RE: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

2005-09-13 Thread Dean Jo
Tania, but you did hear BP say that there is no collection of cs rates
and failed inductions...remember it is considered the womans fault ie
FTP if an induction fails and results ina  cs...
Perhaps write to the pregnancy outcomes uinti and ask them for the data?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania
Smallwood
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:52 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...


Hi Belinda,
Is this stat published anywhere, or just anecdotal?  A 60% section rate
is twice the rate for the state, and I think twice the average for that
hospital too, and having just heard a leading obstetrician there tell
women that there is NO risk of an increase in c/s as a result of
induction, I'm trying to get my head around it...

Tania
x

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:06 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

Tania, at the wch the stats are - for primip women indcued before 41 
weeks there is a 60% cs rate.
Belinda

Tania Smallwood wrote:

  

 Just wondering if there are any good quality trials about IOL and
 increase of c/s?  Have just re-read Enkin, and it does state that IOL 
 is not associated with an increase in caesarean section rate (but 
 given that most states here are up around the 30% mark, you have to 
 wonder what they are comparing that to?), but I thought something came

 out of the Uk not long ago disputing this?

  

 Anyone?

  

 Tania

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[ozmidwifery] postings

2005-09-13 Thread Alan Rooney








I have not received any postings for the past 2 days
is there something wrong with the system?



Alan








Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

2005-09-13 Thread mh


- Original Message - 
From: Sally-Anne Brown

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

-snip-
They have studied two groups a) IOL and b) spontaneous labour.  The results 
show a slight difference in the two groups of about 1.5% higher in the IOL 
group compared with the spont labour group. In both groups the results show 
(approx) 60% c/section rate - not the 30-50% c/section rate often spoken of.

-snip-

Have I understood this correctly? In this study, women who are induced *and 
have an EDB* have a 60% c/s rate?? I find this mind boggling.


I work in a tertiary hospital with many high risk pregnancies, in the 
Delivery Suite. Our statistics are (from memory, I don't have them at home) 
80% of primips overall(spontaneous and IOL) choose to have EDB. Overall, 60% 
normal birth, 29% LSCS, others instrumental, primips. This includes elective 
C/S for breech etc. That's not exactly correct but pretty close. I thought 
these figures were bad. How do they get such a high c/s rate just from EDB? 
Or have I misunderstood?

Monica


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Re: [ozmidwifery] hemihypertrophy question

2005-09-13 Thread mh
I'm sure you've excluded it Kylie but you don't mention it so I thought I 
would just suggest checking for congenital dislocation of her hip- a cousin 
had that and it wasn't picked up until she was seen to throw her ;leg out 
with each step.(Unless that's what hemihypertrophy is, in which case I am 
going to feel very stupid.)

Monica

- Original Message - 
From: Kylie Carberry

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:43 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] hemihypertrophy question


Hi Everyone,
I was in need of some information in regard to my 18 month old daughter, 
Poppy, and although I have a doctors appt it is not until tomorrow afternoon 
and I thought someone on this list may have some info on what I am looking 
for...
Poppy was diagnosed with urinary reflux at about seven weeks following a 
renal scan.  The scan was recommended as I had a two vessel cord which was 
apparent at my 18 week scan during pregnancy.  After several UTI's and 
assciated kidney infections (despite antib's), she has been booked in for 
surgery to correct the 'faulty' ureters that are causing the reflux.
Since about 10 months old when she began to walk around furniture we have 
noticed Poppy kind of limps...she kind of throws her left leg out as she is 
walking.  We thought we'd wait until walking was fully established until 
worrying - after all she has one thing wrong and what parent wants to think 
there could be something else.  Anyway she has now been walking unaided for 
about 2 months and I was starting to worry  because of the still obvious 
limp she has.  I laid her down the other day and when I put her legs out in 
front was astonished that the right is actually 2 cm longer than the left. 
It all made sense and we couldn't believe we overlooked it.  Whilst awaiting 
for xrays to come back I have done some internet research and I believe you 
call this condition hemihypertrophy.  Now I suddenly panicked when I saw 
that this could be related to a kidney cancer called Wilms' tumor.  My 
initial panic subsided and I began to think if she did have this Wilms 
surely they would have picked it up somewhere over the last year and a half 
amidst the numerous nuclear kidney scans and ultrasounds she has had.  I am 
praying that I am right and it is just a case of one leg being longer for 
growth reasons, but does anyone think it could be related to the urinary 
problem?  Could they have overlooked it during all of the tests?

