RE: Adobe Audition

[Steve Jacobson]

Dave,

It would be nice if we get someone with current information, but I can provide 
a little.  Starting with version 3 of Adobe Audition, they began displaying 
some data on the screen using a method that is generally not picked up by 
screen readers.  I used Audition a lot before that version but switched to 
Sound Forge.  However, it is my understanding that they have done a pretty good 
job over time of making data that is not picked up by screen readers available 
through MSAA and UIA.  While this is very good, it generally means that one 
probably will have to get scripts to get at this information.  It is my 
understanding that there are JAWS scripts but they may not be free.  The bottom 
line is that Adobe Audition is probably worth checking out to see if you can do 
what you need to do with it, but the experience may be somewhat different than 
with sound forge.  

I would be very curious to know what you are required to do with Adobe Audition 
that you can't do with Sound Forge.  There were things I felt were easier to do 
with Audition, and I still sometimes get a little frustrated with selecting 
portions of a file with Sound Forge and wonder if I should check out Audition 
again.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Subject: Adobe Audition

I have been a SoundeForge user since the early 2000's and am extremely 
satisfied with the product.  However, I may have a specific requirement 
for Adobe Audition  in the future.


Does anyone on this list use that app and if so is the accessibility good?


Any information would be appreciated.





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Adobe Audition

[Dave Marthouse]

I have been a SoundeForge user since the early 2000's and am extremely 
satisfied with the product.  However, I may have a specific requirement 
for Adobe Audition  in the future.



Does anyone on this list use that app and if so is the accessibility good?


Any information would be appreciated.





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Dave Marthouse
dmartho...@gmail.com

Adobe Audition centre channel extract

[Laurence Taylor]

This is what used to be called Cool Edit.

I am using Audition 1.5 to clean up recording of old 78rpm records.

The main process involves the Centre Channel Extract function
(since most surface noise is out of phase), and it works very
well, often needing nothing else to be done.

However, the resulting file has a low-level repeated burst of
phase distortion, a sort of meep ... meep ... meep, which can
be very distracting.

I've tried playing with the settings but nothing seems to help
much, likewise filtering doesn't assist as the meeps are too
wideband.

Any ideas as to what it cold be and whay I could do about it, or
is it just something I'll have to put up with? (Up with which I
will have to put).

It's certainly much better than the frying bacon that was there
before!
-- 
rgds
LAurence

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Re: Adobe Audition centre channel extract

[Steve Jacobson]

Laurence,

I used Audition 1.5 for a long time, and liked it.  There are two things I can 
suggest.  First,make sure that the sound you are hearing is really part of the 
file 
and not a problem with Audition's playback.  Create the file using the center 
channel extractor and then play it with another program such as Windows 
Media Player.  

Second, I was thinking that the center channel extractor did more than just 
combine channels, and it is possible that combining channels will do most of 
what you want to do.  Try just combining channels and see whether it avoids the 
problem and gets you most of the way there or not.  I think there is an 
item to do that but don't remember where it is any more, or you can probably do 
it by creating a monaural file.  

I had to let Audition go  because I couldn't get it to install on a 64-bit 
system.  It was more complicated than that as I had upgraded from previous 
versions 
and couldn't install one of the previous versions that was required.  I wonder, 
though, if there could be some incompatibility with Windows 7.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 13:45:51 +0100, Laurence Taylor wrote:

This is what used to be called Cool Edit.

I am using Audition 1.5 to clean up recording of old 78rpm records.

The main process involves the Centre Channel Extract function
(since most surface noise is out of phase), and it works very
well, often needing nothing else to be done.

However, the resulting file has a low-level repeated burst of
phase distortion, a sort of meep ... meep ... meep, which can
be very distracting.

I've tried playing with the settings but nothing seems to help
much, likewise filtering doesn't assist as the meeps are too
wideband.

Any ideas as to what it cold be and whay I could do about it, or
is it just something I'll have to put up with? (Up with which I
will have to put).

It's certainly much better than the frying bacon that was there
before!
-- 
rgds
LAurence

...Jesus saves - but Joseph scores on the rebound
---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)

Adobe Audition

[Christopher Wright]

Does Audition work for us?
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition centre channel extract



Laurence,

I used Audition 1.5 for a long time, and liked it.  There are two things I 
can suggest.  First,make sure that the sound you are hearing is really 
part of the file
and not a problem with Audition's playback.  Create the file using the 
center channel extractor and then play it with another program such as 
Windows

Media Player.

Second, I was thinking that the center channel extractor did more than 
just combine channels, and it is possible that combining channels will do 
most of
what you want to do.  Try just combining channels and see whether it 
avoids the problem and gets you most of the way there or not.  I think 
there is an
item to do that but don't remember where it is any more, or you can 
probably do it by creating a monaural file.


I had to let Audition go  because I couldn't get it to install on a 64-bit 
system.  It was more complicated than that as I had upgraded from previous 
versions
and couldn't install one of the previous versions that was required.  I 
wonder, though, if there could be some incompatibility with Windows 7.


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 13:45:51 +0100, Laurence Taylor wrote:


This is what used to be called Cool Edit.



I am using Audition 1.5 to clean up recording of old 78rpm records.



The main process involves the Centre Channel Extract function
(since most surface noise is out of phase), and it works very
well, often needing nothing else to be done.



However, the resulting file has a low-level repeated burst of
phase distortion, a sort of meep ... meep ... meep, which can
be very distracting.



I've tried playing with the settings but nothing seems to help
much, likewise filtering doesn't assist as the meeps are too
wideband.



Any ideas as to what it cold be and whay I could do about it, or
is it just something I'll have to put up with? (Up with which I
will have to put).



It's certainly much better than the frying bacon that was there
before!
--
rgds
LAurence

...Jesus saves - but Joseph scores on the rebound
---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)

Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
here is their home page:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Best regards
Brian
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From: DJ Reese 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:17 PM 
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity 


Hi:

So where can I download the latest accessibility version of Audacity? 
Thanks!


DJ Reese

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Audacity is free and the developing still goes on, so it's still a very
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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Steve Jacobson]

Although I would not argue with the assessment of Audition, apparently Audition 
makes some of its information available through 
MSAA, or possibly UI Automation, so there is some possibility that it could be 
made more accessible with scripting.  However, I 
think there are still gaps in the accessibility.  I was a CoolEdit and Audition 
user through 1.5 and liked the program and was 
frustrated to see this change, but I thought it was worth mentioning that if 
someone needs to use Audition for some reason, there 
might be some possibilities that have not been explored because of the 
availability of other alternatives.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:49:53 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



To the best of my knowledge, Audition is not accessible with Jaws and is not 
likely to be at any time in the future.

Audacity, on the other hand, is very accessible using a screen reader as 
blind people have played a central role in its development.

Audacity is a multi-track editor and has various audio processing plug ins 
which make it possible to produce a high quality stereo output.

However, for the first time user, Audacity can be quite daunting unless you 
are prepared to read the manual and experiment.

Bob Nelson

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From: Andr‚ van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM
Subject: comparing adobe audition and audacity


 Hi all



 Another of my silly home recording questions.  This is after I have spoken
 to a friend of mine.



 What is the difference between adobe audition and  audacity?  Do they
 perform the same function.



 Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7?



 Just curious!



 Andre





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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
Even though there is a quite steep learning curve for Audacity it really has 
all you'd ever need for audio editing.
And even if it doesn't have what you want it within the program you can get 
various plugins for free that enhances the experience dramatically, and the 
whole thing is so beautifully free. smile


Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Steve Jacobson

Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 5:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

Although I would not argue with the assessment of Audition, apparently 
Audition makes some of its information available through
MSAA, or possibly UI Automation, so there is some possibility that it could 
be made more accessible with scripting.  However, I
think there are still gaps in the accessibility.  I was a CoolEdit and 
Audition user through 1.5 and liked the program and was
frustrated to see this change, but I thought it was worth mentioning that if 
someone needs to use Audition for some reason, there
might be some possibilities that have not been explored because of the 
availability of other alternatives.


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:49:53 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



To the best of my knowledge, Audition is not accessible with Jaws and is 
not

likely to be at any time in the future.



Audacity, on the other hand, is very accessible using a screen reader as
blind people have played a central role in its development.



Audacity is a multi-track editor and has various audio processing plug ins
which make it possible to produce a high quality stereo output.



However, for the first time user, Audacity can be quite daunting unless you
are prepared to read the manual and experiment.



Bob Nelson


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From: Andr‚ van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM
Subject: comparing adobe audition and audacity




Hi all



Another of my silly home recording questions.  This is after I have 
spoken

to a friend of mine.



What is the difference between adobe audition and  audacity?  Do they
perform the same function.



Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7?



Just curious!



Andre





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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[H Erraji]

I still use Cooledit version 2.00 with some scripts with some success and like 
it very much.  I am aware it has been renamed Audition.  It is a very powerful 
sound editor but there is a somewhat learning curve.

Cheers,

Hatch.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Jacobson 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:21 PM
  Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity


  Although I would not argue with the assessment of Audition, apparently 
Audition makes some of its information available through 
  MSAA, or possibly UI Automation, so there is some possibility that it could 
be made more accessible with scripting.  However, I 
  think there are still gaps in the accessibility.  I was a CoolEdit and 
Audition user through 1.5 and liked the program and was 
  frustrated to see this change, but I thought it was worth mentioning that if 
someone needs to use Audition for some reason, there 
  might be some possibilities that have not been explored because of the 
availability of other alternatives.

  Best regards,

  Steve Jacobson


  On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:49:53 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



  To the best of my knowledge, Audition is not accessible with Jaws and is not 
  likely to be at any time in the future.

  Audacity, on the other hand, is very accessible using a screen reader as 
  blind people have played a central role in its development.

  Audacity is a multi-track editor and has various audio processing plug ins 
  which make it possible to produce a high quality stereo output.

  However, for the first time user, Audacity can be quite daunting unless you 
  are prepared to read the manual and experiment.

  Bob Nelson

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  From: Andr, van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za
  To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM
  Subject: comparing adobe audition and audacity


   Hi all
  
  
  
   Another of my silly home recording questions.  This is after I have spoken
   to a friend of mine.
  
  
  
   What is the difference between adobe audition and  audacity?  Do they
   perform the same function.
  
  
  
   Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7?
  
  
  
   Just curious!
  
  
  
   Andre
  
  
  
  
  
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comparing adobe audition and audacity

[André van Deventer]

Hi all

 

Another of my silly home recording questions.  This is after I have spoken
to a friend of mine.

