[PAYCO] PAYCO NATIONAL CONGRESS POSTPONED
Receive Revolutionary greetings. Please note that the PAYCO National Congress has been abandoned and it is been postponed to a date that will be communicated as soon as possible. Afrika is Ours!!! Yours in the Struggle Lucky Khoza SG -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Cde Ndima, We welcome your so called criticism so to say, this simply means you believe that we can do more or even better than we are doing now. However I am unable to make sense of whatever you are trying to say. First and foremost you do not know or realize how difficult it is to lead a structure like PAYCO. For your information, we sacrificed a lot for PAYCO to still be in existence to date, faced harassment that is untold to this date. We took leadership of PAYCO at a time when soothsayers and prophets of doom were writing its obituary and it was not fashionable to associate yourself with the structure, but due to the resoluteness of the current NEC the structure stood the test of time hence you are able to criticize us now. There is no way that you can criticize something that is non-existent. Maybe you were not following events in the party, you must remember that we took leadership and ran PAYCO during a very hostile time in the PAC. Parallel structures were formed to cause confusion because we were a big problem to the incumbent, but that did not discourage us as we are still standing strong and our resolution with regards to what is happening in the party is well known. If you did not know, we were the first to call a meeting with Letlapa and tell him right on his face to step down, hence the hostility towards PAYCO. As for Conference/Congress, it is not like calling a stokvel gathering...there are logistical issues to be sorted out first, unless you want to have a congress somewhere under a tree maybe in Joubert Park, yes you can achieve such just by a blink of an eye. Congress will sit and you will be able to judge us as per the resolutions taken in our Kimberly Congress (2009). We are not here to beat our own drum; history is there to absolve us. Just continue drinking beer comrade. We are always open for any kind of communication so that comrades can talk with information not some ill-informed criticisms and accusations. War against the enemy, peace amongst the Afrikans Umhlaba!!! On 10/8/12, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Comrade Linda Ndebele How better and different is PAYCO under your leadership? Your PAYCO NEC is full of cowards who want to fight political organisational battles in facebook and paycogoogle! Do not claim easy victories son of the soil and tell no lies! PAYCO is useless and non-existent component structure. You fail to attend PAC NEC meetings and confront Letlapa Mphahlele head on, this also imply that you as the PAYCO President or Comrade Lucky Khoza should attend PAC National Working Committee meetings to defend the party line and constitution. Days of Azanyu have come and gone, now there is PAYCO under your leadership, you are not only hypocrites but just the same like Mphahlele Letlapa, PAYCO has no branches, no regions and no provincial structures which are politically active. Julius Malema with GG (failed) Woodwork subject in high school developed a programme for youth mobilisation and ANCYL has become a mouthpiece of the African youth? PAYCO NEC cannot even organise a national conference or national congress what a shame mafrika. I know you will hate me for this but we will continue drinking beer together! Izwe lethu Ndima On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Mduduzi Sibeko msib...@randwater.co.zawrote: Cde’s Seroke and Ndebele The survival of the PAC in this century is largely depended on how it is able to prove its relevance to the general polity of this country. As a foot soldier of this movement from the 90’s, I remember, prior to 1994, we succeeded in indoctrinating the masses the ideology of Pan Africanism. To retrospect, places such as Tembisa had more than 5 branches of PAC, this is just to mention one area. The East rand ,in particular, was replete with PAC structures, even though, it was not to the strides which the charterists had made. Today, I can still see the walls inscribed with PAC’s slogans in places such as Katlehong and elsewhere. What was the story behind such strides ?. in my mind, I posit that it was our non-collaborationist stance during the negotiations era with a concomitant of withstanding neo-colonialism of the ANC. The belligerence of APLA against the settler regime should be accorded a credit. With our poor electoral showing of 1.2 % in 1994, which was far below the forecast of our detractors, who had believed that we would clinch a negligible margin of 5 %, we degenerated far lesser than that. I remember the NEC( just before the elections in 1994) contemplating a legal action against the Star newspaper for publishing such a gloomy forecast for the PAC. If the total of 240 000 people who voted the PAC were file and rank members, why did the PAC not retain such member and expand thereof. instead, the poignant reality was that in successive elections the number plummeted until it reached its nadir of less than 60.000 voters. The disquieting thing
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[PAYCO] PAC Back to Constitutionality
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Re: [PAYCO] PACOSA OR PAC OF AZANIA???
