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Dear List, I just had a wonderful follow through experiance - minus a birth! i have been following this wonderful women thru since mid 2002,and she was due 7/1/03, however went 10days over with her now 21month yo. her 1st labour was a swift 6 hrs, so i had a hunch this one maybe the same! she was booked into be induced at 8am fri 17/01, so of course it came as no suprise when she told me she got a show in the morn of the 16th! anyway, got a call at 2.15am fri 17 [today!] that she was in the b/centre with 2-3min apart, so i broke a few land speed records and got in there at 2.45, the baby was born at 2.42!! the amazing woman ruptured her membranes at 12.20 and within 3hrs had a beautiful 8pound baby boy! the thing that amazed me was the look on the dad's face when i walked in, he could not stop apologising!! he was dissapointed i didnt get there in time!! i reasuured him that this was about himhis wife and baby not me and to relax! but it was so beautiful to see how they wanted me to be a part of this experiance with them 'because i had made the time to come to all the app's" said dad! we really are lucky that there are people out there so open and accepting to let students like us be a part of their birthing miracles! so i have now been to 3.5 births!! take care,love jess. ps - mum and baby [and dad!] doing fine!
Re: [ozmidwifery] NACE Conference
SK is also coming to Brisbane in early March. Will keep you posted with details. Leigh - Original Message - From: barbara glare chris bright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] NACE Conference Hi, Just wanted to put in a plug for the NACE conference in Sydney on Feb 21st-23rd. There are still registrations available. There's a great line-up of speakers including Sheila Kitzinger (and it may well be Sheila's last trip to Australia) Susan Maushart, Julie McCrossin, and Andrea Robertson The web-page is http://www.nace.org.au/ And the toll free number is 1800 814 611 (it is suggested you use this number if you are trying to register.) Love, Barb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Re:
Well done to the parents. Great response from you Jess. Leigh - Original Message - From: J Stewart To: ozmid Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:34 PM Dear List,I just had a wonderful follow through experiance - minus a birth!i have been following this wonderful women thru since mid 2002,and she was due 7/1/03, however went 10days over with her now 21month yo.her 1st labour was a swift 6 hrs, so i had a hunch this one maybethe same! she was booked into be induced at 8am fri 17/01, so ofcourse it came as no suprise when she told me she got a show inthe morn of the 16th!anyway, got a call at 2.15am fri 17 [today!] that she was in theb/centre with 2-3min apart, so i broke a few land speed recordsand got in there at 2.45, the baby was born at 2.42!!the amazing woman ruptured her membranes at 12.20 and within 3hrshad a beautiful 8pound baby boy!the thing that amazed me was the look on the dad's face when iwalked in, he could not stop apologising!! he was dissapointed i didnt get there in time!! i reasuured him that this was about himhis wife and baby not me and to relax! but it was so beautiful tosee how they wanted me to be a part of this experiance with them'because i had made the time to come to all the app's" said dad!we really are lucky that there are people out there so open andaccepting to let students like us be a part of their birthingmiracles! so i have now been to 3.5 births!!take care,love jess.ps - mum and baby [and dad!] doing fine!
Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Story
Did you see how much some of them are paying their ob's? This is out of pocket that they can't claim back from their private health insurance. Some of them are having to pay a $1,000 fee (non claimable) on top of their consultations and birth fee. I'd much rather pay that to a midwife anyday! That is a really depressing website to visit! Jayne Was pottering around looking at Essential Baby website a few nights ago. A true education let me tell you. I'm really happy with the fact that I have had three births in a hosptial setting with a fantastic supportive GP, no stitches, a total of 20 mins CTG monitering in the whole three labours (got rid of that pretty quick) and no vac ext's, forceps or LUSCS. Not even a hint of induction for any - they come too early! (39, 37, and 38 weeks gestation). Needed the analgesia though. Anyway, I'm stunned at the amount of intervention these women accept and even want. Multiple ultrasounds, induction with prostin, synt is almost 'normal', and all before 41 weeks. There is a section on Birth Stories, and within the last week a story has gone up under the heading - my fun homebirth (or something like that). I think it's really well written, informative, and gives an insight into the committment and midwife care of this couple. Certainly a change from the other stories. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] New member...
