[P2P-F] Sapiens.org : Anarchism in Practice Is Often Radically Boring Democracy

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

https://www.sapiens.org/culture/anarchism-democracy/

"What is anarchism apart from these caricatures? And how does it relate to
“antifa”?

The term “anarchy” literally means “without [a] ruler,” and not, as many
believe, “no rules.” Although many anarchists want radical change, the
change that most envision is not societal breakdown but rather people learning
to collectively rule themselves
 (or in
other words, direct democracy).

The basic premise guiding anarchist political philosophy is simple: Humans
are fundamentally cooperative

by
nature and, when given the chance, flourish in situations of collective
self-governance
.
By self-governance, anarchists typically mean an arrangement in which every
person has an unalienable right to participate fully in any political
decision made on their behalf—and to leave any association that makes a
decision they find unconscionable.

Taking the term in this broadest sense, attempts at anarchist societies or
collectives over the last two centuries have been numerous and persistent,
if often short-lived. However, as anthropologists like to point out
,
humans organized themselves in stateless societies
 with
great success for much of ancient history, and many continue to do so in
various ways, without using the label “anarchy.” In fact, “state-level”
societies have existed for only a fraction of the roughly 300,000 years
modern humans have thrived—emerging an estimated 5,000 years ago
—and
should still be regarded as an experiment, with mixed results."

...

" As an anthropologist who has studied and worked with leftist activists in
the U.S. for more than a decade, I’ve come to understand anarchy as
something that looks very different from the violent, lawless chaos that
many people picture it to be.

...

The use of the term “anarchy” to describe the riot isn’t shocking—violent
chaos is, after all, one of its generally accepted meanings. But it has
little to do with how actual anarchists understand and apply their
political philosophy.

While an exciting idea, anarchism in practice is, well, boring. Far from
what window-smashing insurrectionists are doing, it mostly takes the form
of an extremely slow-moving and highly rule-bound process of collective
deliberation. Anarchy, paradoxically, means more rules, not fewer, and more
collective responsibility
,
not less.

Unfortunately, since much of the United States has been misled

into
thinking that anarchists—specifically, those involved with “antifa
”—were responsible
for the putative anarchy at the Capitol, an impressionable observer might
think that actual anarchists want violent chaos.

The cognitive dissonance would be amusing if the situation weren’t so
horrifying. If there had been *actual* anarchy in the Capitol that day,
rather than a right-wing insurrection, Ernst and her Republican colleagues
would likely have been in for a long, well-facilitated meeting aimed at
complete consensus. "
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[P2P-F] L’« islamogauchisme » n’est pas une réalité scientifique | CNRS

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Similar polarization, but with different words used to put forth logical
fallacies, are used by the french extreme right in the French speaking
world as ad personam against "the left"

https://www.cnrs.fr/fr/l-islamogauchisme-nest-pas-une-realite-scientifique

" « L’islamogauchisme », slogan politique utilisé dans le débat public, ne
correspond à aucune réalité scientifique. Ce terme aux contours mal
définis, fait l’objet de nombreuses prises de positions publiques, tribunes
ou pétitions, souvent passionnées. Le CNRS condamne avec fermeté celles et
ceux qui tentent d’en profiter pour remettre en cause la liberté
académique, indispensable à la démarche scientifique et à l’avancée des
connaissances, ou stigmatiser certaines communautés scientifiques. Le CNRS
condamne, en particulier, les tentatives de délégitimation de différents
champs de la recherche, comme les études postcoloniales, les études
intersectionnelles ou les travaux sur le terme de « race », ou tout autre
champ de la connaissance. "
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[P2P-F] No. You’re Not Getting “Canceled” for Being a Conservative | Jayson D. Bradley

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Discerning accountability, As per American political polarization and
logical fallacies ( and its unfortunate reproduction beyond american
political contexts )

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jaysondbradley/2021/02/cancel-culture/

" People are experiencing real-life accountability and consequences for
pushing baseless conspiracy theories, denying science, promoting hate and
violence, and showing insensitivity to others. If you want to claim those
are conservative or Christian values, that’s on you. The plain truth is
that people are experiencing consequences for being cruel because they’ve
embraced the idea that being sensitive to others is “politically correct.”
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: What is the "Successor Ideology"?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

What are the words, concepts, and political correctness that are being
enforced by the ( alt light / nouvelle droite ) right?  And once we
understand what ideology is actually being defended by those who are
critical of the progressive left, what does this kind of cultural war
actually serve? To counter any change? To avoid any criticism? To avoid
addressing a variety of issues?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

"  Commentators on the political left
 in the United States
 contend that conservatives
 use the concept of political
correctness to downplay and divert attention from substantively
discriminatory behavior against disadvantaged groups.[23]

[26]

[27] 
They
also argue that the political right
 enforces its own forms of
political correctness to suppress criticism of its favored constituencies
and ideologies.[28]

[29]

[30]
 In
the United States, the term has played a major role in the "culture war
" between liberals
 and
conservatives
.[31]
  "




On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 3:57 PM Michel Bauwens 
wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Persuasion 
> Date: Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 9:07 PM
> Subject: What is the "Successor Ideology"?
> To: 
>
>
> Listen now | Yascha Mounk talks to Wesley Yang about the meaning and the
> prospects of the "successor
> ideology." ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
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> 
> What is the "Successor Ideology"?
> 
>
>
> 
> Yascha Mounk
> 
> Nov 14
> 

[P2P-F] Excerpt - The German Basic Law, Article 14

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

“Property entails obligations. Its use should also serve the common good.”

https://www.deutschland.de/en/topic/politics/the-german-basic-law-article-14-property-and-the-right-of-inheritance-shall-be
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Re: [P2P-F] A Global New Deal For The Commons:

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Its nice to have such understanding shared, yet can we really enable it to
be integrated in current power dynamics without bringing forward proper
information tools to enable such emergence?

Such as An Editable Graph DataBase, using Open Linked Data,

I can enable visualizing externalities / costs / opportunities / causality,
and facilitate / determine networked agreements amongst us based on
contextual understanding.

This topic has been discussed already over the last decennial ++ on our
lists.
I don't understand why the bulb doesn't light, to such point that I do not
see much of a point further evangelizing the commons, cosmolocalization,
p2pgovernance, etc unless such technical solutions are understood by all of
us.

Some went on working on such ideas, with various tools to integrate.

http://ceptr.org/

One tool being REA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resources,_events,_agents_(accounting_model)

https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Holo-REA


and at a smaller less well known scale, some other experimentation and
entry point of explanations for such paradigm

https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Netention



On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:06 PM Michel Bauwens 
wrote:

> HERE IS JOSEPH CEDERWALL'S PROPOSAL:
> A Global New Deal For The Commons:
>
> https://thedig.nz/editorial/hope-for-nature-a-new-deal-for-the-commons/?
>
> I propose that what humanity and the planet desperately needs is a Global
> New Deal For The Commons. Such a deal would require a global mobilisation
> to ensure that the natural and cultural commons are protected and
> sustainable biodiversity-friendly and cooperatist land-use is adopted. If
> structured right, such a deal would have a massive impact towards restoring
> the planetary ecosystem and biodiversity, as well as healing deprived and
> hopeless communities everywhere in the process.
>
> To truly turn the biodiversity and climate crises around, this new deal
> needs to happen at least on a scale of wartime efforts such as the Marshall
> Plan of WWII or the New Deal of the Depression-era. As Rutger Bregman
> argues, centralised state action will be essential to any realistic efforts
> to drive an environmental effort on the scale required. However, I am less
> cynical than Bregman about the power of bottom-up efforts, and believe a
> properly balanced combination of the two is essential.
>
> A biodiversity-focused investment on this scale could combine central
> investment with an approach focused on catalysing, fostering, and scaling
> bottom-up land-use initiatives and ideas. It could prioritise local
> communities as workforces and support the emergence of ground-up,
> decentralised solutions and initiatives over centrally imposed or
> market-based solutions wherever possible.
>
> Such a new deal for the commons would require associated work on reforming
> land tenure and local democratic and economic institutions on a scale not
> attempted since the communist project. However, rather than the top-down
> command and control approach of communism, it would provide a framework,
> resources and tools for communities to re-learn how to live harmoniously
> with each other and with nature’s abundance. This approach could spread
> knowledge, technology and best practice for environmental restoration
> globally through open sourcing IP and implementing solidarity networks or
> networks of mutual aid across society.
>
> This new deal would also require real action on the national and global
> level to reform global governance and regulation and build a more just
> international order and institutions. This would require new agreements
> such as an international law of “ecocide,” and strengthened international
> environmental laws and enforcement mechanisms to ensure the compliance of
> corporations and rogue imperialist nations. This new order would also need
> to address debt-enslavement, eternal growth imperatives, and rebalance
> global wealth disparity to stop wealthy nations from shifting the impacts
> of growth onto vulnerable populations and ecosystems.
>
> However, crucially, to bring about this new order, we must find ways to
> continue challenging the narrow confines of permitted thought and debate
> keeping us locked in the destructive dominion paradigm. It would need to
> restore the rule of law and ensure the protection of whistleblowers,
> journalists, activists and politicians challenging this narrative. If not,
> who will hold power accountable for their inaction or blocking of real
> progress? Who will continue to tell the stories and defend the rights of
> those on the margins building the alternative futures discussed above?"
>
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[P2P-F] + Cosmolocalization Scrip ? Re: What happens when a state doesn't control its own monetary creation ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Places / real economies like Greece ( although Estonia would also be an
interesting place as its government already invested in blockchain database
solutions )

could imho benefit from a state guaranteed Cosmolocalization Scrip

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrip

For example, a government could decide to issue Scrip ( the state of
California did issue IOU's, a few years back, that could be used to pay
taxes )

and decide to spend it into existence in sectors of the local economy it
could even decide to define and update ( using scrip in the form of a token
/ smart contract ),

ideally to generate access to currency in parts of the economy that are
under served in currency, and especially to enable services and production
that can reduce dependency on imports and/or bootstrap sectors that could
also lead to exports.

It could also track usage of the scrip through analytics enabled by its
tokens on its blockchain ( or holochain ? ) , understanding the effects and
usage of the scrip. ( potentially anonymized ? )

This would fit perfectly within a Cosmolocalization narrative.

Such a Scrip could also function so as to reduce paper work ( online
accounts, digital payments ) and be adapted, not to replace Euros, but as a
complementary currency. For example, imported goods might only have a
percentage of the price of the good related to local services in cosmo
scrip.

The government(s) could also generate demand for the scrip by accepting it
as a medium of tax payment. Although to avoid it replacing all euro tax
income, the government(s - including regional or local ) could for example
accept only a certain percentage of a persons or company's scrip as tax
payment. Similarly to a dual complementary currency mode used for other
goods.

It could experiment at first with anything that is locally produced, and
also start by allocating an addition to the current euro salary of
government workers, in scrip.

If successful, it could also enable loans in scrip, by local businesses
that can use it to develop local production ( and ultimately reduce the
need for imports ),

and it can also strategically enable clusters of interdependent businesses
that can benefit from each others services,

and can also ultimately facilitate online markets and a c3 ( commercial
credit circuit )


https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/balance-of-trade

https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/current-account



On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 07:53 Dante-Gabryell Monson ___
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[P2P-F] + Cosmolocalization Scrip ? Re: What happens when a state doesn't control its own monetary creation ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Places / real economies like Greece ( although Estonia would also be an
interesting place as its government already invested in blockchain database
solutions )

could imho benefit from a state guaranteed Cosmolocalization Scrip

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrip

For example, a government could decide to issue Scrip ( the state of
California did issue IOU's, a few years back, that could be used to pay
taxes )

and decide to spend it into existence in sectors of the local economy it
could even decide to define and update ( using scripp in the form of a
token / smart contract ),

ideally to generate access to currency in parts of the economy that are
under served in currency, and especially to enable services and production
that can reduce dependency on imports and/or bootstrap sectors that could
also lead to exports.

It could also track usage of the scrip through analytics enabled by its
tokens on its blockchain ( or holochain ? ) , understanding the effects and
usage of the scrip. ( potentially anonymized ? )

This would fit perfectly within a Cosmolocalization narrative.

Such a Scrip could also function so as to reduce paper work ( online
accounts, digital payments ) and be adapted, not to replace Euros, but as a
complementary currency. For example, imported goods might only have a
percentage of the price of the good related to local services in cosmo
scrip.

The government(s) could also generate demand for the scrip by accepting it
as a medium of tax payment. Although to avoid it replacing all euro tax
income, the government(s - including regional or local ) could for example
accept only a certain percentage of a persons or company's scrip as tax
payment. Similarly to a dual complementary currency mode used for other
goods.

It could experiment at first with anything that is locally produced, and
also start by allocating an addition to the current euro salary of
government workers, in scrip.

If successful, it could also enable loans in scrip, by local businesses
that can use it to develop local production ( and ultimately reduce the
need for imports ),

and it can also strategically enable clusters of interdependent businesses
that can benefit from each others services,

and can also ultimately facilitate online markets and a c3 ( commercial
credit circuit )


https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/balance-of-trade

https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/current-account



On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 07:53 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
> Just brainstormed this on fb :
>
> As long as there are foreign currency reserves ( usually trade surplus vs
> the currency ), the state could spend as much as it needs into creation,
> and as long as this spending meets development it doesn't necessarily mean
> inflation.
>
> Hyperinflation happens so as to reduce the capacity of each to buy
> imported goods, in a situation of severe trade disbalance and a scarcity of
> foreign reserves. Deflation in the case of not having control on your own
> currency and monetary supply drying out.
>
> Currently, limitations imposed on european states are meant to avoid
> inflation, and/or debasement, or rather, they are meant to enable private
> sector such privilege in creating markets and hence directing society in
> the direction it sees fit, rather than the state.
>
> Although limitations on spending doesn't necessarily benefit the real
> economy, nor quality of life through access to currency in certain lower
> social classes.
>
> What currently happens, is that we depend, in the Euro Zone, exclusively
> on a monetary monopoly controlled by private financial networks of
> corporations.
>
> ...
>
> An additional aspect being credit peak, which works in the context of debt
> that has to be repaid.
>
> Since the 70 ies, banks imposed on states not to create their own money
> into existence, and instead leave such monopoly to private banks, bringing
> us in a "state of submission" to private finance for access to currency.
>
> Taxation, initially, could serve to control monetary mass. It was not
> needed to fund the state.
>
> But in the current context, states are obliged to borrow from financial
> institutions, and hence politicians are pressured to make sure they can
> continue paying interest on the debt.
>
> To oversimplify : not only is this theft ( transfer of property ), but it
> is depriving a large part of the population of the currency it needs to
> generate services between each other and hence increase each other's
> quality of life !
>
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[P2P-F] Ecolibertarianism ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://earthfreedom.net/ecolibertarianism

EcoLibertarianism combines the Georgist/geoclassical economic insights of
geolibertarianism  with the
broader ecological and decentralist concerns of green libertarianism
. EcoLibertarianism
primarily differs from classical (or "royal
") libertarianism in
how property relates to the commons.
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[P2P-F] Fwd: The EU GDPR and how it can enable Platform Cooperativism ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson 
Date: Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:13 PM
Subject: The EU GDPR and how it can enable Platform Cooperativism ?
To: platformcoop-disc...@lists.riseup.net


May 2018, will our platforms be ready to make it easier to re-use our
google and facebook graph data ( or any existing platform where we have
data ), to generate value amongst ourselves by migrating such data onto our
own platforms ?

https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21721634-how-it-
shaping-up-data-giving-rise-new-economy





*Mandatory data sharing is not unheard of: Germany requires insurers
jointly to maintain a set of statistics, including on car accidents, which
smaller firms would not be able to compile on their own. The European
Union’s new General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which will start to
apply in May 2018, requires online services to make it easy for customers
to transfer their information to other providers and even
competitors.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation> *


*The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) (Regulation (EU) 2016/679)
is a regulation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_(European_Union)>
by which the European Parliament
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament>, the Council of the
European Union
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union> and the
European Commission <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission>
intend to strengthen and unify data protection
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_protection> for all individuals within
the European Union <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union> (EU). It
also addresses the export of personal data outside the EU. The GDPR aims
primarily to give control back to citizens and residents over their
personal data and to simplify the regulatory environment for international
business <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_business> by unifying
the regulation within the EU.[1]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#cite_note-1>
When the GDPR takes effect, it will replace the data protection directive
(officially Directive 95/46/EC)
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_95/46/EC>[2]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#cite_note-2>
of 1995. The regulation was adopted on 27 April 2016. It becomes
enforceable from 25 May 2018 after a two-year transition period and, unlike
a directive <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_(European_Union)>, it
does not require national governments to pass any enabling legislation, and
is thus directly binding and applicable.*
https://pagefair.com/blog/2017/gdpr_risk_to_the_duopoly/
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[P2P-F] Fwd: Pixelache 2017 festival: Local and Decentralised

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Pixelache Helsinki 
Date: Mon, May 29, 2017 at 4:04 PM
Subject: Pixelache 2017 festival: Local and Decentralised





Local & Decentralised - Pixelache Festival, 22nd - 24h.9.2017 in Suvilahti
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Local & Decentralised
Pixelache Festival 22-24.9.2017

After the 2015 festival that travelled through Living Spaces, and the 2016
festival delving deep into Interfaces for Empathy, Pixelache festival 2017
now gathers stories of Local & Decentralised governance. Tapping into the
shift from centralised capital-based economies to decentralised peer-based
resource distribution, we offer the festival as a meeting point for local
initiatives to share their experiences.

Local and decentralised governance seems to happen when collective design
and a tangible group effort come together. In order to materialize the
Local & Decentralised theme itself, Suvilahti hosts a model construction
site built by teams who realise the main venue of the festival from 15.9 to
21.9, during the Recycling Olympic Games 2017. These new spatial
configurations will emerge among with pre-existing DIY areas, such as the
skate-park area, to create fluid activity and discussion places for the
festival.

Oranssi ry, the empowering youth organisation takes an important role as
festival partner, hosting pre-festival events and festival activities in
their premises starting from 18.9. Furthermore, permanent Suvilahti
tenants' and Pixelache members' contributions form a significant part of
the main program.

Major developments of decentralization can and do occur: currency, energy,
resources, and feelings are being decentralised and distributed. These
developments bring about problems that cannot be solved on a purely
conceptual level; they need to be embodied and lived through for a shift to
yet different models. Thus fear of the unforeseen and unpredictable must
also be addressed.

How is it possible to express a multiplicity of will, is the present
practice of a State effective enough to convey it? Often the movements
towards local and decentralised structures are related to privatisation in
economical models; how can diverse collective interest meet on economical
terms? Can we be local and decentralised and yet be connected globally,
micro-organisms breathing within a vast complex macro system?

>From the festival activities stories emerge that depict how governance
functions between civil society, individual initiatives and government, and
also how citizens themselves coagulate into structures where governance
happens locally, and where we can come to terms with inefficiencies,
passivity, interests, time, jargon.

Local & Decentralised festival does not let you down, it will be your local
event to differentiate consensus from silence: talking of ecological
issues, promoting visual culture as a shield against pessimism, presenting
how democracy benefits from digital media -or not, playing games to prove
that we are as connected as we are, offering workshops to learn again the
pleasure of learning things together, finding music and contemporary art
that make sense more than science, and divulging science as creative as
drama.

The festival is free entrance and suitable for families.
Soon more information at festival.pixelache.ac





*CONTACT FESTIVAL DIRECTORS *
Egle Oddo, e...@pixelache.ac  --- tel: +358 451110119 <+358%2045%201110119>
Mikko Laajola, mi...@pixelache.ac
*Pixelache Helsinki Office*
www.pixelache.ac




*VENUES, PLACES AND SCHEDULE*

*--- Pre-festival activities in Suvilahti and Central Helsinki*
At skate-park, construction of Decentralised venue: from 15 to 21.9.2017
At Oranssi building 11, workshops: from 18 to 21.9.2017
At Muu ry, exhibition Pixelache and Koelse 15 years: opening day 21.9.2017

*--- Local & Decentralised festival program in Suvilahti*
At skate park, Decentralised festival venue: from 22.9 to 24.9.2017
At Oranssi building from 22.9 to 24.9.2017


Local & Decentralised festival is supported by Ministry of Education and
Culture
,
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[P2P-F] Fwd: notes from the DIEM25 launch

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Geert Lovink 
Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:22 AM
Subject: Re:  notes from the DIEM25 launch
To: a moderated mailing list for net criticism 


Dear nettimers,

perhaps it is good to give an update where DIEM25 stands at the moment. I
can by no means claim that I have an overview. There is a core group around
Yanis Varoufakis and they have been busy with setting up a website
including a separate forum for discussions:

http://www.diem25.org/forum/

The next milestone is the DIEM25 event in Rome on March 23, 2016:

https://democracyineurope.eu/

There is also an event in Amsterdam called the G-10 of the Economy:

http://www.g10vandeeconomie.nl/programEN.php

Here are more articles and news snippets: http://diem25.org/news/.

Best, Geert

--

This is the update from March 17 by Yanis Varoufakis:

Hello everyone. I feel a certain trepidation posting my first comment on
our brand new Forum. So, let me go straight into the one aspect of DiEM25
that has been at the top of everyone's mind: How to kick start our
Transparency in Europe Now! campaign in a manner that is not only effective
'externally' (i.e. making the Rome event a success, helping attract
numerous signatories to our petition etc.) but also in a manner reflecting
our capacity to bring transparency to DiEM25's internal operations.

I have followed with interest some criticisms waged at the way members have
been observing "things happening in DiEM25 out of nowhere" (the very
announcement of the Rome event, the choice of stuff that appears on the
site etc.) and without feeling they have a say in any of this. Undoubtedly,
this smacks of hypocrisy for any movement that places transparency at the
top of its list of priorities. But, let me assure everyone, that this is
also the view of those of us who have been working behind the scenes.

Every initiative needs initiators - even initiatives that seek to embrace a
flat management, spontaneous order, horizontal organisation way of doing
'stuff'. We were hoping to be able to move quickly from the initiation
phase (during which a number of us would get DiEM25 together) to the open
source phase (where the rest of you would take over and run with it).
Unfortunately, our digital platform proved unequal to the task immediately
after Berlin. So, we spent a great deal longer than we wanted at the
initiation phase.

We are now close to the moment of the Great Transition (to the open source
phase). To the moment when DiEM25 will be able to practise that which it
preaches regarding transparency. But before we get there, perhaps it is
pertinent to ask everyone:

HOW DO YOU SUGGEST WE GO TO THE OPEN SOURCE PHASE?
WHAT WOULD THIS PHASE BE LIKE IN TERMS OF ORGANISING DIEM25 PER LANGUAGE,
PER EUROPEAN COUNTRY, AND EUROPE-WISE?

Let's talk about this, shall we?

Yanis Varoufakis




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Re: [P2P-F] Automation Doesn't Just Destroy Jobs--It Destroys Profits, Too

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Eric.

It is also interesting to look at it from the point of perspective of
control, property, of who controls what.

My feeling is that capital, and artificially scarce money as capital, is
only a tool to transfer and concentrate property and control in the hands
of a minority over time.

If , in the logic of concentrated power, humans are not any more needed ,
or only a small percentage of humans are needed to control other humans, or
to maintain the priiledges of certain super wealthy in a competition with
other super wealthy, and if less money is circulating,
it may not necessarily be a big problem for the super wealthy.The issue
I would speculate, is not if they loose billions or make billions, but
rather how much control the super wealthy have in relation to others.

If a great part of the population ends up without money, the billions they
already have can buy them much more power.

If it leads to a great deal of the population being even more alienated, it
only poses a threat as soon as such populations get organized to generate
alternative "games" of organization, and can disenfranchise themselves,
eventually by using technology, too.   Yet there , once more,
concentration of land, requirements for paying taxes in corporate currency,
and so forth, reduce by so much the opportunities for disenfranchising.

We may indeed, as I noticed some articles speculating, be beyond capitalism
already.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Eric Hunting  wrote:

> This is an argument I've been making for many years myself. In the debate
> about automation and job destruction it is commonly overlooked that labor
> and capital are in the same boat when it comes to long-term impact because
> production capability itself is becoming a commodity. Machines aren't just
> getting smarter, they're getting smaller, more adaptive, progressively
> lower in minimum necessary production volumes, and cheaper. You can now
> initiate more kinds of production 'out of pocket' than ever before. You can
> now competitively manufacture more things in the space of a four car garage
> than ever before. You can now approach a conventional middle-class standard
> of living based on entirely local and personal production and open source
> designs. Corporations are beginning to abandon the ownership of their own
> means to production in favor of job-shops because as that production
> capacity becomes more of a commodity the cost of money and the adaptability
> lost to amortization becomes the chief drag on market competitiveness. The
> volume of consumer goods produced in job shops went past that from
> traditional factories in the year 2000, and it never went back. The
> factory--and the traditional capital creating it--is already an
> anachronism. This brings us to the core premise of Post-Industrial
> futurism; that the paradigms of the Industrial Age are being eroded by the
> evolution of the very technologies on which they depend. This is the
> ultimate crisis of Capitalism; the eventual obsolescence of capital itself
> by the automation it cultivated as value shifts away from material goods
> and the means to make them and becomes virtualized, integral to design. The
> product has no value. The real value is in the 'spime'. Already
> corporations are increasingly obsessed with litigation, intellectual
> property, whittling-away at the First Sale Doctrine, and limiting the
> rights and controlling the behavior of the consumer as means to maintain
> market share.
>
> The long-term evolution of production and distribution is a transition to
> localization, networking, production-on-demand, increasing reliance on
> management automation through quantitative analysis, increasing
> cost-transparency, and eventual integration into the infrastructure of the
> built habitat as a kind of municipal utility. The global economy will shift
> from trading in goods to trading in commodity refined materials and modular
> parts. As labor is factored out of production, cost of production becomes
> more transparent, market prices capitulate and fall except where they can
> leverage the value of exclusive design and designer prestige. 'Brand'
> manufacturers will increasingly take on the aspect of ateliers--design
> studios. The next Apple will be composed of a relative handful of people
> whose chief jobs are design, development, and the management of spimes with
> all production owned by someone else and local to the consumer. The next
> Ford or Toyota will assemble cars on demand at the dealership--maybe
> generic dealerships. (an overlooked impact of electric cars and the
> electric power train is their ability to radically drive the number of
> components in a car down. Tomorrow's car might have less than 100 parts and
> go together like a desktop PC!)
>
> So Capital is running out of things to do, the paradigm or money is
> failing, and the model Westphalian state is running out of people to tax,
> while, now evolved to accommodate Indus

[P2P-F] Fwd: Book "The End of the Beginning" finally published!

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Hi Anna,

I asked, following your question.

A reply from Ben ...

Cordially, Dante

-- Forwarded message --
From: Ben Goertzel 
Date: Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Book "The End of the Beginning" finally published!
To: gbr...@listserv.vub.ac.be


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
 wrote:
> after forwarding this message about the book, I was asked why there are
only
> men within the author list ?


Well, we made a web page for the book and sent out a bunch of emails
and social media announcements soliciting authors   Adult males
were the ones who responded by sending chapters   The author list
wasn't restricted to our chums, though many who responded were in fact
our chums...

I did make an effort to get geographical/cultural representation ...
but it happened that of the African and Asian transhumanists I
solicited, the ones who responded favorably and wanted to submit
chapters, were both young males...

So I think this really reduces to the question of why the overall
topic of the Singularity, transhumanism and advanced tech appeals to
men more than women  When I used to organize transhumanist
conferences, recruiting one or two good on-topic female speakers was
always something I had to explicitly strive for... I generally found
men more eager to push themselves forward and advertise themselves in
this way, than women...

(Note, I am simply being empirical in the above observations, not
making any hypotheses about the causes   But I note that when I
was working in psychology for a while in the 90s, things I organized
attracted a high proportion of females  So this doesn't seem to be
an artifact of my or Ted's personal styles, but more of the subject
area...)

-- Ben

-- Ben
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[P2P-F] Fwd: Book "The End of the Beginning" finally published!

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Excerpted :

It is  available for both purchase (
http://www.amazon.com/End-Beginning-Society-Economy-Singularity/dp/0692457666
)
and free download (http://humanityplus.org/projects/press/ ,
http://goertzel.org/End_of_the_Beginning_July_2015.pdf).

Amazon summary:

A deep, diverse edited volume addressing the most critical issues regarding
the future of humanity and intelligence -- with chapters authored by a
who's-who of leading futurist thinkers and doers.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Francis Heylighen" 
Date: 25 Aug 2015 14:21
Subject: Book "The End of the Beginning" finally published!
To: "Evolution, Complexity and Cognition group" ,

Cc:

Goertzel, B., & Goertzel, T. (2015). The End of the Beginning: Life,
Society and Economy on the Brink of the Singularity (1 edition). Humanity+
Press.


Here is the book to which several GBI members contributed with a number of
important papers. (It contains my "Return to Eden" paper, and also in-depth
contributions from Weaver, Viktoras, Clement,  and a number of well-known
futuristic thinkers such as Aubrey de Grey, Max More, Hugo de Garis and
Robin Hanson). Definitely worth reading and making publicity about, so
please pass this via your different channels!

It is  available for both purchase (
http://www.amazon.com/End-Beginning-Society-Economy-Singularity/dp/0
692457666)
and free download (http://humanityplus.org/projects/press/ ,
http://goertzel.org/End_of_the_Beginning_July_2015.pdf).

Amazon summary:

*A deep, diverse edited volume addressing the most critical issues
regarding the future of humanity and intelligence -- with chapters authored
by a who's-who of leading futurist thinkers and doers.*

According to Vernor Vinge, Ray Kurzweil and a rapidly increasing chorus of
techno-futurists, we are living on the brink of a technological Singularity
- a time when machines will become vastly more intelligent than humans. In
such a scenario, death, disease and everyday material scarcity will be
radically diminished, and life will be dramatically different in many other
ways.

But what will the path to this amazing future look like? How will human
life grow and unfold as technology advances and Singularity approaches? The
chapters in this book approach this issue from the perspectives of multiple
visionary authors from around the globe, covering topics such as the impact
of life extension, the future of money and exchange, the future of human
psychology, biological self-modification, intelligence enhancement,
automation and escalating unemployment, the possibility of global war
between pro and anti technology forces, the impact of future technology on
Asia and Africa, the emerging Global Brain, the future of surveillance and
privacy, and much more.

