Re: Creating a browser-based product

[William Luu]

Hi Greg,

I've been following this thread a little bit. I'm a bit like you in that I
haven't really been keeping up with the latest JS developments and am also
looking at creating a new app soon which makes use of one of these new JS
frameworks and am heavily leaning towards either React or Vue.

I think this article is useful for getting to know what the various pieces
of the modern JS world are (and what they do).
https://medium.com/the-node-js-collection/modern-javascript-explained-for-dinosaurs-f695e9747b70

>From what I've been reading, vue.js would be much quicker to pick up
compared to Angular which has a much steeper learning curve.

Some more reading material:

   - https://medium.com/corebuild-software/vue-js-and-net-mvc-b5cede228626
   - https://laravel-news.com/jquery-vue
   - https://blog.kloud.com.au/2017/02/14/running-vuejs-on-aspnet-core-apps/
   - https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/
   - https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/comparison.html

>From my understanding, in your ideal world, you want to utilise your
existing knowledge (ASP.NET MVC etc) and then add on a bit of JavaScript to
make the page more interactive.

Of course, this is just my opinion as someone who has no experience in any
of these modern JS frameworks. I've chatted with a few guys who have
experience with all 3, and their general consensus these days is towards
Vue and React over Angular.


Will



On 17 November 2017 at 09:14, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, we have a serious decision to make about the future directions of
> our 10 year old Silverlight product that is in wide use in some big
> companies. I told the boss I'd poll this forum for advice, so I'd really
> appreciate serious comments from people in-the-know.
>
> The large companies using the Silverlight product are now locking down
> security, so Internet Explorer is being banned and Edge adopted, which
> means Silverlight is out (some employees are already being forced to use
> the product from home). Our product is available as Xamarin authored tablet
> and phone apps for three platforms, but they won't even allow our apps on
> their company devices.
>
> So for the first time we are forced to produce a "browser based" version
> of our product, which apparently is acceptable to their security policies
> and audits. Here are some issues swirling in my head:
>
>- The backend services to drive the product are established.
>- The UIs of other product versions are explorer (master-detail)
>style, so it would be nice to maintain that feel in the browser.
>- We have to display data in Excel-like tables and a variety of charts
>(the richer and more interactive the better).
>- Should we use server-side ASP.NET Web Forms or MVC to drive it?
>- Should it be browser-side SPA? (you know I hate JS everything, so
>there is personal resistance there).
>- Could server-side and browser-side be combined to produce a better
>hybrid experience? Are there things to help you do that?
>- There are development platforms such as GTK and many others I guess
>that I'm not familiar with. Are they viable?
>- Other issues I'm forgetting?
>
>
> I'm personally familiar with ASP.NET Web Forms and MVC, but not with
> quality JS, layout or styling. Perhaps I could write a black-and-white
> skeleton of the working product and then give it to someone to style and
> script (I have done that once before).
>
> So in summary (I know this is a very broad question) ... if you were in my
> position, how would you proceed to produce a browser based version of a
> product?
>
> Cheers,
> *Greg K*
>
>

Re: Stored procedure only ORM

[William Luu]

You could try Dapper.

https://github.com/StackExchange/Dapper#stored-procedures

It's a micro ORM made by the people behind StackOverflow and claims to be
fairly fast.

On 11 July 2017 at 18:17, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> Anyone here had any fairly recent experience with an ORM (EF?) to run only
> stored procedures? Any gotchas or recommendations? The sql database I need
> to interact with has to have everything run via stored procedures. The last
> time I did this sort of thing we used ado.net directly. That obviously
> worked well but was tedious and boring to implement.
>
>

Re: log server [OT]

[William Luu]

Another one I've seen (but not used) is Exceptionless for log viewing.
https://exceptionless.com/




On 11 May 2017 at 09:56, Rob Andrew <rand...@voyageconnect.com> wrote:

> I have been looking into using NLog + Logentries as a means to expose and
> view what is occurring within our systems. Open to what other people are
> using.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@
> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *William Luu
> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 May 2017 9:50 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: log server [OT]
>
>
>
> Have you considered Serilog and Seq?
>
>
>
> Serilog - https://serilog.net/
>
> Seq - https://getseq.net/
>
>
>
>
>
> You can use Serilog for logging to all the places you need to (so log
> files, event log, etc and directly to Seq) and then view them directly in
> Seq.
>
> See: https://docs.getseq.net/v3/docs/using-serilog
>
> And https://nblumhardt.com/2014/06/durable-log-shipping-
> from-serilog-to-seq/
>
> https://nblumhardt.com/2016/02/remote-level-control-in-serilog-using-seq/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 May 2017 at 09:16, Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> can anyone recommend a log server they know and love? (theres a myriad of
> options out there!)
>
>
>
> I use Azure Tables as a logging destination. Last year I wrote a log4net
> appender which buffers and delivers rows in efficient batches, and I think
> there are similar public addons for other popular log frameworks. No
> infrastructure or config needed, very fast, vast capacity, dirt cheap -- *Greg
> K*
>
>
>

Re: log server [OT]

[William Luu]

Have you considered Serilog and Seq?

Serilog - https://serilog.net/
Seq - https://getseq.net/


You can use Serilog for logging to all the places you need to (so log
files, event log, etc and directly to Seq) and then view them directly in
Seq.
See: https://docs.getseq.net/v3/docs/using-serilog
And https://nblumhardt.com/2014/06/durable-log-shipping-from-serilog-to-seq/

https://nblumhardt.com/2016/02/remote-level-control-in-serilog-using-seq/



On 11 May 2017 at 09:16, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> can anyone recommend a log server they know and love? (theres a myriad of
>> options out there!)
>>
>
> I use Azure Tables as a logging destination. Last year I wrote a log4net
> appender which buffers and delivers rows in efficient batches, and I think
> there are similar public addons for other popular log frameworks. No
> infrastructure or config needed, very fast, vast capacity, dirt cheap -- *Greg
> K*
>

Re: SPA decision

[William Luu]

Semi-related, thought this article might interest some in here:
https://trackchanges.postlight.com/modern-javascript-for-ancient-web-developers-58e7cae050f9



On 6 April 2017 at 10:34, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> The SPA site is, a youg devloppers wet dream of technologies, Gulp, Less,
>> you name it it's in there.  The code is buggy and never does what you
>> expect it to do.
>>
>
> You have decorated part of my reason for not going SPA for the new demo.
> In my reading of blogs and forums I've seen a lot of chatter complaining
> about this sort of thing.
>
>
>> This morning, I'm trying to figure out why the Less styles don't output
>> the correct css on my machine but on the build server everything is working
>> fine.
>>
>
> Wry ha! Less ... a thing based upon an old thing an dinfluenced by another
> thing, now in JavaScript, solving a problem that shouldn't have existed in
> the first place, generating something which generates something else. It's
> a farce.
>
> *GK*
>

Re: Ozdotnet list

[William Luu]

I don't contribute here much either, but still read it whenever there's
some interesting discussion.

I welcome the move. However, I think most people would jump straight to
their favourite search engines/StackOverflow when they have an issue. So I
think that's part of why this last has become so inactive.
>From what I'm recall, this list (in its' original form as 'aus-dotnet' and
hosted by Dr Pete) had been around since .NET 1.0 (and probably earlier),
so I'd be sad to see it disappear altogether. I think I've been a member
since around 2002/3?

>From a nostalgia standpoint, I'd like to see the same name continue but
make it clear that we welcome all.


Will



On 4 April 2017 at 09:55, Stephen Price  wrote:

> So far no negative responses. We'll do some trialing to make sure
> Discourse is all it says.
>
> We do need to decide as a group of we wish to continue the focus on Aussie
> dotnet Devs, or expand it to include other Aussie developers. Is there a
> difference these days? Naming is important and refactoring is harder when
> it involves a domain name.
>
> What do people self promote as these days? Is it still fine calling
> yourself a DotNet developer when we spend so much time with so many other
> things these days?
>
> Personally I still identify as a .Net developer so think we should stick
> with the name we have (even though other topics are often discussed).
> Just thought I'd ask in case there are other opinions.
>
> cheers,
> Stephen
>
> On 4 Apr. 2017 7:07 am, Glen Harvy  wrote:
>
> I know I don't contribute much but I do support the move although the move
> will likely not increase participation in itself.
>
> If you want to increase participation then we will need to promote the
> echoes and if at all possible gain some support from generous benefactors.
> Getting a web site presence is step 1 as far as I can suggest.
>
> Glen.
>
> On 3/04/2017 4:30 PM, Stephen Price wrote:
>
> It's been some years since the big move to Mr Connors gracious hosting of
> the eList. Thanks for that by the way David!
>
> For whatever reason it lives on, despite the low traffic. Perhaps it's the
> entertainment value of people who live/vent there. Hard to measure. I
> expect David would have a way to tell how many people are still on the
> list.
>
> I do think Aussie developers deserve/need our own identity, and our own
> community. Well, it does exist but I do wonder if other forums might better
> suit the needs (and yet still we are here with people subscribed...).
>
> As an Admin of the current group (workload of said role is rather low. ie
> It's been almost ten years since I had to do anything Admin like. The Admin
> list seems to be gone)
>
> I've noticed that Discourse.org now exists and is open source. And Free.
> And has code highlighting built in. And also has elist delivery out of the
> box. As well as a web interface if that floats your boat. Ticks all the
> boxes from what we were looking for many years ago.
>
> Full feature list is here https://www.discourse.org/about/
>
> I'd like to propose we move to it and actively promote it once it's all up
> and running. Given the lists currently existing cover a few different
> topics, not just AusDotNet, we should move them all over. Except
> Silverlight. Don't even talk to me about that. Just don't. Ok?
>
> Seriously, stop looking at me.
>
> So how do we brand it? OzDev? Did we ever end up with a domain name? It
> would be a good time to get one if not.
>
> The best part about this is David will have to do most of the work, but if
> we still have any Admins left on this list (maybe it's just me and David?)
> assistance would be good, just put your hand up.
>
> I have a fond memory of the AusDotNet list and have been on it for my
> entire developer career. It's been invaluable. Time to bring it kicking and
> screaming into the Internet of today, a limelight for fellow Aussie
> developers both existing, and yet to be. We have a big community and I'd
> like to be able to give back to it.
>
> Will do some work on a logo (or outsource it to my daughter who'd doing a
> graphic design degree)...
>
> Discuss.
> Stephen
>
>
>
>
>

Re: FrontBase

[William Luu]

You might have more luck on their dev mailing list?
http://www.frontbase.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/FBWebSite

I did a Google search on the error message (Wrong magic number) in your
stackexchange post and found these:
- https://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2010/Sep/msg00706.html
- https://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2010/Sep/msg00698.html


Which is are the only results I could find with that error message and
frontbase.

