Re: FM transmitters

[Barry Chapman]

Thanks to all who replied to my question about FM transmitters.  It appears 
that the C. Crane FM 2 transmitter should be sufficient 
for my needs.

Thanks,
Barry Chapman

- Original Message - 
From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


I have one of the C Crane transmitters.  Without modification, it covers my
house and yard well.  My yard is about 125 by 60 or so.  Of course, the
higher you can have it, the better coverage you get.  I'm told there is an
adjustment under the cover that will raise the output some.  It was not
necessary in my case.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au
To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:32 PM
Subject: FM transmitters


 Hi all,

 I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so
 perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There
 has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with
 multiple inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which
 will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

 I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the
 output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio
 approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

 I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which
 appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the
 C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone
 have one of these units and will it operate effectively
 over the required distance.

 Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

 Thanks,
 Barry Chapman


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Re: FM transmitters

[Howard Traxler]

I have one of the C Crane transmitters.  Without modification, it covers my 
house and yard well.  My yard is about 125 by 60 or so.  Of course, the 
higher you can have it, the better coverage you get.  I'm told there is an 
adjustment under the cover that will raise the output some.  It was not 
necessary in my case.


Howard
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au

To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:32 PM
Subject: FM transmitters



Hi all,

I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so 
perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There
has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with 
multiple inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which

will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the 
output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio

approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which 
appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the
C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone 
have one of these units and will it operate effectively

over the required distance.

Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

Thanks,
Barry Chapman


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Re: FM transmitters

[Barry Chapman]

The C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 is $59.95 USD plus delivery.  Details are at
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/fm-transmitters/fm-transmitter-2.aspx

Regards,
Barry Chapman

- Original Message - 
From: Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


how much are the c crane fm transmitters?
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


Hello Lois and list:  I, too, am using the Ccrane Transmitter (am reasonably
sure it's the same model you're using_) have had mine since 2004 and works
well!  But about that deal where you could peal the thing off and adjust the
screw: if I'm understanding correctly, the newer transmitters don't allow
you to do that anymore!  When I first got mine, it didn't quite have the
power I wanted it to have!  It was fine for just listening to the stereo in
this little room where the computer is!  But if I wanted to hear what was
going on through the radio I have in the kitchen (I could hear it; it just
wouldn't be in stereo) aw but I got a friend of mine to turn that screw
and..vala!  If anyone knows if they make these units in this same way,
please feel free to jump on here and let us know?  As I said, have had this
one since 04, so it's conceivable that mine could quit any day in the future
(hope not) but if it does, would be nice to know that I could replace it
with one that would work for me just as well (or..um..I _could_ make it work
just as well?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Lois Goodine al...@verizon.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


I have been using a C crane fm transmitter for ten or eleven years  now and
find it good for what you intend it for.  I plug the output into the cable
coming from the soundcard of my PC and tune the stereo across the room to
the same frequency as I tune the transmitter.  I can hear it anywhere in
the house. On the back of the unit, there is a piece of light cardboard
stuck over a little panel with a tiny screw adjustment with which you can
increase the power some.  I have had no difficulty with this transmitter.
 Lois Goodine.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au
 To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:32 PM
 Subject: FM transmitters


 Hi all,

 I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so
 perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There
 has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with
 multiple inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which
 will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

 I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the
 output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio
 approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

 I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which
 appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the
 C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone
 have one of these units and will it operate effectively
 over the required distance.

 Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

 Thanks,
 Barry Chapman


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FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

Try the link below for information on a consumer FM transmitter that is made in 
Canada. Jonathan Mosan purchased one of these units, and he is definitely 
pleased with it. The price is about  400 in american funds.  

Decade, a canadian company also makes a consumer FM transmitter  that looks 
pretty good. It sells for about 200 dollars Canadian. They sell low power FM 
transmitters that are used in churches, ballparks,  real-estate information 
etc. They recently got into the home consumer business, and make an excellent 
transmitter that can be used in the home. Below is the information on this 
transmitter
The CM-10 is a consumer grade low power FM transmitter operating in the 
commercial FM band (88.1 - 107.5 MHz). It is especially designed for in-house 
broadcasting, gyms and fitness centres and small rooms for a variety of 
entertainment, hearing assistance, translation, and information applications.  
Its excellent RF and audio performances, small size and ease of use make the 
CM-10 stand out from all the other consumer grade FM transmitters on the 
market. Heer are the links:
http://www.decade.ca/en/products.php?prd=587575038
 
http://www.fmamplifiers.com/100mws_lcd.htm

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FM transmitters

[Barry Chapman]

Hi all,

I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so perhaps 
for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There 
has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with multiple 
inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which 
will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the output 
from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio 
approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which appears to 
do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the 
C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone have 
one of these units and will it operate effectively 
over the required distance.

Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

Thanks,
Barry Chapman


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Re: FM transmitters

[Lois Goodine]

I have been using a C crane fm transmitter for ten or eleven years  now and 
find it good for what you intend it for.  I plug the output into the cable 
coming from the soundcard of my PC and tune the stereo across the room to 
the same frequency as I tune the transmitter.  I can hear it anywhere in the 
house. On the back of the unit, there is a piece of light cardboard stuck 
over a little panel with a tiny screw adjustment with which you can increase 
the power some.  I have had no difficulty with this transmitter.

Lois Goodine.
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au

To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: FM transmitters



Hi all,

I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so 
perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There
has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with 
multiple inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which

will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the 
output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio

approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which 
appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the
C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone 
have one of these units and will it operate effectively

over the required distance.

Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

Thanks,
Barry Chapman


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Re: FM transmitters

[Joe Giovanelli]

Hi, Barry,

I use the C. Crane unit.  I bought it a few months ago and it has been running 
ever since.

I see no reason that it won't transmit over the required distance.  If there's 
a problem, clipping a small length of wire to the antenna will be more than 
adequate.

Joe G.

- Original Message -
From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au
To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Friday, October 26, 2012 19:32
Subject: FM transmitters



 Hi all,
 
 I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so 
 perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There 
 has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with multiple 
 inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which 
 will just do what I want.  My original message follows.
 
 I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the output 
 from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio 
 approximately 30 to 40 feet away.
 
 I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which appears 
 to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the 
 C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone have 
 one of these units and will it operate effectively 
 over the required distance.
 
 Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.
 
 Thanks,
 Barry Chapman
 
 
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RE: FM transmitters

[Hamit Campos]

Does anyone know of stand alone FM tooners? I know the older TV tooners had
them in them, but the cable card ones don't. So, I would need a stand alone
one.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe
Giovanelli
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:58 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: FM transmitters

Hi, Barry,

I use the C. Crane unit.  I bought it a few months ago and it has been
running ever since.

I see no reason that it won't transmit over the required distance.  If
there's a problem, clipping a small length of wire to the antenna will be
more than adequate.

Joe G.

- Original Message -
From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au
To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Friday, October 26, 2012 19:32
Subject: FM transmitters



 Hi all,
 
 I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, 
 so perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There has been 
 mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with multiple
inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which will just do what I
want.  My original message follows.
 
 I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the 
 output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio approximately 30 to
40 feet away.
 
 I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which 
 appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the C. 
 Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone have
one of these units and will it operate effectively over the required
distance.
 
 Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.
 
 Thanks,
 Barry Chapman
 
 
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Re: FM transmitters

[Tom Kaufman]

Hello Lois and list:  I, too, am using the Ccrane Transmitter (am reasonably 
sure it's the same model you're using_) have had mine since 2004 and works 
well!  But about that deal where you could peal the thing off and adjust the 
screw: if I'm understanding correctly, the newer transmitters don't allow 
you to do that anymore!  When I first got mine, it didn't quite have the 
power I wanted it to have!  It was fine for just listening to the stereo in 
this little room where the computer is!  But if I wanted to hear what was 
going on through the radio I have in the kitchen (I could hear it; it just 
wouldn't be in stereo) aw but I got a friend of mine to turn that screw 
and..vala!  If anyone knows if they make these units in this same way, 
please feel free to jump on here and let us know?  As I said, have had this 
one since 04, so it's conceivable that mine could quit any day in the future 
(hope not) but if it does, would be nice to know that I could replace it 
with one that would work for me just as well (or..um..I _could_ make it work 
just as well?

