RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage
Wouldn't a truly physiological third stage involve waiting till the placenta is birthed before clamping/cutting the cord? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:27 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage Sue, You really need to decide whether your patient wishes for an active or a physiological third stage. It can be dangerous to try and do a half-half sort of third stage. If you plan a physiological third stage then you need to: 1. Dont clamp or cut the cord until it stops pulsating. 2. Put the baby to the breast as soon as possible, this will stimulate oxytocin release which works better than 10units Syntocinon ever does! 3. Allow the placenta time to separate without pulling on the cord. 4. If the woman is upright gravity will help, sitting on the toilet usually works well. 5. Wait until the woman feels some afterbirth pains, then suggest she gives a little push 6. Always observe for excessive bleeding but dont confuse that initial gush which indicates the placenta is separating with excesive blood loss. 7. Be patient, have faith in the normal process! All the best, Leanne. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:00:25 +1100 Hi, I'm interested if there is any research on delaying synto for say up to 5 minutes in 'active 3rd stage'. Have been doing actively managed third stage throughout my clinical placements as a student (nearly finished!!) with some practitioners cutting the cord immediately, and most at about 10 - 20 seconds. I've just prepared a powerpoint presentation on delayed cord clamping but know I will get into a discussion around the seeming conflict between active 3rd stage and delaying the clamping. Obviously if you don't want the effects of synto's action - strong uterine contraction with excess blood being pumped into bub, then you need to delay the entire process of actively managed 3rd stage until the cord is clamped. Does anyone practice delaying the synto injection for those first few minutes? Any evidence of harm in doing this? Thanks, Sue -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Nov06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Life Matters Newsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Life Matters Preview - Wednesday 15th November 2006 Life Matters Wednesday November 15th 2006 with Richard Aedy * The Patient Status of Newborns - Most newborn babies have no official identity in hospital. They're not deemed patients in their own right unless they are sick enough to be moved to special nursery care. A review of legislation is now underway with the goal of keeping more mothers and babies together. * Australia / Canada Welfare Research - A comparison of how young people in care are faring in the two countries. * Meet Mr Calm - Paul Wilson has been described as the guru of calm. He joins Life Matters to share his tips on making meditation a part of daily life.The good news is you only need 13 minutes a day! * Listener feedback letters and calls Listen again to today's show - Cashing in personal leave, A new drug funding model , Part 2 of the BBC's Call That Justice? and Meet our Listener who went from being a fat slob to a marathon man! For more information on podcasting, click here: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/default.htm .. DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO'D LOVE LIFE MATTERS AS MUCH AS YOU? THEN FORWARD THIS EMAIL AND LET THEM KNOW! How to tune in, wherever you are in Australia: http://abc.net.au/rn/freq/map.htm . SUBSCRIBE / UNSUBSCRIBE If you wish to start/stop receiving these emails go to http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/subscribe.htm . VISIT OUR WEB PAGE http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters for summaries, links, publication details AND TO HEAR RECENT PROGRAMS. .. EMAIL US Visit our website and email us from there. (Please note, our old email address no longer works. You need to contact us via the web.) - We do read and value all mail, but cannot necessarily reply to it all. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage
Just going from a very faded memory from my Mid education, but wasnt it the Hinchinbrook trial that outlined the dangers of mixing the two practices? I know it was seen as a flawed and dated trial, with dubious parameters of normal and of what physiological actually meant, but if someone can find the paper it might lead to other references Tania -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/533 - Release Date: 13/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/533 - Release Date: 13/11/2006
[ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues.Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath
RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
As a woman planning for a homebirth, I just went to my GP and got a prescription from her for a dose of syntometrine. I still have to go to the pharmacy to get it filled- hope they are as easy to deal with as my GP is J I do know my midwife has a GP who will write scripts for her, yet my GP is supportive of HB and I was happy to approach her for it. From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of cath nolan Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:13 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues.Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath
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Re: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby scales
Hi Sonia, Did you make the sling or purchase it from some one? Cath - Original Message - From: Sonja Barry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby scales Thanks everyone for your thoughts and assistance in getting some baby scales. I now have a beautiful digital set with a lovely purple sling to hang the babies in. Sonja - Original Message - From: nunyara To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby scales Hi Sonja, My husband owns Wedderburn scales in Bundaberg. He supplies baby scales to the hospitals and chemists up here. Would you like me to get you a price? He would just send them to you. It is not a problem, he can usually have them sent within the week. You would pay be cheque on invoice or direct deposit into the bank. Jassy From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Christine HollidaySent: Monday, 30 October 2006 8:14 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby scales A fishing shop could be a good start as they have some good scales and are much cheaper than the medical products scales; you may need to make a sling to go with them. Christine -Original Message-From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Sonja BarrySent: 30 October 2006 07:00To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby scales Wondering if anyone knows where I would be able to purchase hanging baby scales. Thanks Sonja
RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
This is part of the big problem with the way in which independent midwives are forced to work here in Australia isnt it? An IPM who chooses not to carry synto or erg would be crucified in the event of a PPH, but the reality is that there are few ways to legally acquire it, and even fewer ways to legally administer it. Sadly we have a long way to go in this battle, and though it seems like a miniscule thing, I think its a big deal that many midwives simply have no way of getting the drugs they need to carry, and equally no way to be able to give them when the are needed. I dont know of one single Dr in SA who would write a standing order for synto knowing that the woman receiving it was choosing to birth at home. And why should women have to broach the subject with (mostly) disrespectful and ignorant GPs. Isis, you are lucky! Just my thoughts Tania From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Isis Caple Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:58 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc As a woman planning for a homebirth, I just went to my GP and got a prescription from her for a dose of syntometrine. I still have to go to the pharmacy to get it filled- hope they are as easy to deal with as my GP is J I do know my midwife has a GP who will write scripts for her, yet my GP is supportive of HB and I was happy to approach her for it. From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of cath nolan Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:13 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues.Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/533 - Release Date: 13/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/533 - Release Date: 13/11/2006
[ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group.
Hello, I am contacting you to let you know that I am forming a Birth after C-Section information and support group. The idea behind this group is to give women (and their partners if they would like to) an opportunity to speak to others that are interested or experienced in VBAC (Vaginal birth after 1 or more C-Sections) and the options available. We will explore the facts, the myths, the fears and the emotions that surround this decision and it will be a supportive place for people to search for answers. We welcome those that are already pregnant and those who are considering their options for a planned pregnancy or anywhere in-between. This group will run once per month unless the group would like to meet fortnightly instead. In order to run in the best interests of all we would prefer that participants give themselves a couple of child free hours to focus on themselves, however we welcome babies. The first gathering will be on Thursday the 23rd of November at 7:30pm. Location - Shop 6/16 Brampton Street, Cranbrook in the Kids in Harmony Centre. RSVP Philippa Scott 47734075 or 0407648349 by the 22nd of November (the meeting will only go ahead if you let me know youre coming) Cost - $10 per person / $15 per couple, concession $8 per person / $12 per couple. Please feel free to pass this invitation along to anyone you think it may benefit. As this is just kicking off your feedback on times and dates is also appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville This is for The Townsville and Thuringowa region in Queensland, Australia. Some who receive this email will do so because it may be a resource they can direct people to. Thank you.
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
you can purchase syntocinon at www.livingstone.com.auAndrea QOn 14/11/2006, at 9:13 PM, cath nolan wrote:I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre Justine, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you're saying. What "greater good" are women losing out to? How long will it last? When will births be reinstated? Who is the driving force behind denying women their intended place and mode of birth and what are their motives? Is MC taking up the cause to fight for the consumers to have access to what they were promised? TIA, J - Original Message - From: Justine Caines To: OzMid List Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre Dear AllRyde Midwifery Group Practice is not closing. For the immediate future all women booked on the RMGP will need to birth at RNS.I believe Ryde Hospital is having some issues and there is a view to remove the RMGP from greater Hosp issues (as the MGP is going beautifully) simply to avoid the MGP being caught up in any political who ha (like happened with Camden -and believe me I know because it was our very effective rally where we stole all of Bob Carrs thunder that got things happening in Camden). The thing with Camden/Campbelltown is when issues are levelled at a Hosp (even unrelated) it makes it very hard to get our work going. This is probably one of the reasons why the Camden model is still birthing in Campbelltown (mad, wrong, etc etc) but a political imperative (according to those with the power).Ryde is too important to the greater maternity reform agenda too lose in unrelated hospital issues. Whilst I am disappointed for the women who are birthing now and will be affected I think sometimes we have to weigh up issues for the greater good.At the same time we need to support the women in the here and now (this is something I have always arued for when bureacrats talk softly softly on reform)There are some options. If any woman wants to stand their ground let us know and we can support her. Otherwise I think we really need to insist that these women have the same facilities they could in Ryde ie access to water etc etc. Obviously they will still have their known midwife.Please let us know if we can assist in advocating for these women as MC was part of the establishment of the Ryde service and we have all the relevant contacts.In solidarityJustine
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group.