Did a bit more searching around importing backup to another platform, which
yielded the below:

"Can I export a database with WRITE ALL OUTPUT and then import it on
another platform?
Yes. When you perform a WRITE ALL OUTPUT you will be exporting into a flat
file that can be subsequently imported on any supported platform"

via
http://www.frontbase.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/FBWebSite.woa/1/wa/supportPage?currentPage=Faqs=2






On 24 March 2017 at 21:42, Craig van Nieuwkerk  wrote:

> The biggest issue I have so far is I can't restore the database. See my
> question here
>
> http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/167306/restoring-a-
> frontbase-database
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Preet Sangha 
> wrote:
>
>> Never used it myself - but looking through the docs I think i supports
>> ODBC, to perhaps you can use a tools like MS Query/Access etc to access it?
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> Preet, in Auckland NZ
>>
>>
>> On 24 March 2017 at 23:14, Craig van Nieuwkerk  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a backup of a FrontBase (http://www.frontbase.com) database that
>>> I am trying to access. Does anyone have any experience with this? I have
>>> tried using the tools from their website to restore but to no avail.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Craig
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] Surface Studio

[William Luu]

Gabe of Penny Arcade posted a review based on his perspective as a Cintiq
user

https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surface-studio

"Tycho asked me to compare it to my Cintiq, and I told him that drawing on
the Cintiq now felt like drawing on a piece of dirty plexiglass hovering
over a CRT monitor from 1997. "



On Friday, 28 October 2016, Scott Barnes  wrote:

> I paid $4k for my CINTIQ Wacom 27" HD so if this can replace it,
> i'm open to the spend but it has to live up to the promise though.
>
> The rest of the announceables were pretty much meh.
>
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:31 AM, David Connors  > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 at 06:43 Andrew Tobin > > wrote:
>>
>>> What do we think of the Surface Studio?  I've long said that it'll be
>>> great when we have that sort of touch interface directly in front of us to
>>> manipulate...
>>>
>>> My thinking is it'd be more powerful if instead of moving from the
>>> tilted position to vertical, if you had one or more screens vertically and
>>> had Kinect or similar to "drag" windows down to be manipulated directly in
>>> front of you, and then back up when just viewing.
>>>
>>> I can't imagine it'll be that far away.
>>>
>>
>> It looks excellent but at USD$3-4.5K for a desktop ... not sure it is
>> going to fly. Maybe it will find a niche but that is a pant load of cash
>> for something you can't take with you in the age of cheap
>> laptops/tablets/etc.
>>
>> Desktops are dead to me.
>>
>> David.
>> --
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
>>
>
>

Re: DDD Melbourne

[William Luu]

There's still 2 rounds of ticket sales to go. The next is on June 13th, and
then 20th. So you still have opportunities to buy tickets from the site.

On 6 June 2016 at 10:18, David Burstin  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Did anyone manage to get tickets for DDD? I was on the site refreshing
> every 5 seconds from 9:58. At 10:00 the ticket status changed from not on
> sale to unavailable! Looks like everyone had a sniper set or something.
>
> So, if anyone has a spare ticket then please let me know.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>

Re: Anyone using REST based SMS services for Australia that they can recomened

[William Luu]

I've not used it, but Frank Arrigo (who some here may remember) posted on
twitter awhile ago that Telstra have one:
* https://dev.telstra.com/sms-quick-start
* http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2015/06/03/i-%E2%99%A5-apis/

On 3 December 2015 at 17:46, Arjang Assadi  wrote:

> Hello
>
> Anyone using REST based SMS services for Australia that they can recommend?
>
> Azure based would be even better!
>
> Regards
>
> Arjang
>

Re: Sharing a database file

[William Luu]

Maybe a self-hosted API using something like NancyFX?

Eg:
http://blog.amosti.net/self-hosted-http-service-in-c-with-nancy-and-topshelf/
and also https://github.com/NancyFx/Nancy/wiki/Self-Hosting-Nancy

This is also pretty interesting too:
http://www.onegeek.com.au/articles/a-nancy-net-microservice-running-on-docker-in-under-20mb


On 11 November 2015 at 15:16, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Howdy again, I'm thinking aloud about a problem here in case there is
> lateral thinking available.
>
> We have a mature app that uses a single-file database that is locked. Now
> new apps want to use this file as well, but how can they share it? The
> usual fix would be to (1) Migrate it into something like SQL Server (2)
> Wrap the file in code in a different process and expose it as a service.
>
> Option 1 has too many dependencies that aren't available. Option 2 is easy
> to code, but you have to manage the lifetime of the process and perhaps
> make it a Windows Service, which makes a bigger install and runtime
> footprint.
>
> At the moment I'm wondering if the "service" could be a hidden console or
> WinForms app that is registered in HKLM Run, or similar. That way it's a
> "fake lightweight service".
>
> *Greg K*
>

Re: [OT] Cable IP address

[William Luu]

You can set that modem to bridge mode than then use another router that all 
your devices behind that.




It's an option if you want better wifi than from that Netgear modem.



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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Thanks folks, that help confirm the chat in the forums. If the IP changes
> at monthly intervals, perhaps after a power failure or something else rare
> then I can live with just updating my 6 DNS records at VentralIP manually.
> I don't want to go back to using something like DynDns, as I used them
> about 10 years ago and they went from free to $10/month, but the worst
> thing is that it's just more *stuff* to manage and remember.
> I have no choice of modem, they gave me a "slab" Netgear Gateway Max with
> pretty blinking lights.
> *GK*
> On 28 October 2015 at 18:17, Greg Low (罗格雷格博士)  wrote:
>> Yep correct - rarely changes - just get a reliable DDNS service and a
>> decent modem/router that "gets" DDNS. We use a DOCSUS 3 modem in bridge
>> mode then have a Billion box plugged into it. Seems to work well and we can
>> get to our NAS through it just fine. However, bit by bit we're moving it
>> all to Azure anyway so hope soon to not care about local IP address.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>> SQL Down Under
>> +61 419201410
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300775775)
>>
>> > On 28 Oct 2015, at 5:11 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>> >
>> > Folks, I had a Telstra cable modem installed this morning, but I haven't
>> switched over to it yet because I don't know how it allocates IP addresses.
>> I will have to update my DNS records to point the world to my home server.
>> Web searches hint that the IP only changes if the modem is disconnected for
>> "an extended period of time". Some hint that this period is days. Some
>> people hint that the IP is "sticky" and will rarely change in practise. Can
>> anyone confirm that this is actually the cable IP behaviour?
>> >
>> > Greg K
>>

Re: [OT] WPF or Winforms?

[William Luu]

I thought VS Code was built on top of Electron (which is just a shell)?

"Visual Studio Code (I call it VSCode, myself) is a new free developer
tool. It's a code editor, but a very smart one. It's cross-platform, built
with TypeScript and Electron, and runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux."
via:
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/IntroducingVisualStudioCodeForWindowsMacAndLinux.aspx

With the editor layer above that called Monaco (
http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/a-quick-look-at-the-new-visual-studio-online-quot-monaco-quot-code-editor
).

And then you have OmniSharp  as the C#
intellisense provider (
https://code.visualstudio.com/updates#_languages-c35-on-omnisharp-111).

On 25 September 2015 at 15:12, Corneliu I. Tusnea 
wrote:

> Nope. They are dead. (As far as I'm concerned) unless you really really
> really really need to go down that crazy path.
>
> If you really really want a desktop app I'd look into
> http://electron.atom.io/ to run a cross-platform "desktop" app build with
> web technologies on top of Chrome.
> Atom editor is build like that. Visual Studio Code is build in a similar
> fashion but not on top of electron but pretty much identical process.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>
>> Anyone here still using winforms? Any reason to start new projects in
>> winforms over WPF? How far has WPF come in the last several years?
>>
>
>

Re: TypeScript summary

[William Luu]

Jake Ginnivan gave a talk on React during DDD Melbourne recently, a video
of it was posted recently if anyone is interested in that.
http://tv.ssw.com/6369/why-react-really-is-different-jake-ginnivan-ddd-melbourne-2015

On 26 August 2015 at 12:10, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't mind knowing what is so good about React. I'm not enjoying the
> syntax of React so far. At the moment if I was to build a new substantial
> app it would be using Angular. I feel that you can write some pretty
> substantial applications in Angular. Having had a dabble with React, I
> don't get the same feeling, so I am wondering if the hype is bigger than
> the product itself?
>
> I know React is more about the V in MVC and Angular covers the entire MVC
> pattern in Javascript, but I am trying to understand - are they still
> essentially trying to solve a similar problem? I can go without using C#
> MVC applications at all (excepting WebApi) with Angular, so is the
> difference that React is meant to be used in conjunction with C# MVC
> solutions?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:57 AM, William Luu <will@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> RE: DOM manipulation.
>>
>> Here's a (intro and) comparison between DOM manipulation jQuery and React
>>
>> http://reactfordesigners.com/labs/reactjs-introduction-for-people-who-know-just-enough-jquery-to-get-by/
>>
>> On 26 August 2015 at 10:03, Bec C <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for Greg's comments. Coming from a sql background I found it
>>> relatively easy to jump into c# and .net but my jump to JS wasn't so smooth
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope this is my final essay on JavaScript (and so do you!). In
>>>> summary, a few weeks ago I volunteered to write an in-browser script driven
>>>> demo app which is simply a navigation stack of 4 screens. Angular is so
>>>> currently so trendy I spent several hours attempting to learn and use it,
>>>> but due to lack of an IDE, no debugging, no guidance, the custom terse
>>>> syntax and complex dependencies I gave up (then I learn it's being
>>>> rewritten in TypeScript anyway). I've expressed my anger at the 'zoo' of
>>>> uncoordinated and competing JS libraries.
>>>>
>>>> I spent all of yesterday optimistically studying and trying TypeScript,
>>>> as the familiar IDE and structure seemed ideal for someone from a
>>>> C++/Java/C# background. Given my belief that the JS world is really
>>>> chaotic, my overall conclusion is:
>>>>
>>>> *TypeScript is organised chaos.*
>>>>
>>>> I was reminded of moving from C to C++ 20 years ago. C was so freeform
>>>> you could write spaghetti. C++ helped you write object oriented modular
>>>> spaghetti. Just like that, TS is trying to tame the JS spaghetti and make
>>>> it feel OOPish and respectable to people with my background, but it's still
>>>> just putting a wedding gown on a pig.
>>>>
>>>> The good news is though, that once I eventually found guidance on how
>>>> to organise multiple TS source files, how to use module { } like
>>>> namespaces, when to use the , and why you use --out to concat
>>>> files, then TS is probably the least worst option I've seen so far for
>>>> writing large JS apps. At least you will finish up with organised modular
>>>> chaos.
>>>>
>>>> So you might be able to tame JS with TS, but we are still stuck with
>>>> the cumbersome DOM and jQuery. While trying to give my web page app
>>>> behaviour I had to have jQuery reference web pages continuously open so I
>>>> could remember the arcane and inconsistent syntax to do the simplest things
>>>> like toggling visibility or setting text or class attributes. This isn't
>>>> really a JS related problem, but I find manipulating the DOM from JS and
>>>> jQuery tedious beyond endurance.
>>>> In fact my endurance is exhausted. I will not write the demo and have
>>>> commissioned someone else to do it. They write this sort of thing for a
>>>> living, so I look forward to learning how they do it. I've learnt a lot in
>>>> recent weeks anyway and have decided that for future work like this I will
>>>> use TS and jQuery because they're the least worst (for now), and the rest
>>>> of the JS ecosystem can go to hell.
>>>>
>>>> *Greg K*
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Powershell UI + tabs

[William Luu]

I'm using cmder (http://cmder.net) for Powershell and cmd.

On 9 September 2015 at 13:48, Corneliu I. Tusnea 
wrote:

> Oh yes, that looks awesome. Thanks!!!
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
>> Console2 for all your command line needs.
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 at 11:20 Corneliu I. Tusnea 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there a lightweight powershell UI that has tabs so I can have
>>> multiple tabs open?
>>>
>>> Google searches yield random useless results.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Corneliu.
>>>
>>>
>

Re: TypeScript summary

[William Luu]

RE: DOM manipulation.

Here's a (intro and) comparison between DOM manipulation jQuery and React
http://reactfordesigners.com/labs/reactjs-introduction-for-people-who-know-just-enough-jquery-to-get-by/

On 26 August 2015 at 10:03, Bec C bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 for Greg's comments. Coming from a sql background I found it relatively
 easy to jump into c# and .net but my jump to JS wasn't so smooth


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Greg Keogh gfke...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope this is my final essay on JavaScript (and so do you!). In summary,
 a few weeks ago I volunteered to write an in-browser script driven demo app
 which is simply a navigation stack of 4 screens. Angular is so currently so
 trendy I spent several hours attempting to learn and use it, but due to
 lack of an IDE, no debugging, no guidance, the custom terse syntax and
 complex dependencies I gave up (then I learn it's being rewritten in
 TypeScript anyway). I've expressed my anger at the 'zoo' of uncoordinated
 and competing JS libraries.

 I spent all of yesterday optimistically studying and trying TypeScript,
 as the familiar IDE and structure seemed ideal for someone from a
 C++/Java/C# background. Given my belief that the JS world is really
 chaotic, my overall conclusion is:

 *TypeScript is organised chaos.*

 I was reminded of moving from C to C++ 20 years ago. C was so freeform
 you could write spaghetti. C++ helped you write object oriented modular
 spaghetti. Just like that, TS is trying to tame the JS spaghetti and make
 it feel OOPish and respectable to people with my background, but it's still
 just putting a wedding gown on a pig.

