RE: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor was Trial of scar

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke
Title: Message



Thanks...

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa 
  SingerSent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 1:11 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor 
  was Trial of scar
  I didn't think Lisa was dismissive of Gloria, and 
  I thought she made a valid and well stated point, which has encouraged debate, 
  discussion and further thought. Thanks Lisa
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Stephen  
Felicity 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:12 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor 
was Trial of scar

Lisa,

"such a broad unsupported statement could lead a woman to 
believe that the current management of her pregnancy is incorrect because 
she read on this list of very experienced midwives and doulas that decreased 
liqour was only due to imminent labour."

Well, since women 
aren't morons, and pregnancy is not really an issue of "management" but 
rather CARE and SUPPORT, I don't think we need to fear that a woman reading 
research, evidence and opinion and making her own decisionswill 
trulybe endangered by "a little bit of knowledge" - if she is able to 
enjoy true control of her own pregnancy and birth and receive true care and 
support. Besides which I personally find no flaw in Janet's reasoning 
and statement; it's accurate. And this is a consumer list as much as 
it is a Midwife and Doula list.

"Mary I was 
not 'dismissing" the opinions of Gloria Lemay, and I am aware of her 
background."

Gloria Lemay's wisdom, 
experience and evidence based knowledge is not "the opinion of an American 
Doula" (I don't know of many women with more claim to the title of MIDWIFE 
than Gloria!) - besides which, I'm intrigued as to why an American Doula's 
contributions would hold little weight anyway? If you ARE in fact 
aware of her background (as well as the fact that she can see and post on 
this list), I would have thought you would have at leastphrased your 
dismissal more respectfully. I also feel sad that wisdom, intuition, 
instinct and common senseare rejected and that Midwives will disregard 
the hard won wisdom of their own (Gloria made some colossal personal 
sacrifices in honour of TRULY being with woman and providing REAL support 
and care).

Where is our respect 
for our real crones and our birthing women's innate wisdom?

And I wouldn't "shoot 
an opinion from an Obstetrician down in flames" if that opinion was 
accurate, fair, woman-centered, evidence-based,and 
reasonable.


[ozmidwifery] Low liquor was Trial of scar

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke
Title: Message




Felicity 
I have 
deliberatley left replying until today so as not to reply in haste or 
anger and to try and understand where you are coming 
from
Firstly I agree with you that women are not morons; but the reality for 
many of us is that the women we work with are not always willing to do extensive 
research into a form of care that is presented to them, and for some research 
may just involve logging onto the internet and reading statements such as 
Janets, I still believe that such a statment is too broad could prove 
problematic in such a situation. You are lucky if you work with women who read 
research and make informed descisons because for many of us, our realities are 
unfortuantely different and despite all the empowering in the worldsome 
choose not to be like this. And I disagree with the accuracy of Janets 
statement, as I am unable to find any literature that states that low liquor 
means labour is imminent. And for some women, decreased liqour volume, when 
present with other variables is indicative of an increased risk to the well 
being of her baby.

In 
hindsight I probably could have worded my post better- my dismissiveness related 
to the fact that I was presented with an opinion based paper as evidence for 
Janets statement, and yes opinion counts, but as a health professional I am also 
required to provide women with eveidence based information. No disrespect was 
directed at anyone. Yes I still believe that alittle knowledge can be 
dangerous.A perfect example is the woman whohas a normal 
healthyfetus and decreased liqour .is told by the doc that she must 
have IOL because there is a risk to the baby...she asks no further 
questions...presents for IOL which fails and she goes to CS, and has a PPH.. is 
this not acase of alittle info being dangerous...am sure midwives 
have countless such examples! 

And in 
regards to birthing womans innate wisdom well, again this is not always the case 
unfortunately; as a woman presenting weekly from 32K, with various aches and 
pains, in the hope that someone will suggest IOL because she is tired of being 
pregnant is not being particulary wise. Not all woman have the wisdom or the 
intuiton when it comes to their pregnancies and their bodies that you speak of. 
In such a public forum I think we need to take into account all the women who 
birth babies in this country...including those who are experiencing less than 
normal pregnancies, and those too who choose not to inform themselves 
adequately, or those who leave the choices up to others.
Lisa
PS my 
apologies if I offended anyone for my use of the word 
'management'I obviously require further tuition in the art of 
political correctedness.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen 
   FelicitySent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:12 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor 
  was Trial of scar
  Lisa,
  
  "such a broad unsupported statement could lead a woman to 
  believe that the current management of her pregnancy is incorrect because she 
  read on this list of very experienced midwives and doulas that decreased 
  liqour was only due to imminent labour."
  
  Well, since women aren't 
  morons, and pregnancy is not really an issue of "management" but rather CARE 
  and SUPPORT, I don't think we need to fear that a woman reading research, 
  evidence and opinion and making her own decisionswill trulybe 
  endangered by "a little bit of knowledge" - if she is able to enjoy true 
  control of her own pregnancy and birth and receive true care and 
  support. Besides which I personally find no flaw in Janet's reasoning 
  and statement; it's accurate. And this is a consumer list as much as it 
  is a Midwife and Doula list.
  
  "Mary I was not 
  'dismissing" the opinions of Gloria Lemay, and I am aware of her 
  background."
  
  Gloria Lemay's wisdom, 
  experience and evidence based knowledge is not "the opinion of an American 
  Doula" (I don't know of many women with more claim to the title of MIDWIFE 
  than Gloria!) - besides which, I'm intrigued as to why an American Doula's 
  contributions would hold little weight anyway? If you ARE in fact aware 
  of her background (as well as the fact that she can see and post on this 
  list), I would have thought you would have at leastphrased your 
  dismissal more respectfully. I also feel sad that wisdom, intuition, 
  instinct and common senseare rejected and that Midwives will disregard 
  the hard won wisdom of their own (Gloria made some colossal personal 
  sacrifices in honour of TRULY being with woman and providing REAL support and 
  care).
  
  Where is our respect for 
  our real crones and our birthing women's innate wisdom?
  
  And I wouldn't "shoot an 
  opinion from an Obstetrician down in flames" if that opinion was accurate, 
  fair, woman-centered, evidence-based,and 

: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor was Trial of scar

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke

Felicity 
I have deliberatley left replying  until today so as not to reply in haste
or anger and to try and understand where you are coming from
Firstly I agree with you that women are not morons; but the reality for many
of us is that the women we work with are not always willing to do extensive
research into a form of care that is presented to them, and for some
research may just involve logging onto  the internet and reading statements
such as Janets, I still believe that such a statment is too broad  could
prove problematic in such a situation. You are lucky if you work with women
who read research and make informed descisons because for many of us, our
realities are unfortuantely different and despite all the empowering in the
world some choose not to be like this. And I disagree with the accuracy of
Janets statement, as I am unable to find any literature that states that low
liquor means labour is imminent. And for some women, decreased liqour
volume, when present with other variables is indicative of an increased risk
to the well being of her baby.