Greetings noble sons and daughters of the soil. PAYCO Google group remains the only viable tool for PAC of Azania members and Africanists to conference regularly, and this platform will continue to inform and educate as long as there are still progressive forces in the PAC of Azania. It's a known fact that some of those who claim to love the PAC of Azania hate this platform with passion, unfortunately to them PAYCO googlegroup is here to stay insults or no insults, misinforming or informing. As a young cadre in the organisation I am expecting comrades who might have joined the PAC of Azania before me to guide, give direction, inform and provide correct ideological grounding to us young cadres. However reading comment from the likes of MoAfrika Narius Moloto, someone gets the contrary. Noble son Narius Moloto, each and every time you comment on PAYCO googlegroup your submissions are very thin in content and lack substance at all. You made a lot of hullabaloo when this subject of name change was brought up; you even called it dirty propaganda. But to my amusement and to a lot of members of this platform if you go to the government gazette which you referred people to, there is indeed a motion to fiddle with the patent of the PAC of Azania. No one shall wakeup from his/her dreamland and decided to play with the history of our forefathers. As long as there are still progressive forces within the PAC of Azania your evil deeds are deemed to fail. PAC of Azania is not a private company whereby the owner or the board of the company can do as they like; PAC of Azania remains a revolutionary party not the liberal party you are intending to turn it into. I would like to make a humble plea to you and your like minded man people to refrain from misleading and misinforming sober members of this platform, your comment are not doing any good as they are just exposing your ignorance and stupidity to a certain extend. May you please do the honourable thing and protect the rights of the African construction members who are continuously exploited under your nose, because it's clear that you are anticipating that the PAC of Azania can be a one man show and a ticket to self enrichment with your cohorts. It's people like you who are continuously derailing the growth of our beloved party, because you add no value except hallucinating day in and day out. Your sheer arrogance and personal aggrandizement will never grow this party! Izwe Lethu!! Lucky On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Sebenzile Mlaza sebenzi...@raf.co.zawrote: First of all, let me clear the air and state my political credentials in the party and get that out of the way as quickly as possibly as I can. I have none and never been to exile and neither do I have any political ambitions whatsoever to occupy any politically positing in whatever capacity at this moment and in fact even too young to claim any. I thus find this unnecessary self-aggrandizement uncalled for, to say the least, for at no stage have I ever thought you (Happy) nor Narius as political neophytes of my own doing. There was in fact no need of you to even suggest that *you speak from informed basis (sic)*. I suppose the hogwash and gibberish that was posted by Narius yesterday and today is meant to be some form of political education to younger members of this forum. The fact of the matter is that Mphahlele and his committee have no ‘* locoas* *standi’* to act or interfere in the affairs of the PAC as in terms of the *Western Cape High Court ruling under Case Number 12174/2008 (in the matter between Motsoko Pheko v Letlapa Mphahlele Others) that the constitution that was adopted at the Fort Hare congress held on the 04th – 06th July 2008, in terms of which Letlapa Mphahlele was subsequently elected president is null and void and therefore rendering the leadership of Letlapa Mphahlele and others elected in terms of the aforesaid constitution illegitimate*. And this cannot be ignored it has to be sorted out once and for all. My thoughts stands corrigible on this one as the original logo has been materially altered and to have them corrected is to completely refute that the word AZANIA has not been unceremoniously removed from the logo albeit with no mandate. Fact is, the word AZANIA has been removed from the logo, suppose you've all properly read page ten of this gazette. Izwe Lethu ... i-Afrika... *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Narius Moloto *Sent:* 09 February 2011 02:09 PM *To:* payco@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [PAYCO] PACOSA OR PAC OF AZANIA??? We need to clear lies and their intentions.this platform and cetain smses were spreading wrong and misleading information about the name change.let us agree this are the agents whos intention is to sow confusion and arnachy. *From:* payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dzumbu