Dear All, After being told about this mailing list several times, I have finally got my act together and joined. After reading through the 'archives' for the last hour, I see that I have been missing out on great discussions all this time! I am a doula/birth support person in Sydney and hopeful Bach. of Midwifery student (when it finally becomes available). I look forward to receiving your emails and being part of the discussion. Victoria _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Re: Birth Matters
Dear Joy and Maternity Coalition Editorial Committee I have been reading the ozmidwifery dialogue about the MIPP page in Birth Matters with interest. I believe having the title of MIPP seems to narrow the scope of independent midwifery matters to the Victorian arena. Perhaps the MIPPS page could become the ASIM page so that it disseminates the views and concerns of independent midwives from around Australia. As the national coordinator of ASIM I would be happy to provide updates related to our members' efforts to provide more community midwifery choices for women in each state and territory. Birth Matters is a great publication Joy, lets make it reflect the national effort to advance continuous midwifery care for every woman. Jan Robinson __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Story
In Adelaide it is less expensive to birth with a private midwife than our top obs, costing parents upwards of $1,500-$2000 easily plus the expensive necessary special ultrasound they recommend and any other costs involved. Not to mention the pedeatrician's fees. Our midwives fees were the best money we ever spent. Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jayne Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Story Did you see how much some of them are paying their ob's? This is out of pocket that they can't claim back from their private health insurance. Some of them are having to pay a $1,000 fee (non claimable) on top of their consultations and birth fee. I'd much rather pay that to a midwife anyday! That is a really depressing website to visit! Jayne -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Research support request
Dear List - I am posting this for a friend of mine who is working hard to also promote change. She has a limited amount of time to getthis doneasks that anyone with first hand experience or professional knowledge of how devastated women can be and how the opportunity to speak up about this after a traumatic birth would NOT do "more harm than good". She needs this by the end of January. Here is her letter - Anyone who has the time to reply can post a reply to her at the snail mail address listed. Thank you so much. Rhonda. "Dear Rhonda, I basically need some letters from women who have had an emergency caesarean saying that their delivery did lead them to feel distress afterwards, and that they would have welcomed the opportunity to fill out a questionnaire asking them about their true feelings - that it would *not* have made them feel worse to do so.Currently, the ethics committee (mostly men, with several doctors on board) is trying to block my woman-benefiting research, by arguing that the increased 'distress' put upon women by asking them questions a month after the birth is not outweighed by the potential benefits of the research (which sounds awfully like an attempt to silence women's voices and prevent change!).But I am arguing that not only are there huge benefits to women overall from the research, but that it is not going to harm emergency caesarean women, by asking them how they feel. Rather, it might actually make them feel better!I know I would have welcomed someone that gave a damn about how I really felt!And I would have liked to have known that I was not alone in how I felt too.I also would have been reassured to know that there were people working to make things better for women in the future so that they didn't have to go through what I did.So anyway, if you'd like to write a brief letter (can be less than a page, or whatever you like) for me to include with my reply to the ethics committee,to help get this research off the ground, you can send it to me at:Ms Robyn Henriksen,P.O. Box 552,Geelong, Vic. 3220I have to send my reply to the committee's 'concerns' in two weeks, so if you wanted to contribute, it would have to be within that time.Thanks for any support you can give,Robyn." IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Story