In hindsight I probably could have worded my post better- my dismissiveness
related to the fact that I was presented with an opinion based paper as
evidence for Janets statement, and yes opinion counts, but as a health
professional I am also required to provide women with eveidence based
information. No disrespect was directed at anyone. Yes I still believe that
alittle knowledge can be dangerous. A perfect example is the woman who has a
normal healthy fetus and decreased liqour .is told by the doc that she
must have IOL because there is a risk to the baby...she asks no further
questions...presents for IOL which fails and she goes to CS, and has a PPH..
is this not a case of alittle info being dangerous... am sure midwives have
countless such examples!  

And in regards to birthing womans innate wisdom well, again this is not
always the case unfortunately; as a woman presenting weekly from 32K, with
various aches and pains, in the hope that someone will suggest IOL because
she is tired of being pregnant is not being particulary wise. Not all woman
have the wisdom or the intuiton when it comes to their pregnancies and their
bodies that you speak of. In such a public forum I think we need to take
into account all the women who birth babies in this country...including
those who are experiencing less than normal pregnancies, and those too who
choose not to inform themselves adequately, or those who leave the choices
up to others.

Lisa

PS my apologies if I offended anyone for my use of the word
'management'I obviously require further tuition in the art
of political correctedness.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen 
Felicity
Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:12 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor was Trial of scar


Lisa,

such a broad  unsupported statement could lead a woman to believe that the
current management of her pregnancy is incorrect because she read on this
list of very experienced midwives and doulas that decreased liqour was only
due to imminent labour.

Well, since women aren't morons, and pregnancy is not really an issue of
management but rather CARE and SUPPORT, I don't think we need to fear that
a woman reading research, evidence and opinion and making her own decisions
will truly be endangered by a little bit of knowledge - if she is able to
enjoy true control of her own pregnancy and birth and receive true care and
support.  Besides which I personally find no flaw in Janet's reasoning and
statement; it's accurate.  And this is a consumer list as much as it is a
Midwife and Doula list.

Mary I was not 'dismissing the opinions of Gloria Lemay, and I am aware of
her background.

Gloria Lemay's wisdom, experience and evidence based knowledge is not the
opinion of an American Doula (I don't know of many women with more claim to
the title of MIDWIFE than Gloria!) - besides which, I'm intrigued as to why
an American Doula's contributions would hold little weight anyway?  If you
ARE in fact aware of her background (as well as the fact that she can see
and post on this list), I would have thought you would have at least phrased
your dismissal more respectfully.  I also feel sad that wisdom, intuition,
instinct and common sense are rejected and that Midwives will disregard the
hard won wisdom of their own (Gloria made some colossal personal sacrifices
in honour of TRULY being with woman and providing REAL support and care).

Where is our respect for our real crones and our birthing women's innate
wisdom?

And I wouldn't shoot an opinion from an Obstetrician down in flames if
that opinion was accurate, fair, woman-centered, evidence-based, and
reasonable.


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[ozmidwifery] Today's West Australian

2006-07-12 Thread Susan Cudlipp



At last - something positive about birth in the 
media!!
In todays Health and Medicine section of the west 
was 3 page cover on where and why women choose to birth. Mums ranged 
from: 1 unplanned C/S for preterm breech, 1 planned c/s for placenta praevia, 1 
planned c/s who changed her mind after talking to a midwife and had a '2 hour 
natural labour and birth', 1 VBAC, 1 Birth Centre birth and 1 planned 
homebirth!!!
They also recommended talking to a GP or midwife 
(note - NOT an obstetrician! in fact the "O" word barely gets a mention but 
"midwife' gets plenty) and checking out all the hosps, birth centre and 
community midwifery program (i.e. shop around) plus some good reading, and 
informing yourself/ asking questions/changing your mind and knowing that you can 
make these choices.

Women need to get more of this- more balanced views 
on birth and understand that they have choices - it quite cheered me up 
today!
Sue


Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!

2006-07-12 Thread Pinky McKay



Hi Kelly - Kerri Anne is on Tomorrow ( prerecord 
yesterday) -Thursday 13th between 10.30 and 11am

Also - nine am with david and Kim tomorrow am - I 
think thats before ten -

Pinky

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:57 
PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV 
  tomorrow x 2!!!
  
  
  Tomorrow 
  on TODAY: Sleeping like a 
  baby? Does your 
  baby or toddler have trouble sleeping? Be watching tomorrow at 8.10am when we 
  speak with parenting expert Pinky McKay about this common problem. If you'd 
  like to ask Pinky a question - email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  Best 
  Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions 
  From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
  Support - 
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
  On Behalf Of Kelly @ 
  BellyBellySent: Tuesday, 11 
  July 2006 5:53 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV 
  tomorrow x 2!!!
  
  Hello 
  all!
  
  Please tune into the Today Show 
  (8.10am AEST) and Kerri-Anne (bet. 10.30-11am AEST) tomorrow, the 11th July. Pinky 
  will be on and she needs our support!!! Don’t forget to write in, AFTER the 
  show hehehe to let them know we loved her being on and would like to see more. 
  Go Pinky! (who sounds like she is having a gorgeous time in Sydney!!!)
  Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
  Support - 
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  


[ozmidwifery] The weekend australian

2006-07-12 Thread cath nolan



There was an article in the careers section of last 
weekends Australian, that was an interesting read on c/section. The photo that 
went with it has me perplexed though.It appears to show a bub being born by 
caesarean, still in the abdomen but with an ET tube and sats monitor. It is 
lovely and pink and has a cord that doesn't appear to have been clamped. anyone 
have any ideas? 
Cath


Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!

2006-07-12 Thread Jo Watson
Thanks for your reply on the Today show, Pinky ;)I thought you came across really well, and hopefully made people think twice about co-sleeping, especially.9am with David and Kim, what's that show? Or is that the name of the show?  I don't think we get that here in WA if it is the name.Good luck!JoOn 12/07/2006, at 7:19 PM, Pinky McKay wrote:Hi Kelly - Kerri Anne is on Tomorrow ( prerecord yesterday) -Thursday 13th between 10.30 and 11am Also - nine am with david and Kim tomorrow am - I think thats before ten - Pinky- Original Message -From: Kelly @ BellyBellyTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:57 PMSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!Tomorrow on TODAY: Sleeping like a baby? Does your baby or toddler have trouble sleeping? Be watching tomorrow at 8.10am when we speak with parenting expert Pinky McKay about this common problem. If you'd like to ask Pinky a question - email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-supportFrom: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 5:53 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!! Hello all! Please tune into the Today Show (8.10am AEST) and Kerri-Anne (bet. 10.30-11am AEST) tomorrow, the 11th July. Pinky will be on and she needs our support!!! Don’t forget to write in, AFTER the show hehehe to let them know we loved her being on and would like to see more. Go Pinky! (who sounds like she is having a gorgeous time in Sydney!!!)Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support 

[ozmidwifery] Interesting article

2006-07-12 Thread Mary Murphy








Antiviral reduces vertical herpes transmission
Source:Obstetrics
 Gynecology 2006; 108: 141-7

Measuring
the efficacy of valacyclovir suppression in late pregnancy for reducing herpes
recurrence and the need for cesarean delivery. 