[PAYCO] Fwd: Matriculants 300 Engineers wanted - scholarships
-- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com Title: State Information Technology Age From: Christina Nomdo Sent: 22 October 2010 04:11 PM To: Rapcan Subject: FW: 300 Engineers wanted FYI Christina Nomdo Executive Director RAPCAN TEL: +27 (0)21 712 2330 FAX: +27 (0)21 7122365 MOBILE: +27 (0)83 776 7067 WEB: www.rapcan.org.za From: Janine Espin [mailto:jan...@therightchoice.co.za] Sent: 22 October 2010 03:31 PM To: 'Verona Bowie'; jrus...@sadtu.org.za; Christina Nomdo; 'BBN'; 'The Kusasa Project' Cc: 'Eckart Zollner'; 'Mark Espin' Subject: 300 Engineers wanted Hi, please forward this to any school or student whom you know may be interested in applying for this great opportunity. Regards, Janine Hi All Kindly assist in identifying matriculants who are interested in Engineering. Eskom will provide them with scholarships. Kindly forward this message to as many people as you can. I have attached the application form for those without email facilities. The requirement is usually C symbols in Math, Science and English. Your assistance will make a great difference for the country. Details will be given to the interested candidates. Kind Regards Niamatullah Kemp ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK (TEL)021 483 9060 (FAX)021 4839061 (E-MAIL)niamatullah.k...@capetown.gov.za CAPE TOWN FILM PERMIT OFFICE 8 TH FLOOR WALDORF BUILDING ST GEORGES MALL,CAPE TOWN PO BOX 16548,VLAEBERG,8018 SOUTH AFRICA
Re: [PAYCO] PAYCO VS PACyl ON SA FM
M’Afrika Moloto, It is always interesting to hear from elder members of your caliber on PAYCO platform. As young cadres of the party I hope we are still going to learn a lot and we hope you are not going to mislead us one way or the other. Your stance on party building seems to be cut in stone and it’s not open for the very same party members you are trying to unite engage on it and to me that amount to sheer arrogance. Your argument on the so called Alice Congress resembles the thinking of someone who is trying to bury his head in the sand and ignore clear party principles. You talk about PAC branches those who were in good standing? Maybe we do not have the same understanding of good standing as per the PAC constitution. From which constitution were those branches running their affairs from, since there was a rule by decree prior Alice? We all know that the constitution was suspended and there was a rule by decree which till to date is still not justified. I would like you to answer few questions here: 1. How can branches exist if there is no constitution? 2. The branches you are talking about are you talking about the man who was ruling by decree? 3. How do you submit amendments to the constitution if the party is a one man show (Rule by decree)? 4. How do you amend a suspended constitution? 5. You talk as head of party building; do we have such a position in the PAC constitution? I will be very glad if you can be able to clarify me on these issues. Logic will tell that you first reinstate the suspended constitution and then the party returns to constitutionality; it is then that you can allow branches to engage on sections of the constitution to be amended. Your attack on PAYCO is uncalled for, ridiculous and absurd, it clearly shows that you were observing events of the party from the sidelines. PAYCO remains the only organized component structure of the PAC. PAYCO is the only structure that reminds people that there is the PAC, in simple terms we are responsible for keeping the ship of the PAC afloat. As PAYCO we took a principled stance to support Letlapa Mphahlele’s candidacy and presidency, unless you want to deny this. PAYCO supported Letlapa's candidacy on the basis that as president, together with the leadership collective would tackle the ruling party and make the party more visible in the national political landscape. Because it is only when you are visible you can get the numbers in our country’s system of elections and governance. He agreed that he would adopt a combative approach towards the ruling party. PAYCO expected him to come with a revolutionary programme of action which would keep members of the party focused on mass struggles. PAYCO expected him to support all component structures of the party to effectively fulfill their roles in the party. To our amusement this was contrary!!! He was and still not prepared to speak against the ruling party till today. The last time we heard his voice it was when he was regretting the death of ET. He made factionalism in the party the order of the day. He pulled every trick in his book to refused and obstructed the NEC from coming up with programme of action, policy documents nor a single strategic document. Unless you can show us such. He never had anything to do with component structures, to him they were useless. PAYCO tried to be patient with him, we even arranged a meeting with him to let him