.
 
 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
 
 Raj 
 __ 
 Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc. 
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN
Inc.
 
 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 mailto:DWILLIAMS;LIFETOUCH.COM ] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable 
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on 
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you.

1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this 
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then 
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 
   
 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give 
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your 
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 
 
 
 Dennis Williams 
 DBA, 40%OCP 
 Lifetouch, Inc. 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com
 mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com   
 
 -Original Message- 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:39 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 
 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information
rather
 
 than running queries against the db? 
 
 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do
this 
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would
really
 
 appreciate that. 
 
 TIA 
 Raj 
 __ 
 Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc. 
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN
Inc.
 
 
 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! 
 
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RE: what is purify

2002-10-24 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom


but we 
did not download or install it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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think this is what they are talking about.RFRobert G. Freeman - 
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AdministrationAuthor of several Oracle books you can find on 
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package. Howefficient of you. -Original 
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Even if shutdown database, still at 100%. Must halt the servicefor it 
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problem - butdoesn't make sense since that service is always 
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Activating batch file from a trigger on nt

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello all

How can I run startup.bat file when database is up.
I tried using the HOST command in trigger but it does not work.
Something like: 'host d:\oracle\scripts\startup.bat' in the trigger.

Win2000, Oracle 8.1.7 or 9.2.0.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
Even more interesting is that I never saw the original comment from
Rachel... my email to/from Oracle-L seems to really be slow! Thanks Rachel.

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Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!

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-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:26 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Rachel,

Interesting, I never thought of it. I feel sorry for that if it is reducing 
royalty of Roberts, but my intention was different and  to help others to 
reduce their cost of this book. Besides I am very much satisfied with the 
services/prices of bookpool.com


Regards
Rafiq










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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:43:09 -0800

because the author's royalties are based in part on what the book sells
for?

just doing my part to keep Robert's kids fed :)


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 Our Price $30.95 ~ You Save $19.04 (38% Off)
 
  Regards
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  Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:48:55 -0800
 
  Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...
 
  Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
  Oracle Database Architect
  CSX Midtier Database Administration
  Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
 
  Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package.
  How
  efficient of you.
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:09 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Where?
 
  Yechiel Adar
  Mehish
  - Original Message -
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:44 PM
 
 
  Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
  co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!
 
  And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
  hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.
 
  RF
 
  Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
  Oracle Database Architect
  CSX Midtier Database Administration
  Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
 
  Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package.
  How
  efficient of you.
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:55 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
  Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
  That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
Kevin,
   
This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses?
  Can
  you
also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required
  for Perl
  to
work with SNMP?
John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002
   
What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life
  at the
  end
of your journey in this earth?
   
** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not
  those of
  my
employer or clients **
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
  database
  state,
name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
   
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
   
use BER;
   
use SNMP_Session;
use SNMP_util;
use Getopt::Std;
   
getopts(h:i:);
   
my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value,
  @oid,
@retvals);
my $session;
   
$host = $opt_h;
$community = public;
$db_index = $opt_i;
   
# Database State
$oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
#Database Name
$oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
  '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
# Consistent Block Gets
$oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
# System Block Gets
$oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
   
my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
   
   
   
   
-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
Thanks Dennis, Gary
   
I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no
  problem with
that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the
  idea that
  I
could get some information without running scripts 

simple ? question

2002-10-24 Thread Joan Hsieh
Hi Listers,

I am trying to find a way to know the schema name. Say, if I logged in
as jjin01@ngd.  When I run a program, how can I get the schema name
which should be ngd? If I logged in as bkrasnof@pr, in this case, the
schema name will be pr.

Thanks in advance,

Joan
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Re: Find Queries by a group of users

2002-10-24 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Johnson,

Auditing, atleast in 8i, wont help. Maybe, if its not an overhead, you
could have a logon trigger that enables tracing for those users.

Raj




   
 
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lets us know whether they ran a 'select' 'update' etc.
but not the full text of the query. This is in 8i.

9i seems to have a view called DBA_FGA_AUDIT_TRAIL
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RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!

And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it. 

RF

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CSX Midtier Database Administration
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MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)

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Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,
  
 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl
to
 work with SNMP?
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 DBSoft Inc
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database
state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
  
 #!/usr/local/bin/perl
  
 use BER;
  
 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;
  
 getopts(h:i:);
  
 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;
  
 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;
  
 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
  
 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
 
  
  
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Thanks Dennis, Gary 
 
 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.
 
 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ... 
 
 Raj 
 __ 
 Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc. 
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN
Inc.
 
 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 mailto:DWILLIAMS;LIFETOUCH.COM ] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable 
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on 
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you.

1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this 
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then 
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts. 
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want. 
   
 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give 
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your 
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2. 
 