Any info or thoughts would be truly appreciated...
best wishes



Kylie Carberry
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Re: [ozmidwifery] interesting article FYI

2005-09-13 Thread brendamanning

LINA CLERKE

P.O. Box 3039 Cotham Kew Vic 3101



www.wonderfulbirth.com



Regarding the 15th and 16th October Active Birth Workshop.  Congratulations 
on choosing this most positive preparation for your birth. As well as 
offering you an extensive education in birthing skills and inspiring 
confidence for both partners, the workshop is a chance to meet other 
like-minded parents-to-be, a great potential support resource after the 
birth.  Please note that no cheques will be cashed until very close to the 
workshop time.. Please, if for any reason you need to cancel, you must let 
me know ASAP because there is often a waiting list and if people cancel at 
the last minute, other pregnant women could miss out.


WORKSHOP NOTES:

· It is important that you arrive promptly at 9.45 on Saturday 
morning to allow time for registration and introductions. We will start at 
10.00am on Sunday.


· The workshop will be held at Ashburton Library, 154 High Street, 
Ashburton.


· Local parking is easy to find and there are shops and cafes nearby 
if you wish to have a leisurely breakfast before the workshop.


· Be sure to wear loose comfortable clothing that enables full 
physical mobility - i.e. stretch pants/leggings, wide/ long skirts, shorts, 
tracksuits, etc. Please also bring 3 bed pillows if possible.


· Please bring some snacks / fruit to nibble on throughout the day - 
there is a late lunch and an even later tea break - and expectant mothers 
will want to snack. Please bring two litres of juice or similar to share. 
Also bring your own drink bottle to sip on.


· Food will be a coordinated sumptuous affair - I will phone you 
closer to the date with details. Please note: You will also need to bring 
your own cutlery, plate and mug.


· Please bring paper and pen. I know it all sounds like a lot to 
bring, but actually it is a picnic basket and some pillows. (I always 
recognize folks coming to my workshops by these signs, plus the pregnant 
belly!)


· My prenatal relaxation CD's will be available to purchase.  For 
more details about the CD's, please go to www.wonderfulbirth.com.


· Each day will finish at approximately 7.00pm - we usually go 
overtime. Please do not arrange a busy evening schedule for the weekend (or 
to have to dash to get to some evening event). Although the days are long, 
they are action packed and you will leave feeling very inspired!


That's it for now - I look forward to seeing you at the workshop.

.Tania Delahoy..(Lina's assistant) Ph 03 95630996



PS. Please have a look at the many interesting articles, links and wonderful 
stories on my website: www.wonderfulbirth.com.


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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] interesting article FYI



leanne wynne wrote:


Fat Content of Breast Milk Increases with Time
By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter
TUESDAY, Sept. 6 (HealthDay News) -- The longer a mother breast-feeds, 
the higher the fat and energy content of her breast milk .


That is so good to know! Do you mind if I copy / paste it into a post for 
another group?


Thanks,

Jo (Mum to Will, 3.5 months old)

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Re: [ozmidwifery] interesting article FYI

2005-09-13 Thread brendamanning

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From: JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] interesting article FYI



leanne wynne wrote:


Fat Content of Breast Milk Increases with Time
By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter
TUESDAY, Sept. 6 (HealthDay News) -- The longer a mother breast-feeds, 
the higher the fat and energy content of her breast milk .


That is so good to know! Do you mind if I copy / paste it into a post for 
another group?


Thanks,

Jo (Mum to Will, 3.5 months old)

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Re: [ozmidwifery] postings

2005-09-13 Thread Alan Linda Trewern



Alan there has been mail over the past 2 days. 
Maybe a problem with your end
 
Linda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Alan 
  Rooney 
  To: Ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:45 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] postings
  
  
  I have not received any postings 
  for the past 2 days is there something wrong with the 
  system?
  