How excellent, Philippa! Not enough to do with your time? ; ) J - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: Philippa Scott Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:35 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group. Hello, I am contacting you to let you know that I am forming a Birth after C-Section information and support group. The idea behind this group is to give women (and their partners if they would like to) an opportunity to speak to others that are interested or experienced in VBAC (Vaginal birth after 1 or more C-Sections) and the options available. We will explore the facts, the myths, the fears and the emotions that surround this decision and it will be a supportive place for people to search for answers. We welcome those that are already pregnant and those who are considering their options for a planned pregnancy or anywhere in-between. This group will run once per month unless the group would like to meet fortnightly instead. In order to run in the best interests of all we would prefer that participants give themselves a couple of child free hours to focus on themselves, however we welcome babies. The first gathering will be on Thursday the 23rd of November at 7:30pm. Location - Shop 6/16 Brampton Street, Cranbrook in the Kids in Harmony Centre. RSVP Philippa Scott 47734075 or 0407648349 by the 22nd of November (the meeting will only go ahead if you let me know youre coming) Cost - $10 per person / $15 per couple, concession $8 per person / $12 per couple. Please feel free to pass this invitation along to anyone you think it may benefit. As this is just kicking off your feedback on times and dates is also appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards Philippa ScottBirth Buddies - DoulaAssisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour.President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville This is for The Townsville and Thuringowa region in Queensland, Australia. Some who receive this email will do so because it may be a resource they can direct people to. Thank you.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby scales
Sonja wroteI now have a beautiful digital set with a lovely purple sling to hang the babies in. Please tell us more. Like Where did you get them, how much do they cost, to what weight do they measure, what brand are they? Thanks, MM
RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Andrea, it is my understanding that one still has to have a Drs order (e.g. prescription) before a midwife can actually give the drug. Prior to the CMP being under the umbrella of the State Health Dept, WA metro midwives had to get the woman to get a script from their doctor for synto, Vit K and xylocine 1% for suturing. There are few doctors who will actually do this. Strange, they say you might bleed to death at home but wont give any help in preventing this scenario. Good luck, MM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 2:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc you can purchase syntocinon at www.livingstone.com.au Andrea Q On 14/11/2006, at 9:13 PM, cath nolan wrote: I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath Had a client recently who I sent to her GP for a script for synt. She got the script, went to the chemist to fill it found it was going to cost her around $80 to get it - they only sold it in the boxes of five vials. I ended up asking around my MIPP friends managed to find some that way (dint need it anyway so its still in my fridge). If you give me your postal address Im happy to post some to you - my understanding is that its ok to keep it out of the fridge for a time. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Justine, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you're saying. What greater good are women losing out to? How long will it last? When will births be reinstated? Who is the driving force behind denying women their intended place and mode of birth and what are their motives? Is MC taking up the cause to fight for the consumers to have access to what they were promised? TIA, J I'm interested to hear the answers to these questions to Janet. Thanks Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Dear all I might be able to shed a bit of light on Justine's comments. One of the obstacles we had in getting Ryde Midwifery Group Practice up and running was an assurance to the Area health service that there would always be someone (obstetric) capable of doing an emergency CS if necessary at the Ryde hospital - in case of a dire emergency. Needless to say this has never been called upon - but with the troubles of the Ryde General Hospital - the RMGP is drawn into it all unwittingly - because the RMGP can no longer assure the area heath service that an obstetrician can provide that back up at Ryde. Therefore this is really a timely opportunity for the RMGP to reframe the service they are providing and have it ratified by the Area health service - without the nonsense clause that existed in the first proposal. Belmont for example does not have this clause - and I think Ryde midwifery group practice only had it because we had to compromise a on a few fairly benign (we thought at the time) caveats in order to get started. Now we are several years down the track and looking OK - i dont think it will be such a hurdle.. so I think Justine is correct is asserting that it will be only a blip in the process - but a process never the less - and for those of you getting these things up and running - there are so many battles to be fought -i guess we have to look at this as just another not insurmountable (but tiresome) hurdle. I do think it would be incredibly helpful if any consumers concerned could take it up with as many people as possible - ie their local member of parliament, the CEO of the Area health Service, the head of Obstetrics at Northern Sydney Health, the NSW Health department , the Australian College of Midwives - anybody who needs to know this isn't good enough best wishes Sally t. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justine, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you're saying. What "greater good" are women losing out to? How long will it last? When will births be reinstated? Who is the driving force behind denying women their intended place and mode of birth and what are their motives? Is MC taking up the cause to fight for the consumers to have access to what they were promised? TIA, J I'm interested to hear the answers to these questions to Janet. Thanks Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Delaying synto with active 3rd stage
Hi Andrea, I am not aware of the practice you have mentioned in America. Have you any references for this? Any idea what occurs if the placenta takes longer to arrive than the 20 minutes or so?? Sue Hello Sue, The question of third stage management has a cultural aspect as well. In the US, as far as I know, the syntometrine is not given until after the placenta arrives. It is then given to prevent excessive bleeding. Interesting to speculate on how this major difference developed, and why it is acceptable to wait the 20 or so minutes for the placenta to come physiologically in the US when it is unacceptable in the UK/Australia. Another one of those examples of how habit/routine becomes standard practice and is not questioned. Regards, Andrea At 11:00 AM 14/11/2006, you wrote: Hi, I'm interested if there is any research on delaying synto for say up to 5 minutes in 'active 3rd stage'. Have been doing actively managed third stage throughout my clinical placements as a student (nearly finished!!) with some practitioners cutting the cord immediately, and most at about 10 - 20 seconds. I've just prepared a powerpoint presentation on delayed cord clamping but know I will get into a discussion around the seeming conflict between active 3rd stage and delaying the clamping. Obviously if you don't want the effects of synto's action - strong uterine contraction with excess blood being pumped into bub, then you need to delay the entire process of actively managed 3rd stage until the cord is clamped. Does anyone practice delaying the synto injection for those first few minutes? Any evidence of harm in doing this? Thanks, Sue -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] BMJ Abstract on Cord Clamping
Hi Would it be possible that yu could send me the PDF full paper? Many thanks Elaine LJG wrote: I have a PDF of the full paper if anyone is interested..pm me Lisa Shortcut to: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7575/0-b Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. -- Elaine Jefford Senior Lecturer - Nursing School of Health Sciences Division of Health, Design and Science University of Canberra ACT 2601 Phone: + 61 (0) 2 6201 5380 Fax: + 61 (0) 2 6201 5128 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australian Government Higher Education Registered Provider (CRICOS): #00212K NOTICE DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential or copyright material and are for the attention of the addressee only. If you have received this email in error please notify us by email reply and delete it from your system. The University of Canberra accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Thanks Andrea for the Livingstone tip, I have bought things off there before but wasn't aware that I could get synt. Cath - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc you can purchase syntocinon at www.livingstone.com.au Andrea Q On 14/11/2006, at 9:13 PM, cath nolan wrote: I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues.Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
I know a couple of MPs but this stuff is rather vague I don't know exactly how to brief them. Anything particularly clear to share with them would be appreciated! : ) J - Original Message - From: sally tracy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre Dear allI might be able to shed a bit of light on Justine's comments. One of the obstacles we had in getting Ryde Midwifery Group Practice up and running was an assurance to the Area health service that there would always be someone (obstetric) capable of doing an emergency CS if necessary at the Ryde hospital - in case of a dire emergency. Needless to say this has never been called upon - but with the troubles of the Ryde General Hospital - the RMGP is drawn into it all unwittingly - because the RMGP can no longer assure the area heath service that an obstetrician can provide that back up at Ryde.Therefore this is really a timely opportunity for the RMGP to reframe the service they are providing and have it ratified by the Area health service - without the nonsense clause that existed in the first proposal. Belmont for example does not have this clause - and I think Ryde midwifery group practice only had it because we had to compromise a on a few fairly benign (we thought at the time) caveats in order to get started. Now we are several years down the track and looking OK - i dont think it will be such a hurdle..so I think Justine is correct is asserting that it will be only a blip in the process - but a process never the less - and for those of you getting these things up and running - there are so many battles to be fought -i guess we have to look at this as just another not insurmountable (but tiresome) hurdle. I do think it would be incredibly helpful if any consumers concerned could take it up with as many people as possible - ie their local member of parliament, the CEO of the Area health Service, the head of Obstetrics at Northern Sydney Health, the NSW Health department , the Australian College of Midwives - anybody who needs to know this isn't good enough best wishesSally t.