 The good news is though, that once I eventually found guidance on how to
 organise multiple TS source files, how to use module { } like namespaces,
 when to use the reference, and why you use --out to concat files, then TS
 is probably the least worst option I've seen so far for writing large JS
 apps. At least you will finish up with organised modular chaos.

 So you might be able to tame JS with TS, but we are still stuck with the
 cumbersome DOM and jQuery. While trying to give my web page app behaviour I
 had to have jQuery reference web pages continuously open so I could
 remember the arcane and inconsistent syntax to do the simplest things like
 toggling visibility or setting text or class attributes. This isn't really
 a JS related problem, but I find manipulating the DOM from JS and jQuery
 tedious beyond endurance.
 In fact my endurance is exhausted. I will not write the demo and have
 commissioned someone else to do it. They write this sort of thing for a
 living, so I look forward to learning how they do it. I've learnt a lot in
 recent weeks anyway and have decided that for future work like this I will
 use TS and jQuery because they're the least worst (for now), and the rest
 of the JS ecosystem can go to hell.

 *Greg K*

Re: Best unit testing tools

[William Luu]

We're reviewing what to use for a new project and I'm leaning towards the
below:

Unit testing framework: xunit (2.0 was recently released)
Mocking: FakeItEasy

Also, take a look at AutoFixture.

See -
https://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/2015/03/24/clean-tests-isolation-with-fakes/


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 21:49 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

What are people using these days to unit test code dot net code, and if not
visual studio, why?

Regards Tony



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Re: Best unit testing tools

[William Luu]

Perhaps start from the first post of that series -
https://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/2015/01/29/clean-tests-a-primer/

The author mentions Fixie, which is a fairly new testing framework -
http://fixie.github.io


On 30 March 2015 at 22:23, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote:

 We're reviewing what to use for a new project and I'm leaning towards the
 below:

 Unit testing framework: xunit (2.0 was recently released)
 Mocking: FakeItEasy

 Also, take a look at AutoFixture.

 See -
 https://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/2015/03/24/clean-tests-isolation-with-fakes/



 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 21:49 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 What are people using these days to unit test code dot net code, and if
 not visual studio, why?

 Regards Tony



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Re: Good code to read

[William Luu]

Perhaps just search through the various github repositories with the search
parameter language:C#.

Eg:
https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=language%3AC%23type=Repositoriesref=advsearchl=C%23

And then add words like CMS
https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=language%3AC%23+CMStype=Repositoriesref=searchresults,
Store
https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=language%3AC%23+Storetype=Repositoriesref=searchresults,
Forum
https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=language%3AC%23+Forumtype=Repositoriesref=searchresults,
etc.

A few random ones I've found that might interest you:
* ASP.NET MiniBlog - https://github.com/madskristensen/miniblog
* MVC Forum - https://github.com/leen3o/mvcforum

While not using ASP.NET MVC, JabbR might be worth looking at too -
https://github.com/JabbR/JabbR/tree/dev/JabbR
It uses SignalR, NancyFx


On 16 December 2014 at 23:30, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.com
wrote:

 http://www.funnelweblog.com/ is good
 +1 for ayende (ravendb source anyone?)

 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks William I am checking out the mvc source code now actually but
 wanted maybe a good non trivial web app and not a framework as such.

 Thanks
 Tom


 On 16 December 2014 at 17:45, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote:

 How about reading the source code for ASP.NET MVC (vNext/6)? :)

 https://github.com/aspnet/mvc/

 To be honest, I'm not too sure on what projects.

 Maybe Orchard CMS? http://orchard.codeplex.com/

 On 16 December 2014 at 16:51, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Obviously you all write some killer code but can someone recommend some
 really good open source code I can read and learn from? Preferably
 ASP.NET MVC with some mobile support.

 Thanks
 Tom

Re: Good code to read

[William Luu]

How about reading the source code for ASP.NET MVC (vNext/6)? :)

https://github.com/aspnet/mvc/

To be honest, I'm not too sure on what projects.

Maybe Orchard CMS? http://orchard.codeplex.com/

On 16 December 2014 at 16:51, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Obviously you all write some killer code but can someone recommend some
 really good open source code I can read and learn from? Preferably ASP.NET
 MVC with some mobile support.

 Thanks
 Tom

Re: vs2013 community edition performance

[William Luu]

Nah, VS won't run on a Mac.

But there's a cool project called omnisharp, which will give you
intellisense support in text editors (such as sublime, atom, brackets, vim,
emacs and others) on other platforms like Linux and OS X.
http://www.omnisharp.net



On 14 November 2014 11:06, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote:

 Yeah, some great stuff happening in the .Net space. I particularly liked
 the plans to support Mac and Linux, as well as Xamarin (free version) will
 work in Visual Studio.
 I wonder if that means Visual Studio will run on a Mac?

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I was very pleased to learn about the 2013 community edition which was
 announced yesterday - the main reason because it supports resharper which I
 need.

 However since installing it I've found the performance of opening/closing
 files and switching files to be woefully slow. Its like click...wait wait
 wait, yes now its open. it is very hard to work with it like this and have
 reverted to 2012.

 I've tried every single suggestion on this related stackoverflow post[1]
 however none improves it! I've also tried uninstalling resharper, dotcover,
 dotTrace etc with no success.

 Does anyone have a similar experience?



 [1]: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19617670/why-vs-2013-is-very-slow

Re: Opinions sought on Xamarin

[William Luu]

There's a free preview of a Xamarin Forms book being written by Charles Petzold 
if anyone is interested - 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2014/10/06/free-ebook-creating-mobile-apps-with-xamarin-forms-preview-edition.aspx
 

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On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice blog post... but if they had just used Xamarin their job would have
 been alot easier.
 They wouldn't of had to write their own persistance layer, with Xamarin you
 can use the Native SQLite instances. Their serious backend code eg Offline,
 Caching, would have been able to use C# and the full .net framework.
 Actually the project I'm working on at the moment is more complicated than
 the dropbox app, more feature with offline support etc and I've been
 able to implement as a single developer...
 For serious applications Xamarin is hands down the best!
 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote:
 On a related note, Dropbox used C++ for their Android/iOS apps -
 http://oleb.net/blog/2014/05/how-dropbox-uses-cplusplus-cross-platform-development/


 On 24 October 2014 15:22, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://ionicframework.com/


 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 ... but that said, Xamarin is pretty heavy weight, it's s big learning
 curve.. if you want something lightweight and 'pretty' good you should try
 out Ionic...




 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Go Xamarin it's the best! (Opinion may be bias www.michaelridland.com)

 Traditional Xamarin (Native API) as the platform is awesome and solid
 and fast, the IDE and some of the tools around it can be a bit buggy.
 Xamarin.Forms is pretty early, and can be frustrating but I have build 
 some
 XPlat app pretty rapidly with it.

 Actually I'm doing a 'Introduction to Xamarin' at SydMobile in a few
 weeks, you should come along I'd love to answer any questions you have.
 http://www.meetup.com/SydMobile/

 Below is a unpublished blog post on why you should use Xamarin...

 *Should I use Xamarin for Mobile Development? YES you should!*

 In my opinion you'd be insane if you didn't use Xamarin for mobile
 development. Many people don't know what they're missing out on by not
 using Xamarin so I'm going to highlight some reasons I think people
 should be using Xamarin.
 1) It's Native but with 80%+ code share?

 So for those that aren't aware of Xamarin or how it works, Xamarin allows
 you to develop apps for iOS, Android and Mac from a single code base. When
 I say this I don't mean in a webview or customised API, it actually
 usesthe Native APIs. So when developing you use UITableView which is
 the same API that a native developer would be using.
 2) C# and F# are Modern languages

 C# might not be the hipster language of the year it is a continually
 evolving language with solid features like type interference, dynamic
 types,  language integrated query (LINQ), async/await and first class
 functions. C# is designed for developing large robust applications.

 And for the functional types there's F#, which from what I've been told
 it's like scala but faster and better thought out.

 I'd argue they're better languages than java, javascript and
 objective-c... and seeing that they're currently the only languages with
 built in async you could say their even better than swift...
 3) async/await

 .. 'wait but javascript is all async' i hear you say...  C#/F#
 async/await is different to what people normally think async is. C#/F#
 async/await tackles the callback hell problems in rich clients, anyone who
 works with rich clients will know of these problems. This is a problem
 that's attempted to be solved with promises and generators but neither are
 at the level of async/await.

 Here's a little before/after sample:

 *Before:*

 doAsync1(function () {

   doAsync2(function () {

  doAsync3(function () {

 doAsync4(function () {
   })
  })
})
 })

 *After:*

 await doAsync1()
 await doAsync2()
 await doAsync3()
 await doAsync4()
 4) Watches, Google Glass wearables and the future of devices.

 In case you haven't noticed the future isn't just mobiles it's
 wearables, devices and IOT. Xamarin has same day support for all these
 platforms including android wear, google glass, Amazon TV and more. As 
 I've
 said beforeXamarin uses the Native APIs and compiles down to native
 so using Xamarin you're in the perfect position develop all modern
 platforms.
 5) It's ready now!

 All the time I hear people say 'html is a fast moving target' or 'it
 will get there eventually'. Xamarin is here now, it's Native and it's
 cross platform. Why wait to have a great app when you can have it now and
 as a bonus know that your application is future proof for future devices.
 6) It's fast and stable

 From personal experience the Xamarin traditional (Xamarin.iOS and
 Xamarin.Android

Re: Opinions sought on Xamarin

[William Luu]

On a related note, Dropbox used C++ for their Android/iOS apps -
http://oleb.net/blog/2014/05/how-dropbox-uses-cplusplus-cross-platform-development/


On 24 October 2014 15:22, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://ionicframework.com/


 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 ... but that said, Xamarin is pretty heavy weight, it's s big learning
 curve.. if you want something lightweight and 'pretty' good you should try
 out Ionic...




 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Go Xamarin it's the best! (Opinion may be bias www.michaelridland.com)

 Traditional Xamarin (Native API) as the platform is awesome and solid
 and fast, the IDE and some of the tools around it can be a bit buggy.
 Xamarin.Forms is pretty early, and can be frustrating but I have build some
 XPlat app pretty rapidly with it.

 Actually I'm doing a 'Introduction to Xamarin' at SydMobile in a few
 weeks, you should come along I'd love to answer any questions you have.
 http://www.meetup.com/SydMobile/

 Below is a unpublished blog post on why you should use Xamarin...

 *Should I use Xamarin for Mobile Development? YES you should!*

 In my opinion you'd be insane if you didn't use Xamarin for mobile
 development. Many people don't know what they're missing out on by not
 using Xamarin so I'm going to highlight some reasons I think people
 should be using Xamarin.
 1) It's Native but with 80%+ code share?

 So for those that aren't aware of Xamarin or how it works, Xamarin allows
 you to develop apps for iOS, Android and Mac from a single code base. When
 I say this I don't mean in a webview or customised API, it actually usesthe
 Native APIs. So when developing you use UITableView which is the same
 API that a native developer would be using.
 2) C# and F# are Modern languages

 C# might not be the hipster language of the year it is a continually
 evolving language with solid features like type interference, dynamic
 types,  language integrated query (LINQ), async/await and first class
 functions. C# is designed for developing large robust applications.

 And for the functional types there's F#, which from what I've been told
 it's like scala but faster and better thought out.

 I'd argue they're better languages than java, javascript and
 objective-c... and seeing that they're currently the only languages with
 built in async you could say their even better than swift...
 3) async/await

 .. 'wait but javascript is all async' i hear you say...  C#/F#
 async/await is different to what people normally think async is. C#/F#
 async/await tackles the callback hell problems in rich clients, anyone who
 works with rich clients will know of these problems. This is a problem
 that's attempted to be solved with promises and generators but neither are
 at the level of async/await.

