Re: [packman] PMBS update step one finished

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 11.04.2017 15:45, Stefan Seyfried wrote:


Yes, and they are closing all bug reports as "works for me"


Since some time there are quite some more people working on OBS. Yours 
truly, and in  forever, is the boss of most of them. You might want to 
try again ;-)


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Re: [packman] rebuilding gstreamer every day?

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 19.06.2016 21:36, Richard Brown wrote:


UNTESTED and NOT SUPPORTED by the openSUSE Project (yet)


You seem to misunderstand our relationship.

Packman does not follow openSUSEs definition of tested and supported. 
The whole reason we have started this repo is because we don't :-)


Additionally everyone seems to misunderstand that we are not here for 
providing multimedia capabilities and other sketchy apps for openSUSE. 
That might be the impression that openSUSE is giving, because it's the 
only situation where openSUSE points to Packman, but it's not what 
Packman is about.


We build software that is not shipped as part of distributions or that 
are shipped as an outdated version. This includes ffmpeg 3.0.2.


If something needs to change, it's openSUSEs understanding of what 
Packman is and with expectations openSUSE gives people about Packman.


And if you need someone that 'just' rebuilds your sketchy packages and 
is taking all the risks this brings you are at the wrong place here, 
sorry :-)


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Re: [packman] Kodi vs. ffmpeg 2.8

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 02.03.2016 14:06, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Wed, Mar 02, Hendrik Vogelsang wrote:


That sounds like a good idea.


The trouble is that 2.6 and 2.8 use the same SONAMEs, so there is little
gain in having a ffmpeg-2.6 pkg.


That's why I said we should figure out how we can have multiple versions 
installable side by side :-)


> We better figure out why 2.8 causes issues.

That might fix this particular problem but will leave our KODI users in 
the wind whenever they try to get support from the forums...


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Re: [packman] Kodi vs. ffmpeg 2.8

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 02.03.2016 14:00, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Wed, Mar 02, Hendrik Vogelsang wrote:


That sounds like a good idea.


Done.
Still I wonder why 2.8 makes trouble just now, its available since October.


That might be but before your request[1] kodi explicitely required 
libavdevice 55.0.0 which pulled in all the other stuff.


Henne

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Re: [packman] Kodi vs. ffmpeg 2.8

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 02.03.2016 12:43, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Wed, Mar 02, Hendrik Vogelsang wrote:

On 29.02.2016 08:00, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Sun, Feb 28, Hendrik Vogelsang wrote:


this seems to be a bad combination as it leads to crashes in libavformat in
av_opt_next whenever something tries to play sounds.


I think the bug is that kodi links against  ffmpeg-2.8 and libX. And
libX in turn links either against ffmpeg-3 or another libY which links
against ffmpeg-3.


I doubt that as simply building against ffmpeg-2.8[1] is avoiding the crash.


It looks like ffmpeg-2.6 is used for this kodi. We can add yet another
ffmpeg variant and force it via pkgconfig() in kodi.spec.


That sounds like a good idea.


Since ffmpeg 2.8 is used since a long time already its not really a new
bug.


14 days isn't really a long time IMHO :-) And as you can see on the kodi 
forums, users get sent away with problems that occur with this combination.


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Re: [packman] Kodi vs. ffmpeg 2.8

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Hey,

sorry for the late answer, I was sick in bed...

On 29.02.2016 08:00, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Sun, Feb 28, Hendrik Vogelsang wrote:


this seems to be a bad combination as it leads to crashes in libavformat in
av_opt_next whenever something tries to play sounds.


I think the bug is that kodi links against  ffmpeg-2.8 and libX. And
libX in turn links either against ffmpeg-3 or another libY which links
against ffmpeg-3.


I doubt that as simply building against ffmpeg-2.8[1] is avoiding the crash.

> I will see what I find. Did that error occour just

this weekend, or did it already happen during last week?


I've noticed it on the weekend but it could have happened earlier 
because I don't necessarily restart kodi with every package update...


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[packman] Kodi vs. ffmpeg 2.8

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

this seems to be a bad combination as it leads to crashes in libavformat 
in av_opt_next whenever something tries to play sounds.


There are already some user reports for it in the kodi forum.

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=238443=av_opt_next

Building against FFMPEG 2.6 which is the supported version by kodi fixes 
this. BTW this is also true for your kodi 16.0 packages Sagi.