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justine, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you're saying. What "greater good" are women losing out to? How long will it last? When will births be reinstated? Who is the driving force behind denying women their intended place and mode of birth and what are their motives? Is MC taking up the cause to fight for the consumers to have access to what they were promised? TIA, J I'm interested to hear the answers to these questions to Janet. Thanks Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre Dear Abby, Janet and all I hope Sally Tracy answered your questions. I clearly said in my previous message that MC would advocate on behalf of any woman caught up in this. We will support women to achieve the birth they want. I am also happy to assist women in writing letters/ making representations to the AHS, local MPs etc. This is core MC business and the area I am most skilled in. If you come across women you can refer them to me or Carol Chapman, NSW President Carol Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0422107045 I will also speak to the local Ryde consumer group to let them know I am available to assist. Justine Caines National President Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 625 SCONE NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65453612 Fax: (02)65482902 Mob: 0408 210273 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.maternitycoalition.org.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group.
Good luck with this support group Philippa. I do think there is a need for this in Townsville. Hope you are keeping well. regards Linda Trewern - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: Philippa Scott Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group. Hello, I am contacting you to let you know that I am forming a Birth after C-Section information and support group. The idea behind this group is to give women (and their partners if they would like to) an opportunity to speak to others that are interested or experienced in VBAC (Vaginal birth after 1 or more C-Sections) and the options available. We will explore the facts, the myths, the fears and the emotions that surround this decision and it will be a supportive place for people to search for answers. We welcome those that are already pregnant and those who are considering their options for a planned pregnancy or anywhere in-between. This group will run once per month unless the group would like to meet fortnightly instead. In order to run in the best interests of all we would prefer that participants give themselves a couple of child free hours to focus on themselves, however we welcome babies. The first gathering will be on Thursday the 23rd of November at 7:30pm. Location - Shop 6/16 Brampton Street, Cranbrook in the Kids in Harmony Centre. RSVP Philippa Scott 47734075 or 0407648349 by the 22nd of November (the meeting will only go ahead if you let me know youre coming) Cost - $10 per person / $15 per couple, concession $8 per person / $12 per couple. Please feel free to pass this invitation along to anyone you think it may benefit. As this is just kicking off your feedback on times and dates is also appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards Philippa ScottBirth Buddies - DoulaAssisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour.President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville This is for The Townsville and Thuringowa region in Queensland, Australia. Some who receive this email will do so because it may be a resource they can direct people to. Thank you.
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Check the RNS/ Ryde newsletter online, has a small section in it. Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre I know a couple of MPs but this stuff is rather vague I don't know exactly how to brief them. Anything particularly clear to share with them would be appreciated! : ) J - Original Message - From: sally tracy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre Dear allI might be able to shed a bit of light on Justine's comments. One of the obstacles we had in getting Ryde Midwifery Group Practice up and running was an assurance to the Area health service that there would always be someone (obstetric) capable of doing an emergency CS if necessary at the Ryde hospital - in case of a dire emergency. Needless to say this has never been called upon - but with the troubles of the Ryde General Hospital - the RMGP is drawn into it all unwittingly - because the RMGP can no longer assure the area heath service that an obstetrician can provide that back up at Ryde.Therefore this is really a timely opportunity for the RMGP to reframe the service they are providing and have it ratified by the Area health service - without the nonsense clause that existed in