 Here's a little before/after sample:

 *Before:*

 doAsync1(function () {

   doAsync2(function () {

  doAsync3(function () {

 doAsync4(function () {
   })
  })
})
 })

 *After:*

 await doAsync1()
 await doAsync2()
 await doAsync3()
 await doAsync4()
 4) Watches, Google Glass wearables and the future of devices.

 In case you haven't noticed the future isn't just mobiles it's
 wearables, devices and IOT. Xamarin has same day support for all these
 platforms including android wear, google glass, Amazon TV and more. As I've
 said beforeXamarin uses the Native APIs and compiles down to native
 so using Xamarin you're in the perfect position develop all modern
 platforms.
 5) It's ready now!

 All the time I hear people say 'html is a fast moving target' or 'it
 will get there eventually'. Xamarin is here now, it's Native and it's
 cross platform. Why wait to have a great app when you can have it now and
 as a bonus know that your application is future proof for future devices.
 6) It's fast and stable

 From personal experience the Xamarin traditional (Xamarin.iOS and
 Xamarin.Android) platform is solid, fast and stable. You'd be hard
 pressed to find a problem with the core parts of the platform, any app bugs
 will probably be your own bugs.
 7) Documentation

 The documentation for Xamarin is solid, it's generally better than the
 Apple and Android documentation.
 8) Xamarin.Forms

 So how about 100% codeshare and still be Native? Xamarin.Forms allows
 you to program against a single API and have that single API mapped to
 native controls on each platform. Hanselman describes it well, 'Write Once
 Run Everywhere AND Be Native'.

 It's still early days for the product but the top component developers
 like Telerik and DevExpress are already developing components for
 Xamarin.Forms.
 9) It's the best of all worlds (Hybrid and Native)

 If you've taken a look at my Xamarin mashup blog
 http://www.michaelridland.com/mobile/asp-net-mvc-xamarin-mashups/ you'd
 already know that the possibilities with Xamarin are vast, you can
 essential create your own Cordova 

Re: PDF and .doc generators for websites

[William Luu]

Hi Greg,

Another option is Open XML SDK for Office docs.

https://github.com/OfficeDev/Open-XML-SDK
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/bb448854.aspx

Andrew Coates did a session on it at Tech Ed.

Cheers,

Will


On 22 October 2014 15:14, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been using ABCPDF for years in a Webforms environment. It's worked
 very well, it's fast and does everything we need it to do.

 On 22 October 2014 13:43, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote:

  Hi Folks,



 Anyone got strong opinions on particular PDF and .doc generators for use
 with MVC ?



 Regards,



 Greg



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 fax

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Re: [OT] Quiet

[William Luu]

Tech moves quickly.

But C# is far from legacy, it is a mature, yet still evolving language.

C# 6 is coming - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dn683793.aspx and
http://roslyn.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=CSharp%20Language%20Design%20NotesreferringTitle=Documentation
And some short videos on it -
https://www.wintellectnow.com/course/detail/what-s-new-in-c-6-visual-basic-dotnet-14-and-visual-studio-14




On 19 September 2014 10:01, Bec Carter bec.usern...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just the other day a friend of mine mentioned how at a meeting with the
 big guns at her office they were referring to C# as legacy. Am I now the
 new VB6 equivalent? N. Help.


 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?


 Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and
 no one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is
 now a ninja guru and have no questions.


 Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?


 No surface, however I was going to take my wife's brand new iPad to a
 meeting today to take notes, but I couldn't even figure out to close a
 browser window on it, so I'll come back to the idea later.

 *Greg*

Re: [OT] Purchasing an iPad

[William Luu]

If she doesn't need the newest, and is okay with a factory second. Then
go for a refurbished model -
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad

The latest full sized iPad is the iPad Air, some retailers still offer the
previous model - The iPad 4 (I think JB Hifi have them).


On 27 June 2014 10:10, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, my wife is an editor and technical writer, and she just told me she
 needs an iPad quickly for her work. We are not familiar with the language,
 conventions or pricing of the Apple world. To hopefully avoid being robbed
 blind, can anyone here suggest the best way to chose and purchase an iPad?

 By comparison, a few months ago I purchased a Nexus-5 phone from the
 Google online store thanks to sage advice from my nephew and it was $300
 cheaper than walking into a Telstra shop and buying one. I wouldn't want to
 fall into a similar trap by maybe walking into an Apple store.

 Cheers,
 Greg K

Re: [OT] Browser use

[William Luu]

Though Chrome is my main browser and has been for awhile, I recently
switched over to using Firefox (Aurora channel) for dev stuff.

The main reason was to have a look at the recent additions to their dev
tools
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/editable-box-model-multiple-selection-sublime-text-keys-much-more-firefox-developer-tools-episode-31/



On 22 May 2014 14:20, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote:

 You can't even lodge a BAS return here in Australia with IE11 and if you
 talk to the ATO, they just say Use Chrome.

 Wish it wasn't so.

Re: payment gateways

[William Luu]

I've never used one, but there was a bit of hype around PIN 
(https://pin.net.au) when it launched.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
wrote:

 Hey all,
 Hope good Easter is being had by all :)
 I'm going to need some kind of payment gateway and would love to know if
 anyone has any good/bad experiences with them.
 Looking for something that deals with Australian banks, as well as has a
 good .Net friendly API.
 Have been looking at what eWay can do but don't want to rush in with the
 first I've come across without some research.
 cheers,
 Stephen

Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment?

[William Luu]

Do you know what style earphones you want? In ear, over ear etc?


Do you want something with cables or a wireless bluetooth option?

On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au
wrote:

 Hi All
 So that I can concentrate better, I am trying to filter out the mouse
 clicking sound from person at the desk next to me.
 Has anyone any tech recommendations on how to do this?
 Thanks
 Kirsten

Re: Authenticating with third party providers in MVC5

[William Luu]

Hi Tony,


While I don't know too much about these social/3rd party logins, there's an 
open source .net library that does what you've implemented. So perhaps download 
their lib and see if it works the way you expect it to with regards to the 
logout.




See: https://github.com/SimpleAuthentication/SimpleAuthentication




Cheers,




Will

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 I have implemented third-party login in my MVC app. I can log in using
 google, facebook and twitter.
  
 When I click the Logout button, it logs out from my application, but not
 from the third-party provider.
  
 To log out from the third-party provider, I usually need to go directly to
 that provider's page and log it out.
  
 Is this a normal behaviour that should be acceptable, or is there some sort
 of call I should be making to get it to log out the third-party provider?
  
 Regards,
 Tony
  

Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1

[William Luu]

Apparently Telstra are trying to get them (Chromecasts) into Australia -
http://techgeek.com.au/2014/02/10/telstra-talks-google-launch-chromecast-australia/


On 29 January 2014 21:06, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote:

 XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like
 most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with
 promises and slow releases...


 I think you've just described every OSS everything.


 Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until
 eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour
 this..


 Yeah you're right about XBMC v1 ... it was revolutionary at the time. I am
 unsure how much (conceptually) it has moved on. At the end of the day I
 have a decreasing tolerance for dealing with other people's UX bullshit and
 cognitive dissonance when I just want to watch some fricking video. My wife
 doesn't know what a codec is and most certainly doesn't give a shit why
 there is an error relating to one on her TV.

 As far as 'the future' goes ChromeCast has the model right - basic
 rendering and not in the way of your relationship with your content
 provider and weapon of choice. The largest screen in the house has been
 reduced to being a rendering surface for a $35 dongle (I'll leave it to you
 to argue about who is the first, second or third screen).

 The value will always be with the content provider and curation - which is
 more of what I pay an outrageous sum to Foxtel each month for, than shitty
 over-compressed 1080i video.

  David.

Re: What are the Mocking/Testing frameworks/patterns de jour?

[William Luu]

I'm using R#/Ms Test with Moq.

I've seen several recommendations lately of another mocking framework
called FakeItEasy - http://fakeiteasy.github.io

Never used it, but thought I'd mention it.



On 9 December 2013 03:05, Davy Jones djones...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use ncrunch as well, and I love it. It does slow my machine down when it
 does a full build, but it gets you into the habit of writing small quick
 unit tests as they run much faster.

 I've convinced my team into using Specflow and watin when developing new
 code. Since implementing BDD we have less bugs and are delivering the code
 much faster than before.

 Davy

 Sent from my starfleet datapad.

 On 8 déc. 2013, at 15:37, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, some of us do. I've found that when you get into the zone it's amazing
 for productivity to not have to stop and run unit tests. The speed of the
 app is very decent. Also does a code coverage stat - not quite as good as
 dotcover but it's faster.

 There is a free alternative that I tried and really disliked - can't
 remember what it's called but in case you find one.


 On 9 December 2013 03:31, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dave Walker do you (and/or your colleagues) use ncrunch daily? Would be
 interested to hear some real world feedback on that

Re: Code commenting

[William Luu]

With Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate/TFS2013 there's a new feature called
CodeLens which will probably give you something similar to what you're
after.

See -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/dn269218(v=vs.120).aspx
And -
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/zainnab/archive/2013/07/09/visual-studio-2013-preview-codelens-aka-code-information-indicators.aspx

Basically, there is functionality to show you recent changes, by who and
the checkin comment.


On 13 September 2013 15:11, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anthony, you're asking about some form of automated tool and seriously
 you're not using the annotate function within TFS?






 On 13 September 2013 16:55, anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote:

 I like to comment code and remove some of them after a while.  

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 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk
 *Sent:* Friday, 13 September 2013 2:50 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Code commenting

 ** **

 A lot of source control systems give you that out of the box. I know Git
 and SVN both do with the BLAME command. I wouldn't want the comments
 scattered throughout the code.

 ** **

 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:45 PM, anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote:

 Anyone suggest a method to autmaticlly comment code when lines have
 changed?  Would be great to be able to see who changed what when viewing
 the code.

  

 At the moment,, we write comments like //xxMOD 12AUG13   XX=PROGRAMMER
 INITIALS

  

 WE use TFS but we like to write comments in code sometimes.  Any
 extensions able to do this?

  

 Anthony

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Re: 3rd party component for sftp

[William Luu]

I'm using SSH.NET, which is hosted on codeplex

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Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Tristan Reeves tree...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi List,
 Does anyone know of a good 3rd party (free + OS) component that can do
 sftp? I was using ftplib for ftp but it seems it can't do anything
 with sftp.
 Also I do not want to use FtpWebRequest.
 Thanks,
 Tristan.

Re: SQL Azure insert speed

[William Luu]

Hi Greg,

It was announced on the Red Gate twitter account recently -
https://twitter.com/redgate/status/322394630836592640


On 18 April 2013 10:14, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Hi Ian, I found this:

 http://www.cerebrata.com/labs/azure-explorer

 But I can't find a Red Gate Azure Explorer, unless this is the same thing.
 I have been playing with Azure Storage Explorer version 5 preview 1 from
 Neudesic, which is simple and clean, but I haven't pushed it very hard.

 Wait, hang on, the installer is telling me that Azure Explorer publisher
 is Red Gate, so it is the same thing. I'll give it a try, but will Red Gate
 eventually make us pay for it? Hmmm.

 Greg K

Re: vs 2010 and 2012

[William Luu]

My last reason for using VS 2010 whilst still having VS 2012 installed was
due to lack of Crystal Reports support in the new IDE.

Thankfully, they've finally released an update that supports 2012 in the
last couple of days. So now I no longer have a reason to use VS 2010.

On 17 January 2013 00:54, Katherine Moss katherine.m...@gordon.edu wrote:

  The comparable edition to vproj in VS 2012 is Install Shield LE.  And
 for dialog design, if you wanted a point/click interface, you can use
 SharpSetup, though I have not figured out how to make that program produce
 straight MSI files instead only producing standard .exe files.  And then
 you could use InstallAware if you wanted to as well which also has a VS
 add-in that works with VS 2012.  

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:39 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: vs 2010 and 201

 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

  Wallace, Craig et al

  

 You may recall a few months ago I was stung by this subtle and easily
 missed change. As a migration test I opened all of my solutions in VS2012
 and ran a bulk bouild and I was surprised when it hiccuped on dozens of
 vdproj files! It's a serious impediment to quickly flipping over to VS2012
 for all our live development.