Treating pregnant
women who have a history of genital herpes with the antiviral valacyclovir
lowers the risk that they will need a cesarean to protect the infant from
infection, a randomized controlled trial suggests. 

Women
with active genital herpes or prodromal symptoms at the time of labor are
currently recommended to have a cesarean. However, 70 percent of cases of
neonatal infection occur in infants born to women who asymptomatically shed the
virus near delivery. 

In the
current study, Jeanne Sheffield (University of Texas Southwestern Medical
Center, Dallas, USA) and colleagues assessed the
prophylactic efficacy of valacyclovir, a prodrug of acyclovir, one of the most
commonly used antiviral drugs. 

In all,
170 women were treated with valacyclovir from 36 weeks' gestation and 168 were
given placebo. At delivery, 13 percent of the women in the placebo group had a
herpes recurrence warranting cesarean delivery, compared with just 4 percent of
those given prophylaxis. 

I
think this will help immensely in giving doctors stronger evidence in using
this treatment, Sheffield commented. 

Besides
reducing the number of herpes outbreaks at birth, we also dropped the numbers
of women without symptoms who were shedding the virus into the birth
canal, she explained.

Posted:
12 July 2006










[ozmidwifery] MCHN problems

2006-07-12 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly








Thank
goodness she is going to do something about this  it was one of the
Moderators on my site that this happened to:



I took Rosie
down yesterday just to get her weighed
- (9kg BTW! 90th percentile, and my smallest bubba at this age ). Anyway she was going through the book
and checking off all of the questions relating to a 6month old when it came to
solids So I tell her that Rosie isn't really into them, so we are just
trying little bits to get her used to textures and flavours. 

This nurse was a nutter - this is what she
told me...

So goes off saying that at 6months she should be having a few meals a day then
puts her hands up to her head and says Hmmm just thinking...no I don't
think we'll introduce formula at this point WT Formula??? I am
breastfeeding with NO supply problems, and no problems other than being worn
out and she is thinking formula???

Then says that she is surprised that I am able to breastfeed because she is my
third baby and the quality of my milk wouldn't be so good.

Then...and this is the corker...says that I should deny Imogen breast because a
baby will eat when it gets hungry. I may have to put up with screaming for a
while until she realises that she won't be getting a breast feed, but when
she's that hungry she'll eat solid food...OMG OMG OMG And
I should give water instead of BM.

She also started talking developmental delay because Imogen is too lazy to get
up and move! She is ONLY 6 MONTHS!!! Thank God I am confident in my mothering
enough to ignore all of her crap!

This is the same nurse that told me that when Imogen was 4months old that she
should start solid food because being 8kgs, she is ready.

Anyway my point to this massive post is that, is it any wonder that people
introduce solid food at 3months, or cut down milk feeds for solids I fear
for the new mothers that don't have the confidence in themselves to do what is
right. Not once did she mention that milk is to be the primary food until
12months, or that solid food is just complimentary until then. This health professional is giving out dodgy
advice and people will believe her because of her position as a CHN.

I will be writing to the chemist and complaining about the advice given,
because she is going against all WHO recommendations and I am sure she has made
more than one mother feel like crap because of her stupid ideas.







Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support










[ozmidwifery] Today Tonight asking for feedback

2006-07-12 Thread Helen and Graham



There is a section on the Today Tonight website 
asking for feedback about the rising rates of caesarian births. It's down 
the bottom right hand corner.
http://seven.com.au/todaytonight

Get writing. I didn't see the 
program. Has anyone got a transcript? I have written a letter anyway 
putting my two cents worth in.

Helen


[ozmidwifery] article FYI

2006-07-12 Thread leanne wynne

Circumcision Could Cut HIV Infection
Male Circumcision Would Prevent Millions of AIDS Deaths in Africa

By Daniel DeNoon
WebMD Medical News

Reviewed By Louise Chang, MD on Tuesday, July 11, 2006

July 11, 2006 -- Male circumcision , if widely adopted in Africa, would 
prevent 3 million deaths over 20 years. It would work as well as a 
moderately effective AIDS vaccine.


The prediction comes from an international team of researchers including 
Brian G. Williams, PhD, of the World Health Organization. They report their 
findings in the July issue of the public-access, online journal PLoS 
Medicine.


Male circumcision could avert 2 million new HIV infections and 300,000 
deaths over the next 10 years in sub-Saharan Africa, Williams and 
colleagues write. In the 10 years after that, it could avert a further 3.7 
million new infections and 2.7 million deaths.


About a fourth of the impact would be in South Africa, which is particularly 
hard-hit by the AIDS pandemic.


These estimates are based on a 2005 clinical trial that found male 
circumcision reduces female-to-male spread of HIV -- the AIDS virus -- by 
60%.


This would be the same effect as an AIDS vaccine that was 37% effective in 
protecting both men and women against HIV infection.


Preventing HIV infection of men would slow HIV spread to women. But Williams 
and colleagues note that women need protection of their own -- a safe, 
HIV-killing agent that could be applied directly to the vagina prior to sex.


And while it's important to find ways to cut the spread of HIV, it's even 
more important to get effective treatments to people already infected with 
the virus that causes AIDS.


The need to keep HIV-positive people alive through the provision of [AIDS 
drugs] remains the most immediate priority, Williams and colleagues write.





SOURCE: Williams, B.G. PLoS Medicine, July 2006; vol: 3 pp e262.

© 2006 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved



Leanne Wynne
Midwife in charge of Women's Business
Mildura Aboriginal Health Service  Mob 0418 371862


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!

2006-07-12 Thread Pinky McKay



The show is called Nine am and david and Kim are 
teh presenters. Its teh same time as Bert used to be on - smae time as Kerri 
Anne - but being in WA - the channel ten show I was on Live earlier - about 10 
am and Kerri- anne just after 10.30 - it was prerecorded.

Hopefully lots of mums can relax -= was one of the 
email questions on Today from you?

The media response has been phenomenal -I have 
already been asked back on several of them.

Pinky
www.pinky-mychild

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jo Watson 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:09 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV 
  tomorrow x 2!!!
  Thanks for your reply on the Today show, Pinky ;)
  I thought you came across really well, and hopefully made people think 
  twice about co-sleeping, especially.
  