know how we feel, but that did not yield any good results for the party. It was against this background that we withdraw our principled support for him and called on him to step down because it was then clear to us that we have been hoodwinked to support a candidate who was in a mission to cripple the party. I would like to agree with you we you say that “Gone are the days when individuals are picked from the street to lead the PAC structures.” Unless you forgot that Letlapa is one of them. The biggest lesson we learned with the Letlapa experience is that we must never again go and pick people from the street and allow them to lead the PAC again. In a revolutionary party like the PAC with genuine leadership, the centre must hold, if not everything falls apart and truly speaking the center is not holding at the moment and you know why. PAYCO firmly believes that it’s just a matter of time until members of the PAC returns be party to normality and the center holds. The days of people holding the party at ransom are really numbered. Izwe Lethu!!! Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Narius Moloto g...@bcawu.co.za wrote: In the party building of the pac we agree with you.we spent lot of our enegy negatively either agaist each other or the party leadership.we continue to waiste our energy other than focusing on what must be done to rebuild the party.the party programme at the moment is to build party branches in every section or zone of our townships,suburburn and villages
[PAYCO] PAYCO VS PACyl ON SA FM
Revolutionary greetings. Please tune on to SAFM to follow the debate What: Debate Topic: Who is the ligitimate PAC Youth wing Where: SA FM TIME: 09-10am Day: 28(Friday) May 2010 Izwe Lethu!!! Sello Tladi PAYCO National Spokesperson 083 859 1654 -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
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PAYCO appreciates the contribution ,especially the suggestions made. We also acknowledge the constructive criticisms made. Despite all the good things reflected on the contribution allow me to analyze and correct some misconceptions that may be damaging to PAYCO and mislead those who are observing our activities from a distance: I agree that our national presence is not at its best,it needs serious attention. With correct tools of political analysis you would realize that it was highly impossible for PAYCO to occupy any serious political space in the South African political arena in the last five years or so, since the national psyche of people had been conditioned and enticed with the anc internal power struggles. The media was embedded with the Mbeki camp or the Zuma camp and currently the focus is gradually shifting to 2012. Again It should be noted as well that our participation on political activities is on ad hoc basis, as we spend the better part of our time on our paying jobs and start participating in politics after work or during weekends, in contrast to our rivals who spend all their working days and weekends on politics as they are employed full time to do political work. This factor is so important as it determines our effectiveness to respond timeously on urgent political issues as they happen. PAYCO has no office or a full-time office bearer, this is the handicap. Under normal circumstances the motherbody is suppose to create political space for its structure at a national level, but this is not happening currently. Problems within the party also affect our national standing. The leadership standing in the PAC affect PAYCO's national presence. The existence of the so called PAC youth league has affected PAYCO national standing as well. Lack of financial means have also crippled some of our plans that might have given us national prominence. PAYCO should be having its budget from the PAC, but that is not the case. Remember its programs not media statements that make a lasting impact on the minds of our people about a party and its activities. But despite all these short falls we have made remarkable achievements in a very short space of time, I will not dwell on them as MAfrica Mmbara has already elaborated on them. Majoni in PAYCO we are pleased by your support and contributions in building our revolutionary party. We continue to be inspired and motivated by leaders of your calibre and conviction. We promise to consider your suggestions and to consult you in our march to build a strong PAYCO and PAC. Izwe Lethu!!! Your in the Struggle Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General 073 371 8233 secretarygene...@payco.org.za www.payco.org.za On 4/26/10, Dzumbu Mmbara dzu...