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Lois Goodine al...@verizon.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


I have been using a C crane fm transmitter for ten or eleven years  now and 
find it good for what you intend it for.  I plug the output into the cable 
coming from the soundcard of my PC and tune the stereo across the room to 
the same frequency as I tune the transmitter.  I can hear it anywhere in 
the house. On the back of the unit, there is a piece of light cardboard 
stuck over a little panel with a tiny screw adjustment with which you can 
increase the power some.  I have had no difficulty with this transmitter.

Lois Goodine.
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au

To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: FM transmitters



Hi all,

I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so 
perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There
has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with 
multiple inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which

will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the 
output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio

approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which 
appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the
C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone 
have one of these units and will it operate effectively

over the required distance.

Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

Thanks,
Barry Chapman


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Re: FM transmitters

[Sunshine]

how much are the c crane fm transmitters?
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


Hello Lois and list:  I, too, am using the Ccrane Transmitter (am reasonably
sure it's the same model you're using_) have had mine since 2004 and works
well!  But about that deal where you could peal the thing off and adjust the
screw: if I'm understanding correctly, the newer transmitters don't allow
you to do that anymore!  When I first got mine, it didn't quite have the
power I wanted it to have!  It was fine for just listening to the stereo in
this little room where the computer is!  But if I wanted to hear what was
going on through the radio I have in the kitchen (I could hear it; it just
wouldn't be in stereo) aw but I got a friend of mine to turn that screw
and..vala!  If anyone knows if they make these units in this same way,
please feel free to jump on here and let us know?  As I said, have had this
one since 04, so it's conceivable that mine could quit any day in the future
(hope not) but if it does, would be nice to know that I could replace it
with one that would work for me just as well (or..um..I _could_ make it work
just as well?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Lois Goodine al...@verizon.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: FM transmitters


I have been using a C crane fm transmitter for ten or eleven years  now and
find it good for what you intend it for.  I plug the output into the cable
coming from the soundcard of my PC and tune the stereo across the room to
the same frequency as I tune the transmitter.  I can hear it anywhere in
the house. On the back of the unit, there is a piece of light cardboard
stuck over a little panel with a tiny screw adjustment with which you can
increase the power some.  I have had no difficulty with this transmitter.
 Lois Goodine.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Barry Chapman ba...@bchapman.id.au
 To: PC-Audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:32 PM
 Subject: FM transmitters


 Hi all,

 I posted the following yesterday, but it hasn't come up on the list, so
 perhaps for whatever reason it didn't get through.  There
 has been mention recently on the list of high end transmitters with
 multiple inputs, but I am wanting something very basic which
 will just do what I want.  My original message follows.

 I am looking at getting a small FM transmitter which will transmit the
 output from a computer headphone jack to an FM radio
 approximately 30 to 40 feet away.

 I did a Google search and found the C. Crane FM Transmitter 2 which
 appears to do what I want, but I have heard in the past that the
 C. Crane transmitters are a little lacking in output power.  Does anyone
 have one of these units and will it operate effectively
 over the required distance.

 Alternatively, can anyone suggest an equivalent product which is better.

 Thanks,
 Barry Chapman


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FM Transmitters

[Dean Masters]

Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?

Thanks,
Dean
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Re: FM Transmitters

[Bob Seed]

YES!
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To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: FM Transmitters



Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?

Thanks,
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RE: FM Transmitters

[Dan Kerstetter]

I'm curious.  Is there a small FM transmitter I can use to cover one or two
rooms.  It doesn't have to be the whole house.  I'm only interested in
taking the sound from the computer I have in my bedroom and broadcasting it
to a stereo in the same room.

Dan


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On Behalf Of Bob Seed
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: FM Transmitters

YES!
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From: Dean Masters dwmast...@earthlink.net
To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: FM Transmitters


 Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?
 
 Thanks,
 Dean
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Re: FM Transmitters

[Larry Naessens]

Hi Dean. In my experience, most FM transmitters do transmit in stereo. 
they differ dramatically both in their audio quality and in the distance that 
they are able to transmit. Many are designed to transmit sound from iPods and 
MP3 players to car audio systems and therefore only need to transmit a few 
feet. Others are designed for home use and can transmit quite a bit further. 

As with anything else, check it out before you buy it.

Larry 



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 Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?
 
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Re: FM Transmitters

[Bob Seed]

The C. Crane FM transmitter should be able to do the job for you! Google 
them and you should be able to find a tole free telephone number for them!
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Kerstetter dh...@comcast.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: FM Transmitters


I'm curious.  Is there a small FM transmitter I can use to cover one or 
two

rooms.  It doesn't have to be the whole house.  I'm only interested in
taking the sound from the computer I have in my bedroom and broadcasting 
it

to a stereo in the same room.

Dan


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On Behalf Of Bob Seed
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: FM Transmitters

YES!
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From: Dean Masters dwmast...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: FM Transmitters



Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?

Thanks,
Dean
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Re: FM Transmitters

[Dean Masters]

That sounds like what I was looking for. I just want to hook it to my NLS 
player, etc. on the floor behind my exercise bike while wearing radio 
headphones.


SpeakToMe catalog has two sets of headphones and transmitters but they don't 
do stereo.


Dean
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: FM Transmitters


I'm sure the ones they sell at Radio Shack will work. they start at $29.
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Kerstetter dh...@comcast.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: FM Transmitters


I'm curious.  Is there a small FM transmitter I can use to cover one or 
two

rooms.  It doesn't have to be the whole house.  I'm only interested in
taking the sound from the computer I have in my bedroom and broadcasting 
it

to a stereo in the same room.

Dan


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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Bob Seed
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: FM Transmitters

YES!
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To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:15 AM
Subject: FM Transmitters



Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?

Thanks,
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Re: FM Transmitters

[Donald Ball]

sure they do.
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Do FM transmitters transmit in stereo?

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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[aadorno1]

thanks for the info.
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Angel

Think of these transmitters as a small radio station.  You wish to listen
to your favorite oldies, country, rB, classical, talk, sports, news, and
so one station -- so what do you do?
You find it on the radio dial, and if the signal from the station is
strong enough and your radio is sensitive and selective enough to picck it
up, you are listening to it.
If the signal is too weak or a particular radio gets some sort of
interference, then  you don't.
These low-powered personal transmitters work similarily.
You tune the transmitter to a frequency, find that same frequency on the
radio dial, and if all is well, you hear the signal.
Keep in mind, as I mentioned yesterday, not all radios will pick up a
signal with the same clarity -- but that also is the same case as is with
any other radio station.




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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Michael J. Schwandt]

Hi list,
There is another option.  Here in the sacramento, ca area the fm band is 
very crowded so i use a dedicated av transmitter and reciever.  i have 
two of these units, one working in the 900mhz band and the other working 
in the 2.4 ghz band.  These units consist of a transmitter and 
reciever.  You plug the source into the transmitter and a set of wired 
speakers into the reciever.  They do cover my entire house and yard.  
You can get them on three different bands of frequencies, 900 mhz, which 
are becomming hard to find, 2.4 ghz, which are the most common now and 
5.8 ghz, the newest band to be used.  Some of these broadcast only audio 
while others broadcast both audio and video.  if you do a google search, 
you will be able to find a lot of these.  Amazon sells several types as 
well.