  9am with David and Kim, what's that show? Or is that the name of the 
  show? I don't think we get that here in WA if it is the name.
  
  Good luck!
  
  Jo
  
  
  On 12/07/2006, at 7:19 PM, Pinky McKay wrote:
  
Hi Kelly - Kerri Anne is on 
Tomorrow ( prerecord yesterday) -Thursday 13th between 10.30 and 
11am

Also - nine am with david and 
Kim tomorrow am - I think thats before ten -

Pinky

  - Original Message 
  -
  From: 
  Kelly 
  @ BellyBelly
  To: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:57 PM
  Subject: RE: 
  [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!
  
  
  Tomorrow 
  on TODAY: 
  Sleeping like a baby? 
  Does 
  your baby or toddler have trouble sleeping? Be watching tomorrow at 8.10am 
  when we speak with parenting expert Pinky McKay about this common problem. 
  If you'd like to ask Pinky a question - email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  Best 
  Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly 
  Birth Support 
  - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  
  
  
  
  From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
  On Behalf 
  Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: 
  Tuesday, 11 July 2006 5:53 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: 
  [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!
  
  Hello all!
  
  Please tune into the Today 
  Show (8.10am AEST) and Kerri-Anne (bet. 10.30-11am AEST) tomorrow, the 
  11th July. 
  Pinky will be on and she needs our support!!! Don’t forget to write in, 
  AFTER the show hehehe to let them know we loved her being on and would 
  like to see more. Go Pinky! (who sounds like she is having a gorgeous 
  time in Sydney!!!)
  Best 
  Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly 
  Birth Support 
  - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!

2006-07-12 Thread Jo Watson
Yup the first email she read out to you on the Today show was mine :)I hope to catch your other appearances - as I think you are very well spoken, don't seem to get flustered with questions, and have a lot of great ideas :)Thanks,JoOn 13/07/2006, at 9:09 AM, Pinky McKay wrote:The show is called Nine am and david and Kim are teh presenters. Its teh same time as Bert used to be on - smae time as Kerri Anne - but being in WA - the channel ten show I was on Live earlier - about 10 am and Kerri- anne just after 10.30 - it was prerecorded. Hopefully lots of mums can relax -= was one of the email questions on Today from you? The media response has been phenomenal -I have already been asked back on several of them. Pinkywww.pinky-mychild- Original Message -From: Jo WatsonTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:09 PMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!Thanks for your reply on the Today show, Pinky ;)I thought you came across really well, and hopefully made people think twice about co-sleeping, especially.9am with David and Kim, what's that show? Or is that the name of the show?  I don't think we get that here in WA if it is the name.Good luck!JoOn 12/07/2006, at 7:19 PM, Pinky McKay wrote:Hi Kelly - Kerri Anne is on Tomorrow ( prerecord yesterday) -Thursday 13th between 10.30 and 11am Also - nine am with david and Kim tomorrow am - I think thats before ten - Pinky- Original Message -From: Kelly @ BellyBellyTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:57 PMSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!Tomorrow on TODAY: Sleeping like a baby? Does your baby or toddler have trouble sleeping? Be watching tomorrow at 8.10am when we speak with parenting expert Pinky McKay about this common problem. If you'd like to ask Pinky a question - email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-supportFrom: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBellySent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 5:53 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky on TV tomorrow x 2!!!Hello all!Please tune into the Today Show (8.10am AEST) and Kerri-Anne (bet. 10.30-11am AEST) tomorrow, the 11th July. Pinky will be on and she needs our support!!! Don’t forget to write in, AFTER the show hehehe to let them know we loved her being on and would like to see more. Go Pinky! (who sounds like she is having a gorgeous time in Sydney!!!)Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

Re: [ozmidwifery] MCHN problems

2006-07-12 Thread cath nolan



can I ask why is a letter being written to the 
chemist? Was this a MCHN or a nurse in a different role. I live in the country 
and MCHN are in a child health centre office.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:22 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] MCHN 
problems
  
  
  Thank 
  goodness she is going to do something about this – it was one of the 
  Moderators on my site that this happened to:
  
  I took 
  Rosie down yesterday just to get her 
  weighed - (9kg BTW! 90th percentile, and my smallest bubba at this 
  age ). Anyway 
  she was going through the book and checking off all of the questions relating 
  to a 6month old when it came to solids So I tell her that Rosie isn't 
  really into them, so we are just trying little bits to get her used to 
  textures and flavours. This nurse 
  was a nutter - this is what she told me...So goes off 
  saying that at 6months she should be having a few meals a day then puts her 
  hands up to her head and says "Hmmm just thinking...no I don't think we'll 
  introduce formula at this point" WT Formula??? I am breastfeeding with NO 
  supply problems, and no problems other than being worn out and she is thinking 
  formula???Then says that she is surprised that I am able to breastfeed 
  because she is my third baby and the quality of my milk wouldn't be so 
  good.Then...and this is the corker...says that I should deny Imogen 
  breast because a baby will eat when it gets hungry. I may have to put up with 
  screaming for a while until she realises that she won't be getting a breast 
  feed, but when she's that hungry she'll eat solid 
  food...OMG 
  OMG OMG And I 
  should give water instead of BM.She also started talking developmental 
  delay because Imogen is too lazy to get up and move! She is ONLY 6 MONTHS!!! 
  Thank God I am confident in my mothering enough to ignore all of her 
  crap!This is the same nurse that told me that when Imogen was 4months 
  old that she should start solid food because being 8kgs, she is 
  ready.Anyway my point to this massive post is that, is it any wonder 
  that people introduce solid food at 3months, or cut down milk feeds for 
  solids I fear for the new mothers that don't have the confidence in 
  themselves to do what is right. Not once did she mention that milk is to be 
  the primary food until 12months, or that solid food is just complimentary 
  until then. This health 
  professional is giving out dodgy advice and people will believe her 
  because of her position as a CHN.I will be writing to the chemist and 
  complaining about the advice given, because she is going against all WHO 
  recommendations and I am sure she has made more than one mother feel like crap 
  because of her stupid ideas.
  
  
  Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, 
  BellyBelly.com.au 
  Gentle 
  Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
  Support - 
  http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support
  


RE: [ozmidwifery] MCHN problems

2006-07-12 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly








Sometimes here I notice MCHNs go to
chemists for weighing etc  must be some arrangement with the chemist /
council?. I have directed her to write to the MCH co-ordinator though.





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of cath nolan
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:53
AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MCHN
problems







can I ask why is a letter being written to the chemist? Was
this a MCHN or a nurse in a different role. I live in the country and MCHN are
in a child health centre office.