the first proposal. Belmont for example does not have this clause - and I think Ryde midwifery group practice only had it because we had to compromise a on a few fairly benign (we thought at the time) caveats in order to get started. Now we are several years down the track and looking OK - i dont think it will be such a hurdle..so I think Justine is correct is asserting that it will be only a blip in the process - but a process never the less - and for those of you getting these things up and running - there are so many battles to be fought -i guess we have to look at this as just another not insurmountable (but tiresome) hurdle. I do think it would be incredibly helpful if any consumers concerned could take it up with as many people as possible - ie their local member of parliament, the CEO of the Area health Service, the head of Obstetrics at Northern Sydney Health, the NSW Health department , the Australian College of Midwives - anybody who needs to know this isn't good enough best wishesSally t.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justine, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you're saying. What "greater good" are women losing out to? How long will it last? When will births be reinstated? Who is the driving force behind denying women their intended place and mode of birth and what are their motives? Is MC taking up the cause to fight for the consumers to have access to what they were promised? TIA, J I'm interested to hear the answers to these questions to Janet. Thanks Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
DATE Wednesday 8 November 2006 Announcing temporary changes to Maternity Services at Ryde Hospital Ry The Ryde Midwifery Group Practice based at Ryde Hospital has successfully offered a low tech, low intervention approach to pregnancy, labour and delivery to suitable women. Unfortunately it has not proven possible to recruit to Ryde Hospital a Career Medical Officer (CMO) with the appropriate skills to assist midwives with the resuscitation of a newborn baby if required. Therefore, effective immediately, all women booked to birth at Ryde will birth instead at Royal North Shore Hospital, in the care of their attending midwife. This is a temporary measure and will be reversed once a suitably skilled CMO is appointed. Please note: · The Ryde Midwifery Group Practice is NOT closing · NSCCH is actively recruiting a career medical officer with suitable skills · Ryde midwives will go to RNSH with Ryde mothers · Mothers will experience exactly the same low intervention style of birthing they would have received at Ryde · All booked in mothers have been informed of this temporary arrangement · Although obstetric emergencies are rare at Ryde, its our responsibility to be prepared, explained Dr Michael Nicholl, Clinical Director of Womens, Childrens and Family Health, North Shore Ryde Health Service. I regret that this short-term arrangement is necessary but labour and delivery can be unpredictable even in low risk situations. Its important to have medical expertise available if required. The safety of mothers and babies is our priority. INFORMATION FOR FAMILIES: Telephone: Media contact: Pat McDermott NSCCH Corporate Communications 9926 6733 / 0413 025 741
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group.
Something like that Janet!! This thing we are called to do is very insistent isnt it? Oh well If you love it is not a burden. I would hate to spend this much time doing something I did not enjoy though!! Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 7:21 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group. How excellent, Philippa! Not enough to do with your time? ; ) J - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: Philippa Scott Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:35 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group. Hello, I am contacting you to let you know that I am forming a Birth after C-Section information and support group. The idea behind this group is to give women (and their partners if they would like to) an opportunity to speak to others that are interested or experienced in VBAC (Vaginal birth after 1 or more C-Sections) and the options available. We will explore the facts, the myths, the fears and the emotions that surround this decision and it will be a supportive place for people to search for answers. We welcome those that are already pregnant and those who are considering their options for a planned pregnancy or anywhere in-between. This group will run once per month unless the group would like to meet fortnightly instead. In order to run in the best interests of all we would prefer that participants give themselves a couple of child free hours to focus on themselves, however we welcome babies. The first gathering will be on Thursday the 23rd of November at 7:30pm. Location - Shop 6/16 Brampton Street, Cranbrook in the Kids in Harmony Centre. RSVP Philippa Scott 47734075 or 0407648349 by the 22nd of November (the meeting will only go ahead if you let me know youre coming) Cost - $10 per person / $15 per couple, concession $8 per person / $12 per couple. Please feel free to pass this invitation along to anyone you think it may benefit. As this is just kicking off your feedback on times and dates is also appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville This is for The Townsville and Thuringowa region in Queensland, Australia. Some who receive this email will do so because it may be a resource they can direct people to. Thank you.