There are no easy or definite answers here - but lots of fascinating
questions to explore.
*CONTENTS*

   -   Chapter One:* Predicting the Age of Post-Human Intelligences*, by
   Ted Goertzel and Ben Goertzel
   -   Chapter Two:* A Tale of Two Transitions*, by Robin Hanson
   -   Chapter Three:* Longer Lives on the Brink of Global Population
   Contraction: A Report from 2040*, by Max More
   -   Chapter Four:* Implanting Post-Human Intelligence in Human Bodies*,
   by John Hewitt
   -Chapter Five:* The Singularity and the Methuselarity: Similarities
   and Differences*, by Aubrey de Grey
   -Chapter Six:* Robotics and AI: Impacts Felt on Every Aspect of Our
   Future World*, by Daryl Nazareth
   -Chapter Seven:* Robotics, AI, the Luddite Fallacy and the Future of
   the Job Market*, by Wayne Radinsky
   -Chapter Eight:* Moral Responsibility and Autonomous Machines*, by
   David Burke
   -Chapter Nine:* How Will the Artilect War Start?*, by Hugo de Garis
   -Chapter Ten:* Return to Eden? Promises and Perils on the Road to
   Global Superintelligence*, by Francis Heylighen
   -Chapter Eleven:* Distributing Cognition: From Local Brains to the
   Global Brain*, by Clément Vidal
   -Chapter Twelve:* A World of Views: A World of Interacting
   Post-human Intelligences*, by Viktoras Veitas and David Weinbaum
   (Weaver)
   -Chapter Thirteen:* Chinese Perspectives on the Approach to the
   Singularity*, by Mingyu Huang
   -Chapter Fourteen:* Africa Today and the Shadow of the Coming
   Singularity*, by Hruy Tsegaye
   -Chapter Fifteen:* The World's First Decentralized System for
   Financial and Legal Transaction*, by Chris Odom
   -Chapter Sixteen:* Beyond Money: Offer Networks, a Potential
   Infrastructure for a Post-Money Economy*, by Ben Goertzel
   -Chapter Seventeen:* Sousveillance and AGI*, by Ben Goertzel and
   Stephan Vladimir Bugaj
   -Chapter Eighteen:* The Future of Human Nature*, by Ben Goertzel
   -Chapter Nineteen:* Capitalism, Socialism, Singularitarianism*, by
   Ted Goertzel
   -Chapter Twenty:* Toward a Human-Friendly Post-Singularity World*,
   by Ben Goertzel
   -Chapter Twenty-one:* Looking Backward from 2100*, by Ben G

[P2P-F] DIY Grassroots P2P Grexit ? - 97 percent of money is electronic anyway

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

One of the arguments I remember that was put forward,
is that it would be too difficult to bring back / create the cash money
needed,
as the printing presses are now destroyed.

As 97 percent of the money we use is electronic ( in western europe ? ) ,
why not focus on creating electronic representations of currency.

Also, lets organize the interface with euros, if need be,
to reduce dependency on external trade.

If this scales, it can make a significant change to the politics imposed on
Greece and enable the current or future governments to be in a better
negotiation position.

Using existing software, we can also facilitate CCC ( commercial credit
circuits )
http://www.lietaer.com/2011/09/commercial-credit-circuit-c3/


///

Also see this article, about a greek island trying out a cryptocurrency

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21156/grexit-looms-greek-island-begins-testing-blockchain-based-parallel-currency/
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: [tapas] Varoufakis @ Guardian

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

A few years ago, one could already get the feeling of a will to further
concentrate power in the hands of a centralized set of European
Institutions , bypassing any ( even indirect ) democratic processes , for
example by enabling some institutions such as the European Commission to
finance itself directly ( without the need to depend on the member
countries ) via a tax on financial transactions.

Today it feels even more obvious that such will is manifesting itself ,
using the Greek situation to justify the creation of such centralization of
power.

Furthermore, interesting to realize that our last comments seem to be spot
on.

Excerpted from Varoufakis :

http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/07/21/europes-vindictive-privatization-plan-for-greece-project-syndicate/

*" ATHENS – On July 12, the summit of eurozone leaders dictated its terms
of surrender to Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, who, terrified by the
alternatives, accepted all of them. One of those terms concerned the
disposition of Greece’s remaining public assets.*


*Eurozone leaders demanded that Greek public assets be transferred to a
Treuhand-like fund – a fire-sale vehicle similar to the one used after the
fall of the Berlin Wall to privatize quickly, at great financial loss, and
with devastating effects on employment all of the vanishing East German
state’s public property. "*


On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes.   first make the greeks pay for risks taken by german and french (
> and other western ) banks by lending them money, not to circulate in the
> greek economy, but directly to pay off the banks
>
> ( 1 note that the cypriot approahc taken by the EU was also interesting :
> Siphoning bank accounts, especially those of russians having accounts
> there, to pay for such kind of debt )
>
> ( 2 with at some point 17,5 percent compound  interest on grek debt,
> equivalent to a doubling of the debt every three and a half / 3,5 years )
>
> then use this money , after it has been almost paid off, and after that a
> grexit crisis has been created, and that the new curency is devaluated, and
> the greek economy further in chambles,
>
> to then buy and privatise for pennies the rest of the greek economy,
> enabling a transfer of property,
>
> and further reducing any sovereignty
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Fabio Barone 
> wrote:
>
>> And that's what it seems to be to me: a shopping tour!
>>
>> The creditors just got scared when suddenly the game which the IMF always
>> plays - give money and ask for reforms which includes privatizing
>> practically everything - looked as if it wouldn't work this time, as the
>> Greek sovereign decided they wouldn't play this time.
>>
>> But with these later developments seems like it will all play out for
>> them anyway.
>>
>> 2015-07-11 5:28 GMT-05:00 Dante-Gabryell Monson :
>>
>>> Yes.   I suggest looking into the dynamics after the fall of the wall,
>>> and how western germany, and its corporations, pushed viable eastern
>>> german companies to bankruptcy, and bought over what they could for a
>>> fraction of their worth.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>> mic...@p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: Michel Bauwens 
>>>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [tapas] Varoufakis @ Guardian
>>>> To: "ta...@lists.p2pfoundation.net" 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2 things are revealing in this testament,
>>>>
>>>> one, the realistic assessment that it was never about repayment, but
>>>> about disciplining
>>>>
>>>> but second , and this is worse, Varoufakis mentions iraq, of all
>>>> places, as an example of a return to monetary sovereignty .. and not
>>>> argentina, iceland or the dozen positive historical examples mentioned by
>>>> ellen brown in her book, nor the current statistics showing european
>>>> countries outside the eurozone do generally better than those within it ..
>>>>
>>>> for me what this reveals is a left version of TINA, and explains why
>>>> Tsipras wants to give in so badly to the Troika blackmail, they do not see
>>>> a alternative themselves and that is a terrible realisation ...
>>>>
>>>> The proposed accord is an absolutely terrible program for permanent
>>>> enfeeblement of Greece, and as George P. suggested, for the planned
>>>> destruction of the SME economy ..
>>>&

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: [tapas] Varoufakis @ Guardian

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Yes.   I suggest looking into the dynamics after the fall of the wall,
and how western germany, and its corporations, pushed viable eastern german
companies to bankruptcy, and bought over what they could for a fraction of
their worth.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Michel Bauwens 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Michel Bauwens 
> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [tapas] Varoufakis @ Guardian
> To: "ta...@lists.p2pfoundation.net" 
>
>
> 2 things are revealing in this testament,
>
> one, the realistic assessment that it was never about repayment, but about
> disciplining
>
> but second , and this is worse, Varoufakis mentions iraq, of all places,
> as an example of a return to monetary sovereignty .. and not argentina,
> iceland or the dozen positive historical examples mentioned by ellen brown
> in her book, nor the current statistics showing european countries outside
> the eurozone do generally better than those within it ..
>
> for me what this reveals is a left version of TINA, and explains why
> Tsipras wants to give in so badly to the Troika blackmail, they do not see
> a alternative themselves and that is a terrible realisation ...
>
> The proposed accord is an absolutely terrible program for permanent
> enfeeblement of Greece, and as George P. suggested, for the planned
> destruction of the SME economy ..
>
> It brings home the possibility described in Kees van der Pijl's new book:
> The end of political compromise under capitalism ..
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 4:01 AM, John  wrote:
>
>> indeed...
>>
>> On 15-07-10 1:37 PM, George Papanikolaou wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/10/germany-greek-pain-debt-relief-grexit
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>
>
>
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[P2P-F] "Workshop on the Sharing Economy" ( Call for Papers - Utrecht University )

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://www.ecolise.eu/?p=577

*The Copernicus Institute of Sustainable Development, Utrecht University,
The Netherlands, has launched a call for papers for the first International
Workshop on the Sharing Economy on 4-5 June 2015.*

[image: utrecht]


In a strict sense, the sharing economy can be defined as consumers granting
each other (“peer-to-peer”) temporary access to their under-utilized
physical assets, possibly for money. In a broader sense, the sharing
economy also includes peer-to-peer services (Uber, Lending Club,
Taskrabbit, Helpling), product-service systems (Zipcar, Philips lighting)
and redistribution markets (eBay, freecycling groups on Facebook).

Along with its rapid growth, however, the sharing economy has also come
under fire. This criticism focuses in particular on unfair competition
between platforms and regular companies, overrated environmental gains, the
tendency towards monopoly and the erosion of workers’ rights. In sum,
sharing practices yield promises and problems, which only recently have
become subject of scientific research.

This workshop aims to bring together researchers from all disciplines and
regions to discuss scientific research on the sharing economy. *Send in
your full paper or extended abstract to k.fren...@uu.nl 
before March 15, 2015.*



..


http://www.uu.nl/en/events/first-international-workshop-on-the-sharing-economy

>From 4 June 2015 08:30 to 5 June 2015 17:30
First international workshop on the sharing economy

The sharing economy is a fast-growing phenomenon. People increasingly share
their home, car, clothing or tools on Internet platforms such as Airbnb,
Relayrides, BlaBlaCar and Peerby. In a strict sense, the sharing economy
can be defined as consumers granting each other (“peer-to-peer”) temporary
access to their under-utilized physical assets, possibly for money. In a
broader sense, the sharing economy also includes peer-to-peer services
(Uber, Lending Club, Taskrabbit, Helpling), product-service systems
(Zipcar, Philips lighting) and redistribution markets (eBay, freecycling
groups on Facebook) (Botsman and Rogers 2010).

Sharing practices are certainly not new, but the phenomenon is showing
explosive growth concomitant with the advent of Internet platforms. For
instance, Airbnb offers more than 1 million houses, Peerby has 100.000
members, and Uber is active in over 200 cities around the world. Sharing
potentially has a lot to offer to society: it promotes the efficient
utilization of physical assets, it reduces their environmental impact and
facilitates new social contacts. Along with its rapid growth, however, the
sharing economy has also come under fire. This criticism focuses in
particular on unfair competition between platforms and regular companies,
overrated environmental gains, the tendency towards monopoly and the
erosion of workers’ rights (Schor 2014; The Economist 2015). In sum,
sharing practices yield promises and problems, which only recently have
become subject of scientific research.

This workshop aims to bring together researchers from all disciplines and
regions to discuss scientific research on the sharing economy. Among the
questions are:

   - What theoretical perspectives (e.g., economics, sociology, geography,
   innovation studies) help to explain the nature and growth of the sharing
   economy?
   - What are the economic, social and environmental impacts of the sharing
   economy?
   - What are the business models in the sharing economy and why do some
   succeed and others do not?
   - What are the governance modes of platforms and why do some succeed and
   other do not?
   - How do sharing platforms disrupt existing industries?
   - How can peer-to-peer sharing in consumption be applied in a
   business-to-business context?
   - Why is sharing more popular in some industries and in some localities
   rather than in others?
   - What are the institutional responses across industries and across
   localities?
   - What are motivations and characteristics of sharing economy
   participants?
   - What do sharing practices mean for the new product design?
   - Is there a new role for consumers in the sharing economy?
   - What is the relationship between the sharing economy and
   sustainability transitions?
   - Are we observing fundamentally new ways of innovation in the sharing
   economy (open innovation, grassroots innovation, institutional
   entrepreneurship)?
   - Does the sharing economy prepare the way for new forms of capitalism?
   - How does sharing affect inequality in society?

Deadline

Send in your full paper or extended abstract (750-1000 words) to Koen
Frenken  before March 15, 2015. You will be notified about
acceptance before April 1st, 2015.
Keynotes

Juliet Schor (Boston College) and Susan Shaheen (UC Berkeley)
Scientific Committee

Koen Frenken (Utrecht University & Lund University),
Juliet Sc

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Smart Manufacturing ? - Industry 4.0 ( Wikipedia )

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Since it is a narrative supported by industry and the government,

it could give traction to other ( more distributed / p2p ) projects who in
some ways may overlap
( "adaptation and integration" , Semantic Technologies , ... ?  )

Such as people working in our networks around the development and usage of
Open Value Networks ?

http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Value_Network

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Michel Bauwens 
wrote:

>
> -- Forwarded message ------
> From: Dante-Gabryell Monson 
> Date: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM
> Subject: Smart Manufacturing ? - Industry 4.0 ( Wikipedia )
> To: "econow...@googlegroups.com" 
>
>
> Towards further automation ? ...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_4.0
>
> *Industry 4.0* is a project in the high-tech strategy of the German
> government <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_government>, which
> promotes the computerization
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Revolution> of the manufacturing
> industry.[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_4.0#cite_note-1> The
> goal is the intelligent factory <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory>
> (Smart Factory), which is characterized by adaptability, resource
> efficiency and ergonomics <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergonomics> as
> well as the integration of customers and business partners in business and
> value processes.[2]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_4.0#cite_note-2> [3]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_4.0#cite_note-3> Technological
> basis are cyber-physical systems
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-physical_system> and the Internet of
> Things <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_Things>.[4]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_4.0#cite_note-4>
>
> ...
> Some examples for Industry 4.0 are machines that predict failures and
> trigger maintenance processes autonomously or self-organized logistics that
> react to unexpected changes in the production.
>
>
>
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[P2P-F] Popular Education Coop's ? and p2p Cottage Post-Industry ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*Can we share collected links and experiences ?*



*Can be edited on this wiki pagehttp://sharewiki.org/en/Popular_Education
*


///

Can we *develop partnerships* with

French or Spanish Learning Coop's ,
Norwegian / Danish Folkhighschools,
and/or Swedish/German Folkuniversities,

*in an approach of popular education* ?

///

Can we do so by combining fixed infrastructure,
combined with "neo nomadic" infrastructures, practices, and seasonal
Temporary Autonomous Zones, including partnerships and concerted
organization around year long project preparation,
via existing festivals all over europe ?

Can we re-use experiences from, for example
http://wiki.tsolife.org/Tsolife/Main_Page

Building Routes along under-used ( european ) canals ?
Like a pilgrimage, for cyclists ?

Setting up groups in cities, for life transformation,
psychological mutual help in transitions,
and preparations for TAZ role playing games in summer times empowering
alternative economic experiments ?

///

Further links :

Popular Education :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_education

Danish / Norwegian :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_high_school

Swedish / German :
http://www.folkuniversitetet.se/In-English/International-Projects/

///

Some French popular education Coop's

http://www.scoplepave.org/les-autres-cooperatives-d-education-populaire
( for example : https://app.box.com/s/92wlkki0msulis7k38jl )

///

And also inspire ourselves from Mondragon ?
Who itself also includes practices from other places, such as from the
finnish Team Academy ...

Creating Learning Cooperatives :

http://mondragonteamacademy.com/?lang=en

///

While also inspiring ourselves from other projects, such as
Barefoot College ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_College

Or a hole in the wall / Minimally Invasive Education :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimally_invasive_education

///

Can these be in support of a post industrial cottage industry approach,
and the creation of its european ( logistical routes ) ?

http://p2pfoundation.net/Homebrew_Industrial_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putting-out_system#Cottage_industry
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[P2P-F] #PeerProduction License" Vs ( updating ? ) #GeoLibertarianism , #Mutualism , #Distributism , ...

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Synergies possible ?

Can, for example,
certain licenses such as forms of Peer Production Licenses
http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License

be adapted for forms of GeoLibertarianism ( or Mutualism, or Distributism ,
... )

in a way that updates the notion of commons, and income through labour
( knowledge as commons , automation, ... ? )

in some of these ideologies ( midst others ),
ideologies seem to have developed when production may have been more
dependent on land,
or when ( older notions of ? ) labour was still much more central to
production ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolibertarianism

*Geolibertarians consider land to be the common property
 of all humankind. They say
that private property is derived from an individual's right to the fruits
of their labor. Since land was not created by anyone's labor, it cannot be
rightfully owned. Thus, geolibertarians recognize a right to secure
possession of land (land tenure), on the condition that the full rental
value be paid to the community. This, they say, has the effect of both
giving back the value that belongs to the community and encouraging
landholders to only use as much land as they need, leaving unneeded land
for others.*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_%28economic_theory%29

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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Matriarchal Studies

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

r own sense of self.  This, I have found, is the most important and
> most difficult work to do -- on ourselves first, and then on our societal
> systems.  But much, much easier to do when done together, accepting and
> admitting to the hard work of that emotional re-learning and what level of
> vulnerability and care it demands in order to do well. Especially as it is
> completely deemed "foreign" and denigrated by all that is most "valued" as
> "strength" and dominance of the patriarchal models so deeply enforced.
>
> That is where "community" is most essential, and lived interactive
> presence in community the true test of these excavated truths.   Emotional
> honesty and emotional intelligence then become critical pre-requisites to
> do this work.
>
> So I deeply support your trying to do it, Dante-Gabryell and helping all
> of us too, over this still rather cold distance of internet "words" that
> miss the deepest, most important heart-to-heart communication that is its
> true countervailing form to heal that very taught cold distance and created
> alienation.
>
> In this I have found, the cognitive words mean very little compared to the
> actions in our lives and our greater world and with each other.
>
> So I do truly appreciate that and what you are trying to do here,
> June
> And do you ever get to London?  I still believe the most powerful
> conversations of learning this very thing are indeed inter-personal.   By
> very definition, that have to be done that way to be "heard" truly and
> coherently. :-)
>
>   --
>  *From:* Dante-Gabryell Monson 
> *To:* June Gorman ; P2P Foundation mailing
> list ; "econow...@googlegroups.com" <
> econow...@googlegroups.com>; "op-...@googlegroups.com" <
> op-...@googlegroups.com>
> *Cc:* leonard ferrari ; Tom Henfrey <
> t...@schumacherinstitute.org.uk>; Lisa Maroski 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Matriarchal Studies
>
> Thanks June for reacting.
>
> I personally find it very challenging, in societies in which I lived and
> grew up in, ruled by increasing monetization ( top down hierachical debt ),
> to live an approach based on sharing and contributing to a commons which
> includes matriarchal / nurturing patterns.
>
> My own experience, is that monetization is so strongly imposed (
> maintaining control ) for the access to any resource, including water ( and
> soon perhaps air ? ) , and the fear of lack of money so strong, that me,
> and other friends who want to live in such way, seem to most often end up
> rather marginalized from society, when intentionally deciding to reduce
> involvement in the priorities of such ideological system empowered through
> servicing of debt / the debt peonage.
>
> I personally look forward to reduce such debt peonage.
>
> Mere survival, in western europe ( that is, access to a one room flat, and
> not particularly high quality food ), easily costs 1000 euros a month.
> Most of this money goes straight as a tax to service debt , profits and
> interests.
>
> Strategies can be developed to reduce such costs, while increasing
> autonomy.   I believe a number of us revolving around p2pfoundation may be
> interested in such strategies , and the opening up and sharing of knowledge
> that can empower it.
>
> ///
>
> Various other concepts may be overlapping :
> certain forms of nomadism , festivalism (
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Festivalism ) , ...
>
> Finding ways to use the overproduction of our society, "hack" monetized
> speculation ...
>
> Nomadic forms of matriarchy ( and by this I do not mean controled by women
> ) can be a strategy for survival,
> once we can find others to share with, and create with, progressively
> reaching thresholds for critical diversity. (
> http://sharewiki.org/en/Emergent_Synthesis )
>
> ///
>
>
> Yet, we are not completely there yet.
>
> I notice there is alienation all around.
>
> I seem to have learned to feel confident about the internal referencing I
> developed, and suffer mostly from the loneliness it can produce ( combined
> with brief periods of more intense socialization ), I realize other friends
> seem to still be struggling with sociocultural pressures from their
> environments ( likely as they did not give up on mainstream environments )
>
> To be able to live by such intrinsically motivated approach, void of
> concerns regarding the debt peonage that threatens anyone to a ( silent and
> lonely ) death sentence,
>
> still seems to be an upper class privilege, or at the very least a middle
> class privilege, based o

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Matriarchal Studies

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

e current
concept of ( imposed ) debt

http://cashwiki.org/en/Debt_to_Intention

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/156YzIeH-eoYFl9nMzFxofQ55KVoksqusS0pYYL4WVaA/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g121aaf830_00

///

Potentials to use distributed approaches to linked data,
and explored by a variety of individuals and groups / projects :

https://github.com/assemblee-virtuelle/

https://github.com/open-app ( relating to enspiral / loomio )

https://github.com/automenta/netjs ( netention )

https://github.com/valnet/ ( NRP ? )

https://github.com/tav/ampify ( Espians ? )

https://github.com/willzeng/WikiNets ( Rhizi )

https://github.com/d-cent ( D-cent )

https://docs.openmustardseed.org/next-steps/source-code/ ( open mustardseed
)

///

Further recent brainstorming :

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/econowmix/buMYyTfcSCk/TP7stSUX4OQJ







On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:22 PM, June Gorman 
wrote:

> Thank you SO much for this Michel and especially Dante, who found this and
> shared this piece! As I truly believe this is an essential and critical
> discussion for any true transformation of a so deeply and aggressively
> imbalanced patriarchal society and world, and that the necessary emotional
> intelligence critical to getting back to any true "balance" or human and
> planet sustainability, has been broken and deeply damaged by that very
> left-brain, overly rationalized focus that obscures these issues.  And is
> so deeply reinforced by our educational system, which deepens this very
> imbalance.
>
> It's just a great piece, Dante but the key -- and I have found this to be
> the hardest for those trained well in cognitive displacement of inner heart
> "knowing" -- is to actually understand this emotionally, not just
> cognitively.  That's when actual human relationships are transformed, when
> we forge the paths of learning from each other that do not deny our
> different ways of understanding, but actually balances them so we can hear
> the gifts offered by that very "difference".  Over cultures and histories,
> as well as genders.
>
> Anyway, critical to deconstruct as it so often is the underlying root of
> much of the dissension and "will to power over others" that is taught at
> the root of patriarchy but not, as this piece suggests and all my
> historical work has found as well, at the "power with one another" model
> at the ground of matriarchy.
>
> The key is to teach that at the level it is most understood, the level of
> the emotional heart, critical to any successful parenting of any human life
> and ultimately the planet that supports that and all life.
>
> Just, "Thank you!"
>
> Warmly,
> June
>
> June Gorman, Educator and Educational Theorist
> Co-founder, Transformative Education Forum<http://www.tef-global.org/>
> Education Advisor, UN SafePlanet Campaign <http://www.safepla.net/>
> Board Project Director for Outreach, International Model United Nations
> Association<http://imuna.org/>
> Steering Committee, (UNESCO/Global Compact) K-12 Sector for Sustainability
> Education <http://www.uspartnership.org/main/view_archive/1>  )
> Member, UN Education Caucus for Sustainable Development
> Member, UN Commons Cluster
>
>   --
>  *From:* Michel Bauwens 
> *To:* p2p-foundation 
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:49 PM
> *Subject:* [P2P-F] Fwd: Matriarchal Studies
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Dante-Gabryell Monson* 
> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:54 PM
> Subject: Matriarchal Studies
> To: Michel Bauwens 
>
>
>
> http://www.hagia.de/en/matriarchy.html
>
> http://www.hagia.de/en/matriarchy/matriarchal-studies.html
>
> Matriarchy
> Matriarchies are not just a reversal of patriarchy, with women ruling over
> men – as the usual misinterpretation would have it. Matriarchies are
> mother-centered societies, they are based on *maternal values:*
> care-taking, nurturing, motherliness, which holds for everybody: for
> mothers and those who are not mothers, for women and men alike.
> Matriarchal societies are consciously built upon these maternal values and
> motherly work, and this is why they are much more realistic than
> patriarchies. They are, on principle, need-oriented. Their precepts aim to
> meet everyone’s needs with the greatest benefit. So, in matriarchies,
> mothering – which originates as a biological fact – is transformed into a 
> *cultural
> model.* This model is much more appropriate to the human condition than
> the way patriarchies conceptualise motherhood and use it to make women, and
> especially mothers, into slaves.
>
> The deep structure of “matriarchal society” (a structural definition):
>  With matriarchal cultures,

[P2P-F] Fwd: My review paper on Stigmergy

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francis Heylighen 
Date: Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Subject: My review paper on Stigmergy
To: "Evolution, Complexity and Cognition group" ,
Global Brain Discussion 


 Here is the paper on stigmergy I just sent to the editor of a book for
which it was invited. It is an update with some additional sections of an
older working paper.

It now provides a pretty clear and comprehensive review of the whole
stigmergy concept and its implications. It should provide a standard
reference on the topic, if anyone needs a good citation on stigmergy. It
will just be a while more before we have the detailed publication data.

That also means there will still be time to submit corrections, if need be:
so, if anyone has any feedback, please let me know!


Francis

--

Heylighen, F. (2015). Stigmergy as a Universal Coordination Mechanism:
components, varieties and applications. To appear in T. Lewis & L. Marsh
(Eds.),* Human Stigmergy: Theoretical Developments and New Applications*,
Studies in Applied Philosophy, Epistemology and Rational Ethics. Springer.
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/papers/stigmergy-varieties.pdf


*Abstract*: The concept of stigmergy has been used to analyze
self-organizing activities in an ever-widening range of domains, from
social insects via robotics and social media to human society. Yet, it is
still poorly understood, and as such its full power remains
underappreciated. The present paper clarifies the issue by defining
stigmergy as a mechanism of indirect coordination in which the trace left
by an action in a medium stimulates a subsequent action. It then analyses
the fundamental components of the definition: action, agent, medium, trace
and coordination. Stigmergy enables complex, coordinated activity without
any need for planning, control, communication, simultaneous presence, or
even mutual awareness. This makes the concept applicable to a very broad
variety of cases, from chemical reactions to individual cognition and
Internet-supported collaboration in Wikipedia.  The paper classifies
different varieties of stigmergy according to general aspects (number of
agents, scope, persistence, sematectonic vs. marker-based, and quantitative
vs. qualitative), while emphasizing the fundamental continuity between
these cases. This continuity can be understood from a non-linear,
self-organizing dynamic that lets more complex forms of coordination evolve
out of simpler ones. The paper concludes with two specifically human
applications in cognition and cooperation, suggesting that without
stigmergy these phenomena may never have evolved.

-- 


Francis Heylighen
Evolution, Complexity and Cognition group
Free University of Brussels
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/HEYL.html
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Re: [P2P-F] crazy idea

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

further presentations related to this project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd37-X56VsU#t=98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BHJspyh6s



On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Maja
>
> Fairphone sounds nice.
>
> Also, if I read it properly,
> the modular google/motorola phone planned for 2015
> aims at creating standards so that other companies can create modules that
> chip on the mainframe.
>
> Yet google/motorola would keep control on the mainframe... ( but not
> necessarily the additional modules ? )
>
> I can imagine open hardware Fairphone modules for such a modular approach ?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Maja van der Velden wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For those living in Europe, there is the Fairphone. The first edition of
>> this smartphone was produced through crowd-sourcing and shipped last
>> December/January. It is not yet a modular phone - but I think that one is
>> in the making. Only 25.000 Fairphones were produced in the first round.
>> Spare parts and a repair manual are available. The second round consists of
>> 35.000 Fairphones and the pre-sale starts in May.
>>
>> The Fairphone is fair in many different ways (free/open source software,
>> rootable, transparent pricing, non-conflict minerals, worker rights, ewaste
>> solution, double sim, replaceable battery, etc.). The philosophy behind
>> Fairphone is to have fewer mobile phones around, not more. Secondly, the
>> real goal is not just a fair mobile phone, but a circular economy. As a
>> Fairphone buyer, you become an investor in a workers welfare fund in China
>> and an e-waste project in Ghana.
>>
>> The Fairphone is not 100% fair and 100% perfect - but it is the best
>> available at the moment. All this and more can be read on the Fairphone
>> website/blog. Browse through the pages and blog entries - there is a lot of
>> interesting information.
>>
>> http://www.fairphone.com/
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Maja - a happy Fairphone owner
>>
>> On 11 Apr 2014, at 16:58 , Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> *Hi Fabio,*
>>
>> *potentially open hardware that can be compatible with this google backed
>> project ?*
>>
>> *There is an upcoming developer kit ?*
>>
>> *And developers conference ...*
>>
>>
>> http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/
>>
>> *" We are excited to announce the first Ara Developers Conference, to be
>> held April 15-16, 2014. The Developers Conference will be held at the
>> Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. Registration is
>> currently open to attend in person or online. Online attendees will be able
>> to view a live webstream and ask questions. "*
>>
>> http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/project-ara-developer-kit/
>>
>> " Google <http://mashable.com/category/google/> released its first set
>> of guidelines for developers hoping to participate in Project 
>> Ara<http://mashable.com/category/project-ara/>,
>> the company's platform for building modular smartphones. The first
>> version of Project Ara's Module Development Kit was released Wednesday. "
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1JzJadgHY
>>
>> based on this initial suggestion
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c
>>
>> ///
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>>
>> concept of having a single phone that you continuously upgrade over a
>> few years, rather than wastefully replace in its entirety, could soon be a
>> reality.
>> ...
>>
>> The initial target is to sell a barebones endoskeleton for $50 at
>> convenience stores. This phone will have a WiFi module, an emergency
>> battery... and that's it. To add more functionality, you would buy more
>> modules (a screen, camera, some NAND flash storage, cellular modem) and
>> slot them in. There will also be three sizes -- mini, medium, and jumbo --
>> with "jumbo" equating to roughly phablet sized. While Google intends to
>> open up the modules to third parties, the endoskeletons will always be
>> Google-branded. (They have to make their money somehow.) As it currently
>> stands, ATAP is hoping that the commercialized modules will be 4mm thick,
>> resulting in a phone that

Re: [P2P-F] crazy idea

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Maja

Fairphone sounds nice.

Also, if I read it properly,
the modular google/motorola phone planned for 2015
aims at creating standards so that other companies can create modules that
chip on the mainframe.

Yet google/motorola would keep control on the mainframe... ( but not
necessarily the additional modules ? )

I can imagine open hardware Fairphone modules for such a modular approach ?