 

What is the difference between adobe audition and  audacity?  Do they
perform the same function.

 

Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7?

 

Just curious!

 

Andre

 

 

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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Merv Keck]

Adobe Audition has not been accessible in years. Not since like version 1.5 
or something like that way back in 2006  or before.
They talked about coming out with a new 64 bit version of Audition for years 
and I had hoped they would make it accessible or that someone would be able 
to script it but they never improved on Audition 3 which is not accessible.
When I was a high partial I thought that was the best program I ever used 
and loved the dual monitor support but since losing over 99% of my vision 
had to abandon it. 



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RE: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[André van Deventer]

Thanx

Should stick to   audacity then I think.

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Sent: 04 September 2013 06:48 PM
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Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

Adobe Audition has not been accessible in years. Not since like version 1.5
or something like that way back in 2006  or before.
They talked about coming out with a new 64 bit version of Audition for years
and I had hoped they would make it accessible or that someone would be able
to script it but they never improved on Audition 3 which is not accessible.
When I was a high partial I thought that was the best program I ever used
and loved the dual monitor support but since losing over 99% of my vision
had to abandon it. 


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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Brian Olesen]

HI,
Audacity is free and the developing still goes on, so it's still a very 
versatile project.


Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Merv Keck

Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

Adobe Audition has not been accessible in years. Not since like version 1.5
or something like that way back in 2006  or before.
They talked about coming out with a new 64 bit version of Audition for years
and I had hoped they would make it accessible or that someone would be able
to script it but they never improved on Audition 3 which is not accessible.
When I was a high partial I thought that was the best program I ever used
and loved the dual monitor support but since losing over 99% of my vision
had to abandon it.


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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[DJ Reese]

Hi:

So where can I download the latest accessibility version of Audacity? 
Thanks!

DJ Reese

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Audacity is free and the developing still goes on, so it's still a very
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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Patrick Tice]

List,

I use Audacity every week for recording Handiham audio lectures and a weekly 
podcast.  It's got a bit of a learning curve, but it works very well for me. I 
can see and do not access it with a screenreader but I know its developers do 
pay attention to accessibility.  Before I used Audacity, I had Cool Edit by 
Syntrillium software.  It was bought by Adobe and turned into Audition, which I 
thought was out of my price range.  Once I determined to learn Audacity, I 
really did get to like it. The tools I use most are noise reduction, 
normalization, automatic leveling, and the automatic trimming of silence. 
 
Best regards,


Patrick Tice
wa0...@arrl.net



 From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity
 

HI,
Audacity is free and the developing still goes on, so it's still a very 
versatile project.

Brian

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From: Merv Keck
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 6:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

Adobe Audition has not been accessible in years. Not since like version 1.5
or something like that way back in 2006  or before.
They talked about coming out with a new 64 bit version of Audition for years
and I had hoped they would make it accessible or that someone would be able
to script it but they never improved on Audition 3 which is not accessible.
When I was a high partial I thought that was the best program I ever used
and loved the dual monitor support but since losing over 99% of my vision
had to abandon it.


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Re: comparing adobe audition and audacity

[Robert Nelson]

To the best of my knowledge, Audition is not accessible with Jaws and is not 
likely to be at any time in the future.


Audacity, on the other hand, is very accessible using a screen reader as 
blind people have played a central role in its development.


Audacity is a multi-track editor and has various audio processing plug ins 
which make it possible to produce a high quality stereo output.


However, for the first time user, Audacity can be quite daunting unless you 
are prepared to read the manual and experiment.


Bob Nelson

- Original Message - 
From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM
Subject: comparing adobe audition and audacity



Hi all



Another of my silly home recording questions.  This is after I have spoken
to a friend of mine.



What is the difference between adobe audition and  audacity?  Do they
perform the same function.



Is adobe audition also accessible with Jaws 14 on windows 7?



Just curious!



Andre





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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Brian Olesen]

Hi Donald,
You're perfectly right.
The problem is.
We kno the songs in their original shape, and from the beginning it was 
meant to sound that way.

When we remove noise we make the sound too steril for the time being.
It's like when a photographer wants  to share a special moment an evening in 
a pop by the river. Such a picture needs to be a little bit dull. If you 
turn on the cleaning lights then you won't get the right expression of the 
whole feeling in the situation.
When the viewer was there they could see no dust or bad looking furniture, 
but they could feel a good intence carma in the room, which would disappear 
if all the lights are turned on.


The same with old recordings. Then things will come up front that you didn't 
notice before, and don't want to notice at all in that particular musical 
experience.
Like a bad reverb for instance, which you couldn't hear before because of 
the high noise floor.


But it's a totolly other storry with a really noisy old audio book. Here it 
would be wonderful to clear up the vocal, so the words are easier to 
understand.


Best regards
Brian


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Donald L. Roberts

Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 1:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

I do not claim to be knowledgeable regarding noise reduction.  However,
most of the time I have dealt with old recordings which have been
subjected to noise reduction software, there are almost no highs
whatsoever.  I am thinking of a lot of big band and vocal recordings
made on 78s during the 30s and 40s, and yes I know that the modulating
frequencies were seldom more than 5000 cycles.  But I have heard a
number of those recordings on the original vinyl and later heard those
same recordings after going through noise reduction procedures, and the
resulting sound is so bland that I would much prefer the originals,
complete with hiss and a few pops.

As stated earlier, I haven't played with this stuff much, so I am not
bashing.  I am just suggesting that good sound is an extremely
subjective thing.

Don Roberts


On 2/9/2013 12:25 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
the noise remover in Audacity is far better.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Curtis Delzer
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


auto noise capture in sound forge is great, and
then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults
to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB.
You can totally get rid of cassette noise, for
example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than
that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy
sounds which are not desirable.



At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote:

In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the
Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes,
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't
feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think
you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on
the
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However,
since March of 22011 it has been
too difficult for nme to use it since it is
not very speech friendly. I kept
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
download Reaper today and give it a try.

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From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very
much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too
no?

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like
to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got
totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know

Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Curtis Delzer]

auto noise capture in sound forge is great, and 
then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults 
to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB.
You can totally get rid of cassette noise, for 
example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than 
that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy 
sounds which are not desirable.




At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote:
In case this matters, I also really liked 
Audition's Noise Reduction.  However, I feel as 
though the Sound Forge Noise reduction
is just as good but one needs to play with it 
some.  For example, the Sound Forge noise 
reduction plug-in as four different modes,
and certain modes work better with certain kinds 
of content.  I didn't feel I had to work as hard 
at Audition's noise reduction to
get good results, but if you are forced away 
from Audition, I think you can do all right with 
the Sound Forge noise reduction

plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, 
since March of 22011 it has been
too difficult for nme to use it since it is 
not very speech friendly. I kept

waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
the noise remover in Audacity is far better.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Curtis Delzer

Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


auto noise capture in sound forge is great, and
then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults
to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB.
You can totally get rid of cassette noise, for
example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than
that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy
sounds which are not desirable.



At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote:
In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction. 
However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the Sound 
Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes,
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't feel 
I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can 
do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction

plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However,
since March of 22011 it has been
too difficult for nme to use it since it is
not very speech friendly. I kept
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very 
much.

Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to 
edit,

and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got 
totally

worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I 
wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut 
keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using 
the

virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some 
particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were 
incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the 
latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say 
the

most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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 I
  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen 
 reader.

I
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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Donald L. Roberts]

I do not claim to be knowledgeable regarding noise reduction.  However, 
most of the time I have dealt with old recordings which have been 
subjected to noise reduction software, there are almost no highs 
whatsoever.  I am thinking of a lot of big band and vocal recordings 
made on 78s during the 30s and 40s, and yes I know that the modulating 
frequencies were seldom more than 5000 cycles.  But I have heard a 
number of those recordings on the original vinyl and later heard those 
same recordings after going through noise reduction procedures, and the 
resulting sound is so bland that I would much prefer the originals, 
complete with hiss and a few pops.


As stated earlier, I haven't played with this stuff much, so I am not 
bashing.  I am just suggesting that good sound is an extremely 
subjective thing.


Don Roberts


On 2/9/2013 12:25 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
the noise remover in Audacity is far better.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Curtis Delzer
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


auto noise capture in sound forge is great, and
then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults
to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB.
You can totally get rid of cassette noise, for
example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than
that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy
sounds which are not desirable.



At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote:

In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the
Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes,
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't
feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think
you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on
the
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However,
since March of 22011 it has been
too difficult for nme to use it since it is
not very speech friendly. I kept
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very
much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too
no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like
to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got
totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I
wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any
shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them
using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some
particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were
incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the
latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I
say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to
all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Odesláno: 2. prosince 2012 16:21
  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


  Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition.
However,  I
  was wondering how

Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Steve Jacobson]

Don,

There are at least two things that can happen with noise reduction.  First, 
some noise reduction algorithms do cause a loss of high frequencies.  The noise 
reduction in Sound Forge actually has an option to 
add highs back, but one could do the same with an equalizer.  However, hiss, 
itself, can make a recording sound brighter.  I have heard examples where the 
sound spectrum with and without hiss was made 
the same, and the one with hiss sounded brighter.  As you say, sound is very 
subjective in some ways, but the ear can be fooled as well.  More than once I 
have thought I had found a tremendous set of 
parameters to get rid of noise on a recording, only to find there were 
artifacts of noise reduction that were very apparent to me when I listened the 
next day.  It is a challenge.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
to  
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:43:25 -0800, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

I do not claim to be knowledgeable regarding noise reduction.  However, 
most of the time I have dealt with old recordings which have been 
subjected to noise reduction software, there are almost no highs 
whatsoever.  I am thinking of a lot of big band and vocal recordings 
made on 78s during the 30s and 40s, and yes I know that the modulating 
frequencies were seldom more than 5000 cycles.  But I have heard a 
number of those recordings on the original vinyl and later heard those 
same recordings after going through noise reduction procedures, and the 
resulting sound is so bland that I would much prefer the originals, 
complete with hiss and a few pops.

As stated earlier, I haven't played with this stuff much, so I am not 
bashing.  I am just suggesting that good sound is an extremely 
subjective thing.

Don Roberts


On 2/9/2013 12:25 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
 Hi,
 the noise remover in Audacity is far better.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Curtis Delzer
 Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 5:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


 auto noise capture in sound forge is great, and
 then the trick is to get it to lower the defaults
 to more than one of the saved configurations to more than 12.5 DB.
 You can totally get rid of cassette noise, for
 example, at about -40 DB or so, any more than
 that and it starts to make the typical NR swishy
 sounds which are not desirable.