  

 There is a vdproj to WiX xml converter, but it produces reams of
 unreadable xml and I didn't bother 

  ** **

 That implies that there is readable xml. :^)

  

  persuing it further. The output is useful as a tutorial however.

  

 I was pleasantly surprised by how well WiX was integrated into VS2010 and
 managed to get a couple of simple setup projects working reasonably quickly
 thanks to their good help and examples. However, old setup projects with
 custom dialogs in them have me blocked at the moment as you have to design
 the dialogs manually with x,y positions and lengths, a really tedious and
 fragile process (is there a WiX dialog designer??). I also haven't yet
 cracked how to make a WiX installer that behaves like an old IIS setup
 project.

  

  ** **

 wix isn't bad, but why in h*ll did they have to write it in xml?  Too lazy
 to write a text parser, you think?

  

 ** **

 --
 Meski

  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv


 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
 you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills

Re: Australian Weather Web Services

[William Luu]

Hi Steven,

You should be able to use something like JSON.NET (http://json.codeplex.com/)
to convert the JSON file to XML see the documentation -
http://james.newtonking.com/projects/json/help/index.html?topic=html/ConvertingJSONandXML.htm

Regards,


William

On 28 November 2012 09:17, Steven Parish ste...@businesscraft.com wrote:

 Thanks James,

 ** **

 I tried the url and it returned JSON file OK – would prefer XML so tried
 changing the extension to .xml – but that did not work – but at least now I
 have a starting point  can start doing some reading – thanks for your help
 

 ** **

 *Regards,*

 *Steven Parish***

 ** **

 *Software Architect | BusinessCraft Pty Ltd | www.businesscraft.com*

 Tel: (02) 4965  | Mob: 0417 688 599 | Fax: (02) 4965 5333 | Level 1,
 270 Turton Road, New Lambton, NSW 2305
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 *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 November 2012 9:13 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* RE: Australian Weather Web Services

 ** **

 Hi Steven,

 ** **

 If you're looking for observational data then the BoM provides free data
 in a variety of formats.

 ** **

 Here's Adelaide in JSON format:
 http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDS60901/IDS60901.94675.json.

 ** **

 Does that help?

 ** **

 Cheers.

 ** **

 James.

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
 mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Parish
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 November 2012 08:33
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Australian Weather Web Services

 ** **

 Hi,

 ** **

 We have a requirement to retrieve weather information on a daily basis for
 several Australian locations and was wondering what Web Services others may
 have had some success with – free would be preferred – but being a
 commercial requirement our clients would be prepared to pay a modest fee.*
 ***

 ** **

 I have had a quick look at Weather API from wundergound.com (in the USA)
 http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/  and even signed up and did a
 quick test for retrieving the current weather for AU/Sydney – this is a
 REST API and can return data in several formats including JSON  XML – so
 it looks OK and pricing is OK – but just wanted to test the water with
 other developers before jumping in – thanks for any assistance. 

 ** **

 *Regards,*

 *Steven Parish***

 ** **

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 Tel: (02) 4965  | Mob: 0417 688 599 | Fax: (02) 4965 5333 | Level 1,
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Re: open Source XMPP server in .net, good idea?

[William Luu]

And related to SignalR, have a look at Jabbr.net, which is a real time chat
built on top of SignalR - https://github.com/davidfowl/JabbR


On 20 November 2012 14:17, Katherine Moss katherine.m...@gordon.edu wrote:

  Interesting, that could work if I were creating a module to plug into a
 web site or something.  DNN modules, perhaps.  

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Katherine Moss
 *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 10:11 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* RE: open Source XMPP server in .net, good idea?

 ** **

 No.  I’ve never heard of it.  I know it has to do with ASP.net somehow
 though; I’ll have to look it up.  Thanks for the tip.  

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
 mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Filip Kratochvil
 *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 9:43 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: open Source XMPP server in .net, good idea?

 ** **

 Hi Katherine,

 ** **

 Have you looked at SignalR? It's open source and could be a start for you.
 

 ** **

 HTH,

 Filip


 Regards,

 Filip Kratochvil
 mob. 0438 001 110
 http://www.dataconversions.com.au/

 

 On 20 November 2012 12:46, Katherine Moss katherine.m...@gordon.edu
 wrote:

 Hello all,

 The subject line is what we are lacking at the moment, and I am curious
 whether in a few years when I learn a bit more about C#, it would be
 possible to port the Openfire XMPP server from Ignite realtime over to
 .NET?  It is currently written in Java, and I sort of have a security and a
 political problem with that, and that is one of the reasons why I am
 setting this as a longterm goal.  But since the server depends on a couple
 of Java frameworks such as Apache Mina, and maybe another one, will that be
 an issue moving the Mina-dependent elements into WCF?  Do you guys even
 think this a good idea?  Let me know; I want to make sure that any project
 I plan to begin in the open source world will benefit the community.  

  

 Thanks,

 Katherine

 ** **

Re: Opinions of TypeScript?

[William Luu]

Agreed. Web Essentials looks cool!

On 5 October 2012 16:50, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 That's cool.


 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Heinrich Breedt 
 heinrichbre...@gmail.comwrote:

 I prefer Web Essentials:
 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/07d54d12-7133-4e15-becb-6f451ea3bea6

 Has Less, SCSS and Coffeescript support, and now with TypeScript added
 (with sourcemaps)


 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 Yeah I use SCSS would not do web without it(well now anyway) there's
 a plugin called web workbench that will auto convert to normal css on save.



 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote:

 With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called
 Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler
 - http://www.dotlesscss.org

 Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar
 on top (as well as other features).

 Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS?


  On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:

 JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6
 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may 
 actually
 high five HTML again

 On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large
 application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to 
 c#
 recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I
 don't dare say this at sydjs).

 Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but
 it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript).

 I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both
 worlds.

 Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better
 javascript programmer.





 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean 
 david.k...@microsoft.comwrote:

  While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar
 projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing
 JavaScript.

 ** **

 I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll
 love TypeScript!”

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript?

 ** **

 I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the
 only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are
 enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more?

 ** **

 Davy


 Sent from my starfleet datapad.


 On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

  Folks, I just heard about 
 TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript.
 It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m
 downloading the VS2012 
 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it 
 to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript
 development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? 
 --
 Greg







 --
 Heinrich Breedt

 “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by
 striking.” - William B. Sprague

Re: Opinions of TypeScript?

[William Luu]

One tip I found (via twitter) is to generate source map for TypeScript
which will help with debugging (In Chrome and Firefox) -
http://www.aaron-powell.com/web/typescript-source-maps

On 5 October 2012 09:23, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large
 application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c#
 recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I
 don't dare say this at sydjs).

 Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but
 it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript).

 I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both
 worlds.

 Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript
 programmer.






 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote:

  While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar
 projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript.***
 *

 ** **

 I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love
 TypeScript!”

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript?

 ** **

 I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only
 new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough
 technologies around js already why confuse matters more?

 ** **

 Davy


 Sent from my starfleet datapad.


 On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

  Folks, I just heard about 
 TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript.
 It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m
 downloading the VS2012 
 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to 
 see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript
 development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? --
 Greg

Re: Opinions of TypeScript?

[William Luu]

With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less
CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler -
http://www.dotlesscss.org

Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on
top (as well as other features).

Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS?

On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:

 JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords ..
 Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five
 HTML again

 On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large
 application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c#
 recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I
 don't dare say this at sydjs).

 Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but
 it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript).

 I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both
 worlds.

 Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript
 programmer.





 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote:

  While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar
 projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript.***
 *

 ** **

 I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love
 TypeScript!”

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript?

 ** **

 I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only
 new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough
 technologies around js already why confuse matters more?

 ** **

 Davy


 Sent from my starfleet datapad.


 On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

  Folks, I just heard about 
 TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript.
 It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m
 downloading the VS2012 
 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to 
 see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript
 development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? --
 Greg

Re: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

[William Luu]

I'd probably wait on the 4G phones to be honest.

Rumours seem to indicate that there's likely announcements in the next
month or so for Windows Phone 8 devices.

On 17 September 2012 15:04, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, I just reached the same conclusion!

 Think I'll start to suss out the 4G phones.

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 3:02 PM
 To: ozDotNet
 Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

 If you sourced it outside Telstra, you are on the 900/2100mhz edition, so
 when Telstra ended their 3G deal with Three, you lost access to the 3G
 2100 mhz network, you never were on Next G.

 So now you are stuck on their SLOW 2G / Edge network, either buy a new
 phone
 now, or wait for the new Lumia 820/920 phones.

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Tony Wright
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:46 PM
 To: 'ozDotNet'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

 Ah yes, sourced outside Telstra, before we moved to Telstra. Is there a way
 I can fix it then?

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:21 PM
 To: ozDotNet
 Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

 Samsung Omnia 7 bought from Telstra?  Or sourced outside of Telstra?

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Tony Wright
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:36 PM
 To: 'ozDotNet'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

 Well it's a Samsung Omnia 7 and I thought it was on NextG. I just
 re-registered it on the network and it's still showing Edge and sometime
 just bars (so generic 3G I guess).
 Of course, I'm in Fitzroy North, so only about 4 kms from the GPO so I
 would
 have thought the signal, and choices, would be better.
 I reckon they've decommissioned it for me, or whatever band it's using now
 is hopeless.
 T.

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
 Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:16 PM
 To: 'ozDotNet'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception

 See if this applies:

 http://www.telstra.com.au/business-enterprise/help-support/announcements/



 |-Original Message-
 |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
 |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright
 |Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:55 PM
 |To: 'ozDotNet'
 |Subject: [OT] Really bad Telstra phone reception
 |
 |Hi all,
 |
 |
 |
 |I am now experiencing really bad Telstra phone signal. It used to be
 fantastic, but
 |is now appalling. I think they've deliberately downgraded the mobile
 |phone network to make their 4G look better, but those of us that don't
 |feel the
 need to
 |upgrade our phones just yet are expected to suck it up. Is there
 |anything
 we can
 |do about it?
 |
 |
 |
 |Regards,
 |
 |Tony

Re: Melbourne .net User group

[William Luu]

MDNUG was merged with the old AusDev.NET quite awhile ago to form
Victoria.NET.

Have a look here -  http://www.eventbrite.com.au/org/599681591

On 18 September 2012 09:48, Adrian Halid adrian.ha...@itvision.com.auwrote:

 Thanks.

 ** **

 I signed up to alt.net on meetup.

 ** **

 The one that comes up in Google is Melbourne .NET User Group (or MDNUG)
 www.mdnug.org... But that looks like it’s discontinued.

 ** **

 ** **

 *Regards*

 * *

 *Adrian Halid*

 

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy P
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 September 2012 7:38 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Melbourne .net User group

 ** **

 Hit up @*MaheshKrishnan on twitter you really wanna get on the mailing
 list. I can't find thier site these days.*

 ** **

 *If your interested alt .net group is here
 http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-ALT-NET/*

 ** **


 On Tuesday, September 18, 2012, Adrian Halid wrote:

 Hi All,

  

 I am new to Melbourne and I am trying to find out when and where the .net
 user group meets.

  

  

 *Regards*

 * *

 *Adrian Halid*

  



 -- 

 Cheers,

 ** **

 Jim P

 @pjimmy

 ** **

Re: Shims

[William Luu]

Really? You need Ultimate to use Fakes? That sucks.

We're also using Moles at my workplace.

On 20 August 2012 22:28, a...@nomscon.com wrote:

 Yeah, I was bummed when I learned that Fakes required Ultimate.

 I'd used Moles from MS Research, for working with SharePoint, and was
 hoping to migrate to Fakes. Even with all the MSDN licenses at the client,
 they would not have had enough Ultimates to cover the developers and the
 build machines. They can probably still use Moles, but it looks like a dead
 end since the site claims the Fakes will replace Moles.

 It may be a better deal, financially,  to license Telerik JustMocks or
 Typemock Isolator. Both are nicer to work with than Moles, I can't speak
 for Fakes.