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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Bob Seed]

Yep they work fine. I have a set of rock indoor and outdoor speakers 
purchased from the source. Good for partying on the deck. You can even hook 
up your satelite radio to them, or anything else such as an Ipod.
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Hi list,
There is another option.  Here in the sacramento, ca area the fm band is 
very crowded so i use a dedicated av transmitter and reciever.  i have two 
of these units, one working in the 900mhz band and the other working in 
the 2.4 ghz band.  These units consist of a transmitter and reciever.  You 
plug the source into the transmitter and a set of wired speakers into the 
reciever.  They do cover my entire house and yard.  You can get them on 
three different bands of frequencies, 900 mhz, which are becomming hard to 
find, 2.4 ghz, which are the most common now and 5.8 ghz, the newest band 
to be used.  Some of these broadcast only audio while others broadcast 
both audio and video.  if you do a google search, you will be able to find 
a lot of these.  Amazon sells several types as well.

hth
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[john schwery]

Any fm radio will work.  Just set a radio to the frequency to which 
the transmitter is set.


earlier, aadorno1, wrote:

   hi list.
I have a question about these transmittters and how they work.
once they are set up any fm radio you have in the house will pick up the
signal or does each radio in the house have to be set to a perticular
frequency?
I am thinking about buying one for myself.
thanks for your time.
Angel.
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300 ft is far beyond the range of the CCRANE unit.
And legally speaking here in the US, it is beyond the permitted limits
given power parameters.
I don't recall where I saw it -- it was a site selling transmitters -- but
it had a nice chart which nicely elaborated reception expectations at
various distance levels.
At 300 ft, a faint signal might be the best to expect.







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300 ft is far beyond the range of the CCRANE unit.
And legally speaking here in the US, it is beyond the permitted limits
given power parameters.
I don't recall where I saw it -- it was a site selling transmitters -- but
it had a nice chart which nicely elaborated reception expectations at
various distance levels.
At 300 ft, a faint signal might be the best to expect.







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Re: fm transmitters revisited

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Angel 

Think of these transmitters as a small radio station.  You wish to listen 
to your favorite oldies, country, rB, classical, talk, sports, news, and 
so one station -- so what do you do?
You find it on the radio dial, and if the signal from the station is 
strong enough and your radio is sensitive and selective enough to picck it 
up, you are listening to it.
If the signal is too weak or a particular radio gets some sort of 
interference, then  you don't.
These low-powered personal transmitters work similarily.
You tune the transmitter to a frequency, find that same frequency on the 
radio dial, and if all is well, you hear the signal.
Keep in mind, as I mentioned yesterday, not all radios will pick up a 
signal with the same clarity -- but that also is the same case as is with 
any other radio station.




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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Mike Pietruk]

300 ft is far beyond the range of the CCRANE unit.
And legally speaking here in the US, it is beyond the permitted limits 
given power parameters.
I don't recall where I saw it -- it was a site selling transmitters -- but 
it had a nice chart which nicely elaborated reception expectations at 
various distance levels.
At 300 ft, a faint signal might be the best to expect.







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Re: fm transmitters revisited

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Doc

Note that the advertised limit on the WholeHouse is 150 ft; you were 
looking for twice that.
Also, it's frequency limitations may or may not be an issue dependent on 
where you are.
Otherwise, this sounds like an excellent unit which I myself may consider 
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

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Donald

From my experience, .2 mhz away is too close if competing with a strong 
local.
If it is a rinshot some distance away, that would be fine.
In a metro area, in the commercial portion of the fm band, you want .4 mhz 
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Mike Pietruk]

Also, they can tune that transmitter to work with the lower portion of the 
fm band in the 88-89 mhz area from what I recall.
Dependent on area, that might (or might not) work best in a given area.
That, for instance, would be a preferred choice where I am in western 
Illinois currently but wouldn't necessarily be the preferred option in the 
Ocala, FL area where we are thinking of relocating to.
That is one reason I am currently holding off on purchasing it.








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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Mike Pietruk]

Dave

The V6000 looks very interesting!  Not only is it reasonably priced at 
$100, but it offers double flexibility in not only allowing one to select 
frequencies but also in power output as well as powering the unit.
I may be an oddball in this: but I don't believe more power is better.  I 
only want my signal to go as far as is needed, and not more.
I neither wish to interfere with anyone else's listening, nor do I wish to 
have my signal picked up by anyone but myself.

Thanks for the lead on this one as I will have to give it consideration.  
I also don't need stereo so this limitation is immaterial in my book.

 







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 If it doesn't have to be stereo try the v6000 transmitter at:
 www.mobileblackbox.com
 
 The Wholehouse fm transmitter is ok also for the price.
 
 Just about all the units available for less than $100 are toys and complete
 garbage imho.
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Larry Naessens]

It is an excellent unit in that it is really a pretty simple trouble free 
setup. Also, it seems to me that they offer antenna suggestions which can 
give you greater distance, though if the legal limit for transmitting in the 
States is 150 feet, then transmitting further could inspire another set of 
nasty problems that nobody wants. I haven't lived in the States for a while 
now so quite honestly I forgot about the 150 feet transmitting limitation.


For some, frequency limitation might be a problem, especially in an urban 
area. But I've been very satisfied


Larry with my whole house transmitter.
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Doc

Note that the advertised limit on the WholeHouse is 150 ft; you were
looking for twice that.
Also, it's frequency limitations may or may not be an issue dependent on
where you are.
Otherwise, this sounds like an excellent unit which I myself may consider
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Larry Naessens]

On the Whole House Transmitter, you change the frequency by sliding small 
pins located at the top of the unit. Moving the pins in different 
combinations will cause the unit to transmit on different frequencies. I 
think the combinations are outlined in the documentation that ships with the 
transmitter, but you can also simply experiment with various combinations.


Larry

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Hi,
How do you change the frequency on the unit?
The one I have one has to remove the cover.
Also what is the band range sorry if I mist this information.
I've bought and used this companies fm transmitters web site and have been
very pleased.
www.veronica.co.uk

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Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying 
to

overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal
being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it
impacts the transmitter in any way.

The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in an
urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to 
my

lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.

A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I 
have

found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for
returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in
advance and see what they have to say.Larry



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Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
transmitter?

Don Roberts

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Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
cover the range
that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
with everything
you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
day.
www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
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I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one
to buy. I have
onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm
only going to
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Larry Naessens]

106.7 refers to one of the frequencies that can be chosen to transmit your 
audio. The transmitter transmits on a limited frequency range. If I'm not 
mistaken, the Whole House transmitter transmits between 106.7 and 107.7. If 
no frequencies in that range are available in your area, you might want to 
look for one with a greater range. Some allow you to transmit anywhere on 
the FM band.


Larry
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Education time. the 106.7 you mentioned how does that relate to the radio 
dial?
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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying 
to

overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal
being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it
impacts the transmitter in any way.

The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in an
urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to 
my

lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.

A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I 
have

found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for
returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in
advance and see what they have to say.Larry



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We

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media, please contact us for important shipping instructions.

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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited



Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
transmitter?

Don Roberts

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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
cover the range
that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
with everything
you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
day.
www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
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Phone: 905 918 0658

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brand new CDs
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www.vinylguycafe.com. We
welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
sending us your
media, please contact us for important shipping
instructions.

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Re: fm transmitters revisited

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What I'm not understanding is how that relates to the transmitter. Is the 
frequency of the transmitter related to where you would look on the dial to 
find your signal?
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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


Doc

106.7 is at the far right of the fm band.
The highest fm band frequency is 107.9 here in North America.







