[OSList] OSLIST is MOVING to every...@oslist.org!!!!

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi All,

Announcing a new home for the OSList!!!

https://oslist.org
Send email to every...@oslist.org

BENEFITS:
- An updated user interface if you want to manage your subscription
- Proper SSL (https) URL's for more safety
- Major upgrade from GNU Mailman 2 to Mailman 3
- Get past all the current bouncing because of the bad reputation for 
the out of date lists.openspacetech.org.

- Restore the current disabled GMail accounts

I'm migrating the current non-digest members who should all get a 
welcome message. I need to fix up the list of subscribers who get 
digests, but I see no way to set them to keep getting digests. I'm 
hoping you'll all be willing to change that yourselves - SORRY IN 
ADVANCE I'll send instructions once I have everyone migrated.


APOLOGIES FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE OR TURBULENCE

There almost certainly will be glitches during this transition. If you 
send any further emails to old address (oslist@lists.openspacetech.org), 
they will go through for at least a few more days but they won't get 
properly archived. We will try to bring our 26 years of archives to the 
new location. There is a risk some of that will break - but we still 
have some solid searchable archives that maybe we'll have to search 
separately.


Thanks for all your patience. Please let me know your concerns, or 
issues, but hopefully not everyone all at the same time. Please give me 
a few days to respond.


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Re: [OSList] Fwd: confirm b231987a1c44fcdfe6e7f1c503bc1f2a25381e0b

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList-ers,

The issue that Jasmina is experiencing is one that most GMail users of 
the OSList are experiencing. Google really hates the OSList, and has for 
a few years but they aggressively hate us now.


I have started working on an upgrade that might address some of the 
technical excuses reasons Google hates us so much. The OSI-US has 
purchased an alternative email service to replace our currently free 
hosting to non-profits from DreamHost.


Unfortunately, that vendor doesn't seem to have enabled the service 
since Saturday, nor do they respond to support requests. Alas...


So the hoped for upgrade is delayed. In the meantime, I received a 
notice from Dreamhost that they are doing their own upgrade on May 24 
(which DreamHost tells us might involve some minutes of delay, and some 
possible limited loss of service once we perform some changes on our 
side). Who knows, maybe that will fix many of our issues. I would not 
count on it, but I am hoping.


    Harold

On 5/16/22 07:27, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

If you want the OSLIST do what the message says.

ho


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Hi!

Is there anything I should do about this?

Thank you so much.

Jasmina


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Re: [OSList] Subscribing to OS Listserve

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hello All,

I'm sad to report that it looks like Google has started to block OSList 
emails completely, including the subscription attempts. The disruption 
of an upgrade of the migration of the OSList is mandatory at this point, 
and I promise to get it done before the end of next week. Hopefully by 
Sunday.


Speaking just from my own viewpoint: I used to love Google, but I no 
longer recommend Google especially as your email provider. I have real 
and personal experience of increasing blocking of valid non-spam 
personal emails to GMail users. You may want to consider other 
providers. One free provider that seems to more respectful of privacy is 
ProtonMail.com (built by Swiss CERN physicists). https://protonmail.com


    Harold

On 5/3/22 06:08, Brendan McKeague via OSList wrote:

Hi folks (via Brendan McKeague)

Any advice on How can I re-join OSLIST? I followed instructions and 
have tried both ‘mailman’ as well as sending an email.
I did not receive any email response to either. I checked my junk mail 
too.


Thanks, Michael Wood .
spacemake...@gmail.com

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[OSList] Response from Harrison Owen

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

[This is from Harrison Owen because he is having trouble posting and 
asked me to send this on his behalf. - Harold]


Michael Panwitz's response was superb and brought back many memories. 
Michael and I teamed to produce some open space for 250 Rabbis and Imams 
-- as he said. But they weren't just "any" Imams and Rabbis. They were 
the lead guys in such places as Jerusalem, Paris, New York, Istanbul -- 
and all around the world. How we got into all this, I truly don't know, 
but there it was in Barcelona, Spain. The theme: "Peace."   Talk about 
Conflict and High Dama.


The sponsors had decided that since the attendees were a rather formal 
sort, we should not jump right into Open Space, but rather ease in. So 
the meeting began with the usual dais, speakers, and everybody sitting 
rows. Personally, I can't stand meetings like that, so I did not attend, 
but somewhere around noon, I was walking through the massive atrium of 
the hotel  when I heard the conference organizer (the guy who does all 
the work) yelling "Harrison, Harrison..". He caught up to me,  and asked 
-- "How quickly can you do Open Space? It is Chaos in there (the main 
auditorium)." "The Imam from Paris is standing on the dais screaming at 
the Chief Rabbi from Jerusalem..."


I replied -- that depended totally on the hotel staff and how quickly 
they could make a circle out of rows of chairs. To give them plenty of 
time, I suggested a three hour lunch break. That might sound extreme, 
but not unheard of in Barcelona and other parts of the world. It would 
also provide a good cooling off period.


At 3:00 pm the 250 Rabbis and Imams walked into a transformed 
environment -- one big circle. There was a quiet buzz,  radically 
different from the cacophony of the morning. What a difference a circle 
can make. I stood at the edge to welcome the people and said simply that 
we are here to find our way in peace. Then walking slowly around the 
circle I invited each person to notice all the others, locating those 
they knew, would like to know -- and all the strangers. When I reached 
the point of my beginning I stopped to enjoy the silence which was deep 
and pregnant. You could hear a pin drop.


You know what happened next. I moved to the center of the circle to 
quickly explain about posting issues, The Five Principles, One Law, 
Bumble Bees and Butterflies  --  with a final admonition to */Be 
prepared to be surprised... /* And then an invitation to any one who 
cared to post their issue. Total silence.


One by one, and soon small groups... participants moved to the center to 
take a piece of paper and write their issue. I stood quietly, and as 
each person became ready I gave them the microphone along with the 
suggestion that they keep their remarks as brief as possible. But 
clearly the group had different ideas -- and they made the space 
their own. Each announcement became a 5-10 minute "sermonet" offered 
with feeling but real respect. For more than two hours we proceeded in 
that fashion and the group as a whole listened to every word. Perhaps 
some people left, but I didn't notice. But what I did notice was that I 
was personally exhausted. It is amazing what happens when you are in the 
vortex of all that swirling energy even if you are apparently doing 
nothing. I just had to go. When I had the opportunity, I handed the 
microphone to Michael, said thank you, and walked out.


I had no question that everything would work out perfectly. And as 
Michael has described, the people quickly  came to a conclusion and 
adjourned for the evening. The next morning we met briefly in the 
circle, but since all the issues were posted there was really nothing to 
do but -- Go to work. Which we did. The issue groups met in the huge 
atrium of the hotel. Everyone contributed to the common buzz in the 
multiple languages of the participants. Great intensity, but also quiet 
respect. It seemed like the most natural thing in the world.


On this first night of the invasion of Ukraine, the peace, respect and 
passion of Barcelona might seem a distant dream. But it is also a 
hopeful one. It can happen again. However, we have a lot of space to 
open -- not just in the Ukraine. There are 8 billion of us affected by 
what is taking place and there are not nearly enough atrium hotels to 
accommodate the crowd.  New ways of opening space are obviously required 
and finding them will be both challenging and sometimes very scary. But 
we do have a lot of experience and it is time to get to work. Good luck !


Harrison




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[OSList] Space invaders and using your two feet

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

The OSList is intended to truly be "whoever comes is the right people".

The "Law of Two Feet" is hopefully something we take seriously here.

I wish there was a feature in the OSList where you could "walk away" 
from a conversation without having to leave the OSList. Well, you could 
just ignore the conversations where you are neither learning nor 
contributing.


Another option most email systems have ways are message filters that 
could automatically delete what you don't want. That is an option. With 
a little effort that would be a way to employ "The Law of Two Feet" or 
the "Law of Mobility".


    Best wishes to all!
    Harold
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Re: [OSList] Peace and High performance registration

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Opening Space for Peace & High Performance (PHP) happens starting 
tomorrow morning.


Last chance to register.

https://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2022

(Just do one person at a time if you have a guest to include - Barry is 
registered now.)


It's been a huge part of my own journey attending these events for 
nearly ten years now at International House in NYC around the MLK 
holiday. We've been virtual since last year - but Myriane Ouellette and 
April Jefferson are just awesome facilitators who will be kicking us off 
tomorrow.


April is especially an expert at online OST (though I've witnessed her 
doing Potently Present and Profound Participation Producing emPowerment 
at in Person events like Agile Open Northwest). She's been partnering 
with Lucas on QiqoChat. And she's sharing her mojo as part of the OST 
part of PHP.


Myriane started her OST journey at PHP some years ago and now she's 
changing the world starting with Canada and she was double or triple 
booked for OST this weekend. We're so lucky to have her!


The new folks are great and awe inspiring. We have the legacy 
represented too with Harrison Owen & Karen J. Davis who were part of PHP 
& OST's origins.


    Regards,
    Harold

On 1/12/22 6:43 PM, Barry Owen via OSList wrote:

/ want to register along with a guest and cannot figure out how/



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[OSList] Opening Space for Peace and High Performance 2022: A Virtual Gathering

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList,

The Open Space Institute - U.S. would like to welcome attendees to the 
second online version of Peace and High Performance that has gathered 
every year on the weekend before Martin Luther King, Jr. day since the 
late 1990's. The event began to highlight Harrison Owen's book The 
Practice of Peace. Harrison has said he will attend portions of this 
event for dialog rather than his two morning talks.


It will be January 14-16, and we are expanding to support two circles 
each day to support more time zones, especially Asia. Registration is 
necessary but the fee is optional.


https://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2022

The program does not reflect it yet, but April Jefferson and Myrianne 
Ouellette will be supporting the facilitation online with QiqoChat. 
April has become a leading practitioner of online Open Space, and 
opportunities to learn and practice OST online (as well as in general) 
will be explicitly part of the training intention of the event this year.


The theme/focus this year?

HOW MIGHT — AND WILL WE GENERATE GLOBAL IMPACT THROUGH THE GIFT OF OPEN 
SPACE?


In an effort to
WALK AWAY TRANSFORMED

as a collective, as individuals.

    Regards,
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] Test...

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

If you pray to the list serve Gods, don't expect much. There aren't any.

This list is self-organized and self-moderated. If things go well, I am 
hoping to get the OSList migrated to Mailman 3.0 soon. It will help with 
some of the bounce problems, but it won't make any difference to the 
self-organization of this conversation.


You might make a difference though. I believe you already have. Thank 
you for that, Mark!


On 10/24/21 11:50 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote:
To the list serve Gods: Maybe it's time for a list serve tune up 
how about adding Chris Corrigan's method of story sharing so we can 
collect everyone's success stories in one place? Thanks for your 
consideration and service,

MC



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[OSList] Add proceedings link for 2019 WOSonOS?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Michael,

This came up recently on the OSList. Did not realize the link wasn't there.

Would you add the link to the 2019 WOSonOS proceedings to the 
https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/ page?


They are at https://osius.org/wosonos2019proceedings 



    Thanks!
    Harold

On 10/10/21 11:53 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

Hi Michael,

I published and announced the proceedings to the OSList on March 11, 
2020. They were published to the Open Space Institute-US's website.


https://osius.org/wosonos2019proceedings 



A different Michael, Michael Herman, manages the openspaceworld.org 
website (as well as helping with the OSList email platform). I'll ask 
him to add the link there.


It is a very dear hope of mine to return to Berlin for the postponed 
next WOSonOS. If the fates allow!


    Harold

On 9/23/21 9:33 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:


Dear Eleder,

to your PS: I checked

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/


and see that WOSonOS 2019 (the 27th of its kind) is listed there but 
there is no link to the Book of Proceedings... Barry Owen and the 
Open Spacce Institute US sponsored the event near Washington DC.

I guess Barry would have a hint on where to find it.
Barry is on this list.
Hi, Barry!

If I remember right, the Berliners still want to have the 2020 event 
which could not take place because of Covid in Berlin in 2022.


I will cc the 2020 Team.

cheers and enjoy the Basque Beans!
mmp 


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Re: [OSList] Wosonos_2022 EHn?_Enc: Re: wosonos?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Michael,

I published and announced the proceedings to the OSList on March 11, 
2020. They were published to the Open Space Institute-US's website.


https://osius.org/wosonos2019proceedings 



A different Michael, Michael Herman, manages the openspaceworld.org 
website (as well as helping with the OSList email platform). I'll ask 
him to add the link there.


It is a very dear hope of mine to return to Berlin for the postponed 
next WOSonOS. If the fates allow!


    Harold

On 9/23/21 9:33 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:


Dear Eleder,

to your PS: I checked

https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/


and see that WOSonOS 2019 (the 27th of its kind) is listed there but 
there is no link to the Book of Proceedings... Barry Owen and the Open 
Spacce Institute US sponsored the event near Washington DC.

I guess Barry would have a hint on where to find it.
Barry is on this list.
Hi, Barry!

If I remember right, the Berliners still want to have the 2020 event 
which could not take place because of Covid in Berlin in 2022.


I will cc the 2020 Team.

cheers and enjoy the Basque Beans!
mmp


Am 23.09.2021 um 13:26 schrieb Gentza Eleder via OSList:
> Kaixo lagunok, Berlinen izatekoa zen 2020an, gero 2021ean, oraingoz 
inork ez ezer ziurtatzen, antza.

>
> Eta, Euskal Herrira gonbidatuko bagenitu, 2022ko udaberri eta 
udazken tarteko egun batzuetan, munduko gune irekizaleak topagune 
hezur-mami-arimazkorako?

>
> Hemen, izandako azken Wosonos 2019ko (Washington) gonbidapen orria 
(https://osius.org/wosonos2019). Galdetzen diet lurreko lagunei orduko 
txostenak non diren, bide batez.

>
> Nortzuk gogoz abenturarako?
>
> Bizi!
>
> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> BuM_31 unJobbing
> Mundaka-Basque Country
> (+0034) 638.733.223
>
> ps. Harold, Michael, I'm just playing with the idea of WS22 in the 
Basque Country (if nobody else took it; and if so, we could think 
about 2023, 24,...), asking how the Basque OS community feels about it.

>
> By the way, where could we read the proceeding book of WS19?
>
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> Em quarta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2021 às 22:24, Michael M Pannwitz 
via OSList  escreveu:

>
>> Dear Michael H.,
>>
>> here is a link to the WOSonOS 2020 that did not take place
>>
>>> https://wosonos2020.berlin/
>>
>> Under the section "News - Coronavirus Update" on the homepage the 4th
>>
>> paragraph beginning with "Next steps" goes like this
>>
>> "We are currently checking the option to postpone the WOSonOS to 2021.
>>
>> Therefore it would be helpful to know whether a designated team for 
2021

>>
>> already exists? If so, please contact us and we will figure out where
>>
>> the next WOSonOS will take place. Our preparations are on a hold – and
>>
>> whenever the time is right we (and the venue manager) are ready to
>>
>> invite you to Berlin. It is still a wonderful place to get in touch in
>>
>> Open Space on Open Space and we appreciate the opportunity to host it
>>
>> whenever it starts."
>>
>> To me it appears that the Berlin Team was checking the postponement to
>>
>> 2021. Since that appears to be out of sight I assume that it might be
>>
>> postponed to 2022.
>>
>> I am sending ccs to the Team Members.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> mmp
>>
>> Am 22.09.2021 um 18:47 schrieb Michael Herman via OSList:
>>
>>> OSonOS was to be in Berlin last year. When that didn't happen, I 
nudged

>>
>>> the pre-announcement blurb at openspaceworld.org
>>
>>> http://openspaceworld.org to October 2021. Not sure if that was good
>>
>>> information I got from someone in Berlin or me just being lazy (and
>>
>>> hopeful) at the time I updated. But now the calendar, and a first 
email

>>
>>> inquiry, is calling my/our bluff. Which is a long way of saying, what
>>
>>> up with WOSonOS?
>>
>>> Whenever it starts (again) is the right time, but when might that be?
>>
>>> Anyone venture a guess or already have a plan? Can't remember the 
last

>>
>>> time I saw mention of it here.
>>
>>> Michael
>>
>>> --
>>
>>> Michael Herman
>>
>>> Michael Herman Associates
>>
>>> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>>
>>> MichaelHerman.com http://MichaelHerman.com
>>
>>> OpenSpaceWorld.org http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>>
>>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [OSList] Join the dense web of meaningful connections this Saturday

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Livia - the time is best viewed if you go to the website 
https://tinyurl.com/DenseWeb/ <https://tinyurl.com/DenseWeb/> so it can 
translate it to your own time zone. But it's 10am Mountain Daylight 
Savings Time (GMT -0600) if you don't want to click on the link and you 
have a time zone translator or know how to do it in your head.


    Cheers,
    Harold

On 3/30/21 10:00 PM, Livia Olvera Snyder via OSList wrote:

What time???

Thank you for the invitation sound really interesting


El 30 mar 2021, a la(s) 17:27, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
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[OSList] Join the dense web of meaningful connections this Saturday

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList,

We're inviting and growing a dense web of meaningful connections on 
QiqoChat on Saturday (in North America - the date is 4-3-21). This will 
have been our eighth online qiqochat event, and it's a pretty special 
community that we're cultivating. We welcome you to join us in an 
inter-generational creative feast of Open Space.


Eily Aurora, the "Harp Fairy", who is the visionary that has led this 
effort speaks of the fully embodied and creative intentions of the event 
with this video: https://youtu.be/I4HD8T1IQBo


Want to join the dense web of meaningful connections? 
https://tinyurl.com/DenseWeb/ 


    Much love,
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] Thank YOU to ALL who Favor the Nobel Peace Prize - for Whom we all Know - with the initials H.O.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Jeff,

I'm going meta here. Let's look at the nomination process: 
https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/Nomination


It says nominations must be submitted by *January 31*. "In order for a 
nomination to be valid, it must be submitted no later than January 31." 
So we are preparing for the 2022 nomination process at this point.


Let's look at who can nominate:

https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/Nomination/Criteria-for-nominators

The relevant clause is here (emphasis added):

University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of 
*history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion*; 
university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); 
directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes


The Open Space Institute - U.S. isn't allowed to nominate exactly, it 
would be it's director. OSI-US has never had a "director". That 
typically is a paid position. We could probably work around that issue, 
maybe, but let's say we could. What is a "Peace Research Institute"? I 
can't find a definition anywhere, but there are numerous organizations 
with "Peace Research Institute" in their name. Like the "Stockholm 
International Peace Research Institute".


I just don't think the OSI-US can morph itself into an entity that would 
qualify us as a nominator. It is likely to get our nomination 
disqualified. Our best bet is to find a Professor,  Professor Emeriti, 
or Associate Professor in the relevant subjects.