 At 08:19 AM 12/04/12, you wrote:
 In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
 However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction
 is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the
 Sound Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes,
 and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't
 feel I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to
 get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think
 you can do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction
 plug-in if you experiment with settings..

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson

 On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

 Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on
 the
 PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
 Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However,
 since March of 22011 it has been
 too difficult for nme to use it since it is
 not very speech friendly. I kept
 waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
 download Reaper today and give it a try.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hamit Campos
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
 I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very
 much.
 Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too
 no?

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Samuel
 Wilkins
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

 The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
 multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like
 to edit,
 and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
 Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

 Hi Sam,

 My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
 past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got
 totally
 worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
 their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I
 wasn't
 confortable with that as many objects were placed without any
 shortcut keys
 on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them
 using the
 virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has

RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Rishi D Mack]

If you're gana perchis adobe audition, I think your best bet will be with
sonar if you want multitrack. And oh yeh. Reaper is good too. I also think
there's a way to use soney plugins with sonar. I use  sonar 8.5 everyday at
work. Maby  I can check and see. It is accessabel with caketalking, or j
scripts. Which ever one you want. I use cake talking for sonar. Though, I'm
looking to see If we can be able to use other vsts with  cake talking.


i

-Original Message-
From: Samuel Wilkins [mailto:clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:54 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Thank you Steve for that.  I think then it looks like Audition is more
trouble than its worth, and it may be ebst trying out the Sound Forge and
Reeper demos.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
Sent: 04 December 2012 16:19
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction 
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the Sound
Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, 
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't feel
I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to 
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can
do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction 
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the 
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe 
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has
been 
too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I
kept 
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to 
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to
edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.


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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

Thank you Rishi.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rishi D
Mack
Sent: 07 December 2012 10:59
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

If you're gana perchis adobe audition, I think your best bet will be with
sonar if you want multitrack. And oh yeh. Reaper is good too. I also think
there's a way to use soney plugins with sonar. I use  sonar 8.5 everyday at
work. Maby  I can check and see. It is accessabel with caketalking, or j
scripts. Which ever one you want. I use cake talking for sonar. Though, I'm
looking to see If we can be able to use other vsts with  cake talking.


i

-Original Message-
From: Samuel Wilkins [mailto:clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:54 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Thank you Steve for that.  I think then it looks like Audition is more
trouble than its worth, and it may be ebst trying out the Sound Forge and
Reeper demos.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
Sent: 04 December 2012 16:19
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction 
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the Sound
Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, 
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't feel
I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to 
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can
do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction 
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the 
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe 
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has
been 
too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I
kept 
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to 
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to
edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Odesláno: 2. prosince 2012 16:21
  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


  Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition.  However, I
  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.


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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

I will try a demo of Reeper and see if it works.  However, I was wondering
if Sound Forge would allow me to add my own impulse response files o the
acoustic mirror, as I am also considering that.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim
cumings
Sent: 04 December 2012 01:37
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Samuel why don't you try reaper with re-access. It is a very accessible 
multitrack recorder and only costs $60.

- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


 Hello Steve, the reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because
 of its multitrack capabilities, and also because it has convolution reverb
 capabilities.  I know that Sound Forge has a convolution plug-in called 
 the
 Acoustic Mirror, I do not know whether I could import my own impulse
 response files into this.  Thank you.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
 Jacobson
 Sent: 02 December 2012 19:32
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

 Samyuel,

 I am a Window-Eyes user and I used Adobe Audition in its early days and
 CoolEdit before then which Adobe purchased.  The current version of 
 Audition
 conveys information to screen readers using other
 methods that are not evident from the screen.  Mostly, I think MSAA is 
 used,
 although there could be some UI Automation.  What this means is that if 
 you
 just try to explore the screens with the mouse pointer,
 you are going to notice that some things that others see on the screen are
 just not there.  GW Micro does have an Audition app that gets a lot of the
 information you need.  When I tried that some time ago, it
 worked pretty well, but there were some gaps when dealing with certain
 plug-ins.  I had switched to Sound Forge before these capabilities became
 available, though, so I didn't buy a full Audition version, and I
 have not tried it for a while.

 I would suggest that you ask on the GW-Info list, though, and I would also
 see if you can get a demo version and plan on really working the heck out 
 of
 it for thirty days or so.  I don't know if you can download
 a demo version or not.

 If you do try this, I for one would be very, very interested to hear what
 you find out.  Also, if there are specific problems, Aaron Smith of GW 
 Micro
 might be willing to see if something can be done with the app.
 While I am not unhappy with Sound Forge, I would consider moving back to
 Audition if it works reasonably.

 Good luck.

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson

 On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:21:31 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

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was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader. 
I
am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.


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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Merv Keck]

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the 
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe 
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has been 
too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I kept 
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to 
download Reaper today and give it a try.


-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos

Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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 Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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 was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Hamit Campos]

I see.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 8:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has been
too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I kept
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition I used Audition professionally
for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.


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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Steve Jacobson]

In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.  However, 
I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction 
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the Sound 
Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, 
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't feel I 
had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to 
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can do 
all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction 
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the 
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe 
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has been 
too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I kept 
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to 
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.


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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

Thank you Steve for that.  I think then it looks like Audition is more
trouble than its worth, and it may be ebst trying out the Sound Forge and
Reeper demos.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
Sent: 04 December 2012 16:19
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

In case this matters, I also really liked Audition's Noise Reduction.
However, I feel as though the Sound Forge Noise reduction 
is just as good but one needs to play with it some.  For example, the Sound
Forge noise reduction plug-in as four different modes, 
and certain modes work better with certain kinds of content.  I didn't feel
I had to work as hard at Audition's noise reduction to 
get good results, but if you are forced away from Audition, I think you can
do all right with the Sound Forge noise reduction 
plug-in if you experiment with settings..

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:27:01 -0500, Merv Keck wrote:

Adobe Audition still has the best noise reduction I have ever seen on the 
PC. Before losing most of my vision I never used anything else but Adobe 
Audition 3 for multitrack editing. However, since March of 22011 it has
been 
too difficult for nme to use it since it is not very speech friendly. I
kept 
waiting for a new version to come out but it never did. I'm going to 
download Reaper today and give it a try.

-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition
I used Audition professionally for a long time and still miss it very much.
Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to
edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

Hello Steve, the reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because
of its multitrack capabilities, and also because it has convolution reverb
capabilities.  I know that Sound Forge has a convolution plug-in called the
Acoustic Mirror, I do not know whether I could import my own impulse
response files into this.  Thank you.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
Sent: 02 December 2012 19:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Samyuel,

I am a Window-Eyes user and I used Adobe Audition in its early days and
CoolEdit before then which Adobe purchased.  The current version of Audition
conveys information to screen readers using other 
methods that are not evident from the screen.  Mostly, I think MSAA is used,
although there could be some UI Automation.  What this means is that if you
just try to explore the screens with the mouse pointer, 
you are going to notice that some things that others see on the screen are
just not there.  GW Micro does have an Audition app that gets a lot of the
information you need.  When I tried that some time ago, it 
worked pretty well, but there were some gaps when dealing with certain
plug-ins.  I had switched to Sound Forge before these capabilities became
available, though, so I didn't buy a full Audition version, and I 
have not tried it for a while.

I would suggest that you ask on the GW-Info list, though, and I would also
see if you can get a demo version and plan on really working the heck out of
it for thirty days or so.  I don't know if you can download 
a demo version or not.

If you do try this, I for one would be very, very interested to hear what
you find out.  Also, if there are specific problems, Aaron Smith of GW Micro
might be willing to see if something can be done with the app.  
While I am not unhappy with Sound Forge, I would consider moving back to
Audition if it works reasonably.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:21:31 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

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was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.  I
am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.  


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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[dan thompson]

I would also agree that Soundforge is the most friendly.  I also have
Cooledit and Adobe Audition 2.1. Bu t I use Soundforge more.


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Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:44 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


  Hello everyone, I am considering migrating to Adobe Audition.  However, I
  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[dan thompson]

I would also agree that Soundforge is the most friendly.  I also have
Cooledit and Adobe Audition 2.1. Bu t I use Soundforge more.


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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.  

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.  


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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[tim cumings]

Samuel why don't you try reaper with re-access. It is a very accessible 
multitrack recorder and only costs $60.


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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition



Hello Steve, the reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because
of its multitrack capabilities, and also because it has convolution reverb
capabilities.  I know that Sound Forge has a convolution plug-in called 
the

Acoustic Mirror, I do not know whether I could import my own impulse
response files into this.  Thank you.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
Sent: 02 December 2012 19:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Samyuel,

I am a Window-Eyes user and I used Adobe Audition in its early days and
CoolEdit before then which Adobe purchased.  The current version of 
Audition

conveys information to screen readers using other
methods that are not evident from the screen.  Mostly, I think MSAA is 
used,
although there could be some UI Automation.  What this means is that if 
you

just try to explore the screens with the mouse pointer,
you are going to notice that some things that others see on the screen are
just not there.  GW Micro does have an Audition app that gets a lot of the
information you need.  When I tried that some time ago, it
worked pretty well, but there were some gaps when dealing with certain
plug-ins.  I had switched to Sound Forge before these capabilities became
available, though, so I didn't buy a full Audition version, and I
have not tried it for a while.

I would suggest that you ask on the GW-Info list, though, and I would also
see if you can get a demo version and plan on really working the heck out 
of

it for thirty days or so.  I don't know if you can download
a demo version or not.

If you do try this, I for one would be very, very interested to hear what
you find out.  Also, if there are specific problems, Aaron Smith of GW 
Micro

might be willing to see if something can be done with the app.
While I am not unhappy with Sound Forge, I would consider moving back to
Audition if it works reasonably.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Hamit Campos]

Actually I should care because I believe this does surround sound too no?

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Wilkins
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

The reason I am interested in using Adobe Audition is because of its
multitrack editing capabilities, as I have some tracks I would like to edit,
and I would like to be able to do this at home with Window-Eyes.  

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vítek
Sent: 02 December 2012 18:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the
past when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally
worse than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed
their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't
confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys
on the screen beyond the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the
virtual mouse and crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the
standard menu from what I remember and maybe they improved some particular
things of that I can't tell but generally the older version were incredible
having most of things in menu reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest
versions. But maybe somebody knowing more of that will chime in. I say the
most blind-friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the
universal way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all
screen readers regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.
I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.  