 BTW, Moles was the pre-cursor to MS Fakes - see:
 http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/moles/

   Original Message 
 Subject: Shims
 From: Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 Date: Mon, August 20, 2012 5:09 am
 To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com

 Hey all,

 Has anyone had a look at Shims yet? The documentation says it required
 VS2012 Ultimate. I got all excited when I read about Shims and then my
 hopes were dashed. Ultimate? Can't afford that for a sole developer. *sigh*

 cheers,
 Stephen

Re: Shims

[William Luu]

It was also posted on uservoice.com

http://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio/suggestions/2919309-provide-microsoft-fakes-with-all-visual-studio-edi


On 21 August 2012 10:40, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote:

 Really? You need Ultimate to use Fakes? That sucks.

 We're also using Moles at my workplace.


 On 20 August 2012 22:28, a...@nomscon.com wrote:

 Yeah, I was bummed when I learned that Fakes required Ultimate.

 I'd used Moles from MS Research, for working with SharePoint, and was
 hoping to migrate to Fakes. Even with all the MSDN licenses at the client,
 they would not have had enough Ultimates to cover the developers and the
 build machines. They can probably still use Moles, but it looks like a dead
 end since the site claims the Fakes will replace Moles.

 It may be a better deal, financially,  to license Telerik JustMocks or
 Typemock Isolator. Both are nicer to work with than Moles, I can't speak
 for Fakes.

 BTW, Moles was the pre-cursor to MS Fakes - see:
 http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/moles/

   Original Message 
 Subject: Shims
 From: Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com
 Date: Mon, August 20, 2012 5:09 am
 To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com

 Hey all,

 Has anyone had a look at Shims yet? The documentation says it required
 VS2012 Ultimate. I got all excited when I read about Shims and then my
 hopes were dashed. Ultimate? Can't afford that for a sole developer. *sigh*

 cheers,
 Stephen

Re: Deploying SQL reports to multiple sites

[William Luu]

Hi Stuart,

I've previously written some .NET code that will upload SSRS 2005/2008R2
RDL files to various SSRS servers.

From memory, all I had to do was add a reference to the SSRS web service
and call one of the methods (forget which one) and I was able to upload the
report.

It's not terribly difficult to do, and i'm sure there's code samples out
there which show this.

I can find more details if you need it.

Regards,

Will

On 21 June 2012 13:29, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote:

 Thank you

 I will try  the command line utility.

 I discovered that by editing the project file directly rather than through
 Visual Studio I am able to set up several configurations, this solved an
 immediate need, but is useless for a one press of the button solution to
 deploy to all servers.

 The codeplex  RSbuild utility is out of date as it refers only to 2005
 reporting services - there was a problem with its reference to a relative
 path to the current directory when getting the FilePath from the config
 file, which is relatively easy to fix. But I've ditched the line of thought
 to enhance this project it as I would have to spend time I don't have to
 compile against 2008 report services.


 Regards, Stuart


 On 21 June 2012 13:09, Donald donald.w.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have used a set of batch files to deploy SSRS to various different
 environments

 Use the command line deployment utility

 rs -i PublishSampleReports.rss -s http://Server http://%3Cserver/
  Name/reportserver

 Create a 'core' batch file that contains all the files (reports, images,
 data sources, etc) to deploy, but with parameters.  Then create a batch
 file for each environment with parameters passed into the 'core' batch
 file.  Hope that this makes sense.

 Don.


 On 21 June 2012 11:23, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote:

 When deploying SQL reports 2008  from Visual Studio it is a pain when it
 comes to deploying to a few different sites. I tried setting up different
 configurations using the Configuration Manager   that failed miserably. I
 have a couple of test virtual machines and a couple of customers to deploy
 to with patches and new reports, it seems ridiculous to have to manually
 set up the target server every time.

 Anyway I came across this application called RSBuild, but it seems to be
 a bit buggy  not updated for a while. When I try to use UNC paths for the
 location of the rdl files it fails and if I map the UNC path to a drive I
 get a error stating that the given path's format is not supported.
 Perhaps if I move the config and/or the rsbuild app to the unc location it
 may work.

 Is there a better way ?  Surely there must be !

 --

 -
 Stuart Kinnear
 Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
 acn. 81 072 778 262
 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

 Business software developers.
 SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

 -





 --

 -
 Stuart Kinnear
 Mobile: 040 704 5686.   Office: 03 9589 6502

 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd
 acn. 81 072 778 262
 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia

 Business software developers.
 SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office.

 -

Re: Users who compulsively highlight or click text as they read it -are you out there?

[William Luu]

Yeah, I do the double click on a word or just selecting a whole block of
text once I've read it.

On 17 April 2012 12:41, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do it. I actually thought about what I was doing too. I believe in my
 case it’s the technological equivalent of pointing at text when you read –
 ya’know, wot the teachr seyd not to?

 T.

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Gfader
 *Sent:* Monday, 16 April 2012 9:44 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Users who compulsively highlight or click text as they
 read it -are you out there?

 ** **

 I am one of the highlighters-while-reading and know at least 2 others.

 ** **

 It would be interesting to see what people highlight and what not... Then
 you might know that the user has read it?

 Suggestion: Collect those highlights from the users via JS and send it
 back to the server for later heat map generation... 

 ** **

.peter.gfader. (current mood = happy-go-lucky)

http://blog.gfader.com

 ** **

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Ian Thomas il.tho...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:

 I had never thought to search, but there’s even advice on how to do it! **
 **

  

 http://binged.it/HKHbK8  

  
 --

 Ian Thomas
 Victoria Park, Western Australia
 --

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 5:41 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Users who compulsively highlight or click text as they
 read it -are you out there?

  

 Quick Google search only revealed this straw poll on whirlpool...

 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/803426 

 --
 nonie (mobile) 

 On Apr 16, 2012 6:13 PM, Joseph Clark jcl...@atlassian.com wrote:

 Hi list!

 This is a bit of an odd request, but I'm yet to find the right incantation
 of search phrases that will yield results from the Internet - hopefully you
 can help!

 There is a certain subset of computer users who, when reading text on the
 screen, compulsively click or highlight text that they are reading on the
 screen (I am one of them!).  I didn't even know I was doing it until
 someone pointed it out to me whilst I was pairing with them a few years ago.

 One of our in-house products recently shipped a new milestone version
 internally with a new feature when viewing issues that allows you to
 instantly edit the content of the fields on the screen simply by simply
 clicking on them (turning the plain HTML into editable form controls
 on-the-fly). This is pretty neat, but as a serial text-clicker, this
 feature is downright infuriating.  I was happy to put this down as either a
 little personality quirk of my own, or merely some indication that I may be
 insane, but a quick straw poll of those nearby finds at least 3 other
 people who have the same behaviour, or some variant (one guy says he clicks
 on browser windows a lot as a muscle-memory thing to ensure the right
 browser window has focus).

 I'm trying to describe to the other team why this new feature sucks for
 some people, but I have no idea if that some people is one in ten users,
 or one in one million.  Have searched a bit online for information about
 this, but I don't really know what to search for. Does this user behaviour
 have a name? Are there other people like me out there (hello? hello?)? Any
 literature around on whether or not its a great idea to bind functionality
 to an innocuous user-action like text-selection or clicking in an
 apparently non-clickable area?

 Cheers!
 Joe.



 

 ** **

 -- 

 ** **

 ** **

   .peter.gfader. (current mood = happy!) 

   Check this before you go live

   http://blog.gfader.com/2011/07/website-check-list-part-1-aspnet-4.html**
 **

 ** **

 ** **

Re: ASP.NET web site

[William Luu]

There's a pretty good explanation (and resolution) to the '__o' is not
declared issue on stackoverflow -
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/750902/how-do-i-get-rid-of-o-is-not-declared



On 14 December 2011 16:55, Peter Maddin petermad...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I have been given a couple of applications written in vb.net (which I
 dislike, having only used  c#)

 ** **

 One solution is ok, I have managed to tweak the database, asmx web
 services and add a web site to IIS so that it actually runs.

 It was written in vs2005 and uses lots of obsolete ideas (still at the
 time it was probably hot stuff).

 ** **

 The other solution has got me flummoxed. It has code in-line with html.***
 *

 When I open the web site with vs2010, it does not complain but won’t build.
 

 I get lots of errors like

 ** **

 Error  1949   '__o' is not declared. It may be inaccessible due to
 its protection level.   

 ** **

 I have no idea how to address this.

 ** **

 Some of the aspx have include statements like this

 ** **

 %@ Page explicit=true %

 %@ Import namespace=ADODB %

 script language=VB runat=Server

  Dim Conn As ADODB.Connection

  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset

  Dim SQLstr As String

  Dim varErrors As Double

  Dim lngCounter as Long 

 /script

 !-- #INCLUDE FILE=includes/include-header.aspx --

 !-- #INCLUDE FILE=includes/include-adovbs.aspx --

 !-- #INCLUDE FILE=includes/include-ErrorHandler.aspx --

 ** **

 I am not familiar with asp.net using  vb.net in this manor (vb code mixed
 in with javascript and html). Are these include statements being honoured?
 

 If not, it might explain why some variables/properties cannot be found.***
 *

 ** **

 I am not sure how old this code is but it looks pretty archaic to me.

 ** **

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 *Path**West Laboratory Medicine WA*
 *Phone : +618 6396 4285 (Monday, Wednesday,Friday)*

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Re: ozdotnet vs ozwinrt etc

[William Luu]

Oz-MSDev?

On 27 September 2011 11:55, Jake Ginnivan jake.ginni...@readify.net wrote:

 ozXaml makes sense to me.

 ** **

 WPF and Silverlight are not legacy, WinRT and Metro apps are win8 metro
 only as far as I understand. WPF and Silverlight still have a place. All of
 these things are Xaml based. Pretty easy to just put [WPF], [SL], [Metro] in
 front of your post if it is specific to a stack. 

 ** **

 Jake

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 September 2011 7:22 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: ozdotnet vs ozwinrt etc

 ** **

 WinUX - lol.. didn't think of the Linux...so True :) 

 ** **

 how about ozwindev? ozwindl? (distribution list), ozXAML ?

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **


 ---
 Regards,
 Scott Barnes
 http://www.riagenic.com

 

 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM, David Richards 
 ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com wrote:

 ozwinux?  Sounds like an unholy alliance between windows and linux.  I
 think the universe would implode.

 I see nothing wrong with creating a new list but I wouldn't force or
 even encourage migration.  I would advertising its existence rather
 than say its a replacement.  Let people migrate if they choose to.
 Either people will warm to the idea and stop posting on the current
 lists or they wont bother with the new list.

 Just my opinion.

 David

 If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes
  will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!
  -Zapp Brannigan, Futurama





 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 09:00, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'd probably shoot for ozwinux. If your main goal is to discuss the
 future
  of .NET looking at the architecture breakdown i'm not sure everyone is
 going
  to rush completely over into the WinRT way of life especially given how
 slow
  enterprises around Australia have been in adoption in both Windows 7 vs
  Windows XP and WPF/Silverlight.
  I think there is still quite a few years to go before we start really
 seeing
  a massive departure in current thinking. I think that consolidating the
  WPF/SL space could also be a bit of a win today given i'm on both lists
 and
  haven't found either to be high in traffic (that is to say they seem to
 have
  equally reasonable levels of discussion and yet low enough to not
  really justify a partitioned community)
  Something like ozwinx or ozwinux is really a focused discussion now
 around
  User Experience Platforms in Microsoft Tech... WinRT, Win32 etc.
  ?
  ---
  Regards,
  Scott Barnes
  http://www.riagenic.com
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  ozwindows?
 
  On 27 September 2011 11:41, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote:
 
  Howdy,
  Given the architectural changes in Windows, I am canvasing what we
 should
  be doing with a number of these lists. WinRT is the new replacement for
  Win32 moving forward. WPF an SL become marginalised/legacy with XAML on
  WinRT being the new way forward.
  So, any thoughts on new list structures and so on to inflect the
  new/pending reality?
  My thinking is that:
 
  ozdotnet, ozwpf and ozsilverlight would end up being legacy toward the
  release of Win8.
  ozwinrt (registered it last night) would be a point of unifying the
  audiences from the above three lists.
 