  Alan


Re: [ozmidwifery] Workshop

2005-09-13 Thread Janet Fraser



Brenda would you like me to 
advertise this on Joyous Birth and Natural Parenting?
J


Re: [ozmidwifery] hemihypertrophy question

2005-09-13 Thread Andrea Quanchi
I agree I'd be looking at her hips before thinking of a kidney tumour. Urinary reflux is very common.
Andrea Q
On 13/09/2005, at 1:43 PM, Kylie Carberry wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I was in need of some information in regard to my 18 month old daughter, Poppy, and although I have a doctors appt it is not until tomorrow afternoon and I thought someone on this list may have some info on what I am looking for...

Poppy was diagnosed with urinary reflux at about seven weeks following a renal scan.  The scan was recommended as I had a two vessel cord which was apparent at my 18 week scan during pregnancy.  After several UTI's and assciated kidney infections (despite antib's), she has been booked in for surgery to correct the 'faulty' ureters that are causing the reflux. 

Since about 10 months old when she began to walk around furniture we have noticed Poppy kind of limps...she kind of throws her left leg out as she is walking.  We thought we'd wait until walking was fully established until worrying - after all she has one thing wrong and what parent wants to think there could be something else.  Anyway she has now been walking unaided for about 2 months and I was starting to worry  because of the still obvious limp she has.  I laid her down the other day and when I put her legs out in front was astonished that the right is actually 2 cm longer than the left.  It all made sense and we couldn't believe we overlooked it.  Whilst awaiting for xrays to come back I have done some internet research and I believe you call this condition hemihypertrophy.  Now I suddenly panicked when I saw that this could be related to a kidney cancer called Wilms' tumor.  My initial panic subsided and I began to think if she did have this Wilms surely they would have picked it up somewhere over the last year and a half amidst the numerous nuclear kidney scans and ultrasounds she has had.  I am praying that I am right and it is just a case of one leg being longer for growth reasons, but does anyone think it could be related to the urinary problem?  Could they have overlooked it during all of the tests?

Any info or thoughts would be truly appreciated...

best wishes


Kylie Carberry
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Workshop

2005-09-13 Thread brendamanning



Janet,

Yes please
Many thanks.

Brenda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Janet 
  Fraser 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:30 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Workshop
  
  Brenda would you like me to 
  advertise this on Joyous Birth and Natural Parenting?
  J


[ozmidwifery] R U there??

2005-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd



Has ozmidwifery gone quiet over the alst 3 
days??

or just my connection ??
Denise Hynd

"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy 
but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and 
by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."

— Linda Hes


Re: [ozmidwifery] R U there??

2005-09-13 Thread Andrea Quanchi
must just be quiet 
Andrea
On 13/09/2005, at 9:33 PM, Denise Hynd wrote:

Has ozmidwifery gone quiet over the alst 3 days??
 
or just my connection ??
Denise Hynd
 
Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled.
 
— Linda Hes


[ozmidwifery] Problems with Ozmid List or not??

2005-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Nothing for several days and suddenly 31 from you Vedrana Valčić 
[EMAIL PROTECTED])


and nothing from the list not even my question


What is happening ??



Denise Hynd

Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by 
anyone, our bodies will be handled.


- Linda Hes

- Original Message - 
From: Vedrana Valčić [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:56 PM
Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:53 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

Hi Tania

I too have been checking out the facts on inductions after listening to the
same Obstetrician.  The Nice guidelines say that the mortality rate
is 1 in 3000 at 37 weeks 3 in 3000 at 41 weeks and 6 in 3000 at 43 weeks.
at 40wks 58% of women have delivered
at 41wks 74% of women have delivered
at 42wks 82% of women have delivered.

Due to all of the above the conclusion they make is induction prior to 41
wks increases work load without significantly lowering perinatal mortality.
The whole document can be read on www.nice.org.uk

Also there are some interesting figures on the birthlove site below. These
figures do show the risk for primip section is doubled with induction but
the over all section rate doesn't seem to be altered.  Unless I've
misinterpreted it.
http://www.birthlove.com/free/induction.html#first

Lisa Barrett



- Original Message - 
From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...



Hi Belinda,

Is this stat published anywhere, or just anecdotal?  A 60% section rate is
twice the rate for the state, and I think twice the average for that
hospital too, and having just heard a leading obstetrician there tell
women
that there is NO risk of an increase in c/s as a result of induction, I'm
trying to get my head around it...

