[ozmidwifery] Health seminar in Qld
Title: Health seminar in Qld Just advising those in Qld of a healh seminar, Harvey Bay April 28th and Brisbane 30th April. Kathy Scarborough, from Vaccination Information SA, talking on vaccination, Dr Eric Davis a naturual dentist and Patricia Hatherly, a CBE, lactation cons and Homeopath. If you want a PDF flyer , contact me off-list, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cheers Megan
[ozmidwifery] FW: vasectomy
Title: FW: vasectomy Hi all, Having just done the research, my beloved says he found the suggested fail rate of a vasectomy quoted as being between 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000. Most instances were due to not having waited long enough or getting confirmation with a second test. I also have a girlfriend having her third baby, 2 1/2 yrs after a vasectomy. Having said that I have heard a tubal ligation has a fail rate of 1 in 200, with the risk of an ectopic pregnancy very high as a result. Looking better for the blokes than us girls. If you really think there is a risk (as in Jo's hubbys case) get him to have a sperm count done, it should rule out if he is fertile. Could be worth having done every so often to see what is happening? Or , look at that if you get another baby, then thats a bit special too. Cheers Megan (Looking forward to life post-vasectomy very soon. LOL)
RE: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects
Hi Sharon An Osteopath told me that without prior knowledge she could tell if and where someone had been given an epidural and in the long term time frame you are talking of. I find that amazing and alarming. After my 4mth old had a lumbar puncture I had him treated by an Osteopath and she said she could feel the difference clearly in the areas below and above the sight. Hopefully for him treating it early will be enough. It might be worth contacting the Osteopathic association to see if they have any information that you can use. They have a website or try the phonebook. Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shaz42 Sent: Monday, 14 February 2005 8:16 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects the reason im so interested is that 20 years ago I had one during my sons birth. I now suffer from backpain when I get overtired especially in the area where I had the epidural. my sister also has the same problem after her epidural which she had 4 years ago.this pain is deep muscle pain which takes your breath away and all you can do to alleviate it is go to sleep for a few hours. in my practice as a midwife I feel we should be warning women of the long term effects of epidurals say 10 to 20 years from when they have them administered but I needed the evidence to back up my claim. regards sharon - Original Message - From: Elissa and David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects You may also find the leaflets at http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] epidurals and long term effects Hi Sharon, there is a great article with references titled 'Epidurals: real risks for mother and baby' by NZ trained GP Sarah Buckley on the birth international website available at www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/sarah02.html. Really compelling stuff on longer term morbidity for women and systemic effects on neonates. Very interesting stuff. regards, miriam --- Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help you with any references Sharon, but I have a question. what happens to the data when things DO go wrong with an epidural? I have two homebirth clients in the past couple of years who needed to be in hospital for their births, (one for PE one for APH) who had long term sequelae and who seemed not to be taken seriously by the anaesthetic dept of our major teaching hospital. The one who was induced for PE had an epidural headache for 11 days, despite narcotic pain relief and 3 attempts at a blood patch. She was unable to breastfeed, pick up her baby, do any mothering at all. It finally resolved after Bowen therapy to her back and neck. This was necessary for more than 6 months after the baby was born. Of course post-natal depression was also a problem which was dealt with by complimentary medicine, no interest from the hospital. The anaesthetists were not really interested in her once she left the hospital, still in severe pain and on Tramol. No follow-up. The APH (mother of 3) was left with severe foot-drop, the story of the anaesthetists interest was the same for the above. She has long term nerve damage. Very debillitating for a young mother of 3. I think that there may be a lot of adverse outcomes that don't get reported or followed-up. MM I was wondering is there anything to suggest that epidurals administered during labour have long term effects on women. such as backpain later in life I would be interested to find this out through studies ect I have looked on the Cochrane data base but cant find anything to do with this. regards sharon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] pill for Thai women
Hi Diedre, if you can find out what the Thai name of this pill is, get correct spelling etc, I can pass it on to my girlfriend living in Thailand. She is married to a local and can do the research to relay back in English what it is. I have asked her already and she says there is lots of pills and potions available over there for that purpose, but which one? You can email me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you like, cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dierdre Bowman Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2002 4:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas) McCullough!! Yes it is great news about Caroline! I new you could do it! Love and best wishes Dierdre Also have another query. I have a sister in law who ventures from Thailand and she has in her broken English been asking me about a pill that women can take to cleanse their woman areas. She says that she takes about once a month and helps with cleansing after menstral period. She tells me it decreases any odurs that may come