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Thursday, July 13,
2006 8:22 AM





Subject: [ozmidwifery] MCHN
problems









Thank
goodness she is going to do something about this  it was one of the
Moderators on my site that this happened to:



I took Rosie
down yesterday just to get her weighed
- (9kg BTW! 90th percentile, and my smallest bubba at this age ). Anyway she was going through the book and
checking off all of the questions relating to a 6month old when it came to
solids So I tell her that Rosie isn't really into them, so we are just
trying little bits to get her used to textures and flavours. 

This nurse was a nutter - this is what she
told me...

So goes off saying that at 6months she should be having a few meals a day then
puts her hands up to her head and says Hmmm just thinking...no I don't
think we'll introduce formula at this point WT Formula??? I am
breastfeeding with NO supply problems, and no problems other than being worn
out and she is thinking formula???

Then says that she is surprised that I am able to breastfeed because she is my
third baby and the quality of my milk wouldn't be so good.

Then...and this is the corker...says that I should deny Imogen breast because a
baby will eat when it gets hungry. I may have to put up with screaming for a
while until she realises that she won't be getting a breast feed, but when
she's that hungry she'll eat solid food...OMG OMG OMG And I
should give water instead of BM.

She also started talking developmental delay because Imogen is too lazy to get
up and move! She is ONLY 6 MONTHS!!! Thank God I am confident in my mothering
enough to ignore all of her crap!

This is the same nurse that told me that when Imogen was 4months old that she
should start solid food because being 8kgs, she is ready.

Anyway my point to this massive post is that, is it any wonder that people
introduce solid food at 3months, or cut down milk feeds for solids I fear
for the new mothers that don't have the confidence in themselves to do what is
right. Not once did she mention that milk is to be the primary food until
12months, or that solid food is just complimentary until then. This health professional is giving out dodgy
advice and people will believe her because of her position as a CHN.

I will be writing to the chemist and complaining about the advice given,
because she is going against all WHO recommendations and I am sure she has made
more than one mother feel like crap because of her stupid ideas.







Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support












[ozmidwifery] Maternal hydration liquor volume

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke



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Focus on Fluids: Examining Maternal Hydration and Amniotic Fluid Volume
[Features]

Calhoun, Simone RNC, BSN
Simone Calhoun, RNC, BSN, is a perinatal nurse clinician, at St. Francis
Hospital and Medical Center in Manchester, CT.

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Outline

  Factors Affecting Amniotic Fluid Volume

  Conditions Associated with Oligohydramnios

  Mechanics of Amniotic Fluid Balance

  Evaluating Amniotic Fluid Volume

  Nursing Implications

  References

Graphics

Figure 1
Figure 2
Figure 3

Case Study Rebecca is a 33-year-old gravida 3, para 1011, health care
professional at 31.5 weeks' gestation currently being treated with 2.5 mg
terbutaline and being checked every 4 hours for signs of preterm labor. She
has had an upper respiratory infection with severe nasal congestion for
which she had taken Chlor-trimetron (4 mg) twice overnight. A nonstress test
(NST) was nonreactive. Fetal heart rate baseline was 150 beats/minute, with
an average LTV and no decelerations. One contraction was noted in 40
minutes. Biophysical profile score was 6/10 (-2 NST, -2 amniotic fluid
volume [AFV]), with no cord-free pocket of 2 x 2 cm in two dimensions.
Amniotic fluid index (AFI) was 2.4 cm. Placenta was posterior and fundal
(grade 1). A sonogram 1 week earlier showed fetal growth in the 50th
percentile and an AFI of 14.6 cm.

After discussion with maternal-fetal medicine personnel, who suggested a
possible need for delivery because of severe oligohydramnios, the AFI was
reevaluated and 6 hours later was found to be 7.8 cm. The patient stated
that she had been drinking copious amounts of fluid since the initial AFI.
The patient continued pregnancy with a twice-weekly NST and amniotic fluid
evaluation. The AFI remained in the 8- to 9-cm range. Terbutaline was
discontinued at 37 weeks. The patient spontaneously delivered a 6-pound,
9-ounce healthy boy with Apgar scores of 8 and 9 at 37 weeks, 3 days. Mother
and infant were discharged after 48 hours.

Factors Affecting Amniotic Fluid Volume

Historically, oligohydramnios in the absence of rupture of membranes has
been considered to be a sign of chronic suboptimal placental function that
leads to decreased fetal urine output. Acute decreases in AFV because of
inadequate maternal hydration or medication effects aren't widely reported.
This begs two
questions:

* Assuming no technical errors, was the rapidly improved amniotic fluid
observed in this case patient due to the effect of oral hydration?

* Could lack of maternal hydration adversely affect AFV?

Studies support the notion that maternal fluid volume may play an important
role in maintaining AFV. Sherer et al. (1990) reported a case of severe
oligohydramnios in a woman who presented with severe dehydration because of
gastroenteritis. After the patient was hydrated with 6,500 ml intravenous
crystalloid fluid and was no longer hypovolemic, a rapid reaccumulation of
AFV to normal status was observed. Also, Kilpatrick and Safford (1993) found
that fluid restriction decreased the AFI by 8 percent. Kilpatrick and
Safford also showed that maternal oral hydration with 2 liters of water over
a 2-hour period increased the AFI in pregnancies with normal AFV by 16
percent. Previously, Kilpatrick et al. (1991) had shown that maternal oral
hydration with 2 liters of fluids over 2 hours increased the AFI by 31
percent in women with decreased AFV.

In contrast, Flack et al. (1995) and Kerr (1996) found that oral hydration
increased the AFI in women with oligohydramnios, but did not significantly
increase AFI in women with normal amounts of amniotic fluid. Flack et al.
(1995) found that the increased AFI was not attributable to increased fetal
urine production but instead was probably attributable to improved
uteroplacental perfusion caused by maternal plasma volume expansion. Flack
et al.'s research also suggests that there may be fluid passage from the
maternal intravascular compartment into the amniotic fluid compartment.
Although demonstrated in animal studies, this hasn't been evaluated in
humans. Animal studies have found significant flows of amniotic fluid
through the transmembranous pathway between the fetal vessels on the
chorionic plate and the amniotic cavity (Flack et al., 1995). Flack et al.
also suggested that AFV volume may be increased by intramembranous net water
transfer between mother and fetus across the chorionic plate, fetal skin,
and the surface of the umbilical cord. Kilpatrick and Safford
(1993) noted a significant increase in umbilical artery mean velocity after
maternal hydration and theorized that hydration may work to increase the AFI
by improving placental blood flow or by bulk transfer of water across the
placenta.