@live.com wrote: Comrade Mduduzi On behalf of PAYCO i welcome your call but i must say since the incumbent NEC came to power a lot of work has been done to make sure our existence is never forgotten. Through the hard work of our Spokesperson Sello Tladi we have been featured on various publications, news media houses and radio stations almost every second day. Commentaries by the SG of PAYCO Lucky Khoza and by the President of PAYCO Linda Ndebele have been featured in various newspapers online and in hard copy. And recently we have also launched a website to ensure that we are easily accessible. I must also say in passing, though there will soon be a proper report, that we have also embarked on re-launching and launching branches all over the country and this weekend we successfully launched in Welkom. With that in mind, Son of the Soil, Your noble call has not fell on deaf ears and we will make sure we intensify our programmes. Izwe Lethu. Dzumbu Subject: [PAYCO] Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:45:22 +0200 From: msib...@randwater.co.za To: payco@googlegroups.com CC: payco@googlegroups.com; paycoofaza...@gmail.com; sizan...@mweb.co.za; msib...@randwater.co.za; sero...@hotmail.com; cunningham.ngcuk...@investecmail.com The ANC Youth League and its leader, Julius Malema stand prominently in the South African political landscape. Malema has exhibited the most awful arrogance and ignorance. However, his thrust of Nationalization of mines ( now encompassing financial institution such as Banks) has received a wider media attention, the City Press yesterday reported that Malema is posed to visit countries such as Cuba, China, Zambia and so on. The purpose of these visits is supposedly the learning of how the Nationalization has worked in those countries. To me this and other antecedents leading to this have no meaning in me. However, I am very concerned that we as Payco remain dormant in these political activities. Can’t we have some programs that can draw public attention? Why do we let Malema to be sensational to some that hail him. I know that some among us will readily reply to me and say, this comrade is misguided, Malema is not our program”. This reply may sound
[PAYCO] PAYCO LAUNCH AT CUT A GREAT SUCCESS
Receive sincere and revolutionary greetings from PAYCO NEC. PAYCO would like to inform all and sundry that on the 24th April 2010 at the Free State Province, we have successfully launched the structure at the CUT Campus and ran successful POLITICAL SCHOOLS in CUT and Bloemfontein Campuses. It was indeed motivating to see the youth in Free State engaging in robust political discussions. This was made possible through sacrifices by NEC of PAYCO and the (PAYCO/PASMA) leadership in the Free State. We shall Serve, Suffer and Sacrifice for PAYCO to be the only true vanguard of the African Youth. We would like to thank all the noble sons and daughters of the African Soil who responded to the clarion call made by PAYCO. PAYCO shall be engaging in more programs of that nature countrywide, we call upon all the African youth to join the only Africanist Youth movement. Izwe Lethu!!! Yours in the Struggle Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General 073 371 8233 secretarygene...@payco.org.za www.payco.org.za www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] PAYCO LAUNCH AT CUT Free State
Receive revolutionary greeting noble sons and daughters of the soil. Be informed that we shall be launching PAYCO branch in Central University of Technology Welkom Campus on Saturday 24 April 2010,at 10H00. All Africanists (PAYCO/PASMA/PAC/APLA/PAWO) in Free State are called upon to honour the event with attendance wearing PAYCO/PASMA/PAC/APLA/PAWO regalia. PAYCO NEC shall be part of this historic event. Yours for a classless society Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] PAC DAY CELEBRATION
Receive revolutionary greetings noble sons and daughters of the soil. PAYCO would like to thank all revolutionaries graced the event on Saturday (10/April/2010) PAC DAY CELEBRATION, this remains an important day in the history of our party. We hope that whatever we learned on that event will make us even stronger on the cause of our struggle.NOT YET UHURU!!! Izwe Lethu!!! Your in the Struggle Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary Generel 073 371 8233 i...@payco.org.za -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[PAYCO] PAYCO WEBSITE
Revolutionary Greetings Noble Sons and Daughters of the soil. The much awaited PAYCO WEBSITE ,http://www.payco.org.za, is online. Officially launched today (10th April 2010) on the occasion of the PAC of AZANIA DAY in Alexandra Township, Altrek Hall. Come visit for useful revolutionary content. IZWE LETHU!!! Yours in the Struggle Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General 073 371 8233 -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[PAYCO] 51st ANNIVERSARY OF THE BIRTH OF THE PAC OF AZANIA