from her womanly areas and is desperate to find out how to get it here in Australia. If anyone has any idea what this might be could you please fill me in as I have no idea what to suggest to her. Dierdre B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:32 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas) McCullough!! fantastic news, congratulations to Cas and her baby, Wayne and Lynne and Vicki. much love marilyn - Original Message - From: Jodie Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas) McCullough!! This is a quick note to all Cas's friends in birth reform. At 5.45 this am, Adam Samuel McCullough was roared into this world with the love and perseverence of mum Caroline and dad Wayne at Selangor Private Hospital near Maleny (Qld) with midwives Lynne and Vicki. After a lng pregnancy and a lng pre-labour he only took a rapid 5 hours (or so) to greet his parents. Naturally Cas and Wayne are ecstatic to have achieved a totally natural vaginal birth after two prior caesareans!! Please send your congratulations and support to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please feel free to pass on the news! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] GNT feedback
I have just sent off an email to both GNT and ABC feedback thanking them for the birth story. It wasn't hard and if a few of us sent in, then who knows what follow up stories may eventuate. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ABC'c feedback show or phone 1300 763 222 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] George Negus Tonight's feedback go for it Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Non-member submission from Sandra Kanck Sandra.Kanck@parliament.sa.gov.au
Without getting into the who to vote for thing, the individual work of a number of politicians in South Australia including Sandra Kanck, Frances Bedford, Kate Reynolds in regards to maternity service reform is outstanding and have the full support of those working for birth reform in SA. Megan Resch on behalf consumer birth support groups in SA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kim Hunter Sent: Friday, 8 October 2004 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Non-member submission from Sandra Kanck [EMAIL PROTECTED] DUE TO THIS PARLIAMENTARY LEADER NOT BEING A MEMBER OF THE LIST THIS MESSAGE IS FORWARD TO YOU ON HER BEHALF Subject: RE: [ausbirthingcommunity] What the Pollies are offering Midwifery? Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:01:23 +0930 From: Kanck, Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Allison, Lyn (Senator) [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear all, I have a wonderful working relationship with midwives in South = Australia, so I was a bit miffed to read how Justine had effectively = dismissed the work of the Democrats on midwifery and said that a = formally lodged preference ticket (which is required anyway under = electoral laws) was of particular interest, inferring that it was of = more interest than the record and commitment of the Democrats. Lyn Allison has spelt out our record and our policies, but I want to = speak up for myself. For ten years I have been the sole MP in the South Australian parliament = pushing midwifery issues, attempting to amend legislation to recognise = the professionalism of midwives, pushing the Government to assist = independent midwives to obtain indemnity cover, asking questions about = midwives access to retraining, and this year introducing a Midwives Bill = into the parliament. I note also (because he has included me in some of his e-mails) that = Duncan Dean, one of the Democrat candidates in the Northern Territory, = has made the cause of midwives one of the centrepieces of his campaign. We've had this scare campaign about Family First - emanating from the = Greens Party which has lots to gain by putting down the Democrats - = going quite extensively in South Australia. Let me assure you that = water cannot run two ways at once. We in South Australia will be = getting Family First preferences, and it then becomes a physical = impossibility for FF to get ours. Please don't let experienced electoral manipulators scare you into = changing your vote because you don't know how the system works. The = polls show that Family First will not win a single Senate seat across = Australia. Yours sincerely Sandra Kanck SA Democrats Parliamentary Leader - Kim Hunter Step Two Designs Pty Ltd Knowledge Management / Content Management / Intranets http://www.steptwo.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Birth Matters SA coffee morning
Hello all, Just a reminder that the Birth Matters SA group is holding another of our highly successful, and well attended coffee evenings this week, on Thursday. See below for details, and it would be great to see you there! Midwives, students, women, partners, parents, friends, all welcome! Cheers Megan Birth Matters Coffee or tea Mornings Join us, to discuss bellies, birth, babies, breasts and beyond Thursday September 23rd, 7.30 - 9.30pm. Eastwood Community Centre. 95 Glen Osmond Rd, Eastwood. (just mins East of city) Charge of $2, to cover room hire. We are at the back area. Children welcome and well-catered for. for more information : Megan Resch 8178 0149 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom
howdy, a vaginal birth was really important to the woman, she was well informed and made clear choices re her midwife and back up Obs. She had a couple of appointments with the doctor where the importance of her wishes were discussed. The baby remained strong throughout the whole labour, but I'm unsure of exactly what monitering was done, I'm pretty sure she wasn't strapped up continously. Most importantly she was committed to having this baby vaginally and was prepared to move heaven and earth for it. She has nothing but praise for the Obs, who was supportive the entire time. At the end of the day it was best practice as it should be. Which brings to mind the recently posted quote The question is not whether women have a choice, but are they willing to make a choice. Absolutely YES in this case. cheers Megan PS maybe we could post more follow ups on this list, its nice to hear about the outcomes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Graham and Helen Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom This is a great story and a great outcome. I am just surprised that the hospital was prepared to wait another 27 hours and allow her to give birth naturally. I would have expected them to be pushing for a caesar long before that, as is the norm these days. I'd be interested to know if it was a battle or were they supportive. Helen Cahill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom Hi Lynne, she had the ECV, which bubs took to kindly and remained head down. She went into spontaneous labour, after 24+ hard working hours at home they transferred to hospital for a rest and epidural. Another 27 hours later she birthed vaginally her strong, healthy 4.5 kg daughter. A mammoth effort, for which she is extremely proud of and rightly so. thanks for asking, Megan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lynne Staff Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom Hi Megan how did this woman fare with her birth? Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom Does anyone know if there is compelling evidence why a VBAC should be ruled out because baby is in breech position, to add to it the feet are down, not bum? Mum is about 35-36 weeks, planned homebirth, excellent supportive OBs, and has a week ahead of bookings and tricks to help baby turn, Obs is also supportive of ECV if necessary. Bubs just did the flip last week. Any thought on this would be grately appreciated. Its strange to hear comments from the likes of Ann Peacock and Tracy Curo and to know and be with someone who would move heaven and earth for the chance of a vaginal birth. Thanks Megan This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.871 (20040916) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] floradix
My Ind midwife suggests it, I've used it for three pregnancies, I get a real kick out of it. Also discovered I can but it from my local Coles supermarket for only $22, as against around $30 in health shops. My midwife told me about a client who had a history of low iron in her pregnancies and spent a fortune on Floridex. By chance she had a meal of kangaroo meat during the week before having her iron levels checked and it was the highest it had ever been. The roo meat was the only changes she had made in her diet. Interesting, but I don't know how much higher roo meat is against other meats. I think a friend uses 5W, she's in New Zealand at the moment, but will ask when she gets back. cheers Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Callum KirstenSent: Saturday, 18 September 2004 9:16 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] floradix Hi all, On another list i'm on they are "discussing" Floradix. There are opinions that state its harmful because its a non regulated herbal medicine and should not be taken by pregnant or lactating woman. I had low iron levels in all my pregnancies and Floradix was recommended by mu midwife. It was fantastic andimproved my levels whereas Ferrogradumet did not. Does anyone here recommend it for their mums to be? And also what about 5W? It was common place in NZ to use it, but i haven't come across it here yet. Kirsten student midwife Darwin ~~~start life with a midwife~~~
[ozmidwifery] question
Recently I remember a posting about finding 'significant' people to write a letter of endorsement for continuos midwifery care, or something of that nature (I think) I beleive Mary Mooneys name was mentioned, her daughter is in Adelaide doing BMid and is happy to ask her mum for a letter. Let me know and I'll pass it along and if I'm dreaming this up then please ignore my post baby brain, cheers Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Ab Fab birth
It looks like Saffron has her baby on Absolutley Fabulous tonight, ABC,8.30pm. From the ad it seems to be a birth at home, with the usual toppings that Ab Fab do so well. Cheers Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Flinders Medical Centre
Hi Wendy, Have a look at http://www.dh.sa.gov.au/pehs/pregnancyoutcome.htmyou can weed out what kind of things are going on in SA. Flinders is a level3 teaching hospital which does have a midwifery run birth centre (BC)for low risk women. They don't have a continuity programme, trying to get one running, so currently if a woman transfers her care out of the unit she will lose her midwife and the philosophies of the BC. The midwife running the BC is Julie Pratt, she hashad independant practicein the past and is very supportive of women centred care. Unfortunately the unit lost VBAC care last year due to the hospital wanting all VBAC women to be monitered, therfor no longer low risk, as a result the VBAC outcomes have plummeted. You can waterbirth in the BC. A range of Obs working at FMC, with various philosophies which seem to change depending onhow strongthe woman is, etc. The web address is http://www.flinders.sa.gov.au/ The local area is quite lovely. A few km's up the hill from FMC is the lovely Adelaide Hills, very open and lots of natural bush still around with excellent public schools. Head West a few km's and you have the coastal suburbs, if you love the beach, either way its not too far. For an areadirectory go to http://www.adelaide.citysearch.com.au/search?type=map_searchand type in the suburb of Bedford Park. I have grown up at the coast and recently moved to the hills so FMC has been my local hospital. I had my first baby there as a private patient and then my next three at home. We wanted the continuity and to birth at home. The Women and Childrens Hospital, has just started a midwifery continuity programme, midwife stays with woman for entirety of pregnancy. Currently available to 500 women, increasing by another 250 soon and then to 1000 in 2005. Also have a community midwifery programme in our Nthn suburbs, Northern Womens Community Midwifery practice, offering continuity and option of birth at home. The