Conditions Associated with 

RE: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor was Trial of scar

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke
Title: Message



Mary 
here is a quick summary of what I found all pretty standard stuff.have full 
text papers if anyone is interested in any of the points...some of interest 
forwarded to the list..

  isolated oligohydramnios at term in relation to no other fetal or 
  maternal health issue is not an indication for IOL...although may 
  require further monitoring 
  oligohydramnios diagnosed prior to third trimester has poor outcomes- 
  live birth rate in one small study of only 1 in 15
  measurement of liqour volume is done in different ways and alone is a 
  poor predictor of problems but is probably quite useful when combined with 
  other tests such as dopplers to monitor high risk 
  pregnancies
  oligohydramnios is common in IUGR and in such cases warrants further 
  ongoing assessment of fetal wellbing
  fetal 
  growth restriction is the most common cause of stillbirth and one study 
  suggests probably plays a large role in those IUFDs which are reported as 
  unexplained
  overall oligohydramnios probably is related to an an increase in fetal 
  intolerability of labour and an increase in CS for fetal distress; and a 
  increase in the incidence of low apgarat 5 minutes;no study 
  has shown at relationship between oligohydramnios and neonatal 
  acidosis
  maternal oral hydration has been shown to improve liqour volume within 
  hours and probably has a lasting effect 
Regards Lisa

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary 
  MurphySent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 6:24 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Low liquor 
  was Trial of scar
  
  have done my own lit 
  r/v and answered my own questions!! Regards Lisa 
  
  
  Lisa, 
  would you share this with us? I am very interested in the subject. 
  Thanks. MM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  



[ozmidwifery] AFI perienatal outcomes

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke


Perinatal outcome and amniotic fluid index in the antepartum and intrapartum
periods: A meta-analysis [General Obstetrics And Gynecology: Obstetrics]
Chauhan, Suneet P. MDa; Sanderson, Maureen PhDb; Hendrix, Nancy W. MDa;
Magann, Everett F. MDc; Devoe, Lawrence D. MDd

Spartanburg and Columbia, South Carolina, Jackson, Mississippi, and Augusta,
Georgia From the Spartanburg Regional Medical Center,a the Department of
Epidemiology and Biostatistics, University of South Carolina,b the
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Mississippi,c and the
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Medical College of Georgia.d
Received for publication October 2, 1998; revised January 19, 1999; accepted
July 29, 1999. Reprint requests: Suneet P. Chauhan, MD, Division of
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, Regional Women's Health Care, 853 North Church St,
Suite 403, Spartanburg, SC 29303. Abstract
OBJECTIVE: Our purpose was to perform a meta-analysis of studies on the
risks of cesarean delivery for fetal distress, 5-minute Apgar score 7, and
umbilical arterial pH 7.00 in patients with antepartum or intrapartum
amniotic fluid index 5.0 or 5.0 cm.

STUDY DESIGN: Using a MEDLINE search, we reviewed all studies published
between 1987 and 1997 that correlated antepartum or intrapartum amniotic
fluid index with adverse peripartum outcomes. The inclusion criteria were
studies in English that associated at least one of the selected adverse
outcomes with an amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm versus 5.0 cm.
Contingency tables were constructed for each study, and relative risks and
standard errors of their logs were calculated. Fixed-effects pooled relative
risks were calculated for groups of studies that were homogeneous, whereas
random-effects pooled relative risks were calculated for significantly
heterogeneous groups of studies.

RESULTS: Eighteen reports describing 10,551 patients met our inclusion
criteria. An antepartum amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm, in comparison with
5.0 cm, is associated with an increased risk of cesarean delivery for fetal
distress (pooled relative risk, 2.2; 95% confidence interval, 1.5-3.4) and
an Apgar score of 7 at 5 minutes (pooled relative risk, 5.2; 95% confidence
interval, 2.4-11.3). An intrapartum amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm is also
associated with an increased risk of cesarean delivery for fetal distress
(pooled relative risk, 1.7; 95% confidence interval, 1.1-2.6) and an Apgar
score 7 at 5 minutes (pooled relative risk, 1.8; 95% confidence interval,
1.2-2.7). A poor correlation between the amniotic fluid index and neonatal
acidosis was noted in the only study that examined this end point. More than
23,000 patients are necessary to demonstrate that the incidence of umbilical
arterial pH 7.00 is 1.5 times higher among those with oligohydramnios in
labor than among those with adequate amniotic fluid index ([alpha] = 0.05;
[beta] = 0.2)

CONCLUSIONS: An antepartum or intrapartum amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm
is associated with a significantly increased risk of cesarean delivery for
fetal distress and a low Apgar score at 5 minutes. There are few reports
linking amniotic fluid index and neonatal acidosis, the only objective
assessment of fetal well-being. A multicenter study with sufficient power
should be undertaken to demonstrate that a low amniotic fluid index is
associated with an umbilical arterial pH 7.00.






Ultrasonographic assessment of amniotic fluid is used frequently to identify
fetuses at risk of having adverse outcomes as suggested by the finding of
abnormal fluid volumes. Hydramnios is associated with anomalies or
aneuploidy,1 whereas oligohydramnios is linked with pulmonary hypoplasia,
postural deformity, fetal distress, and perinatal morbidity and death.2 In
1987 Phelan et al 3 described the amniotic fluid index (AFI) as the
summation of the largest vertical pocket in 4 quadrants. This technique of
assessing amniotic fluid volume has become increasingly popular in obstetric
practice. A MEDLINE search for reports published from 1987 to 1997 includes
125 publications with AFI as the subject. A recent Technical Bulletin on
obstetric ultrasonography from The American College of Obstetricians and
Gynecologists 4 states that AFI is a more accurate and reproducible method
of determining abnormalities in amniotic fluid volume than are other
techniques. An AFI =5.0 cm, consistent with most ultrasonographic criteria
for oligohydramnios, has been used as an indication for delivery of infants
at or near term. This practice has been suggested by Rutherford et al 5 and
by Sarno et al,6 who noted a significantly higher risk of cesarean delivery
for fetal distress and low Apgar scores for those parturients with an AFI
=5.0 cm than for those with an AFI 5.0 cm. Since these initial
publications, other investigators have not consistently confirmed the
association of adverse peripartum outcomes with an AFI 

[ozmidwifery] Clinical assessment of amniotic fluid

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke




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Clinical Assessment of Amniotic  Fluid
[Articles]

MOORE, THOMAS R. MD
Department of Reproductive Medicine,  University of California San Diego
Correspondence: Thomas R. Moore,  MD, Mail Code 8433, 200 West Arbor Drive,
San Diego, CA 92118.