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Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Vítek]

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the past 
when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally worse 
than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know they changed their label 
from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. I wasn't confortable with 
that as many objects were placed without any shortcut keys on the screen beyond 
the menu so OK it was possible to grab them using the virtual mouse and 
crowling around but it was a real pain. It has the standard menu from what I 
remember and maybe they improved some particular things of that I can't tell 
but generally the older version were incredible having most of things in menu 
reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest versions. But maybe somebody 
knowing more of that will chime in. I say the most blind-friendly one is Sound 
Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the universal 
way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all screen readers 
regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes etc.



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  Odesláno: 2. prosince 2012 16:21
  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.  I
  am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.  


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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Steve Jacobson]

Samyuel,

I am a Window-Eyes user and I used Adobe Audition in its early days and 
CoolEdit before then which Adobe purchased.  The current version of Audition 
conveys information to screen readers using other 
methods that are not evident from the screen.  Mostly, I think MSAA is used, 
although there could be some UI Automation.  What this means is that if you 
just try to explore the screens with the mouse pointer, 
you are going to notice that some things that others see on the screen are just 
not there.  GW Micro does have an Audition app that gets a lot of the 
information you need.  When I tried that some time ago, it 
worked pretty well, but there were some gaps when dealing with certain 
plug-ins.  I had switched to Sound Forge before these capabilities became 
available, though, so I didn't buy a full Audition version, and I 
have not tried it for a while.

I would suggest that you ask on the GW-Info list, though, and I would also see 
if you can get a demo version and plan on really working the heck out of it for 
thirty days or so.  I don't know if you can download 
a demo version or not.

If you do try this, I for one would be very, very interested to hear what you 
find out.  Also, if there are specific problems, Aaron Smith of GW Micro might 
be willing to see if something can be done with the app.  
While I am not unhappy with Sound Forge, I would consider moving back to 
Audition if it works reasonably.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:21:31 -, Samuel Wilkins wrote:

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was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.  I
am using Window-Eyes as my reader.  Thank you.  


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Re: Accessibility of Adobe Audition

[Steve Jacobson]

Your cautions are legitimate, but there were some changes that were intended to 
help screen readers between Adobe audition 2 and 3.  I have not experimented 
enough to know where things are now, but if 
someone has a reason to want to use Audition, I really think it is worth trying 
the demo to see where things are now.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:32:23 +0100, Vítek  wrote:

Hi Sam,

My view might be a little subjective but from what I've tried out in the past 
when I got myself Adobe Audition just to take a look at it got totally worse 
than e.g. 2.1 version of Adobe Audition when you know 
they changed their label from Cool Edit which was the predecessor of that one. 
I wasn't confortable with that as many objects were placed without any shortcut 
keys on the screen beyond the menu so OK it 
was possible to grab them using the virtual mouse and crowling around but it 
was a real pain. It has the standard menu from what I remember and maybe they 
improved some particular things of that I can't tell 
but generally the older version were incredible having most of things in menu 
reachable via the keyboard unlike the latest versions. But maybe somebody 
knowing more of that will chime in. I say the most blind-
friendly one is Sound Forge:).

For the record I don't think it'll be better with Window Eyes as the universal 
way of the layout and localizing the object is identical to all screen readers 
regardless of whether it's NVDA Jaws or Window Eyes 
etc.



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  Predmet: Accessibility of Adobe Audition


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  was wondering how accessible the latest version is with a screen reader.  I
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Re: Adobe Audition

[stewart ross]

i am running jaws 11, windows xp
what vertion of audition would u suggest

from stewart
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Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition


I liked older versions of Audition, but I would try a demo first before 
deciding.  They changed how they display data and it is a little hit or 
miss with any

screen reader unless it has gotten better.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0400, Christopher Wright wrote:

For multitrack editing, I highly recommend Audacity. I would try that 
first

if I were you.





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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: Adobe Audition



Hello everyone, I am considering purchasing Adobe Audition, as I may 
need

to
do some audio multitrack editing soon.  However, I was wondering how 
much

it
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Re: Adobe Audition

[Steve Jacobson]

I liked older versions of Audition, but I would try a demo first before 
deciding.  They changed how they display data and it is a little hit or miss 
with any 
screen reader unless it has gotten better.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0400, Christopher Wright wrote:

For multitrack editing, I highly recommend Audacity. I would try that first 
if I were you.



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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: Adobe Audition


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Re: Adobe Audition

[Merv Keck]

The last time I used Adobe Audition was Adobe Audition 3.  It was the best 
audio production software I ever used under $1000 but sadly it is not the 
most speech friendly.  I still think it's one of the best tools for home 
production as far as noise reduction but I don't know anyone who has been 
able to make it play nice with the leading screen readers.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson

Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 1:06 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition

I liked older versions of Audition, but I would try a demo first before 
deciding.  They changed how they display data and it is a little hit or miss 
with any

screen reader unless it has gotten better.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0400, Christopher Wright wrote:


For multitrack editing, I highly recommend Audacity. I would try that first
if I were you.





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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: Adobe Audition




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Re: Adobe Audition

[Christopher Wright]

Hi Steve and Samuel,
Downoading a demo might be difficult. On a couple of occasions, I attempted 
to download a demo of audition. That process, in my opinion, is more steps 
than necessary.




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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition


The last time I used Adobe Audition was Adobe Audition 3.  It was the best 
audio production software I ever used under $1000 but sadly it is not the 
most speech friendly.  I still think it's one of the best tools for home 
production as far as noise reduction but I don't know anyone who has been 
able to make it play nice with the leading screen readers.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson

Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 1:06 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition

I liked older versions of Audition, but I would try a demo first before 
deciding.  They changed how they display data and it is a little hit or 
miss with any

screen reader unless it has gotten better.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0400, Christopher Wright wrote:

For multitrack editing, I highly recommend Audacity. I would try that 
first

if I were you.





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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: Adobe Audition



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need

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Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

Hello everyone, I am considering purchasing Adobe Audition, as I may need to
do some audio multitrack editing soon.  However, I was wondering how much it
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Re: Adobe Audition

[Christopher Wright]

For multitrack editing, I highly recommend Audacity. I would try that first 
if I were you.




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From: Samuel Wilkins clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:29 PM
Subject: Adobe Audition


Hello everyone, I am considering purchasing Adobe Audition, as I may need 
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it

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RE: Adobe Audition

[Samuel Wilkins]

Hello Christopher, I may be taking a course at a radio station in a few
months, and they will expect me to use Adobe audition, and since there is an
app available for Window-Eyes, I thought I would ask other people's opinions
on the accessibility of it with Window-Eyes before I take the plunge.  

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For multitrack editing, I highly recommend Audacity. I would try that first 
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Help with Adobe Audition 1.5.

[Mike Mote]

Hi folks!  I need to use Adobe Audition version 1.5 for a future project.  Does 
anyone have scripts or know where I could possibly find some for the program?  
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Adobe Audition

[Brian Blair]

My employer has Adobe Audition 1.0 and I've heard that 1.5 fixes some 
problems in 1.0.  However, I've heard that later versions are pretty 
inaccessible with speech.  Does anyone here have experience with the latest 
version of Adobe Audition? I've seen some JFW scripts for Audition 1.0 but I 
find Soundforge much easier to use.  However, since our network of radio 
stations use Audition it's helpful to be able to use it, and I'd like to see 
us upgrade to a later version.


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Re: Adobe Audition

[Steve Pattison]

Hi Brian,

This may not be a practical solution but if you're familiar with
Window-Eyes or perhaps want to try a demonstration copy of Window-Eyes
there are Window-Eyes scripts for Adobe Audition 3 available at

https://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1219

Information about the scripts are below:

This script provides speech enhancements to Adobe Audition 3 when
navigating around the Audition interface (for example, when using
Alt-Page Up and Alt-Page Down to focus the various panes). For a list of
all keyboard shortcuts, refer to the Adobe Audition Help menu.

Regards Steve.

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:59:34 -0500
Brian Blair brianbl...@polarblairs.org wrote:

My employer has Adobe Audition 1.0 and I've heard that 1.5 fixes some 
problems in 1.0.  However, I've heard that later versions are pretty 
inaccessible with speech.  Does anyone here have experience with the latest 
version of Adobe Audition? I've seen some JFW scripts for Audition 1.0 but I 
find Soundforge much easier to use.  However, since our network of radio 
stations use Audition it's helpful to be able to use it, and I'd like to see 
us upgrade to a later version.

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Adobe Audition 3.0

[Sky Taylor]

Hello list, I have a question about Adobe Audition 3.0. In previus version of 
audition 1.5, there was a thing in multi-track mode called allow multiple 
takes. Where do I find that option in Audition 3.0? I looked under the clip 
menu and it was  not under the menu. All I had was clip envelope and properties 
and split and rejoin split. I am wanting to become a recording engineer when I 
grow up so I need to know where the multiple takes is in the audition 3.0 menu 
is as I was working on a project on Friday and I received lots of sluggishness 
as it was taking over the memory, even though I have lots of memory in my 
computer. My comp runs Vista 32 bit with JAWS and Window-Eyes and Adobe 
Audition 3.0 pluss I also have Audacity.
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Re: Adobe Audition 3.0

[Sky Taylor]

Oh yes and my computer has 3.00 gb of ram
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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: Adobe Audition 3.0


Hello list, I have a question about Adobe Audition 3.0. In previus version 
of audition 1.5, there was a thing in multi-track mode called allow 
multiple takes. Where do I find that option in Audition 3.0? I looked 
under the clip menu and it was  not under the menu. All I had was clip 
envelope and properties and split and rejoin split. I am wanting to become 
a recording engineer when I grow up so I need to know where the multiple 
takes is in the audition 3.0 menu is as I was working on a project on 
Friday and I received lots of sluggishness as it was taking over the 
memory, even though I have lots of memory in my computer. My comp runs 
Vista 32 bit with JAWS and Window-Eyes and Adobe Audition 3.0 pluss I also 
have Audacity.

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Adobe Audition

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say Goldwave or 
Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at a significant 
discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while doing that given that I 
have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and Total Recorder already and 
combined these packages do an excellent job for audio, I also use Amadeus Pro 
extensively on my Mac so i in short the question is if I purchase Adobe 
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Re: Adobe Audition

[tim cumings]

Hi, Dane. I don't think adobe edition is that accessible. On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 
19:27:26 
+1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:


Hi!

Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say Goldwave 
or 
Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at a significant 
discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while doing that given that I 
have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and Total Recorder already and 
combined these packages do an excellent job for audio, I also use Amadeus Pro 
extensively on my Mac so i in short the question is if I purchase Adobe 
Audition will it give me anything that I don't already have?