  Thoughts, comments?
  David.
 
  --
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  Software Engineer
  Codify Pty Ltd
  Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61
 417
  189 363
  V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
  Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
 
 
 
 
  --
  regards,
  Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
 
 

 ** **

Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8

[William Luu]

Thanks David.

That's one of the better summaries I've read thus far.

On 16 September 2011 01:12, David Burela david.bur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm surprised there hasn't been any discussion around this on the mailing
 list yet.

 I've got some notes about the day 1  day 2 keynotes

 http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/build-keynote-day-1metro-experience-with-jupiter-xaml-and-html5js/

 http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/build-keynote-day-2windows-server-8-and-developer-tools/

 *Some quick thoughts:*
 *Development*
 The new functionality for the immersive apps is cool. The charms that
 allow you to share data between applications (edit an image in an image
 editor, then have another app directly upload it to twitter) is cool.
 User account syncing across desktops is also interesting. Syncing combined
 with the Credential locker allows a user to log in to an app on one
 computer (e.g. using Facebook or Google credentials to log in via the Azure
 ACS), the credentials are saved in the locker and synced to their other
 computers. So later if they pick up a tablet and launch the app, they will
 just be logged in straight away. and it only takes ~3 lines of code.

 *as a desktop*
 The new tile start screen is cool. and the new immersive apps in the metro
 themed style is cool
 However I am finding it really frustrating to use it as a general Operating
 System, as I keep getting mentally confused between the 2 different contexts
 (Tile interface, classic desktop).
 I keep hitting start to bring up my list of programs, but that takes you
 back to the tiles.
 I also don't see how my traditional multi monitor setup with multitasking
 is going to work in this world of new immersive style apps. Reading a
 webpage in the chromeless immersive app and then trying to chat with someone
 on MSN, is a jarring experience.

 -David Burela

Re: Window Management software

[William Luu]

Thanks Thomas. I've been using zbar too (after moving from Multimon when
using XP - http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm).

I'll check out Dual Monitor Taskbar.

On 8 September 2011 12:50, Williams, Thomas twilli...@phcn.vic.gov.auwrote:

  I was using ZBar http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/zbar/ (free) to extend
 the task bar across two monitors – recently switched to Dual Monitor Taskbar
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dualmonitortb/ (also free) as it has
 better Windows 7 theme support.

 ** **

 Thomas

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:36 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Window Management software

 ** **

 I use displayfusion, and used to use ultramon. Prefer displayfusion, it has
 a few features that ultramon does but not quite as well. (widescreen
 wallpapers for example). both are pretty good

 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Raghu Rana raghur...@gmail.com wrote:***
 *

 You could also look at http://www.displayfusion.com/


 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Joseph Clark jcl...@atlassian.com wrote:
  I've been using Ultramon for years for just one single feature - it
 extends
  the Windows taskbar onto secondary monitors. Can't live without it, now.
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Wallace Turner wallacetur...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Does anyone use any window management software, free or otherwise, that
  they swear by ?
 
  I'm looking at Divvy right now...
 
 


 

 --
 Raghu Rana
 Mobile: +61 432 139 301
 Email: raghur...@gmail.com

 ** **

 Peninsula Health - Metropolitan Health Service of the Year 2007  2009

Re: Web Development

[William Luu]

Simon, while I'd say no it doesn't make you un-employable. It does mean it
may be a little more difficult to get through the door for the first
interview compared with someone else who has the same amount of .NET
experience as yourself, but as an ASP.NET dev.

That said, it also depends on what the company that is hiring is after. I'm
sure there are many companies out there that are actively searching for good
.NET developers and would happily give you a go.

On 10 August 2011 12:26, Simon Kuldin sim...@prism-solutions.com.au wrote:

 I meant **un**employable

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Kuldin
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 August 2011 12:18 PM
 *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Web Development

 ** **

 Hey there everyone,

 ** **

 It seems to me that almost all of the Dot Net jobs advertised out there,
 require a decent level of ASP.NET experience.  Does that mean I’m pretty
 much employable since I have little to no ASP.NET experience, despite my
 level of Dot Net experience in WinForms and Compact Framework development?
 

 ** **

 I am studying ASP.NET when I can, but don’t have any real work experience
 with it yet.

 ** **

 I feel like I’m fighting an uphill battle to try and get into a full-time
 Dot Net development role (I’m only doing Dot Net development as a portion of
 my job at the moment).

Re: Web Development

[William Luu]

Hi Simon, perhaps if you passed one of those MS ASP.NET exams it may help?

Maybe this one? 70-515: Web Applications Development with Microsoft .NET
Framework 4 http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?ID=70-515

On 10 August 2011 13:02, Simon Kuldin sim...@prism-solutions.com.au wrote:

 Cheers for the feedback… I guess I just have to continue on with my home
 attempts at building a website via ASP MVC 3… 

 ** **

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *William Luu
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 August 2011 12:48 PM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Web Development

 ** **

 Simon, while I'd say no it doesn't make you un-employable. It does mean it
 may be a little more difficult to get through the door for the first
 interview compared with someone else who has the same amount of .NET
 experience as yourself, but as an ASP.NET dev.

 ** **

 That said, it also depends on what the company that is hiring is after. I'm
 sure there are many companies out there that are actively searching for good
 .NET developers and would happily give you a go.

 On 10 August 2011 12:26, Simon Kuldin sim...@prism-solutions.com.au
 wrote:

 I meant **un**employable

  

 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Simon Kuldin
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 August 2011 12:18 PM
 *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
 *Subject:* Web Development

  

 Hey there everyone,

  

 It seems to me that almost all of the Dot Net jobs advertised out there,
 require a decent level of ASP.NET experience.  Does that mean I’m pretty
 much employable since I have little to no ASP.NET experience, despite my
 level of Dot Net experience in WinForms and Compact Framework development?
 

  

 I am studying ASP.NET when I can, but don’t have any real work experience
 with it yet.

  

 I feel like I’m fighting an uphill battle to try and get into a full-time
 Dot Net development role (I’m only doing Dot Net development as a portion of
 my job at the moment).

 ** **

Re: Timeout a login on a Windows Mobile

[William Luu]

Hi Simon,

Would this do what you need?
http://blog.opennetcf.com/ctacke/2009/05/19/DetectingApplicationIdle.aspx

On 19 July 2011 10:08, Simon Kuldin sim...@prism-solutions.com.au wrote:

 G’day everyone,

 ** **

 I’m doing a handheld development on a Windows Mobile scanner that runs
 Windows CE 6.1.

 ** **

 Everything I need is done now, EXCEPT I want to know the best way to get
 the user to be logged out of the app after a certain amount of inactivity.
 

 ** **

 I’ve found various examples on the web, however most of them don’t appear
 to be that easy to adapt to the Compact Framework.

 ** **

 Anyone know of even just a small example that I can refer to?

 ** **

 Thanks!

 ** **

 *Simon Kuldin* | Senior Technical Consultant | *PRISM* 

 Suite 3, 214 Bay St Brighton, VIC 3186, Australia

 *P:* +61 3 9596 8633 *M:* 0408 310 957 *W:* www.prism-solutions.com.au

 ** **

 [image: Description: prism-v5.jpg] 

 *People.  Responsive.  Innovative.  Simple.  Methodical.*

 ** **

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Re: [OT] Renting a data projector

[William Luu]

Hi Greg,

If you're ok with buying, City Software has one on sale for $572 on their
website - http://www.citysoftware.com.au/Projector_Units.aspx
You can pick it up from their store in Mt Waverly (if you select that
option).

There's also a BENQ one at a city shop for $489 -
http://www.tammex.com.au/store/benq-ms510-2700-ansi-svgaprojector-p-10165.html

This was found via staticice -
http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=projector%20state%3Avic%20price%3A300..1000start=21links=20showadres=1pos=2

Anyway, just found a Sublime Audio Visual place on Google, which does
Projects/screen hire and are located in the East Bentleigh area. Costs start
from $132 per day.
http://www.sublimeav.com.au/Projectors-and-Projector-Screen-Hire-Melbourne.php

Hope that helps :)


Will

On 14 July 2011 11:01, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote:

 I got an Epson from Harvey Norman for about $900. It's resoloution isnt top
 of the line but it does the job well enough. I've been using it for almost 2
 years (once a month) so it's worked out quite cost effective.

 If you fancy a flight to Perth and back you can borrow it for the weekend,
 but I need it back by the 27th. :)
 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, on Saturday night I’m running an “astronomy night” at home with a
 dozen people and I want to use a data projector and screen. I’ve been
 running web searches for keywords and all I can find are high-end machines
 for use in large venues and the costs start at around $200 for two days and
 rapidly go up. A lot of other companies are up in Carlton and Kensington,
 but I’m down in the south east Melbourne in Cheltenham.

 ** **

 I’m still searching, but has anyone got a suggestion of how to get hold of
 a home-use projector and screen for a weekend without emptying my wallet? I
 might ring Officeworks and the local home entertainment shop as well.

 ** **

 Cheers,

 Greg

Re: Business Intelligence Development Studio (BIDS) vs VS2010

[William Luu]

Hi Greg,

You could always install BIDS locally by installing the SQL Server 2008 R2
Developer Edition? It's probably not installed by default, but I think it is
available.

We're currently still targetting SSRS 2005, so i'm not 100% sure on this.
But my past research indicated that you can author SSRS 2008 R2 reports
using Visual Studio 2008.

From memory I think BIDS (for 2008 R2) is actually just VS 2008 with the
addition of some Reporting Services add-ins. We currently author our SSRS
2005 reports in a copy of Visual Studio 2005 with the Reporting Services
add-ins.


Will

On 14 June 2011 11:06, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Folks, after many months absence from the subject I have returned to the
 task of writing some SQL 2008 R2 server-side reports. I previously had to
 perform the onerous task of uninstalling SQL Server 2008 from my server then
 reinstalling SQL Server with Advanced Tools so I could get BIDS to write
 reports. I was fascinated to find that BIDS is actually a stripped-down
 version of VS2010 with just a report designer and facility to deploy, and I
 proved that it works to my satisfaction.



 But now I have to spend hours writing reports, and it looks like I have to
 sit at my server (jammed in the corner of the room with a small virtualised
 screen) so I can fire up BIDS to work with the *.rptproj projects. Web
 searches hint that VS2010 is unable to edit rptproj files and I see a few
 people complaining.



 I just want to check that this is in fact the way things are, and perhaps
 I’m not missing some productivity tricks other know about.



 Cheers,

 Greg

Re: [OT] Cloud backup

[William Luu]

I'm also using Dropbox, and it works well for storing things in the cloud
and being able to access from anywhere that has a browser.

I use it mainly to share files between my home PC and my iPhone (mostly PDF
files).


Will

On 1 June 2011 03:10, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.com wrote:

 Hey Greg
 I was using Mozy until they stopped offering unlimited backups. I
 decided to look around and am now using Crashplan. I was impressed by
 the software and got their 4 year deal with the leaving Mozy
 discount they had running some months back. I think it was about $200
 or so (forget exact amount), but around the same as Mozy for 4 times
 as long (and unlimited), for up to 10 machines in the one household.
 (Instead of 3 machines).

 Only complaint was that it seems to be slowing down my machine during
 backups. I changed the schedule from always backup to only backup
 during the evenings when i'm not using my machine. It has a cool
 feature that lets you backup machines locally (or your friends as
 well.). I'm backing up my brothers laptop from wherever he is.
 Obviously bandwidth needs to be considered but you have granular
 control over what you backup, and you can throttle both lan and wan
 backups.
 Like I said, I was so impressed after a few hours of playing with the
 software, I paid for 4 years worth. I did need some support (it was
 not indexing/backing up all of my selected disks for some reason) and
 the support was quick. They got me to enter some commands into the
 client which told it to reindex the backup plan and away it went, not
 had a problem since.

 Restores (the important part!) can be done locally through the client,
 or via their webpage where it zips up your file selection and then
 lets you download the files via normal browser.