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  Abstract

  Clinical  Value of Amniotic Fluid Volume Assessment

  PREDICTION OF POOR PERINATAL  OUTCOME

  DETECTION  OF FETAL ANOMALIES

  IDENTIFICATION OF INTRAUTERINE  GROWTH RESTRICTION AND PLACENTAL
INSUFFICIENCY

  Factors Influencing  Amniotic Fluid Volume

  AMNIOTIC FLUID PRODUCTION

  AMNIOTIC  FLUID REMOVAL

  Gestational Age Influences on Amniotic Fluid Volume

  Techniques of Estimating Amniotic Fluid  Volume

  INTERSERVER  AND INTRAOBSERVER RELIABILITY

  TECHNICAL  ASPECTS OF PERFORMING THE AMNIOTIC FLUID INDEX

  Indications for and  Frequency of Amniotic Fluid Volume Assessment

  Summary

  References

Graphics

Fig.  1
Table  1
Table  2
Fig. 2
Table 3
Fig. 3

Abstract

Appreciation  of the importance of amniotic fluid volume as an indicator of
fetal status is a relatively  recent development.1 Before 1975, discussions
of amniotic fluid  volume in the obstetric literature were limited to
observations of the quantity of  fluid released after rupture of membranes.
The occurrence of thick meconium and fetal  distress in post dates
pregnancy, for example, was attributed vaguely to placental
insufficiency. More recently, progressive improvements in ultrasonographic
imaging  have taken the technology of fetal and amniotic fluid assessment
from the stage of  subjective impression to the present state in which
relatively sophisticated judgments  of fetal condition can be based on
reproducible measurements.

In  present practice, semiquantitative amniotic fluid volume assessment
during routine  ultrasound (US) examination and antepartum testing has
become the standard of care.  However, the complicated relationships imposed
by the placenta and complexly folded  fetus within an irregularly ovoid
uterus have impeded the development of a precise  method of calculating
amniotic fluid volume ultrasonographically. And although both  subjective
and semiquantitative methods of estimating amniotic volume are in use,  the
best technique remains controversial. In this article, the author reviews
the  relative precision of the various volume estimation techniques and
clinical situations  in which amniotic fluid volume assessment is helpful.

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Clinical  Value of Amniotic Fluid Volume Assessment

PREDICTION OF POOR PERINATAL  OUTCOME

Recognizing abnormal amniotic fluid volume before delivery may alert  the
clinician to situations of potentially high perinatal risk. Chamberlain et
al.2 observed a perinatal mortality rate of 4.12/1,000 in pregnancies  with
polyhydramnios compared with a rate of 1.97/1,000 when the amniotic fluid
was 
normal. The perinatal mortality rate was increased 13-fold more than normal
when  amniotic fluid volume was sonographically marginal, and increased
47-fold
(187.5/1,000)  if severe oligohydramnios was present.

Pregnancies complicated by extremes  of amniotic fluid volume also
experience increased maternal and neonatal morbidity.  During labor,
polyhydramnios is associated with abnormal fetal lie, operative delivery,
and abruptio placentae.3 Preterm delivery occurred in 11.1% in  patients
with polyhydramnios studied by Varma et al.4 compared  with 6.7% in controls
with normal fluid. Fetal distress, low Apgar scores, macrosomia,  and
intensive care nursery admission were significantly more frequent in the
polyhydramnios  group.

With oligohydramnios, meconium, fetal heart rate abnormalities, and
depressed Apgar scores are more frequent: neonatal (31.2%) and fetal (25.0%)
acidosis 
rates were doubled compared with controls;5 fetal distress requiring
operative intervention was tripled (64%) with oligohydramnios compared with
21% of 
normals (P = .005).6 Crowley et al.7  reported meconium staining in 29% and
an emergency cesarean section rate of 11% with  oligohydramnios in post-date
patients but only 2% in normals. Maternal complications  of oligohydramnios
include increased incidence of hypertension (22.1%), second trimester
bleeding (4.1%), and abruptio placentae (4.2%).8

DETECTION  OF FETAL ANOMALIES

Recognition of abnormal amniotic fluid volume may provide  clues to
congenital anomalies, which might otherwise be overlooked. The finding of
polyhydramnios may lead to detection of fetal gastrointestinal obstruction
(esophageal 
atresia, or thoracic masses compressing the esophagus such as diaphragmatic
hernia).4 Cardiac, intracranial, spinal, and ventral wall anomalies have
also been reported with excessive amniotic fluid.9 Oligohydramnios  is

[ozmidwifery] Isolalated oligohydramnios at Term

2006-07-12 Thread Lisa Gierke



January 2005 · Vol. 54, No. 1
 



Isolated oligohydramnios at term: Is induction indicated?
Lawrence Leeman, MD, MPH
University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM

David Almond, MD, MS
Community Health Clinic Ole, Napa, Calif


Practice recommendations

Isolated term oligohydramnios, as defined by an amniotic fluid index (AFI)
of less than 5 cm, has not been shown to be associated with poor maternal or
fetal outcomes. Management may be individualized based on factors such as
parity, cervical ripeness, and patient preference (SOR: B).

Maternal hydration with oral water has been shown to increase AFI in a few
hours, likely due to improved uteroplacental perfusion. This is a reasonable
alternative to immediate labor induction in women with isolated term
oligohydramnios (SOR: B).

An isolated finding of a so-called “border-line” AFI (5–8 cm) is not an
indication for labor induction (SOR: B).

 

Family physicians providing maternity care often face a scenario in which an
otherwise low-risk, term patient is incidentally noted to have a low
amniotic fluid index (AFI). Common reasons for obtaining an AFI in a woman
with a low-risk pregnancy include evaluation of decreased fetal movement,
spontaneous variable decelerations during monitoring to evaluate for labor,
or an ultrasound evaluation for fundal height measurements discordant with
gestational age. How should “isolated” oligohydramnios—an AFI 5 cm—be
interpreted, and should immediate induction be recommended for such
patients?

Oligohydramnios occurs in about 1% to 5% of pregnancies at term.1,2 Because
adverse outcomes occur in high-risk pregnancies complicated by low amniotic
fluid volume, oligohydramnios commonly prompts labor induction.1,3,4 At one
university center, oligohydramnios is now the leading indication for labor
induction.5 Many centers may even induce labor when the AFI is between 5 cm
and 8 cm, the so-called borderline AFI.3

Labor induction increases the use of cesarean delivery, particularly for the
primiparous woman with an unripe cervix.6 Recent studies questioning the
safety of labor induction in women who have had a cesarean may increase the
number of elective repeat cesarean procedures when delivery is believed
indicated for oligohydramnios.7 (See Underlying causes of oligohydramnios.)



Underlying causes of oligohydramnios

By the second trimester, amniotic fluid is being produced primarily through
fetal urine production and is primarily resorbed through fetal swallowing.
Significant amounts of amniotic fluid are also produced and resorbed by the
fetal lung and directly resorbed from the amniotic cavity by the
placenta.8,9 Amniotic fluid volume is affected by the status of maternal
hydration and maternal plasma osmolality.10-13

Acute oligohydramnios may occur from ruptured membranes, usually diagnosed
by clinical signs and vaginal fluid with altered pH and a ferning pattern on
microscopic exam.