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What my ultimate plan is is to be able to put a book or music on and be able to 
tune it in on my stereo in the bedroom or the portable player I have in the 
kitchen. This way I don't disturb my neighbors nor have to spend big money for 
wireless speakers.
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There is another important point here which the Wholehouse site mentions 
and I have found from personal experience.
Which radio or radios you plan to use with such a transmitter is critical 
in how satisfied you may end up being.
From a transmission standpoint, think of these units not in terms of your 
local powerhouse fm stations but the small student run stations at a 
school or a fm translator.
Their signals are weak in comparison to what is else on the fm band.
The Wholehouse fm site also lists such radios that will work well.
Personally, I have always liked the small walkman style radios from 
Sangean currently the dt-400W released during the summer which is a 
revamped version of the popular dt-200 series and also replaces the 
dt-300.
What is nice about these Sangeans is that they not only have decent 
sensitivity and selectivity for such a portable; but they can decently 
handle image rejection which can be an issue when using such a 
transmitter.
When you are reasonably close to an fm transmitter, and that's almost 
everywhere, sometimes it's signal is heard on frequencies not intended to 
be heard upon.
A radio with good image rejection properties can often null these out 
allowing your small transmitter to be best heard by you.
So check the radios you plan to use on the frequencies you plan to use to 
make certain that they will work as you expect.
And, with any fm transmitter and radio combination, it may take some 
playing around to get things to work optimally.
I speak with personal experience on this.







Mike

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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Bruce Toews]

If you want to receive your signal on 106.7, then the transmitter must
also transmit on 106.7. The idea is to get your transmitter to transmit
on a frequency where there isn't already a station. In Winnipeg, with
25+ FM signals, this is tricky.

Bruce


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 What I'm not understanding is how that relates to the transmitter. Is the
 frequency of the transmitter related to where you would look on the dial
 to find your signal?
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 Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited
 
 
 Doc
 
 106.7 is at the far right of the fm band.
 The highest fm band frequency is 107.9 here in North America.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Robert doc Wright]

I'm use to those that transmit down around the mid to upper 80's. there are too 
many strong stations here above 100.
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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


106.7 refers to one of the frequencies that can be chosen to transmit your 
audio. The transmitter transmits on a limited frequency range. If I'm not 
mistaken, the Whole House transmitter transmits between 106.7 and 107.7. If 
no frequencies in that range are available in your area, you might want to 
look for one with a greater range. Some allow you to transmit anywhere on 
the FM band.

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 Education time. the 106.7 you mentioned how does that relate to the radio 
 dial?
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:55 PM
 Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying 
 to
 overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal
 being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it
 impacts the transmitter in any way.

 The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in an
 urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to 
 my
 lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.

 A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I 
 have
 found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for
 returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in
 advance and see what they have to say.Larry



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 Phone: 905 918 0658

 Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
 At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs
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 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:50 PM
 Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
 heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
 because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
 107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
 transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
 frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
 transmitter?

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry Naessens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:30 AM
 Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
 cover the range
 that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
 with everything
 you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
 day.
 www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

 Larry
 Larry Naessens
 Vinyl Trans4mations
 A Division of Jalana Enterprises
 Bradford, Ontario
 Phone: 905 918 0658

 Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
 At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into
 brand new CDs
 that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
 www.vinylguycafe.com. We
 welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
 sending us your
 media, please contact us for important shipping
 instructions.

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 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:57 AM
 Subject: fm transmitters revisited


 I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one
 to buy. I have
 onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm
 only going to
 need a range of 300ft or so.

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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Mike Pietruk]

It's not a feet transmitting limit; rather, it's a strength calculation.
And effectively, from what I recall, at 150 ft or so, if you were even 
able to pick up a signal, it would be a quite weak one.
Most folks living in urban or suburban areas don't need that bit of 
distance anyway as that would be far beyond their home and yard areas 
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Mike Pietruk]

Doc

Think of it in the same way as you would for a regular fm broadcaster.
If I told you that  transmits on 106.7, you would tune your radio to 
fm 106.7.
Same with the transmitter.
You want to hear its signal, if you have it set to send it on 106.7, you 
best have your radio on fm 106.7.
Otherwise, you won't be listening to it.








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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Mike Pietruk]

It's tricky in a lot of places; and this isn't necessarily limited to 
urban areas.
We are in a very rural area; but the problem here is that I am within a 
mile of a transmitter site that houses 2 fm (including a 50kw) station 
plus a fm translator and a 1kw AMer.The problem comes to play as images of 
the main signals end up on otherwise vacant frequencies.
Eventually, I figured it out but it takes some patience and trial and 
error. 
For someone that may not have that patience and ability to work this kind 
of thing out, they will be disappointed.
Folks, keep in mind that different radios have different receiving 
properties.  
Some handle images better than others.
Some have greater selectivity or sensitivity than others.
Learn your radios, as well as your transmitters as well as your ff dial.  
After a while, you will figure out things.  I've done it, in the last 
year, in 3 different vacation homes though, in 2 instances, I was 
initially frustrated.







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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Bob Seed]

Go to http://www.fmamplifiers.com and check them out.
Jonathan Mosen got one of their units, and has nothing but praise for the 
company. They will build a unit according to your specifications, and will 
also make it blind friendly if that is what you want. A little on the high 
side as pfar as price is concerned, but well worth it.  . .
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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


On the Whole House Transmitter, you change the frequency by sliding small 
pins located at the top of the unit. Moving the pins in different 
combinations will cause the unit to transmit on different frequencies. I 
think the combinations are outlined in the documentation that ships with 
the transmitter, but you can also simply experiment with various 
combinations.


Larry

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Hi,
How do you change the frequency on the unit?
The one I have one has to remove the cover.
Also what is the band range sorry if I mist this information.
I've bought and used this companies fm transmitters web site and have 
been

very pleased.
www.veronica.co.uk

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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited

Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying 
to

overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal
being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it
impacts the transmitter in any way.

The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in 
an
urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to 
my

lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.

A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I 
have

found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for
returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in
advance and see what they have to say.Larry



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A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest At Vinyl Trans4mations, we 
turn

old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you can listen to for a
lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome all of your 
enquiries

by phone or email. Before sending us your media, please contact us for
important shipping instructions.

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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited



Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
transmitter?

Don Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: Larry Naessens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
cover the range
that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
with everything
you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
day.
www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
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A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

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At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into
brand new CDs
that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
www.vinylguycafe.com. We
welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
sending us your
media, please contact us for important shipping
instructions.

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To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: fm transmitters revisited



I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one
to buy. I have
onethat was given to me but its range is very short

Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Dave McLean]

It's on the Ramsey Electronics web site.
www.ramseyelectronics.com

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300 ft is far beyond the range of the CCRANE unit.
And legally speaking here in the US, it is beyond the permitted limits
given power parameters.
I don't recall where I saw it -- it was a site selling transmitters -- but
it had a nice chart which nicely elaborated reception expectations at
various distance levels.
At 300 ft, a faint signal might be the best to expect.







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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Dave McLean]

I have one and it's actually a nice unit.  I wishit was stereo but that 
isn't a major drawback.
The thing I like about it is that it's relatively easy to set, you can 
adjust the power, and it has pretty good sound as well.
It also comes with a base that the unit sits in which keeps it from sliding 
off a desk.
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Dave

The V6000 looks very interesting!  Not only is it reasonably priced at
$100, but it offers double flexibility in not only allowing one to select
frequencies but also in power output as well as powering the unit.
I may be an oddball in this: but I don't believe more power is better.  I
only want my signal to go as far as is needed, and not more.
I neither wish to interfere with anyone else's listening, nor do I wish to
have my signal picked up by anyone but myself.

Thanks for the lead on this one as I will have to give it consideration.
I also don't need stereo so this limitation is immaterial in my book.









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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008, Dave McLean wrote:


If it doesn't have to be stereo try the v6000 transmitter at:
www.mobileblackbox.com

The Wholehouse fm transmitter is ok also for the price.

Just about all the units available for less than $100 are toys and 
complete

garbage imho.
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 I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one to buy. I 
 have
 onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm only going to 
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 a range of 300ft or so.