Tania
x

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:06 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

Tania, at the wch the stats are - for primip women indcued before 41
weeks there is a 60% cs rate.
Belinda

Tania Smallwood wrote:




Just wondering if there are any good quality trials about IOL and
increase of c/s?  Have just re-read Enkin, and it does state that IOL
is not associated with an increase in caesarean section rate (but
given that most states here are up around the 30% mark, you have to
wonder what they are comparing that to?), but I thought something came
out of the Uk not long ago disputing this?



Anyone?



Tania


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[ozmidwifery] RE: Problems with Ozmid List or not??

2005-09-13 Thread Vedrana Valčić
Well :), I forwarded all messages from the list from past 3 days to you when 
you said you weren't getting anything. There were 31 of them. I think you're 
not getting any messages from the list, I don't know why. The messages you are 
sending to the list are coming through.

Vedrana

-Original Message-
From: Denise Hynd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:36 PM
To: Vedrana Valčić
Cc: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Problems with Ozmid List or not??

Nothing for several days and suddenly 31 from you Vedrana Valčić 
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

and nothing from the list not even my question


What is happening ??



Denise Hynd

Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by 
anyone, our bodies will be handled.

- Linda Hes

- Original Message - 
From: Vedrana Valčić [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:56 PM
Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:53 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

Hi Tania

I too have been checking out the facts on inductions after listening to the
same Obstetrician.  The Nice guidelines say that the mortality rate
is 1 in 3000 at 37 weeks 3 in 3000 at 41 weeks and 6 in 3000 at 43 weeks.
at 40wks 58% of women have delivered
at 41wks 74% of women have delivered
at 42wks 82% of women have delivered.

Due to all of the above the conclusion they make is induction prior to 41
wks increases work load without significantly lowering perinatal mortality.
The whole document can be read on www.nice.org.uk

Also there are some interesting figures on the birthlove site below. These
figures do show the risk for primip section is doubled with induction but
the over all section rate doesn't seem to be altered.  Unless I've
misinterpreted it.
http://www.birthlove.com/free/induction.html#first

Lisa Barrett



- Original Message - 
From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...


 Hi Belinda,

 Is this stat published anywhere, or just anecdotal?  A 60% section rate is
 twice the rate for the state, and I think twice the average for that
 hospital too, and having just heard a leading obstetrician there tell
 women
 that there is NO risk of an increase in c/s as a result of induction, I'm
 trying to get my head around it...

 Tania
 x

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
 Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:06 PM
 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
 Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

 Tania, at the wch the stats are - for primip women indcued before 41
 weeks there is a 60% cs rate.
 Belinda

 Tania Smallwood wrote:



 Just wondering if there are any good quality trials about IOL and
 increase of c/s?  Have just re-read Enkin, and it does state that IOL
 is not associated with an increase in caesarean section rate (but
 given that most states here are up around the 30% mark, you have to
 wonder what they are comparing that to?), but I thought something came
 out of the Uk not long ago disputing this?



 Anyone?



 Tania

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[ozmidwifery] Re: Problems with Ozmid List or not??

2005-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd

Vedrana
Thank you it was overwhelming
but I still do not know what is happening?
Denise Hynd

Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by 
anyone, our bodies will be handled.


- Linda Hes

- Original Message - 
From: Vedrana Valčić [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: Problems with Ozmid List or not??


Well :), I forwarded all messages from the list from past 3 days to you when 
you said you weren't getting anything. There were 31 of them. I think you're 
not getting any messages from the list, I don't know why. The messages you 
are sending to the list are coming through.


Vedrana

-Original Message-
From: Denise Hynd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:36 PM
To: Vedrana Valčić
Cc: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Problems with Ozmid List or not??

Nothing for several days and suddenly 31 from you Vedrana Valčić
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

and nothing from the list not even my question


What is happening ??



Denise Hynd

Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
anyone, our bodies will be handled.

- Linda Hes

- Original Message - 
From: Vedrana Valčić [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:56 PM
Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:53 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

Hi Tania

I too have been checking out the facts on inductions after listening to the
same Obstetrician.  The Nice guidelines say that the mortality rate
is 1 in 3000 at 37 weeks 3 in 3000 at 41 weeks and 6 in 3000 at 43 weeks.
at 40wks 58% of women have delivered
at 41wks 74% of women have delivered
at 42wks 82% of women have delivered.