Chronic oligohydramnios arises from prerenal, renal, and postrenal causes.
The latter 2 groups reflect fetal kidney and urogenital abnormalities, which
directly decrease fetal amniotic fluid production. Uteroplacental
insufficiency is the most common cause of prerenal oligohydramnios, and the
decreased amniotic fluid is a direct result of decreased fetal renal
perfusion.14 Uteroplacental insufficiency may result in intrauterine growth
restriction as the fetus shunts blood away from the growing torso and limbs
and to vital organs such as the brain. Preeclampsia and postdate pregnancies
both involve pathologic changes in the placenta that may result in
uteroplacental insufficiency and oligohydramnios.

 

  Oligohydramnios is difficult to assess
True oligohydramnios can be difficult to confirm due to the questionable
accuracy of amniotic fluid measurement by ultrasound. There is controversy,
for example, about whether (and how) to include pockets of amniotic fluid
containing umbilical cord.15 The AFI was introduced in 19872 to replace the
2 cm “pocket technique” of fluid assessment, and studies continue to
question to what extent the AFI reflects actual amniotic fluid volume.

AFI measurements may vary with the amount of pressure applied to the abdomen
and with fetal position or movement.16

Serial measurements taken by the same ultrasound operator have been shown to
differ from the true volume by 1 cm, or 10.8%; serial measurements taken by
multiple operators have differed by as much as 2 cm, or 15.4%.17,18

O’Reilly-Green compared the diagnosis of oligohydramnios in 449 post-term
patients with actual amniotic fluid volume measured at rupture of
membranes.19 They found a positive predictive value of 50% for
oligohydramnios at an AFI of 5 cm as the lower limit of normal. A study of
144 third trimester patients using the dye-dilution technique found that, to
achieve 95% confidence for ruling out oligohydramnios, a cutoff AFI of 30 cm
would need to be used, a value consistent with polyhydramnios.20

  What is the association between 

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1999 December181(6): pp1473-1478; Amer J Of Obs  Gyn. 




Perinatal outcome and amniotic fluid index in the antepartum and intrapartum
periods: A meta-analysis [General Obstetrics And Gynecology: Obstetrics]
Chauhan, Suneet P. MDa; Sanderson, Maureen PhDb; Hendrix, Nancy W. MDa;
Magann, Everett F. MDc; Devoe, Lawrence D. MDd

Spartanburg and Columbia, South Carolina, Jackson, Mississippi, and Augusta,
Georgia From the Spartanburg Regional Medical Center,a the Department of
Epidemiology and Biostatistics, University of South Carolina,b the
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Mississippi,c and the
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Medical College of Georgia.d
Received for publication October 2, 1998; revised January 19, 1999; accepted
July 29, 1999. Reprint requests: Suneet P. Chauhan, MD, Division of
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, Regional Women's Health Care, 853 North Church St,
Suite 403, Spartanburg, SC 29303. Abstract
OBJECTIVE: Our purpose was to perform a meta-analysis of studies on the
risks of cesarean delivery for fetal distress, 5-minute Apgar score 7, and
umbilical arterial pH 7.00 in patients with antepartum or intrapartum
amniotic fluid index 5.0 or 5.0 cm.

STUDY DESIGN: Using a MEDLINE search, we reviewed all studies published
between 1987 and 1997 that correlated antepartum or intrapartum amniotic
fluid index with adverse peripartum outcomes. The inclusion criteria were
studies in English that associated at least one of the selected adverse
outcomes with an amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm versus 5.0 cm.
Contingency tables were constructed for each study, and relative risks and
standard errors of their logs were calculated. Fixed-effects pooled relative
risks were calculated for groups of studies that were homogeneous, whereas
random-effects pooled relative risks were calculated for significantly
heterogeneous groups of studies.

RESULTS: Eighteen reports describing 10,551 patients met our inclusion
criteria. An antepartum amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm, in comparison with
5.0 cm, is associated with an increased risk of cesarean delivery for 
fetal
distress (pooled relative risk, 2.2; 95% confidence interval, 1.5-3.4) and
an Apgar score of 7 at 5 minutes (pooled relative risk, 5.2; 95% confidence
interval, 2.4-11.3). An intrapartum amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm is also
associated with an increased risk of cesarean delivery for fetal distress
(pooled relative risk, 1.7; 95% confidence interval, 1.1-2.6) and an Apgar
score 7 at 5 minutes (pooled relative risk, 1.8; 95% confidence interval,
1.2-2.7). A poor correlation between the amniotic fluid index and neonatal
acidosis was noted in the only study that examined this end point. More than
23,000 patients are necessary to demonstrate that the incidence of umbilical
arterial pH 7.00 is 1.5 times higher among those with oligohydramnios in
labor than among those with adequate amniotic fluid index ([alpha] = 0.05;
[beta] = 0.2)

CONCLUSIONS: An antepartum or intrapartum amniotic fluid index of =5.0 cm
is associated with a significantly increased risk of cesarean delivery for
fetal distress and a low Apgar score at 5 minutes. There are few reports
linking amniotic fluid index and neonatal acidosis, the only objective
assessment of fetal well-being. A multicenter study with sufficient power
should be undertaken to demonstrate that a low amniotic fluid index is
associated with an umbilical arterial pH 7.00.






Ultrasonographic assessment of amniotic fluid is used frequently to identify
fetuses at risk of having adverse outcomes as suggested by the finding of
abnormal fluid volumes. Hydramnios is associated with anomalies or
aneuploidy,1 whereas oligohydramnios is linked with pulmonary hypoplasia,
postural deformity, fetal distress, and perinatal morbidity and death.2 In
1987 Phelan et al 3 described the amniotic fluid index (AFI) as the
summation of the largest vertical pocket in 4 quadrants. This technique of
assessing amniotic fluid volume has become increasingly popular in obstetric
practice. A MEDLINE search for reports published from 1987 to 1997 includes
125 publications with AFI as the subject. A recent Technical Bulletin on
obstetric ultrasonography from The American College of Obstetricians and
Gynecologists 4 states that AFI is a more accurate and reproducible method
of determining abnormalities in amniotic fluid volume than are other
techniques. An AFI =5.0 cm, consistent with most ultrasonographic criteria
for oligohydramnios, has been used as an indication for delivery of infants
at or near term. This practice has been suggested by Rutherford et al 5 and
by Sarno et al,6 who noted a significantly higher risk of cesarean delivery
for fetal distress and low Apgar scores for those parturients with an AFI
=5.0 cm than for those with an AFI 5.0 cm. Since these initial
publications, other investigators