Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Can T. Oguz
Thanks everybody. I'm so glad that you've shared a couple of minutes to
guide me. As an IDE addict (MSVC), I'm right about to make some tough
decisions such as moving on to Linux. I was thinking of Eclipse CDT but now
I think I'm going to end up with the good old command line.

Regards,

Can

2008/11/29 Mattias Helsing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi all,

 I use Ubuntu x86 (intrepid since a week) on an ancient laptop (dell
 with ATI's x600 which crashed and burned in Robert's memory test). I
 edit source in emacs and use it's gdb-mode for debugging. I have tried
 Eclipse with some success, though it's antispeed makes me wanna throw
 my laptop at some of the hardest materials in existence.

 I immediately starred this thread. Incredibly interesting stuff and
 I've tried out both meld and cscope and they work very nice. Thank
 you!

 At work I'm forced by my company's customers to work on WinXP with
 MSVC (7.1,8.0 and soon 9.0). I've recently had some success with
 convincing the right people that linux is the future (paradoxically
 thanks to MS design decisions in Vista). However theres still a long
 way to go.

 I find it interesting that so many of you/us still use historic
 editors like emacs and vi(m) and as much as I would love Joe shmoe
 the windows programmer to take on learning emacs is as much as I
 believe that he will require an IDE like Visual studio and it's
 indexer and debugger.

 (please dont' flame me about the emacs friendliness. If my thesis
 supervisor had been a vi'er I'm sure I would be to ;)

 Mattias
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Ulrich Hertlein

Hi Can,

On 30/11/08 9:59 PM, Can T. Oguz wrote:

Thanks everybody. I'm so glad that you've shared a couple of minutes to guide 
me. As an
IDE addict (MSVC), I'm right about to make some tough decisions such as moving 
on to
Linux. I was thinking of Eclipse CDT but now I think I'm going to end up with 
the good
old command line. Regards, Can


Don't discount Linux IDEs straight away.  Sometimes you just stick with what you know for 
lack of incentive or time (and it definitively takes time to evaluate another editor or a 
full-fledged IDE).


Although I'm one of the vim/gdb/cmdline crowd I sometimes wish that something like MSVC 
was available for Linux; IMHO it's the only Microsoft product they got right and that I 
would consider taking to a deserted island (but apparently it's the managed languages 
where it really shines).


Cheers,
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Mattias Helsing
Hi Can,

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Can T. Oguz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks everybody. I'm so glad that you've shared a couple of minutes to
 guide me. As an IDE addict (MSVC), I'm right about to make some tough
 decisions such as moving on to Linux. I was thinking of Eclipse CDT but now
 I think I'm going to end up with the good old command line.


I like MSVS very much. IMHO probably the best sw that ever came out of
Redmond. And Joe the windows programmer is me. I just happen to like
emacs. I'll continue using and keeping up with Eclipse and KDevelop
solely because 'm hoping that some day I'll have work colleagues
developing on Linux and they may be more comfortable using an IDE or
it may be a good transition tool. We'll see.

Remember that I'm on old hardware (2Gb ram though) and am using the
Eclipse CDT that comes packaged for Ubuntu (Eclipse SDK 3.2.2 and CDT
3.2.1.).

cheers
Mattias
 Regards,

 Can

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Mathieu MARACHE
Hi Mattias

2008/11/30 Mattias Helsing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Can,

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Can T. Oguz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks everybody. I'm so glad that you've shared a couple of minutes to
 guide me. As an IDE addict (MSVC), I'm right about to make some tough
 decisions such as moving on to Linux. I was thinking of Eclipse CDT but now
 I think I'm going to end up with the good old command line.


 I like MSVS very much. IMHO probably the best sw that ever came out of
 Redmond. And Joe the windows programmer is me. I just happen to like
 emacs. I'll continue using and keeping up with Eclipse and KDevelop
 solely because 'm hoping that some day I'll have work colleagues
 developing on Linux and they may be more comfortable using an IDE or
 it may be a good transition tool. We'll see.

 Remember that I'm on old hardware (2Gb ram though) and am using the
 Eclipse CDT that comes packaged for Ubuntu (Eclipse SDK 3.2.2 and CDT
 3.2.1.).

You should definetly download eclipse 3.3 with CDT 4, there is a huge
difference in code completion response time with CDT 4. It comes in
one package that works well in user space...

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Can T. Oguz
Hi,

Sure I'll try if I can get a grip on Eclipse.

Regards,

Can

2008/11/30 Mattias Helsing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Can,

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Can T. Oguz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks everybody. I'm so glad that you've shared a couple of minutes to
  guide me. As an IDE addict (MSVC), I'm right about to make some tough
  decisions such as moving on to Linux. I was thinking of Eclipse CDT but
 now
  I think I'm going to end up with the good old command line.
 

 I like MSVS very much. IMHO probably the best sw that ever came out of
 Redmond. And Joe the windows programmer is me. I just happen to like
 emacs. I'll continue using and keeping up with Eclipse and KDevelop
 solely because 'm hoping that some day I'll have work colleagues
 developing on Linux and they may be more comfortable using an IDE or
 it may be a good transition tool. We'll see.

 Remember that I'm on old hardware (2Gb ram though) and am using the
 Eclipse CDT that comes packaged for Ubuntu (Eclipse SDK 3.2.2 and CDT
 3.2.1.).

 cheers
 Mattias
  Regards,
 
  Can
  
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Alejandro Segovia
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Can T. Oguz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sure I'll try if I can get a grip on Eclipse.


Hi Can,

You can also try NetBeans, which added support for C/C++ a couple of
versions ago. I found it easier to use than Eclipse with CDT and you can
also just download the C++ 'spin', without having to get all the Java stuff.

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-30 Thread Can T. Oguz
Thanks Alejandro,

I'll give it a try; I need to look around and make my way through now, so
every suggestion is important to me.

Regards,

Can




2008/11/30 Alejandro Segovia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Can T. Oguz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sure I'll try if I can get a grip on Eclipse.


 Hi Can,

 You can also try NetBeans, which added support for C/C++ a couple of
 versions ago. I found it easier to use than Eclipse with CDT and you can
 also just download the C++ 'spin', without having to get all the Java stuff.

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-29 Thread Mattias Helsing
Hi all,

I use Ubuntu x86 (intrepid since a week) on an ancient laptop (dell
with ATI's x600 which crashed and burned in Robert's memory test). I
edit source in emacs and use it's gdb-mode for debugging. I have tried
Eclipse with some success, though it's antispeed makes me wanna throw
my laptop at some of the hardest materials in existence.

I immediately starred this thread. Incredibly interesting stuff and
I've tried out both meld and cscope and they work very nice. Thank
you!

At work I'm forced by my company's customers to work on WinXP with
MSVC (7.1,8.0 and soon 9.0). I've recently had some success with
convincing the right people that linux is the future (paradoxically
thanks to MS design decisions in Vista). However theres still a long
way to go.

I find it interesting that so many of you/us still use historic
editors like emacs and vi(m) and as much as I would love Joe shmoe
the windows programmer to take on learning emacs is as much as I
believe that he will require an IDE like Visual studio and it's
indexer and debugger.

(please dont' flame me about the emacs friendliness. If my thesis
supervisor had been a vi'er I'm sure I would be to ;)

Mattias
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-27 Thread J.P. Delport

Hi,

Mathieu MARACHE wrote:

Hi

Ubuntu 8.10 x86 and x86_64
I edit mostly with vim and use eclipse ganymede CDT, codeblocks or
KDevelop as IDEs (thanks to CMake)
I diff graphically with meld ( http://meld.sourceforge.net for
screenshots, try it and forget xxdiff :-) )
I checkout with git-svn


P.S. thanks JP for the cscope hint, you learn every day :-)


cscope integrates nicely with emacs ;)

Do you know if meld can integrate nicely with svn? E.g. I can do

svn diff
svn merge

on command line and then it brings up xxdiff. Can meld do this (be an 
diff app for svn)? If it can I will definitely try.


jp



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2008/11/26 Bob Huebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Fedora Core 7 x86_64 with gcc 4.1.2

Sun box with AMD Opteron P250, 4GB

nVidia QuadroFX 3000 (agp 8x) with 256MB

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Can T. Oguz wrote:

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Thank you for your time,

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-27 Thread J.P. Delport

Hi,

Paul Melis wrote:

J.P. Delport wrote:

Hi,

Mathieu MARACHE wrote:

Do you know if meld can integrate nicely with svn? E.g. I can do

svn diff
svn merge

on command line and then it brings up xxdiff. Can meld do this (be an 
diff app for svn)? If it can I will definitely try.
There does seem to be the environment variable SVN_MERGE that subversion 
looks at, but I'm not sure if that one has only been introduced in a 
very recent subversion release.