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Maja van der Velden wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For those living in Europe, there is the Fairphone. The first edition of
> this smartphone was produced through crowd-sourcing and shipped last
> December/January. It is not yet a modular phone - but I think that one is
> in the making. Only 25.000 Fairphones were produced in the first round.
> Spare parts and a repair manual are available. The second round consists of
> 35.000 Fairphones and the pre-sale starts in May.
>
> The Fairphone is fair in many different ways (free/open source software,
> rootable, transparent pricing, non-conflict minerals, worker rights, ewaste
> solution, double sim, replaceable battery, etc.). The philosophy behind
> Fairphone is to have fewer mobile phones around, not more. Secondly, the
> real goal is not just a fair mobile phone, but a circular economy. As a
> Fairphone buyer, you become an investor in a workers welfare fund in China
> and an e-waste project in Ghana.
>
> The Fairphone is not 100% fair and 100% perfect - but it is the best
> available at the moment. All this and more can be read on the Fairphone
> website/blog. Browse through the pages and blog entries - there is a lot of
> interesting information.
>
> http://www.fairphone.com/
>
> Greetings,
>
> Maja - a happy Fairphone owner
>
> On 11 Apr 2014, at 16:58 , Dante-Gabryell Monson 
> wrote:
>
> *Hi Fabio,*
>
> *potentially open hardware that can be compatible with this google backed
> project ?*
>
> *There is an upcoming developer kit ?*
>
> *And developers conference ...*
>
>
> http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/
>
> *" We are excited to announce the first Ara Developers Conference, to be
> held April 15-16, 2014. The Developers Conference will be held at the
> Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. Registration is
> currently open to attend in person or online. Online attendees will be able
> to view a live webstream and ask questions. "*
>
> http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/project-ara-developer-kit/
>
> " Google <http://mashable.com/category/google/> released its first set of
> guidelines for developers hoping to participate in Project 
> Ara<http://mashable.com/category/project-ara/>,
> the company's platform for building modular smartphones. The first
> version of Project Ara's Module Development Kit was released Wednesday. "
>
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1JzJadgHY
>
> based on this initial suggestion
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c
>
> ///
>
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>
> concept of having a single phone that you continuously upgrade over a few
> years, rather than wastefully replace in its entirety, could soon be a
> reality.
> ...
>
> The initial target is to sell a barebones endoskeleton for $50 at
> convenience stores. This phone will have a WiFi module, an emergency
> battery... and that's it. To add more functionality, you would buy more
> modules (a screen, camera, some NAND flash storage, cellular modem) and
> slot them in. There will also be three sizes -- mini, medium, and jumbo --
> with "jumbo" equating to roughly phablet sized. While Google intends to
> open up the modules to third parties, the endoskeletons will always be
> Google-branded. (They have to make their money somehow.) As it currently
> stands, ATAP is hoping that the commercialized modules will be 4mm thick,
> resulting in a phone that is 10mm thick.
>
>
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/169767-motorola-and-google-unveil-upgradeable-modular-smartphone-platform
>
> For Project Ara, Motorola (now owned by 
> Google<http://www.extremetech.com/computing/92786-google-buys-motorola-begins-transformation-into-apple>)
> teamed up with Dave Hakkens, the creator of 
> Phonebloks<http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/166570-phonebloks-modular-upgradeable-smartphones>.
> Phonebloks were a concept for how you might possibly create a modular
> smartphone -- but it was very much just a concept, without much
> consideration of the physical, commercial,

Re: [P2P-F] crazy idea

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Google / Motorola backed modular ( open ? ) phone hardware

http://www.projectara.com/mdk/

https://plus.google.com/+GoogleATAP/posts/FmJ9Qb7Cqsw

Announcing the Project Ara MDK v0.10

Today we're announcing the first release of the Project Ara Module
Developers Kit (MDK) v0.10. You can download the release at
projectara.com/mdk/. This is a very early version but our goals are to give
the developer community an opportunity to provide feedback and input, and
to help us ensure that the final MDK--anticipated at the end of 2014--is
elegant, flexible, and complete.

Next week, we're hosting the first Project Ara Developers Conference at the
Computer History Museum in Mountain View. We invite developers to attend in
person (projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/) and provide feedback and
input on the MDK. An online livestream option is also available.
Registration closes tomorrow. Also, we're kicking off the Project Ara
Module Developers forum and mailing list--check it out.

We look forward to your feedback!

Paul Eremenko, Head, Project Ara




> [image: Project Ara: Modular smartphone]
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *Hi Fabio,*
>>
>> *potentially open hardware that can be compatible with this google backed
>> project ?*
>>
>> *There is an upcoming developer kit ?*
>>
>> *And developers conference ...*
>>
>>
>> http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/
>>
>> *" We are excited to announce the first Ara Developers Conference, to be
>> held April 15-16, 2014. The Developers Conference will be held at the
>> Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. Registration is
>> currently open to attend in person or online. Online attendees will be able
>> to view a live webstream and ask questions. "*
>>
>> http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/project-ara-developer-kit/
>>
>> " Google <http://mashable.com/category/google/> released its first set
>> of guidelines for developers hoping to participate in Project 
>> Ara<http://mashable.com/category/project-ara/>,
>> the company's platform for building modular smartphones. The first
>> version of Project Ara's Module Development Kit was released Wednesday. "
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1JzJadgHY
>>
>> based on this initial suggestion
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c
>>
>> ///
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50
>>
>> concept of having a single phone that you continuously upgrade over a
>> few years, rather than wastefully replace in its entirety, could soon be a
>> reality.
>> ...
>>
>> The initial target is to sell a barebones endoskeleton for $50 at
>> convenience stores. This phone will have a WiFi module, an emergency
>> battery... and that's it. To add more functionality, you would buy more
>> modules (a screen, camera, some NAND flash storage, cellular modem) and
>> slot them in. There will also be three sizes -- mini, medium, and jumbo --
>> with "jumbo" equating to roughly phablet sized. While Google intends to
>> open up the modules to third parties, the endoskeletons will always be
>> Google-branded. (They have to make their money somehow.) As it currently
>> stands, ATAP is hoping that the commercialized modules will be 4mm thick,
>> resulting in a phone that is 10mm thick.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/169767-motorola-and-google-unveil-upgradeable-modular-smartphone-platform
>>
>> For Project Ara, Motorola (now owned by 
>> Google<http://www.extremetech.com/computing/92786-google-buys-motorola-begins-transformation-into-apple>)
>> teamed up with Dave Hakkens, the creator of 
>> Phonebloks<http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/166570-phonebloks-modular-upgradeable-smartphones>.
>> Phonebloks were a concept for how you might possibly create a modular
>> smartphone -- but it was very much just a concept, without much
>> consideration of the physical, commercial, or legal constraints. Motorola's
>> Project Ara, on the other hand, appears to be more firmly seated in reality.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Fabio Barone wrote:
>>
>>> I just watched the following video about smartphones and their human
>>> cost.
>>> Warning, it's shocking.
>>>
&

Re: [P2P-F] crazy idea

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*Hi Fabio,*

*potentially open hardware that can be compatible with this google backed
project ?*

*There is an upcoming developer kit ?*

*And developers conference ...*


http://www.projectara.com/ara-developers-conference/

*" We are excited to announce the first Ara Developers Conference, to be
held April 15-16, 2014. The Developers Conference will be held at the
Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. Registration is
currently open to attend in person or online. Online attendees will be able
to view a live webstream and ask questions. "*

http://mashable.com/2014/04/10/project-ara-developer-kit/

" Google  released its first set of
guidelines for developers hoping to participate in Project
Ara,
the company's platform for building modular smartphones. The first version
of Project Ara's Module Development Kit was released Wednesday. "

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1JzJadgHY

based on this initial suggestion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAw7vW7H0c

///

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/177708-googles-modular-smartphone-project-ara-could-go-on-sale-next-year-for-50

concept of having a single phone that you continuously upgrade over a few
years, rather than wastefully replace in its entirety, could soon be a
reality.
...

The initial target is to sell a barebones endoskeleton for $50 at
convenience stores. This phone will have a WiFi module, an emergency
battery... and that's it. To add more functionality, you would buy more
modules (a screen, camera, some NAND flash storage, cellular modem) and
slot them in. There will also be three sizes -- mini, medium, and jumbo --
with "jumbo" equating to roughly phablet sized. While Google intends to
open up the modules to third parties, the endoskeletons will always be
Google-branded. (They have to make their money somehow.) As it currently
stands, ATAP is hoping that the commercialized modules will be 4mm thick,
resulting in a phone that is 10mm thick.


http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/169767-motorola-and-google-unveil-upgradeable-modular-smartphone-platform

For Project Ara, Motorola (now owned by
Google)
teamed up with Dave Hakkens, the creator of
Phonebloks.
Phonebloks were a concept for how you might possibly create a modular
smartphone -- but it was very much just a concept, without much
consideration of the physical, commercial, or legal constraints. Motorola's
Project Ara, on the other hand, appears to be more firmly seated in reality.


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Fabio Barone  wrote:

> I just watched the following video about smartphones and their human cost.
> Warning, it's shocking.
>
>
> http://sharepowered.com/see-the-human-cost-of-your-iphone-and-it-will-shock-you/#
>
> I wondered,
>
> how feasible is it to:
> - create a global professionally managed p2p brand (here: for smartphones,
> e.g. urphone.net)
> - fabricate "clean" (whatever is possible here) smart phones in regional
> fablabs or even hackerspaces under that brand
> - profits shared all over the brand
>
> I apologize for my impulsive post,
> it may be pure nonsense,
> but I wonder
>
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Paracity Article

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

I guess Matias ( and co ? ) may be on this list too.

I vaguely remember some similar kind of approach he studied for Mumbai
informal settlements,
some kind of scaffolding approach ?

I also remember Eric Hunting sharing, in some past conversations, links to
a ( japanese ? ) assembly system ? ( sorry for being vague, links get lost
in volume of information )

///

A Paper by Matias Echanove

http://www.mmg.mpg.de/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/wp/WP_13-13_Echanove.pdf

*This essay looks at the theoretical meaning and practical implications of
a much used and abused notion in urban planning and development circles,
that of 'informal** settlements'.*

more :

http://urbz.net/

http://urbanology.org/

///

Also, regarding construction with ( pre fabricated ) modules, since
plumbing is being mentioned, although more traditional / centralized / less
participative ,
I noticed
http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2013/02/features/high-speed-high-rise




On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Fabio Barone  wrote:

> While I see the idea of paracity very interesting,
> a few questions arise:
>
> - How will water and sewage be organized? It seems it's up to the
> "occupants" to deal with
> - It will result in a maze of stairs and access ways. Could be
> fun/beautiful, but maybe difficult?
> - Would it not result in a lot of dark spaces inside the cube?
>
> But most importantly, I am interested in shedding light on this question:
> - How can "organic" "p2p" "evolvable" "adaptable" city spaces be created
> where there are no star-architects involved
> or where no favorable city-planners are around?
>
> I mean sort of a bunch of individuals decide they want to create such a
> structure (let's for simplicity sake assume they have some basic funds for
> that...).
>
> I know that especially in Europe industrial areas in neglect / disuse
> could serve this perfectly.
> How about cities in Latin America, Asia or Africa, where these spaces are
> not abundant
> (that's where production takes place...)
>
>
> 2014-03-16 14:43 GMT-05:00 Michel Bauwens :
>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Eric Hunting 
>> Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM
>> Subject: Paracity Article
>> To: Michel Bauwens 
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's my attempt at a short article introducing the Paracity project.
>> Let me know if you think it's useful.
>>
>> Eric Hunting
>> erichunt...@gmail.com
>>
>> Paracity -- An Urban Organism
>>
>> http://casagrandetext.blogspot.fi/2014/03/paracity.html
>>
>> Paracity is a new project of Marco Casagrande which promises to be one of
>> the first full scale demonstrations of a practical peer-to-peer urbanism.
>> Taking advantage of a unique situation on the Danshui River Island in
>> Taipei, Paracity explores a notion of positive urban parasitism, using a
>> novel, freely adaptive, modular, volumetric structural skeleton serving as
>> an urban 'backplane' that can subsume otherwise neglected/devalued urban
>> environments, in this particular case an area prone to frequent flooding.
>> Based on a fairly large span cubic structural grid made of cross-laminated
>> timber, this backplane accommodates adaptation and habitation by retrofit,
>> allowing for several possible tiers of social participation in the habitat
>> from the high-level peer-managed deployment of the backplane structure and
>> its key infrastructure elements to the more spontaneous and personalized
>> retrofit deployment of individual dwellings, industry, and commerce. Here
>> we see a totally evolvable urban habitat able to almost spontaneously
>> accommodate any potential change in situation, environmental conditions,
>> urban and domestic technology, and baseline standard of living without the
>> strife associated with an anachronistic presumption of architectural
>> permanence leading to ready obsolescence. This is 'city' as a verb. A
>> freely evolvable urban organism with a declared evolutionary imperative of
>> transitioning older urban habitats toward sustainable integration with the
>> natural environment. A Post-Industrial habitat growing on the compost of
>> Industrial Age urbanism.
>>
>> I find this project concept quite exciting because it incorporates many
>> concepts I have been proposing and exploring for a long time. This is an
>> urban development concept based on truly 21st century sensibilities,
>> questioning the dominant presumptions about property, space, the role of
>> architecture, and the role of inhabitants as creators and managers of their
>> own habitat that characterize the inherent dysfunctions of contemporary
>> cities. I have always wondered why cities are not designed with the
>> practical sensibility of the network/data center--with a recognition of the
>> simple reality that they persist as an application--an activity--in a
>> constantly changing medium of hardware and technology. We are no longer
>> limited by primitive construction technology with no means to adapt. Why
>> then are cities commonly, physicall

[P2P-F] Fwd: Please save the Internet

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

You can post to Parliamentarians :

http://savetheinternet.eu/

http://savetheinternet.eu/#act

https://www.laquadrature.net/en/eu-parliament-negotiations-on-net-neutrality-taking-a-disastrous-turn

especially the Italian and Greek MEP's who may be moving in a direction of
limiting internet neutrality ?

Example of email sent ( feel free to copy, and repost, while signing with
your own name at the end of the message )


-- Forwarded message --
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson 
Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:41 AM
Subject: Please save the Internet
To: dimitrios.drout...@europarl.europa.eu


Dear Dimitrios Droutsas,

The decisions that you and your colleagues will make this week will have a
lasting impact on the open internet in Europe. It's critical to get this
right and not accept bad compromises.

The Commission's current proposal on a "Telecoms Single Market" includes
provisions undermining network neutrality by permitting pervasive networks
discrimination, to the detriment of user rights and the single market.

As a first step, ITRE members must remove the current definition of
"specialized services", closing a dangerous loophole that would create a
two-tiered internet, strangling online innovation, competition, diversity,
and the exercise of human rights on the internet.

I urge you to adopt the robust definition of "network neutrality" put
forward by the CULT committee, one that ensures that internet providers do
not block or discriminate against content, websites, applications, or
services; that online innovation isn't stifled; that anti-competitive
practices don't flourish.

Finally, while some progress in the ITRE Committee has been made, it is
critical that members stand their ground and address the remaining
problematic issues in the Rapporteur's compromise amendments. A compromise
that allows a few loopholes that destroy the open internet instead of many
loopholes that would destroy the open internet is not an acceptable
compromise.

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Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR8hfUkmk6Q   ( 7 minute video excerpt )
Noam Chomsky explains how the education system works.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11u3vtcpaY
>
> *When 13 year-old Logan LaPlante grows up, he wants to be happy and
> healthy. He discusses how hacking his education is helping him achieve this
> goal. *
>
> *note : found via Franz N. fb*
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> interesting thread - thanks to all
>>
>> personal note - I hope your actions can evolve towards , or include
>> awareness and support for :
>>
>> *" uncommodified, unmanaged, and uncurricularized "*
>>
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Against_the_Professional_Cooptation_of_Community
>>
>> hence using institutions for de-institutionalization :
>> non monetized, self organized ( and open sourced ), non credentialized.
>>
>> potentially some examples, in addition to informal learning we experience
>> in our daily lives
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_College
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqqVwM6bMM
>>
>> and
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimally_invasive_education
>> such as ( when using ICT )
>> http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps8MwyJH8Zo
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks8D3WE-PbM
>>
>>
>> Personally, I am interested in converging tribes, into ( semi ? ) neo
>> nomadic tribes,
>> even if only for a specific time and specific space,
>> for socially and environmentally regenerative participatory action
>> research
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_action_research
>>
>> I spent years hitch hiking, money-less, or almost money-less,
>> and realize a home / base to return to is important.
>>
>> I hope the following space will become a reality, and a starting point
>> for leveraging such approaches
>>
>> http://sharewiki.org/en/Antwerp_Collective
>>
>> I wish to encourage such approaches, or find ways to find overlap, with
>> cooperative institutions,
>>
>> and enable scalability by supporting modular and open source parametric
>> nomadic solutions and infrastructures :
>> http://sharewiki.org/en/Spime_Housing
>>
>> and rapidly spread out such approach in most of the world, regardless of
>> land ownership, money, or credentials,
>>
>> and in support of emergent collective intelligence and the commons.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Joss Winn  wrote:
>>
>>> Joe, Sam, Michel, Wouter,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your replies to my initial email about co-operative
>>> universities.
>>>
>>> http://josswinn.org/2013/12/co-operative-principles-in-higher-education/
>>>
>>> At that link are my notes from the seminar held in London this week. For
>>> further updates, you can subscribe to my blog (email/RSS) and I will try
>>> to document notable developments in this area. See also:
>>> http://coopuni.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>> We, at Lincoln, are in the process of organising a workshop early next
>>> year and probably an edited book on alternative higher education, so
>>> those
>>> are two ways that we might collaborate on this. In the meantime, a Skype
>>> chat sometime early next year is always possible. I’d love to hear your
>>> thoughts on this and about any related work you’re doing.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joss
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2013 18:24, "Joe Corneli"  wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hi Joss:
>>> >
>>> >there's likely to be interest in "Human Capabilities and Open
>>> >Learning" branch of FLOK project (research leads of which copied in
>>> >here).  I'm also interested, and meaning to talk with them and you
>>> >about Peeragogy (peeragogy.org).  Sorry I couldn't make that time in
>>> >London, but if there are further discussions I may be able to join.
>>> >
>>> >Joe
>>> >
>>> >PS.  The FLOK info:
>>> >
>>> >«This research stream will focus on institutional support for capacity
>>> >building with a special focus on open learning and community driven
>>> >collaboration. Within this research stream, learning is viewed as a
>>> >pillar of de

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11u3vtcpaY

*When 13 year-old Logan LaPlante grows up, he wants to be happy and
healthy. He discusses how hacking his education is helping him achieve this
goal. *

*note : found via Franz N. fb*


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> interesting thread - thanks to all
>
> personal note - I hope your actions can evolve towards , or include
> awareness and support for :
>
> *" uncommodified, unmanaged, and uncurricularized "*
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Against_the_Professional_Cooptation_of_Community
>
> hence using institutions for de-institutionalization :
> non monetized, self organized ( and open sourced ), non credentialized.
>
> potentially some examples, in addition to informal learning we experience
> in our daily lives
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_College
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqqVwM6bMM
>
> and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimally_invasive_education
> such as ( when using ICT )
> http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps8MwyJH8Zo
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks8D3WE-PbM
>
>
> Personally, I am interested in converging tribes, into ( semi ? ) neo
> nomadic tribes,
> even if only for a specific time and specific space,
> for socially and environmentally regenerative participatory action research
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_action_research
>
> I spent years hitch hiking, money-less, or almost money-less,
> and realize a home / base to return to is important.
>
> I hope the following space will become a reality, and a starting point for
> leveraging such approaches
>
> http://sharewiki.org/en/Antwerp_Collective
>
> I wish to encourage such approaches, or find ways to find overlap, with
> cooperative institutions,
>
> and enable scalability by supporting modular and open source parametric
> nomadic solutions and infrastructures :
> http://sharewiki.org/en/Spime_Housing
>
> and rapidly spread out such approach in most of the world, regardless of
> land ownership, money, or credentials,
>
> and in support of emergent collective intelligence and the commons.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Joss Winn  wrote:
>
>> Joe, Sam, Michel, Wouter,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your replies to my initial email about co-operative
>> universities.
>>
>> http://josswinn.org/2013/12/co-operative-principles-in-higher-education/
>>
>> At that link are my notes from the seminar held in London this week. For
>> further updates, you can subscribe to my blog (email/RSS) and I will try
>> to document notable developments in this area. See also:
>> http://coopuni.wordpress.com/
>>
>> We, at Lincoln, are in the process of organising a workshop early next
>> year and probably an edited book on alternative higher education, so those
>> are two ways that we might collaborate on this. In the meantime, a Skype
>> chat sometime early next year is always possible. I’d love to hear your
>> thoughts on this and about any related work you’re doing.
>>
>> Best,
>> Joss
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/2013 18:24, "Joe Corneli"  wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Joss:
>> >
>> >there's likely to be interest in "Human Capabilities and Open
>> >Learning" branch of FLOK project (research leads of which copied in
>> >here).  I'm also interested, and meaning to talk with them and you
>> >about Peeragogy (peeragogy.org).  Sorry I couldn't make that time in
>> >London, but if there are further discussions I may be able to join.
>> >
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >PS.  The FLOK info:
>> >
>> >«This research stream will focus on institutional support for capacity
>> >building with a special focus on open learning and community driven
>> >collaboration. Within this research stream, learning is viewed as a
>> >pillar of development and growth in the context of a broad transition
>> >to a social economy that embodies reciprocity and commons-based value
>> >creation. This includes a particular stress on active public policies
>> >that respond to growing social challenges facing Ecuadorean society.
>> >Beyond conventional systems of learning and education that might
>> >depend upon closed proprietary structures, this research will utilize
>> >commons-based learning networks to harness open science and open
>> >educational resources (OER). Perhaps most importantly, this includes a
>> >broad interest in advancing the public good through partneri

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University (Hoeschele, Wolfgang)

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

note : copied it here :

http://sharewiki.org/en/Emergent_Synthesis#More_Email_Archives


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> Thank you for sharing your 
> article<http://www.scribd.com/doc/49712621/Making-Place-for-Abundance>- it 
> overlaps with approaches I like to take.
>
> I see a number of potentially overlapping and emergent "layers".
> I like to hear from other people's dreams or personal experiences.
>
> I see the potential for an understanding of distribution / aggregation
> layers, mutually empowering each other in an emergent way, building up
> critical diversity for further emergence, resilience, and ( ideally ? )
> viable systems.
>
> I ll be happy to map out our non linear understanding. ( a mapping tool
> where we can export our data ? )
>
>
> *// in advance, apologies to Silke - this will be a long post with a lot
> of links //*
>
>
> Some layers I experiment(ed) with , followed by a few projects.
>
> I want to talk about Nomadism, as it embodies imho an understanding of
> distributed systems - understanding I wish to use even when not moving (
> geographically ).
>
> I see *layers of distribution and aggregation mutually empowering each
> other in an emergent way.*
>
> Short, medium and long term approaches , and resilience through their
> overlap, can also be taken into account.
>
> I want to bring forward potentials for synergies and emergence ( based on
> "critical diversity" ? ), and using Integral 
> City<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_City>and some research ( if one 
> can call this research ? ) I did or am doing, to
> compare or apply it to.
>
> ///
>
>
>
> *- Nomadism :*
>
> *- it can imho be translated into the experience many more have, for
> example at a city scale , or also via "seminar hopping" lifestyles , movie
> production lifestyles, etc  -*
>
> talking from personal experience
> of a type of nomadism based on a low ( monetary ) threshold ( hitch hiking
> ).
>
> I would aim at experiencing a flow of temporary autonomous zones ( often
> events ), hitch hiking from the one to another, taking into consideration a
> "logistics of options" to direct myself across europe. ( moving east or
> west, north or south, depending on how events may seem to empower more
> options for intentional convergence and supporting needs at later stages )
>
> I am glad Wolfgang mentioned "non places".  Much of the time was spent
> crossing "non places", moving towards aggregators where, for a moment, some
> shared "warmth" could be experienced.
>
> Nomadism ( especially moneyless , or almost moneyless )  , in my view,
> embodies *an experienced understanding of a distributed system of
> distributed systems* : hitch hiking as intentional distributed system -
> used as a layer to facilitate access to - ... hospitality as a distributed
> system - being hosted for a limited amount of time - ... which can empower
> meeting people, which itself can lead to events , to shared learning,
> distributed information networks, etc ...  each of these potentially
> empowering distributed intentional "tribes".
>
> Such social capital constantly being worked on - if not, the energy imho
> dissipates over time.
>
> Such understanding of nomadism ( / of distributed approaches ) can be
> applied within more specific geographical environments, such as a
> particular city itself.
> I guess others wrote about this ... ( Negri, Hardt, ... )
>
> I personally like the contents of this site :
> http://nomadology.com/
>
> It is important , imho, to reduce "empty places" and time ... as to make
> it viable.Focusing on places where there is a higher density and
> diversity of mutually empowering potentials, that can , even if one uses a
> temporary autonomous approach, further feed other processes and enable a
> continuity of flow.
>
> This is some of my shared experience of too much "spreading out" :
>
> http://sharewiki.org/en/Beyond_Road_Burn_Out
>
> http://hitchwiki.org/en/Aimless_trajectory
>
>
> Convergence may be possible in cities - yet the cost of space , in
> monetary terms, or of securing access to space ( if one squats ) is often
> very high, itself leading people to allocate their time to service such
> monetary cost, reducing availability, and increasing the potential for
> "empty places" ... or "empty social places", as people are "too busy" ...
>
> Finding distributed approaches to use such spaces and generate spaces on
> top of existing infrastructure , as to conve

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University (Hoeschele, Wolfgang)

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

creases, etc

In such kind of context, I also see the potential for some of the
approaches expressed earlier on ,

using the potential of massive amounts of vacant space ( for example : over
2 million square meters of empty office space )

to generate temporary contracts where temporary structures ( furnitecture /
urban pop up villages ) can be set up, as some form of temporary living.

For example in Brussels :
http://www.annedoloresmarcelis.com/index.php?/camping-town/

Various subcultures can / are converging and overlapping, with each having
high turnovers, or people keeping a base while living nomadic lifestyles -
for example dancer networks, theatre networks, but also all kinds of
students, people doing internships, people on short term contracts for
international institutions or businesses, etc

The environment itself can generate new layers and opportunities.

Beyond reducing costs / increasing quality of life with limited monetary
income via a sharing economy approach,

it can be about generating conviviality , liberating time by reducing
costs, and increasing potential for interactions around shared intentions
or interests.

Freed time opens up potential for participatory action research and
learning.

Approaches that combine subcultures and generations can also be adopted.
It can be an evolution from the "co-living" approaches which have permeated
into many urban living / social practices.

In effect, such types of temporary spaces generating defacto "free schools",
some of them leading to "project incubation"

Also see :

http://opendoor.io/  --> projects

///

I wanted to generate such spaces for a number of years,

yet I realize that a more specific and easily understood narrative is
needed to enable shared intentional engagement.

A narrative for a "school" can be an example of a way to bootstrap such
engagement.   Incubators , coworking spaces , or even, in the countryside,
permaculture or construction / renovation projects can all be narratives
attracting people for a certain period of time.

Yet often there needs to be a "spark", and the threshold for such spark
often requires a minimum of resources ... which itself already requires
engagement.

Although I shared this link earlier on , also see :

http://emergentbydesign.com/2012/01/08/93-superhero-schools-collaboratories-incubators-accelerators-hubs-for-social-tech-innovation/

///

Convergences such as
http://bwcd.vdcn.org/doku.php

seem to already be a filter for those ready to engage in setting such
prototypes...   hopefully building on the experience of past "communes",
but hopefully also enabling neo nomadic / distributed overlap, as explained
in this mail.



On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Hoeschele, Wolfgang wrote:

> Thank you for your thoughts, Anna, Dante, Wouter!
>
> Something that I wrote that resonates with what you are saying, Dante, is
> here:
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/49712621/Making-Place-for-Abundance
>
> And of course, at the Commons Abundance Network, we are seeking to provide
> links to any initiatives of the types that you mentioned, and develop our
> network as a virtual collaboration space to help such things develop. The
> more networking there is among such initiatives, both online and in actual
> places, the more they will be able to coalesce into real alternatives.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: commoning-boun...@listen.jpberlin.de on behalf of Wouter Tebbens
> Sent: Fri 12/27/2013 4:54 PM
> To: Dante-Gabryell Monson
> Cc: common...@listen.jpberlin.de
> Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] The Co-operative University (Hoeschele,
> Wolfgang) (Hoeschele, Wolfgang)
>
> Dante,
>
> I love the idea of such "uncompromised temple". It would be a reference
> site where so many free/libre/open/commons-governed/knowledge initiatives
> would come together.
>
> Ideally it would be in a bottom-up organised country. And it would of
> course be a node in the distributed network of already existing nodes.
>
> Some would spend more time their while others, even with a longtime
> commitment, would only come there physically from time to time. Teachers,
> learners of all disciplines would join in special sharing sessions to
> construct collective knowledge and common projects.
>
> As you say, if such initiative can be seen as a kind of insurance, it will
> be easier for some to invest/contribute. The transition is probably not
> going to be easy for many people, so assuring some basics would be helpful.
>
> I need to continue other conversations right now, but the ideas discussed
> here have my interest. Thanks and best wishes for sustainable and solidary
> systems.
>
> Best
> Wouter
>
> Dante-Gabryell Monson  escribió:
>
> >___
> >

Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Hi Brent,

there is some convergence happening via

http://bwcd.vdcn.org/doku.php

*" Let's get some cool people together and live in a tribe / family / team
/ intentional community. Experiment with better ways to live, and make the
world a cooler place. We'll work together to survive and look after each
other. "*

Email :

http://bwcd.vdcn.org/doku.php/email_list

///

Further approaches can be discussed there ?





On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Michel Bauwens
wrote:

> hi Brent, I have aggregated the wide variety of open business models at
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Business_Models
>
> not only are there solutions, but there are plenty of solutions, the key
> question is of course finding the one that fits with your particular
> project ...
>
> but the general scheme, building a community around a commons, and create
> a market entity around it (such as a coop), works well
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Brent Shambaugh <
> brent.shamba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Since around mid-march or so I've spent time trying to refining the ideas
>> from my Distributed Economy blog (
>> http://www.adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/) into a proposal. I kind of
>> felt like I was teaching myself all of computer science. Even though I felt
>> I was learning quite a bit, it came at a considerable cost to myself. It is
>> hard to think in a peer-to-peer fashion while questioning the fabric of
>> academia and industry. I felt that I did not fit in anywhere and was unsure
>> build a business model around it. Physically, it seemed that way too. I
>> also became very cynical. I grew isolated, but thought I needed time for
>> self-study so what I was writing was credible, competitive and lucid enough
>> that I could put faith in it to be confident with others. Still, it's scope
>> was huge, enough to be not taken seriously by itself I guess. I felt I
>> basically was trying to change the operating system of the planet, and
>> everything else was built on top of that (businesses, academia, etc...).
>> Was the value network the business model? That, and maybe support? Do I
>> just try to start something like Linux and hope for the best? That's the
>> sort of scale I was envisioning. Fortunately, the web efforts have done a
>> lot of the groundwork. It's more of a use then. It's hard to say I did much
>> beyond understanding and some aggregation of connections that others might
>> not have seen. People tell you to hold on to some things in private, while
>> at the same time you want to integrate with the rest of the community.
>> Maybe what I have is significant, maybe it is not. It would be great to
>> share it. I believe enough in it to think it could help people. I'm almost
>> done with what seems to resemble a 20 page outline. I do not want to
>> fragment the community (or be fragmented from it), but at the same time I
>> need some sustainable way to survive. Paradoxically, it seems it needs the
>> support and the efforts and the ideas of the community to succeed. Are
>> there any solutions? I'm sorry if I come off as arrogant in any way.
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Eric
>>>
>>> Yes, I'd be glad to follow up on the thinking and research you are doing
>>> around metacurrency, and participate in the scheduled hang out.
>>>
>>> further note :
>>> an interesting reply by June on this thread,
>>> also available on the public p2pf list archive
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>- [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>>understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>>> !<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01085.html>
>>> Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>>> !<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01087.html>
>>>June Gorman
>>>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>>> !<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01088.html>
>>>Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, De

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*Silke says : "Perhaps sbd want's to start collecting these experiences (
EDUCATION AS COMMONING ) on the P2P website?"*

Sounds good. I'm in.

Also, personally, I would DIFFERENTIATE between *"learning as commons"* ,
and "education" as commons...   ;)

I imagine there are already all kinds of content and categories related to
these topics - so I guess it can help to have a clear vision of what it is
we may be expressing.

On this thread, imho, no general consensus - just overlaps in a diversity
of approaches.

As I understand it, some focusing on reproducing the university , but in a
cooperative structure ( with some social media blend ), and focused on the
teachers, who would become the owners of the structure ?