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Re: Adobe Audition

[dan thompson]

Hi Dane, I use Soundforge, Adobe Audition 1.5 and Sornar eight with 
caketalking.  I use Sornar because I can move between the tracks using 
caketalking and hear the click as I pass each one.


Adobe Audition does have multi tracking but it is not very accessible for a 
screenreader user.  You can use the mouse routing keys in a screenreader to 
reach the various tracks.  However, it is not that easy and one must not 
loose concentration about there they are currently working.  I like Adobe 
Audition's sound efects.


I like soundforge for the easy cuing feature and much more.

I( have been using some version of these programs fro around 13 years at a 
school and in my home.  So in short, Adobe has some good features but most 
not that accessible.


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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Adobe Audition



Hi!

Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say 
Goldwave or Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at a 
significant discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while doing 
that given that I have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and Total 
Recorder already and combined these packages do an excellent job for 
audio, I also use Amadeus Pro extensively on my Mac so i in short the 
question is if I purchase Adobe Audition will it give me anything that I 
don't already have?




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Re: Adobe Audition

[RicksPlace]

Do you have multi-track recording? I have only used GoldWave a very little 
to do some recording but understood that  Audacity was a multi-track 
recorder while GoldWave is not a multi-track recorder - I am not sure about 
the other psoftware packages.

Rick USA
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To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:27 AM
Subject: Adobe Audition



Hi!

Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say 
Goldwave or Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at a 
significant discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while doing 
that given that I have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and Total 
Recorder already and combined these packages do an excellent job for 
audio, I also use Amadeus Pro extensively on my Mac so i in short the 
question is if I purchase Adobe Audition will it give me anything that I 
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Re: Adobe Audition

[G. McFarlane]

Certainly Adobe Audition version 3 isn't accessible with Jaws.
Gordon McFarlane

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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:23 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition

Hi, Dane. I don't think adobe edition is that accessible. On Wed, 1 Sep 
2010 19:27:26

+1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:



Hi!

Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say 
Goldwave or

Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at a significant
discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while doing that given 
that I

have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and Total Recorder already and
combined these packages do an excellent job for audio, I also use Amadeus 
Pro

extensively on my Mac so i in short the question is if I purchase Adobe
Audition will it give me anything that I don't already have?



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Re: Adobe Audition

[Dane Trethowan]

Thanks for this as its given me food for thought, I didn't know Adobe Audition 
was a multi track editor and it would be nice to have multi track editing 
facilities on the Windows machine as I do on the Mac, I suppose the next thing 
to do is to download the trial and have a look, do you use Adobe Audition with 
JAWS or Window-Eyes?


On 01/09/2010, at 8:36 PM, dan thompson wrote:

 Hi Dane, I use Soundforge, Adobe Audition 1.5 and Sornar eight with 
 caketalking.  I use Sornar because I can move between the tracks using 
 caketalking and hear the click as I pass each one.
 
 Adobe Audition does have multi tracking but it is not very accessible for a 
 screenreader user.  You can use the mouse routing keys in a screenreader to 
 reach the various tracks.  However, it is not that easy and one must not 
 loose concentration about there they are currently working.  I like Adobe 
 Audition's sound efects.
 
 I like soundforge for the easy cuing feature and much more.
 
 I( have been using some version of these programs fro around 13 years at a 
 school and in my home.  So in short, Adobe has some good features but most 
 not that accessible.
 
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:27 AM
 Subject: Adobe Audition
 
 
 Hi!
 
 Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say Goldwave 
 or Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at a 
 significant discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while doing that 
 given that I have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and Total Recorder 
 already and combined these packages do an excellent job for audio, I also 
 use Amadeus Pro extensively on my Mac so i in short the question is if I 
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Re: Adobe Audition

[G. McFarlane]

Hi again
The last Audition to be accessible to Jaws was Ver 1.5. If you can get this 
then you should be able to access the multitrack options. It does need 
particular jaws scripts though and they may only work with earlier versions 
of Jaws and only up to Windows XP. I haven't tried this in Windows 7 - 
except that it hangs up Windows 7 64 bit - it might just work in 32 bit but 
I haven't tried.

Gordon McFarlane

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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:43 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition

Thanks for this as its given me food for thought, I didn't know Adobe 
Audition was a multi track editor and it would be nice to have multi track 
editing facilities on the Windows machine as I do on the Mac, I suppose 
the next thing to do is to download the trial and have a look, do you use 
Adobe Audition with JAWS or Window-Eyes?



On 01/09/2010, at 8:36 PM, dan thompson wrote:

Hi Dane, I use Soundforge, Adobe Audition 1.5 and Sornar eight with 
caketalking.  I use Sornar because I can move between the tracks using 
caketalking and hear the click as I pass each one.


Adobe Audition does have multi tracking but it is not very accessible for 
a screenreader user.  You can use the mouse routing keys in a 
screenreader to reach the various tracks.  However, it is not that easy 
and one must not loose concentration about there they are currently 
working.  I like Adobe Audition's sound efects.


I like soundforge for the easy cuing feature and much more.

I( have been using some version of these programs fro around 13 years at 
a school and in my home.  So in short, Adobe has some good features but 
most not that accessible.


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grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Adobe Audition



Hi!

Does anyone on list use this and how do you find it compared to say 
Goldwave or Sound Forge.  I'm in a position to purchase this software at 
a significant discount but I'm wondering if its even worth my while 
doing that given that I have Goldwave, Sound Forge Audio Studio 10 and 
Total Recorder already and combined these packages do an excellent job 
for audio, I also use Amadeus Pro extensively on my Mac so i in short 
the question is if I purchase Adobe Audition will it give me anything 
that I don't already have?




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adobe audition scripts

[rishi d mack]

hi guys, is there any adobe audition 1.5 scripts out there? if any of you guys 
have it, can you help me by send it to me?
I'd like that verry much thanks
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adobe audition

[joe bollard]

hello friends, are there any scripts for adobe audition  is it easy to 
operate, i did have a reply from someone on this list who is using it, but 
would like to know more, my reason for asking is that i am currently working 
with a radio station here in ireland  and they use adobe audition, they suggest 
that i do the same, so any help will really be appreciated regards from 
ireland, joe.,
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Re: adobe audition

[Steve Pattison]

Hi Joe,

In your message you left out one very important detail!  You forgot to
tel us what screen reader you want these scripts for (smile).  There are
Window-eyes scripts for Adobe Audition 3 available from

https://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1219

I haven't tried Adobe Audition so I don't know how well these scripts
work.  I hope this helps.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:17:46 -
joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote:
hello friends, are there any scripts for adobe audition  is it easy to
operate, i did have a reply from someone on this list who is using it,
but would like to know more, my reason for asking is that i am currently
working with a radio station here in ireland  and they use adobe
audition, they suggest that i do the same, so any help will really be
appreciated.

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Re: adobe audition

[david]

   when i use them my adobe crahses and after three atempts i gave up
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: adobe audition



Hi Joe,

In your message you left out one very important detail!  You forgot to
tel us what screen reader you want these scripts for (smile).  There are
Window-eyes scripts for Adobe Audition 3 available from

https://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1219

I haven't tried Adobe Audition so I don't know how well these scripts
work.  I hope this helps.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:17:46 -
joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote:
hello friends, are there any scripts for adobe audition  is it easy to
operate, i did have a reply from someone on this list who is using it,
but would like to know more, my reason for asking is that i am currently
working with a radio station here in ireland  and they use adobe
audition, they suggest that i do the same, so any help will really be
appreciated.

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adobe audition

[joe bollard]

thanks steve, of course, i forgot to give the most important details, i am 
currently upgrading my desktop to windows xp, so it sounds as though i won't be 
able to get scritps for adobe audition, i use jaws seven also, am i banging my 
head against the wall here? should i forget all about it?regards, joe.
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Re: adobe audition

[Steve Pattison]

Hi Joe,

I don't know if there are JAWS scripts for Adobe Audition.  I'll leve
that question for the JAWS users to answer.

Regards Steve.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:31 -
joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote:
thanks steve, of course, i forgot to give the most important details, i
am currently upgrading my desktop to windows xp, so it sounds as though
i won't be able to get scritps for adobe audition, i use jaws seven also,
am i banging my head against the wall here? should i forget all about
it?

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Re: adobe audition

[robert Doc Wright]

I believe the old scripts for bool edit may work. Unless Adobe recently made 
major changes since they bought cool edit.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144569/JFWCoolpro1.0beta4.exe

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Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: adobe audition



Hi Joe,

I don't know if there are JAWS scripts for Adobe Audition.  I'll leve
that question for the JAWS users to answer.

Regards Steve.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:46:31 -
joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote:
thanks steve, of course, i forgot to give the most important details, i
am currently upgrading my desktop to windows xp, so it sounds as though
i won't be able to get scritps for adobe audition, i use jaws seven also,
am i banging my head against the wall here? should i forget all about
it?

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Re: adobe audition

[David Tanner]

Do you or anyone else know whether there are Audition 3 scripts for Jaws?



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From: Steve Pattison s...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: adobe audition



Hi Joe,

In your message you left out one very important detail!  You forgot to
tel us what screen reader you want these scripts for (smile).  There are
Window-eyes scripts for Adobe Audition 3 available from

https://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1219

I haven't tried Adobe Audition so I don't know how well these scripts
work.  I hope this helps.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:17:46 -
joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net wrote:
hello friends, are there any scripts for adobe audition  is it easy to
operate, i did have a reply from someone on this list who is using it,
but would like to know more, my reason for asking is that i am currently
working with a radio station here in ireland  and they use adobe
audition, they suggest that i do the same, so any help will really be
appreciated.

Regards Steve
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adobe audition 1.5 jaws scrips problem

[dan thompson]

Hi All,
I tried installing the jaws scrips for audition 1.5 using jaws 10.
this is what I did and now have problems opening adobe audition because I 
tried switching to miulti-track mode once.


1.
copied all the files inside the jfwaudition1.0beta5.zip file to my  JFW 
settings,  enu directory .


2.  I was told that I would need to open both audition.jss and audtips.jss 
separately in JFW script


manager and press control+s to re-compile them.

I did that with the  audition.jss  file.  But I could not find the 
audtips.jss  file to recompile it.