Receive revolutionary greetings noble sons and daughter of the soil. We would like to seize this opportunity and make a clarion call to cordially invite you to attend the 51st ANNIVERSARY OF THE BIRTH OF THE PAC OF AZANIA rally envisaged as follows: Venue: ALTREK HALL, Eastbank Avenue Street, Alexandra Township Date: 10 April 2010 (Saturday) Time: 10:00 AM We will be officially launching www.payco.org.za. PAYCO request all and sundry to grace this occasion to show that 51 Years down the line PAC of AZANIA is still the only relevant party for the African people. NOT YET UHURU!!! Izwe Lethu!!! Yours in the Struggle Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General 073 371 8233 i...@payco.org.za -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] PAYCO Website Updates
Receive revolutionary greetings noble sons and daughters of the soil. PAYCO would like to call on all former leaders of AZANYU/PAYCO to send their photos so that we can have a gallery of all leaders and all that, if possible please include a brief history of when and in what position did they serve. We call on all those who have pictures from previous congresses to send them through for a rich gallery on our website. Izwe Lethu!!! Lucky Khoza PAYCO Secretary General 073 371 8233 -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to payco+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [PAYCO] *sigh*
As much as I agree with you that Careerism, factionalism, parliament causes a lot of problems in the party,but I reject the idea off closing shop. This statement can only be uttered by the enemies of the PAC. As they did year in and year out, even those who claim to be the party's leaders. The party still has the capable leaders in all structures,but the PAC has no leadership and cadre development strategy. Party members lack ideological cohesion which affects its leadership hence we find ourselves in this situation of careerism, factionalism, parliament and etcs. Remember you are in a party without a national Programme of action that would unite party structures and leaders to a common goal and of cause that common goal is not anywhere near careerism or parliament. Lastly we lack a national leader with a vision and ideologically grounded who can marshall all party members towards a common goal and those are the aims and objectives adopted on the formation of the party. We are a party with a rich history and the only party with viable policies for Africans in Africa. In this time of our struggle we need all Africanist to come together so that we can be able to defeat neo-colonialism, it's not time to call it a day now. The PAC has got a lot to offer to the country, the continent and the globe at large. Courage MaAfrika Izwe Lethu!!! Lucky Khoza PAYCO SG On 3/28/10, Katlego Mphomane mphoma...@webmail.co.za wrote: I am of an opinion that the PAC fold its flag and put it in the museum. The PAC is good as dead, Ma'Afrika all of us are raping the memories of all MARTYRS that this org produced in its glory days.Careerism,factinalism,paliarment etc. has killed the PAC. -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to payco+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to payco+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
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Landmark land claim ruling made 2010-02-24 08:04 Sonja Carstens Pretoria - In a watershed finding, a land claim has been rejected because the community which laid claim to the land does not have the skills to maintain the current production. On Friday the Land Claims Court in Johannesburg refused the Bahiring community's claim to the farms of eight landowners outside Koster in the North West. It was found that, among other reasons, relocating the community is not feasible because the land has high agricultural potential and the farms are intensively cultivated. Furthermore, E I Moosa, acting on behalf of the Department of Land Affairs, conceded in his closing argument that it is not within the government's financial means to successfully relocate the community. Huge relocation costs It would have cost the State more than R70m to buy the farms from the landowners. It would have cost a further estimated R210m to relocate the Bahiring community's 400 families and provide equipment and other resources for them to continue cultivating the land. The court was told that it is pointless handing cash over to communities to develop the land on which they are relocated, since the communities don't have the skills to ensure that the money is used for that purpose. An official of the local land claims commissioner testified that none of the 330 relocation projects he currently manages in the North-West is successful. Some of the greatest obstacles these communities face are a lack of funding and skills to maintain the agricultural operations. Transfer of the land would have a negative impact on the food production and economic activities of the highly productive farms. Current annual production Furthermore, there is no national budget available specifically for the relocation of the community in the North-West. Each of