    Harold


On 2/12/21 3:29 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:

Ok! My name is Jeff and I have two topics:

1.
Will the OSI-US consider discovering if they can be a Peace Institute 
under the definition in the Nobel guidelines, in order to be eligible 
and to submit a Peace Prize nomination?


2.
Will others join me to research any eligible university faculty or 
faculty emeritus who might be willing to submit a Peace Prize nomination?


Warmly,
Jeff
rjeffait...@gmail.com 

Telegraph Hill, San Francisco
Ramaytush Ohlone ancestral territory

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 1:55 PM Barry Owen via OSList 
> wrote:


Hello Mark!

Jeff and I connected today about this today, and we are definitely
interested in moving this forward.

I would like to pose a question - A theme:

By all means, feel free to edit the theme if you feel so moved
*
*
*How will we appropriately Honor the significance of the impact on
all beings through Harrison Owen's discovery and dissemination of
Open Space Technology?*

A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize seems to be a good start.

All 8 Billion of us are hereby invited to join us to explore
issues and opportunities relating to this important and complex
theme.

For sure, our participants will be a wildly diverse group and
potential for conflict runs with the territory, - we know that
resolving to succeed with this nomination will be a HUGE leap
towards Harrison Owen's realization of his lifelong work of
bringing all 8 Billion of us into useful conversation.
We know that this is possible  because we know that it matters not
how MANY people join this gathering , , , It's WHO comes. All the
right people will Show up and be fully present.
NOW is the right time for this . . . Right HERE wherever we are  .
. . and whatever happens will be the only thing that could have .
. . And we might just break the 5th principal, because, with
success comes a universal conversation which we know will never be
over. Bumblebees, Butterflies, and the law of 2 feet . . . and our
only expectation is that we'll be surprised.

Let's get to work - We've got @ 8 months to submit this nomination

PS . . . I don't have a "Plan B"

b

So . . . State your name - Title your topic - and add it to the
Bulletin Board  . . . The marketplace is now open

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 3:02 PM Mark Carmel via OSList
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:


 How is that for a little poetry for you?  It was amazing to
me that I had the lightning bolt of this idea and shared it
with you all only to Learn from Jeff Aitken, it was within
minutes of the deadline for the previous cycle. I would like
to sincerely thank everyone who replied positively. I love the
suggestion from Jeff and Romy that perhaps we could transform
ourselves into a peace institute or to rely on professors to
submit the nomination for us next year ... Of course this is
not my party and I'm not in charge. (Darn it, LOL...).

If the World Could Only See,
That Open Space Technology IS the way to BE,
Then all the World's Women and all the worlds Men,
Will Live Peacefully Together again
 And be Happy all the way till THE END.
___--




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[OSList] Harrison's Morning Reflections from Opening Space for Peace & High Performance 2021

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

These are the morning reflections that Harrison Owen offered on Saturday 
and Sunday for Opening Space for Peace & High Performance 2021, the 
virtual gathering. Wonderful talks.


Saturday Morning (1/23): https://youtu.be/_Mpmku_dM3Y 

Sunday Morning (1/24): https://youtu.be/RoF4apOm1Hg 



It would have been wiser for me not to say anything - but I will. But 
it's not intended to be an adequate introduction to Harrison's reflections.


Marc Trudeau alluded to the theme Harrison challenged us with on 
Saturday - to ask the questions that can't be answered. Powerful stuff.


On Sunday, Harrison wore a few different hats. Literally!

    Enjoy!
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Great questions - Steve!

I've not yet played much with GNU MailMan 3.3, but it does have a much 
prettier modern looking interface. I am appreciating this poking topic 
about us being "antiquated" in adding to my motivation and enthusiasm 
about the upgrade process. As much as making it pretty will help folks 
get in and self-manage their accounts - the most urgent reasons for 
upgrading are actually about avoiding so many email services automatic 
spam filtering and blocking systems, as well as moving to SSL.


If a consensus emerges about a shift to the intro text - that will be 
easy for me to execute. It needs to be just text and links for now. And 
it should be "An introductory description - a few paragraphs - about the 
list. " Not really a place for embedded pictures or videos (but links to 
them are ok).


This is what it says now (at 
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org)


   Welcome to the international Open Space Technology mailing list.

   Operating since December 1996, this list includes some of the
   foremost Open Space Technology facilitators, including the
   originator, Harrison Owen.

   For more information about Open Space Technology (OST) - there have
   been several books published - and there are many OST descriptions
   posted on the internet. Here's an about page for OST
   <http://osius.org/content/about-open-space-technology>.


    Harold


On 1/29/21 11:32 AM, Steve Holyer via OSList wrote:


Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past 
moderators, the contributors, and Harold.


And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I 
wouldn’t change it.


And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs 
were all the rage.


i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is 
something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a 
listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I 
wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to 
invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube 
video on how to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even 
having Harrison’s response on the history and openness of the list 
helps me connect to the list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it 
more after reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe 
just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and archive page 
would be useful. I think just pinning a long threaded list of messages 
to include this whole thread wouldn’t really speak to the people who 
might be put off by long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a 
summary, or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)


I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an 
answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this 
question.) Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.


And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s 
answered.


Cheers,
Steve

On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:

No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a 
very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.


Cheers,
Tony

On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for 
sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably 
existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries 
the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open 
Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has 
done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has 
worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...


ho

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
wrote:

Michael,

Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do 
better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the 
OSList.


I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But 
looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since 
the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State 
University LISTSERV (osl...@idbsu.idbsu.edu 
<mailto:osl...@idbsu.idbsu.edu>) days.


|Harold |

On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list 
still exists in this open, free, independent way.


And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many 
messages have we posted here so far?


Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. 
Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every 
message ever sent through the list. Amazing!


I know we passed 3 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total 
is now. I can’t figure where to look i

Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Michael,

Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better. 
Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.


I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But 
looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since 
the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University 
LISTSERV (osl...@idbsu.idbsu.edu) days.


    Harold

On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list 
still exists in this open, free, independent way.


And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many 
messages have we posted here so far?


Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. 
Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every 
message ever sent through the list. Amazing!


I know we passed 3 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total 
is now.  I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that 
number, Harold?


Thanks, Michael



On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList 
> wrote:


Thank you Harold,
I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list,
and the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a
platform that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over
many years, and also to those who preceded you.

A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to
follow threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of
the archives
http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
.
Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are
searchable. When something that is posted catches my attention, it
is easy to go to the archives to see what I may have missed in the
thread and also simultaneously by topic access what has been
discussed in relation to the topic over the years.

in genuine contact,
Birgitt

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Re: [OSList] help with the formatting of the OSLIST when it arrives in my Mach Mail programme

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thank you for the donation requests and the generous donations that have 
come in!


The Open Space Institute U.S. actually has a decent funding base right 
now. I serve as the treasurer as well as the "webmaster", and the board 
is working on a way to hold space for open space with the funds we have.


I personally will not accept any money for my volunteer work. My rewards 
from being involved with this community have been profuse, powerful and 
profound. I'm grateful for the capacity to support Open Space in this 
way. Even if it's not always smooth. Technology has a way of getting in 
the way sometimes more often than it provides a way. Ideally, this tech 
stuff would all be invisible.


I was happy and grateful to put in the effort to migrate the OSList from 
the LISTSERV platform when it stopped being free back in the spring of 
2011. It was looking like it would have cost over a $1000 US annual back 
then.


What can you, members of the OSList, do to support us?

I'll ask that at the next board meeting, but I'll speak from my own 
heart and with my own opinion.


Think about the question Harrison Owen proposed in January of 2020 in 
his morning talks to use in New York City when we could still meet in 
person. This question was also the heart of the online Opening Space for 
Peace and High Performance from a few days ago.



   “How do we engage 8 billion people in meaningful conversation?”

Harrison thrilled us with another question a few days ago at that same 
event. I will paraphrase.

*
**What are the critical questions that have no answer?*

    Harold


 Open Space Institute U.S.

On 1/28/21 5:15 AM, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList wrote:

Michael lucky you - thanks for the invitation.

Dear Doug,

having not received any Economic Impact Payment from the Donald,
I have donated only 30 dollars.
Thanks so much for this precious service
all the best
ge

**


Il giorno gio 28 gen 2021 alle ore 09:56 Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
> ha scritto:


Dear Doug,

just received my Economic Impact Payment of 600$ signed by the former
President of the USA.

Well, your email came just in time to send a 100$ donation to the
Open
Space Institute-USA that they can use as they wish and I would
love to
see it go into a retirement fund of our overworked colleague in
Montana.
Here is the PayPal transfer note

"Hallo Michael M Pannwitz!
PayPal
Sie haben eine Zahlung über $100,00 USD an Open Space Institute (US)
(i...@osius.org ) gesendet"




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Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Mark,

The software we use is version 2.1.23 of GNU MailMan, which is an open 
source email distribution list management platform. Our MailMan service 
is provided for free by DreamHost.com, who also provides free webhosting 
service to the Open Space Institute - U.S. DreamHost.com has been a 
great company, and they offer free webhosting to 501(c)(3) non-profits.


I agree that the MailMan needs an major upgrade. An upgrade is not 
something offered by DreamHost, though I can install it on the DreamHost 
servers. But I hope no one thinks we are back in the "stone ages", or 
"when the internet was first invented". I treasure your passion for 
truth, but I don't like being disrespected or dishonored, especially 
with falsehoods. Here are the facts.


1) The date of the invention of the internet is somewhat fuzzy, but the 
real guy who invented the internet (standing on the shoulders of many 
others) was Vinton Cerf, who designed the TCP/IP protocols in the 
1970's. TCP/IP was accepted as the ARPANET protocol in 1983.


2) Version 2.1.23 GNU MailMan is relatively old, released in August 
2016. The latest 2.x version is 2.1.34 released in June of 2020. But it 
just minor issues. I'd like to update to version 3.3.2 (Nov 6, 2020). 
which has a more modern interface.


3) We are an EMAIL based system. For most people, it's not going to look 
very different, no matter what system we use. Everyone gets to use their 
own email program. We aren't forcing anyone to use a website, download 
an app to their phones, etc.


4) There are other closed platforms we could use. (Like GoogleGroups, 
Groups.IO, etc. etc.). These platforms do have their own community 
standards, and they do forbid certain conversations. I don't think that 
is appropriate for the main Open Space online conversation. I hope we 
can stay independent.


Mark - I am valuing your feedback. We do need a major upgrade, for 
multiple reasons beyond your personal experience of the formatting 
(which I have explained how you can fix in an earlier email). But I 
don't think you are being fair or accurate.


    Harold

On 1/27/21 6:15 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote:
It is so hard to follow a thread of thought. When was this platform 
started? When the internet was first invented? Come on folks, let's 
catch up with a workable format.  This is in need of a major upgrade. 
Thanks for your consideration,

Mark Carmel



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Re: [OSList] help with the formatting of the OSLIST when it arrives in my Mach Mail programme

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Romy, Anne,

I don't use, nor do I recommend the "Digest" format. You can change that 
if you scroll to the bottom of every email from the OSList and manage 
your subscription. You might need to reset your password if you have 
forgotten it.


I know it means less email traffic in your inbox if you receive the 
"Digest" format, but it makes it really hard for the rest of us to know 
when you reply what email you are replying to. And the digest format 
will not be in the nice format like you want. I don't have the capacity 
to write another group email program to fix that.


Threads are a feature of your email reading program. I can turn on 
threads for my Thunderbird. By default the GMail app lists things by 
conversations, as do many others. But GMail doesn't do that if you use 
the GNU MailMan Digest feature - which jams a whole bunch of OSList 
emails into a single email. And you can't change how MailMan does the 
jamming.


Hope that makes sense. And my profuse apologies for not being an active 
moderator or manager of the OSList, and that I don't reply quickly to 
requests. Sometimes I don't even see them. Many many apologies! There is 
a big chunk of work on my plate for the OSList to upgrade us to the 
latest version which should solve several problems, though I don't think 
it will solve the "Digest" problem. I'm hoping all of us can self-manage 
most of the other needs.


    Harold

On 1/26/21 3:14 AM, Romy Shovelton via OSList wrote:

Hello Harold,

It was SO lovely to see you and be with you at the weekend. The person 
who is behind so much work to keep us all in touch via the OSLIST… and 
with us once again, helping with all sorts of technical magic. Thanks 
again.


I wonder if you might be able to help me with the way that the OSLIST 
arrives into my Mach Mail programme? As you see below…. I receive this 
list with duplicates of conversations through it + lots of other 
general stuff… making it hard to pick out the thread of a conversation.


Suzanne showed me how she receives OSLIST in her gmail account - in 
wonderfully clear threads, where you can see responses to a particular 
posting, and not extraneous bla bla. I tried logging into gmail, 
rather than my Mach Mail programme, and unfortunately did not receive 
the OSLIST in the way that Suzanne does.


Do you have any clues about what I might do?

Thanks again SO much

Romy


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[OSList] Flourishing Futures starting tomorrow

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList,

The Flourishing Futures world wide open space starts tomorrow. The 
registrations are rolling in fast today. We are at 234 people signed up 
with more coming. Hope to see you there!


https://www.eventbrite.com/e/flourishing-futures-a-3-day-global-event-for-facilitators-changemakers-tickets-121065511203

    Regards,
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Re: [OSList] Are we bugged?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Doug,

I'm having severe problems with Google mail, and I no longer trust 
Google (for many reasons). They have at times sorted my emails into the 
spam folder for unknown reasons. I discovered yesterday Google blocked 
one of my shinsato.com emails, even though my har...@shinsato.com is a 
validated email address for Gmail!!!  I am in the process of 
disconnecting from Google, which is painful and slow as they do have 
excellent industry leading products. But I believe they are abusing 
their leadership.


Even so, Google is a behemoth that can't be ignored. My solution is not 
a solution everyone can employ. So I will do what I can.


Many years ago, I made the domain for the OSList a Google Verified one. 
But they still are judging us, and it looks like the judgement is 
getting ever worse. A couple weeks ago I added SSL to openspacetech.org, 
and clearly that did not help.


It might be that our links are not SSL links. Maybe that will help. I've 
sent a request to DreamHost. I'll keep trying things. But I'm not sure 
Google will be happy unless we abandon the OSList and switch to a Google 
product.


    Harold

On 10/28/20 10:16 AM, doug via OSList wrote:

Friends--

Sounds like someone spammed the list and that got caught by the 
filters these services set up.


Harold, is it possible it goes away on its own?

:- Doug.

On 10/28/20 5:15 AM, Csaba Lengyel via OSList wrote:

Also Gmail does the same thing 


Sylwia Myszka-Szyszka via OSList > ezt írta (időpont: 2020. 
okt. 27., K, 18:25):


    The same for me. All messages land in the SPAM folder and on the top
    of each message there is a huge red alert, saying: This message is
    dangerous. It contains a link that was used for personal data theft.
    Do not open any links in this message and do not share your personal
    data."

    Does anyone know what to do with it?

    Love,
    Sylwia

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    niedz., 25 paź 2020 o 15:03 Harrison Owen via OSList
     napisał(a):

    My Norton goes crazy if I get near OSLIST. What's up?

    Harrison


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Re: [OSList] Open Space hotline hangout! Tuesday June 16th @ 12PM EDT

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Tricia, Tom, Tricia has been sending out the new link with the 
passcode. It's in built into the link. Just so folks don't get confused 
- here's the new link. *NEW LINK: *from PC, Mac, iOS or 
Android:https://us02web.zoom.us/j/751609912?pwd=QmZCYUNrYTU4Y2ZrWHVFTzVTcTMvUT09 



On 10/20/20 7:46 AM, Tricia Chirumbole wrote:

Hey Tom!

Just found this in my spam :O Did you get passcode issue worked out?

@Harold Shinsato  is there something I 
need to add, or is pswd embedded in the new link you gave to me?


Thanks!



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[OSList] Future of Work global 24 hr OST 9/25-26

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Open Space List,
The Open Space Institute - U.S. is proud to sponsor & support the Future 
of Work global 24 hour Open Space gathering on September 25/26. It's a 
global dialog where we will "Explore our Potential for Disruption" 
related to the future of work.
We invite you to join the conversation and represent the OSList. The 
event spans 24 hours - come and go as you please. The requested fee is 
only $50, but there is also a pay-what-you-can option. Hope to see some 
of you there!


https://bit.ly/FoW24HR
    Warm Regards,
    Harold Shinsato on behalf of the Open Space Institute - U.S.

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Re: [OSList] The 2020 Online World Open Space on Open Space - Planning Discussion

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Woohoo, awesome! Please count me in as well as my Zoom Pro account.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:11 PM chris.altmikus--- via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Please count me in as well. We can also use our accout. Cheri
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Chris M. Altmikus
> Chemin de la Bovarde 37
> CH-1091 Grandvaux
>
> ph +41 21 799 31 34
> m  +41 78 935 31 34
> chris.altmi...@idea-link.eu
> http://www.idea-link.eu
>
> Le 1 juin 2020 à 00:56, Allie Middleton via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> a écrit :
>
> Newell Eaton and I each have pro zoom
>
> happy to offer break out spaces
> as needed
>
> co/evolution - co:crystallizing ...
>
> 
>
> *Allie Middleton*
>
>
> On May 31, 2020, at 17:32, Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Would also love to contribute, my account is in
> Rolf
>
>
> Am 31.05.2020/ Kw22 um 18:58 schrieb Lucas Cioffi via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Four weeks ago we heard from our colleagues in Germany that unfortunately
> and understandably the 2020 in-person gathering cannot happen this year
> (their original message is at the bottom of this email).
>
> Then Mark Carmel started a thread 12 days ago: "How about we have a global
> OST facilitated by HHO with invites to all on this list serve?"
>
> *I propose that we can all participate in the planning process for an
> online World Open Space on Open Space (WOSonOS) this year*...
>
> *First we'll need a compelling invitation.*  On this Google doc
> 
>  you
> will find 10 empty spaces where anyone can write a rough draft of an
> invitation.  You can also add comments to other people’s invitations in the
> comment section for each invitation.  If you would prefer to not use Google
> docs, please feel free to reply to this email with your draft invitation.
>
>- Action Item: So if you find yourself sitting down for coffee one
>morning with a clear mind and thinking about why it is important to bring
>OS facilitators from across the world together at this moment, please share
>those thoughts as an invitation on that page.
>
> *Second we'll need a place to host the event.*  If we get 25 (or more)
> people to offer their Zoom accounts, then we can have 25 (or more) breakout
> spaces for free.  We can use a tool I've built (QiqoChat) to make it easy
> for people to jump between the Zoom meetings, but people can use Zoom
> directly if they prefer.
>
>- Action Item: Please add your name to the Google doc (link is above)
>if you have a Zoom pro account and would like to share it for this online
>WOSonOS.
>
> *When should we do it?*  I propose that once we complete the invitation,
> we schedule it with three week's advance notice.
>
> *How much should it cost?*  I propose that it should be free with a
> recommended donation of $X to organizations near where you live (for
> example the Open Space Institute  if you live in the
> US).  This way we can use the event to build our network's capacity.
>
> What do you think?  The thread is open...
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Lead Software Engineer, QiqoChat.com 
> Scarsdale, NY
> 917-528-1831
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:12 PM Jo Toepfer via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear OS Community worldwide!
>>
>> *Whatever happens is the only thing that could have… *We hereby inform
>> you – with regret, let’s say it ones before we look forward – that we
>> decided to stop the preparation of the WOSonOS 2020 planned to be held
>> October 29 through 31, 2020.
>>
>> After a careful review of the current circumstances and the possible
>> developments of the COVID-19 pandemia we came to the conclusion that we can
>> not held the event as planned. At the moment it would be unrealistic to
>> conduct the event in a face-to-face format in fall 2020 here in Berlin. We
>> as the sponsor and all those who want to participate and would have to book
>> their trip in advance would be left with the cancellation costs.
>>
>> The alternative option to hold the WOSonOS as an online event instead is
>> clearly not our choice. For us this would be a different meeting than the
>> one we are entrusted with, and we have no passion to do it online.
>>
>> The ones who already registered, 43 participants from Iceland, France,
>> Canada, Netherlands, UK, Belgium, Sweden, US, Italy, Spain, Malaysia,
>> Switzerland and Germany, are already informed personally and their
>> participation fees will be fully refunded.
>>
>> *Next steps:* We are currently checking the option to postpone the
>> WOSonOS to 2021. Therefore it would be helpful to know whether a designated
>> team for 2021 already exists? If so, please contact us and we will figure
>> out where the next WOSonOS will take place. Our preparations are on a
>> hold – and 

[OSList] Another Open Space Hotline! Tuesday, May 12th 12 PM EDT :)

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi All,

OSHotline - now! Cheers!