Yes well i think that cost needs to be a matter of priority - people pay $1000's of dollars each year to fix their cars and houses etc so why is it such a big deal to pay for your own physical and mental safety - (I am refering here to paying a midwife! rather than getting cheap obstetric abuse!) I am having to pay about $5000 to have my gallbladder out as I wont go back to the hospital where i didn't pay a lot but had my son ripped form my body. Hmm - Just can't bring myself to go back there even though I have my own surgeon. I guess that saving a little on George's birth is costing a lot more in the long run. (Not that I was given any choice as I had wanted to pay my own way and was told I could not. Which is a big problem as women are not informed of their choices.) My husband also wont let me go back into that hospital and has said - well we will just have to pull in our belts a bit and pay the private fees even though we don't have cover. Not long ago we spent$2000+ on a new motor for our car to keep it going so I figure that I am worth more to him than the car! Nice to know really! LOL Rhonda ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 18, 2003 01:26:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Story Did you see how much some of them are paying their ob's? This is out ofpocket that they can't claim back from their private health insurance. Someof them are having to pay a $1,000 fee (non claimable) on top of theirconsultations and birth fee. I'd much rather pay that to a midwife anyday!That is a really depressing website to visit!Jayne Was pottering around looking at Essential Baby website a few nights ago.A true education let me tell you. I'm really happy with the fact that Ihave had three births in a hosptial setting with a fantastic supportive GP, no stitches, a total of 20 mins CTG monitering in the whole three labours(got rid of that pretty quick) and no vac ext's, forceps or LUSCS. Not even a hint of induction for any - they come too early! (39, 37, and 38 weeks gestation). Needed the analgesia though. Anyway, I'm stunned at the amount of intervention these women accept and even want. Multiple ultrasounds, induction with prostin, synt is almost 'normal', and all before 41 weeks. There is a section on Birth Stories,and within the last week a story has gone up under the heading - my fun homebirth (or something like that). I think it's really well written, informative, and gives an insight into the committment and midwife care of this couple. Certainly a change from the other stories.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] New member...
Welcome Victoria, I'm a Bachelor of Midwifery student in Melbourne. Looking forward to discussion. Cheers, Jen - Original Message - From: Victoria Couldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:10 am Subject: [ozmidwifery] New member... Dear All, After being told about this mailing list several times, I have finally got my act together and joined. After reading through the 'archives' for the last hour, I see that I have been missing out on great discussions all this time! I am a doula/birth support person in Sydney and hopeful Bach. of Midwifery student (when it finally becomes available). I look forward to receiving your emails and being part of the discussion. Victoria _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit target=lhttp://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Research support request
Dear Rhonda Have you given your friend info reJackie Mawsonand the birthrites site?? Alesa Alesa KoziolMidwifery Clinical EducatorMelbourne - Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Research support request Dear List - I am posting this for a friend of mine who is working hard to also promote change. She has a limited amount of time to getthis doneasks that anyone with first hand experience or professional knowledge of how devastated women can be and how the opportunity to speak up about this after a traumatic birth would NOT do "more harm than good". She needs this by the end of January. Here is her letter - Anyone who has the time to reply can post a reply to her at the snail mail address listed. Thank you so much. Rhonda. "Dear Rhonda, I basically need some letters from women who have had an emergency caesarean saying that their delivery did lead them to feel distress afterwards, and that they would have welcomed the opportunity to fill out a questionnaire asking them about their true feelings - that it would *not* have made them feel worse to do so.Currently, the ethics committee (mostly men, with several doctors on board) is trying to block my woman-benefiting research, by arguing that the increased 'distress' put upon women by asking them questions a month after the birth is not outweighed by the potential benefits of the research (which sounds awfully like an attempt to silence women's voices and prevent change!).But I am arguing that not only are there huge benefits to women overall from the research, but that it is not going to harm emergency caesarean women, by asking them how they feel. Rather, it might actually make them feel better!I know I would have welcomed someone that gave a damn about how I really felt!And I would have liked to have known that I was not alone in how I felt too.I also would have been reassured to know that there were people working to make things better for women in the future so that they didn't have to go through what I did.So anyway, if you'd like to write a brief letter (can be less than a page, or whatever you like) for me to include with my reply to the ethics committee,to help get this research off the ground, you can send it to me at:Ms Robyn Henriksen,P.O. Box 552,Geelong, Vic. 3220I have to send my reply to the committee's 'concerns' in two weeks, so if you wanted to contribute, it would have to be within that time.Thanks for any support you can give,Robyn." IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