Queen Elizabeth Hospital, western suburbs, recently lost all maternity services due to lack of Obstetricians. TQEH had/has a wonderful midwifery run BC still offering VBAC. Hopefully the maternity unit will reopen with a stronger midwifery presence, planning is in the pipeline. We also have very active birth consumer groups, http://www.maternitycoalition.org.au/memberorgs.htmlBirth Matters, CARES SA, Homebirth Network SA and a SA branch of the Maternity Coalition. We all communicate together very wellwitha number ofmembers crossing over to all groups. We have strong links with a few of our politicians and good communication with a number of our midwives. Anyway, that should get you started, if you would like to know more contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Wendy TabererSent: Monday, 19 July 2004 5:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Flinders Medical Centre Hi, Im looking for information on the Flinders Medical Centre, Adelaide. I have a c.v. on its way for consideration. Live in England at present with partner and two young children 12 and 9. Working in a low risk birthing centre run by about 14 midwives and looking to migrate to Australia. Would love to hear more about the hospital and the surrounding areas. Thanks Wendy Taberer
RE: [ozmidwifery] Cervix position and labour duration
Dear Simone I can relate to needing treatment for back and pubic symphysis pain with osteopathy, it has kept me going. I use it to support my body and especially through my pregnancies when I suffer the most. I guess for me its been about my strength to continue my daily activities, not about where my cervix is or how quick I birth, however I understand the benefits may assist in the birth process. My last baby (fourth) was swinging from left anterior to posterior and I decided to just let it, I refused to do the time on my hands and knees, or what ever else, encouraging it to stay anterior. I figured it knew how to go there and chose to trust it in its reasons. I also know the possibilites of a posterior birth, but just didn't have the head space to fix it. The outcome was me not fixated on where my baby was laying and a baby in left anterior with a 2 hour birth. I suppose if we and those who support us trust enough in birth, then the majority of times it will give a good result, regardless of which tools are available. If you incorporate this phylosophy into your practice then it can benefit. I think we have to keep in mind that far too many women are not supported positively in their pregnancy and it is common for them to rely on others to make it happen. If I was birthing in the medical model, I might like my baby, cervix and whatever else in the right place to help the birth go smoothly. Anyway, my two cents on the subject, cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simone Keddy Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervix position and labour duration Dear All, I hope that I have not given the impression that as an osteopath I do not believe women can birth normally. I encourage women to believe in themselves and to find the support networks they require to help them understand the physiology of birth and how to achieve their desired birth outcomes. Most women I see who are pregnant are suffering form pain. Commonly back pain or pubic symphysis pain. The treatment helps to relieve them of their pain and helps to enure good pelvic mechanics for the birth. I don't believe that women are made to believe that they need treatment to help them through the pregnancy and labour. However, back pain is a major problem with our society, with approximately 1 in 3 everyday people having at least a week off work due to back pain, during their working life. Back pain is very common during pregnancy and treatment can help. A vast majority of back pain either during pregnancy or not, is related to altered functioning of the mechanics of the body. This can be due to previous accidents, posture, obesity etc. Treatment can help relieve restrictions and help the body adjust to the changes during pregnancy. This will also hopefully aid the pelvic mechanics for birth. I must stress that any internal exam or treatment of pregnant women is not a common, nor the only treatment an osteopath will provide. I posted the question not to upset people, and not to insinuate that women are unable to birth by themselves, but to try and benefit from the large experience base of people on the list. I believe that collating all the different information and views is beneficial in determining treatment plans. I do not have the direct reference here, but I know that the some of the first osteopathic research done in around 1900 was comparing lengths of labour in women who had had osteopathic treatment and those that had not. The research found that women who had osteopathic treatment had shorter labours. I am currently trying to locate another research article that addressed the same issue. I think that good osteopathic care during pregnancy, is more than the treatment. I also try to educate patients about birth physiology. As part of my course we had a days lecture with Michael Odent. I have also done reading on the subject. I would like to think that I can be part of a team of people that pregnant women can receive help from. I hope that I have not offended anyone with my views. I do appreciate everyone's feedback as it gives me greater understanding to share with my patients. Thanks for reading Simone - Original Message - From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervix position and labour duration Hi all, I believe most of the discussion around osteopaths and cervixes is still leading pregnant women to believe that they 'need help' before during or after birth and creates more tension than it could relieve. There are active osteopaths and also acupunturists in my area and the women seem to spend lots of time and money with little observable change in outcome, just a greater dependency on 'others' to help them. Obviously noting baby's lie is very important leading up to labour, but how the cervix behaves is