On 5/4/20 5:58 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:

Hello all!

The Open Space Hangout Hotline is scheduled for *Tuesday May 5th @ 12 
PM EDT. *


Join us with whatever is alive for you right now!

Come to share, come to listen, come to be surprised :)

*Join the call*
from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/751609912 



a. Join by phone: +1 (415) 762-9988 or +1 (646) 568-7788 (US Toll)
b. International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference 


c. Meeting ID: 751 609 912

Until then!


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Re: [OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tuesday, April 28th 12 PM EDT :)

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hey OSListers, if you haven't joined the OS Hotline since the global 
lockdowns, these conversations have been amazing.


I discovered yesterday a feature in Zoom Breakout rooms yesterday that 
seems to enable the Law of Two Feet that we can try today if we want.


    Curiously Yours,
    Harold


On 4/27/20 7:36 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:

Hello all!

The Open Space Hangout Hotline is scheduled for *Tuesday April 28th @ 
12 PM EDT. *


Join us with whatever is alive for you right now!

Come to share, come to listen, come to be surprised :)

*Join the call*
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[OSList] OS Hotline is ON! Now

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

The OS Hotline is active every Tuesday. It's happening now. Sorry for 
last minute notice.

*Join the call*
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[OSList] Harrison Owen's morning talks at Opening Space for Peace & High Performance 2020

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList,

Harrison Owen graced at the Opening Space for Peace & High Performance 
event in NYC this past January at International House before MLK day 
with these talks.


It's some of his best speaking, and an important challenge to think 
beyond what we've been thinking in spreading OST. Hope you take some 
time to hear his words.


https://youtu.be/obLNCc9BnOg 

    Regards,
    Harold

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[OSList] WOSonOS 2019 Book of Proceedings (final I hope)

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList!

This should be the final version of the World Open Space on Open Space 
2019 Book of Proceedings from our gathering (that were graced by 
Harrison and Evelyn Owen) in the lovely Cherry Hill Park in College 
Park, Maryland. The delays are entirely my fault. I hope you may enjoy them.


https://osius.org/wosonos2019proceedings

    With Gratitude,
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] Video?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Koos is right.

And actually, our mailman software does not let large emails through. Even
emailing photos endangers the OSList being labeled a spam site.

Please use YouTube, Vimeo, Google Drive, Box, or any number of free file
hosting platforms and then mail the link.

Then it won’t clog up email a thousand email inboxes, and only those opt to
click the link do the megabyte/gigabyte download, so the OSList won’t be
blamed.

Cheers,
Harold

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 4:44 PM Koos de Heer via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Generally, it is considered good internet practice to not send large files
> to a mailing list, but a link.
>
> I am also very curious, so I hope the uploading works.
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Koos de Heer
>
>
>  Oorspronkelijk bericht 
> Van: Jeff Aitken via OSList 
> Datum: 15-10-19 21:46 (GMT+01:00)
> Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Jeff Aitken 
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Video?
>
> Hey Phelim. No expert here, but a link seems wise. Can't wait to see it!
>
> Jeff
> Yelamu (San Francisco)
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 10:29 AM Phelim McDermott via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> If I send a video in an email to the OSList will people be able to see
>> it? Or do I need to upload it to something like Vimeo and send a link?
>>
>> Asking for a friend?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Phelim
>> -
>>  I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
>> day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
>> please call me on 07956 187298.
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Re: [OSList] Back to OSLIST

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Arthur,

Please accept my heartfelt welcome on your return. I have missed your
supposedly bad English, and your presence animates us regardless of your
language skill self assessment.

I’m participating despite my low level of posts. It seems so challenging to
put into words how meaningful and inspiring this journey has been and how
to add to the dialog. But your mere presence makes it easier. I’m honored
to be included in such an esteemed set of names. Luckily it was non
discriminatory!

Much gratitude,
Harold

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:48 AM Artur Silva via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dear Friends of OSLIST,
>
> After a sick period, I'm back on this list - and back to business. And as
> someone once wrote that "The Business of Business is Lerning" I am back to
> learning too!
>
> As you know, my English is bad (it's my third foreign language) and I
> can't pretend to animate this list.
>
> But I hope Harrison will have more activity again, and others will have
> (or become) more active. I am thinking, for example, and without wishing to
> discriminate against anyone, Peggy Holman, Michael Herman, Harold
> Shinshato, Suzanne Daigle, Christine Koheler, Lisa Heft, Brenden McKeague,
> Jeff Aitken, Juan Luis Walker, Brian Owen, etc. And in so many new
> facilitators that this list, if it comes back to life, will attract ...
>
> As for me, I will start a blog about OST (maybe bilingual), relaunch the
> OST Institute in Portugal and propose Portugal for WOSonOS 2022, not in
> Lisbon but in the center, possibly in Caldas da Rainha (where my family is
> from and is the small city where I now live) or Coimbra - which is not far
> away.
>
> Best regards
>
> Artur Silva
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Re: [OSList] for you, what most honors the Ineffable Spirit of OST?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Rob,

I'm curious about how the words "Right" in what I listed, which are part of
the way I've usually seen the 5 principles delivered, as being judgemental.
They were not a part of what I thought I was offering, yet that seemed to
be most potent in what came through. For me the words "Whoever comes is the
right people" is less about judgement, and more like the word "right" in
Right Livelihood.

Yet getting beyond judgement is certainly an important part of my practice,
as respect is for you. How might I have written it so it wasn't the first
thing you thought?

I'm very grateful for your reply and I offer you my respect and gratitude
for your description of how respect is your practice. I deeply value
respect and I honor your practice.

Harold

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:50 PM R Chaffe via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Harold,
> You use the prefix “right” I struggle with the implied judgement.  That
> is, if I had to explain “right” what that might be?  I .think it is also a
> reflective observation “the right people came”. The implication could be
> that those who were ready to take on the challenges generated at the
> gathering.
>
> For me I think from the very first step to create an event the “thing that
> most honours the ineffable spirit of OST is respect.  This is something I
> can implement, practice and acknowledge without being trapped into
> judgmental descriptives.  Yes, respect also implies judgement the main
> difference  is I can practice respect.  Unconditional  respect leads to the
> most powerful elements of Peace, Hope, Empowerment and Love.
>
> Regards
> Rob
>
> > On 18 Sep 2019, at 9:01 am, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > What most honors the ineffable spirit of Open Space Technology for you?
> >
> > For me, it's mostly just being in five principles... Trusting the
> Universe is already providing
> >
> > the Right People
> > the Right Time
> > the Right Place
> > the Right Stuff (whatever happens)
> >
> > What about you?
> >
> > Harold
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[OSList] for you, what most honors the Ineffable Spirit of OST?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

What most honors the ineffable spirit of Open Space Technology for you?

For me, it's mostly just being in five principles... Trusting the Universe
is already providing

the Right People
the Right Time
the Right Place
the Right Stuff (whatever happens)

What about you?

Harold
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[OSList] Coming to WOSonOS? Did you book your room?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Are you planning to come to WOSonOS 2019 Oct 25-27? Or the workshops before
or after?

If you have not yet booked a space at Cherry Hill Park, reserve now!

*SPACE IS LIMITED! October is a busy season at Cherry Hill Park!*
We have a few inexpensive options starting at $90 for 3 night stay!
- Shared cottages (reserve by reaching out to* Kevin O’Brien : *1-302-379-0807
/ ke...@ktobrien.com <1-302-379-0807/ke...@ktobrien.com>)
- Cabins
- Glamping pod
- Yurt

For more information reserve at : https://www.cherryhillpark.com
To register : https://osius.org/wosonos2019

Harold (on behalf of the board of the Open Space Institute - U.S.)
(Thank you Myriane Ouellette for composing the above!)

(p.s. The Eager discount has expired, but there are still Early Bird
discounts. And if you need support, please contact us as we have some
limited scholarship funds.)
(p.p.s. Want do see who is registered?
https://osius.org/wosonos2019-participants)
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Re: [OSList] Understanding Open Space - training talks on CD

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Marai,

The CDs were printed and sold through the OSI-US bookstore partner years
ago, but that operation was made obsolete by Amazon and electronic books,
and they closed it and shipped us the remaining inventory. There are none
of the CDs left.

We have planned to make them available online for some time. They are some
of Harrison’s best work in my opinion, and we do hope to make them
available again. But we can’t promise a timeline.

Harold

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:40 PM Marai Kiele via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I am wondering if and where this is still available:
>
> Understanding Open Space - training talks on CD
> Hear the thinking behind Open Space from its creator, Harrison Owen. This
> recording was made during the July, 1999 Open Space Technology Facilitation
> Workshop in Seattle, Washington. These stories, which Harrison tells when
> introducing Open Space to new facilitators, take OS out of the realm of
> better meetings and into a different way of being.
> 5 CD set
>
> I have the CDs for myself, yet as I am training others in OST I want to be
> able to point them to this resource.
>
> I found them on the OSIUS page
> https://osius.org/content/open-space-books-videos-and-more only without a
> link.
>
> When I google for them, I have nothing helpful coming up.
>
> Can anybody help?
>
> Thank you!
> Marai
>
> https://about.me/maraikiele
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Re: [OSList] Change of email address not possible in the system!

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList Membership,

And we interrupt your usual broadcast with a message from your sponsors...

As you may or may not be aware, we have a purely volunteer group that 
manages the OSList. And in the spirit of Open Space, the list needs to 
be mostly self-organized. When there are problems, it is mostly me. 
Michael Herman has also graciously offered his technical support. Any 
other volunteers would be most gratefully welcomed!


The Open Space Institute of the U.S. sponsors the hosting of the OSList. 
Since we are an U.S. 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation, we are given free 
hosting from the generous people at DreamHost. And they provide this 
through the Open Source software system called GNU MailMan. The software 
is not under my control, so I can not just do updates or make changes. 
Which in many ways is a good thing, otherwise it would likely take so 
much time we would not be able to manage it.


There appears to be a user interface if you log into our MailMan service 
on the web to change email address. And it doesn't appear to work, at 
least for one person. I don't have the ability to override this with the 
administrative interface. It looks like it just does the same thing if 
you do it yourself.


BUT THERE IS GOOD NEWS. There's not a whole lot of benefit of 
maintaining your "account". Just subscribe your new address and 
unsubscribe the old one. That does work.


And now back to your regular program.

    Regards,
    Harold

On 7/21/19 7:19 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

Hi Judith,

My apologies for the bug you are encountering. I will look into that 
later today and see if I can change the email. I may not be able to 
get past the bug. But we can just subscribe your new email and remove 
the old one.


Harold




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[OSList] What's so great about OST? Thanks Thomas Perret!

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Many thanks to Thomas Perret for playing our "What's so great about 
OST?" game by submitting a video for the Open Space Institute - U.S. 
youtube channel!


https://osius.org/content/thomas-perret-whats-so-great-about-ost

The language and focus of Thomas' answer to this question I found very 
powerful, clear, and compelling. May you enjoy it and all the 13 videos 
 
we have from the community answering this question. Do you want to be 
voice #14? You can 'play' too: 
https://osius.org/content/videos-requested-whats-so-great-about-open-space-technology


    Warm Regards!
    Harold

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[OSList] WOSonOS 2019 registrations open

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Open Space Family,

The World Open Space on Open Space 2019 registration page is live and 
ready to receive registrations.


https://osius.org/wosonos2019

Many thanks to all the Open Space Institute board members, emeritus 
members and friends who helped scout facilities, lodging options, for 
developing artwork, and for the many people who helped us fashion the 
theme of...


¿Honoring the Ineffable Spirit of Open Space Technology?

We say more about the theme on the website. It seems impossible to 
capture the spirit behind Open Space Technology in words, thus the word 
ineffable. Which means utterly indescribable. So the upside-down 
question mark we stole from the Spanish is intended to especially 
emphasize the inquiry about honoring that spirit.


Please feel free to send any questions to i...@osius.org, to me, or to 
any board member you know. We hope to see many of you there.


    Regards,
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Very interesting conversation and attempts to describe OST!

I'm reading Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book, Anti-Fragile. It seems to me 
Open Space is antifragile.


The idea of antifragility goes beyond resilience. Life in general is 
antifragile. It doesn't just bounce back from set-backs. It actually 
gets stronger as it overcomes challenges and stress.


Antifragility seems relevant in this conversation as it seems the more 
people try to document or describe Open Space, even with rather 
challenging inaccuracies, the stronger it gets. I like Liberating 
Structures. The 'min-specs' for OST seem accurate in the book and the 
website, even if it leaves out how much more powerful it gets in the 
"long form" (or at least more than 90 minutes). And it leaves out the 
need to get strong authorization from leaders. I love that it says it's 
not open space without the law of two feet. But the Liberating 
Structures 'min-specs' don't emphasize the importance of not generating 
topics ahead of time. I've unfortunately encountered rather large events 
claiming to be 'open space' where the participants either generated the 
topics in advance, or worse, didn't even get to generate the topics.


The "Open Space" with-a-twist as described on 
https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology shows a nice picture and 
I hope it introduces more folks to Open Space Technology. For me at 
least, doing the agenda creation before the OST is an unconference 
trick, but it hugely diminishes the potential power of OST.


For what it is worth - Harrison Owen may not have claimed any ownership 
rights of Open Space, but what he did do is ask us to share back what we 
learn as we practice Open Space. That should start by honoring and 
sharing our sources.


Another way to reference back is a project the Open Space Institute U.S. 
did a several years ago with Harrison Owen's help. "Open Space 
Technology: The Reference Definition" which is Creative Commons Share 
and Adapt (cc by-sa) licensed. So feel free to reference it as you 
share-and-extend. Twisty or Straight!


http://osius.org/ost-reference-definition

    Regards,
    Harold

On 6/5/19 8:10 AM, Robin Muretisch, Facilitative Insights, LLC via 
OSList wrote:


For everyone, the Liberating Structures site has a handy “min specs” 
description of OST.  Here’s the link: 
http://www.liberatingstructures.com/25-open-space-technology/.


Regards,

Robin


Robin D. H. Muretisch, CPF, MBA, CPA

IAF Certified™ Professional Facilitator

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*From:*OSList  *On Behalf Of 
*Nick Martin via OSList

*Sent:* Wednesday, June 05, 2019 2:33 AM
*To:* Marai Kiele ; ost list 
international 

*Cc:* Nick Martin 
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin

Thanks for your open letter Marai. I'm always excited and willing to 
receive feedback.


As you'll remember over a year ago I opened up the content of this 
article for comments and input from this list in the form of a Google 
Doc.


Such was the passion exhibited in the original thread I was eager and 
excited to receive your inputs. Unfortunately only two people replied 
though. I'm very grateful to both you and Keith Blundell for taking 
the time.


I must admit life took over and in my wait for more input other 
priorities took over. I'm happy to revisit it now though as I can feel 
the energy is back and I'd like to the right thing in the eyes of this 
excellent community.


Here's the link - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing


Please add your thoughts, comments and feedback and amend the article 
as best I can.



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On 05/06/2019 01:53, Marai Kiele wrote:

Hello Nick Martin,

I find myself tense in my belly after reading your newsletter today:

I just wanted to share with you a popular WorkshopBank tool


 you
can start using with your clients right away. Let me know what you
think.

You suggest that the reader lets you know what they think. I
choose to do that.

I also choose to do that in the form of an open letter, as several
months back you asked on the os-list for input to your description
   

Re: [OSList] Prerequisites for Selforganization/open space - in Haiti

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Michael - thank you for that link. It was a moving account how the 
community avoided bloodshed through listening and cooperation helped 
along through the practice of open space. I also found myself unable to 
stop reading.


    Warm Regards from Montana,
    Harold

On 4/16/19 8:56 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:

Dear LIST,

in the midst of our dialogue on
"One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the field of 
experience and practice"
a message from John and Merlin Engle reached me from Haiti in a time 
of deep crisis and chaos.


It describes in detail how "a relatively" safe space in the middle of 
crisis and chaos in an extremely chaotic situation under involvement 
of diverse elements wanting to get through a wicked situation creates 
constructive cooperation in a humane and peaceful and non-violent 
manner. No doubt, the continuing practice of many of those involved in 
day-to-day Haitian style of os was of good help.


It will take a few minutes to read through this note from Haiti, I 
could not interrupt or stop until I came to the end...


Here is the link
https://haitipartners.org/childrens-academy/from-violence-to-dialogue-dealing-with-unrest-at-the-childrens-academy/ 


I wonder what this means to you.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp








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Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the field of experience and practice

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Michael,

This inquiry inspires me to write something. Thank you Michael!