Due to all of the above the conclusion they make is induction prior to 41
wks increases work load without significantly lowering perinatal mortality.
The whole document can be read on www.nice.org.uk

Also there are some interesting figures on the birthlove site below. These
figures do show the risk for primip section is doubled with induction but
the over all section rate doesn't seem to be altered.  Unless I've
misinterpreted it.
http://www.birthlove.com/free/induction.html#first

Lisa Barrett



- Original Message - 
From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...



Hi Belinda,

Is this stat published anywhere, or just anecdotal?  A 60% section rate is
twice the rate for the state, and I think twice the average for that
hospital too, and having just heard a leading obstetrician there tell
women
that there is NO risk of an increase in c/s as a result of induction, I'm
trying to get my head around it...

Tania
x

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:06 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] IOL and C/s...

Tania, at the wch the stats are - for primip women indcued before 41
weeks there is a 60% cs rate.
Belinda

Tania Smallwood wrote:




Just wondering if there are any good quality trials about IOL and
increase of c/s?  Have just re-read Enkin, and it does state that IOL
is not associated with an increase in caesarean section rate (but
given that most states here are up around the 30% mark, you have to
wonder what they are comparing that to?), but I thought something came
out of the Uk not long ago disputing this?



Anyone?



Tania


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2005-09-13 Thread Helen and Graham



This happened to me once and I deleted the name out 
of my address book and re-entered it. Some emails were coming up to 
"ozmidwifery" and some were coming up to ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au. 
I was sending OK but they didn't come back to my inbox. Never really understood 
how I got it to work again but it did after a few tries. Anyway, it is 
worth a try.

Helen


[ozmidwifery] URGENT - home birth video?

2005-09-13 Thread Janet Fraser



Hi 
all, 


I realise it's a late request but the one I had organised isn't available 
: Could anyone with a home birth video, commercial or personal, please 
stick it in an express post bag for me for this Sunday?I'd be ever so 
grateful! I'll even pay for the postage!You know I would!

Joyous Birth Home Birth 
Forum - a world first!http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/

Accessing Artemis Birth 
Trauma Recoveryhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis


Re: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - home birth video?

2005-09-13 Thread Janet Fraser



Utterly 
perfect

7 Abercorn Avenue Ivanhoe 
3079

Thank you so much! It's 
wonderful to be able to show women how birth *can* be with support.

J

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  brendamanning 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - home 
  birth video?
  
  Janet,
  Home waterbirth OK?
  Address ?
  I know you aren't leaving town !!
  Brenda
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Janet 
Fraser 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 
11:55 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - home 
birth video?

Hi all, 


I realise it's a late request but the one I had organised isn't 
available : Could anyone with a home birth video, commercial or personal, 
please stick it in an express post bag for me for this Sunday?I'd be 
ever so grateful! I'll even pay for the postage!You know I would!

Joyous Birth Home 
Birth Forum - a world first!http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/

Accessing Artemis 
Birth Trauma Recoveryhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis


Re: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - home birth video?

2005-09-13 Thread brendamanning



Done, post it this arvo.
Need it back in 2 weeks.
No drama
Cheers
Brenda
www.themidwife.com.au


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Janet 
  Fraser 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:51 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - home 
  birth video?
  
  Utterly 
  perfect
  
  7 Abercorn Avenue Ivanhoe 
  3079
  
  Thank you so much! It's 
  wonderful to be able to show women how birth *can* be with 
  support.
  
  J
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
brendamanning 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 
12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - 
home birth video?

Janet,
Home waterbirth OK?
Address ?
I know you aren't leaving town !!
Brenda

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Janet 
  Fraser 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 
  11:55 AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] URGENT - home 
  birth video?
  
  Hi all, 
  
  
  I realise it's a late request but the one I had organised isn't 
  available : Could anyone with a home birth video, commercial or personal, 
  please stick it in an express post bag for me for this Sunday?I'd be 
  ever so grateful! I'll even pay for the postage!You know I would!
  
  Joyous Birth Home 
  Birth Forum - a world first!http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/
  
  Accessing Artemis 
  Birth Trauma Recoveryhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis