Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: The Next Survivor Series
After a heated debate this morning with my dearest pig headed husband - Can I enter him PLEASE He seemed think that as I had got one child to school and one to child care and had got half way through compiling and calculating the GST and BAS for the past three monthsby 10.30am - but had not cleaned the lounge or done the dishes or got a load of washing on - I obviously had done NOTHING! He mind you had got out of bed (major task) - gone to the toilet (another major task) and got dressed ( so much effort) and eaten his breakfast. So of course HE had done so much more than me. Thank you so much for this it really made my day. Rhonda (who does nothing - of course!) ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 16 October 2003 03:04:35 PM To: list Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: The Next Survivor Series - Original Message -From: "Vicki Maher" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Aileen" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: "Terry Greg" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Terrie"[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Tamara" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Steve Laura" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Steve" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED];"Peta Ann Paget" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Pauline" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED];"Linda" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Kerry Bradley" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED];"Kelly" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Karen" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "JoJ" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Jennifer Buckland" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Emma David" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Cheryl" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED];"Charlie" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Carol O'B"[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Carol Peter" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED];"Barbara" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Amanda" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED];"Allison" lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:04 PMSubject: Fw: The Next Survivor Series Take Care Luv Vicki The Next Survivor Series THE NEXT SURVIVOR SERIES * * * * Six married men will be dropped on an island with 1 car and 4 kids each, for 6 weeks. Each kid plays two sports and either takes music or dance classes. * * * There is no access to fast food. *** Each man must take care of his 4 kids, keep his assigned house clean, correct all homework, complete science projects, cook, do laundry, etc. The men only have access to television when the kids are asleep and all chores are done. There is only one TV between them and there is NO REMOTE * The men must shave their legs, wear makeup daily, which they must apply themselves, either while driving or while making four lunches. * They must attend weekly PTA meetings; * clean up after their sick children at 3:00 a.m.; * make an Indian hut model with six toothpicks, a tortilla and one marker; * and get a 4-year-old to eat a serving of peas. * * * * The kids vote them off the island, based on performance. The last man wins .. only if he has enough energy to be intimate with his spouse at a moment's notice. * * * If the last man does win, he can play the game over and over again for the next 18-25 years...eventually earning the right to be called "Mother." * * One more thing, they cannot kill themselves or the kids, or they automatically get voted off.--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] waterproof sonnocade
Dear Lynne and Other Midwives practising water births I am looking to purchase a fetal heart 'doppler'/sonnocade, (please excuse me if sonnocade is spelt incorrectly). I was wandering if there are waterproof ones available for using with women using water during labour and birth. For gentle birth choices Rashelle Szoke -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] WA Family and midwives Rally
All WA ozmidlisters Maternity Coalition WA is planning a "Fmilies for midwives, Midwives for families" rally and march on Palriament next month For more information and to help get involved please email Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] new here/okay?
If we look at the At risk factors I think all or most women who birth in western countries orat least in Aust are candidates for PTSD! Denise - Original Message - From: Wayne and Caroline McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] new here/okay? Hi Joanne, I have a link to them on my webpage but their direct address is: http://www.tabs.org.nz/ If you want to contact Ursula Yee who is running the new support group here in Australia her email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We did a talk for a bunch of midwifery students on PTSD at Griffith Uni last Friday and some of them were really shocked at the stories we shared. It was a good talk and they seemed to get the picture. Cheers, Cas. www.casmccullough.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M Fisher Sent: Monday, 13 October 2003 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] new here/okay? Dear Cas, Do you have the website address for the NZ group TABS A (Trauma and Birth Stress). Thanks. Cheers, Joanne - Original Message - From: Wayne and Caroline McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] new here/okay? Sonia, you are very welcome to tell your story... I am not a health professional either but they put up with me : ). Anyway, a fellow birther and friend of mine has started up a national Birth Trauma Support Group which is linked to the NZ group TABS A(Trauma and Birth Stress) so please contact me off list if you would like to chat further about what happened to you. You are not alone. Cheers, Cas. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of *G and S* Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2003 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] new here/okay? Greetings. May I introduce myself firstly by telling you up front that I am not a midwife, doula or obstetric professional. I was however a registered nurse, have had five babes and have plenty of questions and thoughts regarding birth. A friend of mine who lectures in midwifery suggested this list as a good place to be. I had a hideous birth experience in January (the chance of it happening again is supposed to be greater then 1 in 1,000,000) and though I do not wish to sue my ob, I still need some answers that he can't / won't give me. But before I launch into my story I thought I should check it out with you guys first to see if you are happy to have me around. I will understand if you think that this is an inappropriate place for me to be. TIA, Sonia. PS. I am an Australian and I was a member of the Ican list. I left it because I really needed local 'talk'. KWIM? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald
Has anyone else read the article in the smh about the possible research into vaginal versus caesarian, which is better? The article is very anti the idea, but does anyone know more about it. I can't believe there are people with money who could give it for this, there are so many more worthwhile things to research and I can't possibly understand what previous research could justify this. I am confused as to how this possible tragedy to women could be about to happen. Are we heading for extinction of the human race? I will type the article in if anyone wants to see it, it is pretty unreal. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald
Hi Claire and all I was contacted at 6.48 am (and anyone who knows me knows that's dangerous!) by ABC NSW to make comment. I also called in on ABC Sydney 702. I then alerted Barb Vernon at ACMI who was able to secure a spot on the national coverage of PM (just before 6pm tonight) She was great and argued that a randomised control trial is just SO unethical. This may sound strange but sometimes the most repugnant stuff is actually a blessing as it gets people questioning the former unquestioned/able. Letters to the SMH would be good Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justine Has anyone else read the article in the smh about the possible research into vaginal versus caesarian, which is better? The article is very anti the idea, but does anyone know more about it. I can't believe there are people with money who could give it for this, there are so many more worthwhile things to research and I can't possibly understand what previous research could justify this. I am confused as to how this possible tragedy to women could be about to happen. Are we heading for extinction of the human race? I will type the article in if anyone wants to see it, it is pretty unreal. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald
Hello colleagues, Having rung Justine early myself, I can attest to the dangerous part :-) How wonderful that they did contact you Justine. I caught the tail end of the radio national piece and heard Barbara, she was excellent :-) You are right too Justine in that this is an excellent example of the madness of our current system and how it is getting out of control. It will make people sit up and take notice. this following is my letter to the editor. (remember to add your phone number and address when you write in - although in my case, my second letter (because they wanted me to send it again with the phone number) was a bit better, because the more I thought about it, the more steely eyed clarity I got) so this is my letter The more I think about this study, the more disturbed I get. Who in their right mind would randomly assign healthy pregnant women to major abdominal surgery with all it's attendant risks and problems? The turn of the century saw the esteemed father of obstetrics Dr Marion Simms in the USA perform hideous gynaecological surgery on unanaesthetised black women. This latest idea smacks of similar philosophical ideas and disregard for ethics. Carolyn Hastie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Justine Caines Sent: Friday, 1 January 1904 1:37 AM To: OzMid List Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald Hi Claire and all I was contacted at 6.48 am (and anyone who knows me knows that's dangerous!) by ABC NSW to make comment. I also called in on ABC Sydney 702. I then alerted Barb Vernon at ACMI who was able to secure a spot on the national coverage of PM (just before 6pm tonight) She was great and argued that a randomised control trial is just SO unethical. This may sound strange but sometimes the most repugnant stuff is actually a blessing as it gets people questioning the former unquestioned/able. Letters to the SMH would be good Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justine Has anyone else read the article in the smh about the possible research into vaginal versus caesarian, which is better? The article is very anti the idea, but does anyone know more about it. I can't believe there are people with money who could give it for this, there are so many more worthwhile things to research and I can't possibly understand what previous research could justify this. I am confused as to how this possible tragedy to women could be about to happen. Are we heading for extinction of the human race? I will type the article in if anyone wants to see it, it is pretty unreal. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald
Justine Was this the ACTOBAC trial that they were talking about? We have gone off the burner a bit with this one. If this we need to renew our efforts if there is some news coverage about the ACTOBAC trial. Debbie Justine Caines wrote: Hi Claire and all I was contacted at 6.48 am (and anyone who knows me knows that's dangerous!) by ABC NSW to make comment. I also called in on ABC Sydney 702. I then alerted Barb Vernon at ACMI who was able to secure a spot on the national coverage of PM (just before 6pm tonight) She was great and argued that a randomised control trial is just SO unethical. This may sound strange but sometimes the most repugnant stuff is actually a blessing as it gets people questioning the former unquestioned/able. Letters to the SMH would be good Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justine Has anyone else read the article in the smh about the possible research into vaginal versus caesarian, which is better? The article is very anti the idea, but does anyone know more about it. I can't believe there are people with money who could give it for this, there are so many more worthwhile things to research and I can't possibly understand what previous research could justify this. I am confused as to how this possible tragedy to women could be about to happen. Are we heading for extinction of the human race? I will type the article in if anyone wants to see it, it is pretty unreal. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald
interesting date on your email, Justine. :-) We talked about this article a lot yesterday in my workplace. It's certainly caused a stir. Robin - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 01, 1904 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald Hi Claire and all I was contacted at 6.48 am (and anyone who knows me knows that's dangerous!) by ABC NSW to make comment. I also called in on ABC Sydney 702. I then alerted Barb Vernon at ACMI who was able to secure a spot on the national coverage of PM (just before 6pm tonight) She was great and argued that a randomised control trial is just SO unethical. This may sound strange but sometimes the most repugnant stuff is actually a blessing as it gets people questioning the former unquestioned/able. Letters to the SMH would be good Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justine Has anyone else read the article in the smh about the possible research into vaginal versus caesarian, which is better? The article is very anti the idea, but does anyone know more about it. I can't believe there are people with money who could give it for this, there are so many more worthwhile things to research and I can't possibly understand what previous research could justify this. I am confused as to how this possible tragedy to women could be about to happen. Are we heading for extinction of the human race? I will type the article in if anyone wants to see it, it is pretty unreal. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterproof sonnocade
Hi Rashelle, My colleague and I have a waterproof doppler, it's Japanese, and we bought it from Cottman SBA surgical supplies in Adelaide from a lovely chap called Andrew. You could give them a call on 08 8375 or there is a priority number 1300 364 007 and have a chat with him, it cost us under $500, which is soo much cheaper than the Huntleigh, which I also own, and there really isn't any difference except the Huntleigh has a shorter cord, and a visual readout of the FHR. Sorry to be a bit vague, but I don't have the doppler here to check on the brand name Hope that helps. Tania - Original Message - From: attila rashelle szoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:44 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterproof sonnocade Dear Lynne and Other Midwives practising water births I am looking to purchase a fetal heart 'doppler'/sonnocade, (please excuse me if sonnocade is spelt incorrectly). I was wandering if there are waterproof ones available for using with women using water during labour and birth. For gentle birth choices Rashelle Szoke -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald
Those of us outside Sydney would appreciate seeing the article contents or a web address/ Thank you denise - Original Message - From: Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:26 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] sydney morning herald Has anyone else read the article in the smh about the possible research into vaginal versus caesarian, which is better? The article is very anti the idea, but does anyone know more about it. I can't believe there are people with money who could give it for this, there are so many more worthwhile things to research and I can't possibly understand what previous research could justify this. I am confused as to how this possible tragedy to women could be about to happen. Are we heading for extinction of the human race? I will type the article in if anyone wants to see it, it is pretty unreal. Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress
Jen, I'm a 1st yr student at ACU. Don't know if this is so relevant, but one of my FTJ's had an awful experience when her 1st son was born - he was diagnosed very quickly with Downs Syndrome, and she felt that the midwives didn't know how to cope with this, and left her totally alone. This gave her a very negative perspective on her birthing experience.She is very keen to pass this information on to new midwife students so that they learn what the woman goes through. Already I have investigated the possibility of her coming in to talk to our group next year. Amanda - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress Cas, What a valuable thing your group was able to contribute to those mid. students! I'm a 2nd year BMid student in Melbourne while we have touched on trauma birth stress, we haven't heard it from the persective of the individual her experience. Any idea if there's such a group in Melbourne who might be interested? Cheers, JenWayne and Caroline McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did a talk for a bunch of midwifery students on PTSD at Griffith Unilast Friday and some of them were really shocked at the stories weshared. It was a good talk and they seemed to get the picture.Cheers,Cas.www.casmccullough.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Search- Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search
RE: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress
Hi Id be interested in your comments on what subjects have been taught in the Bmid and what subjects you feel you would have liked / needed more on? Thanks Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda Kevin Gommers Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress Jen, I'm a 1st yr student at ACU. Don't know if this is so relevant, but one of my FTJ's had an awful experience when her 1st son was born - he was diagnosed very quickly with Downs Syndrome, and she felt that the midwives didn't know how to cope with this, and left her totally alone. This gave her a very negative perspective on her birthing experience.She is very keen to pass this information on to new midwife students so that they learn what the woman goes through. Already I have investigated the possibility of her coming in to talk to our group next year. Amanda - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress Cas, What a valuable thing your group was able to contribute to those mid. students! I'm a 2nd year BMid student in Melbourne while we have touched on trauma birth stress, we haven't heard it from the persective of the individual her experience. Any idea if there's such a group in Melbourne who might be interested? Cheers, Jen Wayne and Caroline McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did a talk for a bunch of midwifery students on PTSD at Griffith Uni last Friday and some of them were really shocked at the stories we shared. It was a good talk and they seemed to get the picture. Cheers, Cas. www.casmccullough.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search