I cheer on your reminder that sharing our learning is a Law. Harrison Owen
did not license, patent, or copyright Open Space Technology. But it was
gifted with the requirement we sharing our learning. Maybe no Government
can enforce this Law. Yet perhaps it's reality is even more REAL than most
laws that governments can enforce.

As for breaks, this has been something that has bothered me. Many groups
that I have helped or participated with strenuously wanted formal breaks
between the breakouts. I'd prefer to trust people to take care of
themselves. And yet maybe when a group that self-organizes their own Open
Space event force in not only end times, but also break times, I've seen it
can help people give themselves some space.

But I'm curious how you and others help people give respect to those who
schedule sessions. Very often I find that extroverts and assertive people
just hold onto their space and the more introverted and reserved wait
patiently for the space to vacate. I like to ask people to respect the
groups that follow to find another space. And so very frequently, groups
(especially larger ones), will not find another space even though "it's not
over", at least from what I could see.

Very eager to hear your thoughts, and those of others, on their experience
of End-Times, No-End-Times, Formal Breaks between sessions, etc. etc.

Thanks!
Harold

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:54 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
>
> lonely souls!
> Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
>
> Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space
> technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the
> spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably
> will never be.
> Here are some of my details:
>
> --- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30 Break
>
> --- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and
> in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts
> of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
>
> --- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a
> permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the
> closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable
> sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks
> after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from
> 11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a
> hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30
> to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small pieces
>
> --- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there is
> a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day
> (I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to
> hear more details, stories with this approach)
>
> Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as
> you might have heard, is a Law)
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> >>
> >
> > Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular
> > flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (“At a certain
> > time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free to
> > partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you’re doing.”) My
> > experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that it
> > will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them nervous.
> > By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it - and
> > meanwhile we have sessions (which is what I call them) ranging from 5
> > minutes to four and half hours, however much it truly needs.
> >
> > Juliane, thank you for being the first OS practitioner I’ve ever known
> > who also practices this way. I feel less lonely.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Gray
> >
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2019 Invocations

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thank you to everyone who took part in the conversation on Monday. We took
notes during our Part 1 WOSonOS 2019 Invocation which are accessible
through the event link at http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke1. Briefly, we
imagined pre-WOSonOS events. We explored the ineffable. We wondered about
awaking the kid in each of us.

Part 2 of the conversation happens tomorrow morning at
http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke2

- Sat Apri 13 - 7-9am edt (morning EDT). That will be 4am in the Pacific
Time Zone and it's unlikely I am the right people. Barry Owen has
registered and plans to be there. Please do take some notes and let us know
your thoughts.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 12:43 AM Harold Shinsato 
wrote:

> What do you want to have happen for the World Open Space on Open Space
> 2019, October 25-27 in Cherry Park Hill, Maryland in the Washington D.C.
> metropolitan area?
>
> What do you want to have happen in the Open Space community?
>
> What do you want to have happen, period? For yourself, your community,
> your world?
>
> You're invited, either via video/sound during two online events, or at any
> time, to participate in the dialog to invite a successful WOSonOS 2019.
>
> We'll be facilitating the dialog in Open Space. You are welcome to attend
> either or both.
>
> Part 1: http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke1 - Mon April 8 - 7-9pm edt
> (evening EDT)
> Part 2: http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke2 - Sat Apri 13 - 7-9am edt
> (morning EDT)
>
> If neither of these times work but you'd still like to help, you can also
> use either of the QIQO Chat links above to contribute to the dialog online
> at any time. Or feel free to post to the OSList or any board member via
> email.
>
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[OSList] WOSonOS 2019 Invocations

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

What do you want to have happen for the World Open Space on Open Space
2019, October 25-27 in Cherry Park Hill, Maryland in the Washington D.C.
metropolitan area?

What do you want to have happen in the Open Space community?

What do you want to have happen, period? For yourself, your community, your
world?

You're invited, either via video/sound during two online events, or at any
time, to participate in the dialog to invite a successful WOSonOS 2019.

We'll be facilitating the dialog in Open Space. You are welcome to attend
either or both.

Part 1: http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke1 - Mon April 8 - 7-9pm edt (evening
EDT)
Part 2: http://bit.ly/wosonos2019invoke2 - Sat Apri 13 - 7-9am edt (morning
EDT)

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[OSList] Morning reflections from Harrison Owen

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

We had a wonderful time in New York this month at International House at
Opening Space for Peace and High Performance. We enjoyed two wonderful
talks, one on Saturday morning and the other on Sunday morning, January 19
and 20. We hope you'll enjoy them!

https://youtu.be/M_6dPhwJqbI - Saturday
https://youtu.be/TXs0DXKfZyw - Sunday

Warm Regards,
 Harold
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Re: [OSList] Opening Space for Peace & High Performance and WOSonOS 2019 in the USA

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for asking about the dates and location for WOSonOS 2019 in the
Washington, D.C. general area. We are actively investigating options. The
preferred date is October 25-27, but until we secure everything, we can't
send out the registration. We hope it will come soon. We can't let it out
until it's in! We will as soon as we have it, believe it!

Regards,
Harold

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:51 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dear Harold,
>
> thanks for the good wishes, may the rest of 2019 be fortuitous and happy
> for you and me and whoever reads this.
>
> Every year for many years, I melancholically gaze at the invitation to
> the New York event... without going. This year again I will not be
> partaking, shucks!
>
> But, behold, here is what I definitely plan:
> WOSonOS 2019 in October in the Washington DC area.
> The travel Piggy Bank is set up.
>
> What really will help me to keep it in mind and focus on it is the DATES
> and, if available, the VENUE. I heard you are one of those in the know,
> right?
>
> Let it out!
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> Am 31.12.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList:
> > Happy New Year All!
> >
> > Hope you'll join us for our annual NYC Open Space at Columbia's
> > International House, just before MLK day, Jan 18-20.
> >
> > http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2019
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Harold
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[OSList] Jan 18-20 in NYC - Opening Space for Peace & High Performance

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Happy New Year All!

Hope you'll join us for our annual NYC Open Space at Columbia's
International House, just before MLK day, Jan 18-20.

http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2019

Warm Regards,
Harold
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Re: [OSList] Online Open Space - Tue 18 Dec - 6pm EST

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Just a reminder. We are meeting in a little over two hours from now at 6pm
eastern if you want to join us.

Regards,
Harold

-- Forwarded message -
From: Harold Shinsato 
Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:13 AM
Subject: Online Open Space - Tue 18 Dec - 6pm EST
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>


The Open Space Institute U.S. is holding it's annual member Open Space on
Tuesday December 18, from 6-8pm. We're using Zoom video again with
breakouts using Qiqochat like we did last year. All are welcome, not just
members.

As our theme - the question is "How are we holding space for Open Space
this past year and years to come?"

Use the link below to join. If you've never used Qiqochat before, I
recommend you try it at least a day before. As you'll need to set up an
account and you'll need to install Zoom.

http://bit.ly/osius2018

Warm Regards,
Harold
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[OSList] Online Open Space - Tue 18 Dec - 6pm EST

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

The Open Space Institute U.S. is holding it's annual member Open Space on
Tuesday December 18, from 6-8pm. We're using Zoom video again with
breakouts using Qiqochat like we did last year. All are welcome, not just
members.

As our theme - the question is "How are we holding space for Open Space
this past year and years to come?"

Use the link below to join. If you've never used Qiqochat before, I
recommend you try it at least a day before. As you'll need to set up an
account and you'll need to install Zoom.

http://bit.ly/osius2018

Warm Regards,
Harold
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[OSList] Welcoming WOSonOS 2019 to the U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

We are grateful that WOSonOS 2018 has accepted our hosting invitation to
Washington D.C. Most likely the second half of October.

I, Harold, am humbled and terrified, to have received the First Nations
talking stick as the symbol of the WOSonOS hosting and will keep it safe
until we hand it to the next host.

One of the biggest lessons is the facilitating Open Space, you hold the
participants lives in your hands. This is wisdom from Harrison.

Thank you to all our wonderful community,

Harold Shinsato
For the Open Space Institute U.S.
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[OSList] Help needed - survey design - State of OST

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Dear Open Space List,

The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has had as part of our mission to 
support research in Open Space. We have discussed research for years, 
but now we hope to initiate a research project and we are asking support 
from the community to help us design a survey to send out to Open Space 
practitioners around the world. A State of Open Space Technology survey. 
We hope this could be an annual survey.


Why a "State of Open Space Technology" survey?

Surveys are a helpful and inexpensive way to conduct research which has 
been validated by the sciences. So this is effectively a research 
project. It also helps us know ourselves in an interesting way. It can 
also help promote awareness about how Open Space Technology is being 
effectively used around the world, and hopefully spread that awareness 
beyond those who are already using it. The research can help make it 
safer for more people to open space.


Surveys as valid research?

We are basing this on the effective use of surveys in the technology 
world. The following two surveys have been an essential part of the 
process of both spreading the world and in helping promote 
self-awareness for adopters in the world of Agile Software Development. 
Specificially through the State of Agile survey hosted by VersionOne 
https://stateofagile.versionone.com, which has been happening for 13 
years, and more importantly through the State of DevOps survey 
(https://puppet.com/resources/whitepaper/state-of-devops-report). This 
State of DevOps survey was the topic of what Martin Fowler, one of the 
signatories of the Agile Manifesto, calls the most important book of 
2018. Namely, "Accelerate 
: 
The Science of Lean Software and DevOps". Accelerate's first author is 
social scientist Dr. Nicole Forsgren. The book has a chapter that helps 
validate the science behind effective survey design.


How can you help?

None of the OSI-US's Board hold PhD's that could help us effectively 
design a survey. But maybe you are. Or you know someone who might be. Or 
maybe you have contacts into a University setting. Although the OSI-US 
does not have a great deal of funds, we do have some and this would fit 
as a proper project. Will you let us know of any possible candidates 
that could help us design a survey?


Thanks in advance for your help!

    Regards,
    Harold Shinsato (on behalf of the Open Space Institute U.S.)
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Re: [OSList] List of participants ...

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Just got my flight last night. I’ll be there too.

-Harold

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:13 PM doug via OSList <
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> Michael--
>
> I'll be there.
>
> Doug. Germann
>
> On 09/28/2018 04:28 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
> > coming to the WOSonOS in Iceland is growing.
> > Found 15 folks from 4 countries so far.
> > The list shows the names sorted by country.
> > There are 8 from Netherlands, 1 from Sweden, 3 from Germany, 3 from
> > Iceland.
> > Please drop me a note if you are going to Iceland and want to be on this
> > list.
> > Right now would be perfect so that it would be complete next week.
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Re: [OSList] OST encourages avoidance of conflict

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Chris,

Thanks for giving more detail about Snowden's thinking. I didn't want to 
mention his name without a fuller context as you have provided. I also 
disagree with his assessment of OST as a convergence tool. I've not seen 
happiness come from trying to squeeze convergence out of an OST event.


I can't critique Snowden's disagreement with OST as an all purpose 
'tool', though for me I have found great value in Harrison's wisdom 
about Open Space as not being a tool. I see Open Space as something I 
feel I experience in most Open Space Technology events, but they're not 
really the same thing. Given that distinction, "Open some space" does 
seem a valid all purpose approach. Even if that doesn't necessarily look 
like a formal Open Space Technology event.


    Harold

On 1/30/18 4:44 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
The well known management guru is David Snowden and his principle 
criticism against OST is the same as it is for every other method. It 
is not a panacea for every problem.


More specifically, Dave’s issue as I understand it, is that groups 
operate within constraints. There are times when those constraints 
need to be tightly bound in order for things to happen and other times 
when they need to be relaxed.


In situations in which you are developing new things conflict and 
diversity are helpful. Sometimes it helps to have a process in which 
people of differing perspectives are engaged in a tight container 
together to make something better. Open Space does not always do this, 
so if you need a required level of diversity (and conflict doesn’t 
always mean a fight) then OST might not be the best way to do it.


I agree with this. Sometimes you need a formal negotiation structure 
to reach a decision. Sometimes you need expert opinions engaged in a 
deliberated and structured and way to do due diligence.


Dave has other concerns with Open Space that I think he’s wrong about 
(that it is a convergence process for example) and I’ve talked with 
him extensively about that. But anyone who think that Dave believes 
Open Space doesn’t have utility is also wrong. He believes that it’s 
useful for certain things in certain contexts and not in others. On 
that we all agree, I would think.


Chris.

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On Jan 30, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
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Daniel,

Interesting concern. I think I remember hearing this from a well 
respected management guru as a critique of Open Space. I can't help 
but wonder the following:


- How well do individual adults resolve conflicts when an authority 
figure forces them?
- How well do conflicting peoples or tribal communities resolve 
conflicts when they are forcibly held together by an imperial force 
(think Rome, USSR, pre-partition India, etc etc etc)


If you are dealing with children or developmentally challenged 
individuals - especially those who have violated others rights are 
are in prison - I can imagine there being some value to some level of 
compulsion or coercion here. But even there, it may temporarily 
resolve the fighting and damage, but not the children's growth.


If you are dealing with severe human rights being violated in tribal 
scenarios, I can see how that might justify gunboat diplomacy. But I 
can't imagine the tribal system will evolve to respect human rights 
without a huge additional investment from the gunboat diplomats. And 
it is all too likely that such interference may not only cause even 
bigger problems later on, but can also encourage exploitation of the 
less developed tribe/community.


Thanks for asking this question!

    Harold


On 1/30/18 2:07 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:


I am hearing this pointed criticism from some quarters: That OST 
actually encourages conflict-avoidance via the Law of 2 Feet. In 
other words, people who need to be resolving conflict (or at least 
discussing it) can just avoid the touchy topic... and each other.


Could this actually be true? If not why not?


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[OSList] Thank you Suzanne (the movie) !!!

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

We love you Suzanne Daigle!

Linda Stevenson, Tricia Chirumbole, Karen Davis, Kevin O'Brien, Mark 
Sheffield & I recorded a short video to thank Suzanne for all her work 
as a member of the Board of the Open Space Institute of the U.S.


We had a lot of fun making it. We showed it to those of you who came to 
our Annual Membership online Open Space last December, and I promised my 
fellow board members that I would embarrass Suzanne yet again by sharing 
this with the OSList.


The video is a kind of Karaoke on top of "We are the World" that we 
re-wrote as "We are Open Space". The music is shown over the beautiful 
graphic recording work of April Doner.


If you want to see the short version (2.5 minutes) go here:

https://youtu.be/73i0-2s0laI

You won't miss any of our singing with the short version, but if you 
really want to absorb April Doner's beautiful artwork, which is where we 
illustrate Suzanne's contributions, watch the extended cut (6.5 minutes) 
which you can enjoy here:


https://youtu.be/iIfJIRFdhp0

And it hadn't happened yet, so it's not in the video, but thank you 
Suzanne for helping the 2018 Opening Space for Peace and High 
Performance in New York this month being so awesome!


    Blessings!
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] OST encourages avoidance of conflict

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Daniel,

Interesting concern. I think I remember hearing this from a well 
respected management guru as a critique of Open Space. I can't help but 
wonder the following:


- How well do individual adults resolve conflicts when an authority 
figure forces them?
- How well do conflicting peoples or tribal communities resolve 
conflicts when they are forcibly held together by an imperial force 
(think Rome, USSR, pre-partition India, etc etc etc)


If you are dealing with children or developmentally challenged 
individuals - especially those who have violated others rights are are 
in prison - I can imagine there being some value to some level of 
compulsion or coercion here. But even there, it may temporarily resolve 
the fighting and damage, but not the children's growth.


If you are dealing with severe human rights being violated in tribal 
scenarios, I can see how that might justify gunboat diplomacy. But I 
can't imagine the tribal system will evolve to respect human rights 
without a huge additional investment from the gunboat diplomats. And it 
is all too likely that such interference may not only cause even bigger 
problems later on, but can also encourage exploitation of the less 
developed tribe/community.


Thanks for asking this question!

    Harold


On 1/30/18 2:07 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:


I am hearing this pointed criticism from some quarters: That OST 
actually encourages conflict-avoidance via the Law of 2 Feet. In other 
words, people who need to be resolving conflict (or at least 
discussing it) can just avoid the touchy topic... and each other.


Could this actually be true? If not why not?


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(203) 915 7248. Bio.  Blog. 
 Twitter. 


Book: The Culture Game. 
Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook. 
 




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Re: [OSList] OSI-US 2017 Members & Beyond Meeting 11 Dec 2017

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Reminder: The Open Space Institute U.S. Members & Beyond Open Space is 
happening in 15 minutes.


https://qiqochat.com/e/yYYXKvjwyrYbqeEHgeZxRHdbY/dOdqNOUybJUIcitXiTdZYBjiF 
 



    Regards,
    Harold

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: OSI-US 2017 Members & Beyond Meeting 11 Dec 2017
Date:   Mon, 27 Nov 2017 15:34:43 -0700
From:   Harold Shinsato 
To: OSLIST 



Thanks to the generosity of Lucas Cioffi we have an Open Space video 
platform via qiqochat.com which has been used for Open Space online with 
video and support for notes/proceedings generation in the past.


To join us for the Open Space Institute meeting, register with the link 
below before the event, and then come back to the link on December 11, 
2017 - 6-8pm Eastern.


https://qiqochat.com/e/yYYXKvjwyrYbqeEHgeZxRHdbY/dOdqNOUybJUIcitXiTdZYBjiF 



    Thanks!
    Harold

On 11/25/17 5:01 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

Dear Open Space List,

The Open Space Institute - U.S. has been "holding space for open 
space" since 1996. We're holding our annual meeting online again this 
year, and we'll hold the meeting as a short 2 hour Open Space. The 
meeting will be December 11, 2017, from 6-8pm Eastern. A participation 
link is coming, but we wanted everyone to know the time and date in 
advance. Everyone is welcome, members and beyond. Hope you'll join us!


You can learn more about the OSI-US at our website, http://osius.org. 
Among other projects, we host the OSList, the OSHotline, and we're the 
hosting organization for the annual Peace and High Performance event 
and most of the Board will be there 
(http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2018).


    Regards,
    Harold




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Re: [OSList] OSI-US 2017 Members & Beyond Meeting 11 Dec 2017

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Just a reminder - in 30 minutes we're kicking off 2 hours of Open Space 
online using Zoom video through qiqochat to enable the law of two feet 
and proceedings.


https://qiqochat.com/e/yYYXKvjwyrYbqeEHgeZxRHdbY/dOdqNOUybJUIcitXiTdZYBjiF 
<https://qiqochat.com/e/yYYXKvjwyrYbqeEHgeZxRHdbY/dOdqNOUybJUIcitXiTdZYBjiF>


    Cheers!
    Harold

On 11/28/17 4:55 AM, Suzanne Daigle wrote:
Thank you Harold!  I'll be there on the 11th. Looking forward to it! 
Registered on QiQoChat.