the 400 families would only receive R6 595 from the government for relocation. The current annual production on these farms is 1 800 calves, 5 900 tons of mielies, 400 tons of beans, 470 tons of sunflower seed and 1 080 000 litres of milk. It was also taken into consideration that the community was compensated when they were relocated 80km away from the farms in the 1960s. At the time the farms were not commercially developed. Peet Grobbelaar, the farm owners' legal representative, said on Tuesday that the verdict would have a major impact on other pending land claims, because this is the first time that a court has found that the relocation involved in the claim is not feasible due to the land's current use and production. The verdict has created a precedent because the current use and production of the land will have to be taken into account in future when it is decided whether relocation is feasible. According to Grobbelaar, the finding also points to the total failure of government to effectively support relocation programmes. In short, the entire land claims plan is a failure, especially in the North-West, said Grobbelaar. - Beeld Shortcut to: http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/90c2994ceec34763ab5832a9ce694940/24-02-2010-08-04/Landmark_land_claim_ruling_made -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
[PAYCO] NEWLY ELECTED PAYCO NEC
Sons and daughters of the soil please find the PAYCO NEC Elected in the Congress held in Kimberly on the 30th October 2009 - 1st November 2009. President - Linda Ndebele Deputy President - Sipho Nkala Secretary General - Lucky Khoza Deputy Secretary General - Motlatsi Mogoiwa Treasurer General - Leaganoshi Lesufi National Political Commissar - Lubabalo Popo Secretary for International Relations - Sello Tladi Secretary for Youth Development - Maxwell Mosikare Secretary for Socio-Economic Security - Dzumbuluwani Mmbara Secretary for Land Mineral Resources - Wandile Sontlaba Secretary for Justice Security Services - Thulani Phike Izwe Lethu!!! Yours in the struggle Lucky Khoza PAYCO SG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[PAYCO] Fwd: PAYCO NATIONAL CONGRESS DOCUMENTS
My dear comrade Khuliso,I find it disheartening to hear this kind of iresponsible utterances from a comrade of your nature and calibre.First and for most -- Forwarded message -- From: Lucky Khoza luc...@jse.co.za Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:57:05 +0200 Subject: PAYCO NATIONAL CONGRESS DOCUMENTS To: magigw...@gmail.com My dear comrade Khuliso, I find it disheartening to hear such kind of irresponsible utterances from a comrade of your nature and calibre. First and for most will you be able to tell when was PAYCO disbanded i.e (day/date, time, venue), obviously no you cannot. PAYCO as a structure must be thoroughly consulted for such an action to take place, you do not wake today and feel excite and just try to disband a structure. It's the thinking and the actions like yours that put the PAC where it is today. Forming parallel structures will never see the light off the day. What you are saying remain a fairytale for you and your cohorts in your own dreamland. Do you really know that the process which led to the so called pacyl was flawed and there for declared illegal by the courts? You are continually acting in contempt of the courts by propagating such a structure. Common sense tells that you are not in par with the latest developments in the movement and in the country at large. With due respect Son of the soil I never doubted your political orientation even for a single second, but surprisingly you proved me wrong. What you are doing amount to a dog barking at a moving car. Base on what you said noble son, I tend to believe that you are not well informed. PAYCO will exists as long as progressive force exists. Regards, Lucky Khoza The views and opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender of this message and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the JSE. Consequently, the JSE does not accept responsibility for such views and opinions and this message should not be read as representing the views and opinions of the JSE or constitute binding terms and conditions without subsequent written confirmation and an authorizing resolution where required. Each page attached hereto must also be read in conjunction with this disclaimer and should any part of this message be unclear, the issue should be clarified with the Company Secretary of the JSE. Confidentiality note: The message is intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are notified that any distribution, use of or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify the sender immediately. JSE Limited, Reg. No. 2005/022939/06 -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Lucky Appreciate Khoza +27 (0) 73 371 8233 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