3.  Opened audobe audition and everything worked.  Until, I tried pressing 
f12 to switch to multi-track view.  But it will work with window-eyes.  So 
it is something in the scripts.  Does anyone have some ideas or now where to 
get some scripts to fix the problem.  Now

The authors of this version of scripts are:
Authors: James Teh, Victer Tsaran and Michael Curran.



If any of these people perhaps is on the list maybe they can email me and I 
will work with them off list as not to clutter up the list.


I could uninstall all the audobe audition scrips but I think it can be 
fixed. I am just the crazy one who probably didn't follow directions 
correctly.


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Re: adobe audition 1.5 jaws scrips problem

[G. McFarlane]

Hi Dan
I did get them working beyond Jaws 7, certainly to version 9 and possibly 
10.
I found that they only worked if I made sure that they were in the Jaws 
settings - not the ones in 'All Users' but in the Jaws settings in my own 
profile in Documents and Settings. (This was in XP home) Maybe this is the 
problem. They did not work if I had 2 versions - I had to remove all the 
script files  for Audition in the 'All User' jaws settings and only have 
them in my own user settings.

Gordon
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: adobe audition 1.5 jaws scrips problem



Hi All,
I tried installing the jaws scrips for audition 1.5 using jaws 10.
this is what I did and now have problems opening adobe audition because I 
tried switching to miulti-track mode once.


1.
copied all the files inside the jfwaudition1.0beta5.zip file to my  JFW 
settings,  enu directory .


2.  I was told that I would need to open both audition.jss and audtips.jss 
separately in JFW script


manager and press control+s to re-compile them.

I did that with the  audition.jss  file.  But I could not find the 
audtips.jss  file to recompile it.


3.  Opened audobe audition and everything worked.  Until, I tried pressing 
f12 to switch to multi-track view.  But it will work with window-eyes.  So 
it is something in the scripts.  Does anyone have some ideas or now where 
to get some scripts to fix the problem.  Now

The authors of this version of scripts are:
Authors: James Teh, Victer Tsaran and Michael Curran.



If any of these people perhaps is on the list maybe they can email me and 
I will work with them off list as not to clutter up the list.


I could uninstall all the audobe audition scrips but I think it can be 
fixed. I am just the crazy one who probably didn't follow directions 
correctly.


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Adobe Audition

[Ray]

Coming in late, but which version of Adobe Audition are we discussing please?

I keep hearing any version above 1.5 is a pretty hopeless proposition.
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Window-Eyes Scripts for Adobe Audition 3

[Steve Pattison]

Following on from the discussion about Adobe Audition Window-Eyes
scripts for Adobe Audition 3 can be downloaded from Script Central at
https://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1219

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Re: adobe audition

[Steve S]

Hi Brett.  Sonar is a top piece of software that delivers both in the audio 
and midi field.  It's highly accessible using either Caketalking or JSonar, 
although it can be quite a learning curve to get the most out of it.  So, in 
answer to your question, no it isn't just midi and the audio part is 
extremely detailed and highly accessible.  HTH, cheers Steve.
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: adobe audition


Isn't sonar mostly used for midi music? Or is the audio part just as 
detailed and accessible?
I was told that unless you use a lot of midi it's really not worth the 
price. Maybe I was given bad advice?

What do yall think?
bb
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



any idea where to get it?
That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production.

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't 
used

all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to 
sornar

8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
I also like the import and exporting,  features.
- Original Message -
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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started
with for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend
who is working on learning adobe audition multi-track using
window-eyes 71.  I will let you know.

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is
something i'd be interested in.

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Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I
find challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe
audition.

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To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
some of



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adobe audition

[joe bollard]

hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some of my 
sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the radio station 
with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i thought it was 
blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated  regards  from ireland, 
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Re: adobe audition

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also the 
sister station that we have on am.

I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some of 
my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the radio 
station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i 
thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated 
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RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

Hey there, now you have me curious.
Is this program the same as the former cool edit pro?
Anyone know if it works in window-eyes? 

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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also the
sister station that we have on am.
I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
  John.
- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


 hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, 
 some of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used 
 at the radio station with which i am involved, i might think of 
 purchasing it if i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be 
 really appreciated regards  from ireland, joe., To unsubscribe from 
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Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

I use adobe audition 1.5 frequently along with soundforge 10.  The both are 
great program. Yes, adobe audition is the old cooledit.


- Original Message - 
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



Hey there, now you have me curious.
Is this program the same as the former cool edit pro?
Anyone know if it works in window-eyes?

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also the
sister station that we have on am.
I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
some of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used
at the radio station with which i am involved, i might think of
purchasing it if i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be
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Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I find 
challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe audition.


- Original Message - 
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some of 
my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the radio 
station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i 
thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated 
regards  from ireland, joe.,

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RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

so it works with windoweyes?
How much is thisprogram?  I am looking to get a multi-track editer. 

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use adobe audition 1.5 frequently along with soundforge 10.  The both are
great program. Yes, adobe audition is the old cooledit.

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From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: adobe audition


 Hey there, now you have me curious.
 Is this program the same as the former cool edit pro?
 Anyone know if it works in window-eyes?

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:52 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 High Joe,
 Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
 The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
 I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also the
 sister station that we have on am.
 I haven't had any problems with it at all!
 Hope this helps.
 My best regards.
  John.
 - Original Message -
 From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
 To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
 Subject: adobe audition


 hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
 some of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used
 at the radio station with which i am involved, i might think of
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RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is something
i'd be interested in. 

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I find
challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe audition.

- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


 hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some of

 my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the radio 
 station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i 
 thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated 
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Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend who is 
working on learning adobe audition multi-track using window-eyes 71.  I will 
let you know.


- Original Message - 
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is 
something

i'd be interested in.

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I find
challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe audition.

- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some 
of



my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the radio
station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i
thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated
regards  from ireland, joe.,
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RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started with
for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed 

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend who is
working on learning adobe audition multi-track using window-eyes 71.  I will
let you know.

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From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition


 really,
 very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is 
 something
 i'd be interested in.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I find
 challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe audition.

 - Original Message -
 From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
 To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
 Subject: adobe audition


 hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some 
 of

 my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the radio
 station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i
 thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated
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Re: adobe audition

[robert Doc Wright]

yes, adobe bought them out.
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



Hey there, now you have me curious.
Is this program the same as the former cool edit pro?
Anyone know if it works in window-eyes?

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also the
sister station that we have on am.
I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
some of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used
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Re: adobe audition

[Brian Olesen]

hi,
sonar 8.5 is amacing not just good, and if you combine it with good set 
files and stuff you'd be good to go.


Brian
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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started with
for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend who is
working on learning adobe audition multi-track using window-eyes 71.  I 
will

let you know.

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From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is
something
i'd be interested in.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I find
challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe 
audition.


- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some
of


my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the 
radio

station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i
thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated
regards  from ireland, joe.,
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Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't used 
all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many 
programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to sornar 
8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.

I also like the import and exporting,  features.
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started with
for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend who is
working on learning adobe audition multi-track using window-eyes 71.  I 
will

let you know.

- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is
something
i'd be interested in.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I find
challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe 
audition.


- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some
of


my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the 
radio

station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if i
thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated
regards  from ireland, joe.,
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RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

any idea where to get it?
That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production. 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't used
all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to sornar
8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
I also like the import and exporting,  features.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition


 ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started 
 with for multi-tracking.
 You on aim at all?

 Thanks man,
 Jed

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend 
 who is working on learning adobe audition multi-track using 
 window-eyes 71.  I will let you know.

 - Original Message -
 From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
 Subject: RE: adobe audition


 really,
 very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is 
 something i'd be interested in.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I 
 find challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe 
 audition.

 - Original Message -
 From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
 To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
 Subject: adobe audition


 hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, 
 some of

 my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the 
 radio station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing 
 it if i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really 
 appreciated regards  from ireland, joe., To unsubscribe from this 
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Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

  You can order both CakeTalking and SONAR at Dancing Dots.
   CakeTalking costs $289 and works fine with JAWS 10.  SONAR has 2
   editions
   which they sell for the minimum advertised price.  The Producer Edition 
is

   $499 and the Studio Edition is $299.  They are both excellent but the
   Producer Edition comes with a few more soft synthe instruments including
   the Session Drummer 3, more audio effects and more options to 
customize some

   of the effects also contained in the Studio Edition.

   For $99 you  can order the Fast Track USB or, for $199, the Fast Track
   Pro.  Both of these units are high-end audio interfaces/soundcards 
that
   connect using USB.  It's important to have a separate soundcard to 
dedicate to

   recording and playing back the audio that comes with SONAR.

   Lastly, you  should make certain that your  PC at least meets the 
minimum System Requirements for SONAR.  See
   http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/CakeTalkingForSONAR.htm for System 
Requirements for CakeTalking and a link to the System Requirements for 
SONAR.


   To order online, see the link that says: Order CakeTalking and Related
   Accessories Now which you will find on that same page.  For the Fast
   Track:
   http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/soundcards.htm

   Or just call us at 610-783-6692 and press Option 1 for Sales.

   Regards,
   Bill

   Bill McCann
   Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
   www.DancingDots.com
   Tel: [001] 610-783-6692
   -Original Message-
   From: dan thompson [mailto:dthomps...@mchsi.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:42 PM
   To: Dancing Dots
   Subject: cost of Caketalk 8.5 and Sornar 8.5

   Hi Bill, This is Dan Thompson from Illinois.  I have a firend who has
   her
   own copy of Jaws 10 and wants to get a copy of Sornar and Caketalk after
   I
   showed her mine.  Since she has her own copy of jaws unlike myself who
   baught everything frojm Dancing dots, what would this cost?  Does she
   need
   to send you her authorization cod and locking code for her copy of Jaws
   fin
   order to get Sornar and Caketalk to match her copy of Jaws?  Thanks so
   much
   for any information.





- Original Message - 
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



any idea where to get it?
That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't 
used

all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to 
sornar

8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
I also like the import and exporting,  features.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started
with for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend
who is working on learning adobe audition multi-track using
window-eyes 71.  I will let you know.

- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is
something i'd be interested in.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I
find challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe
audition.

- Original Message -
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
some of



my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the
radio station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing
it if i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really
appreciated regards  from ireland, joe., To unsubscribe from this
list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc

RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

hey Dan, is cake talking just as good, and is it a multi track editer?
 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

   You can order both CakeTalking and SONAR at Dancing Dots.
CakeTalking costs $289 and works fine with JAWS 10.  SONAR has 2
editions
which they sell for the minimum advertised price.  The Producer Edition
is
$499 and the Studio Edition is $299.  They are both excellent but the
Producer Edition comes with a few more soft synthe instruments including
the Session Drummer 3, more audio effects and more options to 
customize some
of the effects also contained in the Studio Edition.