Suzanne

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
<mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:


Dear Open Space List,

The Open Space Institute - U.S. has been "holding space for open
space" since 1996. We're holding our annual meeting online again
this year, and we'll hold the meeting as a short 2 hour Open
Space. The meeting will be December 11, 2017, from 6-8pm Eastern.
A participation link is coming, but we wanted everyone to know the
time and date in advance. Everyone is welcome, members and beyond.
Hope you'll join us!

You can learn more about the OSI-US at our website,
http://osius.org. Among other projects, we host the OSList, the
OSHotline, and we're the hosting organization for the annual Peace
and High Performance event and most of the Board will be there
(http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2018
<http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2018>).

    Regards,
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] OSI-US 2017 Members & Beyond Meeting 11 Dec 2017

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thanks to the generosity of Lucas Cioffi we have an Open Space video 
platform via qiqochat.com which has been used for Open Space online with 
video and support for notes/proceedings generation in the past.


To join us for the Open Space Institute meeting, register with the link 
below before the event, and then come back to the link on December 11, 
2017 - 6-8pm Eastern.


https://qiqochat.com/e/yYYXKvjwyrYbqeEHgeZxRHdbY/dOdqNOUybJUIcitXiTdZYBjiF 



    Thanks!
    Harold

On 11/25/17 5:01 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

Dear Open Space List,

The Open Space Institute - U.S. has been "holding space for open 
space" since 1996. We're holding our annual meeting online again this 
year, and we'll hold the meeting as a short 2 hour Open Space. The 
meeting will be December 11, 2017, from 6-8pm Eastern. A participation 
link is coming, but we wanted everyone to know the time and date in 
advance. Everyone is welcome, members and beyond. Hope you'll join us!


You can learn more about the OSI-US at our website, http://osius.org. 
Among other projects, we host the OSList, the OSHotline, and we're the 
hosting organization for the annual Peace and High Performance event 
and most of the Board will be there 
(http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2018).


    Regards,
    Harold




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[OSList] OSI-US 2017 Members & Beyond Meeting 11 Dec 2017

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Open Space List,

The Open Space Institute - U.S. has been "holding space for open space" 
since 1996. We're holding our annual meeting online again this year, and 
we'll hold the meeting as a short 2 hour Open Space. The meeting will be 
December 11, 2017, from 6-8pm Eastern. A participation link is coming, 
but we wanted everyone to know the time and date in advance. Everyone is 
welcome, members and beyond. Hope you'll join us!


You can learn more about the OSI-US at our website, http://osius.org. 
Among other projects, we host the OSList, the OSHotline, and we're the 
hosting organization for the annual Peace and High Performance event and 
most of the Board will be there 
(http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2018).


    Regards,
    Harold

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Re: [OSList] OS design questions

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thanks for that report Diana. My first foray into Open Space I set up an 
online system to allow folks to propose (but not commit) to topics. Very 
few of those early proposals were actually convened the actual day of 
the OST, same as Diana reported. I stopped doing that after my second event.


When I've seen session time/space allowed to be scheduled more than a 
day in advance, both for technology unconferences and for multiple day 
Open Space events, my experience is that people are much less present to 
what is alive in the moment. People pay less attention to each other. 
The session proposals revert to a more standard conference style, with 
more prepared presentations. More self promotion. Less group coherence 
fostered. Less Open Space.


What I've see is that it works much better to leave the marketplace 
time/location blank before the morning openings, even for multiple day 
open space events. And it also helps to make sure everyone knows we will 
make more meeting locations for their topics so they don't panic and 
rush to fill the first slots or give up when the market place seems full.


I've seen the holding space method work. That might diffuse the pressure 
a little. Though my experience is it still works best, as Harrison 
reports, if the wall is completely blank each morning.


    Regards,
    Harold

On 9/17/17 11:09 AM, Diana Larsen via OSList wrote:

Hi Jean,

No advice. Just a story.

Last week I opened space for a group that decided (reasons) to limit 
hosts to their one most "passion/responsibility" topic per day on the 
marketplace. Some folks were sure they'd want more and others had new 
topics that emerged that they wanted to remember for the second day.


We accommodated their concern by giving it a space. By the end of the 
day about a dozen topics had been posted into a "holding space" to the 
side of the marketplace on the same wall.


The next morning when we had morning announcements of the new topics 
for the 2nd day, only three of the twelve were moved and scheduled 
with time/room stickies on the new day marketplace. When I asked about 
the remainders, people said: - they'd changed their minds because 
something seemed more compelling now; - the person who'd proposed it 
was actually asking someone else to take responsibility who didn't 
want it; - the person who posted it couldn't come back for the second 
day; - etc.


That was just one of the "be prepared to be surprised" moments I 
experienced in that event.


So, the answer to the question about "what's most important for your 
learning right now" seems to morph even more quickly than we might 
expect! Overnight (!) things that were "too important to leave out" 
can fade and other needs take precedence.


Diana

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On Sep 17, 2017, at 09:23, Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
> wrote:


Instead of the Marketplace you could simply have an ideas wall, and 
anyone who has an idea for a session the next day could stick it up 
there without any feeling of commitment.


Then the next day open the Marketplace with the usual blank wall, 
remind people that today is a new day and all are free to do what 
they want, remind them to check out the wall of ideas from yesterday 
if they want to... and then business as usual...


OR offer 15min to browse the ideas wall... then rip all the ideas 
down, throw them in the bin, and start the Open Space!


And why are you limiting the number of spaces/sessions in an Open Space?

On 16 September 2017 at 21:32, Jean Richardson via OSList 
> wrote:


Thank you.  Yes, I would do an opening.

One of the things that concerns me is that the whole Marketplace
could fill before the opening.  I could have them take down their
topics and describe them, but I guess I’m concerned about lack of
spontaneity and whether that would have a negative impact on the
experience.

--- Jean

*From:* Chris Corrigan [mailto:chris.corri...@gmail.com
]
*Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:18 AM
*To:* Jean Richardson >; World wide Open Space Technology
email list >
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] OS design questions

Yes. The only issue with a large conference is that people often
forgot what they posted, when and where and so on. In my
experience You still need to do an opening if you want everyone
to be really ground in their responsibility.

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On Sep 16, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Jean Richardson via OSList
> wrote:

Yesterday I 

Re: [OSList] fifth principle

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear Open Space People,

Hopefully the timing for this question is not inappropriate given how 
Nature is creating open space all over in rather forceful ways. But 
maybe this would be a useful diversion from watching the path of Irma.


I've really enjoyed using the fifth principle and believe it is very 
helpful especially helping people realize that they are not confined to 
meeting and scheduling meetings in the allocated time slots, and to 
extend the boundaries of Open Space where they belong - whenever, wherever!


I've only just seen that there are actually two phrasings. I've been 
using Anna Caroline Türk's phrasing which I think fits the rest better.


*Wherever it happens is the right place.*

But the original email 
(http://lists.openspacetech.org/htdig.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org/2011-May/489573.html) 
from Harrison Owen phrases it:


*Wherever it is, is the right place.*

I'm thinking maybe there is deeper poetry in Harrison's phrasing and 
that I will revert to that in the future. But I do love how Anna put it.


What do you all use for the fifth principle?

    Thank you and Warm Regards!
    Harold

On 12/17/11 10:16 AM, Anna Caroline Türk wrote:

Dear all!

this year we talked and shared our insights about the fifth principle: 
wherever it happens  – it is the right place. I like the 5th principle 
a lot!
On the German List the topic just popped up again. That's why I feel 
inspired to share my gained insights with you all.


My interpretation goes like this:

Wherever it happens is the right place...
it can be at this meeting today, it can be in your city, in your 
country, (on Tahir Square) ...

or simply in your mind/brain/head and heart.
be prepared to be surprised!

wherever it happens is the right place!

much Love
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[OSList] Open Space online community numbers

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Membership in the Open Space online communities over time. Please let me 
know of other online forums about Open Space.


5 Sep 2017
- 778 (-21) on OSList
- 2511 (+58) on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/7189220743
- 1826 (-39) on LinkedIn 
https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home==81286
- 270 (+4) on Yahoo (in German) 
https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/openspacedeutsch/info
- 98 (+2) on Google Communities 
https://plus.google.com/communities/110300043386868957320


21 Jun 2016
- 799 (+22) on OSList
- 2453 (+87) on Facebook
- 1865 (+32) on LinkedIn
- 266 on Yahoo (in German) openspacedeutsch 
https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/openspacedeutsch/info

- 96 (+20) on Google Plus
- OpenSpaceWorld Ning was decommissioned

31 May 2015
- 777(-1) people on OSList
- 2366(+155) on FB
- 1803(+91) on LinkedIn
- 819(+6) people on Open Space World Ning community
- 76(+19) people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Community

16 December 2014
- 778(-9) people on OSList
- 2211(+194) on FB
- 1712(+70) on LinkedIn
- 813(+12) people on Open Space World Ning community
- 57(+8) people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle

11 August 2014
- 787 people on OSList
- 2017 people on Facebook Open Space Technology group - 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7189220743
- 1642 people on LinkedIn Open Space Technology group - 
https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home==81286
- 801 people on Open Space World Ning community - 
http://openspaceworld.ning.com/
- 49 people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle - 
https://plus.google.com/stream/circles/p70fe5c7a8a52f291





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Re: [OSList] Open Space and Introverts

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Hi Ron,

I have encountered this opinion and agree that although it definitely is
not categorically true.

Im also introverted and not just slightly. I myself found personal
salvation in the control of my own engagement that I as an introvert really
need to thrive. If anything, open space can be even more beneficial for
introverts than others.

And it is also true that OST can be very difficult for introverts. And I
have had an extreme introverts flee my OST event once. And I have had
extroverts tell me we introverts don't like OST.

I love the question you raise. I have definitely enjoyed some OST events
more than others.

I look forward to others thoughts.

Harold



On Aug 26, 2017 12:19 PM, "Ron Quartel via OSList" <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> I had an interesting chat a few days ago with someone that identifies as
> an introvert. They made this statement which has me somewhat confused and
> perplexed - "Introverts do not like Open Space".
>
> Now - I know that for the broadest definition of an introvert that is not
> true. Because I myself am an introvert and I love Open Space. Like all
> mental categories, introversion I assume is on a scale. So perhaps a better
> statement from this individual may have been - for more extreme introverts,
> Open Space can be uncomfortable and is not viewed as a safe environment for
> me to express myself. (I need to run this statement by said individual to
> see if they can confirm if this statement better represents their
> intention.)
>
> Is this indeed true however? It is at least for one person I know. So my
> questions are:
> - has anyone else encountered this opinion?
> - If so, what percentage of the average population do you think would feel
> this way?
> - Is there anything we can do to make these extreme introverts to feel
> comfortable and safe to share?
>
> Any thoughts and advice appreciated.
>
> Ron Quartel
>
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[OSList] Automated vacation emails

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Dear OSList,

It seems most automated systems are smart enough not to reply to lists, 
but every now and then it happens again. And it happened again a few 
hours ago.


Just so you know, I have turned on moderation for their account so that 
automated vacation notices won't go through anymore.


If you are going on vacation and turn on some kind of automated emails, 
would you see if you could turn them off for the OSList?


Warm Regards!
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[OSList] THIS SUNDAY: Online Open Space on OpenSpace Agility (OOSoOSA)

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We're holding an Online Open Space on OpenSpace Agility.

?OOSoOSA?  ( pronounced u - su' - s ə )

The theme? Who/What/Where/How - Open Space with/around/under/over/inside 
Agile


Or something like that.

When? Sunday 3-4:30pm EDT (9-10:30pm CEST)
Where? Online (Zoom)

If you're interested in playing - you can sign up for the event on 
Facebook here:


https://www.facebook.com/events/138850529975219/permalink/140292439831028/

If the link doesn't work, or you despise/avoid/freak-out-about Facebook 
- I salute you. And you can email me at har...@shinsato.com and I'll 
save a space for you and forward connection details.


Happy Spring!
Harold

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Re: [OSList] Research OST

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Hi Hege,

I'm in correspondence with professor Emma Bell who is currently 
researching Open Space in the context of the "Unconference" movement, 
and she and her associate in the U.K. are doing some ongoing research in 
this area. I have an early copy of their research. I'll let you know if 
there is an update of when there will be something that can be shared 
more broadly.


One book that might be interesting for academic research into Open Space 
is the use of Game Theory to think about the value of circle processes. 
The book is called Ratual Ritual: Culture, Coordination, and Common 
Knowledge, by Michael Suk-Young Chwe who teaches game theory at the 
political science department of UCLA. (Thank you to Daniel Mezick for 
finding this book!)


https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Ritual-Culture-Coordination-Knowledge/dp/0691114714

Emma found that the research is limited for Open Space. But there is a 
non-trivial amount that has been compiled by the community in the past 
here: http://openspaceworld.org/wp2/explore/open-space-research/


Regards,
Harold

On 2/22/17 8:54 AM, Hege Steinsland via OSList wrote:

Hello.
I`m working on an article about the experience with OST in Norwegian work- 
places, in particular municipalities.
I wonder if there are som kind of overview of earlier research on the field, 
published and unpublished

Would be great :-)

All the best
Hege Steinsland
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[OSList] Micro OST online (with Zoom)

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We had a great time January 31 and we're trying it again tomorrow 
starting 7pm pacific.


It seems to work doing a short open space (under 2 hours) using Zoom.us 
- which is quite inexpensive. Come see how it works if you want. It's 
really not about code - Agile is about People - and last time one of the 
sessions was a few sentence at a time improvised stories. But who knows 
what's coming tomorrow:


https://www.eventbrite.com/e/nurturing-agility-with-open-space-tickets-30877475360

   Harold

On 1/30/17 11:36 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:
Jon Jorgensen and I are experimenting with an inexpensive online Open 
Space where we'll be investigating the use of Open Space to nurture 
organizational agility. Tomorrow evening (7-9pm pacific). It should 
also show how to do inexpensive online open spaces, as well as getting 
to hold a group inquiry about Open Space.




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[OSList] 2 hour online OST tomorrow: How to Nurture Agility with Open Space?

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Jon Jorgensen and I are experimenting with an inexpensive online Open 
Space where we'll be investigating the use of Open Space to nurture 
organizational agility. Tomorrow evening (7-9pm pacific). It should also 
show how to do inexpensive online open spaces, as well as getting to 
hold a group inquiry about Open Space. Learn more here...


https://www.meetup.com/LeanKanban/events/236489317/

Harold

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Re: [OSList] Opening Space for Peace & High Performance 2017

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Just a reminder for the Opening Space for Peace & High Performance in 
NYC - 1/13-15.


Yes, whoever comes, and whatever happens, but Harrison Owen is 
registered and he has given a couple amazing short talks every time I've 
attended. Priceless!


http://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2017

Regards,
Harold

On 11/17/16 2:32 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:
Opening Space for Peace & High Performance in NYC is happening, as 
usual, just before the Martin Luther King holiday.


January 13-15, 2017, in Manhattan in the International House.

*You are invited* to learn, experience and apply the age-old force of 
self-organization as we individually and collectively engage, explore 
and deepen our understanding and practice of Open Space Technology 
around this call to action:


“Opening Space Everywhere and Anywhere -
The Time is Now”

https://www.facebook.com/events/127247154423320/

The above link is our event on Facebook. Saying you are going through 
Facebook will help spread the word. If you don't do Facebook, the 
event link is here .


Thanks!
Harold

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Re: [OSList] Dec 12: How to Open Space Whenever Whoever Wherever?

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A gentle reminder - if you want to participate in this video or voice 
conversation tomorrow - here's the details.


Thanks!
Harold

On 11/30/16 1:27 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

How to Open Space *Whenever Whoever Wherever*?

All members of the Open Space Institute - U.S., and any one interested 
in joining the conversation, are invited to inquire together "How to 
Open Space Whenever Whoever Wherever?"


This is also the Open Space Institute's annual membership meeting. We 
can explore what's possible together for the collective collaboratory 
that is the OSI-US. Law of Mobility Applies. Whoever Comes. Arrive and 
Depart when/as you will.


December 12, 2016
4:00 - 5:30pm Eastern Standard Time

We'll meet via Zoom and breakouts if needed:

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/562128743

Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll):  +14086380968,562128743# or 
+16465588656,562128743#


Or Telephone:
Dial: +1 408 638 0968 (US Toll) or +1 646 558 8656 (US Toll)
Meeting ID: 562 128 743
International numbers available: 
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Re: [OSList] What's so great about Open Space?

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Thank you so much Agustín!

I've uploaded it to the Institute's YouTube channel here: 
https://youtu.be/LnKakAKHKno


Agustín, will you give me a URL for yourself that I can put in the 
description? And if you would be willing to translate the description, 
I'll add it before the English version.


We've had a few more uploads the last few days, for a total of 9 videos 
from the following (I added a little description for non-OSList'ers).


Anne Stadler
Suzanne Daigle
Richard Dolman
Kate Megaw
Diana Larsen
Tricia Chirumbole
Paul Levy
Agustín Jiménez
Julie Bright

The above short Open Space testimonial video's have been gathered in a 
single playlist, here:


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeOPwaXD8NNWW6n6wTzuOZYY9RmK6QJjp

We are still receiving video's through our "What's so great" program. 
You can learn more here:


http://osius.org/content/videos-requested-whats-so-great-about-open-space-technology

Happy December!
Harold

P.S. I would enjoy to make a separate Spanish only playlist once we get 
more than one Spanish language video. And any other language for that 
matter.


On 12/4/16 9:31 AM, agusj wrote:

Hello Harold and Suzanne!

Please find in the followiing link my video about "What so great about 
OST" in Spanish.


https://cauac.box.com/s/xjq1ogzahyv1ojtqtuqywp4yga2dopc8

Regards,

Agustín



*From:* Harold Shinsato 
*To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list 
; Agustín Jiménez 

*Cc:* Suzanne Daigle 
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 1, 2016 5:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] What's so great about Open Space?

Hi Augustin,
The OSI-US will be more than happy to host Spanish answers to "What's 
so great about OST?"

In fact, we'd love to host them in any language.
I'd only request you translate the 'what's so great...' question for 
me in text form.

Muchas Gracias!
Harold Shinsato
@hajush http://shinsato.com 
Sent from a phone with tiny screen.

On Oct 29, 2016 8:50 AM, "Agustín Jiménez via OSList" 
> wrote:


Hello,

I fine this project really terrific! Following the idea, I would
like to invite the OST Spanish community to replicate this project
in Spanish. What do you think?

Regards,

Agustin

Enviado desde mi iPad

El 24/10/2016, a las 10:28 a.m., Suzanne Daigle via OSList
> escribió:


If you haven't seen it yet. If you haven't considered it yet. I'd
say please do!!!