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Hi Cath, I give the women a letter for the doctor. We've ( the woman and I) have already discussed which tests she would like/ wouldn't like to have. The doctor is then given the letter with an outline of what the woman needs. This can be basic bloods, a script for vitamin k, a script for synto, a letter for O2 hire, ultrasound forms etc. On costing, it a hard one. I found when I first started out, it was hard to charge, and it was a 'self worth' issue. A few REALLY long births soon changes that!! In Sydney, most independent midwives charge between $3500 -$4500. This will also change for repeat clients, primips vs multips, distance to be travelled etc. Hope this helps. Robyn Dempsey - Original Message - From: cath nolan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:13 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues.Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Yes, the synto is about $100 a box. So what I do, is buy/pay for one box, which lasts for the next women ( does that make sense?), I only use Synto about once a year! ( and then there are the years you need it 3 times in a row!) Robyn D - Original Message - From: Jennifairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath Had a client recently who I sent to her GP for a script for synt. She got the script, went to the chemist to fill it found it was going to cost her around $80 to get it - they only sold it in the boxes of five vials. I ended up asking around my MIPP friends managed to find some that way (dint need it anyway so its still in my fridge). If you give me your postal address Im happy to post some to you - my understanding is that its ok to keep it out of the fridge for a time. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Are there really MWs who can't resus??? Sounds very unlikely to me! What's the "greater good", Justine? I'm more confused than ever. J - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre DATE Wednesday 8 November 2006 Announcing temporary changes to Maternity Services at Ryde Hospital Ry The Ryde Midwifery Group Practice based at Ryde Hospital has successfully offered a low tech, low intervention approach to pregnancy, labour and delivery to suitable women. Unfortunately it has not proven possible to recruit to Ryde Hospital a Career Medical Officer (CMO) with the appropriate skills to assist midwives with the resuscitation of a newborn baby if required. Therefore, effective immediately, all women booked to birth at Ryde will birth instead at Royal North Shore Hospital, in the care of their attending midwife. This is a temporary measure and will be reversed once a suitably skilled CMO is appointed. Please note: · The Ryde Midwifery Group Practice is NOT closing · NSCCH is actively recruiting a career medical officer with suitable skills · Ryde midwives will go to RNSH with Ryde mothers · Mothers will experience exactly the same low intervention style of birthing they would have received at Ryde · All booked in mothers have been informed of this temporary arrangement · Although obstetric emergencies are rare at Ryde, its our responsibility to be prepared, explained Dr Michael Nicholl, Clinical Director of Womens, Childrens and Family Health, North Shore Ryde Health Service. I regret that this short-term arrangement is necessary but labour and delivery can be unpredictable even in low risk situations. Its important to have medical expertise available if required. The safety of mothers and babies is our priority. INFORMATION FOR FAMILIES: Telephone: Media contact: Pat McDermott NSCCH Corporate Communications 9926 6733 / 0413 025 741
Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
I have a couple of questions about this situation in regards to the media statement ~ Unfortunately it has not proven possible to recruit to Ryde Hospital a Career Medical Officer (CMO) with the appropriate skills to assist midwives with the resuscitation of a newborn baby if required. It was my understanding that midwives have all the skills necessary to assist resus of a baby, am I mistaken? Therefore, effective immediately, all women booked to birth at Ryde will birth instead at Royal North Shore Hospital, in the care of their attending midwife. I just wanted to comment here that I find it infuriating that the assumption is made that 'all women booked to birth at Ryde will instead birth at RNSH'. What about what the women want, they weren't even given a choice! I regret that this short-term arrangement is necessary but labour and delivery can be unpredictable even in low risk situations. It's important to have medical expertise available if required. The safety of mothers and babies is our priority. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't all midwives have the 'medical expertise' required?? I know I'm preaching to the converted, but Obs must just wonder how on earth our human race has survived without their 'expertise'. Sorry, but I think this is bullshit! Surely it hasn't all of a sudden just happened. I mean, how long has this been known for? Shouldn't the women booked in have been informed that this could be a possibility and given the opportunity to change to another birth centre? This temporary situation is affecting womens lives and it's wrong. They have had their right to a choice denied! Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Thanks Justine. I will pass on your details to my sister. I'm not sure if she will contact you though, she is completely shattered. Her last birth was horribly traumatic in a hospital as was the aftermath. She is freaked out but doesn't feel like she has the strength to fight it. Love Abby Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Abby, Janet and all I hope Sally Tracy answered your questions. I clearly said in my previous message that MC would advocate on behalf of any woman caught up¹ in this. We will support women to achieve the birth they want. I am also happy to assist women in writing letters/ making representations to the AHS, local MP¹s etc. This is core MC business and the area I am most skilled in. If you come across women you can refer them to me or Carol Chapman, NSW President Carol Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0422107045 I will also speak to the local Ryde consumer group to let them know I am available to assist. Justine Caines National President Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 625 SCONE NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65453612 Fax: (02)65482902 Mob: 0408 210273 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.maternitycoalition.org.