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I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one to buy. I have 
onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm only going to need a 
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[dennis]

the one from ccrane will do what you want.
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onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm only going to 
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Larry Naessens]

Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will cover the range 
that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes with everything 
you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every day.

www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
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I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one to buy. I have 
onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm only going to 
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[dennis]

i just took a look at this one. i like it. i just baught one.
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Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will cover the 
range that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes with 
everything you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every day.

www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
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Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have 
heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it 
because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to 
107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this 
transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose 
frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house 
transmitter?

Don Roberts

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Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will 
cover the range
that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes 
with everything
you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every 
day.
www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
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A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

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brand new CDs
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sending us your
media, please contact us for important shipping 
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[Dave McLean]

If it doesn't have to be stereo try the v6000 transmitter at:
www.mobileblackbox.com

The Wholehouse fm transmitter is ok also for the price.

Just about all the units available for less than $100 are toys and complete 
garbage imho.
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I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one to buy. I have 
onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm only going to 
need a range of 300ft or so.


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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Larry Naessens]

Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying to 
overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal 
being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it 
impacts the transmitter in any way.


The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in an 
urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to my 
lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.


A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I have 
found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for 
returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in 
advance and see what they have to say.Larry




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Vinyl Trans4mations
A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs 
that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We 
welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before sending us your 
media, please contact us for important shipping instructions.


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From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited



Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
transmitter?

Don Roberts

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From: Larry Naessens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
cover the range
that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
with everything
you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
day.
www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

Larry
Larry Naessens
Vinyl Trans4mations
A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into
brand new CDs
that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
www.vinylguycafe.com. We
welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
sending us your
media, please contact us for important shipping
instructions.

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From: Robert doc Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: fm transmitters revisited



I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one
to buy. I have
onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm
only going to
need a range of 300ft or so.

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Re: fm transmitters revisited

[Robert doc Wright]

Education time. the 106.7 you mentioned how does that relate to the radio dial?
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To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying to 
overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal 
being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it 
impacts the transmitter in any way.

The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in an 
urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to my 
lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.

A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I have 
found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for 
returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in 
advance and see what they have to say.Larry



Larry Naessens
Vinyl Trans4mations
A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs 
that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We 
welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before sending us your 
media, please contact us for important shipping instructions.

- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
 heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
 because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
 107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
 transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
 frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
 transmitter?

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry Naessens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:30 AM
 Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
 cover the range
 that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
 with everything
 you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
 day.
 www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

 Larry
 Larry Naessens
 Vinyl Trans4mations
 A Division of Jalana Enterprises
 Bradford, Ontario
 Phone: 905 918 0658

 Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
 At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into
 brand new CDs
 that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
 www.vinylguycafe.com. We
 welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
 sending us your
 media, please contact us for important shipping
 instructions.

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 From: Robert doc Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:57 AM
 Subject: fm transmitters revisited


 I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one
 to buy. I have
 onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm
 only going to
 need a range of 300ft or so.

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RE: fm transmitters revisited

[Ace]

Hi,
How do you change the frequency on the unit?
The one I have one has to remove the cover.
Also what is the band range sorry if I mist this information.
I've bought and used this companies fm transmitters web site and have been
very pleased.
www.veronica.co.uk 

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Sent: October-20-08 3:55 PM
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Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited

Don, that would depend on the strength of the signal that you are trying to
overide. My transmitter is set at 106.7, with the nearest strong signal
being at 107.1. There is a weak signal at 106.5, but I don't think it
impacts the transmitter in any way.

The transmitter does cover my entire house and yard, but if you live in an
urban area, you might find some coverage reduction. Unfortunately, due to my
lack of experience outside my own area, I can't speak with authority.

A suggestion though... I would email the company with your question. I have
found them to be quite responsive. Also, they may have a provision for
returns if you can't find a workable frequency. Again, I would ask in
advance and see what they have to say.Larry



Larry Naessens
Vinyl Trans4mations
A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn
old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you can listen to for a
lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome all of your enquiries
by phone or email. Before sending us your media, please contact us for
important shipping instructions.

- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Larry, Regarding the whole house FM transmitter, I have
 heard that it is great; however, I am reluctant to buy it
 because it's frequency coverage is limited from 106.7 to
 107.9 megs.  My question is this; how far can you hear this
 transmitter if there is a near by broadcaster whose
 frequency is .2 megs away from that of the whole house
 transmitter?

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry Naessens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:30 AM
 Subject: Re: fm transmitters revisited


 Doc, take a look at the Whole House FM transmitter. It will
 cover the range
 that you need, can be run using AC power or USB and comes
 with everything
 you need to connect to a stereo or a PC. I use mine every
 day.
 www.wholehousefmtransmitter.com

 Larry
 Larry Naessens
 Vinyl Trans4mations
 A Division of Jalana Enterprises
 Bradford, Ontario
 Phone: 905 918 0658

 Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
 At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into
 brand new CDs
 that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
 www.vinylguycafe.com. We
 welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
 sending us your
 media, please contact us for important shipping
 instructions.

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 From: Robert doc Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:57 AM
 Subject: fm transmitters revisited


 I'm looking for suggestions on what would be the best one
 to buy. I have
 onethat was given to me but its range is very short. I'm
 only going to
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Frankie V.]

Thanks, I'll give them a call.

Regards,
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Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

Try going to: www.fmamplifiers.com

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 Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site
 perhaps?

 Regards,
 Frankie V.

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 On Behalf Of Bob Seed
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters

 Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan
 eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
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 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
 I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
 antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the
 filter
 seemed to clear up.
 The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass 
 response
 is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
 I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
 In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it
 very
 accessible and quite easy to use.
 The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
 To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from
 the
 others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
 button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need 
 to
 press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
 The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the 
 down
 button as you'd expect.
 The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
 The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
 any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With 
 a
 whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away
 (about
 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.

 That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
 of
 the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are 
 there
 any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
 unit
 more accessible?

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 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
buttons
 for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of 
 course
 shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
 Jonathan
 was in New Zealand.

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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes 
 complete
 with
 a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power 
 supply
 that
 works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.

 All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on
 the
 back of the unit, and you are on the air!

 Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
 than
 one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
 get.
 I
 would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details 
 on
 pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
 your
 requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified
 otherwise
 it
 would have to be licenced.

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 How much do one of these go

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Frankie V.]

The sad reality is that the FCC is so hyperfocused on regulating content as
opposed to license issues that they blow smoke and not much more. But, if
you use a phrase they deem innapropriate you can expect the b;ack
helicopters to be circling very soon.

Regards,
Frankie V.

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Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do 
anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they 
claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that I

may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very 
strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which
 most hobby units are not.
 That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to 
 bother
 you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely
 you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
 The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM
 to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so

 Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
 around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else 
 can
 hear it!).
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
 suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
 transmitter.
 You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most
 of
 us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in 
 order
 to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
 generated
 from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
 transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
 formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
 meets
 their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
 transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
 standards that have been set by the FCC.
 Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
 transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
 dollar range.

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go 
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Tom]

Political commentary is not permitted on the PC Audio list.

Tom

** Original Message From: Frankie V. **
The sad reality is that the FCC is so hyperfocused on 
regulating content as opposed to license issues that they 
blow smoke and not much more. But, if you use a phrase they 
deem innapropriate you can expect the b;ack helicopters to be 
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[John Land]

Johnathan,
it's refreshing to know that transmission rules are so relaxed in Nz, but 
what is the point of broadcasting to a load of sheep!!!???

Regards,

John
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 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. 
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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[Bob Seed]

because they follow the flock!
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 Johnathan,
 it's refreshing to know that transmission rules are so relaxed in Nz, but
 what is the point of broadcasting to a load of sheep!!!???

 Regards,

 John
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 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there 
 on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[albert griffith]

Well, if the beer's good, I'm off the New Zealand, smile. 