OSI US has initiated a terrific project. (**Thank you for
conceiving the idea: To create a 2 minute video where you can
describe "What's so great about Open Space?")

I've never felt comfortable watching myself on video, let alone
doing a video of myself. But my passion and appreciation for the
gift of Open Space in my life was bigger than my fear so I just
jumped in. Still feel a bit dorky about it but did it. Which then
led me to try with Michael Herman to invite folks for the
upcoming Virtual World Open Space in Manila.

How wonderful it would be to have the voices and images of people
around the world sharing in this way. I can even imagine a
special session in Manila to listen to them all.


Please visit the OSI US website for instructions and to see the 4
short clips that are posted there now. Each with their own flavor
and spirit.
http://www.osius.org 

And if you haven't done so already, consider joining the folks in
Manila and beyond for a virtual taste of the World Open Space on
Open Space. openspace.qiqochat.com
. For the price of a few cups of
coffee and some muffins, you could be part of a vibrant history
being created minute by minute. I'm sure our wonderful Filipino
hosts would be thrilled to feel your presence.


Suzanne


Suzanne Daigle
Open Space Facilitator
NuFocus Strategic Group

FL 941-359-8877
Cell: 203-722-2009
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Re: [OSList] Open Space undermined?

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I appreciate your take on this Birgitt. It seems good news that this topic
is getting attention. And the abstract did affirm that it made some impact
in the desired direction.

It would be interesting to see the nature of the assessment and how it was
structured. Given that Wikipedia says the source of unconferences is OST,
it is disconcerting that OST is *not* referenced in the abstract. And it is
also disconcertificate the lack of awareness that unconferences and camps
have liberating structures.

Thank you Andi for posting. I too am interested in the source. I found this
event poster for her talk this past May.

http://www.mba.ucy.ac.cy/images/media/file/Dr_%20Emma%20Bell%20from%20Keely%20University.pdf

Professor Bell and her research sounds very interesting from her bio on the
poster!

Harold Shinsato


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On Dec 1, 2016 5:01 PM, "Birgitt Williams via OSList" <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> I actually thought this was good news. The fact that even an unconference
> ie: OS rather than OST creates the conditions for more equal
> participation...at least during the meeting and maybe with some longer term
> impact. I tend towards optimism...maybe I am reading more into this than is
> there.
>
> Birgitt
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:16 PM HENRI LIPMANOWICZ  wrote:
>
>> I am surprised that the author of this research considers that
>> unconferences are characterized by a “distinct lack of structure”!
>> OST has a very clear and precise structure; it may be minimal but it is
>> exquisitely minimal which is why it is so powerful and effective.
>> Reminds me of when I was a kid and my music teacher considered that jazz
>> was not “real music" 
>>
>> Henri
>>
>> *To browse the LS Book just click *here
>> 
>>
>> *Find it here  *The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures; Simple
>> Rules to Unleash a Culture of Innovation
>> 
>>
>>
>> *Visit *http://www.liberatingstructures.com *and transform the
>> performance of any group*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andi,
>> source paper would be very much appreciated. Thank you for digging to
>> find it and for sharing this. I very much hope she cites OST particularly.
>> Warmly,
>> Birgitt
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:12 PM Andi Roberts via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> The following popped up on an email today at a University I work with and
>> I thought that the research might be of interest to this group. I am unable
>> to attend the session, due to prior work commitments, but will try and dig
>> up the source paper.
>>
>> Unstructured Meeting Organisation in Open Source Communities
>>
>> Professor Emma Bell, Professor of Management and Organisation Studies,
>> Keele University, will be presenting at the next DPO seminar on Wednesday,
>> 7 December, at 14:00, in Meeting Rooms 3 - 4 in the Michael Young Building.
>>
>> *Abstract:*
>>
>> In this paper we focus on the organisation of ‘unconferences’, an
>> umbrella term that refers to a range of off-site meeting formats where
>> there an explicit attempt to break down social hierarchies and develop
>> organic forms of organization (Burns and Stalker, 1961).  Also referred to
>> as ‘camps’, unconferences have no pre-set agenda, are designed to be
>> participant driven (Wolf et al., 2011), and are characterised by a
>> ‘distinct lack of structure’ (Boule, 2011: 17).  Drawing on a qualitative
>> study of unconferences aimed at managers and management consultants, we
>> assess the extent to which unconferencing enables the hierarchical power
>> relations that characterise conventional off-site meeting organisation to
>> be overcome (Bell and King, 2010; Ford and Harding, 2008).  We find that
>> unconferences go some way towards addressing interactional and performative
>> dynamics that contribute towards unequal participation and exclusion in
>> off-site meeting encounters. However, our analysis also highlights the
>> powerful behavioural norms and group dynamics associated with off-site
>> meetings which can result in these attempts at openness and sharing being
>> undermined.
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Andi Roberts
>>
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[OSList] Dec 12: How to Open Space Whenever Whoever Wherever?

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How to Open Space *Whenever Whoever Wherever*?

All members of the Open Space Institute - U.S., and any one interested 
in joining the conversation, are invited to inquire together "How to 
Open Space Whenever Whoever Wherever?"


This is also the Open Space Institute's annual membership meeting. We 
can explore what's possible together for the collective collaboratory 
that is the OSI-US. Law of Mobility Applies. Whoever Comes. Arrive and 
Depart when/as you will.


December 12, 2016
4:00 - 5:30pm Eastern Standard Time

We'll meet via Zoom and breakouts if needed:

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/562128743

Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll):  +14086380968,562128743# or 
+16465588656,562128743#


Or Telephone:
Dial: +1 408 638 0968 (US Toll) or +1 646 558 8656 (US Toll)
Meeting ID: 562 128 743
International numbers available: 
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[OSList] Opening Space for Peace & High Performance 2017

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Opening Space for Peace & High Performance in NYC is happening, as 
usual, just before the Martin Luther King holiday.


January 13-15, 2017, in Manhattan in the International House.

*You are invited* to learn, experience and apply the age-old force of 
self-organization as we individually and collectively engage, explore 
and deepen our understanding and practice of Open Space Technology 
around this call to action:


“Opening Space Everywhere and Anywhere -
The Time is Now”

https://www.facebook.com/events/127247154423320/

The above link is our event on Facebook. Saying you are going through 
Facebook will help spread the word. If you don't do Facebook, the event 
link is here .


Thanks!
Harold

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Re: [OSList] What's so great about Open Space?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Augustin,

The OSI-US will be more than happy to host Spanish answers to "What's so
great about OST?"

In fact, we'd love to host them in any language.

I'd only request you translate the 'what's so great...' question for me in
text form.

Muchas Gracias!

Harold Shinsato
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On Oct 29, 2016 8:50 AM, "Agustín Jiménez via OSList" <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I fine this project really terrific! Following the idea, I would like to
> invite the OST Spanish community to replicate this project in Spanish. What
> do you think?
>
> Regards,
>
> Agustin
>
> Enviado desde mi iPad
>
> El 24/10/2016, a las 10:28 a.m., Suzanne Daigle via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> escribió:
>
> If you haven't seen it yet. If you haven't considered it yet. I'd say
> please do!!!
>
> OSI US has initiated a terrific project. (**Thank you for conceiving the
> idea: To create a 2 minute video where you can describe "What's so great
> about Open Space?")
>
> I've never felt comfortable watching myself on video, let alone doing a
> video of myself. But my passion and appreciation for the gift of Open Space
> in my life was bigger than my fear so I just jumped in. Still feel a bit
> dorky about it but did it. Which then led me to try with Michael Herman to
> invite folks for the upcoming Virtual World Open Space in Manila.
>
> How wonderful it would be to have the voices and images of people around
> the world sharing in this way. I can even imagine a special session in
> Manila to listen to them all.
>
>
> Please visit the OSI US website for instructions and to see the 4 short
> clips that are posted there now. Each with their own flavor and spirit.
> http://www.osius.org
>
> And if you haven't done so already, consider joining the folks in Manila
> and beyond for a virtual taste of the World Open Space on Open Space.
> openspace.qiqochat.com. For the price of a few cups of coffee and some
> muffins, you could be part of a vibrant history being created minute by
> minute. I'm sure our wonderful Filipino hosts would be thrilled to feel
> your presence.
>
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> Suzanne Daigle
> Open Space Facilitator
> NuFocus Strategic Group
>
> FL 941-359-8877
> Cell: 203-722-2009
> www.nufocusgroup.com
> s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com
> Twitter @Daiglesuz
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Re: [OSList] What's so great about Open Space?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thank you, Suzanne! We actually have five videos published and three more
recorded that need to be published.

You can find the channel here:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCBzRRCG8bDms7r1FtUAtzIQ

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On Oct 24, 2016 11:28 AM, "Suzanne Daigle via OSList" <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> If you haven't seen it yet. If you haven't considered it yet. I'd say
> please do!!!
>
> OSI US has initiated a terrific project. (**Thank you for conceiving the
> idea: To create a 2 minute video where you can describe "What's so great
> about Open Space?")
>
> I've never felt comfortable watching myself on video, let alone doing a
> video of myself. But my passion and appreciation for the gift of Open Space
> in my life was bigger than my fear so I just jumped in. Still feel a bit
> dorky about it but did it. Which then led me to try with Michael Herman to
> invite folks for the upcoming Virtual World Open Space in Manila.
>
> How wonderful it would be to have the voices and images of people around
> the world sharing in this way. I can even imagine a special session in
> Manila to listen to them all.
>
>
> Please visit the OSI US website for instructions and to see the 4 short
> clips that are posted there now. Each with their own flavor and spirit.
> http://www.osius.org
>
> And if you haven't done so already, consider joining the folks in Manila
> and beyond for a virtual taste of the World Open Space on Open Space.
> openspace.qiqochat.com. For the price of a few cups of coffee and some
> muffins, you could be part of a vibrant history being created minute by
> minute. I'm sure our wonderful Filipino hosts would be thrilled to feel
> your presence.
>
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> Suzanne Daigle
> Open Space Facilitator
> NuFocus Strategic Group
>
> FL 941-359-8877
> Cell: 203-722-2009
> www.nufocusgroup.com
> s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com
> Twitter @Daiglesuz
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Re: [OSList] how's John in Haiti?

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John wrote of surviving being shot at by robbers in Haiti earlier today on
facebook. He is ok. He was not hit by bullets, only broken glass. I write
so that those that respect and care for him can send good thoughts to him,
his family, and all that love him.

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On Oct 7, 2016 1:47 PM, "doug via OSList" 
wrote:

> John and Jeff--
>
> Good to hear, for sure! At least some good news from Haiti. What a thing!
>
> :- Doug.
>
> On 10/07/2016 04:11 PM, John Engle wrote:
>
>> Doin well thanks.
>>
>> Busy.
>>
>> Have also recently been contracted by USAID to facilitate 6 open space
>> around the country to invite input into USAID's 5 year Haiti strategy.
>>
>> A very significant opportunity even before hurricane Matthew. That much
>> more relevant post hurricane devastation.
>>
>> I'm doing several Facebook updates a day.
>>
>>
>>  And of course, donations welcome ; ) (Thank you Harrison! Sorry for
>> delayed thank you!)
>> https://haitipartners.secure.force.com/HurricaneMatthewEmergencyRelief/
>>
>> Thanks Doug and Jeff and others for your thoughts and wishes.
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> John Engle
>> www.HaitiPartners.org 
>> 202-236-6532
>> Haiti: 3136-6495
>>
>> Sent from iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've been following via the Haiti Partners site and him on facebook.
>>>
>>> https://haitipartners.org/reports/hurricane-matthew-update-day-1/
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 12:43 PM, "doug via OSList"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Friends--
>>>
>>> Any word on John and how he might be doing? Was he in Haiti during
>>> the hurricane, or in Florida awaiting it?
>>>
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Re: [OSList] Safety

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Wow - thank you Peggy and Birgitt - very valuable.

I'm curious about two things. What is the difference between focus on 
welcoming, and a focus on safety - and how can the sponsor help make the 
space welcoming?


The second - the reason safety has become much more important to me is 
the story of the Aluminum Company of America as told in the book "The 
Power of Habit", the company was turned around by making safety the 
priority. The CEO said, "If you want to understand how Alcoa is doing, 
you need to look at our workplace safety figures." He was saying that 
profits were less an indication of the health and future prospects of 
the company than safety. And as a result, the end result was much more 
profits as well as growth.


One of the pioneers of Agile Software development, Joshua Kerievsky, 
made this one of the four pillars of "Modern Agile". You can look that 
up, but part of what it says is "Make Safety a Prerequisite: Safety is 
both a basic human need and a key to unlocking high performance. We 
actively make safety a prerequisite by establishing safety before 
engaging in any hazardous work."


I notice some of the prior OSList posts about safety was that Open Space 
helped grow safety. But it's probably not helpful to "make safety a 
prerequisite" before convening an open space event. But perhaps that's 
really just a given. An unstated prerequisite of any welcoming 
invitation. Will you help me resolve my discomfort around letting this 
question go?


Thanks!
Harold

On 9/21/16 11:40 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:

Hi Harold,
I believe that the greatest issues about safety come about when a 
facilitator attempts to reassure people that 'this is safe space'. We 
can never know if the space for conversations is actually safe, 
despite the safeguards built in by the four principles and the one law 
of OST. Those who choose to enact their leadership into the unknown, 
taking risks, being vulnerable, will do somaybe now, maybe at a 
subsequent meeting. Those who for whatever reason need to hold back 
will do so.


Even to assure people that they have some responsibility for safety in 
themselves assumes too much. People take risks, they may know or not 
know the consequences that might come about, the collateral damage 
that might ensue. People cannot be responsible for even personal 
safety as it is not within their control.


And so I agree with what Peggy has offered as an alternative. The 
concept of welcoming space. This takes me to my concept that the 
facilitator doesn't open the welcoming space for the meetingit 
must be the sponsor who does so.


Great question Harold!
Birgitt

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:32 PM Peggy Holman via OSList 
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Great question Harold! I always wince when people say the space
needs to be safe. If you make space so safe that it leaves the
opportunity for messiness out, nothing happens. Sometimes I’ve
said "safe enough”. Ultimately, as you said, a sense of safety
comes from within.

Rather than safety, I have come to focus on welcoming space. (With
a nod to Juanita Brown, who helped me to understand the value of
welcoming.) A spirit of welcome creates conditions for who and
what shows up. And if you start cultivating a culture of welcome,
then there’s room for all voices — and those who come discover
they belong.

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On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
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Dear People(s) of Open Space,

What is the importance of safety? What, if any, work is needed in
the "pre-work" to help ensure safety?

It seems that safety is doomed if the "givens" are that the
people in the organization must either be silent or agree with
the "powers that be" on everything.

I'm seeing two aspects to this. At one level, systemic oppression
(such as explicitly killing, imprisoning, or otherwise
effectively punishing dissent) clearly would shut down any
opening in an open space.

And at another level, safety is something we can be responsible
in ourselves. With enough passion and courage, we can take
responsibility for own safety. And also, it can be easy just to
stay silent

[OSList] Safety

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear People(s) of Open Space,

What is the importance of safety? What, if any, work is needed in the 
"pre-work" to help ensure safety?


It seems that safety is doomed if the "givens" are that the people in 
the organization must either be silent or agree with the "powers that 
be" on everything.


I'm seeing two aspects to this. At one level, systemic oppression (such 
as explicitly killing, imprisoning, or otherwise effectively punishing 
dissent) clearly would shut down any opening in an open space.


And at another level, safety is something we can be responsible in 
ourselves. With enough passion and courage, we can take responsibility 
for own safety. And also, it can be easy just to stay silent, or not to 
look beyond the smallness of our comfort zone because of the lenses we 
look through. And then we won't even try something out of fear, when 
something powerful could have been a result of us taking a small step 
(or a small series of steps to the center of the circle).


What do you all think about safety, and helping to encourage people to 
source their own safety, as well as working with the "powers that be" to 
help ensure some level of safety?


Thanks!
Harold

P.S. I did find one interesting post about this in the archives from the 
late Father Brian Bainbridge. 
http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org/msg01333.html



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Re: [OSList] Answers?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thank you Harrison. Great question! I hope this reply (answer?) is 
appropriately irreverent...


Your thinking reminds me of the classic Hitchhiker's Guide to the 
Galaxy. An ancient race on a distant star system built an enormous 
computer to calculate "The Answer". The "Answer to the Ultimate Question 
of Life, the Universe, and Everything". It took the computer 7.5 million 
years. And famously, the answer was 42.


The computer ("Deep Thought") told them now they needed the ultimate 
question, and told them they needed to build an even bigger computer 
(the size of the earth) to calculate the question.


Cheers,
Harold

On 9/4/16 9:37 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:


It is all about answers.

The critical thing in life.

So I was told.

If you do not have the answers,

Or better THE ANSWER,

Life is hardly worth living.

Poor me --

No matter how hard I tried,

Every answer I found

Was either partial,

half-assed or stupid.

Answers don’t help a bit.

It’s the Question, Stupid!

Not just any question.

The Question. The biggie. The one with no possible answer.

Sitting THAT Question makes anything possible.

Nothing is certain.

It is called real open space.

Breathtaking!

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Re: [OSList] OS at work

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Internal company wide Open Space events for inspecting and planning 
Agile transformations is a great idea, and at least to some agile 
coaches I've spoken with, it freaks out the execs. It also freaks out 
those used to running command and control style forced change "roll out" 
processes. They "roll out" Agile onto teams like a new internal software 
package update. Like the organization is a computer system. Even for 
Agile. It is the norm for Lean transformations too. I've heard such 
transformations are called LINO (Lean In Name Only). And it's ugly and 
ridiculous. But it's what execs are used to buying, so that's what we 
sell them. Ugh.


Despite how powerfully Open Space has worked in public knowledge sharing 
events like Agile Open (Thank You Diana!), it has been harder to get 
buy-in for internal agile adoption planning and retrospection events 
that empower self-organization as much as Open Space does.


But as the results start coming in, this is changing. The Walmart Story 
is a huge one - 3000 person internal IT converted to Agile with 300 
internal Open Space events! It was presented in Atlanta last month. You 
can read it yourself. 
https://www.agilealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/T.Kromann.M.Carey_.OpenTransformation-Lessons-from-20-Years-of-Changing-Organizations.pdf


A call to action. As more folks get exposed to Open Space, they'll be 
looking to those with years of experience with it. Let's keep this space 
welcoming, encouraging, ... and relevant.


Tony's request is a great one. Open Space has become so widespread it's 
hard to keep track of all the success stories.