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Hi Cath, I do a similar thing to others on the list, ask the OB I work with for a script for any drugs needed ie synt, ergo, konak, xylocaine, maxalon, anti-D, Hep B Vax etc. Client gets script filled I buy them off her if I don't have a cache myself. I use these things so rarely that 1 script per year is enough. He will also fill out a medication chart if I ask him so I am giving a drug with an order if needed. All nicely legal. I have all pre-signed path ultrasound forms from the same OB use them at my discretion. Rare. I'd usually phone him get the OK out of courtesy before using them as he is so supportive I feel it is an important part of collaborative care. Costs for HB down this way : $1600 to $2500 approx for the entire package. With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Robyn Dempsey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc Hi Cath, I give the women a letter for the doctor. We've ( the woman and I) have already discussed which tests she would like/ wouldn't like to have. The doctor is then given the letter with an outline of what the woman needs. This can be basic bloods, a script for vitamin k, a script for synto, a letter for O2 hire, ultrasound forms etc. On costing, it a hard one. I found when I first started out, it was hard to charge, and it was a 'self worth' issue. A few REALLY long births soon changes that!! In Sydney, most independent midwives charge between $3500 -$4500. This will also change for repeat clients, primips vs multips, distance to be travelled etc. Hope this helps. Robyn Dempsey - Original Message - From: cath nolan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:13 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
misoprostal isn't licenced here is Australia. I wouldn't be prescribing it if I were a GP. When I was Working at a private Hospital the Obs kept it in their own possesion. It isn't licenced to be kept at the hospital as far as I know. The pharmacy at the hospital wouldn't touch it. It's not the sort of drug you should have at a homebirth anyway. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I am hoping to get a script for Misoprostal (sp) for my homebirth. Any ideas. Should I just ask a GP? What are they liable for if they do prescribe it. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robyn Dempsey Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:10 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc Yes, the synto is about $100 a box. So what I do, is buy/pay for one box, which lasts for the next women ( does that make sense?), I only use Synto about once a year! ( and then there are the years you need it 3 times in a row!) Robyn D - Original Message - From: Jennifairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath Had a client recently who I sent to her GP for a script for synt. She got the script, went to the chemist to fill it found it was going to cost her around $80 to get it - they only sold it in the boxes of five vials. I ended up asking around my MIPP friends managed to find some that way (dint need it anyway so its still in my fridge). If you give me your postal address Im happy to post some to you - my understanding is that its ok to keep it out of the fridge for a time. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women's Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer - Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] homebirth costs
Wow thats a significant difference between NSW and Vic, what about elsewhere?? Cheers, Di
RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth costs
Approx $2000-$2500 here in SA I think, from what I know anyway From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of diane Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 4:51 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] homebirth costs Wow thats a significant difference between NSW and Vic, what about elsewhere?? Cheers, Di -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 14/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 14/11/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
We use Misoprostol at the hospital where I work and it is kept in the fridge next to the syntocinon and syntometrine and the prostins etc. Why would you want to use it at your homebirth but. Syntocinon should be just fine. Misoprostol is a fairly heavy drug of choice with a fair few side effects and we only use it for large PPH's Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lisa Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:18:45 +1030 misoprostal isn't licenced here is Australia. I wouldn't be prescribing it if I were a GP. When I was Working at a private Hospital the Obs kept it in their own possesion. It isn't licenced to be kept at the hospital as far as I know. The pharmacy at the hospital wouldn't touch it. It's not the sort of drug you should have at a homebirth anyway. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I am hoping to get a script for Misoprostal (sp) for my homebirth. Any ideas. Should I just ask a GP? What are they liable for if they do prescribe it. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robyn Dempsey Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:10 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc Yes, the synto is about $100 a box. So what I do, is buy/pay for one box, which lasts for the next women ( does that make sense?), I only use Synto about once a year! ( and then there are the years you need it 3 times in a row!) Robyn D - Original Message - From: Jennifairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for friends and colleagues. Does anyone have a schedule of payment and cost that they use? I am meeting with a couple on Monday and would love to have a bit more idea. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Cath Had a client recently who I sent to her GP for a script for synt. She got the script, went to the chemist to fill it found it was going to cost her around $80 to get it - they only sold it in the boxes of five vials. I ended up asking around my MIPP friends managed to find some that way (dint need it anyway so its still in my fridge). If you give me your postal address Im happy to post some to you - my understanding is that its ok to keep it out of the fridge for a time. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women's Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer - Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Nov06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