Olaf seems to me we need to get ffmpeg into a state where we can have 
multiple versions installable side by side.


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Re: [packman] An advice regarding Kodi packages

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 23.02.2016 13:26, Markus Kohm wrote:

I would definitively mimic the official packaging.


Me too. But maybe pseudo-packages for groups of addons would be usefull, e.g.
kodi-addons-video that requires all video addons but does not contain any
addon, and a pseudo-package kodi-addons-all that requires all addons.


That's just another layer of indirection isn't it? Whatever Sagi deems 
neccesarry should be required by the main package. The rest can be 
handled by weak dependencies (Recommends).


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Re: [packman] An advice regarding Kodi packages

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 22.02.2016 20:53, Sagi Ben-Akiva wrote:

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Stefan Botter  wrote:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:44:06 +0200 Sagi Ben-Akiva  wrote:


1. Do you think we should keep them in 2 separate projects or merge
them to one ?
2. Should we provide a standalone package for each binary addon ?


I would prefer option 1


Kodi team builds the packages for Ubuntu and they have a single package for
each addon.


I would definitively mimic the official packaging. This will be way less 
confusing for people using the package as I suspect this will quickly be 
reflected in the official documentation...


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Re: [packman] publishing disabled due to ffmpeg3

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 16.02.2016 08:08, Olaf Hering wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, Olaf Hering wrote:


The ffmpeg package was upgraded to version 3.0, most likely by accident.
As a result many packages fail to build. To avoid broken rpm
dependencies I have disabled publishing. It should be enabled once
everything is green again in the /monitor page.


How should this be handled? My idea is to create a temporary (or
permanent) staging project which contains _link's to all packages which
have ffmpeg in BuildRequires.


You can also do project links. Setup a project, project link Mulitmedia, 
setup the same Repositories for it and update ffmpeg. Like openSUSE does 
in the Factory staging projects [1]


Henne

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Re: [packman] Intro

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey Fred,

On 20.07.2014 16:41, Frederic Crozat wrote:

 I'd like to introduce myself for those who already don't know me

Never heard of you ;-)

 I've created an account on PBMS (fcrozat) which need to be enabled and
 I have some packages I'd like to upload in Packman for everybody to
 use (ATM, related to PS Vita).

Your account is active, fire away :-) If you want the package to reach
the general packman repo and the website you need to submit it to one of
the top-level projects

Essentials - Multimedia - Extra
 - Games

Have fun and let us know if you need anything.

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Re: [packman] Vivante graphics drivers

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 15.06.2014 11:33, Josua Mayer wrote:

 Now thats not a legal You are allowed to do it thing, but maybe you
 have someone on the packman team who can judge if it is okay to provide
 the vivante binaries on packman.

Our general policy is: If unsure we distribute and see how it goes :-)

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Re: [packman] Vivante graphics drivers

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 16.06.2014 11:21, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
 * Hendrik Vogelsang hvo...@hennevogel.de [2014-06-16 10:05]:
 On 15.06.2014 11:33, Josua Mayer wrote:

 Now thats not a legal You are allowed to do it thing, but maybe you
 have someone on the packman team who can judge if it is okay to provide
 the vivante binaries on packman.

 Our general policy is: If unsure we distribute and see how it goes :-)
 
 I think it it is neither reasonable nor fair to knowingly put
 those who provide the PMBS infrastructure or mirrors at risk of
 receiving cease and desist letter or even criminal prosecution.

Well then you shouldn't provide infrastructure or a mirror. Those who do
are well aware of this policy...

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Re: [packman] too much updates

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 27.03.2014 17:21, Guido Berhoerster wrote:

 The alternative would be to have separate
 projects for each release and linking the Packman packages to the
 corresponding Packages in stable releases on OBS 

One of the main reasons for having Packman is to provide updates to the
latest and greatest versions of various packages

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Re: [packman] branch from opensuse build service

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 07.01.2014 12:01, Diego Ercolani wrote:

 Is it possible to branch from pmbs a package obtained from obs or I can only 
 get a copy from obs and then I have to commit a new project under pmbs?