An alternative that seems to be more in the direction you seem to suggest
Silke, though I feel you may be using a midway approach, is one not only
that is learner centered, but learner controlled.

Basing ourselves on a Contribution Economy approach,
See ladder of participation :

http://p2pfoundation.net/Ladder_of_Participation

As for editing the p2pfoundation wiki,
I try not to mess too much with the p2pfoundation site, sometimes just
adding or correcting, rather sending info to others ( often Michel ) to add
to it.

If others create the structure / how it is categorized, or pages, I can add
links where it seems appropriate.


[image: File:Ladder-example.png]

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Silke Helfrich wrote:

> Dear all,
> just a short note:
>
> Once the new university-like "institution" I was talking about is running
> ("classes" start by early January 2014, and I hope official recognition is
> underway) I'll post some more information via this list.
>
> There is a huge need to show that also our educational systems can be
> remodeled as commons; and the good thing is, this is nothing new at all, we
> can learn from practices worldwide.
>
> May be at some point we should think about putting all this experience
> together and discussing it in depth!
> For me -for instance - the zapatistas approach is extremely inspiring (but
> different from what we also need to do here in Germany); or the campesino a
> campesino programms all over the world - so how to get this into higher
> education in countries like mine?
> Perhaps sbd want's to start collecting these experiences (EDUCATION AS
> COMMONING) on the P2P website?
>
> Very best
> Silke
>
>
> Am 18.12.2013 06:54, schrieb dav...@spektral.at:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just get home from big student protests after the new austrian
>> government abrogated the 'ministry of science and research". It's now
>> part of the 'ministry for economy'.
>>
>> I am also quite interested in the free university projects going on. My
>> overall interest is in co-operative learning not only within the
>> academic sphere but outside of the university, also
>> academic-and-non-academic learning together.
>>
>> Since we are trying out a kind of 'free and open university' project in
>> Graz I am facing many questions.
>> There're concerning:
>> * learning from (urban) commons projects.
>> * How can we use the city as resource? How can we participate in urban
>> development to create a city for our needs? (Since german commons
>> summerschool with silke I am thinking of how to 'activate' people in
>> participating in urban development. This can also be seen as a kind of
>> strategy against enclosure of urban commons)
>> * the integration of people of different social groups (e.g. academic
>> and non-academic, from different cultures/countries) and of different
>> age for learning practices, also research and working on solutions in
>> one's everyday life.
>>
>> Our project in Graz is (right now) in the very beginning and we are
>> still searching for people who have knowledge and experience about
>> education. So far we are trying out different things: skill sharing,
>> using online courses, reading circles and practical stuff. Our first
>> trial is concerning gardening. Ecology and biology is too theoretical,
>> so we wanna use the community gardens in Graz. We are trying to include
>> very different groups and people of different age (starting with
>> kindergarden, also people in retirement).
>>
>> Best
>> David
>>
>> Dante-Gabryell Monson  wrote:
>>
>> Interesting Silke.
>>
>> Feels already closer to a "Cooperative of Learners" :)
>>
>> Is it a face to face real world living space you imagine ?
>>
>> I am interested in projects that could happen in Germany.
>>
&g

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Interesting.

Regarding a cooperative university approach.
I notice there are several , potentially overlapping approaches.

I wish to bring forward the potential of a* "learners cooperative"* point
of perspective , as a cultural trend to *adapt to de-monetization* ,
support forms of social and environmental regeneration, enable alternatives
not as dependent ( and yet potentially overlapping ) of the mainstream
narratives.

I do sense that this is ideological. Supporting the commons in itself is
imho ideological.

If interested, here goes - it is a bit long ...


/

I understand Sam and others focused on these topics - but still tried/try
to make a monetized business out of it ?
And I guess it is legitimate, especially if one needs to limit the risks
one can take ( for example, in regards to family, if there is dependency on
mortgage, loans, etc )

Yet - I want to bring forward the following :

*Can we do it ... without money, at all ?  Or... by reducing dependency to
money to the minimum ? ... and by doing so, make such approaches scalable,
not only online, but as potential interfaces for the creation and spreading
of emergent viable systems, accessible to any form of intelligence across
the globe ?*

I am aware some of us may get burned out, especially if isolated or
marginalized by working on such research.
Finding ways to engage people, when most people seem to be stuck in hopes
or needs to get something out of a rat race narrative, is not easy.
Perhaps for some, a cooperative university may be an intermediary approach,
which would enable them to more easily support certain forms of commons.

Yet for those who have for some reason dropped out of such capitalist rat
race ( deliberately or not ) , or who still have a foot in it but may
already have secured themselves,

starting with shared engagement, interacting with each other, living
together, may be a starting point ? Including young or older who want to
create a shared experience together, using learning as a vector for
convergence and engagement ?  Potentially leading to further incubation of
modules for systemic alternatives.   Tribes converging, even for short term
events or festivals, yet experiencing a more festivalism paradigm , as
opposed to a society of the spectacle ?

http://p2pfoundation.net/Festivalism

///

I'll allow myself to re-contextualize :

I like how the* video shared by Joe
  talks about
"intersections"*...
I do feel it brings up many of the topics , including "degrees and
certifications".

My take and personal experience in relation to *"learning"*
is that it *does not depend on teaching, and even less so on universities,
or credentials.*

My take is that credentials are a poor and limited motivation for learning,
although it may be one of the possible intersections.

As for the *subject of this thread, *
*the topic of a Co-operative University*,
it can imho certainly be *beneficial* for those who are dependent on the
academic business
*for making a monetary living*, and I wish them well in their approach !

It may become more like a *"producers cooperative"
* - university staff
being the producers ?

Similarly, one could imagine a *"consumers cooperative"
* in relation to
universities ( students as consumers ? )

What is produced and consumed ?
What is being monetized ?
Does it need to be monetized ?

Is is it all about a credential economy ?

I notice articles such as
http://www.educause.edu/ero/article/credentialing-economy-transformed-and-its-beneficiaries



What paradigm(s) are we in, and *how do we negotiate priorities in terms of
learning ?* ( and in producing new knowledge / research )

Can we really separate "production" and "consumption" when it comes to
learning ?

And since we are sharing this on commoning and p2pfoundation lists,
what happens when everyone becomes a producer and a consumer,
and when we generate a commons for each other.

*What happens when we "de-monetize" ... ?*
That is, not even alter-monetize - but "no money".

What happens when there is no more chain of command,
*when one does not make oneself dependent on the conditions of a monetary
monopoly *

( and ( imho ) its top down crafted prioritization of objectives and the
specific markets it decides to create via artificial scarcity , and tribute
to such hierarchy of artificial scarcity ? )

*What happens when credentials are not being sold as being needed to
survive or have a say in this society ?*

When we generate communities based on principles of " equipotentiality "
http://p2pfoundation.net/Equipotentiality


When we can collectively shift our inter-dependencies to a communal
shareholding relational dynamic ?

http://p2pfoundation.net/Relational_Model_Typology_-_Fiske

///


I do feel that Open Learning approaches do tend towards this...

In effect, what would universities ( still ) be se

Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Eric

Yes, I'd be glad to follow up on the thinking and research you are doing
around metacurrency, and participate in the scheduled hang out.

further note :
an interesting reply by June on this thread,
also available on the public p2pf list archive

http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/


   - [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks
!<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01085.html>
Dante-Gabryell Monson
  - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
  understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks
!<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01087.html>
   June Gorman
  - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
  understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks
!<http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/msg01088.html>
   Dante-Gabryell Monson



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Eric Harris-Braun wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It turns out that where the technical side of the MetaCurrency Project has
> led us has lots to do with Semantic Data or rather, from our point of view,
> Semantic Computing.  Ceptr, the computing stack we are designing to build
> our tools out of, pushes Semantics down into the lowest levels of the
> stack, in a way that we haven't seen with the approaches inherent embodied
> in RDF/URI.
>
> For folks interested in our approach, I'm scheduling a tech hang-out in
> the next week or two. If you want to be notified of it please drop me a
> line.
>
> -Eric
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *pre-note : I try to understand if we can , possibly collectively, *
>> *write an article that could be published on the p2pfoundation blog,*
>> *as to better explain, in words and with images / graphics , *
>> *some of the potentials of building on, for example, Linked Data - and/or
>> similar technologies enabling us to more easily redefine our realities
>> collectively -*
>>
>>
>> *If anyone wrote on these topics, or is interested in combining our
>> efforts and research in writing about these topics, or if some can help in
>> making such article in a enjoyable reading moment ( combining it with nice
>> imagery and stories ? Like some science fiction authors manage to do - yet
>> talking about the present ? ) it would be great.   I mean, not only about
>> one specific application or project, but about the potential to work
>> together on various applications based on common protocols. *
>>
>> *Some call it a "Global Brain" , or a "Web Operating System" , ... *
>>
>> *Below is what I want to say to open up the topics for now ... I am open
>> to brainstorm further, and progressively collectively organize an easier to
>> understand blog post, or series of blog posts, on such topics.*
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bob, Thanks Helene,
>>
>> for your replies.
>>
>> I sent this message initially motivated by the realization, after an
>> email exchange with Michel.
>>
>> Michel pointed that in his view there seemed to be little interest
>> regarding Linked Data / Semantic Web approaches on p2pf related forums.
>>
>> So I wondered if this was really the case, and if so, what could be the
>> reason,
>> and how could it be better communicated.
>>
>> Possibly showing how different projects may have an interest in using
>> such technologies in their research and development of applications,
>> showing overlap of different applications that want to embody such
>> technologies,
>> and overlap and re-use of the data generated by each of these
>> applications to enable yet new applications.
>>
>> For example, Bob in collaboration with Sensorica for Open Value Network
>> tools...
>>
>> Although the technologies can be re-used and adapted for a variety of
>> applications,
>> hence Netention ( mostly Seth coding for now ) researching approaches,
>> and inviting others into such research and development, which hopefully can
>> be re-used for Open Value Networks, or for alternative forms of learning
>> building on available information on our wiki's , etc
>>
>> Other projects, such as metamaps, are also interested ( or already
>> including ) such approaches ...
>>
>> Pavlik was already talking about FOAF ( one aspect / approach using
>> Linked Data concepts ) many years ago.  I now notice Pavlik is regaining
>> interest, includ

[P2P-F] Fwd: Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

anding of it. - for each application,
various combinations of technologies may been considered,

yet I see potential in enabling inter-operable formats, and data that can
be re-used along compatible data graph approaches...

How can this best be explained with imagery that anyone could understand,
and beyond any one specific project ?   Enable the imagery of a new way of
creating and using data... re-using such data, enabling us to contextualize
and choose the ( political and economic ) "games" we play based on such
contextualization layers ?

Enabling us to interact with others, and across various applications,
beyond any proprietary approaches, and beyond any social silos...

Yet at the same time, enabling "machines" to understand ...

Opening up whole new dimensions in terms of what seems to be widely called "The
Internet of Things" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_Things> /
Spimes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spime> , including in support of the
Sharing Economy, or better still in my view, A Contribution Economy based
on Peer Production in support of the Commons.

That this can be enabled by experimenting further with various existing
modules and protocols... reducing threshold for their usage, reducing the
threshold for generating data together, reducing the threshold for
organizing ourselves using such data ...

There are many more themes this relates to.

For example, Architecture - Urbanism, etc
( such as Modular Parametric Design , based on Lego Like components that
can easily be re-assembled ? )

There are also many risks - and in my view, a need to think how we can be
ahead of understanding the technology, to avoid it being used to trap us in
it - and instead use it to liberate and empower us.

Please feel free to correct me where you see fit, complement views, give
your own perceptions, etc

There is existing code from various projects for such kind of "Web 4.0"
browsing - there has been already a lot of research.

In my view, one of the main challenges now, is to get people to work
together on open sourced code and libre licenses,

for developing inter-operable tools using such open protocols...

Making the various interfaces easier to understand and use...

But first, in my view, we need to see if people grasp these concepts, and
understand that these potentials are very real and are current - and we can
participate in their development, and hopefully soon benefit from its
potentials.

Also, there is funding available - for those of us who are good with
funding applications - and can enable access to such larger partnerships -,
willing to contribute to the work of programmers, or willing to motivate
programmers to converge around a commons oriented approach -

see : http://fisa.future-internet.eu/index.php/FIA_Research_Roadmap

http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/ssai/fp8preparations_en.html

Note : There are also all kinds of existing video materials that can be
used to illustrate such concepts...  I am willing to bring them together.
Those who can do video editing, I d be interested in supporting research
for creating a new video document too, in addition to blog articles.




Forwarded conversation
Subject: Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding
its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !


From: *Dante-Gabryell Monson* 
Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:50 AM
To: p2p-foundation 


What would be your answer ? ( reply on this list or in private to me )

*A ) Interested in ( getting to know more about ) its potentials*
*B ) Not interested*

and

*1 ) Never heard of Linked Data <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linked_data>*
*2 ) Know about it*
*3 ) Actively researching Linked Data
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linked_data> applications ( in support of p2p
4 commons ? )*

( or whatever other replies you wish to give )

//

Context of my question :

Michel noted that in his view Linked Data has not been a topic with much
interest on the p2pf related forums.

I wish to understand if this is simply because not many of us know about
Linked Data, and its potentials ?

Or is it simply because it seemed too complex or technical to bring it up
on this specific list ?

I know some of us are working on Linked Data applications,
including in support of Sharing Economy applications.

I personally have been interested in some of its applications for a few
years, without being a programmer.  I collaborated with a programmer over
the last years, to explore some of the approaches that can be taken to
create certain applications.

///

The first aim I have with this email is to have some kind of quick ,
hopefully sufficiently representative set of replies.  It does not have to
be on the public list - you can also reply to me in private if you like.

>From there on, I wish to open up another thread to further explain what
Linked Data can be used for with those of us who may have explored the
topic a

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Sam

Yes, I understand this.
No worries, you are not too much ahead of me ;)
( if such thing ever exists ? Ever noticed yourself remembering what you
understood when you where a child ... but forgot ? )

I remember past exchanges with you, always finding them very inspiring.
Likely nothing new - but re-contextualizing :

Independently from personal strategies ( including the potential influence
of disillusion , and social pressures ) for shared action in a debt based
tributary system,

I believe we can see potentials for synergies between narratives.

I do understand and see a "Cooperative" alternative to a "Corporate"
university system as certainly useful ( if but only to regain some control
and better re-distribute income ),
even if certain of such cooperative learning institutions may recycle and
build themselves on selling prospects for monetization of credentials
throughout career based narratives.

Yet do they apply for most of the populations of the world ?

Is it even realistic to want to spread it out as an example.   Perhaps
rather see it as a mere improvement on the infrastructures supporting a
current ( yet rapidly changing ) narrative and learning approach ?

I hoped such processes will happen in full awareness, while keeping in mind
other narratives with whom to overlap to support shared intentions.

You probably noticed this list - many of whom are still in a monetized
paradigm, yet with potential towards overlap with other narratives -
http://emergentbydesign.com/2012/01/08/93-superhero-schools-collaboratories-incubators-accelerators-hubs-for-social-tech-innovation/

I already see this as a shift in narratives and social design, which likely
can relate to the process this thread is about ? These seem to be reaching
sufficient support as to become credible in the eyes of mainstream,
converging in some cases californian tech start-up incubation narratives.

The narrative supported in my last message is one many of us on this list
may know about - the small is beautiful narrative -

combined with that of converging the itinerant of
an information rich NEET <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEET> / Precariat /
Freeter <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeter> /
NINJA<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Income_No_Asset>Generation ,

and experimenting with neo-nomadic infrastructures, or relays. ( examples
may be https://embassynetwork.com/ , http://nomadbase.org/ )

The new Pope of the Catholic Church seems to have consciously chosen to
build on the narrative of Francis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi  ( which has counterparts in
other cultures ).

There, too, there may be some overlap to find ;)

So, looking forward to find overlaps between the narratives we may each
choose to focus on, in support of shared collective intelligence and the
commons.

Cordially,
Dante


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Samuel Rose  wrote:

> Interesting.
>
> I feel like years ago I started where you are coming from in this message.
> Then, over time I came to the conclusion that here in my environment very
> few are in a position to evolve in the way you describe.
>
> I don't think it is incumbent on me to fasten to any worldview. Rather it
> has been more effective for me to create the conditions for change. For me,
> this has meant starting from where people are at now.
>
>
> On Saturday, December 14, 2013, Dante-Gabryell Monson wrote:
>
>> interesting thread - thanks to all
>>
>> personal note - I hope your actions can evolve towards , or include
>> awareness and support for :
>>
>> *" uncommodified, unmanaged, and uncurricularized "*
>>
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Against_the_Professional_Cooptation_of_Community
>>
>> hence using institutions for de-institutionalization :
>> non monetized, self organized ( and open sourced ), non credentialized.
>>
>> potentially some examples, in addition to informal learning we experience
>> in our daily lives
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_College
>> Bunker Roy: Learning from a barefoot 
>> movement<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqqVwM6bMM>
>>
>> and
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimally_invasive_education
>> such as ( when using ICT )
>> http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/
>> "The hole in the wall: self organising systems in education" - Sugata
>> Mitra at ALT-C 2010 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps8MwyJH8Zo>
>> TED Talk - Hole in The Wall 
>> Experiment<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks8D3WE-PbM>
>>
>>
>> Personally, I am interested in converging tribes, into ( semi ? ) neo
>> nomadic tribes,
>> even if only for a specific time and specific space,
>> for socially and environmentally regenerative participatory action
&

Re: [P2P-F] [commoning] The Co-operative University

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

interesting thread - thanks to all

personal note - I hope your actions can evolve towards , or include
awareness and support for :

*" uncommodified, unmanaged, and uncurricularized "*

http://p2pfoundation.net/Against_the_Professional_Cooptation_of_Community

hence using institutions for de-institutionalization :
non monetized, self organized ( and open sourced ), non credentialized.

potentially some examples, in addition to informal learning we experience
in our daily lives

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_College
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqqVwM6bMM

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimally_invasive_education
such as ( when using ICT )
http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps8MwyJH8Zo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks8D3WE-PbM


Personally, I am interested in converging tribes, into ( semi ? ) neo
nomadic tribes,
even if only for a specific time and specific space,
for socially and environmentally regenerative participatory action research
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_action_research

I spent years hitch hiking, money-less, or almost money-less,
and realize a home / base to return to is important.

I hope the following space will become a reality, and a starting point for
leveraging such approaches

http://sharewiki.org/en/Antwerp_Collective

I wish to encourage such approaches, or find ways to find overlap, with
cooperative institutions,

and enable scalability by supporting modular and open source parametric
nomadic solutions and infrastructures :
http://sharewiki.org/en/Spime_Housing

and rapidly spread out such approach in most of the world, regardless of
land ownership, money, or credentials,

and in support of emergent collective intelligence and the commons.







On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Joss Winn  wrote:

> Joe, Sam, Michel, Wouter,
>
>
> Thanks for your replies to my initial email about co-operative
> universities.
>
> http://josswinn.org/2013/12/co-operative-principles-in-higher-education/
>
> At that link are my notes from the seminar held in London this week. For
> further updates, you can subscribe to my blog (email/RSS) and I will try
> to document notable developments in this area. See also:
> http://coopuni.wordpress.com/
>
> We, at Lincoln, are in the process of organising a workshop early next
> year and probably an edited book on alternative higher education, so those
> are two ways that we might collaborate on this. In the meantime, a Skype
> chat sometime early next year is always possible. I’d love to hear your
> thoughts on this and about any related work you’re doing.
>
> Best,
> Joss
>
>
> On 12/12/2013 18:24, "Joe Corneli"  wrote:
>
> >Hi Joss:
> >
> >there's likely to be interest in "Human Capabilities and Open
> >Learning" branch of FLOK project (research leads of which copied in
> >here).  I'm also interested, and meaning to talk with them and you
> >about Peeragogy (peeragogy.org).  Sorry I couldn't make that time in
> >London, but if there are further discussions I may be able to join.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >PS.  The FLOK info:
> >
> >«This research stream will focus on institutional support for capacity
> >building with a special focus on open learning and community driven
> >collaboration. Within this research stream, learning is viewed as a
> >pillar of development and growth in the context of a broad transition
> >to a social economy that embodies reciprocity and commons-based value
> >creation. This includes a particular stress on active public policies
> >that respond to growing social challenges facing Ecuadorean society.
> >Beyond conventional systems of learning and education that might
> >depend upon closed proprietary structures, this research will utilize
> >commons-based learning networks to harness open science and open
> >educational resources (OER). Perhaps most importantly, this includes a
> >broad interest in advancing the public good through partnering
> >frameworks with civil society.» -
> >
> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan_Provided_by_the_Research_Co
> >ordinators
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Wouter Tebbens (FKI)
> > wrote:
> >> Dear Joss and all,
> >>
> >> last July I was invited to a "Foresight workshop for Open Education in
> >> Higher Education in Europe by 2030" organised by the EC's JRC/IPTS
> >> centre to contribute to the development of scenarios for OE in HE &
> >> Research.
> >>
> >> At least part of the participants was interested in some forms of
> >> commons-governed models. Possibly you might be interested in my notes
> >> which I put up on my blog at FKI:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://freeknowledge.eu/blog/wouter/ec-foresight-workshop-developing-a-co
> >>mmons-educational-vision-for-higher-education-2030
> >>
> >> I find it very interesting to read your work and interests in such
> >> direction.
> >>
> >> best regards,
> >>
> >> Wouter
> >> --
> >> Free Knowledge Institute | http://freeknowledge.eu | Unlocking the
> >> Knowledge Society
> >> Free Techno

[P2P-F] Linux Foundation - AllSeen Alliance - “Internet of Things”

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

https://allseenalliance.org/

THE BROADEST CROSS-INDUSTRY EFFORT TO ADVANCE THE INTERNET OF EVERYTHING

The AllSeen Alliance is a nonprofit consortium dedicated to driving the
widespread adoption of products, systems and services that enable the
Internet of Everything, built upon an open, universal development framework
and supported by a vibrant ecosystem and thriving technical community.

https://allseenalliance.org/announcement/technology-leaders-establish-allseen-alliance-advance-internet-everything

https://allseenalliance.org/source-code
https://git.allseenalliance.org/gerrit/#/admin/projects/

( found via Seth )

10 Dec 2013
TECHNOLOGY LEADERS ESTABLISH THE ALLSEEN ALLIANCE TO ADVANCE THE ‘INTERNET
OF EVERYTHING’

The Linux Foundation, the nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating
the growth of Linux and collaborative development, today announced the
formation of the AllSeen Alliance, the broadest cross-industry consortium
to date to advance adoption and innovation in the “Internet of Everything”
in homes and industry.

...

*Haier, LG Electronics, Panasonic, Qualcomm, Sharp, Silicon Image, TP-LINK
and more unite to enable interoperability across multiple devices, systems
and services and support broadest cross-industry effort to accelerate
Internet of Everything*

...

The AllSeen Alliance looks to expand upon the “Internet of Things,” which
Gartner predicts will add $1.9 trillion to the global economy by 2020, to
include more functionality and interactions across various brands and
sectors, such as the connected home, healthcare, education, automotive and
enterprise.

...

The AllSeen Alliance becomes the 11th Linux Foundation Collaborative
Project. These are independently funded software projects that harness the
power of collaborative development to fuel innovation across industries and
ecosystems. By spreading the collaborative DNA of the largest collaborative
software development project in history, The Linux Foundation provides the
essential collaborative and organizational framework so project hosts can
focus on innovation and results. Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects
span the enterprise, mobile, embedded and life sciences markets and are
backed by many of the largest names in technology.
https://allseenalliance.org/source-code
https://git.allseenalliance.org/gerrit/#/admin/projects/
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Mark

I remember that video documentary and like it.

AI may also become a way of being a mirror to learning, to our own
reflexivity ?

For example, see this "toy" for kids - not sure it is to be defined as AI,
yet ... has a feeling of it.

https://www.ubooly.com/

http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/19/meet-ubooly-the-smart-toy-that-can-teach-your-child-math/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOwW5gP3fmM

After all , millions of kids, now become adults like myself, grew up with
TV when ending up isolated most of the time,
because adults are busy earning money to afford survival and rent,
and because organizing meetings with other kids by making agreements with
other parents was more of an event
then something usual, at least from my point of experience.More and
more of global population, and of children,
are trapped in cities.

In my own case, luckily I had access to documentaries, in several
languages, with a broad choice of channels for the day.

Today, there is , luckily, the internet.

At best, some of these "toys" can be pre-programmed to teach children to
get out of the rat race,
and develop strategies to get out of an exponential debt/slavery system,
hopefully enabling them to develop a (co)creative curious approach to
learning ( and not merely a reproductive approach )

Even for me today, it is not easy to find people who share interests who
have availability to learn together, except on the internet,
in a asynchronous way.

I live in this city, yet it is irrelevant.  I sometimes go outside to see
people, yet avoid certain times of the day,
feeling what people feel. There is segregation.   Some parts of the
population take public transport.  Others go by car.

I am imprisoned despite being "free". Imprisoned because social income
requires me to be integrating, and staying within this limited territory.

I accepted, after spending several years of "freedom", but trapped in
constant movement and change, hitch hiking.

I am still very empowered, so lets not be too concerned.   Yet just to say,
I am aware of a lot of people going through such situations.

I do have my approaches, and keep faith.

So in regards to this thread, perhaps we need not completely disregard
certain technologies,
and the potential for intelligence it can enable ( despite surveillance )
as they can be a source of remaining hope , to remain "human" ,
for those who may end up being isolated in our so called developed
countries.

Imho, Many children being part of such crowds of isolated individuals.








On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:

> Along the lines of communicating with animals, just saw this:
> http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/11936/The-Animal-Communicator
>
> As for AI, I found that it was a dead-end for this universe (which really
> needs more inter-personal connection), but perhaps for Japan.
> --
> MarkJ
> Tacoma, Washington
>
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Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

 years,
> (plenty of data/research on this especially with young and adolescent boys
> who spent the most time online/gaming (
> http://www.ted.com/talks/zimchallenge.html)), I have never seen this
> adequately addressed? The "TEF" has tried to do so, directly in this
> "Transformative Education" Principle:
>
> TEF Principle 11: Use of Technology for Greater Connection not Alienation
> Transformative education should utilize technology in a manner that does
> not impede but enhances the education of children and enables
> Transformative Education, that cannot be delivered in any other manner.
>
> This is reiterated in the TEF Principles by the questions and concerns TEF
> raises about the dominating "STEM" (Science, Technology, Engineering and
> Math) education focus so heavily promoted in the US over the last couple of
> decades, and now being exported globally by the US corporate-education
> sector, the World Bank and the Brookings Institute.
>
> Short answer then:  I am interested about learning more about
> "linked-date" myself, again can see its possibilities.  But not overother far 
> more needed understanding or as a time/money/resource preference
> of "connectivity, skilled communication and necessary linking" in human to
> human relationships themselves.
>
> I have found these are the far more important issues to understand and
> resolve, especially in education.  As I have seen it's lack all over, as a
> primary negative effect of not having these skill sets of "connectivity and
> communication" understood and developed first.
>
> Hope that answers your question, even if somewhat ambiguously? :-)
> Best,
> June
>
> *June Gorman, Educator and Educational Theorist*
> Co-founder*, **Transformative Education Forum
> <http://209.172.54.115/> (website in transition) *
> Education Advisor, *UN SafePlanet Campaign*  <http://www.safepla.net/>
> *Board Project Director for Outreach**, I**nternational Model United
> Nations Association* <http://imuna.org/>
> *Steering Committee**, (UNESCO/Global Compact) **K-12 Sector for
> Sustainability Education *<http://www.uspartnership.org/main/view_archive/1>
> Member, UN Education Caucus for Sustainable Development
> Member, UN Commons Cluster
>
>
>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Dante-Gabryell Monson 
> *To:* p2p-foundation 
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:50 PM
> *Subject:* [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
> understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !
>
> What would be your answer ? ( reply on this list or in private to me )
>
> *A ) Interested in ( getting to know more about ) its potentials*
> *B ) Not interested*
>
> and
>
> *1 ) Never heard of Linked Data <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linked_data>*
> *2 ) Know about it*
> *3 ) Actively researching Linked Data
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linked_data> applications ( in support of p2p
> 4 commons ? )*
>
> ( or whatever other replies you wish to give )
>
> //
>
> Context of my question :
>
> Michel noted that in his view Linked Data has not been a topic with much
> interest on the p2pf related forums.
>
> I wish to understand if this is simply because not many of us know about
> Linked Data, and its potentials ?
>
> Or is it simply because it seemed too complex or technical to bring it up
> on this specific list ?
>
> I know some of us are working on Linked Data applications,
> including in support of Sharing Economy applications.
>
> I personally have been interested in some of its applications for a few
> years, without being a programmer.  I collaborated with a programmer over
> the last years, to explore some of the approaches that can be taken to
> create certain applications.
>
> ///
>
> The first aim I have with this email is to have some kind of quick ,
> hopefully sufficiently representative set of replies.  It does not have to
> be on the public list - you can also reply to me in private if you like.
>
> From there on, I wish to open up another thread to further explain what
> Linked Data can be used for with those of us who may have explored the
> topic and may see potential in supporting such research as to manifest them
> into certain applications, in support of , for example, p2p commons
> oriented political economies.
>
> Cordially,
> Dante
>
>
>
>
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[P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

What would be your answer ? ( reply on this list or in private to me )

*A ) Interested in ( getting to know more about ) its potentials*
*B ) Not interested*

and

*1 ) Never heard of Linked Data *
*2 ) Know about it*
*3 ) Actively researching Linked Data
 applications ( in support of p2p
4 commons ? )*

( or whatever other replies you wish to give )

//

Context of my question :

Michel noted that in his view Linked Data has not been a topic with much
interest on the p2pf related forums.

I wish to understand if this is simply because not many of us know about
Linked Data, and its potentials ?

Or is it simply because it seemed too complex or technical to bring it up
on this specific list ?

I know some of us are working on Linked Data applications,
including in support of Sharing Economy applications.

I personally have been interested in some of its applications for a few
years, without being a programmer.  I collaborated with a programmer over
the last years, to explore some of the approaches that can be taken to
create certain applications.

///

The first aim I have with this email is to have some kind of quick ,
hopefully sufficiently representative set of replies.  It does not have to
be on the public list - you can also reply to me in private if you like.

>From there on, I wish to open up another thread to further explain what
Linked Data can be used for with those of us who may have explored the
topic and may see potential in supporting such research as to manifest them
into certain applications, in support of , for example, p2p commons
oriented political economies.