Like Diana did, let's keep sharing these success stories. And perhaps we 
can self-organize a way to keep track of them and not just force people 
to do google searches and pour over the OSList archives. Any helpers?


Cheers!
Harold

On 9/3/16 8:33 AM, Mark Sheffield via OSList wrote:
... or maybe it's a good idea that just doesn't align with how "the 
Agile" is being practiced.


Mark
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Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [OSList] OS at work
To: >



Ironically the use of enterprise-wide Open Space events is rather 
limited in so-called "Agile transformations" worldwide. I wonder if 
this has anything to do at all with authority's fear of "enterprise 
wide truth-telling" about the conduct of the Agile adoption.


"Everyone-invited, at-least-one-day, enterprise-wide Open Space events 
that inspect the Agile adoption itself..." ...this is something only a 
few folks have experienced. Oddly. Right?


For example, at Agile Israel as the closing keynote, I had the 
opportunity to ask 600++ Agile folks the following question:


"How many folks here have ever attended an 'at-least-one-day, 
enterprise-wide retrospective on the Agile adoption itself?' "


All of 4 hands went up. 4 out of 600++. Lots of crickets chirping in 
the room.


I left out the "everyone-invited" part, so there was at least some 
small chance of a response.


Those gears of progress in the Agile community do grind slowly...if at 
all.


Just saying.

Question: What's the set of impediments between the status-quo, and 
making enterprise-wide retrospectives in Open Space a common practice 
inside so-called "Agile transformations?"


Perhaps periodic, everyone-invited, enterprise-wide Agile-adoption 
retrospectives in Open Space is just a dumb idea. Not at all aligned 
with Agile principles, etc.


Daniel




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Re: [OSList] What's the difference between BarCamp and OST?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

I got my start in Open Space via BarCamp.

I first heard about FooCamp, wished I could attend, and eventually found 
out I could host my own BarCamp. Others in my state had heard about 
them, and there was some support in my community to initiate one in 
Missoula.


Then the 2007 JavaOne conference in San Francisco included a "BarCamp" 
side track with Kaliya Hamlin facilitating. It was poorly attended 
(about 16 people out of potentially 15,000+), but Kaliya invited me to 
the "Real Thing", her Internet Identity Workshop a few days later not 
too far away (Mountain View). It was a real Open Space, and it was there 
that Kaliya introduced me to Lisa Heft. The following winter I took 
Lisa's training.


But since people already recognized and supported the BarCamp "brand", I 
just ran my BarCamp with true and blue Open Space. Opening and closing 
circles, butterflies, bumblebees, surprises, and whenevers/whoevers. We 
kept the BarCamp moniker for 6 years doing it each time as an Open 
Space. Only the seventh year I was finally able to lop off the BarCamp 
part. (And there was much rejoicing.)


Read the history of BarCamp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference. 
It comes from Open Space! The origin story was obscured in the past, but 
now it's out in the open. Sarah Winge organized the first FooCamp for 
O'Reilly based on her experience with OST, *AND WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH 
HARRISON OWEN*.


However wayward are the children of Open Space - I'm grateful to BarCamp 
(and FooCamp) for launching me into something that has totally inspired 
and invigorated my professional and personal life. Thank you BarCamp! 
May you eventually acknowledge and honor your heritage!


Harold

On 8/24/16 4:47 AM, Barry Owen via OSList wrote:
I could write a veritable book about my experiences with BarCamp here 
in nashville, TN in the past 6 years.


It's pseudo self organization at best . . . There's a tip of the hat 
to unconference at the beginning as folks arrive and are invited to 
write down "Things they want to Learn" and "things they want to teach".


The "organizers" then fill the schedule while the participants mingle, 
and the event starts (as aforementioned) with a very brief introduction.


Most sessions are "teaching" and not open dialog and many are 
pre-loaded speakers who were specifically invited to come with all 
expenses paid.


my understanding is that BarCamp was initially designed as a 
"Technology Conference" for computer Geeks, so perhaps it 'works" 
better with Geeks. Using it for other other purposes (Organizational 
Development/transformation etc) is an unintended use of the original 
format.


So - I think BarCamp serves the intended purpose well - and I believe 
some misguided folks are attempting to plug a square hole with a round 
peg thinking that it's interchangeable with OST


My 2 cents

This ain't Open Space!


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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Amanda Bucklow via OSList 
> wrote:


I had never heard of BarCamp. I was smiling too as I read Martin’s
response. If anyone mentions it to me, I will just roll my eyes :-)

Amanda

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On 23 Aug 2016, at 20:51, Eva P Svensson via OSList
> wrote:

Martin,
I smile when I read your text - I can almost feel your irritation
over comparing OST with Barcamp :-)
Thank you all who had answered - I now think that I will not ever
say that it’s like OST, but that they had borrowed a few thing
but got them backwards…(oops)
:o)
Eva

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Re: [OSList] Accessibility concerns about bending down to pick up paper/pens

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thanks Richard, Sarah, Koos, Chris, Birgitt, Michael, MK, Jennifer, 
Harrison, Bhavesh, Christine, & Lisa!


I've appreciated your thoughts and recommendations on this topic and 
look forward to summarizing this thinking to the client. This will 
definitely inform my thinking going forward. In many ways, I'd prefer to 
ignore it and let it be "one less thing to do". But having papers on a 
chair in the circle, tables outside the circle, using clipboards, and 
providing some words to make the process easier and cause less friction 
seems a small thing. Though I do aspire one day to only need to say "if 
your ego & arthritis permit, otherwise ask for help." Maybe if I get a 
hat first :-)


Harold

P.S. There's so much happening on the OSList. I'm rejoicing in all the 
LOVE! Thanks to all participants!



On 8/26/16 1:09 PM, Richard Kasperowski via OSList wrote:
Hi, Harold! This is important. I've also encountered it as a gender 
bias issue--if you're wearing a short skirt or dress, you might not 
want to bend over in front of the group, and so you'll feel 
uncomfortable about fully participating.


My easy solution: If it's a seated opening, I reserve one chair in the 
innermost circle of chairs. I put paper and markers on that chair, as 
well as on the floor. When I show people how to share a session idea, 
I model it using the paper and marker on the chair so everyone knows 
they don't have to get down on the floor.


What have other people done?

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:28 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList 
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In the many OST's I've participated in or helped open myself, I've
encountered this complaint about having to bend over to pick up
the pens and the papers in only two instances. Both of which were
Universities. In both cases, the leading edge of the complaint
seemed to have to do with women's dresses, but I also heard
something about being "able" prejudiced.

The first University chose to put some tables outside the circle
with some papers and markers. The second one is thinking they will
wheel in a table after the opening into the center, which seems
energetically disruptive.

Have others encountered this? How did you deal with it?

Thanks!
Harold

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[OSList] Accessibility concerns about bending down to pick up paper/pens

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

In the many OST's I've participated in or helped open myself, I've 
encountered this complaint about having to bend over to pick up the pens 
and the papers in only two instances. Both of which were Universities. 
In both cases, the leading edge of the complaint seemed to have to do 
with women's dresses, but I also heard something about being "able" 
prejudiced.


The first University chose to put some tables outside the circle with 
some papers and markers. The second one is thinking they will wheel in a 
table after the opening into the center, which seems energetically 
disruptive.


Have others encountered this? How did you deal with it?

Thanks!
Harold

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Re: [OSList] Working with the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Speaking for myself, it sounds like a great edit, even if it changes the
link url. I suspect the board will like it too (again speaking for myself).

Thank you!

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On Aug 18, 2016 6:09 PM, "Birgitt Williams" <birg...@dalarinternational.com>
wrote:

> Hi Harold,
> I can imagine the work that this took. I recall way back in 1996 having
> hopes like this for what the OSIUS might do. In keeping with today's
> environment, I am wondering if it is possible to change the word 'working'
> to 'partnering with' or something to communicate co-operation/collaboration.
>
> I believe what you all have put together is fantastic and I believe that
> there will be some important initiatives that result.
>
> Thank you,
> Birgitt
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear OSList,
>>
>> At the monthly Open Space Institute U.S. board meeting today we completed
>> our work on some guidelines for working with the institute. We've been
>> drafting this document for months, and it's definitely a living document so
>> it will continue to change and evolve. But hopefully it will make it a
>> little more transparent, and just a little more inviting, to work with the
>> OSI-US on possibilities in alignment with our (evolving) mission.
>>
>> http://osius.org/working-with-the-institute
>>
>> You can also find this document if you browse through our "About
>> <http://osius.org/content/about>" page.
>>
>> Please do feel free to contact me directly, or any of the other board
>> members, or i...@osius.org.
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Harold
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[OSList] Working with the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear OSList,

At the monthly Open Space Institute U.S. board meeting today we 
completed our work on some guidelines for working with the institute. 
We've been drafting this document for months, and it's definitely a 
living document so it will continue to change and evolve. But hopefully 
it will make it a little more transparent, and just a little more 
inviting, to work with the OSI-US on possibilities in alignment with our 
(evolving) mission.


http://osius.org/working-with-the-institute

You can also find this document if you browse through our "About 
" page.


Please do feel free to contact me directly, or any of the other board 
members, or i...@osius.org.


Thank you!
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Re: [OSList] a substantial difference

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thanks Birgitt, Harrison, Eva for this question!

Engagement is considered very valuable. There's been an annual gallup 
poll around U.S. employee engagement levels, and the latest one shows 
it's only 32%. They're participating as employees, but they're not 
really showing up. 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/188144/employee-engagement-stagnant-2015.aspx


Gallup has estimated the cost of this lack of engagement is "$450 
billion to $550 billion in lost productivity per year". 
http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/162953/tackle-employees-stagnating-engagement.aspx


I'm not the origin of this story, and I doubt it really started with the 
formal use of Open Space in bringing Agile practices into software 
organizations (thank you Daniel Mezick!), but engagement is really 
considered critical in getting a successful and lasting shift towards 
agile processes and an agile mindset.


Although Open Space doesn't guarantee engagement, it does prevent a 
critical factor in this lack of engagement. Which is enforced 
participation. Open Space helps show how space actually is open for 
people to step forward for what they love as an act of service (thank 
you Peggy Holman for showing me this way of thinking about Open Space).


Unless we offer an authentic invitation to engage, one that is welcoming 
as well as being an invitation we can safely decline, the most we can 
get is their butts into the room. We won't get their hearts.


Can we coerce engagement? Full engagement? My sense is no. Maybe we can 
trick people, but engagement by fraud isn't real engagement.


Harold

On 8/10/16 10:05 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote:

Hi Birgitt and al,
great distinction, I so often experience that there are great 
engagement in an Open Space Technology meeting and also in the follow 
up meeting afterwards but when it comes to action planning people 
suddenly start to look down, the voices becomes more silent etc and 
it’s difficult to get the energy for actions.
I will here after talk about both participation and engagement and 
what that means for the participants and the sponsors.

:o)
Eva

Bästa hälsningar

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10 aug. 2016 kl. 16:38 skrev Birgitt Williams via OSList 
>:




Harrison...one of the aspects of you that I love is that when you 
participate, you engage.


I witness many people participating and appearing engaged. And yet 
upon probing after a participatory meeting, engagement was not 
sufficient to create follow on action. I feel that this distinction 
between having a participatory meeting and having the conditions for 
engagement is important somehow.


Blessings,
Birgitt


On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:52 PM Harrison Owen > wrote:


Love to participate… and engage. So what so I do?

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Dear friends and colleagues,

One important question is "do you want to participate?". Hence
participatory methods.

Another important question is "do you want to engage?".  A
totally different question with a different energy, both in its
inquiry and its answer.

The question that we align ourselves with as facilitators makes a
substantial difference in our approach. I am wondering about the
impact on our outcomes.

Make a great day!

Birgitt

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Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Wow - thanks Birgitt. I very much enjoyed your perspective and resonate 
with it.


I love trainings (as long as they're very little lecture and lots of 
experience, movement, creation and experiments... and play). I love the 
work of Sharon Bowman, "Training from the Back of the Room". It's almost 
required reading for moving up in the Scrum Alliance's trainer 
certification track. (Ack - did I say certification???!)


Some questions:

Is it wrong to take and enjoy an Open Space Training?
Do the trainers and the trainees deserve censure for taking and 
enjoying, sometimes multiple times, such trainings?
Is training a less than helpful word? Does it invoke Pavlovian 
punishment/reward processes, and sitting obediently around the guru/teacher?


A little bit about "question storming" that I learned from the book by 
Warren Berger "A More Beautiful Question 
<http://amorebeautifulquestion.com/>". It can be useful to build more 
questions by taking yes/no ones like the ones above, and opening them. 
And it can be useful to do the reverse too! Turning open questions into 
yes/no ones.


How can taking and enjoying trainings for Open Space be a good thing, 
and how can it be detrimental?


How do both offering and taking trainings for Open Space Techonology 
close space? How could it open it?


What other words invoke a more "Open Space" purpose and intent than 
"training"?


How can the use of the word "Trainings" for Open Space actually be a 
benefit?


Cheers,
Harold



On 7/19/16 11:59 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:
I just wanted to add a little to Harrison's point about 'unlearning'. 
In something we refer to as 'training' which is a misnomer unto 
itself, we have

-unlearning
-getting in touch with the mythology, story, and ritual that we are, 
in other words getting into genuine contact with ourselves
-getting in even deeper genuine contact with ourselves until we can 
access the memories carried in our bones, in our cells, and in our 
hearts and souls of what is good, true and beautiful in us all and in 
our connections
-this leads to genuine contact with another, with the collective and 
with Creator/Creation


Does it take 2 days? Does it take a lifetime? 2 days is a starting 
pointpersonally I prefer to offer a 4 day learning journey...not 
just about facilitation and the essence of OSTthe form is after 
all quite simpleI like to include how to work with OST within a 
fixed system so that the outcomes from an OST meeting have their best 
chance to shift into action and positive results.


I took Harrison's OST training 4 day training 7 times...learning more 
each time. I have offered countless OST trainings and learn more each 
time. Maybe it is a quirk of mine...I totally enjoyed three years 
deeply immersed in studying the circle...and these days I am enjoying 
learning the nuances of the breath as metaphor. Great joy!


Blessings all around,
Birgitt

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:08 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
<mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:


Paul – Good to see you! And I was struck with your question… “How
can it possibly take 2 days to "teach"

OST and why would anyone ever want to teach it anyway ?” In my
experience it certainly does not take 2 days to “teach” Open
Space. BUT it does seem to take two days to get even a minimal
start on un-learning all the stuff we thought we knew about
working together – All the stuff that clogs up our space so that
working becomes difficult and sometimes impossible.

Harrison

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*Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:06 AM
*To:* Harold Shinsato; World wide Open Space Technology email list
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space
Institute U.S.

Harold

 A few more questions ...

Warm wishes

Paul

Why are we still calling OST a technology ?

Why is the LAW of two feel a law ?

If the "principles" are not prescriptions but descriptions why are
they called principles ?

How can it possibly take 2 days to "teach"

OST and why would anyone ever want to teach it anyway ?

Why do OST "elders" on the OS list keep advocating dogmatic views
about OST? (Oh yes you do)

What if one less thing to do was facilitation ?

How could OSI begin a humble inquiry into new and valuable ways of
opening space? And learn from them ?

What questions do we need to ask that cannot be formed into
latinised words and phrases ?

    Where is open space technology when the world needs to open space
most - right now ?



On Monday, 18 July 2016, Harold Shinsato via OSList
<oslist@lists.open

Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Chris,

Since the thread is about helping the OSI-US find "mission questions", 
rather than answering the questions, I would encourage and invite you to 
reflect on these questions in separate threads to make the reflections 
easier to see and connect with via the subject line.


I look forward to your reflections!

Thanks!
Harold

On 7/19/16 11:13 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
I like your questions Paul. They’re interesting! Can I add some 
reflections on them?


On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:06 AM, paul levy via OSList 
> wrote:


Harold

 A few more questions ...

Warm wishes

Paul


Why are we still calling OST a technology ?


Still called a technology because it’s cheeky.  That’s my take anyway.



Why is the LAW of two feel a law ?


Law because, like the law of gravity it seems to be fundamentally 
inviolable. So it’s helpful to acknowledge it.  You could probably 
acknowledge the law of gravity too, if you wanted to remind people not 
to drop their stuff. But at least acknowledging the law of mobility 
helps people understand why folks wander off during sessions.




If the "principles" are not prescriptions but descriptions why are 
they called principles ?




Principles don’t have to be prescriptive to be principles.  These four 
principles seem to capture four things (or five) that work about open 
space.  They are provocative and interesting and disruptive to normal 
meeting procedures.  And I have done many Open Space meetings without 
talking about them at all.



How can it possibly take 2 days to "teach"
OST and why would anyone ever want to teach it anyway ?



It doesn’t take two days to “teach" Open Space Technology.  But to 
spend two days with other practitioners who are learning, thinking 
about, and trading ideas on using OST seems to accelerate people’s 
practice and use of the process and the underlying view of the world 
that it encapsulates.


Open Space Technology is not “teacheable” but it is learnable.  How’s 
that for a provocative proposition?


Why do OST "elders" on the OS list keep advocating dogmatic views 
about OST? (Oh yes you do)




Who are these “elders" of which you speak?



What if one less thing to do was facilitation ?


Yup.



How could OSI begin a humble inquiry into new and valuable ways of 
opening space? And learn from them ?


This is a really great question.  Juanita Brown has convened a 
conversation on “the central garden” of participatory methods that is 
just such a humble inquiry. So humble that it has been approached 
slowly and quietly, and I’m sure she would welcome many others 
joining.  She’s been at it for a while: 
http://www.theworldcafe.com/more-from-juanita-brown/


What questions do we need to ask that cannot be formed into latinised 
words and phrases ?


This one:

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7FF2/production/_90345723_mediaitem90345722.jpg



Where is open space technology when the world needs to open space 
most - right now ?




It is right here where it has always been.   And I think there is a 
lot of space being opened in the world right now, in all kinds of ways.


Opening space is not a guarantee of peace and good times. When space 
opens so too does authentic human voice. People that have been silent 
claim sound. People that have been displaced look for a new home. 
People that have been backed into corners clamp down on control and 
fear.  Does the world need open space most now? Or has open space 
given us the world we live in now?


We have no guarantee of safety in this world. And when space open for 
some, others who didn’t ever realize they were taking up so much, 
suddenly start getting quite worried.  It’s nice to imagine the tables 
being turned over, unless one of the tables is mine.


Chris




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Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thanks Harrison!

Great wisdom... if you could invite people into living questions you 
might encourage us to enjoy - what might those be?


Inferring from your response - I'll guess at a few living questions...

?How can I/we do as little as possible?
?How can I/we be fully present, but basically invisible?
?How can I/we have fun opening space - whenever, wherever, however, with 
whomever, about whatever as often as I/we can?