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On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:57 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

Jonathan

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Sent: Friday, 14 September 2007 1:20 a.m.
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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

Jonathan



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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave Marthouse]

Jonathan,

When you talk about power output.  In the New Zealand regulations do they
refer to rf output power or affective radiated power.  Output being power
out of the transmitter itself and affective radiated power being output
taking into account antenna, height, feed line loss, and height above
average terrain.  Are there any regulations regarding antenna height or
antenna gain?

Dave Marthouse
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 Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
 etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

 Jonathan

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 approximately, how far does one watt take your signal?

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 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters

 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

 Jonathan



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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Dave, it's been a while since I was involved in this but I believe it is
ERP. The only restriction I can recall is that they have limits on the
number of transmitters you can have for the one station, to prevent people
from using these frequencies to do networking on the cheap.

Jonathan

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Jonathan,

When you talk about power output.  In the New Zealand regulations do they
refer to rf output power or affective radiated power.  Output being power
out of the transmitter itself and affective radiated power being output
taking into account antenna, height, feed line loss, and height above
average terrain.  Are there any regulations regarding antenna height or
antenna gain?

Dave Marthouse
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:57 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
 etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

 Jonathan

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 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters

 approximately, how far does one watt take your signal?

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 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM
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 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters

 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Jonathan Mosen]

The beer is utterly brilliant. And if you Google, maybe you will find wave
files of someone opening a few choice cans and bottles. Just put that in
there to stay on topic.


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Well, if the beer's good, I'm off the New Zealand, smile. 

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

Jonathan

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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Chuck Adkins]

Well, you guys probably don't have an NPR who wants all the freqs for all 
their translators and therefore is very much against LP FM.


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. 
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

 Jonathan



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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Jason Boston]

Hi all, I'm hoping for a good one that's around the $75 to $100 range.

Thanks,
Jason


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Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big
fat 
Smile)

Matthew
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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum
power 
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply
for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there
are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out
there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

 Jonathan



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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Mike Pietruk]

ReRemember something else about New Zealand:  because of its geographic 
location and relative isolation from other land areas:
the radio spectrum is going to be far less cluttered than in North America 
or Western Europe.
Hence, the government can be far more lenient and liberal in allowing use 
of the spectrum.
Just imagine, for instance, what would occur in the Midwest or Northeast 
USA if suddenly FCC regs changed and allowed more or less unregulated 
low-power fm use.
It might work well in Wyoming or Montana or Manitoba; but it would hardly 
play well in Chicago, Boston or Toronto.
The fm band would become like the old cb band with constant interference, 
hash, and noise; and that would serve no one's interest.
For those who wish playing with their own radio stations, the net would 
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

Sign me up as well to go to New Zealand the land of free play radio!!! Well 
that little transmitter that I recommended will indeed do the job, as you 
can push the envelope a little with a good well tuned external antenna and 
still stay within limits, and the radio police won't come after you. As I 
said in a previous post this is the closest thing to a commercial broadcast 
transmitter. As this guy builds most of his stuff from scratch he can do 
just about anything to make it accessible, and from what I have been able to 
gather from previous posts to this list he has done just that.   .

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Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Well, you guys probably don't have an NPR who wants all the freqs for all
 their translators and therefore is very much against LP FM.


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 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:01 AM
 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there 
 on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

 Jonathan



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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Jonathan Mosen]

We do have a kind of NPR equivalent, but it is fully Government funded and I
think is a bit more like the BBC, CBC, or Australia's ABC. 

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Well, you guys probably don't have an NPR who wants all the freqs for all
their translators and therefore is very much against LP FM.


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. 
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

 Jonathan



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Re[2]: Accessible FM transmitters

[djc]

Jonathan that's wonderful but here the FCC is money hungry. I've always
wished that there were low powered stations here but where are you going to
put them in the major cities like Sacramento, ca where I live. Years ago
when I lived in The Boston Area of New England we heard several low powered
stations on AM at like 610 or 620 which now the foolish FCC has sold to
commercial stations. These stations would broadcast just for a couple of
hours around midnight and they were basically in New York and I could hear
them fairly well. Sure I heard Language that is not necessarily clean but
it still was fun to listen. Back in the 80s I was living in San Francisco
and there was a feller named Steve Dunifer and he was running a low powered
station out of Berkeley which is the East Bay in that area. I know he
fought with the FCC on more than one ocassion. He may still be on the air.
I don't know if he's broadcasting on the net but he called his station
Radio Free Berkeley.
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On 9/13/2007 at 4:01 PM Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

Jonathan



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RE: Re[2]: Accessible FM transmitters

[albert griffith]

There's a pirate radio movement and they're advocating for these low power
stations. 

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re[2]: Accessible FM transmitters

Jonathan that's wonderful but here the FCC is money hungry. I've always
wished that there were low powered stations here but where are you going to
put them in the major cities like Sacramento, ca where I live. Years ago
when I lived in The Boston Area of New England we heard several low powered
stations on AM at like 610 or 620 which now the foolish FCC has sold to
commercial stations. These stations would broadcast just for a couple of
hours around midnight and they were basically in New York and I could hear
them fairly well. Sure I heard Language that is not necessarily clean but it
still was fun to listen. Back in the 80s I was living in San Francisco and
there was a feller named Steve Dunifer and he was running a low powered
station out of Berkeley which is the East Bay in that area. I know he fought
with the FCC on more than one ocassion. He may still be on the air.
I don't know if he's broadcasting on the net but he called his station Radio
Free Berkeley.
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On 9/13/2007 at 4:01 PM Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile.
Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum 
power
of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply 
for any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management 
group
reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there 
are fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station 
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there 
on those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

Jonathan



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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Frankie V.]

Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site
perhaps?

Regards,
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Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan 
eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
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I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
 I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
 antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the 
 filter
 seemed to clear up.
 The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response
 is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
 I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
 In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it 
 very
 accessible and quite easy to use.
 The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
 To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from 
 the
 others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
 button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to
 press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
 The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down
 button as you'd expect.
 The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
 The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
 any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a
 whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away 
 (about
 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.

 That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
 of
 the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
 any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
 unit
 more accessible?

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
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I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
buttons
 for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
 shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
 Jonathan
 was in New Zealand.

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
 with
 a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
 that
 works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.

 All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on 
 the
 back of the unit, and you are on the air!

 Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
 than
 one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
 get.
 I
 would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
 pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
 your
 requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified
 otherwise
 it
 would have to be licenced.

 - Original Message - 

 From: Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
 How many watts do they put out

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
 transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
 http://www.wavemach.com.

 I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
 construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, 
 in
 short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
 allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Frankie V.]

OK, I got the model number now. What modifications were they able to make
for you on that transmitter?

Regards,
Frankie V.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in 
your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is 
high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you 
requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to 
obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I 
bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing 
the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the 
barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so 
they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios 
in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, 
altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any 
info is surely appreciated.

Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


- Original Message -
From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


  Hi all,
  I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well with
  PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
  feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
  broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
 
  I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
  like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
 
  I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
  to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I don't
  know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
  at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
 
  Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
  Jason
 
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

Try going to: www.fmamplifiers.com

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From: Frankie V. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site
 perhaps?

 Regards,
 Frankie V.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Bob Seed
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters

 Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan
 eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
 I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
 antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the
 filter
 seemed to clear up.
 The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass 
 response
 is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
 I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
 In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it
 very
 accessible and quite easy to use.
 The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
 To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from
 the
 others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
 button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need 
 to
 press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
 The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the 
 down
 button as you'd expect.
 The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
 The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
 any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With 
 a
 whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away
 (about
 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.

 That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
 of
 the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are 
 there
 any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
 unit
 more accessible?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
buttons
 for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of 
 course
 shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
 Jonathan
 was in New Zealand.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes 
 complete
 with
 a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power 
 supply
 that
 works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.

 All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on
 the
 back of the unit, and you are on the air!

 Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
 than
 one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
 get.
 I
 would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details 
 on
 pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
 your
 requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified
 otherwise
 it
 would have to be licenced.

 - Original Message - 

 From: Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
 Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
 How many watts do they put out

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
 transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
 http://www.wavemach.com

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules 
governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 
watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the frequency 
that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. 
The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than 
adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not 
responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast 
beyond the recommended coverage area. .
\
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run 
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
 bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
 the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
 barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
 they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
 in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
 altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
 info is surely appreciated.

 Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth 
a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


- Original Message -
From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


  Hi all,
  I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
  with
  PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 
  150+
  feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
  broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
 
  I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply 
  options
  like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
 
  I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
  to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
  don't
  know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
  at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
 
  Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
  Jason
 
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Bob,
You can run a radio station from your home.
And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm looking 
in to.
And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier, 
there is no modification needed.
You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
It's strictly plug and play!
But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
  John Price.

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, 
 and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted 
 to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
 bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
 the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
 barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
 they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
 in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
 altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
 info is surely appreciated.

 Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna 
socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


- Original Message -
From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


  Hi all,
  I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
  with
  PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast
  150+
  feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
  broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
 
  I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply
  options
  like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
 
  I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it 
  seems
  to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
  don't
  know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can 
  buy
  at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
 
  Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
  Jason

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with 
regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and regs. 
These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics Bulletin 
Board from which I copied this info.

Hello All,

After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go for 
it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught, or
many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, 
explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is not 
to
tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so 
those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can 
decide
on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I 
will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other 
things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 meters. 
This
is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This 
limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses 
only
on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field 
strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One 
nanowatt
is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically mentioned 
about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful 
information
about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into believing 
that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output 
delivered
to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 
times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field 
strengths
in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt 
transmitter output power.

If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look 
for NOUO and NAL):

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed 
operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK but 
consider
the information on the following links, especially with regard to the 
calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good 
source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air. 
This
is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the 
rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC 
certified
nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the 
responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to be 
gained
that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a kit 
from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit to 
less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an information
sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a legal 
station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the regulations,
but this is probably close enough.

You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater 
range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier 
attitude
on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who 
intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a 
change
in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the 
market

It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have read 
this, that you will do so knowing what is involved.

Neil


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Dave,
I will take this to heart.
After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license to 
use it.
Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and 
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics 
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught, 
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is 
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically 
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into 
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK 
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to 
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a 
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit 
 to
 less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an 
 information
 sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a 
 legal
 station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the 
 regulations,
 but this is probably close enough.

 You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater
 range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier
 attitude
 on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who
 intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a
 change
 in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the
 market

 It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have 
 read
 this, that you will do so knowing what is involved.

 Neil


 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 
 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious 
organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats 
legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I 
understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is 
impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license 
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, 
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the 
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with 
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit
 to
 less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an
 information
 sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a
 legal
 station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the
 regulations,
 but this is probably close enough.

 You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much 
 greater
 range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier
 attitude
 on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who
 intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a
 change
 in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the
 market

 It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have
 read

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Dave,
I will take this to heart too!
Thinks a hole bunch!
  John Price.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a 
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go 
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a 
 good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit
 to
 less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an
 information
 sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a
 legal
 station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the
 regulations,
 but this is probably close enough.

 You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much
 greater
 range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier
 attitude
 on the part of those who

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Mac Norins]

Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the 
U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious
organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit
 to
 less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an
 information
 sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a
 legal
 station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the
 regulations,
 but this is probably close enough.

 You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much
 greater
 range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or 
millions like a commercial license.
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a 
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go 
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a 
 good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit
 to
 less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an
 information

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

The following website should give  you all of the information that you will 
need in obtaining a broadcast licence in the United States.
 http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/lowpwr.html

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, 
 and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted 
 to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
 bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
 the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
 barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
 they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
 in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
 altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
 info is surely appreciated.

 Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna 
socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


- Original Message -
From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


  Hi all,
  I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
  with
  PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast
  150+
  feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
  broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
 
  I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply
  options
  like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
 
  I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it 
  seems
  to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
  don't
  know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can 
  buy
  at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
 
  Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
  Jason
 
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Mac Norins]

Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the lottery! 
There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
millions like a commercial license.
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a
 good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

The transmitter that has been recommended on this list falls into the 
category of micro broadcasting. You can leagually push the emvelope of this 
little powerhouse without having the FCC cops come knocking on your door.
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a 
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go 
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a 
 good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the 
 lottery!
 There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
 millions like a commercial license.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the 
 license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least 
 with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other 
 inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among 
 other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. 
 This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC 
 actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a
 good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Mac Norins]

Yeah, when I looked into it, I was told that there is the need to hire 
lawyers, familiar with the ins and outs, which gets beyond what that web 
site that Bob is talking about, contains, I think!   One has to come up with 
a non profit entity, or not, depending on what one wants to do with it and 
how much time and capital one has to put into it; not for me, either!
- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the
 lottery!
 There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
 millions like a commercial license.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the
 license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
 with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other
 inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among
 other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas.
 This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Mac Norins]

Sort of like flying an ultralight plane, eh?

OK, I'm done with my part of this thread!
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


The transmitter that has been recommended on this list falls into the
category of micro broadcasting. You can leagually push the emvelope of this
little powerhouse without having the FCC cops come knocking on your door.
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a
 good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not 
suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this transmitter. 
You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most of 
us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order 
to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is generated 
from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a 
transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a 
formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter meets 
their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant 
transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent 
standards that have been set by the FCC.
Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal 
transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand 
dollar range.

 - Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and 
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics 
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught, 
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is 
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically 
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into 
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK 
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to 
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a 
 kit
 from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

 I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit 
 to
 less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an 
 information
 sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a 
 legal
 station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the 
 regulations,
 but this is probably close enough.

 You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater
 range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier
 attitude
 on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who
 intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a
 change
 in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which 
most hobby units are not.
That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to bother 
you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely 
you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM 
to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so

Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits 
around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else can 
hear it!).
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
 suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this 
 transmitter.
 You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most 
 of
 us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order
 to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is 
 generated
 from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
 transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
 formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter 
 meets
 their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
 transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
 standards that have been set by the FCC.
 Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
 transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
 dollar range.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, 
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

 http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

 http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

 You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
 source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the 
 air.
 This
 is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with 
 the
 rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
 certified
 nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
 responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
 be
 gained
 that you will not have a problem

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing 
the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations in 
the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several 
classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of documentation 
in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified 
broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered as 
being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is 
unprotected.
-- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Bob,
 You can run a radio station from your home.
 And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm 
 looking
 in to.
 And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier,
 there is no modification needed.
 You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
 It's strictly plug and play!
 But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
  John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 
 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another 
 broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use,
 and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted
 to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 
 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
 bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
 the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
 barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
 they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
 in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
 altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
 info is surely appreciated.

 Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely 
worth
a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


- Original Message -
From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


  Hi all

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

The lottery is for available FM frequencies in the United States, and those 
frequencies are very hard to find these days especially in urban areas. 
Digital radio will solve that problem in a few years.

- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the
 lottery!
 There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
 millions like a commercial license.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in 
 the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the
 license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
 with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent 
 is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other
 inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among
 other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas.
 This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 
 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention 
 field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

Seems to me I recall in Canada you can get a limited license for 1 watt 
under certain circumstances.  That isn't true in the US though.
Perhaps you can comment on that Bob?
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing
 the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations 
 in
 the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several
 classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of 
 documentation
 in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified
 broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered as
 being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is
 unprotected.
 -- Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Bob,
 You can run a radio station from your home.
 And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm
 looking
 in to.
 And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier,
 there is no modification needed.
 You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
 It's strictly plug and play!
 But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
  John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over
 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another
 broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use,
 and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted
 to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and 
 run
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000
 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
 bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
 the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
 barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
 they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
 in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
 altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
 info is surely appreciated.

 Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, 
in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also 
added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do 
anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they 
claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that I 
may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very 
strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .

- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which
 most hobby units are not.
 That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to 
 bother
 you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely
 you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
 The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM
 to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so

 Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
 around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else 
 can
 hear it!).
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
 suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
 transmitter.
 You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most
 of
 us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in 
 order
 to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
 generated
 from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
 transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
 formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
 meets
 their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
 transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
 standards that have been set by the FCC.
 Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
 transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
 dollar range.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go 
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
 delivered
 to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
 times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
 strengths
 in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
 transmitter output power.

 If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
 (look
 for NOUO and NAL):

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

 http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

 You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
 operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
 but
 consider
 the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
 calculated milliwatt transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Dave McLean]

I'm not sure about that particular situation but I know they fined Ramsey 
Electronics several thousand dollars a couple of years ago for selling 
transmitters that weren't part 15 compliant.
You can no longer buy one of their for export transmitters and sign a form 
saying you will export it to a country where it is legal.
The units in question were one wat, significantly over the part 15 limit but 
I'll bet there are hundreds of us around the country who own one!
I wonder if you can still buy one of the transmitters you shave anywhere 
(except on Ebay maybe)?
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do
 anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they
 claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that 
 I
 may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very
 strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which
 most hobby units are not.
 That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to
 bother
 you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely
 you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
 The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the 
 FM
 to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so

 Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
 around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else
 can
 hear it!).
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
 suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
 transmitter.
 You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most
 of
 us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in
 order
 to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
 generated
 from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
 transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
 formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
 meets
 their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
 transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
 standards that have been set by the FCC.
 Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
 transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
 dollar range.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least 
 with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other 
 inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among 
 other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. 
 This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

That is indeed true. It is my understanding that this falls under the 
category of a developmental or an occasional licence. The occasional licence 
allows one to broadcast small community events such as a charity walk or 
fishing festival. With this licence you can't sell advertising, but you can 
give credit to those sponsors that supported your event by donating food 
etc. The occasional licence has to be renewed every three months or so. 
Developmental licences are usually given out to community radio societies, 
schools, and not for profit organizations. I am not aware of broadcast 
licences being given out to individuals per say, but I do recall a special 
exemption being granted to an individual who wanted to operate a 1 watt 
developmental radio station on a first nations reserve For a Canadian 
prospective go to www.crtc.ca
   .  . .   . .  .
- Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Seems to me I recall in Canada you can get a limited license for 1 watt
 under certain circumstances.  That isn't true in the US though.
 Perhaps you can comment on that Bob?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing
 the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations
 in
 the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several
 classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of
 documentation
 in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified
 broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered 
 as
 being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is
 unprotected.
 -- Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Bob,
 You can run a radio station from your home.
 And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm
 looking
 in to.
 And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier,
 there is no modification needed.
 You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
 It's strictly plug and play!
 But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
  John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict 
 rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything 
 over
 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another
 broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use,
 and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted
 to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and
 run
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000
 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

I remember reading that story. The loophole for Ramsey is that they will 
take no responsibility for any modification that is done to their 
transmitters after sale. It is my understanding that they will sell their 
products outside of the United States.

 - Original Message - 
From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 I'm not sure about that particular situation but I know they fined Ramsey
 Electronics several thousand dollars a couple of years ago for selling
 transmitters that weren't part 15 compliant.
 You can no longer buy one of their for export transmitters and sign a form
 saying you will export it to a country where it is legal.
 The units in question were one wat, significantly over the part 15 limit 
 but
 I'll bet there are hundreds of us around the country who own one!
 I wonder if you can still buy one of the transmitters you shave anywhere
 (except on Ebay maybe)?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do
 anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they
 claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think 
 that
 I
 may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very
 strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant 
 which
 most hobby units are not.
 That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to
 bother
 you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less 
 likely
 you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
 The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the
 FM
 to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so

 Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
 around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else
 can
 hear it!).
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
 suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
 transmitter.
 You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. 
 Most
 of
 us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in
 order
 to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
 generated
 from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
 transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for 
 a
 formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
 meets
 their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
 transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
 standards that have been set by the FCC.
 Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
 transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
 dollar range.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
 with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent 
 is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other
 inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among
 other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas.
 This
 limit actually includes the effects of all

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

A 50 watt lo-power station can be put on the air for about 10 grand. This 
would of course include the cost of the transmitter, antenna, computer, and 
associated hardware and software.

 - Original Message - 
From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Yeah, when I looked into it, I was told that there is the need to hire
 lawyers, familiar with the ins and outs, which gets beyond what that web
 site that Bob is talking about, contains, I think!   One has to come up 
 with
 a non profit entity, or not, depending on what one wants to do with it and
 how much time and capital one has to put into it; not for me, either!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the
 lottery!
 There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
 millions like a commercial license.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Norins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in 
 the
 U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
 religious
 organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
 legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
 understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
 impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
 - Original Message - 
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 High Dave,
 I will take this to heart.
 After all, the bible does say, obey the laws of the land.
 So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the
 license
 to
 use it.
 Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
 This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dave McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
 with
 regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
 Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
 regs.
 These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
 Bulletin
 Board from which I copied this info.

 Hello All,

 After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about go
 for
 it, relax and have fun, you won't hurt anybody and won't get
 caught,
 or
 many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
 I,
 explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent 
 is
 not
 to
 tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
 so
 those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
 decide
 on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other
 inaccuracies,
 I
 will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

 The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among
 other
 things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
 meters.
 This
 is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas.
 This
 limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
 focuses
 only
 on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
 strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
 One
 nanowatt
 is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
 mentioned
 about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
 meaningful
 information
 about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
 believing
 that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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[Doc]

John also be aware of the royalty charges you will have to pay per song.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Seed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
 governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
 watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
 frequency
 that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
 The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
 adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
 responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
 beyond the recommended coverage area. .
 \
 From: DJ DOCTOR P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hello Russell,this is John.
 I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
 You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, 
 and
 hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
 This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted 
 to.
 Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
 it
 out of my house.
 But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
 amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
 The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
 The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
 This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
 obtaining.
 Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

 - Original Message - 
 From: russell Bourgoin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
 your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
 high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
 requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
 obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
 bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
 the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
 barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
 they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
 in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
 altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
 info is surely appreciated.

 Rusty
  At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna 
socket
at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


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From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


  Hi all,
  I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
  with
  PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast
  150+
  feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
  broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
 
  I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply
  options
  like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
 
  I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it 
  seems
  to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
  don't
  know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can 
  buy
  at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
 
  Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
  Jason
 
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[Matthew2007]

Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big fat 
Smile)

Matthew
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. 
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[albert griffith]

approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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[Jonathan Mosen]

Um no I don't, I work in New Zealand. Except for US shows such as NFB, ACB,
CSUN etc. 

Jonathan 

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Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big fat
Smile)

Matthew
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. 
 Here
 anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
 of
 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
 any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
 reserve
 the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
 fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
 identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
 hours.
 But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
 those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

Jonathan

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approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. smile. Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

[Bob Seed]

 couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi all,
 I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well with
 PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
 feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
 broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.

 I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
 like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.

 I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
 to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I don't
 know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
 at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.

 Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

[Jed Barton]

How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
How many watts do they put out

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 


 couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just
a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what you pay for though.

Jonathan


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From: Jason Boston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


 Hi all,
 I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well 
 with PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to 
 broadcast 150+ feet in a household environment. This is for use in the

 USA, so the broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.

 I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply 
 options like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.

 I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems

 to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I 
 don't know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you 
 can buy at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.

 Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
 Jason

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