There is an inter-connect from the openSUSE OBS to PMBS. The project is
openSUSE.org. E.g.

osc -A https://pmbs-api.links2linux.org branch
openSUSE.org:openSUSE:Factory aaa_base

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Re: [packman] History of Packman

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 23.11.2013 23:32, Hartmut wrote:

 thanks for that link, that is the look when I had my first contact with 
 Packman. But what I'm looking for is the time, the Packman-team got 
 together and the motivation and the dificulties and so on. The mailing 
 list from December 2002 is very interesting, but does not tell how they 
 got together and how they got Packman starting.

I don't think there is a record of that. If you want to go ancient, only
Waldemar m...@waldemar-brodkorb.de and Marc m...@links2linux.de can
know :-)

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Re: [packman] History of Packman

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Hey,

On 21.11.2013 18:30, Hartmut wrote:

 are there any web-pages about the history of Packman?

No, why? :-)

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Re: [packman] SLE 11

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 18.11.2013 09:04, Stefan Botter wrote:

 OK, this is a fine documentation on the support cycle.
 I do not know about the status of GA, but according to the SuSE website
 you can buy LTSS for up to 5 years support on any SP.

No one that is using packman is using LTSS, trust me. LTSS has a heavy,
heavy price tag to it (hint: try to find a price on suse.com ;-). And
without LTSS, SPs are only supported until 6 months after the next SP.

Let's build for the latest SP that is available, forget about the rest.

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Re: [packman] Donations

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey,

On 25.03.2013 21:57, Dmitriy Perlow wrote:

 Is anyway to donate to packman team?

Yes you can donate your time with package maintenance or mirroring for
the project. Other donations we don't really accept.

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Re: [packman] Evergreen 11.4

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hey Wolfgang,

On 29.10.2012 09:06, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

 da wir openSUSE 11.4 im Rahmen des Evergreen-Projekts weiterhin mit
 Maintenance-Updates versorgen werden, würde ich gerne im Vorfeld
 schonmal darum bitten, dass die 11.4 Repositories, sofern machbar,
 weiterhin für die Benutzer verfügbar bleiben.
 
 Ginge das?

Klar, machen wir.

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[packman] SLE11-SP2 enabled for Essentials

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Hey,

by popular request I have enabled a new build target for Essentials, 
SLE11-SP2. Currently there are a couple of crucial packages failing. If 
you can, have a look at failures please. I'll do so too :-)


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Re: [packman] [PM] MPlayer 1.0rc2_r29796-2.pm.3.2 (openSUSE 11.2/i586)

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hi,


Kalle wrote:

 I have seen that you are the creator of MPlayer rpms on packman. To my 
 knowledge 1.0 rc2 is about 2 years old. Is there any reason why the svn 
 version isn't provided from time to time? It looks like that mplayer doesn't 
 release new versions but just refers to the svn.

Guess what the r29796 in the version stands for. :)

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Re: [packman] KBasic

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hi,

Илья Черных wrote:
 oldcpu wrote:
 KBasic does read like a very interesting package. I too would like to
 see it available as an rpm for openSUSE.
 It belongs to the KDE repo. Not here. Please talk to the KDE team. They
 have their list at opensuse-...@opensuse.org
 
 It does not belong to KDE repo. KBasic is not part of KDE.

What are you talking about? There even is a KDE version on their
homepage. And anyway, even if its not official part of KDE it belongs
clearly there. Its using QT, phonon and other KDE libs.

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Re: [packman] MPlayer

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Hi,

on 03/22/2009 04:31 PM Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote:

 Since I don't know when we finally release, I'd recommend to use latest
 svn (as a kind of prerelease), it should contain quite a few
 improvements compared to 27637, including vdpau.

The update is already in our SVN. Just not build yet because i did not
find the time. Maybe this week

 Attached is a patch especially useful for x86-64, it contains the future
 wmapro implementation from ffmpeg-soc repository. With this patch,
 binary codecs should not be necessary anymore (in case you have
 bandwidth problems).

Is that in your svn already?

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Re: [packman] libusb - openSUSE 11.1

[Hendrik Vogelsang]

Hi,

Lewis, Simon wrote:

 Apologies for contacting you directly. I know libusb is not your
 project but I and many others have problem with libusb in openSUSE
 11.1

Excuse my maybe stupid question. Why don't you contact the responsible
developer? :)

You will find all necessary information on how to do that on the
opensuse wiki.

http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs

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