For $99 you  can order the Fast Track USB or, for $199, the Fast Track
Pro.  Both of these units are high-end audio interfaces/soundcards 
that
connect using USB.  It's important to have a separate soundcard to 
dedicate to
recording and playing back the audio that comes with SONAR.

Lastly, you  should make certain that your  PC at least meets the 
minimum System Requirements for SONAR.  See
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/CakeTalkingForSONAR.htm for System
Requirements for CakeTalking and a link to the System Requirements for
SONAR.

To order online, see the link that says: Order CakeTalking and Related
Accessories Now which you will find on that same page.  For the Fast
Track:
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/soundcards.htm

Or just call us at 610-783-6692 and press Option 1 for Sales.

Regards,
Bill

Bill McCann
Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
www.DancingDots.com
Tel: [001] 610-783-6692
-Original Message-
From: dan thompson [mailto:dthomps...@mchsi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:42 PM
To: Dancing Dots
Subject: cost of Caketalk 8.5 and Sornar 8.5

Hi Bill, This is Dan Thompson from Illinois.  I have a firend who has
her
own copy of Jaws 10 and wants to get a copy of Sornar and Caketalk after
I
showed her mine.  Since she has her own copy of jaws unlike myself who
baught everything frojm Dancing dots, what would this cost?  Does she
need
to send you her authorization cod and locking code for her copy of Jaws
fin
order to get Sornar and Caketalk to match her copy of Jaws?  Thanks so
much
for any information.





- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition


 any idea where to get it?
 That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't 
 used
 all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
 programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to 
 sornar
 8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
 I also like the import and exporting,  features.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
 Subject: RE: adobe audition


 ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started
 with for multi-tracking.
 You on aim at all?

 Thanks man,
 Jed

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend
 who is working on learning adobe audition multi-track using
 window-eyes 71.  I will let you know.

 - Original Message -
 From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
 Subject: RE: adobe audition


 really,
 very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is
 something i'd be interested in.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I
 find challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe
 audition.

 - Original Message -
 From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
 To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
 Subject: adobe audition


 hello friends

Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

Caketalking makes it possible to use jaws better with sornar.  You can hear 
the tracks click as you pass them, sounds when arming/unarming a track and 
much more.  There is a program called jsornar I think is free but I haven't 
used it much to speak very much about the features.
Dancing dots usually sell caketalk with sornar because sonar doesn't have 
any speech with it.  Window-eyes does work with sornar.  However you don't 
get all the sounds confirming when a given action has taken place.  It just 
depends how much feedback you wish and if caketalk can fit in your budget. 
I had to save up for around a year and ahalf to get my first sornar and 
didn't get any of the upgrades between sornar four and eight because I 
couldn't come up with the money until version eight came out.

Maybe someone else on the list can speak on jsonar.
Sorry for the lack on info on jsonar from me.

- Original Message - 
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



hey Dan, is cake talking just as good, and is it a multi track editer?


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

  You can order both CakeTalking and SONAR at Dancing Dots.
   CakeTalking costs $289 and works fine with JAWS 10.  SONAR has 2
   editions
   which they sell for the minimum advertised price.  The Producer Edition
is
   $499 and the Studio Edition is $299.  They are both excellent but the
   Producer Edition comes with a few more soft synthe instruments 
including

   the Session Drummer 3, more audio effects and more options to
customize some
   of the effects also contained in the Studio Edition.

   For $99 you  can order the Fast Track USB or, for $199, the Fast Track
   Pro.  Both of these units are high-end audio interfaces/soundcards
that
   connect using USB.  It's important to have a separate soundcard to
dedicate to
   recording and playing back the audio that comes with SONAR.

   Lastly, you  should make certain that your  PC at least meets the
minimum System Requirements for SONAR.  See
   http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/CakeTalkingForSONAR.htm for System
Requirements for CakeTalking and a link to the System Requirements for
SONAR.

   To order online, see the link that says: Order CakeTalking and Related
   Accessories Now which you will find on that same page.  For the Fast
   Track:
   http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/soundcards.htm

   Or just call us at 610-783-6692 and press Option 1 for Sales.

   Regards,
   Bill

   Bill McCann
   Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
   www.DancingDots.com
   Tel: [001] 610-783-6692
   -Original Message-
   From: dan thompson [mailto:dthomps...@mchsi.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:42 PM
   To: Dancing Dots
   Subject: cost of Caketalk 8.5 and Sornar 8.5

   Hi Bill, This is Dan Thompson from Illinois.  I have a firend who has
   her
   own copy of Jaws 10 and wants to get a copy of Sornar and Caketalk 
after

   I
   showed her mine.  Since she has her own copy of jaws unlike myself who
   baught everything frojm Dancing dots, what would this cost?  Does she
   need
   to send you her authorization cod and locking code for her copy of Jaws
   fin
   order to get Sornar and Caketalk to match her copy of Jaws?  Thanks so
   much
   for any information.





- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



any idea where to get it?
That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't
used
all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to
sornar
8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
I also like the import and exporting,  features.
- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started
with for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track

RE: adobe audition

[Jed Barton]

that sounds cool.
figured we could chat about it more, you on aim or skype? 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Caketalking makes it possible to use jaws better with sornar.  You can hear
the tracks click as you pass them, sounds when arming/unarming a track and
much more.  There is a program called jsornar I think is free but I haven't
used it much to speak very much about the features.
Dancing dots usually sell caketalk with sornar because sonar doesn't have
any speech with it.  Window-eyes does work with sornar.  However you don't
get all the sounds confirming when a given action has taken place.  It just
depends how much feedback you wish and if caketalk can fit in your budget. 
I had to save up for around a year and ahalf to get my first sornar and
didn't get any of the upgrades between sornar four and eight because I
couldn't come up with the money until version eight came out.
Maybe someone else on the list can speak on jsonar.
Sorry for the lack on info on jsonar from me.

- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition


 hey Dan, is cake talking just as good, and is it a multi track editer?


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:44 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

   You can order both CakeTalking and SONAR at Dancing Dots.
CakeTalking costs $289 and works fine with JAWS 10.  SONAR has 2
editions
which they sell for the minimum advertised price.  The Producer Edition
 is
$499 and the Studio Edition is $299.  They are both excellent but the
Producer Edition comes with a few more soft synthe instruments 
 including
the Session Drummer 3, more audio effects and more options to
 customize some
of the effects also contained in the Studio Edition.

For $99 you  can order the Fast Track USB or, for $199, the Fast Track
Pro.  Both of these units are high-end audio interfaces/soundcards
 that
connect using USB.  It's important to have a separate soundcard to
 dedicate to
recording and playing back the audio that comes with SONAR.

Lastly, you  should make certain that your  PC at least meets the
 minimum System Requirements for SONAR.  See
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/CakeTalkingForSONAR.htm for System
 Requirements for CakeTalking and a link to the System Requirements for
 SONAR.

To order online, see the link that says: Order CakeTalking and Related
Accessories Now which you will find on that same page.  For the Fast
Track:
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/soundcards.htm

Or just call us at 610-783-6692 and press Option 1 for Sales.

Regards,
Bill

Bill McCann
Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
www.DancingDots.com
Tel: [001] 610-783-6692
-Original Message-
From: dan thompson [mailto:dthomps...@mchsi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:42 PM
To: Dancing Dots
Subject: cost of Caketalk 8.5 and Sornar 8.5

Hi Bill, This is Dan Thompson from Illinois.  I have a firend who has
her
own copy of Jaws 10 and wants to get a copy of Sornar and Caketalk 
 after
I
showed her mine.  Since she has her own copy of jaws unlike myself who
baught everything frojm Dancing dots, what would this cost?  Does she
need
to send you her authorization cod and locking code for her copy of Jaws
fin
order to get Sornar and Caketalk to match her copy of Jaws?  Thanks so
much
for any information.





 - Original Message -
 From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:16 PM
 Subject: RE: adobe audition


 any idea where to get it?
 That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of dan thompson
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: adobe audition

 Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't
 used
 all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
 programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to
 sornar
 8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
 I also like the import and exporting,  features.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
 Subject: RE: adobe audition


 ah, how good is sonar 8

Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

I will be back on skype again later next week.  My main computer crashed and 
I am getting anew one on the fifth.  So I need to set it up.  I am emailing 
from my laptop.
I will get back to you.  email me off list and I can send you my cell phone 
number and I can call you when I am in the studio or walk you through a few 
things.
But I am sure there are much better users of the program on this list who 
copuld give you more of the finer features directions in sornar.  I've seen 
som pretty occomplished sornar and caketalk wizards on this list.  but I am 
willing to tellyou what I know.  Also Bill Macan is a great resource.  He is 
always willing to work with a person.

if there are others more experi
- Original Message - 
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



that sounds cool.
figured we could chat about it more, you on aim or skype?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Caketalking makes it possible to use jaws better with sornar.  You can 
hear

the tracks click as you pass them, sounds when arming/unarming a track and
much more.  There is a program called jsornar I think is free but I 
haven't

used it much to speak very much about the features.
Dancing dots usually sell caketalk with sornar because sonar doesn't have
any speech with it.  Window-eyes does work with sornar.  However you don't
get all the sounds confirming when a given action has taken place.  It 
just

depends how much feedback you wish and if caketalk can fit in your budget.
I had to save up for around a year and ahalf to get my first sornar and
didn't get any of the upgrades between sornar four and eight because I
couldn't come up with the money until version eight came out.
Maybe someone else on the list can speak on jsonar.
Sorry for the lack on info on jsonar from me.

- Original Message -
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



hey Dan, is cake talking just as good, and is it a multi track editer?


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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

  You can order both CakeTalking and SONAR at Dancing Dots.
   CakeTalking costs $289 and works fine with JAWS 10.  SONAR has 2
   editions
   which they sell for the minimum advertised price.  The Producer 
Edition

is
   $499 and the Studio Edition is $299.  They are both excellent but the
   Producer Edition comes with a few more soft synthe instruments
including
   the Session Drummer 3, more audio effects and more options to
customize some
   of the effects also contained in the Studio Edition.

   For $99 you  can order the Fast Track USB or, for $199, the Fast Track
   Pro.  Both of these units are high-end audio interfaces/soundcards
that
   connect using USB.  It's important to have a separate soundcard to
dedicate to
   recording and playing back the audio that comes with SONAR.