Cordially,
Dante
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[P2P-F] Article : How to Burst the "Filter Bubble" that Protects Us from Opposing Views - #FilterBubble

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522111/how-to-burst-the-filter-bubble-that-protects-us-from-opposing-views/
( *found via David Brin on fb - see copied comments of David after article
excerpts* )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

*How to Burst the "Filter Bubble" that Protects Us from Opposing Views*

*Computer scientists have discovered a way to number-crunch an individual’s
own preferences to recommend content from others with opposing views. *

*The goal? *
*To burst the “filter bubble” that surrounds us with people we like and
content that we agree with.*

*...*

*the filter bubble—being surrounded only by people you like and content
that you agree with.  *

*the danger is that it can polarise populations creating potentially
harmful divisions in society.  *

*Today, Eduardo Graells-Garrido at the Universitat Pompeu Fabra in
Barcelona as well as Mounia Lalmas and Daniel Quercia, both at Yahoo Labs,
say they’ve hit on a way to burst the filter bubble. *


*Their idea that although people may have opposing views on sensitive
topics, they may also share interests in other areas. And they’ve built a
recommendation engine that points these kinds of people towards each other
based on their own preferences.  The result is that individuals are exposed
to a much wider range of opinions, ideas and people than they would
otherwise experience.*

*///*

copied comment from

David Brin

( https://twitter.com/DavidBrin ; https://www.facebook.com/thedavidbrin ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brin )

In my novel EARTH (1989) I spoke about the problem of user bubbles… where
internet inhabitants inevitably create filters that allow in materials that
agree with their preconceptions and prejudices and exclude inconveniences,
even clear refutations. In the novel, this is portrayed as extremely
dangerous to a democratic society, creating little Nuremberg Rallies that
reinforce strong dogmas and undermine our native abilities to see the other
side, to negotiate and learn from each other. In EARTH, a community of
hackers has responded with wall-penetrating programs that slip in the
inconvenient fact, from time to time…

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522111/how-to-burst-the-filter-bubble-that-protects-us-from-opposing-views/

…exactly the thing that cable news owners strenuously avoid, by preventing
their captive "dittohead" audiences from hearing or seeing dissenting
opinions. Especially not refutations of all-out lies!

Alas that forecasts in science fiction novels get little credit. Today,
this "newly discovered" phenomenon is called "the filter bubble—being
surrounded only by people you like and content that you agree with." STill,
have a look at this clever suggested partial solution.

"They also say that challenging people with new ideas makes them generally
more receptive to change. That has important implications for social media
sites. There is good evidence that users can sometimes become so resistant
to change than any form of redesign dramatically reduces the popularity of
the service. Giving them a greater range of content could change that."
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[P2P-F] Fwd: Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thank you Pamela

slide 
16<http://www.slideshare.net/fredgarnett/selfdetermined-learning-the-craft-of-heutagogy>is
interesting ( "epistemology" :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology )

///

what I find interesting, and realize I do very much,
is to first understand something ( through direct experience / intuitively
) ,
and then search for people and words / concepts that correspond to it,
as to find even more people to share it with, or share an experience of
reality around shared understanding and cocreation. ( somehow situationist
? )

The challenge is to maintain and keep sufficient diversity,
as to create new relations ( and questions ) through emergence


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Pamela McLean wrote:

> ref self directed learning see also  - Slideshare - What is Heutagogy?-
> http://www.slideshare.net/fredgarnett/selfdetermined-learning-the-craft-of-heutagogy
> also - for some great explanations of learning see Jim Gee Principles on
> Gaming - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aQAgAjTozk#t=1175
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29 November 2013 03:15, Dante-Gabryell Monson 
> wrote:
>
>>  Just noticed the use of this concept :
>>
>> *"Flipped Teaching"*
>> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_teaching*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_teaching>
>>
>> Turning Education Upside Down
>>
>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/turning-education-upside-down/
>>
>> Flipped School
>> http://www.flippedhighschool.com/
>>
>> ///
>>
>> *Flip teaching* (or flipped classroom) is a form of blended 
>> learning<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_learning> in
>> which students learn new content online by watching video lectures, usually
>> at home, and what used to be homework (assigned problems) is now done in
>> class with teacher offering more personalized guidance and interaction with
>> students, instead of lecturing. This is also known as*backwards
>> classroom*, *reverse instruction*, *flipping the classroom* and *reverse
>> teaching*.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Maria.
>>>
>>> I found this 2007 archive, copied below, where Michel shared a list of
>>> references from the wiki,
>>> in reply to a longer thread which I initially titled
>>>
>>> *" No curriculum , No students , No teachers / but Interconnected
>>> Questions , Initiatives , and Peers of all ages CREATING - with access to
>>> Unlimited Knowledge Pools "*
>>>
>>> longer thread reposted here
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/econowmix/qGFtigVrVqA
>>>
>>>
>>> note : R.I.P. Parker Rossman
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Michel Bauwens < michelsub2...@gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> Date: May 7, 2007 9:26 AM
>>> Subject: Re: No curriculum , No students , No teachers / but
>>> Interconnected Questions , Initiatives , and Peers of all ages CREATING -
>>> with access to Unlimited Knowledge Pools
>>> To: Parker Rossman 
>>> Cc: dante.mon...@gmail.com,
>>>
>>> Hi Parker,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> some links that may be of interest to your investigation, all collated
>>> from our p2p learning pages, see also the inspiring citations at the
>>>  bottom:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education
>>>
>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources 
>>> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources>
>>>
>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Textbooks
>>>
>>> tags
>>>
>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Education 
>>> <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Education>
>>>
>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Textbooks
>>>
>>> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/P2P-Learning
>>>
>>>
>>> misc on free curricula
>>>
>>> http://opencontent.org/blog/
>>>
>>> http://www.eliteskills.com/free_education/?foo=x
>>>
>>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Free_Curricula_Center
>>>
>>> http://opencontent.org/ocwfinder/
>>>
>>>
>>> various open concepts as related to education
>>>
>>>
>>>- OER Commons <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/OER_Commons>
>>>- One Laptop per Child<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/One_Laptop_per_Child>
>>&g

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Just noticed the use of this concept :

*"Flipped Teaching"*
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_teaching*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_teaching>

Turning Education Upside Down
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/turning-education-upside-down/

Flipped School
http://www.flippedhighschool.com/

///

*Flip teaching* (or flipped classroom) is a form of blended
learning<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_learning> in
which students learn new content online by watching video lectures, usually
at home, and what used to be homework (assigned problems) is now done in
class with teacher offering more personalized guidance and interaction with
students, instead of lecturing. This is also known as*backwards
classroom*, *reverse
instruction*, *flipping the classroom* and *reverse teaching*.


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Maria.
>
> I found this 2007 archive, copied below, where Michel shared a list of
> references from the wiki,
> in reply to a longer thread which I initially titled
>
> *" No curriculum , No students , No teachers / but Interconnected
> Questions , Initiatives , and Peers of all ages CREATING - with access to
> Unlimited Knowledge Pools "*
>
> longer thread reposted here
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/econowmix/qGFtigVrVqA
>
>
> note : R.I.P. Parker Rossman
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Michel Bauwens < michelsub2...@gmail.com >
> Date: May 7, 2007 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: No curriculum , No students , No teachers / but
> Interconnected Questions , Initiatives , and Peers of all ages CREATING -
> with access to Unlimited Knowledge Pools
> To: Parker Rossman 
> Cc: dante.mon...@gmail.com,
>
> Hi Parker,
>
>
>
> some links that may be of interest to your investigation, all collated
> from our p2p learning pages, see also the inspiring citations at the
>  bottom:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education
>
> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources 
> <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources>
>
> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Textbooks
>
> tags
>
> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Education 
> <http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Education>
>
> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/Open-Textbooks
>
> http://del.icio.us/mbauwens/P2P-Learning
>
>
> misc on free curricula
>
> http://opencontent.org/blog/
>
> http://www.eliteskills.com/free_education/?foo=x
>
> http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Free_Curricula_Center
>
> http://opencontent.org/ocwfinder/
>
>
> various open concepts as related to education
>
>
>- OER Commons <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/OER_Commons>
>- One Laptop per Child<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/One_Laptop_per_Child>
>- Online Gradebooks <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Online_Gradebooks>
>- Online Learning 
> Communities<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Online_Learning_Communities>
>- Open Access <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Access>
>- Open Archives <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Archives>
>- Open Archives 
> Initiative<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Archives_Initiative>
>- Open Biology <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Biology>
>- Open Code <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Code>
>- Open Content <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Content>
>- Open CourseWare 
> Finder<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_CourseWare_Finder>
>- Open Courseware 
> Initiative<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Courseware_Initiative>
>- Open Curriculum 
> Movement<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Curriculum_Movement>
>- Open Data <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Data>
>- Open Education <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education>
>- Open Education 2006<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education_2006>
>- Open Educational 
> Resources<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Educational_Resources>
>- Open Learning <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Learning>
>- Open Media Registry<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Media_Registry>
>- Open Science <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Science>
>- Open Source Education 
> Models<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Education_Models>
>- Open Source Knowledge 
> Building<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Knowledge_Building>
>- Open Source Schools<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Schools>
>- Open Source Software Distribution 
> Initiative<http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Software_Distribution_Initiative&g

[P2P-F] P2P Energy approach ? - TED : The Future of Nano-Electric Power Generation

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wHGh2eRbLE

( The Future of Nano-Electric Power Generation )

I feel this can contribute to the model developed and expressed on the
p2pfoundation wiki some years back...

http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Energy_Economy

Ted presentation worth watching ! :)

( link found via Sebastian W )

///

*Uploaded on Oct 28, 2011*

*http://nanoholdings.com/  - Justin Hall-Tipping
CEO of "Nanoholdings" Explains how nanotechnology is set to change the
future of energy and replace fossil and nuclear fuels.*









*Below is an excerpt from:http://nanoholdings.com/about-us/
Nanoholdings is a team of scientists,
investors and innovators working at the cutting-edge of nanotechnology to
develop solutions to the world's growing energy problems. Working in
partnership with the world's best universities we develop products and
companies that will revolutionize the way we use and generate energy.Two
things stand out about us -- we focus exclusively on nanotechnology-based
energy solutions and we work at the very cutting-edge of nano-energy
research.Our extensive network of leading scientists in the nanotechnology
field are central to our work - scientists based at eminent universities
around the world, who are working at the coal-face of nano-energy research
to seek out alternative solutions for how we generate, transmit, store and
use energy. We support and guide their research, transforming breakthroughs
into viable solutions -- products to revolutionize the way we use and
generate energy.*
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

n=edit§ion=7>
]
Citation 7: From learning "just in case" to "learning on demand"

Paul D. Fernhout:

"Ultimately, educational technology's greatest value is in supporting
"learning on demand" based on interest or need which is at the opposite end
of the spectrum compared to "learning just in case" based on someone else's
demand. Compulsory schools don't usually traffic in "learning on demand",
for the most part leaving that kind of activity to libraries or museums or
the home or business or the "real world". In order for compulsory schools
to make use of the best of educational technology and what is has to offer,
schools themselves must change." (
 http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.html
<http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.html>
)



On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Maria Droujkova  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> :)
>>
>> Thanks Maria
>>
>> This is a list of spaces , which may correspond to the spirit
>>
>> http://emergentbydesign.com/2012/01/08/93-superhero-schools-collaboratories-incubators-accelerators-hubs-for-social-tech-innovation/
>>
>> As for names for such approaches...
>>
>> Connectivism may be one of such learning approaches ? ( some see it as
>> related to constructivism ? )
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectivism
>>
>> ...
>> I am very tempted, though this may be more general,
>> to add Buckminster Fuller
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
>>  and Ivan Illich ( " Tools for Conviviality" , ... )
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich
>>
>>
>> Thank you! These general resources help as well, because people who
> actively follow Buckminster Fuller ideas (for example) tend to form
> flexible learning/working groups more than other demographics.
>
> Very helpful!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dr. Maria Droujkova
> moebiusnoodles.com
> 919-388-1721
> =~+~+~=
>
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[P2P-F] Class of the very rich the only ( organized ) class left ? - Is there the Emergence of a "Commons" class ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

I ask myself : *Y a-t'il le potentiel d'une emergence d'une classe autour
des biens communs ? / **Is there the Emergence of a "Commons" class ?*

In the podcast linked below, from 2007, before visibility and organization
on the public squares, at some point they answer that there is only the
very rich people who still remain as organized in the form of a class , as
the rest of society is segmented, and the poor workers can not identify
anymore to a space they share, namely the factories.

Hence I ask myself : can there be convergence and identification around a
"class of the commons" / "des biens communs" ?

In french,
2007 Radio podcast, interview of Monique Pinçon-Charlot and Michel Pinçonat
the end, about their book "Les Ghettos du Ghota" - more recently, they
published another book called "La violence des Riches"


http://www.la-bas.org/article.php3?id_article=1236&var_recherche=pin%E7on

Si d’ordinaire les sociologues se penchent sur l’étude des ghettos subis,
c’est à dire ceux où se retrouvent cantonnées les franges déshéritées de la
population, Michel Pinçon et Monique Pinçon-Charlot se sont eux intéressés
aux ghettos choisis : les ghettos de la haute bourgeoisie. De la Villa
Montmorency aux cercles et autres clubs huppés, les familles de la haute
société réquisitionnent les plus beaux espaces pour leur usage personnel.
Protégés et cachés dans ces espaces privés qui leur correspondent, les
grandes familles restent entre elles afin de reproduire un schéma social et
des valeurs qui sont les leurs.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monique_Pin%C3%A7on-Charlot

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Pin%C3%A7on
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

:)

Thanks Maria

This is a list of spaces , which may correspond to the spirit
http://emergentbydesign.com/2012/01/08/93-superhero-schools-collaboratories-incubators-accelerators-hubs-for-social-tech-innovation/

As for names for such approaches...

Connectivism may be one of such learning approaches ? ( some see it as
related to constructivism ? )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectivism

...
I am very tempted, though this may be more general,
to add Buckminster Fuller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
and Ivan Illich ( " Tools for Conviviality" , ... )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich

...

I wish to put forward the suggestion and potential for some of us who are
in Europe ( or those that can easily make it to europe )
to organize some collective for a week or two on such topics.

A not for profit is making available this space in Antwerp , though it will
take at least a few months before the place can be made hospitable enough
to welcome people
http://sharewiki.org/en/Antwerp_Collective

Cordially,
Dante



On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Maria Droujkova wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Michel Bauwens 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>>
>> entire article : http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/free-thinkers/all/
>>
> The article lists BIG WAVES in the contemporary free learning, and names
> people who talk about each wave.
>
> - computer-based explorations, Sugata Mitra, Nicholas Negroponte
> - freeschools, Peter Gray
> - cognitive and neuroscience studies, Joel Voss, Alison Gopnik
>
> I would like to expand this list. Here are my suggestions:
> - the Maker movement
> - homeschoolers, unschoolers
> - computer-based modular expert systems for networks of learners (e.g.
> Project Euler)
>
> More?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dr. Maria Droujkova
> moebiusnoodles.com
> 919-388-1721
> =~+~=
>
>
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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Education


On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you June for correcting my apparent mis-interpretation of your reply.
>
> I believe it can be part of an equipotential approach , defined in this way
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Equipotentiality
>
> a non-credentialist approach :
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Anti-Credentialism
>
> I remember the story of medieval universities emerging around libraries,
> as a convergence amongst peers ?
>
> Furthermore, I personally have the tendency to discourage the usage of the
> word "education", preferring the concept of "learning".
>
> A further potential I hope we can explore further is one of nomadic
> learning.
> Learning via contexts and situations, in interaction with a diverse set of
> realities , encounters, influences.
>
> Cordially,
> Dante
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM, June Gorman wrote:
>
>> Hi Dante,
>>
>> I was in no way suggesting that you saw this as replacing humans with
>> machines.  My caution is that there are several very powerful forces in the
>> current models of education being promoted, many under the rubric of
>> "education for sustainable development", that very much do have that exact
>> long-term goal.  This in the US, is part of the issue on both sides of the
>> eventual benefit/destruction controversy of public university models
>> promoting the MOOC (Massive Open Online Courses) by some of the top private
>> universities in the US.  Currently offered many times for
>> free.but..in the future?  And at what loss to the basic premise of
>> universities -- that people from different worlds, views and backgrounds
>> come together in a "combustion" of these different ideas?  That often
>> necessitates interpersonal listening and dynamics I haven't seen often well
>> exemplified in truly difficult conversations, on the computers alone.
>>
>> In the individual case, like yours, many valid points do exist such as
>> you say,
>>
>> "Such approaches have been central in my own learning - up to a point
>> where I felt I could learn faster / feel less alienated in my learning by
>> leaving school."
>>
>> Multiple modalities and ways of learning need to be open wide to all to
>> access their preferred way of doing so, and the computer is among these.
>>  Even Marco mentions an important one of these with the Boy Scout more
>> Dewyan -- "learn by doing" -- model.  But all of these systematic models
>> embody the mostly un-excavated and un-examined prejudices of their dominant
>> instigators and thus in the clear case of the Boy Scouts -- discrimination
>> against girls (handled by funding a separate sex organization in the Girl
>> Guides) and the latest, against homosexuals.
>>
>> There are also some dominant Western "Enlightenment" and
>> entitlement-based ideologies that systemized certainly sexist models of
>> defining ways of most productive thinking and evening
>> feminine/humanities/irrational/nature vs.
>> masculine/science/rational/technology dichotomies with Father-Force and
>> technology having the thus naturally accepted right to dominate and
>> subjugate "Mother-nature".
>>
>> This is one reason many females under that system found it very difficult
>> to proceed in their most productive-to-learn ways and style of learning,
>> and one reason many "others" of different groups also find the computer
>> less judgmental of what "intelligence" most mattered in these limited ways
>> found in our standard educational "systems" and thus found it easier to
>> learn on their own.  But my concern is that these still underlying
>> judgments of the technological-dominant view of the world prevail and often
>> remain, now with no dissenting "teachers" at all, and will thus be the only
>> view children are "exposed to" at all, to what is most important to learn.
>>
>> That computers can add to this connecting and learning from others at all
>> ages -- that I think is where your argument is very much more powerful.  I
>> completely agree on that point, but it is still necessary to learn the most
>> critical emotional/social/cultural intelligences for a sustainable
>> (healthy, peaceful, caring and more equitable) world only interpersonally
>> with others and critically when children are mostly "emotional" learners
>> and thinkers -- when they are young and until 

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thank you June for correcting my apparent mis-interpretation of your reply.

I believe it can be part of an equipotential approach , defined in this way

http://p2pfoundation.net/Equipotentiality

a non-credentialist approach :
http://p2pfoundation.net/Anti-Credentialism

I remember the story of medieval universities emerging around libraries, as
a convergence amongst peers ?

Furthermore, I personally have the tendency to discourage the usage of the
word "education", preferring the concept of "learning".

A further potential I hope we can explore further is one of nomadic
learning.
Learning via contexts and situations, in interaction with a diverse set of
realities , encounters, influences.

Cordially,
Dante






On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM, June Gorman wrote:

> Hi Dante,
>
> I was in no way suggesting that you saw this as replacing humans with
> machines.  My caution is that there are several very powerful forces in the
> current models of education being promoted, many under the rubric of
> "education for sustainable development", that very much do have that exact
> long-term goal.  This in the US, is part of the issue on both sides of the
> eventual benefit/destruction controversy of public university models
> promoting the MOOC (Massive Open Online Courses) by some of the top private
> universities in the US.  Currently offered many times for
> free.but..in the future?  And at what loss to the basic premise of
> universities -- that people from different worlds, views and backgrounds
> come together in a "combustion" of these different ideas?  That often
> necessitates interpersonal listening and dynamics I haven't seen often well
> exemplified in truly difficult conversations, on the computers alone.
>
> In the individual case, like yours, many valid points do exist such as you
> say,
>
> "Such approaches have been central in my own learning - up to a point
> where I felt I could learn faster / feel less alienated in my learning by
> leaving school."
>
> Multiple modalities and ways of learning need to be open wide to all to
> access their preferred way of doing so, and the computer is among these.
>  Even Marco mentions an important one of these with the Boy Scout more
> Dewyan -- "learn by doing" -- model.  But all of these systematic models
> embody the mostly un-excavated and un-examined prejudices of their dominant
> instigators and thus in the clear case of the Boy Scouts -- discrimination
> against girls (handled by funding a separate sex organization in the Girl
> Guides) and the latest, against homosexuals.
>
> There are also some dominant Western "Enlightenment" and entitlement-based
> ideologies that systemized certainly sexist models of defining ways of most
> productive thinking and evening feminine/humanities/irrational/nature vs.
> masculine/science/rational/technology dichotomies with Father-Force and
> technology having the thus naturally accepted right to dominate and
> subjugate "Mother-nature".
>
> This is one reason many females under that system found it very difficult
> to proceed in their most productive-to-learn ways and style of learning,
> and one reason many "others" of different groups also find the computer
> less judgmental of what "intelligence" most mattered in these limited ways
> found in our standard educational "systems" and thus found it easier to
> learn on their own.  But my concern is that these still underlying
> judgments of the technological-dominant view of the world prevail and often
> remain, now with no dissenting "teachers" at all, and will thus be the only
> view children are "exposed to" at all, to what is most important to learn.
>
> That computers can add to this connecting and learning from others at all
> ages -- that I think is where your argument is very much more powerful.  I
> completely agree on that point, but it is still necessary to learn the most
> critical emotional/social/cultural intelligences for a sustainable
> (healthy, peaceful, caring and more equitable) world only interpersonally
> with others and critically when children are mostly "emotional" learners
> and thinkers -- when they are young and until the age of 10 -- before just
> letting the machines take over.
>
> Which again, is where some "educational policy leaders" are definitely
> headed, so much more "cost-effective" for getting "test-takers" taught on
> easily measurable quantitative and thus inherently reductive tests of what
> that "education" should encompass.  I was only arguing that despite its
> advantages, technology as systematic education can have some very negative
> outcom

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Anna for putting this forward.

I find Montessori and other related pedagogies of interest in this respect,
leaving the space to the child ( in us ) , not forcing it upon the learner.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montessori_education ; but also Piaget,
Steiner, Freire, etc  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedagogy  )

And also ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student-centred_learning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-oppressive_education


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Anna Harris  wrote:

> This is an interesting discussion, but seems to be leaving out the most
> important element, consulting the child. Child centered really means the
> child in charge, trusting the child to make decisions and learn from
> mistakes.
>
> While I understand your concern June, my child self feels constricted by
> all these principles. TEF seems to have a very clear idea of what it is
> trying to produce. Has it asked the child? It seems to have been decided
> what is best for the child, and for society. Certainly more respectful but
> still a top down decision.
>
> Do we really need to stipulate anything? Could we just follow the child,
> learn from the child? That doesn't mean abnegating my own interaction and
> involvement, but that must always be strictly as an equal, not to dictate
> because of my superior age and experience. This is not easy. We think we
> know. We feel responsible. Huge learning for the adult is involved.
>
> And there is still some sort of social demand that the child be 'useful to
> society', Leave them alone, let them be free. We have done enough damage.
>
> Anna
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi June,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply,
>>
>> I personally do not see this as a replacement of humans by the machines.
>>
>> I rather see the internet as a powerful tool for access to information,
>> both supporting and facilitated by dynamics between learners.
>>
>> I believe that the pedagogies it can be inspired of are that of Piaget,
>> Montessori, ...
>>
>> And as Marco underlined, hardly any new self learning ( or mutual
>> learning ) approaches.
>>
>> What is new, is possibly broader mainstream recognition, possibly
>> supported by the more widespread usage and interconnection of information
>> technologies globally, and in peoples lifestyles, facilitating a shift away
>> of "the expert", or "the teacher" as monopoly in terms of knowledge.
>>
>> Such approaches have been central in my own learning - up to a point
>> where I felt I could learn faster / feel less alienated in my learning by
>> leaving school.
>>
>> The challenge, then, for me at least, is to build up recognition through
>> networked approaches, with peers, rather then through top down ,
>> centralized certification programs and education environments.
>>
>> Although one may argue that the tests could at some point confirm the
>> acquired ( self ) learning, the self learner ( or rather, the mutual
>> learners in self organizing approaches ) does not, contrary to official
>> enrolled students, benefit from such "student" status, and at least in my
>> experience, faces pressures from society, even if only in terms of lack of
>> support.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Dante
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM, June Gorman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dante-Gabryell --
>>>
>>> This is wonderful stuff.  I know of Mitra's work and find it exciting.
>>>  Some of us in the UN Commons Cluster are working on these ideas as well
>>> and how they fit into education of and about all the Commons.
>>>
>>> But as a 30+ year (Western-US) teacher and the founder of the *MailScanner
>>> has detected a possible fraud attempt from "209.172.54.115" claiming to be
>>> <http://209.172.54.115/>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud
>>> attempt from "209.172.54.115" claiming to be Transformative Education
>>> Forum *, I would caution at the over-enthusiasm of the computer-focused
>>> translation of this idea of "learner-centered".  It is clearly an amazing
>>> and freeing tool in countless ways besides providing the "Library of the
>>> World" to any child, nearly anywhere with access to one.  But it reduces
>>> dangerously the historical, pedagogical and epistemological theories of
>>> learning and the human child themselves, down to dangerously reductive
>>> concepts of what in fact is most important "t

Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

hive/1>
> Member, UN Education Caucus for Sustainable Development
> Member, UN Commons Cluster
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Michel Bauwens 
> *To:* p2p-foundation 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 18, 2013 4:03 AM
> *Subject:* [P2P-F] Fwd: Wired : learner centered movement
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Dante-Gabryell Monson* 
> Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:16 AM
> Subject: Wired : learner centered movement
> To: "econow...@googlegroups.com" , "
> netention-...@googlegroups.com" , "
> global-survi...@googlegroups.com" 
>
>
> http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/free-thinkers/*
> *
> *a new breed of educators, inspired by everything from the Internet to
> evolutionary psychology, neuroscience, and AI, are inventing radical new
> ways for children to learn, grow, and thrive. To them, knowledge isn’t a
> commodity that’s delivered from teacher to student but something that
> emerges from the students’ own curiosity-fueled exploration.*
> entire article : http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/free-thinkers/all/
> *student centered movement :
> http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/student-centered-movement/*
> " TED has created a toolkit full of ideas for jumpstarting
> student-centered learning in your home, local community, or school. It’s
> called SOLE: How to Bring Self-Organized Learning Environments to Your
> Community. Download it here <http://www.ted.com/pages/sole_toolkit> and
> share your story afterward on the SOLE Tumblr <http://tedsole.tumblr.com/>
> ."
> further large excerpts :
> Teachers provide prompts, not answers, and then they step aside so
> students can teach themselves and one another. They are creating ways for
> children to discover their passion—and uncovering a generation of geniuses
> in the process.
> ...
> “If you put a computer in front of children and remove all other adult
> restrictions, they will self-organize around it,” Mitra says, “like bees
> around a flower.”
> A charismatic and convincing proselytizer, Mitra has become a darling in
> the tech world. In early 2013 he won a $1 million grant from TED, the
> global ideas conference, to pursue his work.
> He’s now in the process of establishing seven “schools in the cloud,” five
> in India and two in the UK. In India, most of his schools are single-room
> buildings. There will be no teachers, curriculum, or separation into age
> groups—just six or so computers and a woman to look after the kids’ safety.
> His defining principle: “The children are completely in charge.”
> Mitra argues that the information revolution has enabled a style of
> learning that wasn’t possible before.
> ...
> Mitra’s work has roots in educational practices dating back to Socrates.
> Theorists from Johann Heinrich Pestalozzi to Jean Piaget and Maria
> Montessori have argued that students should learn by playing and following
> their curiosity.
> ...
> In recent years, researchers have begun backing up those theories with
> evidence. In a 2011 study, scientists at the University of Illinois at
> Urbana-Champaign and the University of Iowa scanned the brain activity of
> 16 people sitting in front of a computer screen.
> ...
> The study found that when the subjects controlled their own observations,
> they exhibited more coordination between the hippocampus and other parts of
> the brain involved in learning and posted a 23 percent improvement in their
> ability to remember objects. “The bottom line is, if you’re not the one
> who’s controlling your learning, you’re not going to learn as well,” says
> lead researcher Joel Voss, now a neuroscientist at Northwestern University.
> ...
> A similar study at UC Berkeley demonstrated that kids given no instruction
> were much more likely to come up with novel solutions to a problem. “The
> science is brand-new, but it’s not as if people didn’t have this intuition
> before,” says coauthor Alison Gopnik, a professor of psychology at UC
> Berkeley.
> Gopnik’s research is informed in part by advances in artificial
> intelligence. If you program a robot’s every movement, she says, it can’t
> adapt to anything unexpected. But when scientists build machines that are
> programmed to try a variety of motions and learn from mistakes, the robots
> become far more adaptable and skilled. The same principle applies to
> children, she says.
> ...
> Evolutionary psychologists have also begun exploring this way of thinking.
> Peter Gray, a research professor at Boston College who studies children’s
> natural ways of learning, argues that human cognitive machinery is
> fundamentally incompatible with conventional schooling. Gray points out
> that young children, motiv

[P2P-F] Biens communs : de la nature à la connaissance ( Streamed Event )

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http://www.bpi.fr/fr/agenda/conferences_et_debats/cultures_numeriques/biens_communs_de_la_nature_a_la_connaissance.html
Biens communs : de la nature à la connaissance
mis à jour le 01/10/13
Cycle : Cultures numériquesDébat
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*Le lundi 14/10/2013 - 19h*

*Centre Pompidou, Petite Salle (niveau -1)*




*Cette séance sera filmée et retransmise en direct sur notre site.

*

Dans un monde secoué par les crises écologiques et économiques, l’État et
le marché sont souvent opposés, l’un tenant le rôle de victime et l’autre
de coupable. De nombreuses initiatives montrent pourtant que lorsque des
citoyens s’organisent collectivement, les oppositions entre privé et
public, entre marchand et non-marchand sont dépassées. Développement des
jardins partagés, co-voiturage, logiciels libres, monnaies complémentaires
ou encore économie sociale et solidaire ne sont que quelques exemples parmi
d’autres …
Qu’il s’agisse de l’exploitation ou de la préservation de ressources
naturelles (échanges de graines, gestion de l’eau) ou de l’élaboration de
savoirs immatériels (code génétique, logiciel, morceau de musique…), des
communautés s’en emparent et l’on parle alors de biens communs. Comment
peut-on les définir précisément ? Quelle est l’histoire de ce mode de
gestion ? Quelle est la différence entre les biens communs de la Nature et
les biens communs de la connaissance?


   - *Programme*

   Avec :

   *Hervé Le Crosnie*r, enseignant chercheur en informatique et sciences de
   l’information et éditeur multimédia.

   *Didier Christin*, ingénieur doctorant. Ses travaux portent sur la
   gestion de l'eau et les biens communs.

   *Michel Bauwens*, théoricien des systèmes pair-à-pair, fondateur de la
   P2P Foundation, auteur et conférencier.

   Animé par *Hubert Guillaud*, rédacteur en chef du site Internet Actu.net
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[P2P-F] ARTE - Un monde sans humains

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEWOESrZDwQ

*" Ont les machines pour seul but d'améliorer notre existence ?

Derrière l'objectif de Philippe Borrel, des savants et des experts prônent
l'avènement d'une société dans laquelle des hommes hybrides seraient
connectés en réseau et se verraient remplacer par des cyborgs pour les
tâches pénibles.

Ce documentaire lève le voile sur un univers futuriste, plus réel et
imminent qu'il n'y paraît. "*
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Re: [P2P-F] Suggestions for Nominations ? Fwd: Launch of The Purpose Economy 100

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

note : there are various entries.