I usually set diff-cmd and diff3-cmd in  ~/.subversion/config
to xx-diff-proxy. I was wondering if meld had something similar?

jp



Regards,
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-27 Thread Gerwin de Haan
Ubuntu Hardy, g++/python , Visual Slickedit (commercial, but a really
powerful and fast IDE)

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Can T. Oguz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-27 Thread Paul Melis

J.P. Delport wrote:

Hi,

Mathieu MARACHE wrote:

Do you know if meld can integrate nicely with svn? E.g. I can do

svn diff
svn merge

on command line and then it brings up xxdiff. Can meld do this (be an 
diff app for svn)? If it can I will definitely try.
There does seem to be the environment variable SVN_MERGE that subversion 
looks at, but I'm not sure if that one has only been introduced in a 
very recent subversion release.


Regards,
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-27 Thread Mathieu MARACHE
Hi jp,

Sorry didn't see this earlier. Yes you can use meld within svn,
provided you use a script like described here :
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.advanced.externaldifftools.html

here is the script I reproduced from here :
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.meld.general/362

 Start: svn-diff-meld
#!/bin/sh
# SVN Diff Wrapper for Meld
# KOG 2008-02

left=$6
right=$7

meld $left $right
 End: svn-diff-meld

Then adapting it to diff3

 Start: svn-diff3-meld
#!/bin/sh
# SVN Diff3 Wrapper for Meld

mine=$9
older=$10
yours=$11

meld $mine $older $yours
 End: svn-diff3-meld

then modifying your ~/.subversion/config with these values should do the trick

[helpers]
diff-cmd = ABSOLUTE_PATH_TO/svn-diff-meld
diff3-cmd = ABSOLUTE_PATH_TO/svn-diff3-meld
diff3-has-program-arg = false



HTH

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2008/11/27 J.P. Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Paul Melis wrote:

 J.P. Delport wrote:

 Hi,

 Mathieu MARACHE wrote:

 Do you know if meld can integrate nicely with svn? E.g. I can do

 svn diff
 svn merge

 on command line and then it brings up xxdiff. Can meld do this (be an
 diff app for svn)? If it can I will definitely try.

 There does seem to be the environment variable SVN_MERGE that subversion
 looks at, but I'm not sure if that one has only been introduced in a very
 recent subversion release.

 I usually set diff-cmd and diff3-cmd in  ~/.subversion/config
 to xx-diff-proxy. I was wondering if meld had something similar?

 jp


 Regards,
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-27 Thread J.P. Delport

thanks Mathieu

jp

Mathieu MARACHE wrote:

Hi jp,

Sorry didn't see this earlier. Yes you can use meld within svn,
provided you use a script like described here :
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.advanced.externaldifftools.html

here is the script I reproduced from here :
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.meld.general/362

 Start: svn-diff-meld
#!/bin/sh
# SVN Diff Wrapper for Meld
# KOG 2008-02

left=$6
right=$7

meld $left $right
 End: svn-diff-meld

Then adapting it to diff3

 Start: svn-diff3-meld
#!/bin/sh
# SVN Diff3 Wrapper for Meld

mine=$9
older=$10
yours=$11

meld $mine $older $yours
 End: svn-diff3-meld

then modifying your ~/.subversion/config with these values should do the trick

[helpers]
diff-cmd = ABSOLUTE_PATH_TO/svn-diff-meld
diff3-cmd = ABSOLUTE_PATH_TO/svn-diff3-meld
diff3-has-program-arg = false



HTH

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2008/11/27 J.P. Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi,

Paul Melis wrote:

J.P. Delport wrote:

Hi,

Mathieu MARACHE wrote:

Do you know if meld can integrate nicely with svn? E.g. I can do

svn diff
svn merge

on command line and then it brings up xxdiff. Can meld do this (be an
diff app for svn)? If it can I will definitely try.

There does seem to be the environment variable SVN_MERGE that subversion
looks at, but I'm not sure if that one has only been introduced in a very
recent subversion release.

I usually set diff-cmd and diff3-cmd in  ~/.subversion/config
to xx-diff-proxy. I was wondering if meld had something similar?

jp


Regards,
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Alejandro Segovia
 Dear OSG Users,

 
  May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you chose
 to
  work on ?
 


Hi,

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Melis

Can T. Oguz wrote:
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Gentoo Linux + GCC + the SciTE text editor

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
Hi,

Debian Sid, emacs, g++.

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Svanur Palsson

CentOS + Fedora

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Cedric Pinson

Gentoo + emacs + gdb

Cheers,
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Pierre Bourdin (gmail)
Debian lenny/sid
vim  g++
Kdevelop 

Regards, 

Pierre.