   Lastly, you  should make certain that your  PC at least meets the
minimum System Requirements for SONAR.  See
   http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/CakeTalkingForSONAR.htm for System
Requirements for CakeTalking and a link to the System Requirements for
SONAR.

   To order online, see the link that says: Order CakeTalking and 
Related

   Accessories Now which you will find on that same page.  For the Fast
   Track:
   http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/soundcards.htm

   Or just call us at 610-783-6692 and press Option 1 for Sales.

   Regards,
   Bill

   Bill McCann
   Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
   www.DancingDots.com
   Tel: [001] 610-783-6692
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   From: dan thompson [mailto:dthomps...@mchsi.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:42 PM
   To: Dancing Dots
   Subject: cost of Caketalk 8.5 and Sornar 8.5

   Hi Bill, This is Dan Thompson from Illinois.  I have a firend who has
   her
   own copy of Jaws 10 and wants to get a copy of Sornar and Caketalk
after
   I
   showed her mine.  Since she has her own copy of jaws unlike myself who
   baught everything frojm Dancing dots, what would this cost?  Does she
   need
   to send you her authorization cod and locking code for her copy of 
Jaws

   fin
   order to get Sornar and Caketalk to match her copy of Jaws?  Thanks so
   much
   for any information.





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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



any idea where to get

Re: adobe audition

[Edwin]

Hi,

Could I ask, which adobe audition version are you using and when you mean 
accessible, does it mean for all instances like managing multi-tracks and 
performing related tasks?


Thanks.

Regards,
Edwin.


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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:51 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: adobe audition


High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also the 
sister station that we have on am.

I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some 
of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the 
radio station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it if 
i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated 
regards  from ireland, joe.,

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Re: adobe audition

[dan thompson]

I use adobe audition1.5 and no multi-tracks don't work fo me without using 
the mouse routing keys and you must pay very very close attetnition where 
you are.  because any distraction can cause to loose your place.  I found it 
to much of a chance of messing up with window-eyes.  However, I am going to 
try with wome new jaws scrips I just got and see what happens.


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From: Edwin edwin...@yahoo.com.sg

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: adobe audition



Hi,

Could I ask, which adobe audition version are you using and when you mean 
accessible, does it mean for all instances like managing multi-tracks and 
performing related tasks?


Thanks.

Regards,
Edwin.


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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:51 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: adobe audition


High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also 
the sister station that we have on am.

I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some 
of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the 
radio station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it 
if i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated 
regards  from ireland, joe.,

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Re: adobe audition

[Edwin]

Hi dan,

could you be so kind to send me those jaws scripts to try it out if its 
possible?


Thanks.

Regards,
Edwin.


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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use adobe audition1.5 and no multi-tracks don't work fo me without using 
the mouse routing keys and you must pay very very close attetnition where 
you are.  because any distraction can cause to loose your place.  I found 
it to much of a chance of messing up with window-eyes.  However, I am 
going to try with wome new jaws scrips I just got and see what happens.


- Original Message - 
From: Edwin edwin...@yahoo.com.sg

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: adobe audition



Hi,

Could I ask, which adobe audition version are you using and when you mean 
accessible, does it mean for all instances like managing multi-tracks and 
performing related tasks?


Thanks.

Regards,
Edwin.


--
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:51 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: adobe audition


High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also 
the sister station that we have on am.

I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net

To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition


hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly, some 
of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the 
radio station with which i am involved, i might think of purchasing it 
if i thought it was blind friendly, any help will be really appreciated 
regards  from ireland, joe.,

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Re: adobe audition

[Brett Boyer]

Isn't sonar mostly used for midi music? Or is the audio part just as 
detailed and accessible?
I was told that unless you use a lot of midi it's really not worth the 
price. Maybe I was given bad advice?

What do yall think?
bb
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



any idea where to get it?
That's the main thing i wanna do is multitrack production.

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Sornar 8 is extremely suitable for your needs.  I must admit I haven't 
used

all of it's features yet.  But have used some affects, recored many many
programs and local artists using the multi-tracks from sornar 4 up to 
sornar

8.  I can't afford to get sornar five right now.
I also like the import and exporting,  features.
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From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



ah, how good is sonar 8?  i'm looking for a program i can get started
with for multi-tracking.
You on aim at all?

Thanks man,
Jed

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use sornar 8 for doing the multi-track.  However, I have a friend
who is working on learning adobe audition multi-track using
window-eyes 71.  I will let you know.

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



really,
very curious how you make out with that, cause the multi-track is
something i'd be interested in.

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

Most of it is blind friendly . However, the multi-trick feature I
find challenging.  I am going to try some scrips I just got for adobe
audition.

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To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
some of



my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used at the
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Re: adobe audition

[G. McFarlane]

Hi
I've used Audition for years now but only in the 1.5 version. I use the 
scripts and find them very accessible especially with the Multitrack 
section. They were written for Jaws 7 but I did manage to install them in XP 
into the Jaws 9 and 10 enu setting, but they only appeared to work for me 
when in the Jaws settings in the User section, not the All User section.
I didn't find them too good for positioning a file in a track, but for 
recording 8 or 4 tracks then editing they were great.
I'm now onto Sonar and although the Audio effects are more limited than in 
Audition they work well, especially the time/pitch shift. I believe version 
8.5 is better for Audio effects etc. and will find out soon when I purchase 
it.
If you can get a copy of Audition 1.5 it may be fairly cheap - certainly 
cheaper than the Sonar/Caketalking route - but if you want to keep up to 
date then unless someone writes scripts for the Audition v3  or above 
versions with their new interface, then you'll be working with an old 
technology with older algorithms. They're good so it probably doesn't 
matter, but, assuming effects and options get better there will come a time 
when it may get left behind a bit.

Gordon McFarlane
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



so it works with windoweyes?
How much is thisprogram?  I am looking to get a multi-track editer.

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On Behalf Of dan thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: adobe audition

I use adobe audition 1.5 frequently along with soundforge 10.  The both 
are

great program. Yes, adobe audition is the old cooledit.

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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: adobe audition



Hey there, now you have me curious.
Is this program the same as the former cool edit pro?
Anyone know if it works in window-eyes?

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On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:52 AM
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Subject: Re: adobe audition

High Joe,
Yes it is, I use it at the radio station that I work for too as well.
The computer at work, is running Windows XP pro and Jaws 9.
I use the software to produce adds to air on the mane station and also 
the

sister station that we have on am.
I haven't had any problems with it at all!
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
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To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:45 AM
Subject: adobe audition



hello friends, a quick question, is adobe audition blind friendly,
some of my sighted audio friends are using it, it is also being used
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Re: Adobe Audition 3 Script

[Brian Olesen]

hey steve,
wow I wish this was for Jaws :-)

Brian
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:26 AM
Subject: Fwd: Adobe Audition 3 Script



From: Aaron Smith aa...@gwmicro.com
To: gw-script...@gwmicro.com

Greetings,

I've just posted the first version of a script for Adobe Audition 3.0.
After talking with the Audition developers, and with the addition of
scripting to Window-Eyes, we've been able to make Audition much more
accessible than before (seeing as how it wasn't really accessible at all
before). Now you can hear detailed information as you navigate the
Audition window. For example, when you press Alt-Page Up and Alt-Page
Down to traverse through the various panes, you'll hear the pane name.
Then you can tab through the various controls in that pane and have both
the control's name and value read to you.

If you have a copy of Adobe Audition 3.0, give this script a try, and
let me know how you do.

http://www.gwmicro.com/scripts/adobe_audition_3

Aaron
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RE: Adobe Audition 3 Script

[ted phillips]

Wow, me too.  I am well set with jaws.  I have audition 3, but can't use it.
Oh well, maybe one day. 

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Sent: February 7, 2009 7:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Adobe Audition 3 Script

hey steve,
wow I wish this was for Jaws :-)

Brian
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:26 AM
Subject: Fwd: Adobe Audition 3 Script


 From: Aaron Smith aa...@gwmicro.com
 To: gw-script...@gwmicro.com

 Greetings,

 I've just posted the first version of a script for Adobe Audition 3.0.
 After talking with the Audition developers, and with the addition of 
 scripting to Window-Eyes, we've been able to make Audition much more 
 accessible than before (seeing as how it wasn't really accessible at 
 all before). Now you can hear detailed information as you navigate the 
 Audition window. For example, when you press Alt-Page Up and Alt-Page 
 Down to traverse through the various panes, you'll hear the pane name.
 Then you can tab through the various controls in that pane and have 
 both the control's name and value read to you.

 If you have a copy of Adobe Audition 3.0, give this script a try, and 
 let me know how you do.

 http://www.gwmicro.com/scripts/adobe_audition_3

 Aaron
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Re: Adobe Audition 3 Script

[Keith Gillard]

What a constructivbe solution.

LOL!


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Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe Audition 3 Script


Hi Brian,

You and other JAWS users could use a demonstration copy of Window-Eyes 
just for the times when you want to use Adobe Audition.

Regards Steve.

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org

wow I wish this was for Jaws :-)

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Re: Adobe Audition 3 Script

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Hi Brian,

You and other JAWS users could use a demonstration copy of Window-Eyes 
just for the times when you want to use Adobe Audition.

Regards Steve.

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wow I wish this was for Jaws :-)

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Fwd: Adobe Audition 3 Script

[Steve Pattison]

From: Aaron Smith aa...@gwmicro.com
To: gw-script...@gwmicro.com

Greetings,

I've just posted the first version of a script for Adobe Audition 3.0.
After talking with the Audition developers, and with the addition of
scripting to Window-Eyes, we've been able to make Audition much more
accessible than before (seeing as how it wasn't really accessible at all
before). Now you can hear detailed information as you navigate the
Audition window. For example, when you press Alt-Page Up and Alt-Page
Down to traverse through the various panes, you'll hear the pane name.
Then you can tab through the various controls in that pane and have both
the control's name and value read to you.

If you have a copy of Adobe Audition 3.0, give this script a try, and
let me know how you do.

http://www.gwmicro.com/scripts/adobe_audition_3

Aaron
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Re: adobe audition

[stewart ross]

can someone tell me how to use or get vertion 1.5 from? and how to use it 
with jaws8 would this be the revamped bit of cool eddit?

tune in to
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Subject: adobe audition



Hello everyone,

is the latest version of adobe audition accessible?  or is the last
accessible version 1.5?

Thank you.


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adobe audition

[Juan Hernandez]

Hello everyone,
 
is the latest version of adobe audition accessible?  or is the last
accessible version 1.5?
 
Thank you.
  
 
Juan Hernandez
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