For example there are entries for proposals of nominations to individuals
in :  activism and advocacy , art+design , finance , food , government,
hospitality , education , etc

for each of them, I can think of people in our networks that certainly
deserve some recognition :)



On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks more "CSR" and business oriented,
> but just in case one has someone in mind to nominate to their purpose
> economy list  ...
>
> *http://www.imperative.com/pe100/*
>
> http://www.imperative.com/
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Aaron Hurst 
> Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:00 PM
> Subject: Launch of The Purpose Economy 100
> To: Dante 
>
>
> Hi Dante,
>
> I hope you're well. Exciting news today - we're working with CSRWire to
> identify the top 100 leaders of the Purpose Economy - those who are
> enabling the economy to shift to better serve people and the planet.
>
> I'd love get your input here on who should be nominated:
> imperative.com/pe100. The list will be published and widely promoted
> early in 2014 in conjunction with the official release of my new book, The
> Purpose Economy.
>
> Also, if you could help us spread the word via your social networks to
> ensure we get diverse nominations, I've included some blurbs you could use:
>
> Twitter:
> Nominate an Influencer! @Imperative + @CSRwire launch #PE100 to find the
> top 100 leaders of the @PurposeEconomy: http://bit.ly/1h8uBkz
>
> Facebook/Linkedin:
> CALL FOR NOMINATIONS! Imperative and CSRwire join forces to find top 100
> leaders of the Purpose Economy. These pioneers are integrating personal,
> professional and social purpose in today's workforce. Nominate your
> influencer here: http://bit.ly/1h8uBkz
>
> Thanks so much for helping shape and share this effort. Your input means a
> lot.
>
> With purpose,
>
> Aaron
>
> Aaron Hurst
> CEO | Imperative
> m | 415 225 6398
> @Aaron_Hurst
>
> This email was sent to dante.mon...@gmail.com.
>
>
>
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[P2P-F] Suggestions for Nominations ? Fwd: Launch of The Purpose Economy 100

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Looks more "CSR" and business oriented,
but just in case one has someone in mind to nominate to their purpose
economy list  ...

*http://www.imperative.com/pe100/*

http://www.imperative.com/

-- Forwarded message --
From: Aaron Hurst 
Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:00 PM
Subject: Launch of The Purpose Economy 100
To: Dante 


Hi Dante,

I hope you're well. Exciting news today - we're working with CSRWire to
identify the top 100 leaders of the Purpose Economy - those who are
enabling the economy to shift to better serve people and the planet.

I'd love get your input here on who should be nominated:
imperative.com/pe100. The list will be published and widely promoted early
in 2014 in conjunction with the official release of my new book, The
Purpose Economy.

Also, if you could help us spread the word via your social networks to
ensure we get diverse nominations, I've included some blurbs you could use:

Twitter:
Nominate an Influencer! @Imperative + @CSRwire launch #PE100 to find the
top 100 leaders of the @PurposeEconomy: http://bit.ly/1h8uBkz

Facebook/Linkedin:
CALL FOR NOMINATIONS! Imperative and CSRwire join forces to find top 100
leaders of the Purpose Economy. These pioneers are integrating personal,
professional and social purpose in today's workforce. Nominate your
influencer here: http://bit.ly/1h8uBkz

Thanks so much for helping shape and share this effort. Your input means a
lot.

With purpose,

Aaron

Aaron Hurst
CEO | Imperative
m | 415 225 6398
@Aaron_Hurst

This email was sent to dante.mon...@gmail.com.
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Re: [P2P-F] Netention seen as Neuroeconomics ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Seth.

Your response to the
Neuroeconomics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroeconomics> wikipedia
page with pages from the OpenCog project ( artificial intelligence ) leads
me to learn about
the "forgetting agent <http://wiki.opencog.org/w/ForgettingAgent>" and
the "Importance
Spreading Agent <http://wiki.opencog.org/w/ImportanceSpreadingAgent>",
which make me smile, especially when I imagine it in a Anthropomorphic way
:)

Attention Allocation <http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Attention_allocation> also
leads me to remember
http://p2pfoundation.net/Attention_Economy

*The Attention <http://p2pfoundation.net/Attention> Economy = an economy
driven by the exchange of attention*

*the Implicit Goal of Attention Economy is: to tightly intertwine everyone
at the level of mind*

- Michael Goldhaber
http://p2pfoundation.net/Attention_Economy_Graphs
http://p2pfoundation.net/Intention_Economy
http://p2pfoundation.net/Process_Economy


Also , for those of us that understand french ( Helene ? Michel ? ) ,  in
relation to neuroeconomics, see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIXaROv7bIU
found via Stiegler's platform
http://pharmakon.fr/wordpress/academie-dete-de-lecole-de-philosophie-depineuil-le-fleuriel/academie-2013/

My ( Dante's ) critic in relation to the Neuroeconomics as I understand
from that video presentation, is that the person presenting it does not yet
seem to break down the type of money units/tokens used based on the
contracts and transactions these tokens are based on ( and the awareness of
their - political - implications / externalities )  ,

and hence distorts "neuroeconomics" into , imho , awareness limited within
the interests of dominant protocols in a limited political economic
framework  , as it does not , as presented in that video , break down
awareness to the political interests and dynamics from the units used.

In addition, *I believe we need to create a Neuroeconomics that can also
include a granular understanding of constructs of a commons, and/or gift
economics, together ( and/or intertwined ) with other relational dynamics (
such as - see Fiske :
http://p2pfoundation.net/Relational_Model_Typology_-_Fiske  )*

Although he gives examples of Neuroeconomics on animals using other units,
such as juice or food, he then returns to study with humans based on money
( created out of protocols , imho , by , and in support of , the current
monopolistic political economy ).



On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:20 PM, SeH  wrote:

> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Category:ECAN
> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Attention_allocation
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroeconomics
>>
>> *Neuroeconomics* is an interdisciplinary field that seeks to explain
>> human decision making <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_making>,
>> the ability to process multiple alternatives and to choose an optimal
>> course of action. It studies how economic behavior can shape our
>> understanding of the brain, and how neuroscientific discoveries can
>> constrain and guide models of 
>> economics.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroeconomics#cite_note-neuroeconomics.duke.edu-1>
>>
>> It combines research methods from 
>> neuroscience<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience>
>> , experimental <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_economics> and 
>> behavioral
>> economics <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_economics>, and
>> cognitive <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_psychology> and 
>> social<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_psychology_(psychology)> 
>> psychology.
>> As research into decision-making behavior becomes increasingly
>> computational, it has also incorporated new approaches from theoretical
>> biology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoretical_biology>, computer
>> science <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science>, and 
>> mathematics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics>.
>> Neuroeconomics studies decision making, by using a combination of tools
>> from these fields so as to avoid the shortcomings that arise from a
>> single-perspective approach. In mainstream 
>> economics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_economics>
>> , expected utility<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_utility_hypothesis> 
>> (EU),
>> and the concept of rational 
>> agents<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_agents>,
>> are still being used. Many economic behaviors are not fully explained by
>> these models, such as heuristics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristics>
>>  and framing 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(social_sciences)>.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroeconomics#cite_note-annualreviews.org-2>
>>
>
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Re: [P2P-F] A currency proposal

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Hi Apostolis,

I feel that , although it is still in development / in prototype stage,
you could use Netention to set up and invite others to participate in such
information architecture.

https://github.com/automenta/netentionjs2

It would also become possible to see overlaps between different implemented
( or suggested ) information architectures. ( including the current
mainstream and monopolistic corporate credit information architecture )

http://www.netention.org/

a prototype android interface is also in development.


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <
xekou...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis 
> Date: 2013/8/24
> Subject: [Ripple] Re: Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
> To: rippleus...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Hailie Bosque,
>
> This money is quite different than any other you have seen, it isn't the
> non-transferrable money that Marx was talking about.
> The problem it tries to solve is to block the accumulation of money to a
> few people. For that, it is important to understand 2 processes.
>
> a)the cycle of accumulation: Even today that we have a centralization of
> power, in order for money to create more money, one needs to spread an
> amount of money to multiple people, the workers who will work for the
> capitalist so that he eventually gets more money. Thus this cycle of money
> starts from a centralized point to a distributed number of workers and
> eventually back to the centralized point.
>
> b) There are 2 types of work in most production processes, the one is the
> initial work for the construction of a factory or other tools. This is
> called fixed capital. The other is the work of the people that operate the
> tools and the factory. The second workers cannot pay in advance the first
> workers. Thus they rely on the capitalist to give the money and in return
> they sell their working power lower than the price they would ask otherwise.
>
>
> Now I' ll give you an example.
> Let's say that we are able to track the transfers of property, either
> products or money.
> Lets also assume for this example that we only have worker cooperatives
> that own the tools they are using in direct contrast to current capitalism.
>
> Capitalist -->Factory Workers -->Workers--->Consumers---\
>  ^
>   |
>  \**--**
> /
>
> Cap gives money to factory workers, and they give him a factory.
> Cap gives the factory to the workers, and they accept to give him back a
> percentage of their earnings.
>
> Here lies a problem:
>
> The money that the capitalist payed the factory workers is different than
> the money he got from the Workers. This is due to b).
> My proposal is that the workers in general,(here the factory workers)
> should be able to reclaim back their products and the money one gets from
> them in a future time.
>
> This is how it can be done.
> At any time, the workers(here the factory workers) make a cheaper offer of
> their products to the consumers (here the workers).
> At the same time, they are obliged to build a new factory for the
> capitalist.
> Thus, they switch back their old work with new work.
>
> If we allow that, there can be no profits for the capitalist, or the
> profits will be decentralizedly split between the factory workers.
> Thus because of a) we have a distributed ownership of products/money.
>
>
> Till now I have used the term money quite vaguely. What I really mean is
> that each worker/worker cooperative creates his own currencies which
> correspond to the products they make.
>
> ex.
> I make clothes, thus I have a t-shirt currency.
> I own 5 bread currencies, 30 chair c. and 5 motorbike c.
>
> I give 5 motorbile c in exchange for 1 car c.
> Unless I explicitelly state that the car c. is for personal use and thus
> non-transferable,
> the motorbike workers could reclaim their 5 motorbike c. and thus the 1
> car c. i got.
> They could offer to give my 5 bike c. plus one in exchange of the car c.
> I would receive 5 new motorbike currencies.
>
>
> This is the basic idea. I am always happy when people point me to errors.
> This is as of yet unfinished work.
> (keep in mind that workers should always own the tools they are using,
> this is a prerequisitive, it can be done easilly, i think)
>
> For this to be done it mostly requires computer programming. Because of
> the advances in computer programming this is quite feasible, (think of
> facebook, google) and open source big data tools.
>
> (it may take me some time to respond)
>
> On Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:53:03 AM UTC+3, Hailie Bosque wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, I'm trying to get in touch with Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis.
>>
>> You posted something on an internet forum about your ideas for an
>> anarchist-socialist economy with non-circulating currency.
>>
>> I'd like to hear more about this, but you no longer use that internet
>> forum, so I found you here

[P2P-F] P2P, Not for Profits, and Pro-Bono ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

broadly related to the thread below, found out about this pro-bono network
in support of not for profits
*
*
*http://www.taprootfoundation.org/* <http://www.taprootfoundation.org/>

via

http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130820122502-201849-success-right-tech-at-right-time

http://www.scribd.com/doc/152482286/Bringing-Purpose-Creativity-to-Work

excerpt :

" *Today there are over 250,000 **foundations in their database "*
*
*
*" The Foundation Center would soon be not only a resource for nonprofits
seeking financial grants but also service grants, grants of pro bono s
ervice. "
*

Post Scriptum : I do hope we can organize our own pro-bono distributed
databases, using semantic technology / web approaches,
such as for example

http://netention.org

code in development : https://github.com/automenta/netentionjs2

For example, one of the netention instances in development focuses on a
semantic cv ...

see : http://www.netention.org/semantic-learning/


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Marco Giustini wrote:

> IOPS is a political international association related to Z Communications
> (Z Magazine, Z Net). I'm part of Z Net Italy and I translated their
> manifesto in italian.
>
> 2013/8/20 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>
>> Meaning ... we better do not count on a "political economy" of grants ...
>> ?
>> Governmental or Private ?
>>
>> ... nor on monetized capitalist social entrepreneurship dependent on
>> priorities of ( big ) investors ? ...
>>
>> Instead focusing our efforts on a social economy aimed at reducing
>> dependency on corporate tokens ,  as only resort to create less
>> hierarchical non artificially scarce interdependency systems and further
>> opportunities to empower emergent collective intelligence ?
>>
>> further excerpts from
>>
>>
>> http://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country
>>
>> " As Buffett suggests, this growth in elite largesse, totaling $316
>> billion <http://www.cnbc.com/id/100831257> in 2012, has done little to
>> combat economic inequality. But the problem isn’t just one of
>> ineffectiveness. A recent 
>> paper<http://ideas.repec.org/a/kap/jecinq/v9y2011i1p1-21.html> published
>> in the Journal of Economic Inequality shows philanthropy hasn’t simply
>> failed to meet its goals; it’s made the situation worse. "
>> ...
>>
>> " While pretending to fix inequality, contemporary philanthropy’s actual
>> role has been to strengthen the arrangements that make gross inequality
>> possible in the first place. "
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> or possibly simply my own misunderstanding, the author possibly giving
>>> examples of organizations who are bottom up and not financed through
>>> philanthropy.
>>>
>>> in that case, we could add a whole long endless list, including many of
>>> the individuals on this p2pfoundation list ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jenny.
>>>> before answering,
>>>> just want to say I'm glad to read you here on this list.
>>>> I've noticed some of your initiatives and want to state there is
>>>> overlap in some of our approaches.
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I kept the question mark, having the same question.
>>>>
>>>> via the following reference I am lead to see a connection with
>>>> Philanthropy  :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country
>>>>
>>>> *" Of course, there are occasional flickers of light that emerge from
>>>> the nonprofit world. Foundations like Marian Wright Edelman’s Children’s
>>>> Defense Fund <http://www.childrensdefense.org/>, growing out of Martin
>>>> Luther King, Jr.’s Poor People’s Campaign to advocate for working-class
>>>> families, and the new International Organization for a Participatory
>>>> Society <http://www.iopsociety.org/about>, seeking to build a
>>>> bottom-up, classless global society, work for the poor and powerless in
>>>> important ways. "*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A mistake from the article to connect it to Philanthropy ? ...
>>>>

Re: [P2P-F] New Philanthropic Organization ? : International Organization for a Participatory Society

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Meaning ... we better do not count on a "political economy" of grants ... ?
Governmental or Private ?

... nor on monetized capitalist social entrepreneurship dependent on
priorities of ( big ) investors ? ...

Instead focusing our efforts on a social economy aimed at reducing
dependency on corporate tokens ,  as only resort to create less
hierarchical non artificially scarce interdependency systems and further
opportunities to empower emergent collective intelligence ?

further excerpts from

http://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country

" As Buffett suggests, this growth in elite largesse, totaling $316
billion<http://www.cnbc.com/id/100831257> in
2012, has done little to combat economic inequality. But the problem isn’t
just one of ineffectiveness. A recent
paper<http://ideas.repec.org/a/kap/jecinq/v9y2011i1p1-21.html>
published
in the Journal of Economic Inequality shows philanthropy hasn’t simply
failed to meet its goals; it’s made the situation worse. "
...

" While pretending to fix inequality, contemporary philanthropy’s actual
role has been to strengthen the arrangements that make gross inequality
possible in the first place. "


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> or possibly simply my own misunderstanding, the author possibly giving
> examples of organizations who are bottom up and not financed through
> philanthropy.
>
> in that case, we could add a whole long endless list, including many of
> the individuals on this p2pfoundation list ;)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jenny.
>> before answering,
>> just want to say I'm glad to read you here on this list.
>> I've noticed some of your initiatives and want to state there is overlap
>> in some of our approaches.
>>
>> //
>>
>> Yes, I kept the question mark, having the same question.
>>
>> via the following reference I am lead to see a connection with
>> Philanthropy  :
>>
>>
>> http://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country
>>
>> *" Of course, there are occasional flickers of light that emerge from
>> the nonprofit world. Foundations like Marian Wright Edelman’s Children’s
>> Defense Fund <http://www.childrensdefense.org/>, growing out of Martin
>> Luther King, Jr.’s Poor People’s Campaign to advocate for working-class
>> families, and the new International Organization for a Participatory
>> Society <http://www.iopsociety.org/about>, seeking to build a bottom-up,
>> classless global society, work for the poor and powerless in important
>> ways. "*
>>
>>
>> A mistake from the article to connect it to Philanthropy ? ...
>> Or perhaps some info not publicly released the author knows about ?
>>
>> The wikipedia page says
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_a_Participatory_Society
>>
>> " Conceived in the circles of left-wing media group Z 
>> Communications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Communications>
>> [2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_a_Participatory_Society#cite_note-aljazeera_IOPS_aims-2>
>>  and
>> founded in January 2012 "
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Jenny Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> It's great language and all, but I'm unable to see how this is a
>>> philanthropic organization. Perhaps you can clarify why you introduce it as
>>> such?
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>> http://thepyre.org
>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>
>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>
>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>> it."
>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>
>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>>>> "www.iopsociety.org" claiming to be* 
>>>> http://vimeo.com/5785110

Re: [P2P-F] New Philanthropic Organization ? : International Organization for a Participatory Society

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

or possibly simply my own misunderstanding, the author possibly giving
examples of organizations who are bottom up and not financed through
philanthropy.

in that case, we could add a whole long endless list, including many of the
individuals on this p2pfoundation list ;)


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jenny.
> before answering,
> just want to say I'm glad to read you here on this list.
> I've noticed some of your initiatives and want to state there is overlap
> in some of our approaches.
>
> //
>
> Yes, I kept the question mark, having the same question.
>
> via the following reference I am lead to see a connection with
> Philanthropy  :
>
>
> http://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country
>
> *" Of course, there are occasional flickers of light that emerge from the
> nonprofit world. Foundations like Marian Wright Edelman’s Children’s
> Defense Fund <http://www.childrensdefense.org/>, growing out of Martin
> Luther King, Jr.’s Poor People’s Campaign to advocate for working-class
> families, and the new International Organization for a Participatory
> Society <http://www.iopsociety.org/about>, seeking to build a bottom-up,
> classless global society, work for the poor and powerless in important
> ways. "*
>
>
> A mistake from the article to connect it to Philanthropy ? ...
> Or perhaps some info not publicly released the author knows about ?
>
> The wikipedia page says
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_a_Participatory_Society
>
> " Conceived in the circles of left-wing media group Z 
> Communications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Communications>
> [2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_a_Participatory_Society#cite_note-aljazeera_IOPS_aims-2>
>  and
> founded in January 2012 "
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Jenny Ryan  wrote:
>
>> It's great language and all, but I'm unable to see how this is a
>> philanthropic organization. Perhaps you can clarify why you introduce it as
>> such?
>>
>> Jenny
>> http://jennyryan.net
>> http://thepyre.org
>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>
>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>> -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>> it."
>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>>> "www.iopsociety.org" claiming to be* 
>>> http://vimeo.com/57851102<http://www.iopsociety.org/about>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.iopsociety.org/about
>>>
>>> http://www.iopsociety.org/vision
>>>
>>> http://www.iopsociety.org/structure-and-program
>>>
>>> http://www.iopsociety.org/mission
>>>
>>>
>>> Key Goals & Priorities
>>>
>>>- IOPS is anti capitalist, anti racist, anti sexist, and anti
>>>authoritarian. It centrally addresses economics/class, politics,
>>>culture/race, kinship/gender, ecology, and international relations 
>>> without
>>>privileging any one focus above the rest.
>>>- IOPS seeks to transcend 20th Century market and centrally planned
>>>socialism with a new participatory society - or participatory socialism -
>>>that combines classless economy, feminist kinship, intercommunalist
>>>culture, and self managing polity.
>>>- IOPS flexibly explores and advocates long term vision sufficiently
>>>to inspire and orient current activity but does not advocate or seek to
>>>implement detailed blueprints that transcend movement needs and 
>>> knowledge.
>>>- IOPS sees social strategy and especially tactics as largely
>>>contingent on place and time and therefore continually revises shared 
>>> views
>>>in light of new evidence including regularly updating analysis, vision, 
>>> and
>>>strategy.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/iopsociety
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4buR4J3WPA
>>>
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Re: [P2P-F] New Philanthropic Organization ? : International Organization for a Participatory Society

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Jenny.
before answering,
just want to say I'm glad to read you here on this list.
I've noticed some of your initiatives and want to state there is overlap in
some of our approaches.

//

Yes, I kept the question mark, having the same question.

via the following reference I am lead to see a connection with Philanthropy
 :

http://truth-out.org/news/item/18279-how-billionaire-philanthropy-is-fueling-inequality-and-helping-to-destroy-the-country

*" Of course, there are occasional flickers of light that emerge from the
nonprofit world. Foundations like Marian Wright Edelman’s Children’s
Defense Fund <http://www.childrensdefense.org/>, growing out of Martin
Luther King, Jr.’s Poor People’s Campaign to advocate for working-class
families, and the new International Organization for a Participatory
Society<http://www.iopsociety.org/about>,
seeking to build a bottom-up, classless global society, work for the poor
and powerless in important ways. "*


A mistake from the article to connect it to Philanthropy ? ...
Or perhaps some info not publicly released the author knows about ?

The wikipedia page says

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_a_Participatory_Society

" Conceived in the circles of left-wing media group Z
Communications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Communications>
[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_a_Participatory_Society#cite_note-aljazeera_IOPS_aims-2>
and
founded in January 2012 "


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Jenny Ryan  wrote:

> It's great language and all, but I'm unable to see how this is a
> philanthropic organization. Perhaps you can clarify why you introduce it as
> such?
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
>  -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>> "www.iopsociety.org" claiming to be* 
>> http://vimeo.com/57851102<http://www.iopsociety.org/about>
>>
>>
>> http://www.iopsociety.org/about
>>
>> http://www.iopsociety.org/vision
>>
>> http://www.iopsociety.org/structure-and-program
>>
>> http://www.iopsociety.org/mission
>>
>>
>> Key Goals & Priorities
>>
>>- IOPS is anti capitalist, anti racist, anti sexist, and anti
>>authoritarian. It centrally addresses economics/class, politics,
>>culture/race, kinship/gender, ecology, and international relations without
>>privileging any one focus above the rest.
>>- IOPS seeks to transcend 20th Century market and centrally planned
>>socialism with a new participatory society - or participatory socialism -
>>that combines classless economy, feminist kinship, intercommunalist
>>culture, and self managing polity.
>>- IOPS flexibly explores and advocates long term vision sufficiently
>>to inspire and orient current activity but does not advocate or seek to
>>implement detailed blueprints that transcend movement needs and knowledge.
>>- IOPS sees social strategy and especially tactics as largely
>>contingent on place and time and therefore continually revises shared 
>> views
>>in light of new evidence including regularly updating analysis, vision, 
>> and
>>strategy.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/iopsociety
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4buR4J3WPA
>>
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[P2P-F] New Philanthropic Organization ? : International Organization for a Participatory Society

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://vimeo.com/57851102 


http://www.iopsociety.org/about

http://www.iopsociety.org/vision

http://www.iopsociety.org/structure-and-program

http://www.iopsociety.org/mission


Key Goals & Priorities

   - IOPS is anti capitalist, anti racist, anti sexist, and anti
   authoritarian. It centrally addresses economics/class, politics,
   culture/race, kinship/gender, ecology, and international relations without
   privileging any one focus above the rest.
   - IOPS seeks to transcend 20th Century market and centrally planned
   socialism with a new participatory society - or participatory socialism -
   that combines classless economy, feminist kinship, intercommunalist
   culture, and self managing polity.
   - IOPS flexibly explores and advocates long term vision sufficiently to
   inspire and orient current activity but does not advocate or seek to
   implement detailed blueprints that transcend movement needs and knowledge.
   - IOPS sees social strategy and especially tactics as largely contingent
   on place and time and therefore continually revises shared views in light
   of new evidence including regularly updating analysis, vision, and strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/user/iopsociety

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4buR4J3WPA
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Re: [P2P-F] Event - Lote 3 - Matera, Italy - October 29, November 3 2013

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://lote.edgeryders.eu/tickets/

excerpted :

How does it work? :

   - Join the EdgeRyders site <http://edgeryders.eu/user/register>.
   - Indicate on your profile that you are coming to the event. To do this,
   go here <http://edgeryders.eu/user>, click on “Edit my Edgeryders
   profile” (the middle button just above your name) and select the radio
   button “Yes, I am coming to LOTE – The unMonastery edition 29 October – 3
   November!” (it’s just under your name).
   - Take on at least one task by checking on your profile the things
   you’re up for volunteering with, and start working!
   - Introduce yourself to others coming in #LOTE event
group<http://edgeryders.eu/making-lote3> and
   submit a post with your ideas or questions for the event.
   - *be sure to do this immediately*. This is a huge organizational
   effort, and we need some lead time to get it together.

More details about the event setup and Edgeryders, the organisation hosting
it, in this post <http://edgeryders.eu/blog/lote3-save-the-date>!

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Want to join at Lote 3 ? ( two previous ones where in Brussels and
> Strasbourg )
>
> *http://lote.edgeryders.eu/* <http://lote.edgeryders.eu/>
>
> http://edgeryders.eu/making-lote3
>
> http://edgeryders.eu/making-lote3/whos-coming-table
>
> 48 people registered till now.
>
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[P2P-F] Event - Lote 3 - Matera, Italy - October 29, November 3 2013

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Want to join at *Lote 3* ? ( Lote 1 was in Strasbourg, Lote 2 in Brussels )

*http://lote.edgeryders.eu/* 

http://edgeryders.eu/making-lote3

http://edgeryders.eu/making-lote3/whos-coming-table

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Re: [P2P-F] The (a)political economy of Bitcoin

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*"Any idea how such digital currency could look like?"*

yes, my answer to this :
contextualizations as currencies. ( including past, present, and suggested
futures )

in effect, creating a resource allocation and emergent governance system
combined with choices as for engagements into intentional economic networks
( that is, graphs with past, present, and suggested inter-dependencies ).

A currency is a "medium of exchange" (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency )

Contextualizations can serve as mediums of exchange, when it enables
participating agents ( artificial or biological forms of intelligence )

to choose where to engage their attention and resources, or where to
receive attention or resources to resolve current or projected needs.

It can also do so for systemic needs that can become more apparent as data
and metadata start building up in such emergent graphs.

I wish to use REA ontology as a starting point to deconstruct current
transactions and social contracts ( with a variety of metadata )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resources,_events,_agents_(accounting_model)

One can for example deconstruct and visualize what we currently call money
( fiat IOU's issued with interest by a centralized corporate banking
network ), and compare it with a variety of other contracts. ( which in
effect become social contracts when they become more generally accepted /
legitimized )

I wish to use Netention as a way of contextualizing such deconstructed data
and metadata, accross all types of contracts, and to visualize the re-use
for non-linear transactions of such metadata creation ( I see credit as
metadata used in non linear transactions )

https://github.com/automenta/netentionjs2

I personally believe that increased transparency regarding such
interdependencies, and the reputation effects it has in relation to active
agents, becomes the new currency.

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Fabio Barone  wrote:

> Great article Vasilis,
>
> resumes in very concise manner what I have tried to express so many times.
> Now, I am thinking 5 years how about alternative currencies.
> I am also a software developer, and I believe that we should be able
> to use crypto-currencies for:
>
> "... Commons-oriented currency designed to serve effectively social
> purposes"
>
> So the question really is, how to design such a currency that:
> "Therefore, we, as commoners, conclude that what we need is a digital
> currency premised on a different political economy, one breaking the
> shackles of capitalist opportunism and ushering in a new era of economical
> transaction based on the finer aspects of the human spirit."
>
> I completely agree, and the answer is not technological, but one of design.
> Any idea how such digital currency could look like?
>
>
>
>
> 2013/7/13 olivier auber 
>
>> Well done Vasilis! I mentionned your article in a comment on KurzweilAI.
>>
>>
>> http://www.kurzweilai.net/jobocalypse-the-end-of-human-jobs-and-how-robots-will-replace-them
>>
>> hope that Kurweil & Co will not uderstand that we need a Google money ;-)
>>
>> Olivier Auber
>> http://poietic-generator.net
>> http://twitter.com/#!/OlivierAuber
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Vasilis Kostakis 
>> wrote:
>> > fyi:
>> >
>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-apolitical-economy-of-bitcoin/2013/07/11
>> >
>> > --
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[P2P-F] "NetGraph Project" : Pascal Jollivet and Joanne Antonetti - TedX Nantes

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Personal comment :

The presentation of the NetGraph is basically the same concept I try to
support in the last years when supporting http://netention.org

/

Ted presentation *in english*. ( youtube link )

Empowering multitudes: The NetGraph Project: Pascal Jollivet and Joanne
Antonetti at TEDxMinesNantes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbxUGP8ymzc

keywords : *"I do exist through the interaction within the network" ,
"trans-individuation"*

*///*


He also mentions multitudes, and *Yann Moulier-Boutang* , with whom Pascal
collaborates

http://moodle.utc.fr/mod/resource/view.php?id=30126
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[P2P-F] Pascal Jollivet : "Open Labs and Complex City"

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4 minute Interview in French

https://soundcloud.com/hackyourphd/hyphd-au-quebec-pascal-jollivet-recherche-complex-city

some keywords : *"open labs" , "complex city" ,  ... "L'idée est de créer
une ville participative et contributive. Le projet est de faire un jeu
sérieux massif alterné. "*

...

///

Pascal Jollivet professeur à L'Université Technologique de Compiègne (UTC)
et chercheur au Laboratoire COSTECH dans le groupe CRI (Coopération Risque
Innovation)

Présentation de Netgraph lors du colloque la révolution de la science
ouverte
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbxUGP8ymzc

Extraits :
"Ce qui ne va pas dans la recherche aujourd'hui, c'est le conformisme et le
formatage des chercheurs. Ils sont souvent sélectionnés sur le critère de
leur conformisme."
"La recherche doit être plus enchâssée dans la société, moins hors sol,
moins en parallèle sans toucher les enjeux sociaux"
"les open labs sont de belles initiatives. Par exemple, il y a le projet
sino-européen que nous montons- complex city-
L'idée est de créer une ville participative et contributive. Le projet est
de faire un jeu sérieux massif alterné.
Les bâtiments sont déjà modélisés en 3D. Avant d'être construits, les gens
vont pouvoir vivre virtuellement dans la ville en réalité alternée"
moodle.utc.fr/file.php/7/DD01_20…nd_cities-_1.2.pdf

Note: science société/ chercheur (individu) / science participative
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Re: [P2P-F] Special report : a basic minimum income in India

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Fantastic ! Thanks Olivier for the link regarding this basic income project
in India.

Reminds me of a similar project in Namibia

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-new-approach-to-aid-how-a-basic-income-program-saved-a-namibian-village-a-642310.html

also see : http://www.bignam.org/BIG_pilot.html ,
http://www.bignam.org/BIG_publications.html

Unfortunatly the contination of the Namibian project seems to have been
discouraged by certain institutions ( influence of international
institutions ? - see excerpts below )

Ideally, I would like to see such project emerge while supporting
alternative currencies - I imagine a regio type of currency, backed by the
basic income - so that it further encourages local production and regional
economic development, further vector of development and empowerment,
avoiding money to get out of the system, and ideally also applying
demurrage to the alternative currency ( and an exchange tax ) as to reduce
hoarding / create further incentives for circulation of the currency within
the local economy ...