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Osfield
Kubuntu 7.04, 7.10 and 8.10.

Used to use Suse but got lured by the sanity of debain packaging/repositories.

Use nedit for editing, gdb for debugging when the need arises, xxdiff
for graphical diff, cmake for build.

Used to use IDE's, but got fed up with them - VS6 and Sgi's CaseVision
saw to that.  Occasionally dabble in others to see what the state of
art is but still got back to just a console, and editor and gdb...
it's where I'm most productive.

Robert.
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread J.P. Delport

Hi,

Can T. Oguz wrote:

Dear OSG Users,
 
May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you chose 
to work on ?


Debian Sid, emacs, cscope, xxdiff.

Sometimes KDevelop as a front-end for valgrind/callgrind.

jp

 
Thank you for your time,
 
Can





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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Ümit Uzun
Hi Can,

Ubuntu 8.04 Notepad++ gcc || g++

Regards

2008/11/26 Pierre Bourdin (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Debian lenny/sid
 vim  g++
 Kdevelop

 Regards,

 Pierre.

 Le mercredi 26 novembre 2008 à 14:36 +0200, Can T. Oguz a écrit :

 Dear OSG Users,



  May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you chose
 to work on ?



  Thank you for your time,



  Can

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Melis

Can T. Oguz wrote:
May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you 
chose to work on ?

Hehe, the answers are all over the place :)

Paul
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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Jason Daly

Can T. Oguz wrote:

Dear OSG Users,
 
May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you 
chose to work on ?


Red Hat Enterprise 5 Linux at work Fedora 9 at home.  I use Windows when 
I'm forced to, but I still do the development on Linux.


Vi for editing (including on Windows), SCons for building.  Xxdiff is a 
great graphical diff tool.  Winmerge is the closest thing I've found on 
Windows.


I agree with Robert on the raw productivity that the good old fashioned 
command line can give you.  Most of the time IDE's just get in my way.  
I used to use Visual Studio when I had to build stuff on Windows, but 
now SCons lets me avoid that.


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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Don Leich

We have a mix of SuSE and Fedora of various vintages.
I use vim mostly, emacs sometimes; g++; gbd or Totalview (good multi-thread 
support) for debugging.


-Don


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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Bob Huebert


Fedora Core 7 x86_64 with gcc 4.1.2

Sun box with AMD Opteron P250, 4GB

nVidia QuadroFX 3000 (agp 8x) with 256MB

-bob

Can T. Oguz wrote:

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Thank you for your time,

Can


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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Mathieu MARACHE
Hi

Ubuntu 8.10 x86 and x86_64
I edit mostly with vim and use eclipse ganymede CDT, codeblocks or
KDevelop as IDEs (thanks to CMake)
I diff graphically with meld ( http://meld.sourceforge.net for
screenshots, try it and forget xxdiff :-) )
I checkout with git-svn


P.S. thanks JP for the cscope hint, you learn every day :-)
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2008/11/26 Bob Huebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Fedora Core 7 x86_64 with gcc 4.1.2

 Sun box with AMD Opteron P250, 4GB

 nVidia QuadroFX 3000 (agp 8x) with 256MB

 -bob

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 Dear OSG Users,

 May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you
 chose to work on ?

 Thank you for your time,

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Fábio Mierlo
I use GoboLinux in the server and desktop environment
for a while.

To develop, a use GNU tools and Vim with a long .vimrc.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Mathieu MARACHE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 Ubuntu 8.10 x86 and x86_64
 I edit mostly with vim and use eclipse ganymede CDT, codeblocks or
 KDevelop as IDEs (thanks to CMake)
 I diff graphically with meld ( http://meld.sourceforge.net for
 screenshots, try it and forget xxdiff :-) )
 I checkout with git-svn


 P.S. thanks JP for the cscope hint, you learn every day :-)
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 2008/11/26 Bob Huebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Fedora Core 7 x86_64 with gcc 4.1.2

 Sun box with AMD Opteron P250, 4GB

 nVidia QuadroFX 3000 (agp 8x) with 256MB

 -bob

 Can T. Oguz wrote:

 Dear OSG Users,

 May I Ask which linux distribution and development environment you
 chose to work on ?

 Thank you for your time,

 Can
 

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Re: [osg-users] Linux Dev. Env. Poll

2008-11-26 Thread Ahmed Nawar

Hi

   Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron  and  Redhat EL 5
   Eclipse CDT and NetBeans
   qt GUI with qmake for make files

Thanks,
Ahmed Nawar



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