 I know what you mean about the ones that make you feel like it was
 targetting a non computer user. I felt the same when I looked around.
 Crashplan won for me.

 I also use Dropbox for file syncing between machines. 2Gb (plus extra
 if you refer someone or get referred by someone). Its handy for
 getting files from whereever you are. Might be what you are after if
 its just 200Mb of files. Was going to say it wont help if you corrupt
 your file but just remembered it has some versioning built in. Never
 used that option though, but it is there. Just had a look and context
 menu in explorer opens up a web page with versioning history for the
 file you selected.

 cheers,
 Stephen

 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:
  Folks, yeah it’s me again, futzing overtime.
 
 
 
  I’ve been reading the results of web searches on expressions like “cloud
  backup” and I’m getting interesting results, but some of them (like
  Backblaze) want to treat you like a dummy and have some locally installed
  utility run backups for you. Some are really expensive (mostly AU), and
 some
  are suspiciously cheap. As usual, it’s like trying to pick fruit at the
  market, too much choice and too many options.
 
 
 
  Has anyone here chosen a cloud backup provider that just gives you a
 vanilla
  service for pros like us who know what and when we want to back things
 up?
  No fancy UIs or patronising apps, or at least ones that have a small
  footprint.
 
 
 
  I personally wouldn’t want more than about 200MB of space for my vital
  files.
 
 
 
  I have backups on memory sticks, and on a removable drive, and I have
  monthly DVDs with alternate ones placed in the tool shed for offsite
 backup.
  But, I’d still like the convenience of zipping files when I feel like it
 and
  sending to cloud backup.
 
 
 
  Lord knows about the security issues! That’s something I’d like to be
  reassured about.
 
 
 
  Greg

Re: [OT] Cloud backup

[William Luu]

You could also sync/backup your stuff to Windows Live SkyDrive -
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-skydrive

On 1 June 2011 10:30, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote:

 Stephen, Crashplan looked great until I noticed they have some kind of
 per-machine restriction on all but the top plan. This make no sense, as if
 I
 buy the space, then I expect to be able to use from absa-bloody-lutely
 anywhere, I mean, it's the space that counts, not where it comes from --
 Greg

Re: dddmelbourne

[William Luu]

Registrations are now open!

http://dddmelbourne2.eventbrite.com/


Will

On 29 April 2011 10:32, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some of you may be interested in this; voting is open now:
 http://www.dddmelbourne.com/agenda

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Re: ASP.NET application in IIS7

[William Luu]

Depending on your version of Windows 7, there is a freely available
Microsoft image called XP Mode.

This is essentially a copy of XP running from within virtual pc

On Tuesday, 22 March 2011, Peter Maddin petermad...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 There was an error displayed but the account name was identical to my login
 name.
 I was really sure I had used the correct one in the configuration file.
 Another red face special.

 Apart from that it won't work on my Windows 7 machine as it needs .NET 1.1.
 You have to do this on a windows 7 machine to install .net 1.1
 http://blogs.iis.net/bills/archive/2008/06/02/installing-asp-net-1-1-with-ii
 s7-on-vista-and-windows-2008.aspx. Frankly I don't want to stuff up my
 windows 7 machine just to do this.

 I found an old XP Pro Clunker in a cupboard and hooked that up but it wanted
 to be authorized before one could use it. It is a legit copy but the network
 connection would not work. One could do it via the telephone but the code
 you have to write down it huge.
 I tried to use a virtual copy of XP (Windows 7 virtual machine) but I could
 not even see shares. I did manage to see my notebooks sql server 2008
 instance but it still would not work. (login timeouts and nothing in a SQL
 Profiler trace)

 The fun of it all.

 Regards Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
 Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2011 1:59 PM
 To: ozDotNet
 Subject: Re: FW: ASP.NET application in IIS7

 Hi Peter,

 That is stange, when running it on the local machine you should have
 seen an error message saying the login failed for the user Blah, etc.
 Was there no error being displayed?

 Regards

 Arjang

 On 22 March 2011 16:28, Peter Maddin petermad...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 I found the problem (me) after I put tracing in my code.

 It was a database login that had failed.



 If nothing else I have refreshed my knowledge on debugging ASP.NET.

 Its been several years since I last touched this.



 Regards Peter



 From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
 On Behalf Of Peter Maddin
 Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2011 11:49 AM
 To: 'ozDotNet'
 Subject: ASP.NET application in IIS7



 I have an old (developed using ASP.Net 1.1 and VS2003) that they wanted
 some
 performance issues tackled.

 This was an urgent job. They did not want to redevelop it to something
 more
 recent, that might come later.



 I made my modifications on an old XP box.



 I thought I would try it on my Windows 7 notebook.



 I created an application virtual directory and pointed it to where my
 ASP.NET code and forms were copied.



 Anonymous authentication is enabled and windows authentication disabled.

 Credentials to the ASP.NET folder is set to application pool identity.



 Check the application pool, the one to use for authentication is the
 DefaultAppPool.

 The identity for this was set to  localSystem.



 When I try and access the web site, I get the first page displayed but
 when
 I put in my login credentials ( I am using my own authentication within
 the
 site using a database table),

 It says that Login failed for my Windows Login account.



 Also database access uses a SQL Login account not a windows account.



 I don’t want it to use my Windows Account. I want it to be anonymous.



 I tried changing the DefaultAppPool  to use NetworkService and for my
 application folder gave permission to NETWORK to access the folder.

 This made no difference.



 I have had a look at the IIS log file in C:\inetpub\logs\LogFiles\W3SVC1

 And all it says is that a get for the page I see displayed had a status of
 200.



 Is there anything obvious before I start putting trace information in my
 application?





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Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

[William Luu]

It may look the same/similar. But they do tweak the design a little over
time.

I guess it is their look.

On 22 March 2011 10:33, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price
 step...@littlevoices.com wrote:
  Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20
 years
  ago?

 It's not just you.

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Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

[William Luu]

Well, the other tweak they made was to make it lighter :P At least it's no
longer still 3.5kg+.

Anyway, I don't own one (never have). But thought the specs sounded pretty
good. Plus they seem to have been built pretty solidly, and most of the
staff in my office who have a laptop have one of the Thinkpads.

On 22 March 2011 13:17, Chris Walsh ch...@walshie.me wrote:

 The only thing they’ve tweaked is putting a windows button.



 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *William Luu
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2011 1:14 PM

 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos



 It may look the same/similar. But they do tweak the design a little over
 time.


 I guess it is their look.

 On 22 March 2011 10:33, Noon Silk noonsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Stephen Price
 step...@littlevoices.com wrote:
  Is it me or do the Lenovo laptops look exactly the same as they did 20
 years
  ago?

 It's not just you.


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Re: [OT] Global Roaming data plans and WiFi hacking

[William Luu]

Facebook recently enabled the to ability to Browse Facebook on a secure
connection (https) whenever possible -
http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=486790652130

Yeah it took them a long while. And it definitely should be on https by
default. Same applies to Twitter (which will work in https if you browse to
it with the https url).

That said, it also took Google a little while to roll out https as default
for their gmail email service. I still remember when I first signed up for
gmail and https was not enabled by default (it may/may not have been an
option in those early days).

Just found a blog post by Google about the change-over:
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/default-https-access-for-gmail.html


On 6 March 2011 18:10, David Connors da...@codify.com wrote:

 On 4 March 2011 16:59, Samuel Lai samuel@gmail.com wrote:

 Some hope that HTTPS will do to HTTP what SSH did to telnet. Digital
 certificate infrastructure is still a bit of a mess though.


 Not really. The main problem is people running online businesses/social
 media sites etc who think that $100 for a cert is a lot of money.

 Eg Facebook was just valued at $75bln. I think they can afford a few certs
 and a crypto accelerator on their load balancers - they don't do it because
 they're frickin retards. There is no other excuse.

 If you're going overseas and want secure access to stuff, get a VPS located
 at a place you trust and do it over RDP over SSL or VPN back into a trusted
 network and use that VPN connection as your default gateway.

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Re: Red Gate will be charging $35 for .NET Reflector

[William Luu]

Hey, they're also releasing a free standalone tool too (later in the year)!

Haha. ReSharper is great though!

On 18 February 2011 10:15, Dylan Tusler 
dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au wrote:

  snarkWell, that's cool. At least I already have a $?00 ReSharper
 license, so that will save me $35. /snark

 (And yes, I do have a ReSharper license.)

 Dylan.


  --
 *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
 ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *William Luu
 *Sent:* Friday, 18 February 2011 8:56 AM
 *To:* ozDotNet
 *Subject:* Re: Red Gate will be charging $35 for .NET Reflector

 Looks like fans of the ReSharper tool will get a decompiler as part of the
 v6 nightly builds (also as a free stand-alone tool later this year).

 See:
 http://blogs.jetbrains.com/dotnet/2011/02/resharper-6-bundles-decompiler-free-standalone-tool-to-follow/


 On 11 February 2011 10:59, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:27 AM, David Connors da...@codify.comwrote:

  On 11 February 2011 09:25, Stephen Price step...@littlevoices.comwrote:

 Just thought I'd share this...

 Red-Gate are providing me with 25 licenses (enough to cover every
 member on our meetup group) of Reflector Pro (not the free version)
 for the Perth Silverlight Designer and Developer Network user group.

 I know it doesn't change their about face on the free version thing. I
 gave them my view (and what I've read on here) which they thanked me
 for. It does show that they support developer communities. Its a shame
 they couldn't put the free version out there untimebomed and
 unsupported. Make the paid version the Pro one.

 thoughts? (sorry if this lights up the fire again... hey, its Friday.)


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Re: [OT] Getting rid of old computer books

[William Luu]

You might also look at local libraries too.

On 19 December 2010 08:58, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote:

 A few years ago I gave all my older that one year books to the local
 technical college. I doubled the size of their computer section (ahem).

 Just because they aren't relevant to us others just learning may find
 something useful in them.

 Why not ask  a local college and see what they say?


 On 19 December 2010 10:37, Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au wrote:

  Hi All



 I am having a clean out of my bookshelves, and looking for recommendations
 on what to do with the old computer books including some like Dan Appleman’s
 Developing COM/Active X Components with Visual Basic 6



 Is there any other option than straight in the recycle bin?



 I see there are some book swapping sites on the internet – but I haven’t
 found a technical one



 Perhaps there someone out there who is deliberately stockpiling such books
 for legacy application emergencies ?



 Thanks

 Kirsten








 --
 regards,
 Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland

Re: [OT] Getting rid of old computer books

[William Luu]

silky: Library = Archival of historic texts :D

On 20 December 2010 09:26, silky michaelsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au
 wrote:
  Hi All
 
  I am having a clean out of my bookshelves, and looking for
 recommendations
  on what to do with the old computer books including some like Dan
 Appleman’s
  Developing COM/Active X Components with Visual Basic 6
 
  Is there any other option than straight in the recycle bin?
 
  I see there are some book swapping sites on the internet – but I haven’t
  found a technical one

 I'm struggling to find it, but I'm fairly certain Michael Minutillo
 runs a technical book sharing mailing list.

 Nevertheless, I think your best bet would just be the paper recycling
 option. I'd hate to think schools or libraries have any use for VB 6
 :P


  Perhaps there someone out there who is deliberately stockpiling such
 books
  for legacy application emergencies ?
 
  Thanks
 
  Kirsten

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Re: Visual Studio output window

[William Luu]

I don't know if you can do that already, though my guess is you could
probably write a Visual Studio add in to parse the content in the output
window.

A quick search finds these links:
- How to: Create an addin -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/80493a3w%28VS.80%29.aspx
- How to: Control the Output Window -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ht6z4e28%28VS.80%29.aspx


Will

On 3 June 2010 22:16, Wallace Turner w.tur...@fex.com.au wrote:

   Can the Output window in Visual Studio (any version) parse the output to
 provide quick links to the erroneous class(es) ?



 Eclipse has had this feature since forever; see screenshot below. I have
 only included this to explain what I mean (please no Eclipse vs VS fight!)



 Resharper has a feature called ‘Stack Trace Explorer’ however it is a bit
 clunky as you need to highlight the bit you want and then open the STE
 window.



 Eclipse:







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