 
 Dennis Williams 
 DBA, 40%OCP 
 Lifetouch, Inc. 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com
 mailto:dwilliams;lifetouch.com   
 
 -Original Message- 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:39 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 
 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information
rather
 
 than running queries against the db? 
 
 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do
this 
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the right direction, I would
really
 
 appreciate that. 
 
 TIA 
 Raj 
 __ 
 Rajendra Jamadagni  MIS, ESPN Inc. 
 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
 Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN
Inc.
 
 
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Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris
Title: Flat file generation integrity ideas...






I have to create packages that will generate several flat files of data from tables that will be sent to other systems to be processed.

I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data integrity in the flat files.


For example, the expected record count is stored on the first line of the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was received.

The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat files are correctly FTPed between systems, so that's covered.


I just worry that if somehow a flat file is scrambled then the scrambled data is loaded into the database, therefore corrupting it.

At this phase, XML is not an option 


I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be stored with each line in the flat file. And then before the line is loaded into the database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the just read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any examples out there?

Many TIA!!





Re: Activating batch file from a trigger on nt

2002-10-24 Thread Yechiel Adar
I solved the problem by:

Call a Java function that sends the command to a service that activate the
command as a process in NT.
This was written by another of my team and can send the command to any
computer on the NT network.

I think that Joe asked about open window when applying archive logs to a
standby database.
Maybe this method can work for you.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Could you use an external procedure or java call? Metalink  Tom Kyte's
book
 have good examples.

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 Hello all

 How can I run startup.bat file when database is up.
 I tried using the HOST command in trigger but it does not work.
 Something like: 'host d:\oracle\scripts\startup.bat' in the trigger.

 Win2000, Oracle 8.1.7 or 9.2.0.

 Yechiel Adar
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db_writer_processes/db_block_lru_latches

2002-10-24 Thread Ray Stell
I read in Note:97291.1 that db_writer_processes/db_block_lru_latches
could be set to match the number of cpus to try to impove db file
parallel write waits.   Are seperate controllers required for this to
be effective?  Any good refs on this topic. 
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Re: Trivia question - not of any practical use.

2002-10-24 Thread Marc Perkowitz
I don't get that when running on W2K.  Are you executing a login.sql or
glogin.sql script first?  How are you invoking your temp.sql?  Using the @
on the command line or redirecting input or typing it in directly?

What version of sqlplus?  I tried it with 8.1.6.

Marc Perkowitz

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 Dear Listers,

 Given below is a script that I execute from within SQL*Plus for WinNT:

 temp.sql:
 -
 set echo off
 set pagesize 0
 set feedback off
 SELECT * FROM tab WHERE ROWNUM  10;
 set pagesize 1000
 set feedback on
 set echo on
 -

 While running it always displays 'SQLset echo off' before muffling the
 echo. Is there any way to stop this line from appearing?

 I vaguely remember that in some language you could put @ in front of the
 'set echo off' command to suppress it. Is there something similar
possible.

 TIA.

 Regards,
 Charu.

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 the firewall should use sqlnet proxy.  most firewalls support it and if
this
 one doesn't scrap it!  only the initial connection is made on port 1521.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 05:44AM 
 we had the same problem and we found that oracle use the standard port
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 to make the initial connection. All the traffic after that is done on
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  Environment:
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 db is accessed by a Windows application running on a IIS web server
  sitting outside the firewall
 db uses port 1521
 
 
  After a flurry of email between the Unix admin and the 4 software
vendors
  concerned, all the fingers are now pointing at that damn oracle
  database.  The Unix admin is asking two questions:
 
  1) what Oracle is doing with the four ports 20,000 - 20,003
  2) can he shut them down?
 
 
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PDBA toolkit (from Perl for Oracle DBAs) question

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Maybe someone beside the author can answer this question:

I'm confused about how to connect to a database using Jared's PDBA
toolkit.  The various utilities specify command-line options -machine
and -database.  There's a PDBA::CM connection manager module that can
be used to specify environment variables such as ORACLE_HOME.  But
nowhere do I see how to use a SQL*Net connect string:  I have PDBA
installed on my PC, and I want to connect to databases on Unix servers;
the service name resolution is provided by Oracle Names.  What am I
missing?

Thanks,

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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Rachel Carmichael
because the author's royalties are based in part on what the book sells
for?

just doing my part to keep Robert's kids fed :)


--- Mohammad Rafiq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why pay more, Try www.bookpool.com
 
 
 Oracle9i RMAN Backup  Recovery
Freeman, et al / McGraw Hill / 2002 / 0072226625
Our Price $30.95 ~ You Save $19.04 (38% Off)
 
 Regards
 Rafiq
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...
 
 Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
 Oracle Database Architect
 CSX Midtier Database Administration
 Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
 
 Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package.
 How
 efficient of you.
 