Anything else?

Thanks!
Harold

On 7/18/16 3:41 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:


Harold – I love your intensity and focus! And -- I have a few 
suggestions for your “practical questions” (How can the OSI-US best 
support our community?
How can we best work together with the community to co-create a broad 
and diverse circle of people holding space for open space?)


Do as little as possible.

Never work harder than you have to.

Be present, but basically invisible.

Remember the 5 Principles

Practice The Law of Two Feet

Have fun.

That ought to do it. At least it always worked for me. J

Harrison

PS – and if you need something more specific – Just open space 
whenever, wherever, however, with whomever, about whatever, as often 
as you can.


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*Subject:* [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

Dear People of Open Space:

The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has been "holding space for open 
space" since at least 1997. It's origins lie in the summer of 1996, 20 
years ago. In the beginnings, there were many serious conversations in 
the community as to the role and mission of such an institute, and 
that role has certainly evolved over the years. The board has 
determined it is time for us to revisit our mission and role, and 
especially to invite and trust the rest of the community refresh and 
renew our purpose.


Rather than have a mission statement, we hope instead to have a 
mission question. Or series of questions. What are the most valuable 
and alive questions for our community right now, and for the 
foreseeable future?


To start the "question storming", here are some questions that have 
been reportedly asked deeply within our community in the early days:


What is Open Space Technology?
What is Open Space?
What is Space?

And here are some practical questions that would help guide the 
OSI-US's operations:


How can the OSI-US best support our community?
How can we best work together with the community to co-create a broad 
and diverse circle of people holding space for open space?


Thanks!
Harold Shinsato
on behalf of the Board of the Open Space Institute, U.S.

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Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Birgitt,

Thank you for very incisive questions. These seem important to answer, 
and not just use as source points for creating more questions.


I apologize if the purpose wasn't clear. There are quite a few nuances 
to the purpose of the invitation to the community, but the overarching 
purpose was simply as stated. Renew our mission and purpose as an 
Institute. As to the nuances, these more subtle aims and objectives 
connect to our mission as we understand it now. "Hold space for Open 
Space". And that means keeping the learning and growth around the 
practice of Open Space alive and well.


From our bylaws: " Open Space Institute is a non-profit organization 
whose purpose is to invite and support the use and practice of Open 
Space Technology (OST) throughout the United States and the world."


As to our current "givens", there are definitely non-profit laws and 
501(c)(3) regulations from the IRS which we have to respect. But the 
remainder of our givens as a registered non-profit are more flexible and 
we can adjust as needed. Our articles of incorporation are pretty much 
stock non-profit articles as required by the IRS. Our by-laws are more 
fixed, but we can change them as the need arises. Though we have not 
done so since I joined the board in 2010.


Our full by-laws: http://osius.org/bylaws
The OSI-US's "about" page: http://osius.org/content/about

Thanks!
Harold

On 7/18/16 3:27 PM, Birgitt Williams wrote:
Harold...wondering what the purpose of creating questions is. Also, 
from the beginning there are basic givens because OSI US chose to 
register as a registered non profit organization with a charter. Might 
you be willing to share the givens so that people like me can feel 
into what you are actually opening up the space for?


Birgitt

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:22 PM Michael Herman via OSList 
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and...

who is the/our community?  ...or communities?  ...or what kind of
communities are these communities?


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    On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
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Dear People of Open Space:

The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has been "holding space
for open space" since at least 1997. It's origins lie in the
summer of 1996, 20 years ago. In the beginnings, there were
many serious conversations in the community as to the role and
mission of such an institute, and that role has certainly
evolved over the years. The board has determined it is time
for us to revisit our mission and role, and especially to
invite and trust the rest of the community refresh and renew
our purpose.

Rather than have a mission statement, we hope instead to have
a mission question. Or series of questions. What are the most
valuable and alive questions for our community right now, and
for the foreseeable future?

To start the "question storming", here are some questions that
have been reportedly asked deeply within our community in the
early days:

What is Open Space Technology?
What is Open Space?
What is Space?

And here are some practical questions that would help guide
the OSI-US's operations:

How can the OSI-US best support our community?
How can we best work together with the community to co-create
a broad and diverse circle of people holding space for open space?

Thanks!
Harold Shinsato
on behalf of the Board of the Open Space Institute, U.S.

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Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thanks Michael, great questions... just to build on them...

What does it take to be "in" our community if you wanted to be in it?
Who are we? Are we just practitioners and fans of Open Space, or 
something more, less?

Are we a community of practice?
Are we a learning community?
What is the nature of our "communion"?

Harold

On 7/18/16 3:21 PM, Michael Herman wrote:

and...

who is the/our community?  ...or communities?  ...or what kind of 
communities are these communities?



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http://OpenSpaceWorld.org



On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
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Dear People of Open Space:

The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has been "holding space for
open space" since at least 1997. It's origins lie in the summer of
1996, 20 years ago. In the beginnings, there were many serious
conversations in the community as to the role and mission of such
an institute, and that role has certainly evolved over the years.
The board has determined it is time for us to revisit our mission
and role, and especially to invite and trust the rest of the
community refresh and renew our purpose.

Rather than have a mission statement, we hope instead to have a
mission question. Or series of questions. What are the most
valuable and alive questions for our community right now, and for
the foreseeable future?

To start the "question storming", here are some questions that
have been reportedly asked deeply within our community in the
early days:

What is Open Space Technology?
What is Open Space?
What is Space?

And here are some practical questions that would help guide the
OSI-US's operations:

How can the OSI-US best support our community?
How can we best work together with the community to co-create a
broad and diverse circle of people holding space for open space?

Thanks!
Harold Shinsato
on behalf of the Board of the Open Space Institute, U.S.

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[OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space Institute U.S.

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Dear People of Open Space:

The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has been "holding space for open 
space" since at least 1997. It's origins lie in the summer of 1996, 20 
years ago. In the beginnings, there were many serious conversations in 
the community as to the role and mission of such an institute, and that 
role has certainly evolved over the years. The board has determined it 
is time for us to revisit our mission and role, and especially to invite 
and trust the rest of the community refresh and renew our purpose.


Rather than have a mission statement, we hope instead to have a mission 
question. Or series of questions. What are the most valuable and alive 
questions for our community right now, and for the foreseeable future?


To start the "question storming", here are some questions that have been 
reportedly asked deeply within our community in the early days:


What is Open Space Technology?
What is Open Space?
What is Space?

And here are some practical questions that would help guide the OSI-US's 
operations:


How can the OSI-US best support our community?
How can we best work together with the community to co-create a broad 
and diverse circle of people holding space for open space?


Thanks!
Harold Shinsato
on behalf of the Board of the Open Space Institute, U.S.

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[OSList] Open Space online community numbers

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Membership in the Open Space online communities over time. Please let me 
know of other online forums about Open Space.


21 Jun 2016
- 799 (+22) on OSList
- 2453 (+87) on Facebook
- 1865 (+32) on LinkedIn
- 266 on Yahoo (in German) openspacedeutsch 
https://de.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/openspacedeutsch/info

- 96 (+20) on Google Plus
- OpenSpaceWorld Ning was decommissioned

31 May 2015
- 777(-1) people on OSList
- 2366(+155) on FB
- 1803(+91) on LinkedIn
- 819(+6) people on Open Space World Ning community
- 76(+19) people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Community

16 December 2014
- 778(-9) people on OSList
- 2211(+194) on FB
- 1712(+70) on LinkedIn
- 813(+12) people on Open Space World Ning community
- 57(+8) people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle

11 August 2014
- 787 people on OSList
- 2017 people on Facebook Open Space Technology group - 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7189220743
- 1642 people on LinkedIn Open Space Technology group - 
https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home==81286
- 801 people on Open Space World Ning community - 
http://openspaceworld.ning.com/
- 49 people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle - 
https://plus.google.com/stream/circles/p70fe5c7a8a52f291


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[OSList] OpenSpace Agility for Communities & Planet - Seattle May 16

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

OpenSpace Agility 1-day workshop in the Emerald City, May 16.

Do you want to help save our communities and the planet? Make a 
difference? Most of us here know Open Space has the potential to help us 
get there. Software is already transforming the world for both good and 
ill. OpenSpace Agility is helping companies build software products with 
all hands engaged and on deck.


At this one day workshop on May 16 at the home of my friend Sono 
Hashisaki you'll get to use Open Space and Agile philosophy for the 
benefit of everyone. Not just computers. In a way that is sustainable, 
resilient, and joyful.


http://shinsato.com/blog/openspace-agility-workshop-seattle/

Thanks!
Harold


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Re: [OSList] From Paris with Love

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Wow, Tony - this sounds a lot like open space!

"The plaza begins to fill around 5pm with circles of people standing and 
sitting, *talking under cardboard signs to identify the theme of their 
discussion*, including groups on economics, education, facilitation, 
feminism, housing and ecology."


Thanks so much for sending out this link!

Harold


On 4/17/16 12:49 PM, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:

From Paris with Love:
We are more than 100,000 people on this page. We are in 150 cities, 
‪#‎partoutdebout 
, 
in France and dozens of cities around the world. We are also 
‪#‎banlieuesdebout 
, 
‪#‎artistesdebout 
 
and many other things! We are 100,000 and soon we will be millions — 
in the process of creating a new force that will displace the old world.

https://roarmag.org/essays/from-paris-with-love-and-lessons/
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*Tony Budak
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Re: [OSList] A Gift from Phelim

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

The name of the sender is included in the "from" field. The email is the 
OSList. I see the sender as "Phelim McDermott via OSList".


I had to make this change or many email systems recently started 
bouncing the OSList (like Yahoo and Gmail).


I have no idea why you would get "Scramble" when you hit reply. We are 
using the standard email fields so if you hit the default reply - it 
should go to the sender and the oslist.


Harold


On 4/15/16 7:59 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

"And this is what happens if I reply... Scramble.."   I guess Apple is
trying to protect your privacy?

ho



-Original Message-
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Phelim McDermott via OSList
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] A Gift from Phelim

And this is what happens if I reply... Scramble..

Anyone know why ?

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott
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  I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working
day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent
please call me on 07956 187298.
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Re: [OSList] New: Group Pattern langage in French

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Hi Christine,

I very much enjoy the GroupWorks card deck and use it frequently to help 
me understand, work with, and improve group dynamics when I teach at 
Montana Code School, when I set up Open Space events, and when I coach 
agile teams.


I've also used them to help me with group dynamics on the OSList. Tricia 
Chirumbole and I were on the OSHotline at least a year ago and the two 
cards that seemed to be the most helpful were the following:


*Embrace Dissonance and Difference:*
Encourage your group to honour contradictory viewpoints, sitting with 
the uncertainty and ambiguity this brings. Acknowledge all perspectives 
as equally valid and explore them fully as needed, especially when 
tensions are high and agreement seems far away.


*Playfulness:*
Invite light-hearted and high-spirited interaction to exercise mind, 
senses, imagination, and body, to engender creativity, and deepen 
relationships. Playfullness may be evoked through structured but fun 
ways to engage relevant topics, or restorative breaks that allow 
laughter free reign, or may simply show up as humour.


The GroupWorks card deck was an open source project based on the design 
pattern language from legendary architect Christopher Alexander which 
also inspired the popular Design Patterns for object oriented software 
development.


You can download the cards for free: http://groupworksdeck.org/

Harold

On 3/22/16 11:27 AM, christine koehler via OSList wrote:

Dear Friends of Open Space

We are very pleased to announce the release in French of the deck of 
cards you may know: Group Pattern langage.
The Group pattern langage was created by a group of US facilitators 
who gave it to the world with a creative common licence ( website 
 here)
With 2 colleagues, Jeremie from Switzerland and Juan-Carlos from 
Canada, we translated it into French and found an editor who prints it 
and distribute it.
We've created a website dedicated to the cards : 
dynamiques-de-groupe.com 


The cards are coming out in France and Switzerland next Friday , and 
will be available in many bookstores for a few weeks.


Those beautiful cards show the many patterns we, as facilitators, can 
see when a group works at its best.


There are many different ways to use those cards, and I'd love to hear 
how you use it in your work. Would you share this with me ?



I'd wish all groups in the world would connect and use those patterns 
to  have conversations and work together so that terrible events like 
the one we experienced again today in Bruxelles does not happen again.

Christine


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Re: [OSList] OpenSpace Agility: How Agile can be successful. First Workshop in Germany, June from 13th to 15th

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Thank you so much for posting about this topic, Harrison!

And I'm so grateful for hearing Birgitt's tale. It has opened my mind, 
and heart.


If you didn't hear this story from Daniel, I'll offer it here. It is my 
own *PAINFUL* experience with Capital A "Agile" in software development. 
There is a huge amount of discontent in the Agile space, even as it 
continues to grow and obtain mind share. Part of the way that Daniel 
phrases it (and I do too) is that Mandated Agile is very bad. Deadly. It 
crushes engagement. I think it has also been crushing the true spirit of 
Agile.


And what Birgitt is offering from her experience is amazing. I feel 
humbled to have not recognized how applicable her story has been to what 
I've been trying to work on with helping organizations. But perhaps it 
has been my own journey especially the last month that has awakened me 
so much more to Birgitt's phenomenal work. I have ordered her book from 
Amazon (The Genuine Contact Way: Nourishing a Culture of Leadership). 
And I hope to get to one of these workshops soon as well.


For me - "Open Space Technology" - the tool - is amazing. Resilient. But 
the "Tool" is not the point. The point is "open space". Our innate 
humanity is what is opened in a good OS event. That's why it's true - 
the biggest Axiom of all in this work - "it's all open space"!


While I'm offering praise and thanks - I'd like to add Diana Larsen to 
the mix. Her work at finding the real connection to the Spirit of Agile 
- in connecting Agile to Open Space - has been a huge influence on me. 
The AgileOpen program as supported by the Agile Alliance has brought 
Agile coaches, practitioners, and learners together in Open Space in 
cities around the world for 10 years now. It was only at two Agile Open 
events this year - one in Seattle and one in San Diego - that I've 
started to understand at an even deeper the powerful people element at 
the heart of Agile. It's right there in the manifesto - but it continues 
to be taken to greater lengths by practitioners and explorers in the 
Agile space.


Perhaps a couple elements in the Agile space that resonate deeply 
(beyond of course the wonderful OpenSpace Agility) are the work around 
"Mob Programming" and "#NoEstimates". Explaining these two things are 
way beyond the scope of this thread - but returning what Birgitt speaks 
to - it is how important are the holistic elements of our connection to 
each other take us beyond any particular process. Encouraging leadership 
in our community - not just the formal management - is what makes things 
like "Mobbing" (multiple people working together at one computer and one 
keyboard), and "#NoEstimates" (which is never promising what we don't 
really understand but instead focus on continuous delivery of value).


These newer evolutions of Agility - do indeed maybe make "Scrumming" 
working too hard. Though I do think Scrum can be helpful, the process 
was never what made Agile truly Agile. "Individuals and Interactions 
over Processes and Tools"!!!


Warm regards,
Harold


On 3/8/16 1:03 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:

the middle of all that... but I do have some thoughts about Agile and Open 
Space.

I get that Dan and many others understand Open Space to be a useful tool/mechanism/means 
for "Agile Introduction." Agile Introduction, is of course, magic words for the 
initiated and obscure for some of the rest of us... Be that as it may... I agree. It 
works. AND

Just to be a little provocative I might suggest that Open Space is not the tool (means, mechanism), but 
the context. Of course I should probably remove the capitals and just do "os" -- pointing to what 
for me is "the magic sauce." That would be the process of Self Organization. Or as I said (sort of) 
in some other place: Real Agility is the fully conscious and intentional realization of the power of self 
organization. So open space (small o, s) is simply the context in which everything happens. And things work 
much better (agile, effective, efficient, etc) when we cheerfully align ourselves with the way things are -- 
as opposed to "fighting the system" to make it the way we think it should be.

Could it then be that SCRUMMING is working much too hard? Might it be better to carefully 
note and study what we can do naturally before trying to improve it? We could then take 
all that as a "base" -- and who knows where we might end up?

Harrison

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Re: [OSList] [GC] How to shift a destructive "information-meeting" to a constructive dialogue meeting?

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

Birgitt,

Thank you for your challenge! After reading it, I notice great hope, 
encouragement, as well as humility in the face of how large a commitment 
it is, and yet also how much sense it makes that anything we do outside 
of such authentic connection with Spirit becomes something that will 
need even more clean up. Perhaps a useful guideline for "one less thing 
to do."


Harold

On 2/18/16 2:36 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:
[...]
 commit to holding space for our whole lifetime for opportunities for 
harmony in the world. Before anyone makes that commitment, we caution 
you not to do so unless you can do what every really good facilitator 
of OS must do…to be completely neutral to outcome, no attachment to 
outcome, no taking of sides, no judging anyone as good or bad. We 
talked about how it is possible to hold this stance of being what I 
refer to as a ‘resonant energy field generator’, holding a frequency 
of love….for a lifetime, in times of war, in times of fear, pain, 
challenge and how to hold this stance even when it might be more 
‘natural’ to want to take action to fix something. And thus, my only 
suggestion is rooted in this. If the facilitators can do their inner 
work and stay in genuine contact with their self and with Spirit, it 
is possible to be helpful. If the foundation for acting comes from 
panic, or judgment, or inner conflict of any kind, it is likely to 
make a mess.



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Re: [OSList] The Question

[Harold Shinsato via OSList]

There are at least two important questions here:

1) What are we talking about here when we talk about "Open Space"?
2) What are we referencing when we talk about "Open Space Technology"?

As for question 1, we may have walked into this before on the OSList. 
I'm not going to bother to search our archives - I'm trying not to work 
too hard. But this reminds me of Einstein's answer about what is space 
and what is time? They're what we measure with rulers and clocks. My 
Physics 101 teacher in college said this the very first day. Then we got 
over it. (I've can prove Einstein said it about clocks - 
http://www.askamathematician.com/2009/11/q-what-is-time/).


Now about question 2, my sense of this based on something the wonderful 
Chuni Li said at an Open Space Institute U.S. board retreat over a year 
ago. She questioned if it is just the one meeting format we're familiar 
with (sit in a circle, open a marketplace, do breakouts, and then come 
together for a closing circle) or if it is anything that supports the 
opening of space. (My apologies if I've corrupted the clarity of what 
she's said - but it was a big aha moment at the meeting for me.)


I'm sure there are other ways, other technology, that can "open space". 
At least if we don't get too hung up on the first question - though you 
got me what we could measure open space with - other than maybe the same 
thing I measure when I move with my two feet. An internal experience.


Harold

On 1/28/16 10:55 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:

What is Open Space Technology?



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