///

www.bien2012.org/sites/default/files/paper_196_en.pdf

excerpt :

*Despite this economic evidence by the BIG Coalition*
*and the arguments for the positive social and developmental impact of a
BIG to curb the high and*
*unsustainable levels of poverty in Namibia, the IMF delegation made its
opposition to the BIG clear.*
*The IMF insisted that it will continue to advise government accordingly.
It thus is obvious that the IMF*
*entered the debate against the BIG on pure ideological grounds and not
based on economic or social*
*considerations!*

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM, olivier auber wrote:

> Rupees in your pocket
>
> An experiment in paying villagers in one of India’s poorest states an
> unconditional basic income has been successful enough to change the
> government’s thinking.
>
> "The idea of unconditional income comes from the failure of
> conditional programmes. As soon as there are conditions, there is
> erosion. Conditionality means intermediaries, which means power, which
> means corruption.”
>
> http://mondediplo.com/2013/05/04income
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Re: [P2P-F] Functional Stupidity

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

( follow up on thread )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Society_of_the_Spectacle

*" In his analysis of the spectacular society, Debord notes that quality of
life is 
impoverished,[7]
with
such lack of authenticity, human
perceptions are
affected, and there's also a degradation of knowledge, with the hindering
of critical thought . "*
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Re: [P2P-F] Functional Stupidity

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

also of interest :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IDsnCrSfzCQ#t=1916s

and at 34'26 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IDsnCrSfzCQ#t=2067s

*capital, violence, and stupidity determining world events...*


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> + french article further below
> note : Orange Meme Information System ?
> Can be replaced by more optimal Turquoise Meme Information Systems ? (
> such as Anoptic <http://p2pfoundation.net/Anoptism> information Systems )
>
>
> http://www.spiraldynamics-integral.nl/uploads/images/headers/Value_systems.jpg
>
> (cf.
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1467-6486.2012.01072.x/abstract)
> :
>
> In this paper we question the one-sided thesis that contemporary
> organizations rely on the mobilization of cognitive capacities. We suggest
> that severe restrictions on these capacities in the form of what we call
> functional stupidity are an equally important if under-recognized part of
> organizational life. Functional stupidity refers to an absence of
> reflexivity, a refusal to use intellectual capacities in other than myopic
> ways, and avoidance of justifications. We argue that functional stupidity
> is prevalent in contexts dominated by economy in persuasion which
> emphasizes image and symbolic manipulation. This gives rise to forms of
> stupidity management that repress or marginalize doubt and block
> communicative action. In turn, this structures individuals' internal
> conversations in ways that emphasize positive and coherent narratives and
> marginalize more negative or ambiguous ones. This can have productive
> outcomes such as providing a degree of certainty for individuals and
> organizations. But it can have corrosive consequences such as creating a
> sense of dissonance among individuals and the organization as a whole. The
> positive consequences can give rise to self-reinforcing stupidity. The
> negative consequences can spark dialogue, which may undermine functional
> stupidity.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Fwd: La stupidité fonctionnelle - Finance : "fais d'abord,
> réfléchis après" ?
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Caroline Stiegler
> Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:44 AM
> Subject: La stupidité fonctionnelle
> To: dante.mon...@gmail.com
>
>
> Chers adhérents et abonnés,
>
> Nous vous recommandons vivement la lecture de
>
> "La « stupidité fonctionnelle » à l’origine de la crise financière"
>
> article accessible à partir du lien suivant :
>
>
> http://bigbrowser.blog.lemonde.fr/2013/02/14/la-loi-et-lordre-la-stupidite-fonctionnelle-a-lorigine-de-la-crise-financiere/
>
> et qui est introduit ainsi par le quotidien Le Monde : “Selon une étude
> britannique, le monde de la finance serait dicté par l'attitude "fais
> d'abord, réfléchis après"”.
>
> Ce qui est ici nommé functionnal stupidity désigne très précisément ce que
> nous appelons la bêtise systémique (stupidity se traduit très généralement
> en français par bêtise). Voici le résumé en anglais de l’étude publiée par
> le Journal of management studies (cf.
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1467-6486.2012.01072.x/abstract)
> :
>
> In this paper we question the one-sided thesis that contemporary
> organizations rely on the mobilization of cognitive capacities. We suggest
> that severe restrictions on these capacities in the form of what we call
> functional stupidity are an equally important if under-recognized part of
> organizational life. Functional stupidity refers to an absence of
> reflexivity, a refusal to use intellectual capacities in other than myopic
> ways, and avoidance of justifications. We argue that functional stupidity
> is prevalent in contexts dominated by economy in persuasion which
> emphasizes image and symbolic manipulation. This gives rise to forms of
> stupidity management that repress or marginalize doubt and block
> communicative action. In turn, this structures individuals' internal
> conversations in ways that emphasize positive and coherent narratives and
> marginalize more negative or ambiguous ones. This can have productive
> outcomes such as providing a degree of certainty for individuals and
> organizations. But it can have corrosive consequences such as creating a
> sense of dissonance among individuals and the organization as a whole. The
> positive consequences can give rise to self-reinforcing stupidity. The
> negative consequences can spark dialogue, which may undermine functional
> stupidity.
>
> Bien cordialement,
> Caroline Stiegler
>
>
>
>
>
&g

[P2P-F] Functional Stupidity

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/3842-stupid-business-moves.html

New research has found that *functional stupidity* can help companies in
the short term by blocking doubt and communication.

"It is a double-edged sword. It is functional because it has some
advantages and makes people concentrate enthusiastically on the task in
hand," said Alvesson, who conducted the research with colleague André
Spicer. "It is stupid because risks and problems may arise when people do
not pose critical questions about what they and the organization are
doing."
...
Not surprisingly, certain industries are more likely to accept functional
stupidity as a part of their corporate identity. In particular, the
researchers found that industries that sell intangible services and branded
products are more likely to develop atmospheres with functional stupidity.


"Functional stupidity is prominent in economies that are dominated by
persuasion using images and symbolic manipulation," said Alvesson. "It is
preferable that people have an enthusiastic
belief
in
an activity which may not necessarily fulfill a need. New management may be
required to manage the fine balance and possible pitfalls of functional
stupidity."

The research was published in the November issue of the Journal of
Management Studies.
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[P2P-F] Functional Stupidity

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+ french article further below
note : Orange Meme Information System ?
Can be replaced by more optimal Turquoise Meme Information Systems ? ( such
as Anoptic  information Systems )

http://www.spiraldynamics-integral.nl/uploads/images/headers/Value_systems.jpg

(cf.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1467-6486.2012.01072.x/abstract)
:

In this paper we question the one-sided thesis that contemporary
organizations rely on the mobilization of cognitive capacities. We suggest
that severe restrictions on these capacities in the form of what we call
functional stupidity are an equally important if under-recognized part of
organizational life. Functional stupidity refers to an absence of
reflexivity, a refusal to use intellectual capacities in other than myopic
ways, and avoidance of justifications. We argue that functional stupidity
is prevalent in contexts dominated by economy in persuasion which
emphasizes image and symbolic manipulation. This gives rise to forms of
stupidity management that repress or marginalize doubt and block
communicative action. In turn, this structures individuals' internal
conversations in ways that emphasize positive and coherent narratives and
marginalize more negative or ambiguous ones. This can have productive
outcomes such as providing a degree of certainty for individuals and
organizations. But it can have corrosive consequences such as creating a
sense of dissonance among individuals and the organization as a whole. The
positive consequences can give rise to self-reinforcing stupidity. The
negative consequences can spark dialogue, which may undermine functional
stupidity.






Subject: Fwd: La stupidité fonctionnelle - Finance : "fais d'abord,
réfléchis après" ?

-- Forwarded message --
From: Caroline Stiegler
Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:44 AM
Subject: La stupidité fonctionnelle
To: dante.mon...@gmail.com


Chers adhérents et abonnés,

Nous vous recommandons vivement la lecture de

"La « stupidité fonctionnelle » à l’origine de la crise financière"

article accessible à partir du lien suivant :

http://bigbrowser.blog.lemonde.fr/2013/02/14/la-loi-et-lordre-la-stupidite-fonctionnelle-a-lorigine-de-la-crise-financiere/

et qui est introduit ainsi par le quotidien Le Monde : “Selon une étude
britannique, le monde de la finance serait dicté par l'attitude "fais
d'abord, réfléchis après"”.

Ce qui est ici nommé functionnal stupidity désigne très précisément ce que
nous appelons la bêtise systémique (stupidity se traduit très généralement
en français par bêtise). Voici le résumé en anglais de l’étude publiée par
le Journal of management studies (cf.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1467-6486.2012.01072.x/abstract)
:

In this paper we question the one-sided thesis that contemporary
organizations rely on the mobilization of cognitive capacities. We suggest
that severe restrictions on these capacities in the form of what we call
functional stupidity are an equally important if under-recognized part of
organizational life. Functional stupidity refers to an absence of
reflexivity, a refusal to use intellectual capacities in other than myopic
ways, and avoidance of justifications. We argue that functional stupidity
is prevalent in contexts dominated by economy in persuasion which
emphasizes image and symbolic manipulation. This gives rise to forms of
stupidity management that repress or marginalize doubt and block
communicative action. In turn, this structures individuals' internal
conversations in ways that emphasize positive and coherent narratives and
marginalize more negative or ambiguous ones. This can have productive
outcomes such as providing a degree of certainty for individuals and
organizations. But it can have corrosive consequences such as creating a
sense of dissonance among individuals and the organization as a whole. The
positive consequences can give rise to self-reinforcing stupidity. The
negative consequences can spark dialogue, which may undermine functional
stupidity.

Bien cordialement,
Caroline Stiegler




























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Re: [P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thanks Olivier !

I like the word / concept of Anopticism, which I got to know about through
you / p2pfoundation wiki <http://p2pfoundation.net/Anoptism>,

and mentioned it not later then yesterday in some other exchange.

Thanks for having clarified it on this conversation thread :)

I hope we can find ways of collaborating around making such solutions more
available, technically speaking, reducing thresholds for such crowdsourcing
of contextualizations...

I like efforts converging around http://www.netention.org/ - its constantly
brewing new ideas, evolving, ...
Perhaps there are other places / software development approaches with such
spirit in mind ?

Ways to converge / create synergies towards the development of such tools ?

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM, olivier auber wrote:

> Just a word to say that I strongly disagree to say that the concept of
> holoptism may describe what we are seeking and trying to do here (P2P
> foundation).
>
> I think that the concept of "Anopticism" may describe it better.
>
> If it seems quite paradoxical to name the project of making the
> collective intelligence visible : "Anopticism" [from the Greek "a"
> (without) and "optiké" (vision)], it’s certainly because it needs some
> explanations ...
>
> Of course, the anopticon is the opposite of the "panopticon". In a
> certain manner, the concept of "Anopticism" also differs from the
> concept of "holopticism" [from the Greek "holos" (whole)], which
> "consists of a physical or virtual space whose architecture is
> intentionally designed to give its players the ability to see and
> perceive all that occurs there ". If we consider the opposition of the
> Greek roots, we could even believe that there is a radical antagonism
> between Anoptic and holoptic. It's not quite the case: if Anopticism
> and holopticism, "are designed to give to each individual a modeled
> representation of space [...] in which he operates", the Anopticism
> mourns for the idea that the "totality" of this space is the
> "objectivity" of its representation, it insists instead on the
> arbitrary and subjectivity of the points of view that govern the
> models and on the rules that determine them.
>
> For the Anopticism, human relationships are not reducible to the
> establishment of a cybernetic feedback loop between the group and the
> individual: the essential is forever invisible to us. The mourning of
> objectivity is made bearable by the fact that everyone is potentially
> the author of the points of view and the actor of the implemented
> rules and codes. In this way, the Anopticism intends to legitimate a
> "digital perspective" which may be applied within social systems.
>
> more : http://perspective-numerique.net/wakka.php?wiki=Anopticism
>
> --
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>
>
>
> 2013/2/7 Dante-Gabryell Monson :
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM, flawer  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > the visualization of past transactions as a form of reputation ,
> >> > or of currently described contexts and suggestions, can speak for
> >> > itself :)
> >> >
> >> > I guess, very much like on e-bay or couchsurfing
> >>
> >> i tend to dislike these models.. people forced me to comment in cs and
> >> i am browsing too much of a overhappied load, but i admit that it works
> >> for the majority.  i prefer the 'no news are good news', archive bad
> >> reputation only, and then having a little of bad reputation could be a
> >> wished reputation  (it is better some visible reputation than no visible
> >> reputation, maybe :).
> >
> >
> > It was only to make a parallel... with concepts / approaches to
> reputation
> > online.
> >
> > the way I imagine it, there would be no need to comment, or add stars, or
> > whatever...
> >
> > Transactions would happen, and based on the privacy levels people choose,
> > they are publicly available or not...
> >
> > hence people can understand interdependencies and choose to interact
> based
> > on past, present, and future actions or suggestions...
> >
> > The past, present and future are defined in this introduction :
> >
> > http://www.netention.org/intro/
> >
> > (Watch in full-screen)
> >
> >>
> >&

Re: [P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM, flawer  wrote:

>
> > the visualization of past transactions as a form of reputation ,
> > or of currently described contexts and suggestions, can speak for
> > itself :)
> >
> > I guess, very much like on e-bay or couchsurfing
>
> i tend to dislike these models.. people forced me to comment in cs and
> i am browsing too much of a overhappied load, but i admit that it works
> for the majority.  i prefer the 'no news are good news', archive bad
> reputation only, and then having a little of bad reputation could be a
> wished reputation  (it is better some visible reputation than no visible
> reputation, maybe :).
>

It was only to make a parallel... with concepts / approaches to reputation
online.

the way I imagine it, there would be no need to comment, or add stars, or
whatever...

Transactions would happen, and based on the privacy levels people choose,
they are publicly available or not...

hence people can understand interdependencies and choose to interact based
on past, present, and future actions or suggestions...

The past, present and future are defined in this introduction :

http://www.netention.org/intro/

(Watch in 
full-screen)


>
> >   i guess this depends on the
> >  owner of the ontology, the relations he allowed that concept to be
> >  transferable with.[...]
> > yes, ideally ontologies would be free to use...
>
> but not that much free to relate to other ontologies (concept creator
> moderate its semantics, altough it could be crowdsourcedly inputed or
> reviewed too).. or it's pure folksonomy.
>

as I see it, combination of the two... ontologies and folksonomies...
+ people can use the tool to define their own meaning / ontologies

when combined with tags, I imagine that bridges can be made, through
emergence and patterns evolving out of it, between a potential diversity of
ontologies used ?


>
> > one would need to convene to use the same ontologies...
> > though perhaps som
> >
> > meaning giving ?
>
> through the defining, and the adding of (reviewable, crwodsourced)
> hints for developing for the concept (i.e. coward) and +1s for those..
> is how i initially thought this karmic wealth (coward, etc points) to be
> generated. It can be used for relating material resources transactions
>
> >> Or natural language processing... but perhaps that becomes more
> >> complex, and I do no
>
> uhm... let's start by trying to find universalizable meaningful sets of
> things:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic
> human values maybe
>
> or play with just verbs or just nouns for defining other things..
>

or we can start simply with units such as apples and pears ( such as within
a collaborative consumption and/or shareable approach )

and also express the conditions related to such transactions,

and then add / experiment with any other algorithms later ?


>
> or go back to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomatopeia (although it has
> some dialects by longitude and latitude :)
>

:)


>
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Re: [P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:46 PM, flawer  wrote:

> >  I would hope that granular and modulable metadata assembled
> > into contextualized descriptions,
>
> i guess you refer to data explicit ontologies from resources types ()
> and from more abstract or meta things (i.e. human values, courage,
> lazyness, etc. i.e. blue, red, etc)
>

yes :)
describing objects with ontologies, or eventually with tags ( and enable a
combination of a folksonomy and ontologies to describe objects and
relations between them )


>
> implicit data (i.e. logs in at same time on fridays, etc) would be even
> more interesting to network with.
>
> for then stablishing preferences of investments or for simplier
> exchanging material things as a excuse for getting in a better human
> relation with certain peers (the machine recommends me to
> invest/exchange with x related maybe unknown peers)
>

yes, manual queries using the system, or algorithms for the system to
automatically make suggestions


>
> if instead of preferences we say: requirements (to deal *just* with
> "couragous blue" mates), we have a kind of currency..


yes


> (flow network is
> perhaps more accurate :) and brings the overlap issue:
>
>
> > Somehow, I see a variety of [clauses] , amongst other ontologies
> > many seem to be taking for granted , of which perhaps certain could
> > overlap ?
>
> sure. in (i.e. human values), you shouldn't flow/convert couragous
> points into coward points, or you shouldn't use a shareful coward thing
> if you don't have coward points... or you should be able to clear your
> coward points with courageous points? haha.


:)

yes...

note :
or perhaps even before any interpretation into "coward points" ( whatever
the objective algorithm / interpretation of such points would be ) ,
the visualization of past transactions as a form of reputation ,
or of currently described contexts and suggestions, can speak for itself :)

I guess, very much like on e-bay or couchsurfing



> i guess this depends on the
> owner of the ontology, the relations he allowed that concept to be
> transferable with.
>

yes, ideally ontologies would be free to use...
one would need to convene to use the same ontologies...
though perhaps some kind of combination with a folksonomical approach could
bridge some of the stiffness of ontological meaning giving ?

Or natural language processing... but perhaps that becomes more complex,
and I do not know much about it...


>
> i imagine i am trying subscribing to "courage" and "courage2" flows in
> network x, which are incompatible between them.. owned by different
> authors).
>
> i have overseen some more specifications in this direction, but i am...
> aa..
>
>
:)


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Re: [P2P-F] [opencc] Re: emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Hi Patrick,

it is at a meta level.

This means that, at least conceptually for now,
it can be used to describe any kind of contracts,
understand and visualize interdependencies between such contracts,
and understand the effects of such contracts.

The currency model you propose,
or other currency architectures, could be described and compared,
and even potentially be used co-jointly within potential shared economic
networks
that emerge out of such contracts.

As in programming software applications,
there are sometimes different layers.

What I try to describe is a tool that facilitates the definition and
expression of currency architectures, but also contextualizations in a
broader sense ( in the form of data and meta data, that can use linked data
protocols , such as red and xml schema, or possibly also the xml format
metacurrency seems to develop ).

Seth developed Netention ( Revlin created his own fork ), which aims at
being able to use such ontologies to make descriptions.

It is like enabling the description of metalanguages, based on some kind of
semantic web browser / editor...

And using this kind of real time browser / editor for economic transactions
and engagement networks too...

For example, you could use a netention like tool, to describe "future
objects" ( that is, creating an object with time metadata set in the future
), and you could also add a "suggestion" metadata ( non confirmed ? ),
until other people act upon it, and you can create mutual engagements
around it, as to converge resources to enable such potential, for example
by matching needs with available resources...




On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Patrick Anderson  wrote:

> Dante-Gabryell Monson wrote:
> > I realize what I describe corresponds, or rather, is very similar in
> spirit,
> > to the concept of the metacurrency project :
> >
> > http://www.metacurrency.org
> > http://p2pfoundation.net/Metacurrency_Project
>
>
> Hey Dante,
>
> I wonder if I am being to myopic ...could you help me understand your
> (and the metacurrency) approach?
>
> Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but I don't understand what 'backs'
> these currencies, and also do not understand when or by whom they are
> issued.
>
>
> In the system I propose, the currency is backed by the Sources and
> Skills needed to produce *future* Objects.
>
> These tickets have a window of validity (they are not valid until some
> future time, and then expire after some further time based on the
> physical constraints of both production and storage).
>
> These tickets are 'issued' by groups of co-owners of the Physical
> Source (Material Means of Production) to individuals within that group
> as a way of accounting for whether (for example) each has picked-up
> their dozen eggs for the week.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patrick
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Re: [P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

yet another additional note :)   ( cc: Arthur Brock, Eric Harris Braun )
...

I realize what I describe corresponds, or rather, is very similar in spirit,
to the concept of the metacurrency project :

http://www.metacurrency.org/
http://p2pfoundation.net/Metacurrency_Project

In addition to transactions, I look forward to combine it with any form of
contextual data... ( perhaps its part of their vision too ? not sure ... )

Metacurrency is in development.

I understand Arthur Brock and Eric Harris Braun , within this vision,
include a xml based protocol, called xpfl

http://wiki.flowplace.org/wagn/XML
http://wiki.flowplace.org/wagn/XPFL+Ontology

In netention ( prototype : er.netention.org , code :
https://github.com/automenta/netentionjs2 , intro :
http://netention.org/intro/  ) ,

there is ultimately the aim at importing ontologies ( including xml and rdf
schema ).

I would love to see the potential to experiment with the approaches
developed by metacurrency, and import XPFL in the netention tool as to
enable descriptions using XPFL.

But then, ... best is to double check if I understood all of these
technical approaches properly :)   - perhaps such technical discussions,
for those interested, could be done via
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/global-survival  ?



On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> note : as to understand the element that enables the network effect, I may
> perhaps focus on the understanding that such metadata can be used, pretty
> much like a tag, and hence any corresponding metadata , or even data
> patterns, could overlap across several "games", or in effect, "create" a
> variety of games... or opportunities for games, as people find out about
> such opportunities, and can decide to act upon them.
>
> It opens up new markets, in a p2p approach, along a variety of forms of
> capital.
>
> This is one of the applications I see as possible with netention, once the
> prototype will become more mature...
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Apostolis, Thanks.
>>
>> yes, I thought of the network effect.
>>
>> Hence the granularity, which enables modularity, at a single agents point
>> of perspective.
>>
>> One agent / user / player,
>> can play several overlapping "games" ( including economic ones ),
>>
>> and direct its choices based on understanding of how other people's
>> engagements match, and on the contextualisation of resources or potential
>> resources.
>>
>> This is possible through the use of a variety of metadata, including a
>> combination of engagement metadata with resource related metadata ( apples,
>> pears, ... ) , and which can include debt based metadata ( what we
>> currently call money ), but certainly does not restrict the economic
>> networks to such layers of transactions, broadening transactions to a much
>> larger potential of transactions based on information of available capital.
>>
>> Hence, as briefly mentioned in the last message, the self contextualizing
>> information systems open up an understanding of potential choices within
>> economic networks, hence creating a defacto series of context based
>> (meta)licenses ( themselves based on conditions defined within these
>> granular elements )
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <
>> xekou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dante, have you thought of the network 
>>> effect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> The usefulness of a system depends on the number of people using it. So,
>>> even if people are able to create their own game, they will still have to
>>> play by the rules that someone else created.
>>>
>>> It was never a requirement to have electronic tools so that another form
>>> of society would exist if everyone accepted the new society's rules.
>>>
>>> We need to propose a specific game.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/2/5 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>>>
>>>> Hi Flawer, Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I totally get you flawer.
>>>> Somehow, I see a variety of contracts, with shareable being one type of
>>>> license / contract that could be used , amongst other ontologies many seem
>>>> to be taking for granted , of which perhaps certain could overlap ?
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, and I do not mean this for this list in particular,
>>>> but generally speaking,
>>>>
>>>> I have the feeling that i

Re: [P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Hi Apostolis, Thanks.

yes, I thought of the network effect.

Hence the granularity, which enables modularity, at a single agents point
of perspective.

One agent / user / player,
can play several overlapping "games" ( including economic ones ),

and direct its choices based on understanding of how other people's
engagements match, and on the contextualisation of resources or potential
resources.

This is possible through the use of a variety of metadata, including a
combination of engagement metadata with resource related metadata ( apples,
pears, ... ) , and which can include debt based metadata ( what we
currently call money ), but certainly does not restrict the economic
networks to such layers of transactions, broadening transactions to a much
larger potential of transactions based on information of available capital.

Hence, as briefly mentioned in the last message, the self contextualizing
information systems open up an understanding of potential choices within
economic networks, hence creating a defacto series of context based
(meta)licenses ( themselves based on conditions defined within these
granular elements )


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <
xekou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dante, have you thought of the network 
> effect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect>
> ?
>
> The usefulness of a system depends on the number of people using it. So,
> even if people are able to create their own game, they will still have to
> play by the rules that someone else created.
>
> It was never a requirement to have electronic tools so that another form
> of society would exist if everyone accepted the new society's rules.
>
> We need to propose a specific game.
>
>
> 2013/2/5 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>
>> Hi Flawer, Hi All,
>>
>> I totally get you flawer.
>> Somehow, I see a variety of contracts, with shareable being one type of
>> license / contract that could be used , amongst other ontologies many seem
>> to be taking for granted , of which perhaps certain could overlap ?
>>
>> Sometimes, and I do not mean this for this list in particular,
>> but generally speaking,
>>
>> I have the feeling that its not easy to communicate such views,
>> except for examples related to collaborative consumption.
>>
>> Most people seem to understand the idea of a library of objects.
>> Or the idea of renting some object or place from / to someone.
>>
>> Moving one step further, into the realm of currency, and metadata , is
>> often a stage which seems to be more difficult to bridge.
>>
>> My impression is that very often people understand currency as an object,
>> as in the case of a book in a library.   And not in terms of data and
>> metadata, created out of specific contracts.
>>
>> I liked Etienne's approach of explaining it as a "game"...
>> *A game other people need to agree to play with, for the currency to
>> have any value.*
>>
>> Hence, I would hope that granular and modulable metadata assembled into
>> contextualized descriptions,
>> enables* all games to be taken into account, and provide a framework for
>> "game 2 game" transactions. *
>>
>> Actually, before even the stage of facilitating transactions, such "meta
>> game" enables its users to provide each other with context to support
>> choice making, become aware of the current, or potential effects of
>> interdependencies , opening up a *"meta-game of emergent contextualized
>> collective intelligence".*
>>
>> I realize that once I start talking about an emergent system , it seems
>> to become difficult ( too abstract ? ) for many to grasp ?
>>
>> Perhaps at it becomes a 4th order cybernetic order ?
>> http://attainable-utopias.org/tiki/FourthOrderCybernetics
>>
>> I may need to find different ways of explaining it.
>>
>> Perhaps conversations on this list can help...
>>
>> How can one best explain that any transaction can potentially choose its
>> license / conditions , and that such license can not only itself become
>> currency when accepted by others,
>> but that the combined descriptions of conditions by all users,  the
>> contextualized metadata , becomes a type of (meta)currency, as the context
>> and its interdependencies creates a defacto a license to choose from.
>>
>> In other words, becoming aware of potential economic networks creates a
>> license to choose from, and to contribute from.
>>
>> In effect, the context created through emergence, becoming an open
>> capital license...
>>
>> Related concept : http://p2pfoundation.ne

Re: [P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

note : as to understand the element that enables the network effect, I may
perhaps focus on the understanding that such metadata can be used, pretty
much like a tag, and hence any corresponding metadata , or even data
patterns, could overlap across several "games", or in effect, "create" a
variety of games... or opportunities for games, as people find out about
such opportunities, and can decide to act upon them.

It opens up new markets, in a p2p approach, along a variety of forms of
capital.

This is one of the applications I see as possible with netention, once the
prototype will become more mature...


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Apostolis, Thanks.
>
> yes, I thought of the network effect.
>
> Hence the granularity, which enables modularity, at a single agents point
> of perspective.
>
> One agent / user / player,
> can play several overlapping "games" ( including economic ones ),
>
> and direct its choices based on understanding of how other people's
> engagements match, and on the contextualisation of resources or potential
> resources.
>
> This is possible through the use of a variety of metadata, including a
> combination of engagement metadata with resource related metadata ( apples,
> pears, ... ) , and which can include debt based metadata ( what we
> currently call money ), but certainly does not restrict the economic
> networks to such layers of transactions, broadening transactions to a much
> larger potential of transactions based on information of available capital.
>
> Hence, as briefly mentioned in the last message, the self contextualizing
> information systems open up an understanding of potential choices within
> economic networks, hence creating a defacto series of context based
> (meta)licenses ( themselves based on conditions defined within these
> granular elements )
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <
> xekou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dante, have you thought of the network 
>> effect<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect>
>> ?
>>
>> The usefulness of a system depends on the number of people using it. So,
>> even if people are able to create their own game, they will still have to
>> play by the rules that someone else created.
>>
>> It was never a requirement to have electronic tools so that another form
>> of society would exist if everyone accepted the new society's rules.
>>
>> We need to propose a specific game.
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/5 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>>
>>> Hi Flawer, Hi All,
>>>
>>> I totally get you flawer.
>>> Somehow, I see a variety of contracts, with shareable being one type of
>>> license / contract that could be used , amongst other ontologies many seem
>>> to be taking for granted , of which perhaps certain could overlap ?
>>>
>>> Sometimes, and I do not mean this for this list in particular,
>>> but generally speaking,
>>>
>>> I have the feeling that its not easy to communicate such views,
>>> except for examples related to collaborative consumption.
>>>
>>> Most people seem to understand the idea of a library of objects.
>>> Or the idea of renting some object or place from / to someone.
>>>
>>> Moving one step further, into the realm of currency, and metadata , is
>>> often a stage which seems to be more difficult to bridge.
>>>
>>> My impression is that very often people understand currency as an
>>> object, as in the case of a book in a library.   And not in terms of data
>>> and metadata, created out of specific contracts.
>>>
>>> I liked Etienne's approach of explaining it as a "game"...
>>> *A game other people need to agree to play with, for the currency to
>>> have any value.*
>>>
>>> Hence, I would hope that granular and modulable metadata assembled into
>>> contextualized descriptions,
>>> enables* all games to be taken into account, and provide a framework
>>> for "game 2 game" transactions. *
>>>
>>> Actually, before even the stage of facilitating transactions, such "meta
>>> game" enables its users to provide each other with context to support
>>> choice making, become aware of the current, or potential effects of
>>> interdependencies , opening up a *"meta-game of emergent contextualized
>>> collective intelligence".*
>>>
>>> I realize that once I start talking about an emergent system , it seems
>>> to

[P2P-F] emergent holoptism as OCL Re: open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Hi Flawer, Hi All,

I totally get you flawer.
Somehow, I see a variety of contracts, with shareable being one type of
license / contract that could be used , amongst other ontologies many seem
to be taking for granted , of which perhaps certain could overlap ?

Sometimes, and I do not mean this for this list in particular,
but generally speaking,

I have the feeling that its not easy to communicate such views,
except for examples related to collaborative consumption.

Most people seem to understand the idea of a library of objects.
Or the idea of renting some object or place from / to someone.

Moving one step further, into the realm of currency, and metadata , is
often a stage which seems to be more difficult to bridge.

My impression is that very often people understand currency as an object,
as in the case of a book in a library.   And not in terms of data and
metadata, created out of specific contracts.

I liked Etienne's approach of explaining it as a "game"...
*A game other people need to agree to play with, for the currency to have
any value.*

Hence, I would hope that granular and modulable metadata assembled into
contextualized descriptions,
enables* all games to be taken into account, and provide a framework for
"game 2 game" transactions. *

Actually, before even the stage of facilitating transactions, such "meta
game" enables its users to provide each other with context to support
choice making, become aware of the current, or potential effects of
interdependencies , opening up a *"meta-game of emergent contextualized
collective intelligence".*

I realize that once I start talking about an emergent system , it seems to
become difficult ( too abstract ? ) for many to grasp ?

Perhaps at it becomes a 4th order cybernetic order ?
http://attainable-utopias.org/tiki/FourthOrderCybernetics

I may need to find different ways of explaining it.

Perhaps conversations on this list can help...

How can one best explain that any transaction can potentially choose its
license / conditions , and that such license can not only itself become
currency when accepted by others,
but that the combined descriptions of conditions by all users,  the
contextualized metadata , becomes a type of (meta)currency, as the context
and its interdependencies creates a defacto a license to choose from.