  
 
 
 
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 Where?
 
 Yechiel Adar
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 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:44 PM
 
 
 Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
 co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!
 
 And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
 hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.
 
 RF
 
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 CSX Midtier Database Administration
 Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com!
 
 Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package.
 How
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 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:55 AM
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 MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
 That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.
 
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
   Kevin,
  
   This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses?
 Can 
 you
   also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required
 for Perl
 to
   work with SNMP?
   John Kanagaraj
   Oracle Applications DBA
   DBSoft Inc
   (W): 408-970-7002
  
   What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life
 at the
 end
   of your journey in this earth?
  
   ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not
 those of
 my
   employer or clients **
  
  
  
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   Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:54 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
   Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the
 database
 state,
   name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:
  
   #!/usr/local/bin/perl
  
   use BER;
  
   use SNMP_Session;
   use SNMP_util;
   use Getopt::Std;
  
   getopts(h:i:);
  
   my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value,
 @oid,
   @retvals);
   my $session;
  
   $host = $opt_h;
   $community = public;
   $db_index = $opt_i;
  
   # Database State
   $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
   #Database Name
   $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
 '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
   # Consistent Block Gets
   $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
   # System Block Gets
   $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;
  
   my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );
  
  
  
  
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   Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:20 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
   Thanks Dennis, Gary
  
   I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no
 problem with
   that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the
 idea that 
 I
   could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
 interface
   and if so how to accomplish that.
  
   I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it
 would be
   feasible to do it be some scripting ...
  
   Raj
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   Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
   Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of
 ESPN
 Inc.
  
   QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art!
  
  
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   Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:04 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more
 knowledgeable
   will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring
 tools 
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Re: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE

2002-10-24 Thread Rachna Vaidya
Why do you always SHOUT in your subject line?
Or are you not aware of simple net-etiquettes?

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 Hi
 I am thinking to change our few dictinary manages tablespace to locally
 managed tablespace.Can any one experienced any issues with locally managed
 tablespace?
 Do any one experience what gain after changing to locally managed
 tablespace?

 Thx
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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris
Title: Message



Yes, 
Melissa also mentioned this to me. I will have to look into that 
function...along withthe million other procedures and functions that 
Oracle has. At this point, Tom's suggestion seems to be the 
simpliest/effective/fastest. Any other suggestions?

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
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  October 24, 2002 2:46 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Flat file generation integrity 
  ideas...
  you could also use dbms_utility.get_hash_value ... to compute 
  hash value for the whole row and store that as an additional column. Be syre 
  to use the same parameters on both sides to compute and test, else it will 
  fail the check.
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RE: System Tablespace and Autoextend

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
I run my SYSTEM tablesaces in autoextend, and have for some time. I run them
that way from the point of database creation and have never had a problem.
There were some problems with autoextend in earlier versions of 8 (and I
think they managed to migrate to early 8i versions as well) with 2GB
boundaries, but those have all been corrected.

RF

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Sam - 
   I haven't made the system tablespace autoextend because I can't easily
recover the space if it overextends. I would rather take the risk that
something hits an error from a lack of space in the system tablespace. With
other tablespaces you can always rebuild the tablespace if you need to.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hello All,

I have heard several times that if the SYSTEM tablespace runs out of space
and needs to autoextend (assuming autoextend is turned on for the data
file), then you run the risk of the database crashing and of data dictionary
corruption.  I have never personally encountered this problem, so I have no
experience on what actually does happen.

I looked in metalink for documents on this, but turned up nothing.  Does
anybody have experience on the dangers of allowing the SYSTEM tablespace to
autoextend and also any documents on Metalink or OTN that describe this
problem? 

We are running Oracle versions 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.7, and 9.2.  All our Oracle
versions are running on Windows NT (or Windows 2000).

Thanks for any feedback.

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System Tablespace and Autoextend

2002-10-24 Thread Sam Bootsma
Hello All,

I have heard several times that if the SYSTEM tablespace runs out of space
and needs to autoextend (assuming autoextend is turned on for the data
file), then you run the risk of the database crashing and of data dictionary
corruption.  I have never personally encountered this problem, so I have no
experience on what actually does happen.

I looked in metalink for documents on this, but turned up nothing.  Does
anybody have experience on the dangers of allowing the SYSTEM tablespace to
autoextend and also any documents on Metalink or OTN that describe this
problem? 

We are running Oracle versions 7.3.4, 8.0.5, 8.1.7, and 9.2.  All our Oracle
versions are running on Windows NT (or Windows 2000).

Thanks for any feedback.

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RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...

2002-10-24 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Flat file generation integrity ideas...





you could also use dbms_utility.get_hash_value ... to compute hash value for the whole row and store that as an additional column. Be syre to use the same parameters on both sides to compute and test, else it will fail the check.

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RE: QUERY?

2002-10-24 Thread Sandeep Dubey
Hi,

What error are you getting? Just saying 'not running in production' doesn't give any 
clue to answer.

Regards,

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Hi
Can some one suggest whats wrong in this query?The same query run fine on 
development db but not running on production?
select count(a.xxx_id)
from   gorp_cats_stats_view a ,
static_pages b
where  b.xxx_id = a.xxx_id
andb.words like '%test%'
anda.main not like '%test%'
anda.url not like '%test%'

order by a.url

Thx
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RE: QUERY?

2002-10-24 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Different data?  Missing indexes?

What do you mean Something's Wrong?

Tom Mercadante
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Hi
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from   gorp_cats_stats_view a ,
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where  b.xxx_id = a.xxx_id
andb.words like '%test%'
anda.main not like '%test%'
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RE: RMAN - It's Here

2002-10-24 Thread Freeman, Robert
Amazon.com, Oraclepressbooks.com, etc...

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Where?

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Just a note that my new book Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (with
co-author Matthew Hart) is out now! Enjoy!

And remember, if you like it, I wrote it. If you don't like it..
hm let's see then Tim Gorman wrote it.

RF

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MIB, hey I saw that movie too.  ;o)

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Oracle SNMP Support Reference Guide has the MIBs documented.
That can be found under the Oracle Enterprise Manager docs.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:19:22PM -0800, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Kevin,

 This is great! Can we get a list of all the OIDs that Oracle uses? Can you
 also let the group know if any additional plug-ins are required for Perl
to
 work with SNMP?
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 Yes.  You can use PERL to do such things such as getting the database
state,
 name, consistent gets, system block gets, etc from SNMP:

 #!/usr/local/bin/perl

 use BER;

 use SNMP_Session;
 use SNMP_util;
 use Getopt::Std;

 getopts(h:i:);

 my($host, $community, $response, $bindings, $binding, $value, @oid,
 @retvals);
 my $session;

 $host = $opt_h;
 $community = public;
 $db_index = $opt_i;

 # Database State
 $oid[0] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.9.1.1.2.2';
 #Database Name
 $oid[1] = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.39.1.7.1.4.' . $db_index .
   '.7.100.98.95.110.97.109.101.1';
 # Consistent Block Gets
 $oid[2] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.2.' . $db_index;
 # System Block Gets
 $oid[3] = 'enterprises.111.4.1.1.1.4.' . $db_index;

 my @retvals = SNMP_util::snmpget ( $host, @oid );




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 Thanks Dennis, Gary

 I have tools at my disposal to monitor the db, and I have no problem with
 that. I was just reading through snmp and was intrigues by the idea that I
 could get some information without running scripts through sqlplus
interface
 and if so how to accomplish that.

 I know it is doable because IA does that, just wondering if it would be
 feasible to do it be some scripting ...

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 Raj - I'm no expert on SNMP, so maybe someone that is more knowledgeable
 will reply. I believe that SNMP underlies most of the monitoring tools on
 the market today. OEM may even use SNMP. I can see two approaches for you.

1. You write your own tool that will issue SNMP alerts. Perhaps this
 would be a Unix daemon process that executes database queries, and then
 based on what it finds, issues SNMP alerts.
2. Use an existing tool to accomplish what you want.

 If your desire is to create a database monitoring tool that you can give
 away for free, then sell to CA for a lot of money, take path #1. If your
 goal is to become a better DBA, then I would go with #2.


 Dennis Williams
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 Lifetouch, Inc.
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 Has anyone implemented basic DB monitoring using snmp MIB information
rather

 than running queries against the db?

 I am looking into this and have no clue or available docs on how to do
this
 (esp on AIX). If someone can point me to the 

Re:RE: oracle or mssql

2002-10-24 Thread dgoulet
As I said, use mssql ONLY if your boss is willing to be strapped into a
MicroSlop only platform.  If he's even remotely thinking of using a different OS
then you can't use mssql.

Dick Goulet

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goodmorning
everybody who responded to my basic question : thanks

summary

professional : use oracle enterprise edition
semi professional : use oracle standard edition / mssql enterprise edition
in all other cases mssql standard edition



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 XENIX maybe.
 
 : )
 
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RE: secure connection

2002-10-24 Thread MURAT BALKAS

Sorry for the mistake. the question was wrong. :(

The right question should be :

How can I secure the connection between our web server and Oracle Server?
Is there any chance to solve this issue with Oracle related solutions or
should I use IPsec or smth like that about network security.

Murat



   

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Hire a special company that handle this.
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   how can I be sure that the connection between our web server and
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   Any good links for Oracle Nwtwork Security.

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RE: secure connection

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