In other words, becoming aware of potential economic networks creates a
license to choose from, and to contribute from.

In effect, the context created through emergence, becoming an open capital
license...

Related concept : http://p2pfoundation.net/Holoptism



On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM, flawer  wrote:

>
> > a) it decides whether the tools for the project are created and by
> > whom they are used.
> > b) they decide the price of those tools( through lending).
> >
> > After this analysis, we see that a bank does decide what the economy
> > produces. In general, the owner of money controls the economy because
> > of those 2 reasons.
> >
> > Any ruleset thus has to find a way to remove those abilities from
> > money.
>
> if you attach a contract that promises the universalization of access
> you are giving more responsability and less rights to ownership (what
> money could buy), you won't be able to ask for money for the produced
> thing, and should let others use it, etc, so investing in my property is
> increasing my responsability, so i'd like to share that charge (peer
> property) and i'd like not being owner of too many things (i prefer to
> be plain user). the "a)" reason you mention is mentioned to be universal
> use by default.
>
> i believe a job agency of workers investing their sales/budgets for the
> commons can be bought by a rich in $ (and it's an internal matter of us
> whether we know how to spend well the $ and if we still need to 'accept'
> them), and this not being a power over from the rich in $ towards us. It
> is rather a way we should experiment more, we shouldn't have much
> competition in the actual 'market' if we corporate so.
>
>
> also the clausing of community currencies with the shareful producing
> condition, whether they choose the shareful project to be just accesible
> for their associates or for the whole world, should help defining their
> values and even justify the giving of 'basic incomes' for shareful
> producers works in this way (who could buy preferent use/access for
> those produced shareful things) (who could require to retain the
> ownership of the shareful production or give it to the corp)
>
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Re: [P2P-F] open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

s money. Someone want to start a business, shareful or
> not, the bank gives money and in exchange it wants more money in the future.
> So although the bank doesnt interfere in the business structure, it is
> able to extract wealth because it can do these things:
>
> a) it decides whether the tools for the project are created and by whom
> they are used.
> b) they decide the price of those tools( through lending).
>
> After this analysis, we see that a bank does decide what the economy
> produces. In general, the owner of money controls the economy because of
> those 2 reasons.
>
> Any ruleset thus has to find a way to remove those abilities from money.
>
> @Dante
>
> Maybe you should look at something like this:
> http://valnet.webfactional.com/accounting/network/24/ .
> Semantic graphs are very difficult to work with. No doubt, they are at a
> stand still for so many years.
>
> @Michel . I have read few of them.I dont have much time unfortunately.
> Almost all try to create new value flows and thus break the chains of
> people from the the central monetary system.
> So this is what I call a BSD license style effort.
> In other words, if someone finds it more profitable, he switches back to
> the old system.
>
> @all
> I am working on a ruleset myself, but my main point here is that as new
> value flows emerge,we are of dire need of a ruleset as a guide for future
> efforts.
> In contrast, the creation of peer property through peer production has
> been analyzed thoroughly.
> We need a good definition of the creation of private property through peer
> production, ie through non-exclusion.
>
> Value networks, specifically need such a definition.
>
>
> 2013/2/4 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>
>> I wish to briefly add a point of view in response to Apostolis question :
>>
>> Beyond more distributed forms of tokenization - token creation, token
>> exchange,... - , beyond the use of debt itself as a token,
>>
>> I personally look forward to using the lowering of contextualization
>> thresholds to facilitate the creation of new markets / information systems
>> , new thresholds for granular and modular combinations of engagement,
>> which can be intentionally based, and in which reputation can potentially
>> play a role as non-tradable ( social ) capital, whilst enabling other
>> properties I identify as p2p, such as 
>> equipotentialit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Equipotentiality>
>> y.
>>
>> An attempt as such social contract and resource allocation information
>> system described , for example, via this netention 
>> presentation<https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByfmjEDwh_feV1hsX1o1OVFXTlE/preview>(
>>  made by Seth )
>>
>> and a early prototype
>>
>> http://er.netention.org/
>>
>> note : it does not yet have the functionalities described above, but its
>> architecture enables it through its further development, by importing for
>> example various ontologies - rdf schema, etc - ... )
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Michel Bauwens > > wrote:
>>
>>> hi Apostolis,
>>>
>>> probably not related but chris cook uses the concept of
>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Capital (more via
>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:OpenCapital)
>>>
>>> my material on money is here http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Moneyand the 
>>> material on licenses is here
>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Licensing
>>>
>>> a list of open currency related concepts:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- Open Bank Project <http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Bank_Project>
>>>- Open Book Management<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Book_Management>
>>>- Open Capital <http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Capital>
>>>- Open Currency <http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Currency>
>>>- Open Data Currencies<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Data_Currencies>
>>>- Open Fair Credit 
>>> Standard<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Fair_Credit_Standard>
>>>- Open Hardware 
>>> Microcredit<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Hardware_Microcredit>
>>>- Open Identity 
>>> Currencies<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Identity_Currencies>
>>>- Open Money <http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money>
>>>- Open Money as a 
>>> Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_as_a_Commons>
>>>- Open Money 
>>> Bibliography<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_Bibliography>
>>>- Open Money Blogtalk 
>>> Radio<http://p2pfounda

Re: [P2P-F] open capital License?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

I wish to briefly add a point of view in response to Apostolis question :

Beyond more distributed forms of tokenization - token creation, token
exchange,... - , beyond the use of debt itself as a token,

I personally look forward to using the lowering of contextualization
thresholds to facilitate the creation of new markets / information systems
, new thresholds for granular and modular combinations of engagement,
which can be intentionally based, and in which reputation can potentially
play a role as non-tradable ( social ) capital, whilst enabling other
properties I identify as p2p, such as
equipotentialit
y.

An attempt as such social contract and resource allocation information
system described , for example, via this netention
presentation(
made by Seth )

and a early prototype

http://er.netention.org/

note : it does not yet have the functionalities described above, but its
architecture enables it through its further development, by importing for
example various ontologies - rdf schema, etc - ... )

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:

> hi Apostolis,
>
> probably not related but chris cook uses the concept of
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Capital (more via
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:OpenCapital)
>
> my material on money is here http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Money and
> the material on licenses is here
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Licensing
>
> a list of open currency related concepts:
>
>
>
>- Open Bank Project 
>- Open Book Management 
>- Open Capital 
>- Open Currency 
>- Open Data Currencies 
>- Open Fair Credit 
> Standard
>- Open Hardware 
> Microcredit
>- Open Identity 
> Currencies
>- Open Money 
>- Open Money as a Commons
>- Open Money Bibliography
>- Open Money Blogtalk 
> Radio
>- Open Money Manifesto 
>- Open Money Project 
>- Open Patent Alliance 
>- Open Rules Currencies
>- Open Source Bounties 
>- Open Source Core 
> Banking
>- Open Source Credit Rating 
> Agency
>- Open Source Currency 
>- Open Source Finance Meetup 
> Group
>- Open Source Financial Transactions 
> Processing
>- Open Source Hardware 
> Bank
>- Open Source Hardware Reserve 
> Bank
>- Open Source I-Bills 
>- Open Source Ratings Are Needed To Break the Ratings Agency 
> Oligopoly
>- Open Source Voucher Payment 
> Project
>- Open Transact 
>- Open Transactions 
>- Open Transport 
> Currencies
>- Open UDC 
>- Open Wallet 
>- Open Xchange 
>- Open-Universal Digital Currency 
> Project
>- OpenCoin 
>- Opensocial Virtual Currency API 
> Proposal
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:32:08 +0200
> From: Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis 
> Subject: [P2P-F] open capital License?
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> If we define the open paradigm as the one's right to access information or
> resources, then wha

[P2P-F] Maps of the colonization of p2p ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

Thank you for this interesting thread ! :)
( on the economy of monasticism )

Could some of us see ourselves in some ways as monastics of a digital /
"post print" age ( albeit distributed / spread out ? )

and, if so, still in a stage of formation ?  with a convergence of
interdependent viable self sustaining production infrastructures still to
develop ?

Does the approach ( memes ? ) some of us use on this list differ from the
communes cited and compared with the monastic communities in that book ?

How do monastic or intentional community modes of production , governance
and property relate or differ to p2p approaches ?  Are such monastic orders
"blue" ( authoritarian ), and are intentional communities they are compared
to ( from the 60 ies, and after ? ) "green" memes
?
(
egalitarian ? )


If this emerges as yellow, turquoise and beyond, what would it look like ?

How have ( if they have ) old monasteries adapted to changes in memes ?

What is the level of interconnected critical diversity required to enable
viable self sustaining p2p production / governance / property systems ?

What would the relation of a p2p viable system be to space / distance ?

Is there anywhere on earth where a diversity of systems, such as documented
on p2pfoundation , appropedia, etc  already converge as to mutually self
sustain ?

What would its cost be, in terms of infrastructure development ? ( if/when
acquiring production infrastructure on the capitalist monetized markets )
And what transition dependencies does it have in relation to current (
industrial era ? ) infrastructures ?

Based on physical distance factors , what have been past conditions of a
certain form of emergence, and how would it compare with today ?

What would the maps look like, if some aspects of p2p meme development
would be considered as colonizing monastics ?
Monastics of a certain meme ? Where are such memes most represented and
interconnected ?

Is there a need for a critical mass combined with a critical diversity
within a specific geographical area and along certain levels of
interconnectedness within such potential systems ?

What would its current main development centres be ? Berlin and San
Francisco ?  or simply... the internet... and any place with high internet
connectivity and creative / information based economies ?

And if so, what do we potentially see emerging from a combination of
internet and spatial face to face dynamics ?   Did our interactions on the
internet lead to any of us converging and living together ? ( open source
ecology project maybe ? )



On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kevin F  wrote:

> Hi Anna,
>
> Monastics also provided services to the communities of which they are
> a part. In the past the monasteries were great repositories of
> knowledge. They were not limited to scriptural works alone. In the pre
> print era scribes also produced copies of philosophical, technical and
> historical works. They provided opportunities for people to educate
> themselves and in turn those same people became stewards of that
> knowledge which was of general benefit to communities that grew up
> around the monasteries.
> Now as you say it is true that as celibate institutions they fail to
> reproduce themselves. However it can also be said that the knowledge
> of which the monasteries were caretakers contributed to the
> sustainability and in turn the re-productivity of the lay communities
> and that seeing monasteries as socially valuable in this way was one
> reason people from those communities chose to join.
> Of course this is not the only motivation to join. For some it was to
> pursue the spiritual life, for others it was to escape poverty, while
> others joined because of social or family pressure.
> One of the big rules was that monks and nuns should not own property.
> If monks or nuns were to have families things become more complicated
> as humans tend to look out for the welfare of their own before that of
> the community as a whole. One of the arguments for celibacy in the
> church is that it acts as an anti corruption measure. When Priests,
> Abbots and Nuns have families it is easy for mini dynasties to emerge
> as quite quickly it is the son of the Abbot who inherits his fathers
> prestigious and influential role. This situation is avoided when they
> are required to be celibate.
> The other advantage of a celibate community is that its members have
> more time to focus on intellectual work. When this is applied to
> technical problems, inventive and innovative solutions can be shared,
> improving the health and sustainability of the broader lay community.
> All of these dynamics change as societies become better off. Today we
> no longer depend on monasteries to preserve and reproduce important
> texts. Nor do we depend on them for education or health. None of this
> was true 500 years ago. As the quality of life improves for people
> 

[P2P-F] Fwd: Connected Citizens game live

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

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[P2P-F] January 22nd and 23rd : Institute for the Future : Connected Citizens

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( found via Mark J. and Bet Ola via fb )

Connected Citizens: Re-imagine How Government Works
Pre-register today: gameplay begins on January 22 at 12pm PST! ( 20.00 GMT )
*http://www.connected-citizens.org/* 
What if we could re-program government together?

What bugs would you fix? What would be the killer app? How would you
combine citizen and government data to improve services and quality of life
in your community?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv8Xn7PUcI4

Connected Citizens
*On January 22nd and 23rd, join us for a global conversation about how new
civic technologies could transform the relationship between citizens and
governments, and how government services will be designed and delivered in
the future.*
*
Play the game, share your ideas, and help create the future of government.*

http://www.iftf.org/home/

*January 22 *at* 12:00pm PST / 20:00 GMT*.



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Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Software developer outsources own job and whiles away shifts on cat videos

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

:)

related dilbert / comic :

*http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2003-08-03/*

found via further conversations on the topic
*http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/01/16/0354218/employee-outsourced
-programming-job-to-china-spent-days-websurfing *

itself found via Mamading :)

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: nettime's employee of the the year 
> Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:51 PM
> Subject:  Software developer outsources own job and whiles away
> shifts on cat videos
> To: nettim...@kein.org
>
>
>
>
> Software developer Bob outsources own job and whiles away shifts on cat
> videos
>
> Verizon's hunt for firm's mysterious hacker exposes 'top worker' at firm
> who let Chinese consultants log on to do his daily work
>
> guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 16 January 2013 18.12 GMT
>
> When a routine security check by a US-based company showed someone was
> repeatedly logging on to their computer system from China, it naturally
> sent alarm bells ringing. Hackers were suspected and telecoms experts were
> called in.
>
> It was only after a thorough investigation that it was revealed that the
> culprit was not a hacker, but "Bob" (not his real name), an "inoffensive
> and quiet" family man and the company's top-performing programmer, who
> could be seen toiling at his desk day after day and staring diligently at
> his monitor.
>
> For Bob had come up with the idea of outsourcing his own job – to China.
> So, while a Chinese consulting firm got on with the job he was paid to do,
> on less than one-fifth of his salary, he whiled away his working day
> surfing Reddit, eBay and Facebook.
>
> The extraordinary story has been revealed by Andrew Valentine, senior
> investigator at US telecoms firm Verizon Business, on its website,
> securityblog.verizonbusiness.**com
> .
>
> Verizon's risk team was called by the unnamed critical infrastructure
> company last year, "asking for our help in understanding some anomalous
> activity that they were witnessing in their VPN logs", wrote Valentine.
>
> The company had begun to allow its software developers to occasionally
> work from home and so had set up "a fairly standard VPN [virtual private
> network] concentrator" to facilitate remote access.
>
> When its IT security department started actively monitoring logs being
> generated at the VPN, "What they found startled and surprised them: an open
> and active VPN connection from Shenyang, China! As in this connection was
> live when they discovered it," wrote Valentine.
>
> What was more, the developer whose credentials were being used was sitting
> at his desk in the office.
>
> "Plainly stated, the VPN logs showed him logged in from China, yet the
> employee is right there, sitting at his desk, staring into his monitor."
>
> Verizon's investigators discovered "almost daily connections from
> Shenyang, and occasionally these connections spanned the entire workday".
>
> The employee, whom Valentine calls Bob, was in his mid-40s, a "family man,
> inoffensive and quiet. Someone you wouldn't look twice at in an elevator."
>
> But an examination of his workstation revealed hundreds of pdf invoices
> from a third party contractor/developer in Shenyang.
>
> "As it turns out, Bob had simply outsourced his own job to a Chinese
> consulting firm. Bob spent less than one-fifth of his six-figure salary for
> a Chinese firm to do his job for him."
>
> He had physically FedExed his security RSA "token", needed to access the
> VPN, to China so his surrogates could log in as him.
>
> When the company checked his web-browsing history, a typical "work day"
> for Bob was: 9am, arrive and surf Reddit for a couple of hours, watch cat
> videos; 11.30am, take lunch; 1pm, eBay; 2pm-ish, Facebook updates,
> LinkedIn; 4.40pm–end of day, update email to management; 5pm, go home.
>
> The evidence, said Valentine, even suggested he had the same scam going
> across multiple companies in the area.
>
> "All told, it looked like he earned several hundred thousand dollars a
> year, and only had to pay the Chinese consulting firm about fifty grand
> annually".
>
> Meanwhile, his performance review showed that, for several years in a row,
> Bob had received excellent remarks for his codes which were "clean, well
> written and submitted in a timely fashion".
>
> "Quarter after quarter, his performance review noted him as the best
> developer in the building," wrote Valentine.
>
> Bob no longer works for the company.
>
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[P2P-F] COOK Report : Understanding the Global Digital Economy ( 2013 )

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=272:jan-feb-2013&catid=38:current-issues&Itemid=73
 ( Thanks Jeffrey, Eimhin, and offcourse Gordon )

COOK Report for January - February 2013



Next 
>Understanding
the Global Digital Economy

If you have not been led by the mainstream media into a false sense of
security, and if you give any time at all to thinking about whether any
politicians in the East or the West are expressing any positive leadership
on behalf of their citizens in charting a sustainable future  -- one that
does not involve a return to something bordering on medieval feudalism or a
right wing led, fascist-oriented corporate state dominated by its military
leaders; you probably are looking at the ideas and visions of a small
handful of Internet-based visionaries who are focusing on organizing
alternative societies.

In saying this we are speaking very broadly about a handful of thought
leaders who are making it their calling to scan the horizon and think
across the entire entire global range of technology: science,
communication, medicine, agriculture, and urban rural living patterns.
Readers will know many of these folk ranging from Doc Searls, Clay Shirky,
David Weinberger, JP Ramaswami, to George and Esther Dyson, to Vint Cerf
and the leaders at Google, and to Kevin Kelly and Chris Anderson of Wired.

But there are an even smaller handful of people who focus globally on
curating the leading thinkers in every discipline are with their curation
are describing positive potential outcomes from the best of these people's
work. Stewart Brand began the process decades ago with his Global Business
Network and Whole Earth Catalog.  Brand’s work nurtured Tim O'Reilly and
the rise of the O’Reilly publishing company and his own curatorship of
conferences that brought the leading visionaries in new technologies and
new disciplines together to explore whether a common vision of an
achievable future could be articulated.

Six or seven years ago Michel Bauwens began the Peer-to-Peer Foundation
which is a coordinated group of people from several dozen of countries
around the globe that has created and is sustaining an encyclopedic wiki of
peer-to-peer technologies -- technologies on which, according to John Robb,
resilient communities can be based.  Two years ago I reported across two
different issues on what Michel Bauwens and his Peer-to-Peer Foundation
allies were doing and how their wiki was built and structured.

Six years ago I took my first look at Jerry Michalski who worked for Esther
Dyson in the late 80s and early 90s writing and editing Release 1.0.  For
this issue I have returned to Jerry to dive into a much deeper discussion
of how his view of the world has changed since 2006 when we first talked in
some depth.  His thinking turns out to be very close to my own and that of
Michel Bauwens.  His approach is to found and develop a group of leaders in
their respective fields that can range from government organizations, to
corporations, to financial organizations and foundations and so on to
spread the ideas that are necessary to overturn the 20th century way of
thinking that had led to financialization of the global economy and to a
race to the bottom with globalization and unlimited deregulated speculation
and corporate control of nationstate systems that that, in the nearly 20
years since the fall of the Soviet bloc, has been making the world a more
dangerous and less sustainable place.

Having examined the way that Michel Bauwens puts the peer-to-peer wiki to
work and keeps  it functioning as the platform for his people, in this
issue I have asked Jerry to detail the workings of his “Brain” which is a
very different kind of software from the wiki but has been used by Jerry
for similar purposes to organize his own thoughts over the past 15 years. I
then go on to 3 detailed interviews with Jerry that lasted a total of
nearly 6 hours. During these discussions he shared with me how his thinking
evolved into a much more interesting and sophisticated version of what some
years earlier in the aftermath of the ClueTrain Manifesto he had referred
to as the Relationship Economy.

Jerry has seriously expanded his definition of what the convergence of
Internet technologies and globalism means to sustainable democratic
societies and he has developed a series of ideas based on what he calls
“contrarian thinkers” who became revolutionaries in their perspectives
fields of endeavor by effectively saying that everyone in that field must
be trusted and that their field must not build command-and-control
hierarchies over the people that  they sought to lead and that the Yang of
scientific hierarchical top-down we know what's best for the masses kind of
leadership needed to be balanced with the much more soft, feminine, open
and trusting Yin in the way that people dealt wi

[P2P-F] Fwd: Contributing to ? : Tribler - P2P Bartercast reputation system + Bandwidth-as-a-currency ( presentation at Stanford )

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

FYI ...

-- Forwarded message --
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson 
Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Subject: Re:  Contributing to ? : Tribler - P2P Bartercast
reputation system + Bandwidth-as-a-currency ( presentation at Stanford )
To: coalit...@googlegroups.com, global-survi...@googlegroups.com,
econow...@googlegroups.com, ope...@googlegroups.com


Thanks Dan-Eric for the feedback.

They are also apparently hiring people for academic research

tribler.org/jobs

I also suggest this pdf related to the video presentation :

"*Cyber collectivism:*
*Transforming Media and Money"*

*
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v36.pdf
*

I see potential parallels and synergies with the catalyst map development (
cc : Tim Rayner )

http://www.rhok.org/problems/catalyst-map

especially when combined with another project, Netention :

presentation :
http://automenta.com/netention ( also see open source code , and
combination with its GSS mapping )

as to ultimately have a distributed system at every layer ** of such a
system for emergent collective intelligence.


*** Further Notes :*
*
*
*including ultimately, at its base / physical infrastructure, the potential
for additional solutions, such as a currently existing mobile wireless mesh
application using android powered smartphones ? *
*
*
*https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject&hl=en*<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject&hl=en>
*
*
*( and more on this
forum<http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/could-peernet-be-separate-from?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A46320>
regarding
links to its open source development )*
*
*
*But also at other layers : semantic web protocols, IEML as meaning
creating grammars , enabling emergent forms of graphs through a combination
of human computation and AI, enabling access to distributed databases
providing large contexts from which queries can be operated, while using
distributed communication protocol layers such as the 4th generation
Torrent approach of the Tribler client, the QMedia microblogging solution,
and other pieces of such larger puzzle...*
*
*
*facilitating the emergence of alternative resource allocation systems on
top of such infrastructures and protocols,*
*which can use the metadata generated as currency for emergent forms of
self-governance and 4th order cybernetics ?*

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Dan-Eric Archer
wrote:

> Thanks for the share, interesting stuff.
>
> He's mentioning our bank, JAK, at around 8 min!
>
> //D-E
>
>
>
> 2012/9/16 Dante-Gabryell Monson 
>
>> *I recommend watching this presentation given by Johan Pauwelse* ( Delf
>> University of Technology - http://pds.twi.tudelft.nl/~pouwelse/ ;
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/peer2peer )
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQiLaKdzD0E&feature=g-all-esi
>>  *
>> *
>> *- Hi Johan ! I hope we can connect our networks and find paths for
>> collaboration. This email is sent to a broad audience of people I have been
>> in touch with, in cc and in bcc, who are active** in a combination of
>> environments including ngo's , academic research, open source software
>> projects, ... with **often trans-disciplinary approaches, including
>> Artificial Intelligence, study of P2P distributed approaches, Complementary
>> Currencies and Alternative Resource Allocation Information Systems, ...*
>> *I am using the introduction to your work to get us inter-connected.
>> Feel free to redirect to any more appropriate conversation space (
>> mailinglist ? I tried *http://forum.tribler.org*/*<http://forum.tribler.org/>
>> * , yet even using TOR I do not manage to access the forum. )*
>>
>> *The video presentation given in May 2012 converges and implements ideas
>> some of us discussed or are working on,*
>> *and believe it can open up further collaboration amongst us based on
>> our current work.*
>>
>> //
>>
>> I am very glad to realize there is ( advanced ? ) research on the topic (
>> with EU funding ), and potential for collaboration ?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribler
>>
>> http://dl.tribler.org/
>>
>> http://tribler.org
>>
>> I see a lot of potential synergies and potential combinations of
>> technologies and protocols,
>> at various levels.
>>
>> Including in the way meaning is built and shared in distributed databases
>> ,
>> including a potential to use Semantic Web Vocabularies, IEML grammar and
>> algebra - http://www.ieml.org/spip.php?rubrique51&lang=en - ,
>> ... to define broader contexts and facilitate choice regarding
>> transactions, the

[P2P-F] PDF - Academic Paper : Network of Global Corporate Control

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

found via various sources , sharing almost simultaneously :

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.5728v2.pdf
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[P2P-F] Fwd: Researching BWPWAP: The Reinvention of Research as Participatory Practice

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

perhaps this may interest some of us ?


-- Forwarded message --
From: Tatiana Bazzichelli 
Date: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Subject:  Researching BWPWAP: The Reinvention of Research as
Participatory Practice
To: nettim...@kein.org



Researching BWPWAP: The Reinvention of Research as Participatory Practice

Call for Participation for International Research Conference and PhD
Workshop to be held at Leuphana University of Lüneburg, Germany, 22-24
November 2012.

Organised by:

Digital Aesthetics/Participatory IT Research Centre, Aarhus University
reSource transmedial culture berlin/transmediale festival
Centre for Digital Cultures, Leuphana University of Lüneburg

We hereby invite proposals for participation in a research workshop around
the 2013 theme of the transmediale festival, BWPWAP (Back When Pluto Was A
Planet). We are addressing researchers with diverse backgrounds interested
in opening up some of the paradoxes of contemporary digital art and
culture. Although the workshop is primarily aimed at international PhD
researchers, it is also open to researchers who are pursuing research
without institutional support.

The workshop aims at researching concepts and phenomena that, in the light
of the festival's thematic framework, have become destabilised by network
culture and digital media (see below). Thematically, these may include –
but are not restricted to:

/ techno-cultural displacement and invention
/ fragility of networks
/ disruptive potential of artistic practice
/ paradoxes of digital art and culture
/ organisation after networks
/ participatory research practices
/ research beyond academia
/ network epistemologies
/ networks after social networks

BWPWAP

In referring to the cancellation of Pluto's planetary status in 2006,
BWPWAP (Back When Pluto Was a Planet), the 2013 theme of the transmediale
festival, interrogates techno-cultural processes of displacement and
invention, asking for artistic and speculative responses to new cultural
imaginaries. Back When Pluto Was a Planet, life might have seemed more
innocent, yet whole cultural imaginaries, like planetary systems, may
change overnight, and technical and cultural paradigms along with them. The
festival will take this fragility of culture as a point of departure for
exploring the disruptive potential of technological development and
artistic practice. Can we act like BWPWAP and at same time redefine present
and future cultural practices, inventing networks out of place and out of
time?

This conference and workshop, which precedes transmediale, asks how BWPWAP
can be interpreted in the context of research culture that has been
significantly destabilised by network culture and digital media. If Pluto
didn't exactly fall prey to an epistemological break or a scientific
revolution, but rather to a mundane administrative procedure – a
redefinition of what constitutes a planet and the invention of the category
"dwarf planet" – then what does this say about contemporary research
culture? Is research today occupied more with mundane acts of
recategorisation, and – after Bologna – with what Lyotard already called
performativity? Or does it still engage the kind of marvel and wonder that
so many ascribe to Pluto and that BWPWAP captures as a cultural term? If
BWPWAP captures a time when transmedial culture was researched outside
academia, how does network culture and digital media then contribute to and
transform research culture, forcing it out of its closet and, if not into
the solar system, then at least beyond the academy?

BWPWAP, network culture was already becoming subsumed by social media and
more recently mobile media. Networking and other strategies within software
and net culture have become enmeshed with everyday life and big business.
Research culture was visited by a similar fate: conferences reduced to
networking events to foster cultural capital, and scholarly communications
reduced to impact factors measured by grant givers. In light of this, what
complicity can be constructed, with or without Pluto, between network and
research cultures? Can digital culture save research from itself, and vice
versa? What kinds of technological and artistic practices are suggested by
BWPWAP and might produce rhizomatic effects for research and digital
culture?

WORKSHOP EVENT AND PROCESS

In the context of developing a platform for knowledge exchange, and
research across the arts and sciences, transmediale and research groups at
Aarhus and Leuphana universities have established a partnership to foster
new forms of collaborative research, peer-review, publication and
performative knowledge dissemination. The international research conference
and PhD workshop takes transmediale's thematic framework as a broad
starting point, and is a chance for researchers to share ideas and
development processes across and beyond the time/space of academic research
paradigms. The challenge is to salvage what there is to be salvaged from
network cu

[P2P-F] Pdf - Suppressing Protest: Human Rights Violations in the U.S.

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

http://www.chrgj.org/projects/suppressingprotest.pdf

http://www.chrgj.org/press/docs/release_suppressingprotest.pdf

*Suppressing Protest: *
*Human Rights Violations in the U.S. Response to  *
*Occupy Wall Street *
* *
*The Global Justice Clinic (NYU School of Law) and the Walter Leitner
International Human Rights Clinic at the *
*Leitner Center for International Law and Justice (Fordham Law School)*
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[P2P-F] rehabilitate large-scale damaged ecosystems

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*found via Sepp* on fb...


*Green Gold - Documentary by John D. Liu*

*rehabilitate large-scale damaged ecosystems*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLZmwlPa8A


and


*Hope in a Changing Climate*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK8z0qDtE2g



Published on Jul 19, 2012 by
IntPermacultureDay

"It's possible to rehabilitate large-scale damaged ecosystems."
Environmental film maker John D. Liu documents large-scale ecosystem
restoration projects in China, Africa, South America and the Middle East,
highlighting the enormous benefits to people and planet of undertaking
these efforts globally.

More information:
http://eempc.org/
What If We Change social media project:
http://www.whatifwechange.org

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permaculture happening around the world, culminating in a global day of
celebration on the first Sunday in May annually. The next global day will
take place on SUNDAY 5TH MAY 2013. In the meantime, please send us your
permaculture news, stories, photos and other media to share with the
international community!

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[P2P-F] Programming the Global Brain - MIT - Pdf

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*( found via global brain list )*


http://cci.mit.edu/ 
publications/CCIwp2011-04.pdf

conclusion - excerpt :
*
*
*"A Call to Arms :*
*
*
*We have attempted to identify, in this short article, some of the key
challenges, opportunities, and strategies *
*involved in programming the emerging global brain.  Learning to do this
well is, perhaps, even more urgent *
*than many people realize.  Our world is faced with both existential
threats of unprecedented seriousness *
*(such as the environment) and huge opportunities (such as for scientific
and social progress).  We believe *
*that our ability to face the threats and opportunities of the coming
century will be profoundly affected by *
*how well, and soon, we can master the art of programming our planet’s
emerging global brain."*




*Programming the Global Brain*
*Abraham Bernstein,*
*Mark Klein,*
*and Thomas W. Malone*
*   *
*MIT Center for Collective Intelligence*
*MIT Center for Collective Intelligence Working Paper No. 2011-04*
*To appear in the Communications of the ACM May 2012, Vol. 55, Issue 5*
*November 2011*
*MIT Center for Collective Intelligence*
*Massachusetts Institute of Technology*
*http://cci.mit.edu* 



-- Forwarded message --
From: Francis H
Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Subject: Fwd: MIT researcher invents the "global brain" concept
To: Global Brain Discussion 


**
The following was rejected by the mailing list because the attached paper
was too long. However, you can download the paper at:
http://cci.mit.edu/publications/CCIwp2011-04.pdf


From: ringo

Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 06:49:27 +0400

Subject: MIT researcher invents the "global brain" concept

To: gbr...@listserv.vub.ac.be


A quote from the recent paper named "Programming the Global Brain"

As the scale, scope, and connectivity of these human computer networks

increase, we believe it will become increasingly useful

to view all the people and computers on our planet as constituting a kind

of "global brain."



See the abstract here: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3D2160731

Paper attached.
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